---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 03/16/03: 32 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:44 AM - Re: Rv-8A Fuel vent lines in floor (Lenleg@aol.com) 2. 06:10 AM - Re: the 8 has paint (Mark Phillips) 3. 06:12 AM - Fuel flow (Ron Calhoun) 4. 06:27 AM - Re: Rv-8A Fuel vent lines in floor (Dave von Linsowe) 5. 07:12 AM - Re: Fuel flow (Jerry Springer) 6. 08:36 AM - Re: RV-List Digest: 34 Msgs - 03/15/03 (SSPRING83@aol.com) 7. 09:48 AM - Re: Re: RV-List Digest: 34 Msgs - 03/15/03 (James E. Clark) 8. 10:10 AM - Nigerian Scammers (Dave von Linsowe) 9. 11:07 AM - Re: Fuel flow (Charlie & Tupper England) 10. 11:25 AM - Re: Nigerian Scammers (Dr. Leathers) 11. 11:45 AM - Re: Data Logger-Solution!! (Tracy Crook) 12. 11:54 AM - Re: Fuel flow (Jerry Springer) 13. 12:11 PM - Re: Fuel flow (George McNutt) 14. 12:15 PM - Re: O320 Hard to find oil leak (Jerry2DT@aol.com) 15. 12:36 PM - PLEASE READ - Pending ISP Upgrade For Matronics... (Matt Dralle) 16. 12:56 PM - Re: Fuel flow (Charlie & Tupper England) 17. 02:14 PM - Re: Data Logger-Solution!! (RV8ter@aol.com) 18. 02:42 PM - Re: Data Logger-Solution!! (Larry Bowen) 19. 03:11 PM - Re: Data Logger-Solution!! (Brian Denk) 20. 03:39 PM - RV4 Cowling (Jerry Isler) 21. 04:04 PM - Best way to move an RV-7 airframe without flying it (Dan Checkoway) 22. 05:47 PM - Re: Fuel flow (Ron Calhoun) 23. 05:51 PM - Re: Best way to move an RV-7 airframe without flying it (Jim Jewell) 24. 06:13 PM - GX55 GPS and KING KY97A Radio 4 Sale (eregensburg) 25. 06:53 PM - Re: Best way to move an RV-7 airframe without flying it (Bobby Hester) 26. 07:23 PM - Re: RV4 Cowling (Doug Weiler) 27. 07:26 PM - Re: Fuel flow (Alex Peterson) 28. 07:57 PM - Re: Best way to move an RV-7 airframe without flying it () 29. 10:02 PM - Re: Data Logger-Solution!! (James E. Clark) 30. 10:56 PM - Re: Experimental Placard in single seaters (Randall Henderson) 31. 11:06 PM - Re: RV-6A bottom cowl/fuse mounting alternatives (Randall Henderson) 32. 11:21 PM - Re: the 8 has paint+gear legs (John Huft) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:44:52 AM PST US From: Lenleg@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Rv-8A Fuel vent lines in floor --> RV-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com (2) I may have to go the snap bushing - Has anyone out there done the snap bushing instead of fittings? I used the snap bushings and have had no problem so far. Len Leggette, RV-8A Greensboro, NC N910LL 57 hours & Out of Paint Shop this week !!! ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:10:25 AM PST US From: Mark Phillips Subject: Re: RV-List: the 8 has paint --> RV-List message posted by: Mark Phillips > Got my 8 back from the painter yesterday...I wanted red but this was all he > had. ...red and a "touch of gray", or is that silver? (hiho!) John, it must be rough- a gorgeous RV based in one of the most gorgeous places on the planet- does it get any better? Mark - do not archive ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:12:33 AM PST US From: "Ron Calhoun" Subject: RV-List: Fuel flow --> RV-List message posted by: "Ron Calhoun" Guys, I am checking my fue flow system because the engine just quit while test taxing yesterday. I pulled the fuel bowl off (RV4 mounted bottom center of firewall) and no fuel flowing. It squirts good with fuel boost pump on from both tanks. Should it not flow freely with boost pump off? I have Matt's fuel monitor and Van's fuel hoses which had the AD, but I could only check the right one which was clear. Suggestions? Ron Calhoun RV 4 Finishing forever ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:27:56 AM PST US From: "Dave von Linsowe" Subject: Re: RV-List: Rv-8A Fuel vent lines in floor --> RV-List message posted by: "Dave von Linsowe" My certified Pitts used a rubber grommet... Just shows what you could get away with, but not recommended. Dave RV-6 Subject: Re: RV-List: Rv-8A Fuel vent lines in floor > --> RV-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com > > (2) > I may have to go the snap bushing - Has anyone out > there done the snap bushing instead of fittings? > > > I used the snap bushings and have had no problem so far. > > Len Leggette, RV-8A > Greensboro, NC N910LL > 57 hours & Out of Paint Shop this week !!! ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:12:40 AM PST US From: Jerry Springer Subject: Re: RV-List: Fuel flow --> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer No it well not flow with the electric pump turned off, Jerry ------------------------------------------ Ron Calhoun wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Ron Calhoun" > > > Guys, I am checking my fue flow system because the engine just quit while > test taxing yesterday. > I pulled the fuel bowl off (RV4 mounted bottom center of firewall) and no > fuel flowing. It squirts good with fuel boost pump on from both tanks. > Should it not flow freely with boost pump off? I have Matt's fuel monitor > and Van's fuel hoses which had the AD, but I could only check the right one > which was clear. Suggestions? > > Ron Calhoun > RV 4 Finishing forever > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:36:01 AM PST US From: SSPRING83@aol.com Subject: RV-List: Re: RV-List Digest: 34 Msgs - 03/15/03 --> RV-List message posted by: SSPRING83@aol.com About those Nigerian Bank Check Scammers, The same thing happened to a pal of mine when he was listing his 1977 BMW 320I for sale. He was contacted via E-mail and sent a Wells Fargo Cashiers Check for over and above the amount asked and to please remit the difference to Nigeria via Western Union Money Order. His Banker smelled a rat when he went to deposit it and tipped him off. They rely on your honesty after you have deposited the bogus check. This guy E-mailed him ammediatly after he knew he had the check and told him his wife had died in a car wreck and he needed the funds for Funeral expenses, to please hurry the funds. So you fellow RV drivers, tell your friends to be wary of this scam and anything else concerning purchasing coming out of that place. Geo. Spring RV-4 4375J ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:48:36 AM PST US From: "James E. Clark" Subject: RE: RV-List: Re: RV-List Digest: 34 Msgs - 03/15/03 --> RV-List message posted by: "James E. Clark" All should note that this type of scam, those most often from a so-called Nigerian official "grand puh bah" of sorts, is not limited to Nigeria. I have received similar email scams from other countries as well. So ... "be careful out there". James [SNIP] > > About those Nigerian Bank Check Scammers, The same thing [SNIP] > So you fellow RV drivers, tell your friends to be > wary of this > scam and anything else concerning purchasing coming out of that place. > DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:10:57 AM PST US From: "Dave von Linsowe" Subject: RV-List: Nigerian Scammers --> RV-List message posted by: "Dave von Linsowe" They started off with big ticket items, now they're even going after sales less than $1000. My scammer went through the same stuff, his wife was ill then she died, then his son was in the hospital and dieing. He needed the money right a way to save his son's life. After this went on for a while I told him that I discovered a flaw in the prop when I removed it for shipping and that I couldn't sell him the prop and that I was going to wire back the full $7k the next day. They thought they had a real sucker now and were getting really excited. They couldn't wait for the time I was suppose to wire the money to call and check on the arrangements. They got some bad news, I was in a bad car accident the night before and it would be a few days before I could talk to anyone. Got a lot of calls and massages after that, threatening me that he was going to turn me in to the FBI if I didn't return his money! After making a miraculous recovery I informed them that I had known about the scam for some time and the authorities were tracking them as we spoke. I email them a picture of the check with "counterfeit" stamped across the front. That's been the end of it so far. Dave RV-6 > --> RV-List message posted by: SSPRING83@aol.com > > About those Nigerian Bank Check Scammers, The same thing happened to a > pal of mine when he was listing his 1977 BMW 320I for sale. He was contacted > via E-mail and sent a Wells Fargo Cashiers Check for over and above the > amount asked and to please remit the difference to Nigeria via Western Union > Money Order. His Banker smelled a rat when he went to deposit it and tipped > him off. They rely on your honesty after you have deposited the bogus check. > This guy E-mailed him ammediatly after he knew he had the check and told him > his wife had died in a car wreck and he needed the funds for Funeral > expenses, to please hurry the funds. > So you fellow RV drivers, tell your friends to be wary of this > scam and anything else concerning purchasing coming out of that