Today's Message Index:
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1. 02:14 AM - Re: Air drills (mstewart@qa.butler.com)
2. 04:25 AM - Fun Friday Ramblings (Dana Overall)
3. 06:07 AM - Re: Looking for AN929-4D cap (Richard V. Reynolds)
4. 06:16 AM - KY, OH, TN get together (Dana Overall)
5. 06:16 AM - Re: This insurance stuff. (Lenleg@aol.com)
6. 06:29 AM - Re: KY, OH, TN get together (RGray67968@aol.com)
7. 06:32 AM - Long Lok self sealing screws (Scott Kuebler)
8. 06:35 AM - Re: Air drills (lm4@juno.com)
9. 06:49 AM - Services for Carroll Bird (Hobby Stevens)
10. 07:36 AM - Re: Air drills (P M Condon)
11. 07:48 AM - Be Aware FAA can pull anyones license without recourse.. SECURITY (Hal Rozema)
12. 08:06 AM - Re: Electroluminescent Lighting (Hal Rozema)
13. 08:14 AM - Re: Air drills (Neil McLeod)
14. 08:22 AM - Fw: Be Aware FAA can pull anyones license without recourse.. SECURITY (C. Rabaut)
15. 08:25 AM - Fw: Fun Friday Ramblings (C. Rabaut)
16. 08:25 AM - Hours for wiring... (Bill VonDane)
17. 08:32 AM - Is Lightspeed Worth It? (Rob Miller)
18. 08:37 AM - Re: Air drills (Rick Galati)
19. 08:39 AM - Re: Airflow Performance bypass valve cabling question (John Brick)
20. 08:45 AM - Re: Air drills (Elsa & Henry)
21. 09:02 AM - Fw: Hours for wiring... (C. Rabaut)
22. 09:14 AM - Experimental Panel Builder (Nightingale Michael)
23. 09:15 AM - Re: Hours for wiring... (Pat Hatch)
24. 09:17 AM - Re: Is Lightspeed Worth It? (Schilling Karl)
25. 09:29 AM - Threadlocker Fluid (cecilth@juno.com)
26. 09:37 AM - Re: Is Lightspeed Worth It? (Dave von Linsowe)
27. 09:41 AM - Re: Be Aware FAA can pull anyones license without recourse.. SECURITY (Cy Galley)
28. 09:56 AM - Re: Re: Off-List reply Re: Insurance (JRWillJR@aol.com)
29. 09:56 AM - Re: Is Lightspeed Worth It? (Kyle Boatright)
30. 09:59 AM - Re: Airflow Performance bypass valve cabling question (Norman, Jim)
31. 10:03 AM - Fw: Be Aware FAA can pull anyones license without recourse.. SECURITY (C. Rabaut)
32. 10:04 AM - Re: Is Lightspeed Worth It? (David Burton)
33. 10:12 AM - Re: Experimental Panel Builder (Bill VonDane)
34. 10:32 AM - Re: Hours for wiring... (Knicholas2@aol.com)
35. 10:44 AM - Re: Services for Carroll Bird (Doug Rozendaal)
36. 10:49 AM - Re: Long Lok self sealing screws (Tom F Gastrich)
37. 10:52 AM - Experimental Panel Builder (Bill VonDane)
38. 10:54 AM - Re: Services for Carroll Bird (lucky macy)
39. 10:58 AM - Re: Experimental Panel Builder (Chris)
40. 11:10 AM - Be Aware FAA can pull anyones license without recourse.. SECURITY ** At what price? (C. Rabaut)
41. 11:11 AM - Re: Air drills (HCRV6@aol.com)
42. 11:36 AM - Re: Hours for wiring... (JDaniel343@aol.com)
43. 11:39 AM - A1A vs M1B (jonweisw@rcn.com)
44. 11:41 AM - FWF kits (jonweisw@rcn.com)
45. 11:47 AM - Re: Hours for wiring... (HCRV6@aol.com)
46. 12:01 PM - Re: Re: Air drills (Sam Buchanan)
47. 12:02 PM - Re: FWF kits (Scott Brumbelow)
48. 12:22 PM - VM1000 cyl head temp prob install (David Aronson)
49. 12:22 PM - Re: Airflow Performance bypass valve cabling question (DJB6A@cs.com)
50. 12:27 PM - Re: Be Aware FAA can pull anyones license without recourse.. SECU (Wiethe, Philip (P.J.))
51. 12:58 PM - Re: Re: Be Aware FAA can pull anyones license without recourse.. SECU RITY (Rick Jory)
52. 12:58 PM - Fw: Re: Be Aware FAA can pull anyones license without recourse.. SECU RITY (C. Rabaut)
53. 01:00 PM - Headset/Mic jacks (Ed_Cole@maximhq.com)
54. 01:07 PM - KMD-150 (Paul Brown)
55. 01:27 PM - Re: Headset/Mic jacks (Larry Bowen)
56. 01:49 PM - Re: Headset/Mic jacks (Rick Jory)
57. 02:02 PM - Re: Is Lightspeed Worth It? (Ollie Washburn)
58. 02:14 PM - Re: Headset/Mic jacks (Rob Prior)
59. 02:39 PM - Re: Headset/Mic jacks (helicopter jacks) (Dan Checkoway)
60. 02:43 PM - VM-1000 Cyl. Temp.Probe (Bob n' Lu Olds)
61. 02:46 PM - Re: Simmons oil sump (Bbbb Green)
62. 03:03 PM - Re: Carpet attachment? (Jim Oke)
63. 03:04 PM - Re: Experimental Panel Builder (Bill VonDane)
64. 03:06 PM - Re: Air drills (Mark Antenbring)
65. 03:15 PM - Re: Experimental Panel Builder (Terry Watson)
66. 03:26 PM - Re: Re: Experimental Panel Builder (Dan Checkoway)
67. 03:28 PM - Re: VM1000 cyl head temp prob install (Rv8don@aol.com)
68. 03:52 PM - Re: Air drills (Kenneth Beene)
69. 04:04 PM - Re: KY, OH, TN get together (Jerry Springer)
70. 04:08 PM - Re: Is Lightspeed Worth It? (Jerry Springer)
71. 04:17 PM - Sioux Air Drills - Adv. (BrownTool@aol.com)
72. 04:34 PM - Re: KY, OH, TN get together (Dana Overall)
73. 04:43 PM - Re: Headset/Mic jacks (Jim Sears)
74. 04:57 PM - Re: FWF kits (Vince Himsl)
75. 05:19 PM - Re: FWF kits (Jim Jewell)
76. 05:59 PM - Re: Is Lightspeed Worth It? (Alex Peterson)
77. 06:02 PM - Re: Is Lightspeed Worth It? (John)
78. 06:23 PM - Re: Fw: Hours for wiring... (Charlie Kuss)
79. 06:47 PM - Re: Is Lightspeed Worth It? (Tracy Crook)
80. 08:39 PM - Thank You (DANIEL W WATTERS)
81. 08:45 PM - Re: Is Lightspeed Worth It? (RV6 Flyer)
82. 08:50 PM - Re: Hours for wiring... (David Aronson)
83. 08:58 PM - My 7A QB Kit arrived at Vans (Karie Daniel)
84. 09:01 PM - Re: VM-1000 Cyl. Temp.Probe (David Aronson)
85. 09:13 PM - Re: My 7A QB Kit arrived at Vans (John Starn)
86. 09:54 PM - Re: My 7A QB Kit arrived at Vans (Terry Watson)
87. 09:54 PM - Re: Hours for wiring... (Mark Phillips)
88. 10:11 PM - Re: My 7A QB Kit arrived at Vans (Karie Daniel)
89. 11:55 PM - Re: Carpet attachment? (Randall Henderson)
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--> RV-List message posted by: mstewart@qa.butler.com
Ditto on Kyle's message.
And we had to DRILL OUR HOLES!.
Mine HD one still works fine.
Mike Stewart
6A flying
-----Original Message-----
From: Kyle Boatright [mailto:kyle.boatright@adelphia.net]
Subject: Re: RV-List: Air drills
--> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright"
<kyle.boatright@adelphia.net>
The $29.95 air drill I bought from Home Depot did just fine. You don't need
to buy an expensive drill. Certainly you may get a "better" drill for more
money, but you don't NEED a better drill.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Will & Lynda Allen" <linenwool@attbi.com>
Subject: RV-List: Air drills
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Will & Lynda Allen" <linenwool@attbi.com>
>
> Well so much for the air drill I picked up at Boeing Surplus, it didn't
even
> make it through the HS! I'm going to buy new this time but maybe I can
> still get away with something not too expensive. Is anyone using the
"under
> $100" air drills available at Browns or Cleveland and finding them to do
the
> job just fine or do I really have to fork out a couple hundred for an air
> drill? Also, so that I don't have to stop working while waiting for a new
> drill, has anyone used their Makita for any work?
>
> -Will Allen
> North Bend, Wa
> RV8 emp
>
>
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| Subject: | Fun Friday Ramblings |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
>From: kempthornes <kempthornes@earthlink.net>
>At 07:53 PM 1/23/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> >--> RV-List message posted by: Miller Robert <rmiller3@earthlink.net>
>
>You are wrong! I, for one, have benefited from this discussion.
>Use your delete key.
>
>
>K. H. (Hal) Kempthorne
JT, I hate chiming in on things like this but I, and apparently many,
appreciate your insight into this discussion. It is related to RVs, as
opposed to what some may think. I may not agree with insurance but it is a
nessesary evil.
BTW gang, my Bonanza insurance is right at what we are paying for RV
insurance and that is based on the low high performance/complex time my
partner has. The quotes, if you covered (sorry JT:-) seem reasonable.
OH, while I'm stirring stink...............I'll compare a nosewheel to the
face mask on a football helmet.........It's an improvement on something
outdated/old/ingrained/traditional (what else can I stir with). All you
nosedragger guys, properly landing a tailwheel is no for difficult than
properly landing a nosewheel, the key word is properly. Besides, they don't
paint a red S on the chest of the tailwheel gang.
All in fun gang, remember it is Fun Friday!!
Dana Overall
Richmond, KY
http://rvflying.tripod.com
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for AN929-4D cap |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Richard V. Reynolds" <rvreynolds@macs.net>
Go to your local air-conditioning /heating supply house. (Home Depot may have
them also).They have brass caps with little O-rings inside that seal verrrrry
nicely.
Richard Reynolds, Norfolk, VA, RV-6A, doing paper work because its now
KORF 241351Z 35013G18KT 10SM FEW037 M06/M14 A3026 RMK AO2 PRESRR SLP246
T10611139
Camille Hawthorne wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Camille Hawthorne" <cammie@sunvalley.net>
>
> I'm looking for a AN929-4D cap to use to close off my fuel vent while
> pressure testing my fuel tank. Anyone out there willing to part with one? I
> know that ACS has them, but the shipping charge is way more than the value
> thanks
> Cammie
>
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| Subject: | KY, OH, TN get together |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
For those of you outside the KY area, please delete and I apoligize
beforehand for using the RV list. It's easier to ask for forgivness than
ask for permission:-) Flight time as a reference, I can be in Huntsville,
AL in a little over an hour in my Bonanza.
I'm opening my shop, office and den up for anyone in the area to stop by
three weeks from tomorrow, Feb. 15th., for a little winter RV get together.
My house is two hours from the TN line and 2 hours from the OH line about 10
minutes off I-75.
Since there are no flyins this time of year, I'll lay my project out for
inspection/insult/ whatever to be able to meet some of the "local" RV
builders and fliers. Just don't find that one rivet I didn't use a guage
on........come to think of it, there might be two. I know Daniel, who cut
his lightening holes yesterday, Jim in lex builder of an 8, Jim Sears a 6
flyer but would like to get to know others in the area.
I'll provide the "refreshments" as long as you provide a driver:-) For
those wanting to fly in, the nearest airport is I39 Madison Co. I'll leave
a car and keys at the airport. You will have access to my shop, office and
den. We will be telling lies, drinking spirits.....I mean having spirit,
playing pool, ice skating on the pool or playing lawn darts with the
icicles.
Seriously, I figure this is a good way to keep the winter juices flowing and
put some faces with names off this list. Mapquest puts my house two houses
away but will get you here. I guess I could take the flag down and lean a
HS by the front door, that should point out the right house. Remember, do
something good on Friday 14th......V-day, so the little lady will let you
come to Richmond, KY on the 15th.
Dana Overall
1036 Countryside Drive
Richmond, KY
859 369-3156 or cell 859 625-2844
http://rvflying.tripod.com
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: This insurance stuff. |
--> RV-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
I happen to also agree that JT has only added to the list when insurance
questions are posted. I am a customer of his and I appreciate him trying to
keep me educated.
