RV-List Digest Archive

Fri 01/17/03


Total Messages Posted: 46



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 04:26 AM - Re: 51% Requirements and Orndorff Videos (Dana Overall)
     2. 05:00 AM - Re: 51% Requirements and Orndorff Videos (WALTER KERR)
     3. 05:44 AM - Re: LED cockpit lights (willfly)
     4. 06:12 AM - BMA Pricing (Don.Alexander@AstenJohnson.com)
     5. 06:50 AM - Re: 51% Requirements and Orndorff Videos (Rick Jory)
     6. 07:03 AM - Re: wingtip differences (Tracy Crook)
     7. 07:10 AM - Re: [Fw: AeroElectric-List: Lancair BMA Flight Testing] (EFIS info) (Tracy Crook)
     8. 08:14 AM - Fuel Lube (sjhdcl@kingston.net)
     9. 08:21 AM - Re RV List: Red LED cockpit lights (Elsa & Henry)
    10. 08:46 AM - Fw: BMA Pricing (C. Rabaut)
    11. 08:54 AM - Re: Fuel Lube (Larry Pardue)
    12. 09:16 AM - Re: Fuel Lube (Thomas McCausland)
    13. 09:22 AM - Re:RV-List; wingtip differences (Robert Adams)
    14. 09:26 AM - Re: Fuel Lube (Dan Checkoway)
    15. 10:00 AM - Static Air Kits (MARTIN EMRATH)
    16. 10:46 AM - Re: Static Air Kits (Todd Wenzel)
    17. 11:00 AM - Re: Fuel Lube (Bobby Hester)
    18. 11:05 AM - Restrictions on the Use of Experimental Aircraft (Willke, Theodore L)
    19. 11:14 AM - Pitot hole in wing (Brad Benson)
    20. 11:15 AM - Re: Clamp for nose strut fairing (czechsix@juno.com)
    21. 11:33 AM - Leaky Fuel Caps (Rob Miller)
    22. 11:46 AM - Re: Leaky Fuel Caps (Lenleg@aol.com)
    23. 11:53 AM - Taylor Pneumatic Tools (Bert Penney)
    24. 11:56 AM - Led lights in the plane (Chris)
    25. 12:06 PM - Re: Taylor Pneumatic Tools (Brad Benson)
    26. 12:23 PM - Re: Pitot hole in wing (Konrad Werner)
    27. 12:53 PM - Re: Pitot hole in win (Oldsfolks@aol.com)
    28. 01:16 PM - BMA pricing (DALE HARVEY)
    29. 01:19 PM - Re: AFP install kit...no AN826-6D? (Dan Checkoway)
    30. 01:25 PM - Re: Leaky Fuel Caps (Stein Bruch)
    31. 02:31 PM - Need Sensenich prop spacer for 0-360 (HCRV6@aol.com)
    32. 03:47 PM - Re: Led lights in the plane (Elsa & Henry)
    33. 04:31 PM - Re: Pitot hole in wing (Tom & Cathy Ervin)
    34. 04:48 PM - Re:upholstery ? (WPAerial@aol.com)
    35. 05:19 PM - CS vs. Fixed pitch O-360? (Jerry2DT@aol.com)
    36. 05:54 PM - Re: Leaky Fuel Caps (Robert Hasson)
    37. 06:42 PM - Re: Need Sensenich prop spacer for 0-360 (Sam Buchanan)
    38. 07:16 PM - Re: Leaky Fuel Caps (Alex Peterson)
    39. 07:54 PM - Re: Clamp for nose strut fairing (Tim Lewis)
    40. 08:22 PM - Re: Need Sensenich prop spacer for 0-360 (kempthornes)
    41. 09:08 PM - Re: Led lights in the plane (Randall Henderson)
    42. 09:13 PM - Re: Led lights in the plane (Jeff Bertsch)
    43. 09:17 PM - Re: Fuel Lube (Randall Henderson)
    44. 09:31 PM - Re: Pitot hole in wing (Meketa)
    45. 09:32 PM - Re: Led lights in the plane (Garth Shearing)
    46. 09:49 PM - 4 into one exhaust (RV6 Flyer)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:26:26 AM PST US
    From: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: 51% Requirements and Orndorff Videos
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com> Scott, The tapes still show marking the center lines of all ribs to drill and the use of jig techniques that are no longer used on the pre punched kits. With that said, just watching does give you an idea how things go together and some little hints. Check some various 7 websites and it will become painfully obvious that achieving superior results on these new kits is doable. You have plenty of extra rivets and extra alum. stock material included in your 7 emp kit. Take these and rivet to your hearts content. You will find out quickly the learning curve is very fast. Drill a couple of your practice rivets out, make some oops rivets by squeezing down a couple longer rivets, to make them shorter and fatter, and practice some more. I don't mean to make your task sound like making a peanut butter and jelly snack but it is very, very doable. I'd recommend you start with the VS first as it is by far the easiest of the emp structures to build and will involve all techniques required for you to complete the emp. As for the DAR, you gotta have something to give to them. I use Kitlog Pro and my website. Dana Overall Richmond, KY http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive >From: "" <tx_jayhawk@excite.com> >Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com >To: rv-list@matronics.com >Subject: RV-List: 51% Requirements and Orndorff Videos >Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 20:54:40 -0500 (EST) > >--> RV-List message posted by: "" <tx_jayhawk@excite.com> > > All, > > > > A couple of questions from a newbie builder: > > > > 1) What are the specific documentation requirements to satisfy the 51% >rule? I would like to do a website. On inspection do people a) refer the >DAR to the website, b) print out copies and give them to inspector, or c) >keep a separate "manual" journal. For those that get by with just the >website...how often do the DARs like to see progress pictures? > > > > 2) I am just starting the building process, and the harsh reality that >my life will be dependant on the integrity of this structure is starting to >sink in. Does anyone have one or two of the used Orndorff videos for sale >or rent? Not having riveted anything before, I think it might make sense to >get some perspective. > > > > THanks, > > Scott > > RV7A Emp > > >Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com >The most personalized portal on the Web! > > The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE*


