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1. 12:43 AM - For Sale: WigWag Flasher II (Bob Haan unit) (czechsix@juno.com)
2. 02:06 AM - Re: Little washers in tight places (Tom & Cathy Ervin)
3. 03:50 AM - Re: RV8 semi quick build kit for sale (jim)
4. 04:09 AM - Re: Little washers in tight places (Alex Peterson)
5. 04:17 AM - Re: Little washers in tight places (Steve J Hurlbut)
6. 05:14 AM - Re: tip tanks (Smcm75@aol.com)
7. 05:18 AM - Re: Little washers in tight places (Cy Galley)
8. 05:33 AM - Re: Little washers in tight places ()
9. 05:37 AM - Re: Little washers in tight places (Daniel J Swanson)
10. 05:38 AM - Rudder trim (John Furey)
11. 06:39 AM - Re: Rudder trim (RGray67968@aol.com)
12. 06:59 AM - Re: Little washers in tight places (lucky macy)
13. 07:06 AM - Re: Need a Wemac eye ball vent (DJB6A@cs.com)
14. 07:07 AM - Re: Need a Wemac eye ball vent (DJB6A@cs.com)
15. 07:12 AM - Re: Landing/taxi lts on tail dragger (Finn Lassen)
16. 07:33 AM - Re: Landing/taxi lts on tail dragger (Van Artsdalen, Scott)
17. 07:35 AM - Re: Little washers in tight places (Elsa & Henry)
18. 07:43 AM - Fw: Little washers in tight places (C. Rabaut)
19. 08:03 AM - >Re: Little washers in tight places (Oldsfolks@aol.com)
20. 08:11 AM - Re: tip tanks (Konrad Werner)
21. 08:38 AM - Re: Little washers in tight places (Van Artsdalen, Scott)
22. 08:39 AM - Re: Landing/taxi lts on tail dragger (Van Artsdalen, Scott)
23. 08:50 AM - Re: Little washers in tight places (Mark Phillips)
24. 09:34 AM - Re: Little washers in tight places ***TAIL WASHERS*** (kempthornes)
25. 10:14 AM - VS wiring (Mark Antenbring)
26. 11:07 AM - Re: Rudder trim (John Furey)
27. 11:25 AM - Re: Little washers in tight places ***TAIL WASHERS*** (Elsa & Henry)
28. 11:28 AM - Microair Piggyback module (Mark Phillips)
29. 11:36 AM - Re: Little washers in tight places (Vince Himsl)
30. 12:00 PM - Re: Microair Piggyback module ()
31. 12:03 PM - Re: Microair Piggyback module (Jim Jewell)
32. 12:11 PM - Century I help (Don R Jordan)
33. 12:13 PM - Gluing washers together (GEORGE INMAN)
34. 12:19 PM - Re: VS wiring (Ralph E. Capen)
35. 12:22 PM - Constitutionality of FAA/TSA rule 14293 (Wiethe, Philip (P.J.))
36. 12:26 PM - Re: VS wiring (Jim Jewell)
37. 01:13 PM - Re: Constitutionality of FAA/TSA rule 14293 (Hal Rozema)
38. 02:06 PM - Wiring Diagram KX155 (Chuck Weyant)
39. 02:16 PM - Re: RV8 semi quick build kit for sale (MORGAN HETRICK)
40. 02:16 PM - Fw: Constitutionality of FAA/TSA rule 14293 (C. Rabaut)
41. 03:03 PM - Re: Constitutionality of FAA/TSA rule 14293 (Van Artsdalen, Scott)
42. 03:08 PM - Odyssey Battery (Chuck Weyant)
43. 03:47 PM - Odyssey Battery (Chuck Weyant)
44. 03:48 PM - Fw: Constitutionality of FAA/TSA rule 14293 (C. Rabaut)
45. 04:23 PM - Re: Odyssey Battery (Gary Zilik)
46. 04:28 PM - Re: Constitutionality of FAA/TSA rule 14293 (Joshua Siler)
47. 05:01 PM - Re: Constitutionality of FAA/TSA rule 14293 (Tedd McHenry)
48. 05:01 PM - Re: RV8 semi quick build kit for sale (Konrad Werner)
49. 05:43 PM - Re: Little washers in tight places (cecilth@juno.com)
50. 05:43 PM - Re: Constitutionality of FAA/TSA rule 14293 (Charlie & Tupper England)
51. 07:32 PM - > Re: Landing/taxi lts. on taildragger (Oldsfolks@aol.com)
52. 07:59 PM - oiling drill and rivet gun (Will & Lynda Allen)
53. 08:07 PM - Re: RV8-List: oiling drill and rivet gun (Michael D. Crowe)
54. 08:17 PM - Re: Little washers in tight places (Jim Bean)
55. 08:18 PM - Re: Constitutionality of FAA/TSA rule 14293 (Mark Phillips)
56. 08:36 PM - Re: oiling drill and rivet gun (Karie Daniel)
57. 08:46 PM - Re: oiling drill and rivet gun (Konrad Werner)
58. 10:23 PM - Re: oiling drill and rivet gun (Jim Jewell)
59. 10:37 PM - Re: oiling drill and rivet gun (Jim Jewell)
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| Subject: | For Sale: WigWag Flasher II (Bob Haan unit) |
--> RV-List message posted by: czechsix@juno.com
Guys,
Is anyone interested in saving a few bucks on Bob Haan's WigWag Flasher
II? I purchased one a few weeks ago and changed my mind, deciding not to
use it. There's nothing wrong with it and it is new in box, uninstalled.
Bob takes returns but charges a 15% restocking fee. If you get it from
him it will cost you $156 including shipping. If anybody wants this one
before I return it to Bob, I'll let it go for $140 *including shipping*
anywhere in the U.S.
If you want to see the specs on it go to the website at:
http://users.easystreet.com/bhaan/wigwag.pdf
It's a nice solid state unit with all the features you could want...bulb
warmer, LED indicators, multiple modes, etc...and can be controlled via
low power switches from a stick grip if you like.
--Mark Navratil
Cedar Rapids, Iowa
RV-8A N2D might finish someday if I could make up my mind what to
install....
Do Not Archive
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| Subject: | Re: Little washers in tight places |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tom & Cathy Ervin" <tcervin@valkyrie.net>
Cleveland Aircraft sells a tool that holds washers in place almost like a
3rd hand.
Tom in Ohio
----- Original Message -----
From: "Geoff Evans" <hellothaimassage@yahoo.com>
Subject: RV-List: Little washers in tight places
> --> RV-List message posted by: Geoff Evans <hellothaimassage@yahoo.com>
>
> Can anyone share their tricks for getting little washers into tight places
> without dropping them?
>
> For example, the washers used as spacers in the aileron and elevator
mounting
> brackets. It takes me a really long time to get washers on the bolts
inside the
> mounting brackets. There has to be a better (easier) way to do this that
> doesn't involve as much cursing...
>
> -Geoff
>
> RV-8 QB
> Wings
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RV8 semi quick build kit for sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: "jim" <jntambs@voyager.net>
Hi Wayne and List,
Yea, I forgot to put my location on the original email. I live in Michigan, small
town called West Branch. It would be better if someone lived closer and was
interested as the shipping could get expensive. I have construction pics and
plan to take some more this week, if there are any serious inquiries I would
be happy to email them.
Please email me to contact me, I have subscribed to the digest form of the list
so I won't get real time emails on the list.
Thanks,
Jim
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| Subject: | Little washers in tight places |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@usjet.net>
>
> Can anyone share their tricks for getting little washers into
> tight places without dropping them?