Len Leggette, RV-8A
Greensboro, N.C. N910LL
51 hours
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| Subject: | Re: KY, OH, TN get together |
--> RV-List message posted by: RGray67968@aol.com
In a message dated 1/24/03 6:17:56 AM Pacific Standard Time,
bo124rs@hotmail.com writes:
> I'm opening my shop, office and den up for anyone in the area to stop by
> three weeks from tomorrow, Feb. 15th., for a little winter RV get together.
>
> My house is two hours from the TN line and 2 hours from the OH line about
> 10
> minutes off I-75
Love to come Dana, but the Mid Atlantic group is having their formation
clinic the same day at GED (Sussex, Delaware). Thanks for the invite!!
Rick Gray RV6 w/132 hrs. (Ohio) at the Buffalo Farm - leaving for the TEAM RV
formation clinic in about an hour or so.
do not archive - please
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| Subject: | Long Lok self sealing screws |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Scott Kuebler" <skuebler@cannondesign.com>
A while back (September) there was a gentleman who was nice enough to offer to
help me find a supplier for Long Lok fasteners. I made the mistake of procrastinating
in replying to him and have since lost his name and email.
Now that I am back to working on my plane I am once again trying to find these
screws. If the person is still out there could you email me back off-list and
I can get you the part numbers and quantities.
Thank you,
Scott Kuebler
Buffalo, NY
RV-6a (wings)
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--> RV-List message posted by: lm4@juno.com
I use a Sears $30.00 air drill and it does the job just fine.
Larry Mac Donald
Rochester N.Y.
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On Thu, 23 Jan 2003 19:06:26 -0800 "Will & Lynda Allen"
<linenwool@attbi.com> writes:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Will & Lynda Allen"
> <linenwool@attbi.com>
>
> Well so much for the air drill I picked up at Boeing Surplus, it
> didn't even
> make it through the HS! I'm going to buy new this time but maybe I
> can
> still get away with something not too expensive. Is anyone using
> the "under
> $100" air drills available at Browns or Cleveland and finding them
> to do the
> job just fine or do I really have to fork out a couple hundred for
> an air
> drill? Also, so that I don't have to stop working while waiting for
> a new
> drill, has anyone used their Makita for any work?
>
> -Will Allen
> North Bend, Wa
> RV8 emp
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Services for Carroll Bird |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Hobby Stevens" <rayco@sbcglobal.net>
For those that might have an interest -
Services for Carroll Bird will be tomorrow, Saturday, at 2pm at the Buffalo Gap
Cemetery.
This cemetery is a small country cemetery about 20 miles from Abilene, but only
about a mile from Carroll's house back up in the hills where he stick built his
RV4.
If anyone wants to fly in for the services and needs transportation from the airport
to the services and back, email me off list and I will arrange transportation
for all that need it.
We here in Chapter 471 will miss Carroll.
Hobby Stevens
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--> RV-List message posted by: P M Condon <pcondon@mitre.org>
Here is a good piece of air drill advice. Use the lightweight air hose
extension from Avery and use two air drills, one chucked up with a #30,
the other drill chucked up with a #40. Believe me this has save lots of
time and bother. No routing around for chuck keys, drill bits and when
drilling multiple holes, or up drilling to the larger drill bit,
swapping the quick disconnect takes seconds. I used colored tape on the
drill body for quick identification. The light weight hose works great
and keeps the tension from the real air hose from fighting with you.
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business journal <phoenix@bizjournals.com>, CHANNEL 3 <scott@azfamily.com>,
Chuck Mulloy <cdmbam@yahoo.com>, drudge <drudge@drudgereport.com>,
George W Bush <president@whitehouse.gov>,
Joe Norris EAA Information <jnorris@eaa.org>,
Mariann <info@arizonaaviation.com>, Mike DiFrisco <mdifrisco@eaa.org>,
Paul Bessing kitlog <pbesing@yahoo.com>,
to send to Jodel Group <jodel@yahoogroups.com>,
ZENITH LIST <zenith-list@matronics.com>,
"rv-list@matronics.com" <rv-list@matronics.com>,
"avionics-list@matronics.com" <avionics-list@matronics.com>
| Subject: | Be Aware FAA can pull anyones license without recourse.. SECURITY |
--> RV-List message posted by: Hal Rozema <hartist1@cox.net>
You're Grounded/Suspended: TSA Trumps FAA
TSA Takes Over Issuance/Maintenance of Certificates, in New NPRM
In the Federal Register Friday, 01.24.2003, you'll be able to see that
you can be
knocked out of the air -- just like that -- if the TSA alleges that you
pose
a 'security risk.' Pilots will be immediately grounded; mechanics, DERs
--
everybody who holds a certificate of any kind from the FAA -- can be
immediately out of a job.
The TSA will notify you that you are considered a 'security risk.' It
will
notify the FAA; and the FAA will immediately suspend your ticket(s),
pending
your 'appeal.'
You will then have to convince the TSA (which already declared you a
'security risk') that you are not a 'security risk,' without your
knowing
why they think you are such a risk. Then, when the TSA issues its final
ruling, the FAA will revoke your papers.
We wanted some confirmation on this, and called the TSA. Chris Rhatigan,
in
the press office there, said, "You may have to talk to the FAA on that."
We read her a part of the summary, which says, "This final rule
expressly
makes a person ineligible to hold FAA-issued airman certificates if the
Transportation Security Administration notifies the FAA in writing that
the
person poses a security threat."
As we continued reading, and noted that the TSA was calling the shots,
she
said, "Hold on a second." She returned, and said, "This [determination
that
you're a security threat] comes from an intelligence database." OK --
so,
how do we know how big a threat, or how it's determined that one even is
such a threat? "We don't tell people how to get on to that database,"
she
said. In other words, if you're denied your certificate, you won't be
able
to find out why -- just that someone, somewhere, thinks you're a
'security
risk.'
Ms Rhatigan informed us that everything would be spelled out in the
NPRM,
and that we'd have to wait until Friday, to see what was getting
published
in the Federal Register. Well, folks the law goes into effect Friday. No
NPRM. No discussion. Decree. Tough.
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| Subject: | Re: Electroluminescent Lighting |
--> RV-List message posted by: Hal Rozema <hartist1@cox.net>
tRY http://www.aircraftextras.com/
Mark Phillips wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Mark Phillips <ripsteel@edge.net>
>
> About 2 or 3 months ago there was a brief discussion on EL lighting with
> some links- I can not find the one I need in the archives, (I found the
> "Being Seen" site). This was for the non-aviation sheet and strip
> lighting. Would appreciate any links- Thanks!
>
> Mark Phillips - do not archive -
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Neil McLeod" <bedrock@theriver.com>
I have a cheap air drill and 2 cordless drills, 2 corded electric drills and
1 Sioux. I use them all and they all have their place but my favorite for
the majority of the drilling is the Sioux. It's smaller, lighter, quieter
and has a much more sensitive trigger, same for their rivet gun. I would buy
it again.
Neil McLeod
-7 QB (wiring and canopy)
----- Original Message -----
From: <JDaniel343@aol.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Air drills
> --> RV-List message posted by: JDaniel343@aol.com
>
> Will, do yourself a favor an purchase a 1/4" Sioux air drill, 3600 rpm
model.
> Cleavland sells them as do others. There are over 18,000 holes you will
have
> to drill and this light drill with great trigger control is a must in my
> opinion. This will probably be the best tool for the money. You can use
> cheaper tools, but your probably going to be building for a long time. Do
> yourself a favor.
> John Danielson
> RV-6 110 hrs.
>
>
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| Subject: | Be Aware FAA can pull anyones license without recourse.. |
SECURITY
--> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
Well next thing you know, The Homeland Security Dept. will declare our
planes a threat to homeland security and turn them all into soda cans. God
help America, "Big Brother" is here, and he's suspending the constitution
(oh, but strictly for "security reasons" of course)! I feel so safe &
secure now.
----- Original Message -----
From: Hal Rozema <hartist1@cox.net>
business journal <phoenix@bizjournals.com>; CHANNEL 3 <scott@azfamily.com>;
Chuck Mulloy <cdmbam@yahoo.com>; drudge <drudge@drudgereport.com>; George W
Bush <president@whitehouse.gov>; Joe Norris EAA Information
<jnorris@eaa.org>; Mariann <info@arizonaaviation.com>; Mike DiFrisco
<mdifrisco@eaa.org>; Paul Bessing kitlog <pbesing@yahoo.com>; to send to
Jodel Group <jodel@yahoogroups.com>; ZENITH LIST
<zenith-list@matronics.com>; <rv-list@matronics.com>;
<avionics-list@matronics.com>
Subject: RV-List: Be Aware FAA can pull anyones license without recourse..
SECURITY
> --> RV-List message posted by: Hal Rozema <hartist1@cox.net>
>
>
> You're Grounded/Suspended: TSA Trumps FAA
> TSA Takes Over Issuance/Maintenance of Certificates, in New NPRM
>
> In the Federal Register Friday, 01.24.2003, you'll be able to see that
> you can be
> knocked out of the air -- just like that -- if the TSA alleges that you
> pose
> a 'security risk.' Pilots will be immediately grounded; mechanics, DERs
> --
> everybody who holds a certificate of any kind from the FAA -- can be
> immediately out of a job.
>
> The TSA will notify you that you are considered a 'security risk.' It
> will
> notify the FAA; and the FAA will immediately suspend your ticket(s),
> pending
> your 'appeal.'
>
> You will then have to convince the TSA (which already declared you a
> 'security risk') that you are not a 'security risk,' without your
> knowing
> why they think you are such a risk. Then, when the TSA issues its final
> ruling, the FAA will revoke your papers.
>
> We wanted some confirmation on this, and called the TSA. Chris Rhatigan,
> in
> the press office there, said, "You may have to talk to the FAA on that."
>
> We read her a part of the summary, which says, "This final rule
> expressly
> makes a person ineligible to hold FAA-issued airman certificates if the
> Transportation Security Administration notifies the FAA in writing that
> the
> person poses a security threat."
>
> As we continued reading, and noted that the TSA was calling the shots,
> she
> said, "Hold on a second." She returned, and said, "This [determination
> that
> you're a security threat] comes from an intelligence database." OK --
> so,
> how do we know how big a threat, or how it's determined that one even is
>
> such a threat? "We don't tell people how to get on to that database,"
> she
> said. In other words, if you're denied your certificate, you won't be
> able
> to find out why -- just that someone, somewhere, thinks you're a
> 'security
> risk.'
>
> Ms Rhatigan informed us that everything would be spelled out in the
> NPRM,
> and that we'd have to wait until Friday, to see what was getting
> published
> in the Federal Register. Well, folks the law goes into effect Friday. No
>
> NPRM. No discussion. Decree. Tough.
>
>
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| Subject: | Fun Friday Ramblings |
--> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
Hey Scott... you told me "ALL RV-4 Pilots" had to paint these big red "S"'s
on our chest... now how am I gonna get this off?
----- Original Message -----
From: Dana Overall <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
Subject: RV-List: Fun Friday Ramblings
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
>
> >From: kempthornes <kempthornes@earthlink.net>
> >At 07:53 PM 1/23/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> > >--> RV-List message posted by: Miller Robert <rmiller3@earthlink.net>
> >
> >You are wrong! I, for one, have benefited from this discussion.
> >Use your delete key.
> >
> >
> >K. H. (Hal) Kempthorne
>
> JT, I hate chiming in on things like this but I, and apparently many,
> appreciate your insight into this discussion. It is related to RVs, as
> opposed to what some may think. I may not agree with insurance but it is
a
> nessesary evil.
>
> BTW gang, my Bonanza insurance is right at what we are paying for RV
> insurance and that is based on the low high performance/complex time my
> partner has. The quotes, if you covered (sorry JT:-) seem reasonable.
>
> OH, while I'm stirring stink...............I'll compare a nosewheel to the
> face mask on a football helmet.........It's an improvement on something
> outdated/old/ingrained/traditional (what else can I stir with). All you
> nosedragger guys, properly landing a tailwheel is no for difficult than
> properly landing a nosewheel, the key word is properly. Besides, they
don't
> paint a red S on the chest of the tailwheel gang.
>
> All in fun gang, remember it is Fun Friday!!
>
>
> Dana Overall
> Richmond, KY
> http://rvflying.tripod.com
> do not archive
>
>
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"rv8list@yahoogroups.com" <rv8list@yahoogroups.com>
| Subject: | Hours for wiring... |
--> RV-List message posted by: Bill VonDane <n8wv@vondane.com>
Anyone out there keep track of exactly how long (how many hours) it took them to
wire their RV?