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    Time: 05:00:14 AM PST US
    From: "WALTER KERR" <kerrjb@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: 51% Requirements and Orndorff Videos
    --> RV-List message posted by: "WALTER KERR" <kerrjb@msn.com> Hi Scot, I do not believe most DAR's care for you pictures. When you apply for your repairman certificate, they will be very interested because that is the primary way they can ascertain that you were the builder. You may find the video useful, but suggest you find a local builder that you can get a little OJT as an economical and good way to get your feet wet. If you can't find anyone, just take a Fla vacation and hangout with me a week :>) Bernie Kerr, 6A flying, 9A rotary power building.(you can see progress on my 9A at www.rotaryaviation.com and click late developments and then bernie's 9A project. ----- Original Message ----- From: <tx_jayhawk@excite.com> Subject: RV-List: 51% Requirements and Orndorff Videos > --> RV-List message posted by: "" <tx_jayhawk@excite.com> > > All, > > > > A couple of questions from a newbie builder: > > > > 1) What are the specific documentation requirements to satisfy the 51% rule? I would like to do a website. On inspection do people a) refer the DAR to the website, b) print out copies and give them to inspector, or c) keep a separate "manual" journal. For those that get by with just the website...how often do the DARs like to see progress pictures? > > > > 2) I am just starting the building process, and the harsh reality that my life will be dependant on the integrity of this structure is starting to sink in. Does anyone have one or two of the used Orndorff videos for sale or rent? Not having riveted anything before, I think it might make sense to get some perspective. > > > > THanks, > > Scott > > RV7A Emp > > > Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com > The most personalized portal on the Web! > >


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    Time: 05:44:35 AM PST US
    From: "willfly" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: LED cockpit lights
    --> RV-List message posted by: "willfly" <willfly@carolina.rr.com> I'm using something called infinity lights. Similar to small Mag lights. 3" long by 5/8. I have two one for each side mounted on RAM-A-101 mounts under the FWD rails. Each operated by one AA battery, no built in panel lights. Just twist the top to turn on and vary intensity. If your interested go to www.glow-bug.com and type infinity in the search engine. Steve Glasgow


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    Time: 06:12:32 AM PST US
    Subject: BMA Pricing
    From: Don.Alexander@AstenJohnson.com
    01/17/2003 09:10:47 AM --> RV-List message posted by: Don.Alexander@AstenJohnson.com Posted by Chuck: --> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com> Charlie, Thanks for the update on the BMA system... there's obviously great hope for this set up. Maybe I'll start saving my money. Chuck You had better jump in soon...the price has jumped considerably since last year for the product and the mandatory service assistance contract. It looks like BMA has decided to charge extra for their system now that it actually may work... Don Alexander RV-8A Wings


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    Time: 06:50:12 AM PST US
    From: "Rick Jory" <rickjory@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: 51% Requirements and Orndorff Videos
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Rick Jory" <rickjory@msn.com> I started a log and gave up. Toward the end you just spend too much time doing too many diverse things to "track" or "record it all", at least that's my opinion. Occasionally I'd take a digital picture and would print two or three pictures per page and put the pages in a three ring binder. My DAR glanced at the book and felt that was adequate. As he inspected the plane, though, he asked me a number of questions that probably could only readily be answered by the "true" builder (as an example, on an 8A there is a small plate that reinforces the lower section of a bulkhead where the step goes. I messed up a few of the rivets there and he wanted to know what the rivets were for). Re: your second question, your investment in your RV is going to be "substantial". Sort of like a car. With that in mind, taking an aerosport (I think that's what it is now called . . . used to be called something else) metal course over a weekend is great. Better still, via EAA or the rv-list find a builder and spend a few hours with this person. Many in the Denver area know Gary Zilik. In my case Gary's help was indispensable . . . not just re: riveting, but revealing hints and techniques that aided the building process. Good luck. Rick Jory RV8A ----- Original Message ----- From: WALTER KERR <kerrjb@msn.com> Subject: Re: RV-List: 51% Requirements and Orndorff Videos > --> RV-List message posted by: "WALTER KERR" <kerrjb@msn.com> > > Hi Scot, > > I do not believe most DAR's care for you pictures. When you apply for your > repairman certificate, they will be very interested because that is the > primary way they can ascertain that you were the builder. > > You may find the video useful, but suggest you find a local builder that you > can get a little OJT as an economical and good way to get your feet wet. If > you can't find anyone, just take a Fla vacation and hangout with me a week > :>) > > Bernie Kerr, 6A flying, 9A rotary power building.(you can see progress on my > 9A at www.rotaryaviation.com and click late developments and then bernie's > 9A project. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <tx_jayhawk@excite.com> > To: <rv-list@matronics.com> > Subject: RV-List: 51% Requirements and Orndorff Videos > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "" <tx_jayhawk@excite.com> > > > > All, > > > > > > A couple of questions from a newbie builder: > > > > > > 1) What are the specific documentation requirements to satisfy the 51% > rule? I would like to do a website. On inspection do people a) refer the DAR > to the website, b) print out copies and give them to inspector, or c) keep a > separate "manual" journal. For those that get by with just the website...how > often do the DARs like to see progress pictures? > > > > > > 2) I am just starting the building process, and the harsh reality that > my life will be dependant on the integrity of this structure is starting to > sink in. Does anyone have one or two of the used Orndorff videos for sale or > rent? Not having riveted anything before, I think it might make sense to get > some perspective. > > > > > > THanks, > > > Scott > > > RV7A Emp > > > > > > Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com > > The most personalized portal on the Web! > > > > > >


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    Time: 07:03:23 AM PST US
    From: "Tracy Crook" <lors01@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: wingtip differences
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Tracy Crook" <lors01@msn.com> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Frazier, Vincent A" <VFrazier@usi.edu> > > > A local HRII pilot switched from the old flattop wingtips to the new ones and lost a mph or so. > > Not much, but I suppose it's enough for some folks to worry about. Here's the condensed data: > > Results were: old Van tips=219.625 mph. After the change to the new "speed tips" =218.25. > > Vince in Indiana > F-1H Rocket with sheared tips under construction I thought I picked up a knot or so with the sheared tips but I get more variation in top speed with a small temperature change so I would not argue either way. The biggest change was that my wife liked the handling characteristics much better so she's more willing to take over when I need to read a chart. The airplane feels more "locked on course" with the sheared tips, kind of like the breakout force in roll is increased. Even so, I can't tell that the full deflection roll rate is affected at all but I expect it must be slightly less with the increased area outboard of the ailerons. Tracy Crook >


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    Time: 07:10:37 AM PST US
    From: "Tracy Crook" <lors01@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: [Fwd: AeroElectric-List: Lancair BMA Flight Testing] (EFIS
    info) --> RV-List message posted by: "Tracy Crook" <lors01@msn.com> > --> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com> > > Charlie, > > Thanks for the update on the BMA system... there's obviously great hope > for this set up. Maybe I'll start saving my money. > > Chuck I bought the BMA EFIS-1 a couple of years ago knowing full well that it would probably take a year or more to get the software right. The hardware platform looked good to me (I'm an EE) so I figured any shortcomings would eventually get fixed. That's the beauty of programmable devices. Sounds like it will be just about perfect by the time I get my RV-8 finished. Tracy Crook 13B powered RV-4 1300+ Hrs 20B powered RV-8 - cutting holes in the panel