>
Use fuel lube or the EZ Turn equivalent. Works wonders. Sometimes put
it on a screwdriver, sometimes on your finger, whatever.
Alex Peterson
Maple Grove, MN
RV6-A N66AP 251 hours
www.usfamily.net/web/alexpeterson
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| Subject: | Re: Little washers in tight places |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Steve J Hurlbut" <sjhdcl@kingston.net>
I start by using the next smaller size bolt. If the plans call for AN4-x
bolt I start with AN3-x. Put it through
the area insert the washers and then put the actual size bolt in from the
other side. Washers can still be a
bit tricky but easier with the smaller bolt. If the plans call for AN3-x
bolt I usually use a smaller piece
of rod to start.
Steve
RV7A
canopy frame & wiring
----- Original Message -----
From: "Geoff Evans" <hellothaimassage@yahoo.com>
Subject: RV-List: Little washers in tight places
> --> RV-List message posted by: Geoff Evans <hellothaimassage@yahoo.com>
>
> Can anyone share their tricks for getting little washers into tight places
> without dropping them?
>
> For example, the washers used as spacers in the aileron and elevator
mounting
> brackets. It takes me a really long time to get washers on the bolts
inside the
> mounting brackets. There has to be a better (easier) way to do this that
> doesn't involve as much cursing...
>
> -Geoff
>
> RV-8 QB
> Wings
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: Smcm75@aol.com
In a message dated 1/28/03 11:33:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, 315@cox.net
writes:
> HI Dan,
>
> I may be mistaken but I think that the wing TIp Tanks you quoted from Vans
> are not for the RV7 but only the 6 style wing tip. I don't think anyone
> has
> tip tanks available yet for the 7...???
>
> Ned
>
I am developing an external removable belly tank and cargo pod that will fit
the 4, 6, 7, 8, 9,
Scott Morrow
RV-6A
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| Subject: | Re: Little washers in tight places |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
One easy way is to do a trial assembly to find out what washers you need and
on which side. Then disassemble. "superglue" the washers to the inside of
the brackets using the right size bolt to align them. Then carefully
re-assemble. Super glue holds the washers in place while you insert the
bolts.
Cy Galley, TC - Chair, Emergency Aircraft Repair, Oshkosh
Editor, EAA Safety Programs
cgalley@qcbc.org or experimenter@eaa.org
Always looking for articles for the Experimenter
----- Original Message -----
From: "Geoff Evans" <hellothaimassage@yahoo.com>
Subject: RV-List: Little washers in tight places
> --> RV-List message posted by: Geoff Evans <hellothaimassage@yahoo.com>
>
> Can anyone share their tricks for getting little washers into tight places
> without dropping them?
>
> For example, the washers used as spacers in the aileron and elevator
mounting
> brackets. It takes me a really long time to get washers on the bolts
inside the
> mounting brackets. There has to be a better (easier) way to do this that
> doesn't involve as much cursing...
>
> -Geoff
>
> RV-8 QB
> Wings
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Little washers in tight places |
--> RV-List message posted by: <ktlkrn@cox.net>
I agree with Cy on this one. As a modeler I've got several flavors of CA
glue around. If you buy some buy the thicker stuff as it is easier to work
with. I simply put a very small drop on the washer and place it against the
appropriate part. After assembly you the washer can be broken loose to serve
its appropriate function.
Darwin N. Barrie
Stellar Airpark
Chandler AZ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Geoff Evans" <hellothaimassage@yahoo.com>
Subject: RV-List: Little washers in tight places
> --> RV-List message posted by: Geoff Evans <hellothaimassage@yahoo.com>
>
> Can anyone share their tricks for getting little washers into tight places
> without dropping them?
>
> For example, the washers used as spacers in the aileron and elevator
mounting
> brackets. It takes me a really long time to get washers on the bolts
inside the
> mounting brackets. There has to be a better (easier) way to do this that
> doesn't involve as much cursing...
>
> -Geoff
>
> RV-8 QB
> Wings
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Little washers in tight places |
--> RV-List message posted by: Daniel J Swanson <dswanson@voyager.net>
There is a great tool for this. It is called the Wa-Ranch. (Washer Wrench)
Check it out at.
http://www.aircraftsupportequ.com/warench.html
Dan
>Time: 10:33:10 PM PST US
>From: Geoff Evans <hellothaimassage@yahoo.com>
>Subject: RV-List: Little washers in tight places
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: Geoff Evans <hellothaimassage@yahoo.com>
>
>Can anyone share their tricks for getting little washers into tight places
>without dropping them?
>
>For example, the washers used as spacers in the aileron and elevator mounting
>brackets. It takes me a really long time to get washers on the bolts
>inside the
>mounting brackets. There has to be a better (easier) way to do this that
>doesn't involve as much cursing...
>
>-Geoff
>
>RV-8 QB
>Wings
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--> RV-List message posted by: "John Furey" <john@fureychrysler.com>
What are you guys using for a rudder trim and how are you attaching it to the rudder?
Any pictures?
Best wishes,
John
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--> RV-List message posted by: RGray67968@aol.com
Hi John,
I didn't like the rudder tab so I put springs on my pedals like my
Kitfox had. They connect from the cable bolts to the firewall, one on each
side. Pulled the spring on the right side a little tighter. It took a little
trial and error but now it's pretty close. This also keeps your rudder from
flapping in the breeze and keeps your cables taught when parked on the ramp.
Tried to get a hold of you a couple times to have lunch or go flying
but no luck???
Rick Gray RV6 in Ohio at the Buffalo Farm
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| Subject: | Re: Little washers in tight places |
--> RV-List message posted by: "lucky macy" <luckymacy@hotmail.com>
a little CA glue on the edge of a washer will firmly attach it to a screw
driver tip and you can manipulate any angle you want from that.
>From: Geoff Evans <hellothaimassage@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV-List: Little washers in tight places
>Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 22:31:33 -0800 (PST)
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: Geoff Evans <hellothaimassage@yahoo.com>
>
>Can anyone share their tricks for getting little washers into tight places
>without dropping them?
>
>For example, the washers used as spacers in the aileron and elevator
>mounting
>brackets. It takes me a really long time to get washers on the bolts inside
>the
>mounting brackets. There has to be a better (easier) way to do this that
>doesn't involve as much cursing...
>
>-Geoff
>
>RV-8 QB
>Wings
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Need a Wemac eye ball vent |
--> RV-List message posted by: DJB6A@cs.com
Hello Rick,
Thanks for your response. Unfortunately that is too large, the 2133 fits in a
1 15/16 hole.
Kind regards,
Dave Burnham
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| Subject: | Re: Need a Wemac eye ball vent |
--> RV-List message posted by: DJB6A@cs.com
Hello Larry,
Thanks for the lead, I will give it a try - sure got nothing to lose.
Kind regards,
Dave Burnham
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| Subject: | Re: Landing/taxi lts on tail dragger |
--> RV-List message posted by: Finn Lassen <finnlassen@netzero.net>
On the landing light, one might think that positioning the fuselage in
level flight position and adjusting the landing light is the way to go.
It's not. Just before touch-down you're in a flare (unless doing wheel
landings), so adjusting the landing light with tail down is probably
better. Unless, of course, you have super bright landing lights that
will illuminate the runway 1/2 mile away.
Finn
Frank Smidler wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Frank Smidler <smidler@dcwi.com>
>
>To the flyers who drag thier tails at night, how do you have your landing and
taxi lights aimed? Is
>it neccessary to have the taxi light aimed down more then the landing light to
get good effect on
>both? Is it neccessary to shut off the high aimed landing light when taxing in
order not to blind
>other planes?