Thanks!
-Bill VonDane
RV-8A ~ 86.5 hrs
www.vondane.com
do not archive
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| Subject: | Is Lightspeed Worth It? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Rob Miller <rmill2000@yahoo.com>
Hi guys
To all of you flying that have upgraded to the Lightspeed Ignition: Would
you do it again? Is it worth the money, the time, and effort to replace
the right mag?
Thinking hard about this one.
Rob Miller
-8 N262RM "Bad Cat" 40 hrs.
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Rick Galati" <rick07x@earthlink.net>
"Will Lynda Allen" linenwool@attbi.com
Well
so much for the air drill I picked up at Boeing Surplus, it didn't even
make
it through the HS! I'm going to buy new this time but maybe I can
still
get away with something not too expensive. Is anyone using the
"under
$100" air drills available at Browns or Cleveland and finding them to
do the
job just fine or do I really have to fork out a couple hundred for an
air
drill? Also, so that I don't have to stop working while waiting for
a new
drill, has anyone used their Makita for any work?
-Will
Allen
North Bend, Wa
RV8 emp
Will,
I have used air drills to build the taxpayers airplanes all my work
life. I have a perfectly good Sioux. In the end,
when I need to use a pistol grip hand drill, I reach for and use my 14.4V
DeWalt cordless. With its keyless chuck it's quick, variable speed,
unencumbered, high torque and gives my compressor a rest. For holes
that require extra precision, I use my drill press. For restricted access
holes I use my 45 degree (preferred), or 90 degree drill motor. My
experience has been that the Sioux pistol grip air drill is rarely used on
my project.
Rick Galati
RV-6A FWF
--- Rick Galati
--- rick07x@earthlink.net
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| Subject: | Airflow Performance bypass valve cabling question |
--> RV-List message posted by: "John Brick" <jbrick@wolfenet.com>
Let's hear the long story, Jim. Bart installed the purge valve on my O-360
as you describe yours (right side with lever in vertical plane). According
to the airflow performance manual, this is typical for RV-4's and Lancair's.
My purge valve moves clockwise to shutoff. Seems logical to set the control
cable for Push-Run and Pull-off. Bringing the control cable up from below
between cyls might work...is that a feasible option?
John Brick
Graham, WA
RV-4
N474JB
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Norman, Jim
Subject: RE: RV-List: Airflow Performance bypass valve cabling question
--> RV-List message posted by: "Norman, Jim" <jnorman@intermapsystems.com>
Please note... there are several versions of this valve out there. Mine is
on the right side of the engine, and the valve sits 90 degrees to what I'm
seeing in photos. The reason that there is a different version is so that us
guys with very tight fitting plenums can fit it under the plenum. Thus mine
sits with the arm swinging in a plane perpindicular to the floor rather than
parallel to it like in the two photos I've seen attached to this string.
This posed a VERY major problem. To make a long story short... sufice it to
say that people with a plenum have to really think about this purge valve
and how to get it hooked up.
jim
Tampa
-----Original Message-----
From: Don Mack [mailto:don@dmack.net]
Subject: RE: RV-List: Airflow Performance bypass valve cabling question
--> RV-List message posted by: "Don Mack" <don@dmack.net>
It can be moved from about the 1 to 7 o'clock positions. The mounting
bracket is on the left the blocks it from swinging to the other side.
I have a picture on my site. It is a view from
http://www.dmack.net/imagepages/fueldivider5.html
Don
--> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@usjet.net>
> The arm can be repositioned, within limits, right?
> Alex Peterson
> Maple Grove, MN
> RV6-A N66AP 251 hours
> www.usfamily.net/web/alexpeterson
>> Thanks for the information Alex. My arm and valve are on the
>> right side. The arm swings from about 2-5 o'clock position 2,
>> being ICO. I was thinking I could bring the cable in from the
>> left and around the front. Not the best choice but it would work.
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Elsa & Henry" <elsa-henry@darlor-watch.com>
Well, back in 1995, I bought an air drill, drove my air compressor
crazy,(and me too) and thinking of my electricity bill, consuming 2 KW for
every few holes, I shelved it! I ended up using my trusty old Bosh 1/2"
drill. It's made in Switzerland and runs up to 5000 RPM, is beautifully
balanced, so no noticeable vibration at that speed.
I have my duty #40 and #30 split-point drills on 6" brass extension rods,
1/4" dia. and the drill bits are held in place in the bores with Krazy Glue
(Super Glue). Never had one skid on me! In fact, I never bought those
expensive long "aviation" drills. I put extensions, long and short, on many
other drills including short stubbies threaded 1/4-28 so they could be used
in my right-angle drive. The beauty of having the drills on the extensions
is that it is easier to "perpendicularize" the drill to the surface being
drilled and guide into position. Another thing, when the drill gets dull, I
heat the extension end with a propane torch and the drill comes out easily
and a new one gets popped in easily with a drop of the glue. Can't do that
with aviation drills, unless you are an expert on sharpening split-points!
Later I bought a 9.6V Makita cordless which was used a lot.
Cheers!!-------Henry Hore
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| Subject: | Hours for wiring... |
--> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
Bill,
It's a simple mathematical equation... you take the total length of
each individual wire (or clusters there of) and multiple that by the number
of connecting terminals, then divide by the number of switches, subtract the
total number of shorts you caused from the total number of fuses or circuit
breakers you now discovered you better install, then add the total number of
hours you have lost sleep worrying about whether you accidentally cross
wired something/anything, then take the remainder and square it by the
actual number of times you've bit your lip, cussed out loud (soft grumblings
don't count), pulled out your now graying hair, or watched sparks (and/or
smoke) come from the components you're installing/testing. And viola'
see "simple"
Chuck
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill VonDane <n8wv@vondane.com>
Subject: RV-List: Hours for wiring...
> --> RV-List message posted by: Bill VonDane <n8wv@vondane.com>
>
> Anyone out there keep track of exactly how long (how many hours) it took
them to
> wire their RV?
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Bill VonDane
> RV-8A ~ 86.5 hrs
> www.vondane.com
>
> do not archive
>
>
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"'rv-list@matronics.com'" <rv-list@matronics.com>
| Subject: | Experimental Panel Builder |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Nightingale Michael" <NightingaleMichaelV@JohnDeere.com>
What happened to the Experimental Panel builder, it's GONE!
Mike
RV-9A 90259
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| Subject: | Re: Hours for wiring... |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Pat Hatch" <pat_hatch@msn.com>
Bill,
I added up my wiring time on the -6: 253.6 hours, but this is going to vary
widely depending on avionics, I think.
Pat Hatch
RV-4, N17PH, 700 hrs
O-320, Hartzell C/S
RV-6, N44PH, 40 hrs
O-360, Hartzell C/S
Vero Beach, FL
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill VonDane" <n8wv@vondane.com>
Subject: RV-List: Hours for wiring...
> --> RV-List message posted by: Bill VonDane <n8wv@vondane.com>
>
> Anyone out there keep track of exactly how long (how many hours) it took
them to
> wire their RV?
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Bill VonDane
> RV-8A ~ 86.5 hrs
> www.vondane.com
>
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Is Lightspeed Worth It? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Schilling Karl <Karl.Schilling@ssfhs.org>
I have 200 hrs on mine now. About a 100 before I added it. I picked up 25
rpm static and depending on what alt. you cruise at it is worth 1 to 1 1/2
gals per hour. Starts much eaiser. I love mine. Karl in Indy RV-8 0320
160 hp. 300 total hours
-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Miller [mailto:rmill2000@yahoo.com]
Subject: RV-List: Is Lightspeed Worth It?
--> RV-List message posted by: Rob Miller <rmill2000@yahoo.com>
Hi guys
To all of you flying that have upgraded to the Lightspeed Ignition: Would
you do it again? Is it worth the money, the time, and effort to replace
the right mag?
Thinking hard about this one.
Rob Miller
-8 N262RM "Bad Cat" 40 hrs.
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| Subject: | Threadlocker Fluid |
--> RV-List message posted by: cecilth@juno.com
Does anyone know of a source for a generic fluid like threadlocker?
Maybe for $7 a pint instead of $7 for a dab called .08 oz.?
If not, maybe I should give them some competition by selling something
like that myself.
Really tho, I feel like I've been held up when I shell out so much for so
little. Maybe I'm missing something here. I feel like it.
Cecil
RV6A
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| Subject: | Re: Is Lightspeed Worth It? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dave von Linsowe" <davevon@tir.com>
In the same vein, how about Lightspeed compared to Electroair?
I see this as a must do thing to get the performance out of the airplane.
Thanks,
Dave
RV-6
The need for Speed --->
> Hi guys
>
> To all of you flying that have upgraded to the Lightspeed Ignition: Would
> you do it again? Is it worth the money, the time, and effort to replace
> the right mag?
>
> Thinking hard about this one.
>
> Rob Miller
> -8 N262RM "Bad Cat" 40 hrs.
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| Subject: | Re: Be Aware FAA can pull anyones license without recourse.. |
SECURITY
--> RV-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
I was able to make an electronic comment on the NPRM 2003-14293. I thought
maybe some of the rest of you might have a need to do this at some time so
here are my instructions and suggestions.
1. Start at http://www.archives.gov/federal_register/index.html
Here is where you can navigate to the register and find the notices for your
comments.
I found that I wanted to comment on 2003-14293 Ineligibility for an Airman
Certificate Based on Security Grounds
2. I then went to: http://dms.dot.gov
and clicked on the "comment/submissions" tab. You can also do a search at
this point.
3. I clicked continue on the next page.
4. After entering the docket number, it took me to the comment page. It is
probably best to enter in your personal data but it doesn't not seem to be
required.
5.Enter you comment in the box and click on submit. That's all.
6. You can copy and paste in your comments so I composed and Spell Checked
it in Outlook Express but you could do the same copy and paste from a word
processor. I need this to make me look intelligent.
Cy Galley
Editor, EAA Safety Programs
cgalley@qcbc.org or experimenter@eaa.org
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hal Rozema" <hartist1@cox.net>
"business journal" <phoenix@bizjournals.com>; "CHANNEL 3"
<scott@azfamily.com>; "Chuck Mulloy" <cdmbam@yahoo.com>; "drudge"
<drudge@drudgereport.com>; "George W Bush" <president@whitehouse.gov>; "Joe
Norris EAA Information" <jnorris@eaa.org>; "Mariann"
<info@arizonaaviation.com>; "Mike DiFrisco" <mdifrisco@eaa.org>; "Paul
Bessing kitlog" <pbesing@yahoo.com>; "to send to Jodel Group"
<jodel@yahoogroups.com>; "ZENITH LIST" <zenith-list@matronics.com>;
<rv-list@matronics.com>; <avionics-list@matronics.com>
Subject: RV-List: Be Aware FAA can pull anyones license without recourse..
SECURITY
> --> RV-List message posted by: Hal Rozema <hartist1@cox.net>
>
>
> You're Grounded/Suspended: TSA Trumps FAA
> TSA Takes Over Issuance/Maintenance of Certificates, in New NPRM
>
> In the Federal Register Friday, 01.24.2003, you'll be able to see that
> you can be
> knocked out of the air -- just like that -- if the TSA alleges that you
> pose
> a 'security risk.' Pilots will be immediately grounded; mechanics, DERs
> --
> everybody who holds a certificate of any kind from the FAA -- can be
> immediately out of a job.
>
> The TSA will notify you that you are considered a 'security risk.' It
> will
> notify the FAA; and the FAA will immediately suspend your ticket(s),
> pending
> your 'appeal.'
>
> You will then have to convince the TSA (which already declared you a
> 'security risk') that you are not a 'security risk,' without your
> knowing
> why they think you are such a risk. Then, when the TSA issues its final
> ruling, the FAA will revoke your papers.
>
> We wanted some confirmation on this, and called the TSA. Chris Rhatigan,
> in
> the press office there, said, "You may have to talk to the FAA on that."
>
> We read her a part of the summary, which says, "This final rule
> expressly
> makes a person ineligible to hold FAA-issued airman certificates if the
> Transportation Security Administration notifies the FAA in writing that
> the
> person poses a security threat."
>
> As we continued reading, and noted that the TSA was calling the shots,
> she
> said, "Hold on a second." She returned, and said, "This [determination
> that
> you're a security threat] comes from an intelligence database." OK --
> so,
> how do we know how big a threat, or how it's determined that one even is
>
> such a threat? "We don't tell people how to get on to that database,"
> she
> said. In other words, if you're denied your certificate, you won't be
> able
> to find out why -- just that someone, somewhere, thinks you're a
> 'security
> risk.'