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    Time: 08:14:39 AM PST US
    From: sjhdcl@kingston.net
    Subject: Fuel Lube
    --> RV-List message posted by: sjhdcl@kingston.net Anybody have another supplier (besides ACS) for fuel lube? I want to use it to sandwich the fuel tank gaskets. Might have to proseal everything which is not such a bad thing. FYI ACS is sold out until April. Steve Hurlbut RV7A Supercharged Eggenfellner Wiring & Canopy Frame


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    Time: 08:21:09 AM PST US
    From: "Elsa & Henry" <elsa-henry@darlor-watch.com>
    Subject: Re RV List: Red LED cockpit lights
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Elsa & Henry" <elsa-henry@darlor-watch.com> Check-out the "PHOTONPUMP V8" Led flashlight, Red, sold by Lee Valley (in major cities in Canada) and I'll quote verbatim from their catalogue: "----can illuminate objects up to 25' away. Superbly engineered, it won the German DASIGN PLUS award for 2001. Measures 2 1/2" long by 9/16" diameter and comes with six 1.5V button batteries (two installed and four extras), each pair good for 25+ hours. Each flashlight is packaged in a fitted, brushed-aluminum presentation case.---" (and here's the good part!)-Price: C$ 12.50 !! The Led Diode is guaranteed for 100,000 operating hours! I have bought two of them and will install them in my 6-A when I get active again in the Spring.BTW the body of the light includes a knob on the back end that includes a key-holder ring on a swivel link. It can easily be removed, that leaves a convenient ~ .135" dia. mounting hole. Lee Valley also carries two other products made by the same outfit, a blue "Flash-Fire" like a miniature Light-saber (a la Darth Vader?) and a "Moon-Lenser" which emits a full-moon shaped bright white light, same dia. as the red one but slightly longer, just over 3'', comes with four button-cell batteries (two installed and two extras) each set good for 50+ hours. I bought one of these too, good for inspection in tight places and handy in the cockpit. Price: C$ 17.50 Cheers!!-----------Henry Hore PS, I have no connection, monetary or otherwise with Lee Valley. Just love their products!


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    Time: 08:46:39 AM PST US
    From: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
    Subject: BMA Pricing
    --> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com> Well there is a reason why I'm flyin' an RV-4 and not a demil-ed F-18 or reconditioned F-86.... "funding", or lack there of. So I guess I'll just wait for the technology premium price to come down and save my $ while I'm waitin'. > > You had better jump in soon...the price has jumped considerably since last > year for the product and the mandatory service assistance contract. It > looks like BMA has decided to charge extra for their system now that it > actually may work... > Don Alexander > RV-8A > Wings > >


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    Time: 08:54:32 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fuel Lube
    From: Larry Pardue <n5lp@carlsbad.net>
    --> RV-List message posted by: Larry Pardue <n5lp@carlsbad.net> >--> RV-List message posted by: sjhdcl@kingston.net > > >Anybody have another supplier (besides ACS) for fuel lube? > >I want to use it to sandwich the fuel tank gaskets. Might have to proseal >everything which is not such a bad thing. > FWIW. I did not find it fun to remove the left tank at first annual to remove Fuel Lube sealed gasket and replace with Proseal sealed plate with no gasket (due to Fuel Lube deterioration and leakage). Nor did I find it fun to remove the right tank at the second annual to do the same. Lots of spare Fuel Lube in my hangar that I will never use. Larry Pardue Carlsbad, NM RV-6 N441LP Flying http://www.carlsbadnm.com/n5lp/index.htm


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    Time: 09:16:53 AM PST US
    From: "Thomas McCausland" <acceltek@acceltekservice.com>
    Subject: Re: Fuel Lube
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Thomas McCausland" <acceltek@acceltekservice.com> Date sent: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 11:12:27 -0500 From: sjhdcl@kingston.net Subject: RV-List: Fuel Lube Send reply to: rv-list@matronics.com > --> RV-List message posted by: sjhdcl@kingston.net > > > Anybody have another supplier (besides ACS) for fuel lube? > > I want to use it to sandwich the fuel tank gaskets. Might have to proseal > everything which is not such a bad thing. > > FYI ACS is sold out until April. > > Steve Hurlbut > RV7A > Supercharged Eggenfellner > Wiring & Canopy Frame > > Falconcrest Aviation Supply here in Houston has it on the shelf. I saw it the other day while shopping for other stuff. I'm sure you could get it from them with a credit card or whatever. I don't think they really have a website. Here is the info: Falconcrest Aviation Supply 8318 Braniff Houston,TX. 77061 Tel:713.644.0356 Fax:713.644.2290 Tom McCausland PPASEL N1576J PA-28-140


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    Time: 09:22:53 AM PST US
    From: "Robert Adams" <pingobingo@moseslake-wa.com>
    Subject: Re:RV-List; wingtip differences
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Robert Adams" <pingobingo@moseslake-wa.com> Does anyone notice any difference in stall speed, landing behaviour, or high altitude performance?


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    Time: 09:26:21 AM PST US
    From: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
    Subject: Re: Fuel Lube
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com> For what it's worth, I bought EZ-Turn from ACS. I was told it's exactly the same as Fuelube but it's cheaper and comes in a small tube...more convenient size. )_( Dan RV-7 N714D (fuselage/finish) http://www.rvproject.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <sjhdcl@kingston.net> Subject: RV-List: Fuel Lube > --> RV-List message posted by: sjhdcl@kingston.net > > > Anybody have another supplier (besides ACS) for fuel lube? > > I want to use it to sandwich the fuel tank gaskets. Might have to proseal > everything which is not such a bad thing. > > FYI ACS is sold out until April. > > Steve Hurlbut > RV7A > Supercharged Eggenfellner > Wiring & Canopy Frame > >