>
>A second issue I have, is it advisable to seperate the position light switch and
the instrument
>light switch? I was thinking of using one switch (two seperate circuits) to turn
them on at the
>same time. To anyone who has an AEC dimmer, I assume that it does not have an
off function, just a
>brightness function. Can you confirm this.
>
>Frank Smidler
>RV-6
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Landing/taxi lts on tail dragger |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen, Scott" <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
My lights are wired on all the time. Just turned up or down via the dimmer.
-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Smidler [mailto:smidler@dcwi.com]
Subject: RV-List: Landing/taxi lts on tail dragger
--> RV-List message posted by: Frank Smidler <smidler@dcwi.com>
To the flyers who drag thier tails at night, how do you have your landing
and taxi lights aimed? Is
it neccessary to have the taxi light aimed down more then the landing light
to get good effect on
both? Is it neccessary to shut off the high aimed landing light when taxing
in order not to blind
other planes?
A second issue I have, is it advisable to seperate the position light switch
and the instrument
light switch? I was thinking of using one switch (two seperate circuits) to
turn them on at the
same time. To anyone who has an AEC dimmer, I assume that it does not have
an off function, just a
brightness function. Can you confirm this.
Frank Smidler
RV-6
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| Subject: | Re: Little washers in tight places |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Elsa & Henry" <elsa-henry@darlor-watch.com>
I Made a bunch of .025 aluminum strips, 1/2" to 3/4" wide, out scrap to hold
all sorts of things as a third hand. What I did was make a "U" shaped slot
on the end of each strip so that a washer would be a tight fit in that slot,
but filed a bit wider near the top and sides of the "U" so that the washer
would snap in there and stay in place until you fed it to its final location
and got the bolt through. The example of the bolting of the ailerons to
their bearings is a good one because you can't get any wide tools in there.
That is also true of connecting the control rods to the stick/control
column.
Where two or more washers in series are required, I used "Krazy Glue" (Super
Glue) to hold them together. I also used that glue in locations to hold the
washer to the bolt head.- Example: The bolts that hold the wing's out-board
nose-ribs to the main spar had to have their washers next to the bolt head
filed with a flat to clear the rib's web at several locations My manual
(~1995) also stated that it may be necessary to also file the bolt head. NOT
a good practice! Luckily I was able to circumvent that! So I lined-up the
washer-flat with a bolt-flat, applied a drop of glue and marked the head
with an arrow so I could position it correctly when looking through from the
tip-rib with a mirror taped to stick. Worked fine!
Cheers!!-------Henry Hore (RV6-A C-GELS)
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| Subject: | Little washers in tight places |
--> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
Geoff,
Well I find that just stickin' the washer on a piece of tape always
works for me. But I suppose you could buy a "washer wrench"...
Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: Geoff Evans <hellothaimassage@yahoo.com>
Subject: RV-List: Little washers in tight places
> --> RV-List message posted by: Geoff Evans <hellothaimassage@yahoo.com>
>
> Can anyone share their tricks for getting little washers into tight places
> without dropping them?
>
> For example, the washers used as spacers in the aileron and elevator
mounting
> brackets. It takes me a really long time to get washers on the bolts
inside the
> mounting brackets. There has to be a better (easier) way to do this that
> doesn't involve as much cursing...
>
> -Geoff
>
> RV-8 QB
> Wings
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: >Re: Little washers in tight places |
--> RV-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com
I use a ' Hemo-stat' to get the washer close and then a strip of aluminum
about 1/2" wide with a ' VEE ' cut on the side to work the washer up into
place .
If you keep paying the Preacher , curse words aren't necessary !
Better Still ; see the "Wa-Wrench' , as another advised - I'm ordering that;
soon as my wife loses count of the checks I have !
Bob Olds A&P , EAA Tech. Counselor
RV-4 , N1191X , Flying Now
Charleston, Arkansas
"Real Aviators Fly Taildraggers"
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Konrad Werner" <Connywerner@wans.net>
Dear Ned,
Tip tanks are not available (yet?) from anyone in the shape of the newer
sheared tips, as far as I know. However, before the introduction of the
sheared tips (on the -9a I think), the Hoerner style was used as the
standard, so they should STILL FIT FINE from the -4 to the -8, which
includes also the, you guessed it, -SEVEN!
There is no such thing as ". . . only the 6 style wingtip", but it is
rather Vans OLD ones, versus Vans NEW ones (which I could put on my -6a
wings, if I would care to go a bit slower by installing them). No offense
to the Sheared Tip Guy's & Gal's, but I do prefer the flat tops myself.
Therefore: There are Tip-Tanks available for the -7, and they are in the
form of the old Style Hoerner Tips.
BTW, I have a set of the factory TipTank's (for the enclosed Whelen 650's),
and the quality of workmanship is outstandingly fine.
Konrad
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: <315@cox.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: tip tanks
> --> RV-List message posted by: <315@cox.net>
>
> HI Dan,
>
> I may be mistaken but I think that the wing TIp Tanks you quoted from Vans
> are not for the RV7 but only the 6 style wing tip. I don't think anyone
has
> tip tanks available yet for the 7...???
>
> Ned
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: RV-List: tip tanks
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
> >
> > > Can anyone send me a link to a company that makes tip tanks for the
RV7
> > And 8?
> > > Thanks
> > > DOC
> >
> > http://www.vansaircraft.com
> >
> > TANK, WINGTIP/EXT TANK W/EXT A650 LIGHT $2230.00
> > TANK, WINGTIP/EXT-A TANK W/EXT A650 LIGHT $2230.00
> > TANK, WINGTIP/INT TANK W/INT A650 LIGHT $2275.00
> > TANK, WINGTIP/INT-A TANK W/INT A650 LIGHT $2275.00
> >
> > )_( Dan
> > RV-7 N714D (fuselage/finish)
> > http://www.rvproject.com
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Little washers in tight places |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen, Scott" <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
Fuel lube on the washer(s) and on my finger worked for me.
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| Subject: | Landing/taxi lts on tail dragger |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen, Scott" <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
Should have said my instrument lights are on all the time.
-----Original Message-----
From: Van Artsdalen, Scott [mailto:svanarts@unionsafe.com]
Subject: RE: RV-List: Landing/taxi lts on tail dragger
--> RV-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen, Scott"
<svanarts@unionsafe.com>
My lights are wired on all the time. Just turned up or down via the dimmer.
-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Smidler [mailto:smidler@dcwi.com]
Subject: RV-List: Landing/taxi lts on tail dragger
--> RV-List message posted by: Frank Smidler <smidler@dcwi.com>
To the flyers who drag thier tails at night, how do you have your landing
and taxi lights aimed? Is
it neccessary to have the taxi light aimed down more then the landing light
to get good effect on
both? Is it neccessary to shut off the high aimed landing light when taxing
in order not to blind
other planes?
A second issue I have, is it advisable to seperate the position light switch
and the instrument
light switch? I was thinking of using one switch (two seperate circuits) to
turn them on at the
same time. To anyone who has an AEC dimmer, I assume that it does not have
an off function, just a
brightness function. Can you confirm this.
Frank Smidler
RV-6
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| Subject: | Re: Little washers in tight places |
--> RV-List message posted by: Mark Phillips <ripsteel@edge.net>
Forceps- lots of uses! Bought several of different sizes, some bent,
some straight at one of the toolmongers at OSH last year and glad I did!