place. > Geo. Spring RV-4 4375J ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:07:46 AM PST US From: Charlie & Tupper England Subject: Re: RV-List: Fuel flow --> RV-List message posted by: Charlie & Tupper England Ron Calhoun wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Ron Calhoun" > > >Guys, I am checking my fue flow system because the engine just quit while >test taxing yesterday. >I pulled the fuel bowl off (RV4 mounted bottom center of firewall) and no >fuel flowing. It squirts good with fuel boost pump on from both tanks. >Should it not flow freely with boost pump off? I have Matt's fuel monitor >and Van's fuel hoses which had the AD, but I could only check the right one >which was clear. Suggestions? > >Ron Calhoun >RV 4 Finishing forever > If your fuel selector valve is mounted near the top of the 'tunnel' it is higher than most (if not all) of the fuel in the tanks. No fuel will flow up hill without help. Charlie (been there; fell in that trap) ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:25:19 AM PST US From: "Dr. Leathers" Subject: Re: RV-List: Nigerian Scammers --> RV-List message posted by: "Dr. Leathers" Dave, You win the "giant balls of steel" award for that one! Way to go! Doc Do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave von Linsowe" Subject: RV-List: Nigerian Scammers > --> RV-List message posted by: "Dave von Linsowe" > > They started off with big ticket items, now they're even going after sales less than $1000. > > My scammer went through the same stuff, his wife was ill then she died, then his son was in the hospital and dieing. He needed the money right a way to save his son's life. After this went on for a while I told him that I discovered a flaw in the prop when I removed it for shipping and that I couldn't sell him the prop and that I was going to wire back the full $7k the next day. > > They thought they had a real sucker now and were getting really excited. They couldn't wait for the time I was suppose to wire the money to call and check on the arrangements. They got some bad news, I was in a bad car accident the night before and it would be a few days before I could talk to anyone. Got a lot of calls and massages after that, threatening me that he was going to turn me in to the FBI if I didn't return his money! > > After making a miraculous recovery I informed them that I had known about the scam for some time and the authorities were tracking them as we spoke. I email them a picture of the check with "counterfeit" stamped across the front. That's been the end of it so far. > > Dave > RV-6 > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: SSPRING83@aol.com > > > > About those Nigerian Bank Check Scammers, The same thing happened to a > > pal of mine when he was listing his 1977 BMW 320I for sale. He was contacted > > via E-mail and sent a Wells Fargo Cashiers Check for over and above the > > amount asked and to please remit the difference to Nigeria via Western Union > > Money Order. His Banker smelled a rat when he went to deposit it and tipped > > him off. They rely on your honesty after you have deposited the bogus check. > > This guy E-mailed him ammediatly after he knew he had the check and told him > > his wife had died in a car wreck and he needed the funds for Funeral > > expenses, to please hurry the funds. > > So you fellow RV drivers, tell your friends to be wary of this > > scam and anything else concerning purchasing coming out of that place. > > Geo. Spring RV-4 4375J > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 11:45:58 AM PST US From: "Tracy Crook" Subject: Re: RV-List: Data Logger-Solution!! --> RV-List message posted by: "Tracy Crook" > --> RV-List message posted by: RV8ter@aol.com > > Hey, as long as we're comparing prices, the EM2 engine monitor with all the > > capabilities of the IK-2000 and the serial output port is half the cost of > > the IK-2000 and will be available around end of May. > > > > Sorry for blowing my own horn. > > > > Tracy Crook > > what's the web site? > do not archive There is only a brief announcement on my website (www.rotaryaviation.com) right now but as soon as the engraved anodized front panels come in I will be posting photos & full technical details there. I expect the panels in around the 26th and should have the website updated within a couple of days after. Here are a few details in advance. The Grand Rapids EIS that I currently use in my RV-4 works great but I have not been entirely happy with