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    Time: 10:00:11 AM PST US
    From: MARTIN EMRATH <emrath@comcast.net>
    Subject: Static Air Kits
    --> RV-List message posted by: MARTIN EMRATH <emrath@comcast.net> Speak of things missing from their option kits, can someone tell me if the 3/16" tee is supposed to be included with the optional static air kit? Mine had everything else, but not this. I have since located a tee ("F" tee worked nice) but the local Home Depot and Loew's didn't have it, only 3/16" splices, and they did have the 1/4" O.D.x 0.170" I.D. hose that was included in the kit. Marty in Brentwood TN Subject: AFP install kit...no AN826-6D? From: Dan Checkoway (dan@rvproject.com) --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com> Hm...been working on the Airflow Performance high-pressure fuel pump installation, and I realized that the kit requires an AN826-6D tee fitting from the selector, tees into the filter and pump bypass. But it appears that the install kit came with everything BUT this fitting. Strange. I'm going to ask Van's if that was inadvertent or whether it's up to the builder to come up with that one fitting. Anyway, heads-up...save yourself time/shipping and order an AN826-6D when you get the pump & install kit! )_( Dan RV-7 N714D (fuselage/finish) http://www.rvproject.com


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    Time: 10:46:11 AM PST US
    Subject: Static Air Kits
    From: "Todd Wenzel" <TWenzel@heartland-software.com>
    MIME_EXCESSIVE_QP, MIME_LONG_LINE_QP@matronics.com, SPAM_PHRASE_01_02@matronics.com, SUBJECT_IS_LIST@matronics.com --> RV-List message posted by: "Todd Wenzel" <TWenzel@Heartland-Software.com> Yes, my static kit had the tee. Todd Wenzel Delafield, WI USA RV-8AQB - Finish Kit N900TW - Reserved TWenzel@Heartland-Software.com -----Original Message----- From: MARTIN EMRATH [mailto:emrath@comcast.net] Subject: RV-List: Static Air Kits --> RV-List message posted by: MARTIN EMRATH <emrath@comcast.net> Speak of things missing from their option kits, can someone tell me if the 3/16" tee is supposed to be included with the optional static air kit? Mine had everything else, but not this. I have since located a tee ("F" tee worked nice) but the local Home Depot and Loew's didn't have it, only 3/16" splices, and they did have the 1/4" O.D.x 0.170" I.D. hose that was included in the kit. Marty in Brentwood TN Subject: AFP install kit...no AN826-6D? From: Dan Checkoway (dan@rvproject.com) --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com> Hm...been working on the Airflow Performance high-pressure fuel pump installation, and I realized that the kit requires an AN826-6D tee fitting from the selector, tees into the filter and pump bypass. But it appears that the install kit came with everything BUT this fitting. Strange. I'm going to ask Van's if that was inadvertent or whether it's up to the builder to come up with that one fitting. Anyway, heads-up...save yourself time/shipping and order an AN826-6D when you get the pump & install kit! )_( Dan RV-7 N714D (fuselage/finish) http://www.rvproject.com


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    Time: 11:00:37 AM PST US
    From: Bobby Hester <bhester@hopkinsville.net>
    Subject: Re: Fuel Lube
    --> RV-List message posted by: Bobby Hester <bhester@hopkinsville.net> http://www.wicksaircraft.com/ they call it EZ Turn Fuel Lube sjhdcl@kingston.net wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: sjhdcl@kingston.net > > >Anybody have another supplier (besides ACS) for fuel lube? > >I want to use it to sandwich the fuel tank gaskets. Might have to proseal >everything which is not such a bad thing. > >FYI ACS is sold out until April. > >Steve Hurlbut >RV7A >Supercharged Eggenfellner >Wiring & Canopy Frame > > -- Surfing the Web from Hopkinsville, KY Visit my web site at: http://www.geocities.com/hester-hoptown/RVSite/ RV7A Working on the wings :-) Rans S12xl For Sale: http://www.spitfire.org/bhester/s12.html or http://www.geocities.com/hester-hoptown/NewSite/Ranss12xlForSale.html


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    Time: 11:05:02 AM PST US
    From: "Willke, Theodore L" <theodore.l.willke@intel.com>
    Subject: Restrictions on the Use of Experimental Aircraft
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Willke, Theodore L" <theodore.l.willke@intel.com> Hi All, Just joined the RV list and thought I'd give it a try. Looking to build an RV-7A. Here's the question: Can an Experimental Aircraft such as the RV be used like any other Factory-Built Aircraft after it is approved to enter Phase II certification? I've read the FAA's Airworthiness Certification of Aircraft... 8310.2D which modifies the restrictions placed on Experimentals from what is listed in 2003 FAR/AIM. For my purposes, I'd like to fly this aircraft IFR and in/out of controlled airspaces (Class C and D primarily) without special restrictions. 8130.2D would seem to permit this but the current 2003 FAR/AIM clearly does not. Do you know why 8310.2D has not been incorporated into the published FAR/AIM and when it may be added? Thanks! --Ted ------------------------------ Ted L. Willke Server I/O Architecture Enterprise Platforms Group Intel Corporation DuPont, WA


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    Time: 11:14:44 AM PST US
    From: "Brad Benson" <brad@cds-inc.com>
    Subject: Pitot hole in wing
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Brad Benson" <brad@cds-inc.com> I've finished up the installation of the Gretz pitot tube mount in the left wing of my RV6A quickbuild, but I've got one task left - plugging the hole left for the regular aluminum tube pitot supplied by Van's. Since this was a quickbuild kit, the hole was already punched in the wing for the builder to run the aluminum tube + fittings through, but since I went with a heated pitot option (the GretzAero kit is very well done, if anyone is thinking about it/looking at it) I now have a hole to plug. I don't have the plans in front of me, but it seems that the hole is perhaps 3/8" or 1/2" in diameter. Does anyone have any suggestions for plugging the hole? I'd appreciate any pointers on this - since it's on the wing next to the spar, I'm a little anxious about messing it up... Thanks! Brad "Sharpie" Benson RV6AQB underway... "Please buy my software, it's funding my RV6A project!" - http://www.notamd.com