From The PossumWorks in TN
Mark
Geoff Evans wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Geoff Evans <hellothaimassage@yahoo.com>
>
> Can anyone share their tricks for getting little washers into tight places
> without dropping them?
>
> For example, the washers used as spacers in the aileron and elevator mounting
> brackets. It takes me a really long time to get washers on the bolts inside the
> mounting brackets. There has to be a better (easier) way to do this that
> doesn't involve as much cursing...
>
> -Geoff
>
> RV-8 QB
> Wings
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Little washers in tight places ***TAIL WASHERS*** |
--> RV-List message posted by: kempthornes <kempthornes@earthlink.net>
At 10:31 PM 1/28/2003 -0800, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Geoff Evans <hellothaimassage@yahoo.com>
>
>Can anyone share their tricks for getting little washers into tight places
>without dropping them?
What a lot of neat tricks but why not just use tail washers??? Spruce has
them. Tail is about 2 inches long, pulls off after install.
K. H. (Hal) Kempthorne
RV6-a N7HK flying!
PRB (El Paso de Robles, CA)
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--> RV-List message posted by: Mark Antenbring <mantenbring@pangaeainc.com>
I'm just finishing up the Vertical Stab, and the instructions say to
optionally put wiring in for lighting before riveting on the rear spar. Gee,
I didn't thing I was supposed to deal with wiring at this early stage. What
is the aviation "standard" location for anti-collision or position lights on
the tail? Also, If I do run some wires, the hole through the tip rib seems
very small -- do I need to line the hole with a grommet?
Mark
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--> RV-List message posted by: "John Furey" <john@fureychrysler.com>
Thanks for the reply, I like your idea. Be sure to call me on my cell phone
the next time you want to play.
330-592-4944 cell
330-863-2524 home
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| Subject: | Re: Little washers in tight places ***TAIL WASHERS*** |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Elsa & Henry" <elsa-henry@darlor-watch.com>
Why spend more $$ on "tail" washers when the ones in the kit are already
paid for---Are they AN or MS types?. I forgot to mention that I also use "U"
slotted strips, with the "U" longer so that it can be bent around to hold
nuts too! Are there "tail" nuts too?
Cheers!!-----Henry Hore.
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RV-list <rv-list@matronics.com>
| Subject: | Microair Piggyback module |
--> RV-List message posted by: Mark Phillips <ripsteel@edge.net>
Some time ago I saw reference to a small "box" that you could attach to
the side of a Microair 760 comm radio, plug right in, and eliminate the
PTT for the intercom, among other features. (can't find my links!) I
thought it was on the X-air site at http://www.mcp.com.au/ but have dug
around there and other Microair related sites with no joy. I also
contacted MCP.COM by e-mail for info.
Anybody used one of these things or know some other way to get rid of
the PTT for intercom on the Microair radios?
Thanks from The PossumWorks
Mark do not archive
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| Subject: | Little washers in tight places |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Vince Himsl" <vhimsl@turbonet.com>
Take a scap piece of wood...popsicle stick will do and attach some
double stick tape (sticky on both sides). If you want to get
sophisticated, notch the stick to look like an open ended wrench so that
you can bottom out the washer and pull the stick out of the way.
Variation of principle works with the nuts too. Use nylon ties to fasten
a small open end/box wrench to a small dowel, etc. to start nuts in hard
to reach places.
Time to build: 5 minutes (1 to build and 4 to find the tape)
Cost: @ $0.00
Vince Himsl
RV8 Fuselage SB
Moscow, ID USA
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Geoff Evans
Subject: RV-List: Little washers in tight places
--> RV-List message posted by: Geoff Evans <hellothaimassage@yahoo.com>
Can anyone share their tricks for getting little washers into tight
places
without dropping them?
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| Subject: | Re: Microair Piggyback module |
--> RV-List message posted by: <315@cox.net>
Hi Mark,
Check out the following link:
http://www.mcp.com.au/xcom760/intercom.html
It shows a piggy back intercom on the Microair. Just scroll about half way
down.
Ned
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Phillips" <ripsteel@edge.net>
<rv-list@matronics.com>
Subject: RV-List: Microair Piggyback module
> --> RV-List message posted by: Mark Phillips <ripsteel@edge.net>
>
> Some time ago I saw reference to a small "box" that you could attach to
> the side of a Microair 760 comm radio, plug right in, and eliminate the
> PTT for the intercom, among other features. (can't find my links!) I
> thought it was on the X-air site at http://www.mcp.com.au/ but have dug
> around there and other Microair related sites with no joy. I also
> contacted MCP.COM by e-mail for info.
>
> Anybody used one of these things or know some other way to get rid of
> the PTT for intercom on the Microair radios?
>
> Thanks from The PossumWorks
> Mark do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Microair Piggyback module |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net>
Mark,
Try the Xcom site< http://www.mcp.com.au/xcom760/intercom.html >.
Jim in Kelowna
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Phillips" <ripsteel@edge.net>
<rv-list@matronics.com>
Subject: RV-List: Microair Piggyback module
> --> RV-List message posted by: Mark Phillips <ripsteel@edge.net>
>
> Some time ago I saw reference to a small "box" that you could attach to
> the side of a Microair 760 comm radio, plug right in, and eliminate the
> PTT for the intercom, among other features. (can't find my links!) I
> thought it was on the X-air site at http://www.mcp.com.au/ but have dug
> around there and other Microair related sites with no joy. I also
> contacted MCP.COM by e-mail for info.
>
> Anybody used one of these things or know some other way to get rid of
> the PTT for intercom on the Microair radios?
>
> Thanks from The PossumWorks
> Mark do not archive
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: Don R Jordan <dons6a@juno.com>
I do not have a wiring diagram or other install information.
> If anyone
> can help with these, please contact me off-list. Also, I need the
> connector
> for the servo.
>
> Jim Van Laak
> RV-3 N112RV
********************************
Jim:
You can download a copy of the wiring diagram from
Centuryflightsystems.com
I bought the service manual, but unless I get a EE degree will not use
it. It was $58.00 if you want it.
Now on the certifies types, they put a relay in line so the low current
switch on the control wheel can disconnect it.
You can short ago two wires & not use it. I ran the power for the servo
through a switch on the panel.
Only difference is I will disconnect for a turn & then reconnect. Saves
weight, although I didn't get the relay with the unit & anything you get
from Century is priced like Gold.
The drawing shows all the connectors. Century uses "standard connectors".
By that i mean most radios shops can get them for you.
The 52D75-3 does not have a Tracker board & the -4 does. The M suffix
means it has internal lighting.
I got one of those good deals used. I never got around to installing the
servo. Since May I can't find time to do anything but FLY.
It lasted 10 hours & the gyro died. Century wants $1100.00 for an
exchange. The servo looks large for the area under the seat but I think
it can be done.
I plan on getting a Navaide, I think their gyro is $200.00 when it goes.
Don Jordan - RV6A - N6DJ
Arlington, Tx
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| Subject: | Gluing washers together |
--> RV-List message posted by: "GEORGE INMAN" <ghinman@attcanada.ca>
Can anyone share their tricks for getting little washers into tight places
without dropping them?
For example, the washers used as spacers in the aileron and elevator mounting
brackets. It takes me a really long time to get washers on the bolts inside the
mounting brackets. There has to be a better (easier) way to do this that
doesn't involve as much cursing...
-Geoff
RV-8 QB
Put the washers on a bolt to hold them together.Then put
glue on the outside of the rivets to hold them together.