liquid crystal displays. The EM2 display is a vacuum florescent which is much more readable and professional looking. It has four lines of data display instead of two so that the upper & lower lines can display the critical parameters that you always want on hand. Their functions are engraved in the panel so no memory work is involved in interpreting the display. The two center lines will have selectable variable functions. The EM2 will be made in two different versions, one for Mazda rotary engines (and water-cooled recips) and another for Lycomings. The Lyc. model will have up to 6 CHT & 6 EGT inputs with auto peak display plus the usual tach, manifold pressure, oil, air, (pressure & temperature), 2 fuel level & pressure, fuel flow (gph) and fuel totalizer (or fuel remaining), volts, Hobbs, flight timer. It will also have air data (air speed, altitude & V. speed) but these are mainly for backup purposes because I prefer standard analog dials for these functions instead of digital. There are also several auxiliary functions for builders using my EC2 EFI/Ignition controller but probably not of interest to you. There are adjustable upper & lower limit alarms on on most functions. The exact price has not been established yet but will be in the range of $1000 or less. I will have the prototype at Sun 'n Fun for show & tell at the hands on rotary engine forum tent. Width of the EM2 is same as standard radio/avionics stack (about 6.3"). Height is about 3". Tracy Crook do not archive ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 11:54:46 AM PST US From: Jerry Springer Subject: Re: RV-List: Fuel flow --> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer No trap, the fuel well not flow through the electric pump. that is why we normally have two pumps on a low wing aircraft. Jerry Charlie & Tupper England wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: Charlie & Tupper England > > Ron Calhoun wrote: > > >>--> RV-List message posted by: "Ron Calhoun" >> >> >>Guys, I am checking my fue flow system because the engine just quit while >>test taxing yesterday. >>I pulled the fuel bowl off (RV4 mounted bottom center of firewall) and no >>fuel flowing. It squirts good with fuel boost pump on from both tanks. >>Should it not flow freely with boost pump off? I have Matt's fuel monitor >>and Van's fuel hoses which had the AD, but I could only check the right one >>which was clear. Suggestions? >> >>Ron Calhoun >>RV 4 Finishing forever >> > > If your fuel selector valve is mounted near the top of the 'tunnel' it > is higher than most (if not all) of the fuel in the tanks. No fuel will > flow up hill without help. > > Charlie > (been there; fell in that trap) > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 12:11:47 PM PST US From: "George McNutt" Subject: RE: RV-List: Fuel flow --> RV-List message posted by: "George McNutt" - Subject: RV-List: Fuel flow --> RV-List message posted by: "Ron Calhoun" Guys, I am checking my fue flow system because the engine just quit while test taxing yesterday. --------------------------- Hi Ron My opinion only, but -- If you have a carburettor and the temperature & dew point were right it most likely quit due to carb ice. You did say it started fine later?? I have had my 0-320 quit on the ground with carb ice even though my carb air temp gauge was showing the carb air temp at 42 deg. F and supposidly above the carb icing range. My Electronics Intl carb air temp gauge has a warning light that stays on up to 39 deg. F, and while that 39 deg F seems fine to prevent icing in flight it will still ice up on the ground. George McNutt Langley, B.C. ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 12:15:22 PM PST US From: Jerry2DT@aol.com Subject: RV-List: Re: O320 Hard to find oil leak --> RV-List message posted by: Jerry2DT@aol.com ...guess you've never owned a british air-cooled motorcycle, or a Harley for that matter. They are also "externally lubricated"... :) Jerry Cochran ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 12:36:22 PM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: RV-List: PLEASE READ - Pending ISP Upgrade For Matronics... --> RV-List message posted by: Matt Dralle Dear Matronics Listers, Sometime during the next 72 hours, the ISP (Internet Service Provider) for Matronics will be upgrading the level of service to 1.1Mb from the current 768k. When they reprovision the line, there will be an outage requiring that the local router here be restarted. It is also