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    Time: 11:15:13 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Clamp for nose strut fairing
    From: czechsix@juno.com
    --> RV-List message posted by: czechsix@juno.com Gary, I just went through the EXACT same problem on my -8A....got a 1/2" wide hose clamp from ACE Hardware and it's too big (hits the wheel pant when the wheel is turned from side to side). Checked several other hardware stores in town, finally looked online and found 5/16" clamps at McMaster Carr. Ordered them and the fit is perfect. I wrote Vans an e-mail and said that after spending several hours and many times the money it should have cost (you can't order just one clamp from McMaster, plus you pay shipping) I think adding this to the kit would be a good idea. In fact, I can't figure out why they don't just put in the right sized clamps for all the gear leg fairings....it's not like it's an optional or user-preference item like avionics or paint...? Anyway it's good they're hearing it from other builders, so that future builders won't have to go through this painful ordeal : ) Almost makes me wish I'd built a taildragger....almost... --Mark Navratil Cedar Rapids, Iowa RV-8A N2D finishing -------------------------------------------------------- Time: 10:09:47 PM PST US From: "Gary" <rv9er@3rivers.net> Subject: RV-List: Clamp for nose strut fairing --> RV-List message posted by: "Gary" <rv9er@3rivers.net> Andy, Yeah, mine is done........except for finding the specified 3/8 inch wide hose clamp. I was just going to post a message on the list about this, to see what solutions people had. The problem is not the pant.....it is the clamp. The deal is, the only hose clamps I can find in a big enough size to go around the nose strut and fairing are all 1/2 inch wide. Vans calls out a 3/8 inch wide clamp. I called Van's on this, after searching all the hardware stores, and the aircraft supply catalogs. The only place I have not checked is McMaster-Carr. Van's didn't have an answer, other than what I'd already tried. He said it shouldn't be a problem to find narrow hose clamps. I said, fine, you guys find them, and include them in the kit. Bottom line is, the pant and fairing fit fine, we just need a clamp that is narrow enough and has a small enough worm drive so it won't hit the inside of the front of the nose pant when the gear pivots. I'll post this to the two lists and see what we stir up. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: Andy Karmy Subject: Nose wheel pant? Hey Gary, I'm having a hard time getting the nosewheel pant to work out. Have you fit that part yet? I finished mounting the pant and everything was fine until I tried to install the nose gear leg fairing. Seems the hoseclamp at the bottom is too high (when pressed all the way down) so it apears that I got the pant mounted too low (by about 3/16") so now I can't hide the clamp inside the pant... Did yours work out, or have you done it yet? - Andy


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    Time: 11:33:21 AM PST US
    From: Rob Miller <rmill2000@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Leaky Fuel Caps
    --> RV-List message posted by: Rob Miller <rmill2000@yahoo.com> Hello Ok. Easy Question. My -8 blows fuel out of both caps shortly after takeoff when the tanks are full. This obviously makes a mess, wastes money, and makes the passenger somewhat concerned. What is the trick to prevent this aside from putting a bead of black grease around the seal (I guess I will if I have to)? Rob Miller RV-8 N262RM "Bad Cat" 40 hours


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    Time: 11:46:05 AM PST US
    From: Lenleg@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Leaky Fuel Caps
    --> RV-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com Rob: Can't wait to hear the responses because I am having the exact same problem. I have tightened the caps to the point I couldn't close them if I make them any tighter. I have put fuel lube on the o ring to the point my caps are messy. I don't fill the tanks all the way up ...... and I still get leaks ....???? Do Not Archive Len Leggette RV-8A N901LL Greensboro, N.C. 49 hours !!


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    Time: 11:53:50 AM PST US
    Subject: Taylor Pneumatic Tools
    From: "Bert Penney" <van@entechnos.com>
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Bert Penney" <van@entechnos.com> As a result of email conversations on this list, I was able to find a local tool supplier. However, the only pneumatic tool line they carry is Taylor. I have no experience with these at all and was wondering if anyone else has any recommendations on this line. Thanks Bert


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    Time: 11:56:51 AM PST US
    From: Chris <chrisw3@cox.net>
    RV-list <rv-list@matronics.com>
    Subject: Led lights in the plane
    --> RV-List message posted by: Chris <chrisw3@cox.net> With LED lights being the craze these days, I would like to put some in my plane. Finding the LEDs is easy enough but in order to power them you need to have a way to control the out put voltage with a variable input voltage. I would also like to have the ability to dim the LEDs so does anyone know where I can get a circuit like that so I can wire up my own LEDs wherever I want to? If I'm not mistaken, the voltage going to the LED needs to be controlled fairly well because if you send too much you could shorten the life of the LED quite a bit. -- Chris Woodhouse 3147 SW 127th St. Oklahoma City, OK 73170 405-691-5206 (home) chrisw@programmer.net N35? 20.492' W97? 34.342'


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    Time: 12:06:29 PM PST US
    From: "Brad Benson" <brad@cds-inc.com>
    Subject: Re: Taylor Pneumatic Tools
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Brad Benson" <brad@cds-inc.com> I bought a set of Taylor tools a couple years ago (3x gun, drill, pop riveter, etc.) from Brown Tool and have been very happy with them. I would certainly buy them again, based on my experience with them. Thanks! Brad "Sharpie" Benson RV6AQB underway... "Please buy my software, it's funding my RV6A project!" - http://www.notamd.com *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 1/17/2003 at 12:58 PM Bert Penney wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Bert Penney" <van@entechnos.com> > >As a result of email conversations on this list, I was able to find a >local tool supplier. However, the only pneumatic tool line they carry >is Taylor. I have no experience with these at all and was wondering if >anyone else has any recommendations on this line. > >Thanks > >Bert > >


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    Time: 12:23:59 PM PST US
    From: "Konrad Werner" <Connywerner@wans.net>
    Subject: Re: Pitot hole in wing
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Konrad Werner" <Connywerner@wans.net> Dear Brad, Why don' you use the existing hole for an OAT-Sensor (may need a doubler plate inside the wing). Nice and shady down there if you fly mainly right side up, and away from the Exhaust-Heat. Other than that, cut out (press out?) a round piece of aluminum the diameter of the hole, and rivet that to a doubler plate inside the wing. Konrad DO NOT ARCHIVE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Benson" <brad@cds-inc.com> Subject: RV-List: Pitot hole in wing > --> RV-List message posted by: "Brad Benson" <brad@cds-inc.com> > > > I've finished up the installation of the Gretz pitot tube mount in the left wing of my RV6A quickbuild, but I've got one task left - plugging the hole left for the regular aluminum tube pitot supplied by Van's. Since this was a quickbuild kit, the hole was already punched in the wing for the builder to run the aluminum tube + fittings through, but since I went with a heated pitot option (the GretzAero kit is very well done, if anyone is thinking about it/looking at it) I now have a hole to plug. I don't have the plans in front of me, but it seems that the hole is perhaps 3/8" or 1/2" in diameter. > > Does anyone have any suggestions for plugging the hole? I'd appreciate any pointers on this - since it's on the wing next to the spar, I'm a little anxious about messing it up... > > Thanks! > Brad "Sharpie" Benson > RV6AQB underway... > "Please buy my software, it's funding my RV6A project!" - http://www.notamd.com > >