"Goop" glue works good for this.
ghinman@attcanada.ca
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
Mark,
There are two types of wiring to be considered here...lighting and antenna. In
my case, I have the triple lights (position fwd grn/red, white aft, and strobe)
mounted on my wingtips so I don't need lights aft. All I need is a NAV antenna.
If you are putting a light in the tail it would normally go on the bottom
of the rudder with a strobe built in or the strobe on top of the elevator.
If you're wiring lighting back there, you'll have low power for the white and
high power for the strobe...don't forget adequate bonding/grounding.
I ran an antenna wire up forward of the forward VS spar with a standoff at the
center rib (there isn't a forward rib there) with three grommets in the unibitted
tooling holes in the top anb bottom ribs and the standoff. I also built a
hat section to mount the antenna on with a backing plate for the top rib. Before
I closed it up, I ran a string through the three grommets...I have since
installed my antenna on top of the VS tip rib (it fits inside the VS cap except
for the two whiskers and the wiring ran through very easily.
Digital pictures - I got a few...contact me offline.
FWIW - I'm building an early tail 6A, if you have a later version tail...your mileage
will vary!
Ralph Capen
-------Original Message-------
From: Mark Antenbring <mantenbring@pangaeainc.com>
Subject: RV-List: VS wiring
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Mark Antenbring <mantenbring@pangaeainc.com>
I'm just finishing up the Vertical Stab, and the instructions say to
optionally put wiring in for lighting before riveting on the rear spar.
Gee,
I didn't thing I was supposed to deal with wiring at this early stage.
What
is the aviation "standard" location for anti-collision or position lights
on
the tail? Also, If I do run some wires, the hole through the tip rib seems
very small -- do I need to line the hole with a grommet?
Mark
>
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| Subject: | Constitutionality of FAA/TSA rule 14293 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Wiethe, Philip (P.J.)" <pwiethe@ford.com>
As much as I don't like playing devil's advocate somewhat on this issue, I feel
the need to make some comments. I have read many of the comments on the government
site and see many arguments against the arbitrary revocation of an Airman
certificate as a violation of a constitutional 'right'. In this context, holding
an Airman's certificate is really a 'privilege', and not a 'right'. Constitutionally
speaking, there is no defined 'right' to be able to fly a plane.
By the fact that an individual must meet certain criteria to be able to legally
hold an Airman's certificate (read, write, speak English, be of certain
medical condition, go through training and a passing a test standards, etc.) also
proves this point. A constitutional right would not have a set of standards
that need to be met by the individual for it to be valid. While some may argue
that flying should be a 'right', I think the majority of us would have to
agree that there needs to be some set of qualificat!
ion standards to be given the green-light to fly a plane in this country, thus,
relegating the act to 'privilege' status. Accordingly, however, the regulation/approval/denial
of this should be fair and open, and that is what I think we
should be lobbying for, and not trying to argue a case on the issue of constitutionality.
Phil
8a wings
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net>
Hi Mark,
Way back when, (1997) I came upon the same question so I drilled holes in
the ribs installed grommets and installed a piece of plastic tubing for any
possible future wiring needs. I made the vert. stab. tip removable for
access to the area.
You might decide to install an antennae or a strobe up there.
As things stand now (doing wiring) I don't expect to use the vertical stab
tip to mount anything.
My opinion is that a strobe up there could be more annoying than useful.
Antennas elsewhere will fulfill my needs for now.
I will leave the tubing in place for now. Things can still be changed.
Jim in Kelowna
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Antenbring" <mantenbring@pangaeainc.com>
Subject: RV-List: VS wiring
> --> RV-List message posted by: Mark Antenbring
<mantenbring@pangaeainc.com>
>
> I'm just finishing up the Vertical Stab, and the instructions say to
> optionally put wiring in for lighting before riveting on the rear spar.
Gee,
> I didn't thing I was supposed to deal with wiring at this early stage.
What
> is the aviation "standard" location for anti-collision or position lights
on
> the tail? Also, If I do run some wires, the hole through the tip rib seems
> very small -- do I need to line the hole with a grommet?
> Mark
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Constitutionality of FAA/TSA rule 14293 |
--> RV-List message posted by: Hal Rozema <hartist1@cox.net>
The constitutional aspect only comes into question when you are attacked by an
unseen, unnamed part of a government agency, without stipulation of charges, or
the source or person raising those charges, and without recourse, hearing, appeal
or avenue to reinstatement if provably wrongly based. Am I wrong?
Hal Rozema
"Wiethe, Philip (P.J.)" wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Wiethe, Philip (P.J.)" <pwiethe@ford.com>
>
> As much as I don't like playing devil's advocate somewhat on this issue, I feel
the need to make some comments. I have read many of the comments on the government
site and see many arguments against the arbitrary revocation of an Airman
certificate as a violation of a constitutional 'right'. In this context,
holding an Airman's certificate is really a 'privilege', and not a 'right'.
Constitutionally speaking, there is no defined 'right' to be able to fly a plane.
By the fact that an individual must meet certain criteria to be able to
legally hold an Airman's certificate (read, write, speak English, be of certain
medical condition, go through training and a passing a test standards, etc.)
also proves this point. A constitutional right would not have a set of standards
that need to be met by the individual for it to be valid. While some may
argue that flying should be a 'right', I think the majority of us would have
to agree that there needs to be some set of qualificat!
> ion standards to be given the green-light to fly a plane in this country, thus,
relegating the act to 'privilege' status. Accordingly, however, the regulation/approval/denial
of this should be fair and open, and that is what I think
we should be lobbying for, and not trying to argue a case on the issue of constitutionality.
>
> Phil
> 8a wings
>
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| Subject: | Wiring Diagram KX155 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Chuck Weyant" <chuck@chuckdirect.com>
I need a wiring connector diagram for a King KX155 and for the Collins Glideslop/Localizer
IND351 (SN6387).
Thanks
Chuck Weyant (RV9A Instrument Panel)
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| Subject: | Re: RV8 semi quick build kit for sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: "MORGAN HETRICK" <morgan@heifercreek.com>
Is it a 747 or a J-3?
----- Original Message -----
From: "jim" <jntambs@voyager.net>
Subject: RV-List: RV8 semi quick build kit for sale
> --> RV-List message posted by: "jim" <jntambs@voyager.net>
>
> I am selling my kit. The empennage is complete except fiberglass. The
wing is to the fuel tank stage (both wings being built simultaneously). I
have a quick build fuselage. All kits inventoried and complete. The cost
of the kits was over $17,000 excluding shipping. Workmanship is excellent,
evaluated by tech counselor. I want to get the cost of the kits out of
this. This is your chance to get a setup that is almost to the quickbuild
stage without having to wait 9 months or so.
>
> Contact initially by email:
> Jim Tambs
> jntambs@voyager.net
>
> Thanks,
> Jim
>
>
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| Subject: | Constitutionality of FAA/TSA rule 14293 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
PJ,
I beg to differ. We, as American Citizens, enjoy numerous "rights"
afforded us by the Constitution. Many, many of these "rights", which I
strongly believe ARE Constitutionally Guaranteed, have some set of
qualifications. An example would be; the right to vote, the right to an
education, the right to equal treatment under the law, the right to "fair
housing", the right to be free from discrimination, etc... etc... ad
infinitum.
If we look at these "rights" individually, we see that each has
restrictions or qualifications and even "limitations". For example the
right to vote. Age, residency, criminal history, etc... are clear
"requirements", "qualifications", "disqualifications", "limitations"; yet we
still have this "RIGHT" which is Constitutionally Guaranteed.
Now, off my soap box; And... do not archive.