>
> Ms Rhatigan informed us that everything would be spelled out in the
> NPRM,
> and that we'd have to wait until Friday, to see what was getting
> published
> in the Federal Register. Well, folks the law goes into effect Friday. No
>
> NPRM. No discussion. Decree. Tough.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Off-List reply re: Insurance |
--> RV-List message posted by: JRWillJR@aol.com
In a message dated 1/23/2003 3:23:52 PM Central Standard Time, jhelms@i1.net
writes:
> You have touched upon a very important issue.... All I have to say is that I
> am amazed that the companies are willing to write homebuilts at all because
> of what you just posted. And I think you all should be glad they do. It
> would be very easy for them to say "chuck it"
Surely you understand that the manufacturer, me, the person you call the
assembler, designs for the most part the fuel system, the electrical system,
the climate control system, the lighting system, designs the panel, designs
the engine controls, is completely free to modify the airframe to accommodate
those systems and do anything else he/she pleases as they please. I as the
manufacture select, build, procure all ancillary equipment. I determine it's
airworthiness and when the flight test period is complete, > I < make a legal
statement in the logbook that says this aircraft is controllable through
normal maneuvers and is safe to fly, etc., and bla bla.
Since at this point it appears virtually every provider of EXPERIMENTAL
insurance has been contacted by you and told they are insuring EXPERIMENTAL
airplanes I frankly at this point am amazed that anyone would take this
thread serious.
How about let's end this thread before the President is contacted, he is
kinda busy now with other things. Do Not Archive. JR
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| Subject: | Re: Is Lightspeed Worth It? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright" <kyle.boatright@adelphia.net>
Check the Archives. Lots of info there on both systems, but no substantive
data as to which system is better. The truth is that there are so few
people who have used both systems that the data just isn't there to evaluate
them against each other.
KB
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave von Linsowe" <davevon@tir.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Is Lightspeed Worth It?
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dave von Linsowe" <davevon@tir.com>
>
> In the same vein, how about Lightspeed compared to Electroair?
>
> I see this as a must do thing to get the performance out of the airplane.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dave
> RV-6
> The need for Speed --->
>
> > Hi guys
> >
> > To all of you flying that have upgraded to the Lightspeed Ignition:
Would
> > you do it again? Is it worth the money, the time, and effort to replace
> > the right mag?
> >
> > Thinking hard about this one.
> >
> > Rob Miller
> > -8 N262RM "Bad Cat" 40 hrs.
>
>
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| Subject: | Airflow Performance bypass valve cabling question |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Norman, Jim" <jnorman@intermapsystems.com>
SNIP--> RV-List message posted by: "John Brick" <jbrick@wolfenet.com>
Let's hear the long story, Jim. Bart installed the purge valve on my O-360
as you describe yours (right side with lever in vertical plane). According
to the airflow performance manual, this is typical for RV-4's and Lancair's.
My purge valve moves clockwise to shutoff. Seems logical to set the control
cable for Push-Run and Pull-off. Bringing the control cable up from below
between cyls might work...is that a feasible option?
John Brick
Graham, WA
RV-4
N474JB
SNIP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.
My problem was with the plenum. With the orientation we are discussing here,
the cable has to come from the left side of the engine (so control knob in
is 'run' position). The position of the valve, and the height of the center
of the engine dictate how high the cable has to be as it crosses over the
center portion of the engine... and the plenum is very close here. I had to
fabricate 2 brackets to hold the cable; both of which are bolted to the
center through-bolts of the crankcase halves. I could not bring the cable
up from below as suggested by John because it just didn't line up correctly
and would bind. One big caveat, however... if I had used the very simple
cable (the kind that we don't use much on airplanes except for our heater
cable), then none of this would have been an issue. Its the fact that the
'aircraft grade' cables have a rigid section for the last 10 inches or so
that prohibit many potential innovative solutions.
jim
Tampa
6A 17 hours!
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| Subject: | Be Aware FAA can pull anyones license without recourse.. |
SECURITY
--> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
Thanks Cy, great idea.
Chuck
yes "ARCHIVE"
----- Original Message -----
From: Cy Galley <cgalley@qcbc.org>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Be Aware FAA can pull anyones license without
recourse.. SECURITY
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
>
> I was able to make an electronic comment on the NPRM 2003-14293. I
thought
> maybe some of the rest of you might have a need to do this at some time so
> here are my instructions and suggestions.
> 1. Start at http://www.archives.gov/federal_register/index.html
> Here is where you can navigate to the register and find the notices for
your
> comments.
> I found that I wanted to comment on 2003-14293 Ineligibility for an Airman
> Certificate Based on Security Grounds
> 2. I then went to: http://dms.dot.gov
> and clicked on the "comment/submissions" tab. You can also do a search at
> this point.
> 3. I clicked continue on the next page.
> 4. After entering the docket number, it took me to the comment page. It is
> probably best to enter in your personal data but it doesn't not seem to be
> required.
> 5.Enter you comment in the box and click on submit. That's all.
> 6. You can copy and paste in your comments so I composed and Spell Checked
> it in Outlook Express but you could do the same copy and paste from a word
> processor. I need this to make me look intelligent.
>
> Cy Galley
> Editor, EAA Safety Programs
> cgalley@qcbc.org or experimenter@eaa.org
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hal Rozema" <hartist1@cox.net>
> To: "Geoff" <geoff@hoffmans.net>; "Bill O'Reilly" <oreilly@foxnews.com>;
> "business journal" <phoenix@bizjournals.com>; "CHANNEL 3"
> <scott@azfamily.com>; "Chuck Mulloy" <cdmbam@yahoo.com>; "drudge"
> <drudge@drudgereport.com>; "George W Bush" <president@whitehouse.gov>;
"Joe
> Norris EAA Information" <jnorris@eaa.org>; "Mariann"
> <info@arizonaaviation.com>; "Mike DiFrisco" <mdifrisco@eaa.org>; "Paul
> Bessing kitlog" <pbesing@yahoo.com>; "to send to Jodel Group"
> <jodel@yahoogroups.com>; "ZENITH LIST" <zenith-list@matronics.com>;
> <rv-list@matronics.com>; <avionics-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV-List: Be Aware FAA can pull anyones license without recourse..
> SECURITY
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: Hal Rozema <hartist1@cox.net>
> >
> >
> > You're Grounded/Suspended: TSA Trumps FAA
> > TSA Takes Over Issuance/Maintenance of Certificates, in New NPRM
> >
> > In the Federal Register Friday, 01.24.2003, you'll be able to see that
> > you can be
> > knocked out of the air -- just like that -- if the TSA alleges that you
> > pose
> > a 'security risk.' Pilots will be immediately grounded; mechanics, DERs
> > --
> > everybody who holds a certificate of any kind from the FAA -- can be
> > immediately out of a job.
> >
> > The TSA will notify you that you are considered a 'security risk.' It
> > will
> > notify the FAA; and the FAA will immediately suspend your ticket(s),
> > pending
> > your 'appeal.'
> >
> > You will then have to convince the TSA (which already declared you a
> > 'security risk') that you are not a 'security risk,' without your
> > knowing
> > why they think you are such a risk. Then, when the TSA issues its final
> > ruling, the FAA will revoke your papers.
> >
> > We wanted some confirmation on this, and called the TSA. Chris Rhatigan,
> > in
> > the press office there, said, "You may have to talk to the FAA on that."
> >
> > We read her a part of the summary, which says, "This final rule
> > expressly
> > makes a person ineligible to hold FAA-issued airman certificates if the
> > Transportation Security Administration notifies the FAA in writing that
> > the
> > person poses a security threat."
> >
> > As we continued reading, and noted that the TSA was calling the shots,
> > she
> > said, "Hold on a second." She returned, and said, "This [determination
> > that
> > you're a security threat] comes from an intelligence database." OK --
> > so,
> > how do we know how big a threat, or how it's determined that one even is
> >
> > such a threat? "We don't tell people how to get on to that database,"
> > she
> > said. In other words, if you're denied your certificate, you won't be
> > able
> > to find out why -- just that someone, somewhere, thinks you're a
> > 'security
> > risk.'
> >
> > Ms Rhatigan informed us that everything would be spelled out in the
> > NPRM,
> > and that we'd have to wait until Friday, to see what was getting
> > published
> > in the Federal Register. Well, folks the law goes into effect Friday. No
> >
> > NPRM. No discussion. Decree. Tough.
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Is Lightspeed Worth It? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "David Burton" <dburton@nwlink.com>
Take a look at Randy's web page discussing this for a data point or two...
http://www.rv-8.com/Prop.htm
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob Miller" <rmill2000@yahoo.com>
Subject: RV-List: Is Lightspeed Worth It?
> --> RV-List message posted by: Rob Miller <rmill2000@yahoo.com>
>
> Hi guys
>
> To all of you flying that have upgraded to the Lightspeed Ignition: Would
> you do it again? Is it worth the money, the time, and effort to replace
> the right mag?
>
> Thinking hard about this one.
>
> Rob Miller
> -8 N262RM "Bad Cat" 40 hrs.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Experimental Panel Builder |
--> RV-List message posted by: Bill VonDane <n8wv@vondane.com>
Sorry about that... I am moving it to a new server... Should be back today...
On that same note... I have not been able to update the site for a while due to
a problem with the code... I am working on a new version that will solve the
problem... Stay tuned...
-Bill
Quoting Nightingale Michael <NightingaleMichaelV@JohnDeere.com>:
--> RV-List message posted by: "Nightingale Michael"
<NightingaleMichaelV@JohnDeere.com>
What happened to the Experimental Panel builder, it's GONE!
Mike
RV-9A 90259
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| Subject: | Re: Hours for wiring... |
--> RV-List message posted by: Knicholas2@aol.com
I have over 200 hours in wiring so far and it never seems to end.......
I am sick of wiring...
Kim Nicholas
RV9A FWF etc.
Seattle
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| Subject: | Re: Services for Carroll Bird |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com>
What a GREAT Guy!!!!
I wish I could be there, I will be doing acro overhead in spirit. He will be
too!
So long Carroll, have a good trip.
Tailwinds
Doug Rozendaal
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Hobby Stevens" <rayco@sbcglobal.net>
>
> For those that might have an interest -
> Services for Carroll Bird will be tomorrow, Saturday, at 2pm at the
Buffalo Gap Cemetery.
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| Subject: | Re: Long Lok self sealing screws |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tom F Gastrich" <gastrich@mtaonline.net>
Try East Coast Aviation Supplies
1-800-330-3975 www.ecasinc.com They have an online catalog and are distributors
of quality aerospace hardware and electrical components. Tom Gastrich A&P-IA
RV-8 wings
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Kuebler
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 5:25 AM
Subject: RV-List: Long Lok self sealing screws
--> RV-List message posted by: "Scott Kuebler" <skuebler@cannondesign.com>
A while back (September) there was a gentleman who was nice enough to offer to
help me find a supplier for Long Lok fasteners. I made the mistake of procrastinating
in replying to him and have since lost his name and email.
Now that I am back to working on my plane I am once again trying to find these
screws. If the person is still out there could you email me back off-list and
I can get you the part numbers and quantities.
Thank you,
Scott Kuebler
Buffalo, NY
RV-6a (wings)
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Experimental Panel Builder |
--> RV-List message posted by: Bill VonDane <n8wv@vondane.com>
www.epanelbuilder.com is back up...
I found a new XML editor and thought I would see if it would allow me to make
some updates, and it did...
I just added the Garmin GPSMAP 196...
I will see about getting some other new stuff added as well...
If you would like to see something that is not currently there, please follow
this link: http://epanelbuilder.com/
-Bill VonDane
RV-8A ~ 86 hrs
www.vondane.com
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| Subject: | Re: Services for Carroll Bird |
--> RV-List message posted by: "lucky macy" <luckymacy@hotmail.com>
Where's the RV formation folks when you need them? Looks like a RV missing
man formation is called for????
>From: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com>
>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: RV-List: Services for Carroll Bird
>Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 12:42:31 -0600
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com>
>
>What a GREAT Guy!!!!
>
>I wish I could be there, I will be doing acro overhead in spirit. He will
>be
>too!
>
>So long Carroll, have a good trip.
>
>Tailwinds
>Doug Rozendaal
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Hobby Stevens" <rayco@sbcglobal.net>
> >
> > For those that might have an interest -
> > Services for Carroll Bird will be tomorrow, Saturday, at 2pm at the
>Buffalo Gap Cemetery.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Experimental Panel Builder |
--> RV-List message posted by: Chris <chrisw3@cox.net>
When are you going to get a version that works on Netscape, or any other web browser
for that matter. Those of us who don't bow to the Micro$oft god and sacrifice
all
our money to it would like to use your site too.