unclear whether or not the physical line will support the new rate, so some testing will be required to verify the new service at the time of installation. Unfortunately, I don't really have an idea of exactly when they will be reprovisioning the line, so I wanted to give everyone a heads up on what's going on. All Matronics List services such as email list redistribution, subscriptions, and web search and browse will be unavailable during the upgrade. In other upgrade news, last Thursday, 3/13/03 I upgraded the firewall appliance between the Internet and the Matronics systems. This new firewall represents a substantial increase in performance and hopefully reliability over the previous system. It will compliment nicely the new level of ISP connectivity. Finally, these are just two examples of the upgrades brought to you compliments of the 2002 List Fund Raiser. A special thanks to all that made a Contribution in 2002 and so far this year! Everyone that uses these Lists appreciates your generosity! I will post a short message again if I manage to get some clear direction on the time-frame for upgrade, or perhaps when its been completed. Thanks again!! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft There's three sides to every story, babe. There's your's; there's mine; and there's the cold, hard truth... Don Henley Long Way Home, 1982 Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 12:56:21 PM PST US From: Charlie & Tupper England Subject: Re: RV-List: Fuel flow --> RV-List message posted by: Charlie & Tupper England I'd buy that, never having checked the passive flow through the Facet, but I had the lines off all the way to the selector valve before coming to the conclusion I posted earlier. I probably had less than 1/2 capacity in each tank when I got 'bit'. Charlie Jerry Springer wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer > >No trap, the fuel well not flow through the electric pump. >that is why we normally have two pumps on a low wing aircraft. > >Jerry > >Charlie & Tupper England wrote: > > >>--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie & Tupper England >> >>Ron Calhoun wrote: >> >> >> >> >>>--> RV-List message posted by: "Ron Calhoun" >>> >>> >>>Guys, I am checking my fue flow system because the engine just quit while >>>test taxing yesterday. >>>I pulled the fuel bowl off (RV4 mounted bottom center of firewall) and no >>>fuel flowing. It squirts good with fuel boost pump on from both tanks. >>>Should it not flow freely with boost pump off? I have Matt's fuel monitor >>>and Van's fuel hoses which had the AD, but I could only check the right one >>>which was clear. Suggestions? >>> >>>Ron Calhoun >>>RV 4 Finishing forever >>> >>> >>> >>If your fuel selector valve is mounted near the top of the 'tunnel' it >>is higher than most (if not all) of the fuel in the tanks. No fuel will >>flow up hill without help. >> >>Charlie >>(been there; fell in that trap) >> ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 02:14:51 PM PST US From: RV8ter@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Data Logger-Solution!! --> RV-List message posted by: RV8ter@aol.com Great. I'll be sure to check it out at SNF. lucky do not archive In a message dated 3/16/2003 2:47:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, lors01@msn.com writes: > Subj: Re: RV-List: Data Logger-Solution!! > Date: 3/16/2003 2:47:09 PM Eastern Standard Time > From: lors01@msn.com > Reply-to: rv-list@matronics.com > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Sent from the Internet > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Tracy Crook" > > > >--> RV-List message posted by: RV8ter@aol.com > > >>Hey, as long as we're comparing prices, the EM2 engine monitor with all > the > >>capabilities of the IK-2000 and the serial output port is half the cost > of > >>the IK-2000 and will be available around end of May. > >> > >>Sorry for blowing my own horn. > >> > >>Tracy Crook > > > >what's the web site? > >do not archive > > There is only a brief announcement on my website (www.rotaryaviation.com) > right now but as soon as the engraved anodized front panels come in I will > be posting photos &full technical details there. I expect the panels in > around the 26th and should have the website updated within a couple of days > after. > > Here are a few details in advance. > > The Grand Rapids EIS that I currently use in my RV-4 works great but I have > not been entirely happy with liquid crystal displays. The