Chuck
P.S. PJ, you forgot "do not archive"
----- Original Message -----
From: Wiethe, Philip (P.J.) <pwiethe@ford.com>
Subject: RV-List: Constitutionality of FAA/TSA rule 14293
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Wiethe, Philip (P.J.)" <pwiethe@ford.com>
>
> As much as I don't like playing devil's advocate somewhat on this issue, I
feel the need to make some comments. I have read many of the comments on
the government site and see many arguments against the arbitrary revocation
of an Airman certificate as a violation of a constitutional 'right'. In
this context, holding an Airman's certificate is really a 'privilege', and
not a 'right'. Constitutionally speaking, there is no defined 'right' to
be able to fly a plane. By the fact that an individual must meet certain
criteria to be able to legally hold an Airman's certificate (read, write,
speak English, be of certain medical condition, go through training and a
passing a test standards, etc.) also proves this point. A constitutional
right would not have a set of standards that need to be met by the
individual for it to be valid. While some may argue that flying should be a
'right', I think the majority of us would have to agree that there needs to
be some set of qualificat!
> ion standards to be given the green-light to fly a plane in this country,
thus, relegating the act to 'privilege' status. Accordingly, however, the
regulation/approval/denial of this should be fair and open, and that is what
I think we should be lobbying for, and not trying to argue a case on the
issue of constitutionality.
>
> Phil
> 8a wings
>
>
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| Subject: | Constitutionality of FAA/TSA rule 14293 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen, Scott" <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
Thank God we still have cops who still believe in individual rights and
don't fall into lockstep with the new police-state mentality!!
-----Original Message-----
From: C. Rabaut [mailto:crabaut@coalinga.com]
Subject: Fw: RV-List: Constitutionality of FAA/TSA rule 14293
--> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
PJ,
I beg to differ. We, as American Citizens, enjoy numerous "rights"
afforded us by the Constitution. Many, many of these "rights", which I
strongly believe ARE Constitutionally Guaranteed, have some set of
qualifications. An example would be; the right to vote, the right to an
education, the right to equal treatment under the law, the right to "fair
housing", the right to be free from discrimination, etc... etc... ad
infinitum.
If we look at these "rights" individually, we see that each has
restrictions or qualifications and even "limitations". For example the
right to vote. Age, residency, criminal history, etc... are clear
"requirements", "qualifications", "disqualifications", "limitations"; yet we
still have this "RIGHT" which is Constitutionally Guaranteed.
Now, off my soap box; And... do not archive.
Chuck
P.S. PJ, you forgot "do not archive"
----- Original Message -----
From: Wiethe, Philip (P.J.) <pwiethe@ford.com>
Subject: RV-List: Constitutionality of FAA/TSA rule 14293
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Wiethe, Philip (P.J.)" <pwiethe@ford.com>
>
> As much as I don't like playing devil's advocate somewhat on this issue, I
feel the need to make some comments. I have read many of the comments on
the government site and see many arguments against the arbitrary revocation
of an Airman certificate as a violation of a constitutional 'right'. In
this context, holding an Airman's certificate is really a 'privilege', and
not a 'right'. Constitutionally speaking, there is no defined 'right' to
be able to fly a plane. By the fact that an individual must meet certain
criteria to be able to legally hold an Airman's certificate (read, write,
speak English, be of certain medical condition, go through training and a
passing a test standards, etc.) also proves this point. A constitutional
right would not have a set of standards that need to be met by the
individual for it to be valid. While some may argue that flying should be a
'right', I think the majority of us would have to agree that there needs to
be some set of qualificat!
> ion standards to be given the green-light to fly a plane in this country,
thus, relegating the act to 'privilege' status. Accordingly, however, the
regulation/approval/denial of this should be fair and open, and that is what
I think we should be lobbying for, and not trying to argue a case on the
issue of constitutionality.
>
> Phil
> 8a wings
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Chuck Weyant" <chuck@chuckdirect.com>
I've got the Odyssey Battery box from Van's installed on my firewall. I've been
to https://www.batteries4everything.com/store/search.asp?categoryOdyssey%2C+Hawker%2C+Cyclon%2C+Genesis+Batteries&manufacturerODYSSEY
and they have three batteries for waaaaaaay less than Van's but which one? PC680,
PC680MJ, or PC680MJT? $62.55, $71.10, and $88.66 respectively. The last one
has SAE brass terminals and a metal jacket. Don't I need both of these? Second
one has metal jacket and I don't know what for terminals. Which on should
I order?
Chuck Weyant
By the way, if you're going to get one of these, you had better do it pretty quick,
the man says they are going to have a sizeable price increase in a couple
of weeks.
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Chuck Weyant" <chuck@chuckdirect.com>
Thanks all. I'm ordering the PC680 now before the price increase.
Chuck Weyant (firewall forward kit)
do not archive
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| Subject: | Constitutionality of FAA/TSA rule 14293 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
Oh, I forgot... the "right" of Freedom of Speech!!! (but you can't yell
"Hi-Jack" on a plane, or "Fire in a movie theatre, nor run into a house of
ill-repute and yell "Wife"). :-} BTW Scott, thanks for the kind word
but, don't tell some of those Goose Stepping fools I work with.
----- Original Message -----
From: Van Artsdalen, Scott <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
Subject: RE: RV-List: Constitutionality of FAA/TSA rule 14293
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen, Scott"
<svanarts@unionsafe.com>
>
> Thank God we still have cops who still believe in individual rights and
> don't fall into lockstep with the new police-state mentality!!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C. Rabaut [mailto:crabaut@coalinga.com]
> To: RV-List
> Subject: Fw: RV-List: Constitutionality of FAA/TSA rule 14293
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
>
> PJ,
>
> I beg to differ. We, as American Citizens, enjoy numerous "rights"
> afforded us by the Constitution. Many, many of these "rights", which I
> strongly believe ARE Constitutionally Guaranteed, have some set of
> qualifications. An example would be; the right to vote, the right to an
> education, the right to equal treatment under the law, the right to "fair
> housing", the right to be free from discrimination, etc... etc... ad
> infinitum.
>
> If we look at these "rights" individually, we see that each has
> restrictions or qualifications and even "limitations". For example the
> right to vote. Age, residency, criminal history, etc... are clear
> "requirements", "qualifications", "disqualifications", "limitations"; yet
we
> still have this "RIGHT" which is Constitutionally Guaranteed.
>
> Now, off my soap box; And...
>
> Chuck
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Wiethe, Philip (P.J.) <pwiethe@ford.com>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV-List: Constitutionality of FAA/TSA rule 14293
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Wiethe, Philip (P.J.)"
<pwiethe@ford.com>
> >
> > As much as I don't like playing devil's advocate somewhat on this issue,
I
> feel the need to make some comments. I have read many of the comments on
> the government site and see many arguments against the arbitrary
revocation
> of an Airman certificate as a violation of a constitutional 'right'. In
> this context, holding an Airman's certificate is really a 'privilege', and
> not a 'right'. Constitutionally speaking, there is no defined 'right' to
> be able to fly a plane. By the fact that an individual must meet certain
> criteria to be able to legally hold an Airman's certificate (read, write,
> speak English, be of certain medical condition, go through training and a
> passing a test standards, etc.) also proves this point. A constitutional
> right would not have a set of standards that need to be met by the
> individual for it to be valid. While some may argue that flying should be
a
> 'right', I think the majority of us would have to agree that there needs
to
> be some set of qualificat!