Bill VonDane wrote:
> Sorry about that... I am moving it to a new server... Should be back today...
>
> On that same note... I have not been able to update the site for a while due
to
> a problem with the code... I am working on a new version that will solve the
> problem... Stay tuned...
>
> -Bill
--
Chris Woodhouse
3147 SW 127th St.
Oklahoma City, OK 73170
405-691-5206 (home)
chrisw@programmer.net
N35 20.492'
W97 34.342'
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| Subject: | Be Aware FAA can pull anyones license without recourse.. SECURITY |
** At what price?
--> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
I sent my comments... How about everyone else sending yours?
"As a Police Lieutenant, and having served over 20+ years in law
enforcement, I understand the need for security. However, this proposal is
far to drastic and does not allow for any reasonable avenue for appeal. Our
government should not take away freedoms arbitrarily, nor without allowing
for a viable venue of appeal."
----- Original Message -----
From: Cy Galley <cgalley@qcbc.org>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Be Aware FAA can pull anyones license without
recourse.. SECURITY
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
>
> I was able to make an electronic comment on the NPRM 2003-14293. I
thought
> maybe some of the rest of you might have a need to do this at some time so
> here are my instructions and suggestions.
> 1. Start at http://www.archives.gov/federal_register/index.html
> Here is where you can navigate to the register and find the notices for
your
> comments.
> I found that I wanted to comment on 2003-14293 Ineligibility for an Airman
> Certificate Based on Security Grounds
> 2. I then went to: http://dms.dot.gov
> and clicked on the "comment/submissions" tab. You can also do a search at
> this point.
> 3. I clicked continue on the next page.
> 4. After entering the docket number, it took me to the comment page. It is
> probably best to enter in your personal data but it doesn't not seem to be
> required.
> 5.Enter you comment in the box and click on submit. That's all.
> 6. You can copy and paste in your comments so I composed and Spell Checked
> it in Outlook Express but you could do the same copy and paste from a word
> processor. I need this to make me look intelligent.
>
> Cy Galley
> Editor, EAA Safety Programs
> cgalley@qcbc.org or experimenter@eaa.org
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hal Rozema" <hartist1@cox.net>
> To: "Geoff" <geoff@hoffmans.net>; "Bill O'Reilly" <oreilly@foxnews.com>;
> "business journal" <phoenix@bizjournals.com>; "CHANNEL 3"
> <scott@azfamily.com>; "Chuck Mulloy" <cdmbam@yahoo.com>; "drudge"
> <drudge@drudgereport.com>; "George W Bush" <president@whitehouse.gov>;
"Joe
> Norris EAA Information" <jnorris@eaa.org>; "Mariann"
> <info@arizonaaviation.com>; "Mike DiFrisco" <mdifrisco@eaa.org>; "Paul
> Bessing kitlog" <pbesing@yahoo.com>; "to send to Jodel Group"
> <jodel@yahoogroups.com>; "ZENITH LIST" <zenith-list@matronics.com>;
> <rv-list@matronics.com>; <avionics-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV-List: Be Aware FAA can pull anyones license without recourse..
> SECURITY
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: Hal Rozema <hartist1@cox.net>
> >
> >
> > You're Grounded/Suspended: TSA Trumps FAA
> > TSA Takes Over Issuance/Maintenance of Certificates, in New NPRM
> >
> > In the Federal Register Friday, 01.24.2003, you'll be able to see that
> > you can be
> > knocked out of the air -- just like that -- if the TSA alleges that you
> > pose
> > a 'security risk.' Pilots will be immediately grounded; mechanics, DERs
> > --
> > everybody who holds a certificate of any kind from the FAA -- can be
> > immediately out of a job.
> >
> > The TSA will notify you that you are considered a 'security risk.' It
> > will
> > notify the FAA; and the FAA will immediately suspend your ticket(s),
> > pending
> > your 'appeal.'
> >
> > You will then have to convince the TSA (which already declared you a
> > 'security risk') that you are not a 'security risk,' without your
> > knowing
> > why they think you are such a risk. Then, when the TSA issues its final
> > ruling, the FAA will revoke your papers.
> >
> > We wanted some confirmation on this, and called the TSA. Chris Rhatigan,
> > in
> > the press office there, said, "You may have to talk to the FAA on that."
> >
> > We read her a part of the summary, which says, "This final rule
> > expressly
> > makes a person ineligible to hold FAA-issued airman certificates if the
> > Transportation Security Administration notifies the FAA in writing that
> > the
> > person poses a security threat."
> >
> > As we continued reading, and noted that the TSA was calling the shots,
> > she
> > said, "Hold on a second." She returned, and said, "This [determination
> > that
> > you're a security threat] comes from an intelligence database." OK --
> > so,
> > how do we know how big a threat, or how it's determined that one even is
> >
> > such a threat? "We don't tell people how to get on to that database,"
> > she
> > said. In other words, if you're denied your certificate, you won't be
> > able
> > to find out why -- just that someone, somewhere, thinks you're a
> > 'security
> > risk.'
> >
> > Ms Rhatigan informed us that everything would be spelled out in the
> > NPRM,
> > and that we'd have to wait until Friday, to see what was getting
> > published
> > in the Federal Register. Well, folks the law goes into effect Friday. No
> >
> > NPRM. No discussion. Decree. Tough.
> >
> >
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: HCRV6@aol.com
In a message dated 1/23/03 6:59:52 PM Pacific Standard Time,
linenwool@attbi.com writes:
<< Well so much for the air drill I picked up at Boeing Surplus, it didn't
even
make it through the HS! I'm going to buy new this time but maybe I can
still get away with something not too expensive. Is anyone using the "under
$100" air drills available at Browns or Cleveland and finding them to do the
job just fine or do I really have to fork out a couple hundred for an air
drill? Also, so that I don't have to stop working while waiting for a new
drill, has anyone used their Makita for any work?
-Will Allen >>
Will, if you are just getting started I would urge you to not skimp on your
air drill. I too started out trying to save a few bucks and bought a $50
drill from ATS (a looong time ago). I have never been happy with it because
it lacks a "teasing throttle" but I stuck with it until it finally died as I
was finishing the fuselage. I spent about $100 or so then to get a second
best drill from Avery because I was so close to finishing (I thought). I
have kicked myself over and over for not spending the bucks to get a top
quality drill originally. Just my $0.02 worth.
Do not archive
Harry Crosby
Pleasanton, California
RV-6, starting firewall forward
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| Subject: | Re: Hours for wiring... |
--> RV-List message posted by: JDaniel343@aol.com
It seemed like it went on for weeks and it did, and this is after I had
already prewired the panel. You will learn that wiring seems to continue even
when you think your done.
John Danielson
RV-6 110 hrs.
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--> RV-List message posted by: "jonweisw@rcn.com" <jonweisw@rcn.com>
I plan on fuel injecting with dual lightspeed ignitions and am having a
hard time deciding between the O-360-A1A (replace carb with airflow
performance system, remove mags), or the IO-360M1B (remove mags). Does
anyone have strong feelings about these engines one way or the other? Other
than installation (or no installation) of the injector systems, were there
any other major installation differences which make one a better choice
than the other?
Cosmesis (ie, scoop on botom of cowl vs no scoop) is of a lesser concern
when it comes to this issue for me.
Jon Weiswasser
Canopy
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--> RV-List message posted by: "jonweisw@rcn.com" <jonweisw@rcn.com>
Has anyone used Van's firewall forward kit for the RV-8 with either a O-360
A1A, or IO-360M1B? Were there any other significant parts which you needed?
Were all the hoses of good quality/adequate length? Any thoughts here would
be greatly appreciated...
Jon Weiswasser
Canopy
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| Subject: | Re: Hours for wiring... |
--> RV-List message posted by: HCRV6@aol.com
In a message dated 1/24/03 11:37:38 AM Pacific Standard Time,
JDaniel343@aol.com writes:
<< You will learn that wiring seems to continue even when you think your
done. >>
So I've noticed!!!!
Do not archive
Harry Crosby
Pleasanton, California
RV-6, starting firewall forward
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--> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
Rick Galati wrote:
> I have used air drills to build the taxpayers airplanes all my work
> life. I have a perfectly good Sioux. In the end,
> when I need to use a pistol grip hand drill, I reach for and use my 14.4V
> DeWalt cordless. With its keyless chuck it's quick, variable speed,
> unencumbered, high torque and gives my compressor a rest. For holes
> that require extra precision, I use my drill press. For restricted access
> holes I use my 45 degree (preferred), or 90 degree drill motor. My
> experience has been that the Sioux pistol grip air drill is rarely used on
> my project.
The air drill used for my entire RV-6 project (and still using it) was
the unbranded drill that came in the kit I bought from U.S. Industrial
Tool and Supply. It appears to be similar to the inexpensive drills
available from the building supply stores.
First move was to remove the original keyed chuck and replace it with a
keyless chuck from Home Depot. The keyless chuck saves a *lot* of time,
and if doing it over, I would also buy another cheap air drill so two
different size bits could remain loaded all the time.
I hoisted a Sioux at some of our builder group meetings, and no doubt it
is a fine piece of equipment. However, the el cheapo drill has given
great service in my shop. Keep a small squirt can of Marvel Mystery Oil
nearby and add a few drops to the nozzle of all your air tools
occasionally.
Sam Buchanan
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--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Brumbelow <csbrumbelow@fedex.com>
Yes, and it wasn't much help. To be fair, it was just a "preliminary" list for
the -8, but in reality, it was the same kit as for the -6/7/etc. (even assumed
the cables for the center quadrant). I had already concocted a list - based on
the -6 adjusted for what I thought would be different for the -8A and used it.
Even then there were things that were not quite right. Check though, to see if
Vans has "finalized" the list for the -8.
Even with all of my planning, I have still had to swap the occasional item or
order something additional.
csb
"jonweisw@rcn.com" wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "jonweisw@rcn.com" <jonweisw@rcn.com>
>
> Has anyone used Van's firewall forward kit for the RV-8 with either a O-360
> A1A, or IO-360M1B? Were there any other significant parts which you needed?
> Were all the hoses of good quality/adequate length? Any thoughts here would
> be greatly appreciated...
>
> Jon Weiswasser
> Canopy
>
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| Subject: | VM1000 cyl head temp prob install |
--> RV-List message posted by: David Aronson <aronsond@pacbell.net>
Listers:
I am installing my cyl head temp probes for the VM1000. Do I need a
copper gasket. VM is closed today and I need to know. Thanks
Dave Aronson
N504RV RV4
Flight SOOOOON!
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| Subject: | Re: Airflow Performance bypass valve cabling question |
--> RV-List message posted by: DJB6A@cs.com
I have the purge valve on the right with the arm moving horizontally. I also
am making, should finish it this weekend, a fiberglass, tight fitting plenum.
I made a bracket to fit between the engine casing and the cluster, filed down
the spacers, Used 1/4 " angle and cut most of the one angle off on the top
side.
The cable comes through the baffle on the left, and then makes a 90 degree
curve (not tight bend) to the bracket. The arm, relative to front 12 o'clock,
goes from about 2 to 11. I have one of Wick's screw type cable ends on the
cable, but had to turn it so that the cable attach fitting is underneath the
arm, otherwise it hits the plenum. I pull the knob to purge - start and push
it to close - fly. That way it is out of the way when flying. I have the
purge cable on the right side of mixture - fixed pitch no prop cable, so I
know it needs to be in when flying.
Dave Burnham
6A Superior AirFlow etc.
IL
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| Subject: | Re: Be Aware FAA can pull anyones license without recourse.. |
SECU
RITY
--> RV-List message posted by: "Wiethe, Philip (P.J.)" <pwiethe@ford.com>
There are plenty of guys out there still flying without valid certificates...not
that I'm advocating that...but if I was screwed over by the FAA I may consider
it.
Has anyone ever been ramp checked? I don't think it ever happens where I fly out
of.
Phil
8A wings
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| Subject: | Re: Be Aware FAA can pull anyones license without recourse.. |
SECU RITY
--> RV-List message posted by: "Rick Jory" <rickjory@msn.com>
Are you insured? I'm not trying to bring up a long series of posts . . .
but I would strongly doubt any carrier will pay for any potential loss or
liability if you are not "legal". To me I would be far more worried about
potential financial loss if something happened versus whether or not I will
get ramp checked.