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    Time: 12:53:29 PM PST US
    From: Oldsfolks@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Pitot hole in win
    --> RV-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com How about a snap-in plug for that hole ? They come in lots of sizes and you can paint right over it. Bob Olds A&P , EAA Tech. Counselor RV-4 , N1191X , Flying Now Charleston, Arkansas "Real Aviators Fly Taildraggers"


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    Time: 01:16:47 PM PST US
    From: "DALE HARVEY" <DHARVEY564@msn.com>
    Subject: BMA pricing
    --> RV-List message posted by: "DALE HARVEY" <DHARVEY564@msn.com> Don, They raised the price about this time last year even before they had the bugs worked out. Lancair helped out last fall to get the last few problems fixed. Dale Harvey RV-7A Wings


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    Time: 01:19:14 PM PST US
    From: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
    Subject: Re: AFP install kit...no AN826-6D?
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com> Update: I spoke to Van's parts dept this morning and they confirmed that I was supposed to get the AN826-6D tee fitting in bag 605. No joy, so they're sending me the fitting no charge. )_( Dan do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com> Subject: RV-List: AFP install kit...no AN826-6D? > --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com> > > Hm...been working on the Airflow Performance high-pressure fuel pump > installation, and I realized that the kit requires an AN826-6D tee fitting > from the selector, tees into the filter and pump bypass. But it appears > that the install kit came with everything BUT this fitting. Strange. I'm > going to ask Van's if that was inadvertent or whether it's up to the builder > to come up with that one fitting. > > Anyway, heads-up...save yourself time/shipping and order an AN826-6D when > you get the pump & install kit! > > )_( Dan > RV-7 N714D (fuselage/finish) > http://www.rvproject.com > >


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    Time: 01:25:56 PM PST US
    From: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com>
    Subject: Leaky Fuel Caps
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com> Hi Rob, I just finished solving that very problem. Take the caps out, lossen up the lock nut, and tighten screw the bottom wedge up a turn or two. Makes them fit tighter, and then you don't have that unsightly streak of "dumping" fuel with the tanks are topped off! I've had to tighten my fuel caps more than once over the past 80 hours, but now I think they are good! Cheers, Stein Bruch RV6, Minneapolis --> RV-List message posted by: Rob Miller <rmill2000@yahoo.com> Hello Ok. Easy Question. My -8 blows fuel out of both caps shortly after takeoff when the tanks are full. This obviously makes a mess, wastes money, and makes the passenger somewhat concerned. What is the trick to prevent this aside from putting a bead of black grease around the seal (I guess I will if I have to)? Rob Miller RV-8 N262RM "Bad Cat" 40 hours


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    Time: 02:31:35 PM PST US
    From: HCRV6@aol.com
    Subject: Need Sensenich prop spacer for 0-360
    --> RV-List message posted by: HCRV6@aol.com Does anybody out there that has changed from fixed pitch Sensenich to CS have a Sensenich spacer spool, the 2 1/4th inch long one for 1/2 inch bolts for an 0-360, laying around that they would consider loaning me so I can get started on my cowling while waiting for my prop to arrive. I would gladly pay shipping and insurance both ways and would need it for about four to six weeks according to Van's current delivery estimates. I'm also looking for a cover plate for the prop governor adapter hole if anyone can suggest where I can find one at a reasonable price. Harry Crosby Pleasanton, California RV-6, starting firewall forward


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    Time: 03:47:40 PM PST US
    From: "Elsa & Henry" <elsa-henry@darlor-watch.com>
    Subject: Re: Led lights in the plane
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Elsa & Henry" <elsa-henry@darlor-watch.com> Chris, The important thing in LEDs is not to exceed the forward CURRENT over what the device is rated for. The forward voltage will not vary much, depending on the LED. Typical Vf (forward voltage) is in the range of 1.2 to 3 volts and forward current can be up to 100 milliamps, again depending on the LED. For instance the PHOTONPUMP Flashlight that I described in my List Post this morning, consumes 70 milliamps from a 3 volt battery and putting a 27 ohm resistor in series dims the light considerably. If you use an adjustable voltage regulator device like a LM317, powered from your Bus, (say, 14 Volts), the maximum voltage you would get out of it would be about 12.5 volts with the adjustment turned full up. You will then have to use a current limiting resistor of a value so the current will not exceed the rated forward current of your LED. Example, if I use the PHOTONPUMP device above, I know it consumes 70 milliamps so connecting the voltage regulator to it instead of the batteries, I'd have to drop 12-5 - 3 divided by .07, or 9.5 /.07= 138 ohms. (Or the nearest higher standard value) The power dissipated by the resistor would be 9.5 X .07= .665 watts. A standard 1 watt resistor will do. The LM317 is available at Radio Shack and I think the package has a simple schematic on how to use it. Hope this helps.----------Cheers------Henry Hore


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    Time: 04:31:07 PM PST US
    From: "Tom & Cathy Ervin" <tcervin@valkyrie.net>
    Subject: Re: Pitot hole in wing
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Tom & Cathy Ervin" <tcervin@valkyrie.net> Brad, I believe you will find that (Other Hole) is treaded and is for your "Wing Tie Down". I also installed the Gretz Pitot on my RV6A-QB. Tom in Ohio ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Benson" <brad@cds-inc.com> Subject: RV-List: Pitot hole in wing > --> RV-List message posted by: "Brad Benson" <brad@cds-inc.com> > > > I've finished up the installation of the Gretz pitot tube mount in the left wing of my RV6A quickbuild, but I've got one task left - plugging the hole left for the regular aluminum tube pitot supplied by Van's. Since this was a quickbuild kit, the hole was already punched in the wing for the builder to run the aluminum tube + fittings through, but since I went with a heated pitot option (the GretzAero kit is very well done, if anyone is thinking about it/looking at it) I now have a hole to plug. I don't have the plans in front of me, but it seems that the hole is perhaps 3/8" or 1/2" in diameter. > > Does anyone have any suggestions for plugging the hole? I'd appreciate any pointers on this - since it's on the wing next to the spar, I'm a little anxious about messing it up... > > Thanks! > Brad "Sharpie" Benson > RV6AQB underway... > "Please buy my software, it's funding my RV6A project!" - http://www.notamd.com > >


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    Time: 04:48:31 PM PST US
    From: WPAerial@aol.com
    Subject: Re:upholstery ?
    --> RV-List message posted by: WPAerial@aol.com I have gone to the archives without luck. How do you sew or what ever the center panels in the seats so they have a valley and don't stretch a crossed the top? Jerry Wilken RV6A N699WP 14 HR. do not archive