> > ion standards to be given the green-light to fly a plane in this
country,
> thus, relegating the act to 'privilege' status. Accordingly, however, the
> regulation/approval/denial of this should be fair and open, and that is
what
> I think we should be lobbying for, and not trying to argue a case on the
> issue of constitutionality.
> >
> > Phil
> > 8a wings
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Odyssey Battery |
--> RV-List message posted by: Gary Zilik <zilik@direcpc.com>
The MJ stands for Metal Jacket and this jacket is what Van's uses for
the battery box. Get the plain old PC680 for 62.55 and you'll get the
same battery as you would from Van
Gary
Chuck Weyant wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Chuck Weyant" <chuck@chuckdirect.com>
>
>I've got the Odyssey Battery box from Van's installed on my firewall. I've been
to https://www.batteries4everything.com/store/search.asp?categoryOdyssey%2C+Hawker%2C+Cyclon%2C+Genesis+Batteries&manufacturerODYSSEY
>and they have three batteries for waaaaaaay less than Van's but which one? PC680,
PC680MJ, or PC680MJT? $62.55, $71.10, and $88.66 respectively. The last
one has SAE brass terminals and a metal jacket. Don't I need both of these?
Second one has metal jacket and I don't know what for terminals. Which on should
I order?
>Chuck Weyant
>
>By the way, if you're going to get one of these, you had better do it pretty quick,
the man says they are going to have a sizeable price increase in a couple
of weeks.
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Constitutionality of FAA/TSA rule 14293 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Joshua Siler" <joshs@ninatek.com>
Absolutely correct.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hal Rozema
Subject: Re: RV-List: Constitutionality of FAA/TSA rule 14293
--> RV-List message posted by: Hal Rozema <hartist1@cox.net>
The constitutional aspect only comes into question when you are attacked
by an unseen, unnamed part of a government agency, without stipulation
of charges, or the source or person raising those charges, and without
recourse, hearing, appeal or avenue to reinstatement if provably wrongly
based. Am I wrong?
Hal Rozema
"Wiethe, Philip (P.J.)" wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Wiethe, Philip (P.J.)"
<pwiethe@ford.com>
>
> As much as I don't like playing devil's advocate somewhat on this
issue, I feel the need to make some comments. I have read many of the
comments on the government site and see many arguments against the
arbitrary revocation of an Airman certificate as a violation of a
constitutional 'right'. In this context, holding an Airman's
certificate is really a 'privilege', and not a 'right'.
Constitutionally speaking, there is no defined 'right' to be able to fly
a plane. By the fact that an individual must meet certain criteria to
be able to legally hold an Airman's certificate (read, write, speak
English, be of certain medical condition, go through training and a
passing a test standards, etc.) also proves this point. A
constitutional right would not have a set of standards that need to be
met by the individual for it to be valid. While some may argue that
flying should be a 'right', I think the majority of us would have to
agree that there needs to be some set of qualific!
at!
> ion standards to be given the green-light to fly a plane in this
country, thus, relegating the act to 'privilege' status. Accordingly,
however, the regulation/approval/denial of this should be fair and open,
and that is what I think we should be lobbying for, and not trying to
argue a case on the issue of constitutionality.
>
> Phil
> 8a wings
>
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| Subject: | Re: Constitutionality of FAA/TSA rule 14293 |
--> RV-List message posted by: Tedd McHenry <tedd@vansairforce.org>
In the U.S. you have the right to move freely, as we do in Canada. This is a
constitutionally guaranteed right. Our supreme court decided that this right
means that the government can't prevent you from driving a car for reasons
other than competence to drive a car. In other words you can be required to
hold a licence that indicates competence (or is supposed to, anyway), but that
licence can only be taken away from you if you demonstrate lack of competence
(i.e. by breaking highway laws). So it is your right, in Canada, to drive a
car, it is NOT a priviledge.
I would guess that this same principle applies to a pilot's licence, and I
would also guess that a U.S. court would make much the same decision.
---
Tedd McHenry
Surrey, BC
-6 wings
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: RV8 semi quick build kit for sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Konrad Werner" <Connywerner@wans.net>
???????????
Please Do Not Archive
Subject: Re: RV-List: RV8 semi quick build kit for sale
> --> RV-List message posted by: "MORGAN HETRICK" <morgan@heifercreek.com>
>
> Is it a 747 or a J-3?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jim" <jntambs@voyager.net>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV-List: RV8 semi quick build kit for sale
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "jim" <jntambs@voyager.net>
> >
> > I am selling my kit. The empennage is complete except fiberglass. The
> wing is to the fuel tank stage (both wings being built simultaneously). I
> have a quick build fuselage. All kits inventoried and complete. The cost
> of the kits was over $17,000 excluding shipping. Workmanship is
excellent,
> evaluated by tech counselor. I want to get the cost of the kits out of
> this. This is your chance to get a setup that is almost to the quickbuild
> stage without having to wait 9 months or so.
> >
> > Contact initially by email:
> > Jim Tambs
> > jntambs@voyager.net
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jim
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Little washers in tight places |
--> RV-List message posted by: cecilth@juno.com
I have washers from ACS that have little handles on them. After installed
you twist the handles off.
Cecil
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 05:04:42 -0500 "Tom & Cathy Ervin"
<tcervin@valkyrie.net> writes:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Tom & Cathy Ervin"
> <tcervin@valkyrie.net>
>
> Cleveland Aircraft sells a tool that holds washers in place almost
> like a
> 3rd hand.
>
> Tom in Ohio
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Geoff Evans" <hellothaimassage@yahoo.com>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV-List: Little washers in tight places
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: Geoff Evans
> <hellothaimassage@yahoo.com>
> >
> > Can anyone share their tricks for getting little washers into
> tight places
> > without dropping them?
> >
> > For example, the washers used as spacers in the aileron and
> elevator
> mounting
> > brackets. It takes me a really long time to get washers on the
> bolts
> inside the
> > mounting brackets. There has to be a better (easier) way to do
> this that
> > doesn't involve as much cursing...
> >
> > -Geoff
> >
> > RV-8 QB
> > Wings
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Constitutionality of FAA/TSA rule 14293 |
--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie & Tupper England <cengland@netdoor.com>
Wiethe, Philip (P.J.) wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Wiethe, Philip (P.J.)" <pwiethe@ford.com>
>
>As much as I don't like playing devil's advocate somewhat on this issue, I feel
the need to make some comments. I have read many of the comments on the government
site and see many arguments against the arbitrary revocation of an Airman
certificate as a violation of a constitutional 'right'. In this context,
holding an Airman's certificate is really a 'privilege', and not a 'right'.
Constitutionally speaking, there is no defined 'right' to be able to fly a plane.
By the fact that an individual must meet certain criteria to be able to legally
hold an Airman's certificate (read, write, speak English, be of certain
medical condition, go through training and a passing a test standards, etc.)
also proves this point. A constitutional right would not have a set of standards
that need to be met by the individual for it to be valid. While some may
argue that flying should be a 'right', I think the majority of us would have to
agree that there needs to be some set of qualificat!
>ion standards to be given the green-light to fly a plane in this country, thus,
relegating the act to 'privilege' status. Accordingly, however, the regulation/approval/denial
of this should be fair and open, and that is what I think
we should be lobbying for, and not trying to argue a case on the issue of constitutionality.
>
>Phil
>8a wings
>
Hi Phil,
Here's a link for your review.
http://memory.loc.gov/const/bor.html
I call your attention to items IV, V, VI, VIII, IX, and X. Especially IX
and X. Our forefathers clearly intended to give the people the right to
do as they please with as little interference from our government as
possible.