Rick Jory
----- Original Message -----
From: Wiethe, Philip (P.J.) <pwiethe@ford.com>
Subject: RV-List: Re: Be Aware FAA can pull anyones license without
recourse.. SECU RITY
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Wiethe, Philip (P.J.)" <pwiethe@ford.com>
>
> There are plenty of guys out there still flying without valid
certificates...not that I'm advocating that...but if I was screwed over by
the FAA I may consider it.
> Has anyone ever been ramp checked? I don't think it ever happens where I
fly out of.
>
> Phil
> 8A wings
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Be Aware FAA can pull anyones license without recourse.. |
SECU RITY
--> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
I saw a ramp check once, after having lunch (at Harris Ranch Coalinga, Ca.),
me & my companion watched for a few seconds... looked at each other, then
pulled a 180 and walked back to the restaurant for dessert. It did not seem
like something we wanted to be a part of. But that was just once, been
flyin' since 1976 (the vast majority of which I suspect could've had actions
brought against me by a "G-man") and that's all I've ever seen. Anyone else
with ramp check experience(s).
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Wiethe, Philip (P.J.) <pwiethe@ford.com>
Subject: RV-List: Re: Be Aware FAA can pull anyones license without
recourse.. SECU RITY
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Wiethe, Philip (P.J.)" <pwiethe@ford.com>
>
> There are plenty of guys out there still flying without valid
certificates...not that I'm advocating that...but if I was screwed over by
the FAA I may consider it.
> Has anyone ever been ramp checked? I don't think it ever happens where I
fly out of.
>
> Phil
> 8A wings
>
>
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| Subject: | Headset/Mic jacks |
--> RV-List message posted by: Ed_Cole@maximhq.com
I'm looking for a creative place to mount the headset/mic jacks on a -6A.
On my flying -6A they are mounted in the aft section of the armrests
which is okay but I'd like some different ideas and opinions.
Has anyone mounted them in the rear window brace that goes between
the rollbar and the baggage bulkhead?
Ed Cole
RV6A N2169D Flying
RV6A N648RV Finishing
Maxim Home Page:
http://www.maxim-ic.com
Products Page:
http://www.maxim-ic.com/MaximProducts/products.htm
New Products:
http://dbserv.maxim-ic.com/new_products.cfm
Datasheets:
http://dbserv.maxim-ic.com/l_datasheet3.cfm
The information contained in this message is confidential
and may be legally privileged. The message is intended
solely for the addressee(s). If you are not the intended
recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination,
or reproduction is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful.
If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender
by return e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message.
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Brown" <nightmare@adelphia.net>
Hi Guys, I'm looking for a KMD-150 with GPS. Has anyone found the cheapest place
to find one of these? Best price that I have found is 2800.
Paul
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| Subject: | Headset/Mic jacks |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
Ditto for my RV-8. Anyone especially proud of where they put theirs?
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
2003: The year of flight!
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> Ed_Cole@maximhq.com
> Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 3:58 PM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV-List: Headset/Mic jacks
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Ed_Cole@maximhq.com
>
> I'm looking for a creative place to mount the headset/mic
> jacks on a -6A. On my flying -6A they are mounted in the aft
> section of the armrests which is okay but I'd like some
> different ideas and opinions.
>
> Has anyone mounted them in the rear window brace that goes
> between the rollbar and the baggage bulkhead?
>
> Ed Cole
> RV6A N2169D Flying
> RV6A N648RV Finishing
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| Subject: | Re: Headset/Mic jacks |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Rick Jory" <rickjory@msn.com>
On an 8A it is easy to put the jacks on the lower right console . . . I
actually used the surface that slants "back" toward the firewall. This
keeps the plugs out of the way and the headset cable pretty much away from
the rear seater's footwell.
For the rear seater, I built a small aluminum structure that is up on the
longeron in the panel ahead of the rear seat armrest. This makes it easy
for the rear seater to see where/how the headset gets plugged in.
Rick Jory
----- Original Message -----
From: Larry Bowen <Larry@bowenaero.com>
Subject: RE: RV-List: Headset/Mic jacks
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>
> Ditto for my RV-8. Anyone especially proud of where they put theirs?
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry@BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
> 2003: The year of flight!
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> > Ed_Cole@maximhq.com
> > Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 3:58 PM
> > To: rv-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RV-List: Headset/Mic jacks
> >
> >
> > --> RV-List message posted by: Ed_Cole@maximhq.com
> >
> > I'm looking for a creative place to mount the headset/mic
> > jacks on a -6A. On my flying -6A they are mounted in the aft
> > section of the armrests which is okay but I'd like some
> > different ideas and opinions.
> >
> > Has anyone mounted them in the rear window brace that goes
> > between the rollbar and the baggage bulkhead?
> >
> > Ed Cole
> > RV6A N2169D Flying
> > RV6A N648RV Finishing
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Is Lightspeed Worth It? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ollie Washburn" <skybolt-aviator@msn.com>
Rob---I am very happy with it.Two blade starts and eng.seems smoother.Simple installation.I
have it on rt. mag. and would do it again.
Ollie 6A Central (FRIGID) Fl.
----- Original Message -----
From: Rob Miller
Subject: RV-List: Is Lightspeed Worth It?
--> RV-List message posted by: Rob Miller <rmill2000@yahoo.com>
Hi guys
To all of you flying that have upgraded to the Lightspeed Ignition: Would
you do it again? Is it worth the money, the time, and effort to replace
the right mag?
Thinking hard about this one.
Rob Miller
-8 N262RM "Bad Cat" 40 hrs.
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| Subject: | Re: Headset/Mic jacks |
--> RV-List message posted by: Rob Prior <rv7@b4.ca>
An idea that i've been kicking around in the back of my mind for the
time when I get that far along is to mount the jacks high on the rear
baggage bulkhead, one on each side of the cockpit, but each in line with
the seat in front of it. I guess that would be above the shoulder
harness attach points?
It's extra wiring to get them back there, but it has the benefit of
getting most of the cabling out of the "working space" of the cockpit,
and when you're not using the headset you could hang it from it's plugs
where they stick out of the wall (or put a hook right above them if
you're worried about stress on the plugs/jacks).
Being out of the area where you're moving around would also mean you're
less likely to hit the ANR power switch or volume sliders if you have a
Lightspeed headset... Don't ask how I know this would be a benefit
("gee, nobody talking at the airport today... must be quiet").
-RB4
Ed_Cole@maximhq.com wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Ed_Cole@maximhq.com
>
> I'm looking for a creative place to mount the headset/mic jacks on a -6A.
> On my flying -6A they are mounted in the aft section of the armrests
> which is okay but I'd like some different ideas and opinions.
>
> Has anyone mounted them in the rear window brace that goes between
> the rollbar and the baggage bulkhead?
>
> Ed Cole
> RV6A N2169D Flying
> RV6A N648RV Finishing
> Maxim Home Page:
> http://www.maxim-ic.com
> Products Page:
> http://www.maxim-ic.com/MaximProducts/products.htm
> New Products:
> http://dbserv.maxim-ic.com/new_products.cfm
> Datasheets:
> http://dbserv.maxim-ic.com/l_datasheet3.cfm
> The information contained in this message is confidential
> and may be legally privileged. The message is intended
> solely for the addressee(s). If you are not the intended
> recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination,
> or reproduction is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful.
> If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender
> by return e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Headset/Mic jacks (helicopter jacks) |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
Sort of straying from the topic, but am I the only builder out there who is
going to use helicopter jacks? Single coiled cord, single jack, one short
plug, no fuss no muss. I'm probably going to install the jacks up on the
canopy frame (tip-up).
Obviously I'll have my heli-to-GA Y-adapter stowed somewhere in the plane in
case somebody insists on bringing along a sloppy two-plug GA headset.
Am I crazy? This seems more logical in a small-cabin setup to me. I always
liked how heli headset cables/jacks were designed (overhead, short single
coiled cord).
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (fuselage)
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob Prior" <rv7@b4.ca>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Headset/Mic jacks
> --> RV-List message posted by: Rob Prior <rv7@b4.ca>
>
> An idea that i've been kicking around in the back of my mind for the
> time when I get that far along is to mount the jacks high on the rear
> baggage bulkhead, one on each side of the cockpit, but each in line with
> the seat in front of it. I guess that would be above the shoulder
> harness attach points?
>
> It's extra wiring to get them back there, but it has the benefit of
> getting most of the cabling out of the "working space" of the cockpit,
> and when you're not using the headset you could hang it from it's plugs
> where they stick out of the wall (or put a hook right above them if
> you're worried about stress on the plugs/jacks).
>
> Being out of the area where you're moving around would also mean you're
> less likely to hit the ANR power switch or volume sliders if you have a
> Lightspeed headset... Don't ask how I know this would be a benefit
> ("gee, nobody talking at the airport today... must be quiet").
>
> -RB4
>
> Ed_Cole@maximhq.com wrote:
> > --> RV-List message posted by: Ed_Cole@maximhq.com
> >
> > I'm looking for a creative place to mount the headset/mic jacks on
a -6A.
> > On my flying -6A they are mounted in the aft section of the armrests
> > which is okay but I'd like some different ideas and opinions.
> >
> > Has anyone mounted them in the rear window brace that goes between
> > the rollbar and the baggage bulkhead?
> >
> > Ed Cole
> > RV6A N2169D Flying
> > RV6A N648RV Finishing
> > Maxim Home Page:
> > http://www.maxim-ic.com
> > Products Page:
> > http://www.maxim-ic.com/MaximProducts/products.htm
> > New Products:
> > http://dbserv.maxim-ic.com/new_products.cfm
> > Datasheets:
> > http://dbserv.maxim-ic.com/l_datasheet3.cfm
> > The information contained in this message is confidential
> > and may be legally privileged. The message is intended
> > solely for the addressee(s). If you are not the intended
> > recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination,
> > or reproduction is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful.
> > If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender
> > by return e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | VM-1000 Cyl. Temp.Probe |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob n' Lu Olds" <oldsfolks@aol.com>
Unless your probe is different from any I have seen; the ring of the probe replaces
the copper plug gasket ring. Two would change the depth the plug goes into
the Cylinder head threads .
Bob Olds A&P , EAA Tech. counselor
RV-4 , N1191X
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| Subject: | Re: Simmons oil sump |
--> RV-List message posted by: Bbbb Green <rvinfo@juno.com>
There is such a thing as Simmonds 530 fuel injection system such as is
used on the IO-360-B1A. I don't know anything about it except some vauge
recollection of a description of it in an article years ago. I believe
it is just a fuel injection system and not a sump, but could be wrong.
Bruce Green
Eagle N110GM
On Thu, 23 Jan 2003 10:50:09 -0500 "Wiethe, Philip (P.J.)"
<pwiethe@ford.com> writes:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Wiethe, Philip (P.J.)"
> <pwiethe@ford.com>
>
> Anyone heard of a "Simmons" aftermarket oil sump and intake for
> IO-360's ?
>
> Phil
> 8A wings
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Carpet attachment? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jim Oke <wjoke@shaw.ca>
Good question - but I haven't weighed the hardboard (the only real increment
over sticking carpet to the bare floor) so I cannot say for sure. The two
hardboard pieces ended up about 18 x 20 in when I was through trimming and
the stuff seems (much) lighter than 1/4 inch ply so I would guesstimate 2 to
3 lbs.
If time and opportunity permits, I'll do some measuring and weighing and see
what the real number is.
Jim Oke
RV-6A
Winnipeg, MB
----- Original Message -----
From: "kempthornes" <kempthornes@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Carpet attachment?
> --> RV-List message posted by: kempthornes <kempthornes@earthlink.net>
>
> At 08:00 PM 1/23/2003 -0600, you wrote:
> >--> RV-List message posted by: Jim Oke <wjoke@shaw.ca>
> And the weight?
>
> K. H. (Hal) Kempthorne
> RV6-a N7HK flying!
> PRB (El Paso de Robles, CA)
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Experimental Panel Builder |
--> RV-List message posted by: Bill VonDane <n8wv@vondane.com>
Ok... So the XML editor I found is not too good...
If anyone knows of a good free XML editor, please let me know off list...
Thanks!
-Bill
bill@vondane.com
do not archive
Quoting Bill VonDane <n8wv@vondane.com>:
www.epanelbuilder.com is back up...
I found a new XML editor and thought I would see if it would allow me to make
some updates, and it did...
I just added the Garmin GPSMAP 196...
I will see about getting some other new stuff added as well...