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    Time: 05:19:36 PM PST US
    From: Jerry2DT@aol.com
    Subject: CS vs. Fixed pitch O-360?
    --> RV-List message posted by: Jerry2DT@aol.com Group... I know someone out there must have a performance comparison for an O-360 Lyc between a constant speed and fixed pitch prop. Am interested in takeoff and climb differences. I know Vans' had a chart someplace but I can't find it. Thanx, Jerry Cochran


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    Time: 05:54:58 PM PST US
    From: "Robert Hasson" <hassonr@theriver.com>
    Subject: Leaky Fuel Caps
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Robert Hasson" <hassonr@theriver.com> Rob, The first time I filled my tip tanks (Johanson's) on my -6A, I had the same problem. I traced the source of the leak to the small "O" ring around the shaft. The "O" ring seal fits the ID of the cap, and the OD of the shaft satisfactorily. However, you will notice that the counter-bore in the cap for the "O" ring is exactly the same depth as the thickness of the "O" ring. When the cap is in the locked position, the "O" ring is not compressed in thickness. Therefore, fuel can weep by the "O" ring seal no matter how much you tighten the adjustment. For ANY "O" ring seal to be effective it must be compressed to expand the seal. I spoke with the provider of the caps and explained my discovery, he replied that no one else had reported the problem, so it must be unique to my caps. I have four fuel caps on my plane, and they are dimensionally the same. I can only assume that all caps are manufactured to the same engineering drawing and will leak under certain conditions. I must say that the manufacturer was very courteous, listened patiently, was not defensive of his product.......I think he just didn't understand the point I was trying to make. The fix is to reduce the depth of the counter-bore approximately .050" during the machining process. Obviously that would be of no assistance to those of us who already have fuel caps. My solution (field repair) was to place a Teflon back-up on top of the "O" ring. A "back-up" is essentially a Teflon washer that is placed on either side of "O" rings seals when they are exposed to dynamic usage, for instance in hydraulic servos or pistons in aircraft flight control systems (back-ups compress the seals without damaging them). The objective is to compress the "O" ring so it can provide a seal between the shaft and cap. I think you could just as well use a stainless washer in this application, I used the Teflon back-ups simply because I had several surplus kits. Bob Hasson RV-6A (very red) N606BH 230 happy hours -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Miller Subject: RV-List: Leaky Fuel Caps --> RV-List message posted by: Rob Miller <rmill2000@yahoo.com> Hello Ok. Easy Question. My -8 blows fuel out of both caps shortly after takeoff when the tanks are full. This obviously makes a mess, wastes money, and makes the passenger somewhat concerned. What is the trick to prevent this aside from putting a bead of black grease around the seal (I guess I will if I have to)? Rob Miller RV-8 N262RM "Bad Cat" 40 hours


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    Time: 06:42:23 PM PST US
    From: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
    Subject: Re: Need Sensenich prop spacer for 0-360
    --> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net> HCRV6@aol.com wrote: > > --> RV-List message posted by: HCRV6@aol.com > > Does anybody out there that has changed from fixed pitch Sensenich to CS have > a Sensenich spacer spool, the 2 1/4th inch long one for 1/2 inch bolts for an > 0-360, laying around that they would consider loaning me so I can get started > on my cowling while waiting for my prop to arrive. I would gladly pay > shipping and insurance both ways and would need it for about four to six > weeks according to Van's current delivery estimates. I'm also looking for a > cover plate for the prop governor adapter hole if anyone can suggest where I > can find one at a reasonable price. > > Harry Crosby > Pleasanton, California > RV-6, starting firewall forward Harry, you can make it just fine without the spacer. Here is a link showing how to locate the rear spinner bulkhead without the spacer so you can do the cowl fit-up: http://home.hiwaay.net/~sbuc/journal/engine2.html Scroll to about mid-page to see the PVC pipe spacers. Sam Buchanan (RV-6)


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    Time: 07:16:32 PM PST US
    From: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@usjet.net>
    Subject: Leaky Fuel Caps
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@usjet.net> I also had this problem. I recently disassembled the caps, and added fuel lube not just to the o-rings, but also in between the metal cap parts and the nylon beveled washers. I carefully pried them off their bosses on the two halves, and goobered the area under the nylon with fuel lube. I suspect that this is the area that mine leaked, since there was also a bit of corrosion under the nylon. Anyway, no leaks now. Now, does anyone have a way to get these caps off when the temperature is below about 10 degrees F? I have to really work them to get them off when it is cold. And another thing - Van sells replacement "washers" made from SS to go under the release tabs. The original plastic ones which came on mine (in '93) gouge out right away and cause the tab to sit up in the slipstream a little. Alex Peterson Maple Grove, MN RV6-A N66AP 249 hours www.usfamily.net/web/alexpeterson


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    Time: 07:54:40 PM PST US
    From: "Tim Lewis" <timrv6a@earthlink.net>
    owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
    Subject: Re: Clamp for nose strut fairing
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Lewis" <timrv6a@earthlink.net> I took two little short narrow ones and hooked 'em up in series. Tim From: "Gary" <rv9er@3rivers.net> Subject: RV-List: Clamp for nose strut fairing Date sent: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 22:54:23 -0700 Send reply to: rv-list@matronics.com > --> RV-List message posted by: "Gary" <rv9er@3rivers.net> > > Andy, > > Yeah, mine is done........except for finding the specified 3/8 inch wide hose clamp. I was just going to post a message on the list about this, to see what solutions people had. > > The problem is not the pant.....it is the clamp. The deal is, the only hose clamps I can find in a big enough size to go around the nose strut and fairing are all 1/2 inch wide. Vans calls out a 3/8 inch wide clamp. I called Van's on this, after searching all the hardware stores, and the aircraft supply catalogs. The only place I have not checked is McMaster-Carr. > > Van's didn't have an answer, other than what I'd already tried. He said it shouldn't be a problem to find narrow hose clamps. I said, fine, you guys find them, and include them in the kit. > > Bottom line is, the pant and fairing fit fine, we just need a clamp that is narrow enough and has a small enough worm drive so it won't hit the inside of the front of the nose pant when the gear pivots. > > I'll post this to the two lists and see what we stir up. > > Gary > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Andy Karmy > To: rv9er@3rivers.net > Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 4:05 PM > Subject: Nose wheel pant? > > > Hey Gary, > > I'm having a hard time getting the nosewheel pant to work out. Have you fit that part yet? I fi nished mounting the pant and everything was fine until I tried to install the nose gear leg fairing . Seems the hoseclamp at the bottom is too high (when pressed all the way down) so it apears that I got the pant mounted too low (by about 3/16") so now I can't hide the clamp inside the pant... Did yours work out, or have you done it yet? > > - Andy > > > --- > Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 12/22/02 > > > > > > ****** Tim Lewis -- HEF (Manassas, VA) RV-6A N47TD - First Flight 18 Dec 99 http://www.geocities.com/timrv6a ******