Charlie
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| Subject: | Re: > Re: Landing/taxi lts. on taildragger |
--> RV-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com
I built landing/taxi lights for several years using automotive Halogen H-4
headlight units . They are NOT sealed beam and use H-4 Quartz Halogen bulbs (
130/90 WATT) . High beam for landing / low beam for taxi .
These are super bright lights , like your auto lights. They mounted in the
leading edge skin just inboard of the wingtip .
The landing light would aim slightly down ,in level flight, in my RV-4 /the
taxi is low beam,so it aims down lower in taxi mode.
I am not building these any more . I DO have replacement parts for past
customers.
Bob Olds A&P , EAA Tech. Counselor
RV-4 , N1191X , Flying Now
Charleston, Arkansas
"Real Aviators Fly Taildraggers"
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| Subject: | oiling drill and rivet gun |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Will & Lynda Allen" <linenwool@attbi.com>
Since directions didn't come with my drill or rivet gun and I've never had
air tools before, how much oil and how often do I oil them? If there isn't
an opening for the oil do I just put some in the connector that the hose
attaches to?
Thanks,
-Will Allen
North Bend, Wa
RV8 Emp
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| Subject: | RE: RV8-List: oiling drill and rivet gun |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Michael D. Crowe" <tripacer@bellsouth.net>
Will,
About 3 to 4 drops in the connector for each days use.
Mike Crowe
RV8A waiting on wings
Subject: RV8-List: oiling drill and rivet gun
--> RV8-List message posted by: "Will & Lynda Allen" <linenwool@attbi.com>
Since directions didn't come with my drill or rivet gun and I've never had
air tools before, how much oil and how often do I oil them? If there isn't
an opening for the oil do I just put some in the connector that the hose
attaches to?
Thanks,
-Will Allen
North Bend, Wa
RV8 Emp
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| Subject: | Re: Little washers in tight places |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jim Bean <jim-bean@att.net>
My trick is to put in two bolts, one from each side. Hang a washer on
each bolt. Wiggle the spherical joint between the washers while backing
out the bolts --very-- gradually. Then use one bolt to push out the other.
Jim Bean
RV-8
Engine room
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| Subject: | Re: Constitutionality of FAA/TSA rule 14293 |
--> RV-List message posted by: Mark Phillips <ripsteel@edge.net>
Privilege, right or whatever- I liken this "rule" to the government
bulldozing my house down, then telling me after the fact that they
"suspect" I am making anthrax, A-bombs etc in it. I paid dearly for my
PPL in time and $$$, and for you folks with the whole list of CFI, CFII,
ATP, A&P etc(& I think ATC folks are in this mess too? How about you
veterans?!!) the price was FAR higher! Especially if you use these
things to put a roof over your head and food on the table (& maybe a BMW
in the garage<g>!)
Mr. Bureaucrat, you come for my property? You damn well better PROVE
you deserve it better than I do! And like I said in my comments, if Tim
McVeighs drivers license had been yanked, just how many lives would it
have saved in Oklahoma City? Stupid is as stupid does...
Off the box and do not archive
Mark at The PossumWorks in TN
Wiethe, Philip (P.J.) wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Wiethe, Philip (P.J.)" <pwiethe@ford.com>
>
> As much as I don't like playing devil's advocate somewhat on this issue, I feel
the need to make some comments. I have read many of the comments on the government
site and see many arguments against the arbitrary revocation of an Airman
certificate as a violation of a constitutional 'right'. In this context,
holding an Airman's certificate is really a 'privilege', and not a 'right'.
Constitutionally speaking, there is no defined 'right' to be able to fly a plane.
By the fact that an individual must meet certain criteria to be able to
legally hold an Airman's certificate (read, write, speak English, be of certain
medical condition, go through training and a passing a test standards, etc.)
also proves this point. A constitutional right would not have a set of standards
that need to be met by the individual for it to be valid. While some may
argue that flying should be a 'right', I think the majority of us would have
to agree that there needs to be some set of qualific
at!
> ion standards to be given the green-light to fly a plane in this country, thus,
relegating the act to 'privilege' status. Accordingly, however, the regulation/approval/denial
of this should be fair and open, and that is what I think
we should be lobbying for, and not trying to argue a case on the issue of constitutionality.
>
> Phil
> 8a wings
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: oiling drill and rivet gun |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Karie Daniel" <karied4@attbi.com>
You are correct Will, just simply add one drop of oil each time you use the
gun or drill and that will be sufficient.
Karie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Will & Lynda Allen" <>
Subject: RV-List: oiling drill and rivet gun
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Will & Lynda Allen" <linenwool@attbi.com>
>
> Since directions didn't come with my drill or rivet gun and I've never had
> air tools before, how much oil and how often do I oil them? If there
isn't
> an opening for the oil do I just put some in the connector that the hose
> attaches to?
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Will Allen
> North Bend, Wa
> RV8 Emp
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: oiling drill and rivet gun |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Konrad Werner" <Connywerner@wans.net>
Dear Will,
Putting oil in where the hose attaches just before each session is one way,
but an automatic oiler within the air line is another (they are adjustable
for the flowrate of oil). So, next time you are at Harbor Freight / Home
Depot / Lowe's, etc.etc. you might want to look in their Pneumatic Tool
Dept. These oilers normally come in a combo to include water separator and
pressure regulator as well. Good Luck Shopping!
Konrad
----- Original Message -----
From: "Will & Lynda Allen" <linenwool@attbi.com>
Subject: RV-List: oiling drill and rivet gun
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Will & Lynda Allen" <linenwool@attbi.com>
>
> Since directions didn't come with my drill or rivet gun and I've never had
> air tools before, how much oil and how often do I oil them? If there
isn't
> an opening for the oil do I just put some in the connector that the hose
> attaches to?
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Will Allen
> North Bend, Wa
> RV8 Emp
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: oiling drill and rivet gun |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net>
In the end of the hose will get the job done.
In the rivet gun I use about 2 or 4 drops and not too often, maybe every
fifth or sixth extended use. I try to avoid having the gun oiled so much
that it mists out of the exhaust port. It can make for headaches come
painting time
I oil my air tools at the end of usage rather than at the start. Just before
putting the tools away I add the drops of oil then I operate the tools long
enough to disperse the oil into the tool and put them away. This way they
have some protection while not in use and are ready for the next cycles of
use.
Jim in Kelowna
----- Original Message -----
From: "Will & Lynda Allen" <linenwool@attbi.com>
Subject: RV-List: oiling drill and rivet gun
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Will & Lynda Allen" <linenwool@attbi.com>
>
> Since directions didn't come with my drill or rivet gun and I've never had
> air tools before, how much oil and how often do I oil them? If there
isn't
> an opening for the oil do I just put some in the connector that the hose
> attaches to?
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Will Allen
> North Bend, Wa
> RV8 Emp
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net>
A bit more on oiling;
If you use an oiler at the compressor end you run the risk of polluting your
air hoses with oil. This will really smack you up the side of the head at
painting time!
I have not found a gun mounted oiler that I could set fine enough and that
would control the oil commensurate to the on and off use that my rivet gun
gets.
"Air tool oil" works best.
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Will & Lynda Allen" <linenwool@attbi.com>
Subject: RV-List: oiling drill and rivet gun
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Will & Lynda Allen" <linenwool@attbi.com>
>
> Since directions didn't come with my drill or rivet gun and I've never had
> air tools before, how much oil and how often do I oil them? If there
isn't
> an opening for the oil do I just put some in the connector that the hose
> attaches to?
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Will Allen
> North Bend, Wa
> RV8 Emp
>
>
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