If you would like to see something that is not currently there, please follow
this link: http://epanelbuilder.com/
-Bill VonDane
RV-8A ~ 86 hrs
www.vondane.com
----- End forwarded message -----
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--> RV-List message posted by: Mark Antenbring <mantenbring@pangaeainc.com>
I concur. I initially got a $100 Campbell Hausfeld drill, and it's a piece
of garbage. It's heavy, uses lots of air, and it can't start slow for
drilling out a bad rivet. Get the Sioux mini palm drill 1412 model. You
don't need the reversible model though. Brown's has it on sale for $185:
http://www.browntool.com/productselect.asp?ProductID=115 You'll be able to
easily sell it after you're done your project (but you won't want to).
BTW, if anyone wants the Campbell Hausfeld drill, it's for sale - $10 plus
shipping (only used once :)
> Time: 07:14:55 PM PST US
> From: JDaniel343@aol.com
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Air drills
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: JDaniel343@aol.com
>
> Will, do yourself a favor an purchase a 1/4" Sioux air drill,
> 3600 rpm model.
> Cleavland sells them as do others. There are over 18,000
> holes you will have
> to drill and this light drill with great trigger control is a
> must in my
> opinion. This will probably be the best tool for the money.
> You can use
> cheaper tools, but your probably going to be building for a
> long time. Do
> yourself a favor.
> John Danielson
> RV-6 110 hrs.
>
>
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| Subject: | Experimental Panel Builder |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com>
Chris,
If someone offers to loan you a Ford for free, do you complain that it isn't
a Fiat and throw in an insult for Ford and their customers? Bill went to a
lot of trouble to make life easier for us. A little appreciation is in
order. Maybe even a donation.
Terry
Do not archive
--> RV-List message posted by: Chris <chrisw3@cox.net>
When are you going to get a version that works on Netscape, or any other web
browser
for that matter. Those of us who don't bow to the Micro$oft god and
sacrifice all
our money to it would like to use your site too.
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| Subject: | Re: Experimental Panel Builder |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
xmlspy seems to be the best, but you asked for a free editor...Microsoft XML
Notepad is about as free & simple as it gets:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnxml/html/
xmlpadintro.asp
If that link wraps and doesn't work, try this link instead:
http://checkoway.com/url/?s=a589d599
do not archive
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (fuselage/finish)
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill VonDane" <n8wv@vondane.com>
Subject: RV-List: Re: Experimental Panel Builder
> --> RV-List message posted by: Bill VonDane <n8wv@vondane.com>
>
> Ok... So the XML editor I found is not too good...
>
> If anyone knows of a good free XML editor, please let me know off list...
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Bill
> bill@vondane.com
>
> do not archive
>
>
> Quoting Bill VonDane <n8wv@vondane.com>:
>
> www.epanelbuilder.com is back up...
>
> I found a new XML editor and thought I would see if it would allow me to
make
> some updates, and it did...
>
> I just added the Garmin GPSMAP 196...
>
> I will see about getting some other new stuff added as well...
>
> If you would like to see something that is not currently there, please
follow
> this link: http://epanelbuilder.com/
>
> -Bill VonDane
> RV-8A ~ 86 hrs
> www.vondane.com
>
>
> ----- End forwarded message -----
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: VM1000 cyl head temp prob install |
--> RV-List message posted by: Rv8don@aol.com
dave,
No you don't need copper gaskets on the cylinger head probes. You may wnat
to out a small bit of anti-seize grease on the threads so they'll come out
easy after several hundred temperature cycles.
-Don
RV-8 NJ
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Kenneth Beene" <kbeene@citilink.com>
I completed my RV-6A with an Avery low priced air drill. It still works
as it did when new. However, when I started my RV-4 I purchased the
Sioux 1412 3600 RPM 1/4 inch drill motor. If it fits your budget this
is definitely the way to go. I still use the 3/8 inch Avery which is
made in Japan, use a cheap Northern Tools 3/8" angle drill, DeWalt
cordless and drill press. The cordless is great for larger holes and
the Unibit. The Sioux high RPM is important when drilling a 40 size
hole. The light weight and trigger on the Sioux really feels good.
Think of it in cost per hole for about 50,000 holes - I'm sure you
will want to build more than one RV.
Ken
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| Subject: | Re: KY, OH, TN get together |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
Dana Overall wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
>
> For those of you outside the KY area, please delete
Oh I see, so those of us in Oregon are not invited? :-)
Jerry
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Is Lightspeed Worth It? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
Rob Miller wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Rob Miller <rmill2000@yahoo.com>
>
> Hi guys
>
> To all of you flying that have upgraded to the Lightspeed Ignition: Would
> you do it again? Is it worth the money, the time, and effort to replace
> the right mag?
>
> Thinking hard about this one.
>
> Rob Miller
> -8 N262RM "Bad Cat" 40 hrs.
>
>
Now who are you going to get that has spent money on one to admit that
they did not like it? :-)
And I doubt that you well see 1.5 gal per hour saving very often.
Jerry
do not archive
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| Subject: | Sioux Air Drills - Adv. |
--> RV-List message posted by: BrownTool@aol.com
This is an advertisement... and will only be posted one time :-)
All this talk about air drills has prompted me to remind everyone that we
have a great sale on AMERICAN MADE Sioux Air Drills which is scheduled to end
on January 31st.
For example: Our SIOUX Model 1412 (3600 RPM Super Small Mini Palm Drill)
normally sells in our catalog for $199.95, but is now on SALE for only
$185.95, plus you get a FREE T-shirt and a $15.00 Gift Certificate good
towards your next order. (In effect, the drill will only cost you $170.95
when you consider the $15.00 Gift Certificate!)
All of our sale prices and special offers can be found at:
www.browntool.com
Any questions? Please contact me off list.
Thanks, we appreciate all of our RV customers!
Michael Brown
Brown Aviation Tool Supply Co.
OKC
1-800-587-3883
www.browntool.com
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| Subject: | Re: KY, OH, TN get together |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
You get here Jerry and I guarantee lobster for everyone......how 'bout
that:-)
I posted the message listing those three states as I am in central KY, just
south of Lexington and very reachable, by car, from OH & TN by way of a very
reasonable drive. I have had numerous responses off the list. This could
shape up to be a very well attended winter get together. If enough people
fly in, I'll "hire" one of the local CFIs to drive people from the airport
to my house/shop. As it looks early on, I'll probably have something
catered. There seems to be a lot of RV people out there just looking for
something airplane to do during the winter. Looks like a large keg
of.......Pepsi, Pepsi..right!!
Come one, come all. Like I said lies will be flowing so I'll start
it..."This one time in a twin, one engine out, night IFR, I was flying
inverted and............."
You taildragger guys can use the red S card anytime on Feb. 15th:-)
Dana Overall
1036 Countryside Drive
Richmond, KY
859 369-3156 cell 859 625-2844
http://rvflying.tripod.com
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>From: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV-List: KY, OH, TN get together
>Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 16:01:09 -0800
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
>
>Dana Overall wrote:
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
> >
> > For those of you outside the KY area, please delete
>
>Oh I see, so those of us in Oregon are not invited? :-)
>
>Jerry
>
>do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Headset/Mic jacks |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Sears" <sears@searnet.com>
I was going to answer this one off line; but, I decided to chime in on line
to maybe give someone else another idea. I have my jacks on the lower
portion of the F605 on each side just above the floor. In fact, the bodies
are hidden in the flap lift arm area behind the cover plate so I can look at
them each time I do the flap inspection at annual time. I ran the wires
under the arm rests to hide them from view.
The reason I put my jacks behind me was to keep the wires out of my way.
Although I've had jacks in the panel before, I never did like them there
because the wires hung in the way, all the time. Now, they don't. When I'm
done for the day, I hang the headsets on the little hangers I made and
placed at the front of the brace that runs from the roll bar to the baggage
compartment wall at the top. Nothing fancy. Just function.
As a side note, I just installed a set of jacks on the F621 just in front of
the panel on my friend's RV-9A project. He wanted his up front. That was
the easiest place to put them because his panel is pretty full on the left
side. It works for him; but, I don't like them there for me. I must admit
they were a bit easier than mine to install, though. :-)
Jim Sears in KY
RV-6A N198JS
EAA Tech Counselor
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Vince Himsl" <vhimsl@turbonet.com>
The FWF kit seems awfully pricey! Or am I unaware of how quickly the
'incidentals' can add up?
Thanks,
Vince Himsl
RV8 Fuselage SB
Moscow, ID USA
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
jonweisw@rcn.com
Subject: RV-List: FWF kits
--> RV-List message posted by: "jonweisw@rcn.com" <jonweisw@rcn.com>
Has anyone used Van's firewall forward kit for the RV-8 with either a
O-360
A1A, or IO-360M1B? Were there any other significant parts which you
needed?
Were all the hoses of good quality/adequate length? Any thoughts here
would
be greatly appreciated...
Jon Weiswasser
Canopy
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net>
Lets just say you are becoming aware!
Do nopt archive ... Jim in Kelowna
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vince Himsl" <vhimsl@turbonet.com>
Subject: RE: RV-List: FWF kits
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Vince Himsl" <vhimsl@turbonet.com>
>
> The FWF kit seems awfully pricey! Or am I unaware of how quickly the
> 'incidentals' can add up?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Vince Himsl
> RV8 Fuselage SB
> Moscow, ID USA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> jonweisw@rcn.com
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV-List: FWF kits
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "jonweisw@rcn.com" <jonweisw@rcn.com>
>
> Has anyone used Van's firewall forward kit for the RV-8 with either a
> O-360
> A1A, or IO-360M1B? Were there any other significant parts which you
> needed?
> Were all the hoses of good quality/adequate length? Any thoughts here
> would
> be greatly appreciated...
>
> Jon Weiswasser
> Canopy
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Is Lightspeed Worth It? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@usjet.net>
> Now who are you going to get that has spent money on one to
> admit that
> they did not like it? :-)
> And I doubt that you well see 1.5 gal per hour saving very often.
I can't imagine a situation where one would see 1.5 gal savings either.
I have the LASAR system, which advances almost as much as the Lightspeed
and is like having dual Lightspeeds since it is on both plugs. I have
played around at cruise by shutting it down and going back to 25 degree
magneto advance, and have noted a two to three knot reduction in
airspeed, and a large drop in EGT. What I will do on the next long
cross country is to set up some carefully leaned settings with the LASAR
on, then shut down the LASAR and reset power and leaning to get the same
IAS. If I do this several times back and forth, some understanding of
the real savings can be determined. Anyone else planning to do this be
aware of the advance schedule built into the LASAR - it starts various
timers limiting advance for the first XX minutes of operation, so one
would have to account for that.
Alex Peterson
Maple Grove, MN
RV6-A N66AP 251 hours
www.usfamily.net/web/alexpeterson
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| Subject: | Re: Is Lightspeed Worth It? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "John" <n1cxo320@salidaco.com>
Jerry added to this thread, "I doubt you'll see the 1.5 gph...etc.
Well, I have an O-320-160HP Lycoming in my RV6A and the Matronics fuel flow
gauge consistently shows 5.9 to 6.1 GPH when turning 2,300RPM and doing
175TAS day in and day out. Some of this fuel economy is from the electronic
ignition I suspect.
John at Salida, CO
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| Subject: | Re: Hours for wiring... |
--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie Kuss <chaskuss@bellsouth.net>
Chuck,
Thanks for the laugh! I'm passing this on to all my avionic tech buddies!
Charlie Kuss
RV-8A cockpit systems stuff
Boca Raton, Fl.
>--> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
>
>Bill,
>
> It's a simple mathematical equation... you take the total length of
>each individual wire (or clusters there of) and multiple that by the number
>of connecting terminals, then divide by the number of switches, subtract the
>total number of shorts you caused from the total number of fuses or circuit
>breakers you now discovered you better install, then add the total number of
>hours you have lost sleep worrying about whether you accidentally cross
>wired something/anything, then take the remainder and square it by the
>actual number of times you've bit your lip, cussed out loud (soft grumblings
>don't count), pulled out your now graying hair, or watched sparks (and/or
>smoke) come from the components you're installing/testing. And viola'
>see "simple"
>
> Chuck
>
>do not archive
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Bill VonDane <n8wv@vondane.com>
>To: <rv-list@matronics.com>; <rv8list@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: RV-List: Hours for wiring...
>
>
>> --> RV-List message posted by: Bill VonDane <n8wv@vondane.com>
>>
>> Anyone out there keep track of exactly how long (how many hours) it took
>them to
>> wire their RV?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> -Bill VonDane
>> RV-8A ~ 86.5 hrs
>> www.vondane.com
>>
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Is Lightspeed Worth It? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tracy Crook" <lors01@msn.com>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "John" <n1cxo320@salidaco.com>
>
> Jerry added to this thread, "I doubt you'll see the 1.5 gph...etc.