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    Time: 08:22:39 PM PST US
    From: kempthornes <kempthornes@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Need Sensenich prop spacer for 0-360
    --> RV-List message posted by: kempthornes <kempthornes@earthlink.net> At 05:29 PM 1/17/2003 -0500, you wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: HCRV6@aol.com > >Does anybody out there that has changed from fixed pitch Sensenich to CS have >a Sensenich spacer spool, the 2 1/4th inch long one for 1/2 inch bolts for an >0-360, laying around that they would consider loaning me so I can get started >on my cowling while waiting for my prop to arrive Harry, I used some pieces of heavy 3/4" ( ? ) poly pipe as spacers. Worked great. K. H. (Hal) Kempthorne RV6-a N7HK flying! PRB (El Paso de Robles, CA)


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    Time: 09:08:07 PM PST US
    From: "Randall Henderson" <randallh@attbi.com>
    Subject: Re: Led lights in the plane
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Randall Henderson" <randallh@attbi.com> > With LED lights being the craze these days, I would like to put > some in my plane. [snip] Sounds like you're looking at doing something similar to what I did. Go look at http://www.edt.com/homewing/rhproject/cabinlts.html to see my write-up on it. Randall Henderson, RV-6 N6R (~450 hrs) Portland, OR www.vanshomewing.org do not archive


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    Time: 09:13:58 PM PST US
    From: Jeff Bertsch <noms1reqd@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Led lights in the plane
    --> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Bertsch <noms1reqd@yahoo.com> Henry, I read your description of the Photonpump and would like to get one. But I can't find any on-line anywhere. The only sites I can find that sell it are in Germany. Do you know anywhere they can be ordered in the states? Thanks. Jeff Bertsch RV-4, Houston, TX ---------------------------------


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    Time: 09:17:32 PM PST US
    From: "Randall Henderson" <randallh@attbi.com>
    Subject: Re: Fuel Lube
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Randall Henderson" <randallh@attbi.com> > FWIW. I did not find it fun to remove the left tank at first annual to > remove Fuel Lube sealed gasket and replace with Proseal sealed plate with > no gasket (due to Fuel Lube deterioration and leakage). Nor did I find > it fun to remove the right tank at the second annual to do the same. I second that. Search the archives and you'll find a bunch of people who's leaky tanks were a result of trying to get around prosealing the plates on. Kind of defeats the purpose of "just in case I have to take them off to fix a leaky tank..." I did have to replace a sender that went bad, and while I admit it wasn't much fun prying the prosealed-on plate off of there, it wasn't all that big a deal, And the plates themselves have never leaked. Randall Henderson, RV-6 N6R (~450 hrs) Portland, OR www.vanshomewing.org


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    Time: 09:31:22 PM PST US
    From: "Meketa" <acgm@gvtc.com>
    Subject: Re: Pitot hole in wing
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Meketa" <acgm@gvtc.com> Brad Install a small doubler with an appropriate thickness aluminum slug installed with one rivit. Simple and invisible. Been there, done that. George Meketa RV-8, 239 hours > > I've finished up the installation of the Gretz pitot tube mount in the > left wing of my RV6A quickbuild, but I've got one task left - plugging the > hole left for the regular aluminum tube pitot supplied by Van's. Since > this was a quickbuild kit, the hole was already punched in the wing for the > builder to run the aluminum tube + fittings through, but since I went with a > heated pitot option (the GretzAero kit is very well done, if anyone is > thinking about it/looking at it) I now have a hole to plug. I don't have > the plans in front of me, but it seems that the hole is perhaps 3/8" or 1/2" > in diameter. > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions for plugging the hole? I'd appreciate > any pointers on this - since it's on the wing next to the spar, I'm a little > anxious about messing it up... > > > > Thanks! > > Brad "Sharpie" Benson > > RV6AQB underway...


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    Time: 09:32:22 PM PST US
    From: "Garth Shearing" <garth@Islandnet.com>
    Subject: Re: Led lights in the plane
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Garth Shearing" <garth@islandnet.com> Since LED light output is a function of current through the diode it is better to power the diode or diodes with a current regulator. This can be done with a few resistors, a transistor, a couple or ordinary diodes and a potentiometer to vary the current and the associated light ouput if desired. I haven't looked at the literature recently, but there may be some power integrated circuits which do the whole job. I noted the other day that a car I was following had a large string of LED's for the high centre stop lamp. Four of them were dimmer than the rest. I would bet that they are powering their LED's in fours (4 times 2.2 volts or so equals 8.8 volts or so) and they may be using a commonly available current regulator. Garth Shearing VariEze and 80% RV6A Victoria BC Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris <chrisw3@cox.net> <rv-list@matronics.com> Subject: RV-List: Led lights in the plane > --> RV-List message posted by: Chris <chrisw3@cox.net> > > With LED lights being the craze these days, I would like to put some in > my plane. Finding the LEDs is easy enough but in order to power them > you need to have a way to control the out put voltage with a variable > input voltage. I would also like to have the ability to dim the LEDs so > does anyone know where I can get a circuit like that so I can wire up my > own LEDs wherever I want to? If I'm not mistaken, the voltage going to > the LED needs to be controlled fairly well because if you send too much > you could shorten the life of the LED quite a bit. > > -- > Chris Woodhouse > 3147 SW 127th St. > Oklahoma City, OK 73170 > 405-691-5206 (home) > chrisw@programmer.net > N35? 20.492' > W97? 34.342' > >


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    Time: 09:49:45 PM PST US
    From: "RV6 Flyer" <rv6_flyer@hotmail.com>
    Subject: 4 into one exhaust
    --> RV-List message posted by: "RV6 Flyer" <rv6_flyer@hotmail.com> Had a friend ask me if I knew of anyone making a 4 into 1 exhaust for an RV. He had one on his old RV-6 but does not know where he got it. His old engine was from Lycon and they recommened the 4 into 1 exhaust that he had. His new RV has an engine from Performance Aero Engines and he wants the 4 into 1 exhaust again. Can anyone send me a name with email, phone number, or web site to contact? I am happy with my High Country Vetterman exhaust and would use it again. Different strokes for differnt folks. Gary A. Sobek "My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell, 1,239 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA http://SoCAL_WVAF.rvproject.com




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