>
> Well, I have an O-320-160HP Lycoming in my RV6A and the Matronics fuel
flow
> gauge consistently shows 5.9 to 6.1 GPH when turning 2,300RPM and doing
> 175TAS day in and day out. Some of this fuel economy is from the
electronic
> ignition I suspect.
>
> John at Salida, CO
John, It's hard to get carefully measured data on this subject and I am
frequently asked about fuel burn comparisons between Lycomings and my Mazda
rotary. My fuel burn numbers are almost identical to yours when I'm leaned
for best economy and at 12,000 feet. At what altitude were your
measurements made and do you know what the manifold pressure was?
Thanks,
Tracy Crook
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "DANIEL W WATTERS" <danielwatters1@msn.com>
I would like to thank everyone who responded to my message concerning which
RV I should order considering my size. I received so many messages it would
take a long time to respond to each individually. I even received telephone
numbers. After reading all the messages and rereading the brochure I have
decided on the -9A. As the brochure states you can't go wrong with any of
the RV models. The -8A would be a fantastic choice but, in my opinion, more
expensive to build. I would have to have the 200 hp engine. The 7 is
another great airplane but I don't need to do aerobatics. I just want an
easy flying, slow landing, cross country cruiser. There are good arguments
for each model. I feel I can be comfortable in the -9A. Thanks again to
all who responded. You can now feel responsible for the complete destuction
of my savings account.
Dan Watters
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| Subject: | Re: Is Lightspeed Worth It? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "RV6 Flyer" <rv6_flyer@hotmail.com>
John:
What is your altitude and manifold pressure?
Coming back from Sacramento to Los Angeles 3 weeks ago, I was 11,500, 20
inches, 2,300 RPM, 5.7 - 5.8 GPH and GROUND SPEED was 194 Knots.
In my humble opinon, the Lightspeed is not worth the $1K USD that it costs.
Average fuel burn for a one year period runs 7.4 GPH based on fuel purchased
and Hobbs flown. I am also based near sea level and not at 7,489 feet
(042). Last year was the first year that I did not fly 200 hours since the
airplane made its first flight.
Gary A. Sobek
"My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell,
1,244 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA
http://SoCAL_WVAF.rvproject.com
----Original Message Follows----
From: "John" <n1cxo320@salidaco.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Is Lightspeed Worth It?
--> RV-List message posted by: "John" <n1cxo320@salidaco.com>
Jerry added to this thread, "I doubt you'll see the 1.5 gph...etc.
Well, I have an O-320-160HP Lycoming in my RV6A and the Matronics fuel flow
gauge consistently shows 5.9 to 6.1 GPH when turning 2,300RPM and doing
175TAS day in and day out. Some of this fuel economy is from the electronic
ignition I suspect.
John at Salida, CO
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| Subject: | Re: Hours for wiring... |
--> RV-List message posted by: David Aronson <aronsond@pacbell.net>
Bill & Listers:
I have finally finished the electrical of my RV4. Pretty complex schematic that
Bob
at AEC helped with. Dual Alternators, all electric, 60amp, Essenc. Bus, Main Bus,
Bat bus, EFIS, two coms, T&B, VM1000, Dual sticks operating flaps, radio flip/flop,
PTT, Transponder Ident, Autopilot track, Accutrak Autopilot, Seat warmers front
and
back, on and on and on..... I started the system, after all instruments and all
components were located and no fabrication except to drill for adel clamps and
passage ways for cable. The time, 240 hours plus or minus 50 hours that could
be
counted as other things like mounting antennas. Remember, you have to wire pins
for
each instrument that someone hasnt made a harness for, each wire needs to be
pre-planned, put in place and then moved a few times as the bulk grows and the
ideal
path becomes TOO SMALL. Then you have to keep testing it, refining, fixing the
screwups, etc. re-designing as your best plans are inadequate as the monster
grows. Then you lay there at night thinking, "If I am going to have an autopilot
this is the time, and so on for Wig-Wag, Cooling fan, Seat warmers, stick control
requiring relays and special connectors and soldering 26guage wires, etc. SOOOO.
When you are finished and you sit in your aircraft, first time hit the master and
then turn your instruments on and test each circuit. When you finally tune your
radio to the local freq. and hear the traffic above through your own headsets,
When
you push the button on the stick and the flap motor whines away and the radio
frequency changes, WOW!
It also could go Pfft! Would I do it again, You bet your #*S.
We do these things for the feeling of accomplishment and maybe to save money too.
The payoff is well worth it. I have already felt like a million when someone who
comes by to look says, "Did you do this?" ---"Sure, it was easy, your could do
it in
a snap".
Dave Aronson
RV4 N504RV
Flying real SOOOON
Bill VonDane wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Bill VonDane <n8wv@vondane.com>
>
> Anyone out there keep track of exactly how long (how many hours) it took them
to
> wire their RV?
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Bill VonDane
> RV-8A ~ 86.5 hrs
> www.vondane.com
>
> do not archive
>
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| Subject: | My 7A QB Kit arrived at Vans |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Karie Daniel" <karied4@attbi.com>
I got a call today from Vans telling me my 7A QB kit is ready to be picked up.
Almost two months early! I'll be driving down from Issaquah Washington on the
10th to pick it up.
Karie Daniel
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| Subject: | Re: VM-1000 Cyl. Temp.Probe |
--> RV-List message posted by: David Aronson <aronsond@pacbell.net>
Bob:
There is no ring or washer and when I screw it in, the head gets so far into the
fins that my wrench barely can secure it. That is why I am asking. The position
of the sensor, vertically
is not affected as it is spring loaded and as you screw it in you can see that
it stays seated fully in the head. If yours had a ring or gasket then maybe I
am missing something. This is
the last thing that I need to do before going to the airport.
Dave
Bob n' Lu Olds wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Bob n' Lu Olds" <oldsfolks@aol.com>
>
> Unless your probe is different from any I have seen; the ring of the probe replaces
the copper plug gasket ring. Two would change the depth the plug goes into
the Cylinder head threads .
>
> Bob Olds A&P , EAA Tech. counselor
> RV-4 , N1191X
>
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| Subject: | Re: My 7A QB Kit arrived at Vans |
--> RV-List message posted by: "John Starn" <jhstarn@earthlink.net>
Anybody want to start a pool to pick the date he really goes to pick up the
kit ? Wait untill the 10th, no way Jose. I'll put in a buck for 1-29-03.
KABONG Do Not Archive.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Karie Daniel" <karied4@attbi.com>
Subject: RV-List: My 7A QB Kit arrived at Vans
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Karie Daniel" <karied4@attbi.com>
>
> I got a call today from Vans telling me my 7A QB kit is ready to be picked
up. Almost two months early! I'll be driving down from Issaquah Washington
on the 10th to pick it up.
>
> Karie Daniel
>
>
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| Subject: | My 7A QB Kit arrived at Vans |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com>
Yea, Karie. They might sell it to someone else between now and the 10th.
Terry
Do not archive
--> RV-List message posted by: "John Starn" <jhstarn@earthlink.net>
Anybody want to start a pool to pick the date he really goes to pick up the
kit ? Wait untill the 10th, no way Jose. I'll put in a buck for 1-29-03.
KABONG Do Not Archive.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Karie Daniel" <karied4@attbi.com>
Subject: RV-List: My 7A QB Kit arrived at Vans
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Karie Daniel" <karied4@attbi.com>
>
> I got a call today from Vans telling me my 7A QB kit is ready to be picked
up. Almost two months early! I'll be driving down from Issaquah Washington
on the 10th to pick it up.
>
> Karie Daniel
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Hours for wiring... |
--> RV-List message posted by: Mark Phillips <ripsteel@edge.net>
Dave, I am gonna stand up and read this at Bob's seminar next week-
won't be a dry eye in the house...................
From the PossumWorks in TN
Mark - do not archive
PS- Oh yeah, thanks- at this point in the project, I need all the
inspiration possible!!!! You bet YOUR #*S.
David Aronson wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: David Aronson <aronsond@pacbell.net>
>
> Bill & Listers:
> I have finally finished the electrical of my RV4. Pretty complex schematic that
Bob
> at AEC helped with. Dual Alternators, all electric, 60amp, Essenc. Bus, Main
Bus,
> Bat bus, EFIS, two coms, T&B, VM1000, Dual sticks operating flaps, radio flip/flop,
> PTT, Transponder Ident, Autopilot track, Accutrak Autopilot, Seat warmers front
and
> back, on and on and on..... I started the system, after all instruments and all
> components were located and no fabrication except to drill for adel clamps and
> passage ways for cable. The time, 240 hours plus or minus 50 hours that could
be
> counted as other things like mounting antennas. Remember, you have to wire pins
for
> each instrument that someone hasnt made a harness for, each wire needs to be
> pre-planned, put in place and then moved a few times as the bulk grows and the
ideal
> path becomes TOO SMALL. Then you have to keep testing it, refining, fixing the
> screwups, etc. re-designing as your best plans are inadequate as the monster
> grows. Then you lay there at night thinking, "If I am going to have an autopilot
> this is the time, and so on for Wig-Wag, Cooling fan, Seat warmers, stick control
> requiring relays and special connectors and soldering 26guage wires, etc. SOOOO.
> When you are finished and you sit in your aircraft, first time hit the master
and
> then turn your instruments on and test each circuit. When you finally tune your
> radio to the local freq. and hear the traffic above through your own headsets,
When
> you push the button on the stick and the flap motor whines away and the radio
> frequency changes, WOW!
> It also could go Pfft! Would I do it again, You bet your #*S.
> We do these things for the feeling of accomplishment and maybe to save money
too.
> The payoff is well worth it. I have already felt like a million when someone
who
> comes by to look says, "Did you do this?" ---"Sure, it was easy, your could do
it in
> a snap".
>
> Dave Aronson
> RV4 N504RV
> Flying real SOOOON
>
>
> Bill VonDane wrote:
>
>
>>--> RV-List message posted by: Bill VonDane <n8wv@vondane.com>
>>
>>Anyone out there keep track of exactly how long (how many hours) it took them
to
>>wire their RV?
>>
>>Thanks!
>>
>>-Bill VonDane
>>RV-8A ~ 86.5 hrs
>>www.vondane.com
>>
>>do not archive
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: My 7A QB Kit arrived at Vans |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Karie Daniel" <karied4@attbi.com>
This sort of talk makes me nervious! I know there are other 7 builders
lurking out there that have been waiting. Well forget it, I made the nice
lady at Vans walk out to the shipping container with my kit in and spray
paint my name on it.
Do not archive
Karie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com>
Subject: RE: RV-List: My 7A QB Kit arrived at Vans
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com>
>
> Yea, Karie. They might sell it to someone else between now and the 10th.
>
> Terry
>
> Do not archive
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "John Starn" <jhstarn@earthlink.net>
>
> Anybody want to start a pool to pick the date he really goes to pick up
the
> kit ? Wait untill the 10th, no way Jose. I'll put in a buck for 1-29-03.
> KABONG Do Not Archive.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Karie Daniel" <karied4@attbi.com>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV-List: My 7A QB Kit arrived at Vans
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> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Karie Daniel" <karied4@attbi.com>
> >
> > I got a call today from Vans telling me my 7A QB kit is ready to be
picked
> up. Almost two months early! I'll be driving down from Issaquah Washington
> on the 10th to pick it up.
> >
> > Karie Daniel
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Carpet attachment? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Randall Henderson" <randallh@attbi.com>
> Good question - but I haven't weighed the hardboard (the only real
> increment over sticking carpet to the bare floor) so I cannot say for
sure.
[snip]
Hardboard. Hmmm. I'd really reconsider that one. A few pounds here, a few
pounds there, eventually you end up like me with 37 POUNDS worth of interior
panels, seats, carpets, etc. -- and that's WITHOUT any hardboard! Ever since
I stuck that heavy (but admittedly very pretty and comfy) interior in my
plane, I've spent a lot of time trying to trim ounces off wherever I can.
It's not that I want to haul a lot of baggage around. But every extra pound
really does rob the plane of some of its crisp, snappy flying qualities.
Take those floorboards for example -- why not just use .032 AL? It may seem
kind of thin for standing on, but think about it -- there's carpet on the
top and insulation underneath to support -- shoot, .025 would probably even
work.
I recommend reading Don Wentzs' missive "An Aviordupois Dilemma", in the
RVator (3rd issue 2002.) Good wisdom from a guy who's had firsthand
experience with both a heavy and light RV.
Randall Henderson, RV-6 N6R (~450 hrs)
Portland, OR
www.vanshomewing.org
PS. have you flame-tested that sleeping pad? : - }
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