EM2 display is a > vacuum florescent which is much more readable and professional looking. It > has four lines of data display instead of two so that the upper &lower > lines can display the critical parameters that you always want on hand. > Their functions are engraved in the panel so no memory work is involved in > interpreting the display. The two center lines will have selectable > variable functions. > > The EM2 will be made in two different versions, one for Mazda rotary > engines (and water-cooled recips) and another for Lycomings. The Lyc. > model > will have up to 6 CHT &6 EGT inputs with auto peak display plus the usual > tach, manifold pressure, oil, air, (pressure &temperature), 2 fuel level & > pressure, fuel flow (gph) and fuel totalizer (or fuel remaining), volts, > Hobbs, flight timer. It will also have air data (air speed, altitude &V. > speed) but these are mainly for backup purposes because I prefer standard > analog dials for these functions instead of digital. There are also > several > auxiliary functions for builders using my EC2 EFI/Ignition controller but > probably not of interest to you. There are adjustable upper &lower limit > alarms on on most functions. The exact price has not been established yet > but will be in the range of $1000 or less. > > I will have the prototype at Sun 'n Fun for show &tell at the hands on > rotary engine > forum tent. Width of the EM2 is same as standard radio/avionics stack > (about 6.3"). > Height is about 3". > > Tracy Crook > do not archive > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 02:42:25 PM PST US From: "Larry Bowen" Subject: RE: RV-List: Data Logger-Solution!! --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" Sounds nice. What type of footprint does it have? 3.25" round, square, etc? - Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com 2003 - The year of flight! > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tracy Crook > Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 2:43 PM > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV-List: Data Logger-Solution!! > > There is only a brief announcement on my website > (www.rotaryaviation.com) right now but as soon as the > engraved anodized front panels come in I will be posting > photos & full technical details there. I expect the panels > in around the 26th and should have the website updated within > a couple of days after. > > Here are a few details in advance. > > The Grand Rapids EIS that I currently use in my RV-4 works > great but I have not been entirely happy with liquid crystal > displays. The EM2 display is a vacuum florescent which is > much more readable and professional looking. It has four > lines of data display instead of two so that the upper & > lower lines can display the critical parameters that you > always want on hand. Their functions are engraved in the > panel so no memory work is involved in interpreting the > display. The two center lines will have selectable variable > functions. > > The EM2 will be made in two different versions, one for > Mazda rotary engines (and water-cooled recips) and another > for Lycomings. The Lyc. model will have up to 6 CHT & 6 EGT > inputs with auto peak display plus the usual tach, manifold > pressure, oil, air, (pressure & temperature), 2 fuel level & > pressure, fuel flow (gph) and fuel totalizer (or fuel > remaining), volts, Hobbs, flight timer. It will also have > air data (air speed, altitude & V. > speed) but these are mainly for backup purposes because I > prefer standard analog dials for these functions instead of > digital. There are also several auxiliary functions for > builders using my EC2 EFI/Ignition controller but > probably not of interest to you. There are adjustable > upper & lower limit > alarms on on most functions. The exact price has not been > established yet > but will be in the range of $1000 or less. > > I will have the prototype at Sun 'n Fun for show & tell at > the hands on rotary engine forum tent. Width of the EM2 is > same as standard radio/avionics stack (about 6.3"). Height is > about 3". > > Tracy Crook > do not archive ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 03:11:29 PM PST US From: "Brian Denk" Subject: Re: RV-List: Data Logger-Solution!! --> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Denk" The exact price has not been established yet >but will be in the range of $1000 or less. > >I will have the prototype at Sun 'n Fun for show & tell at the hands on >rotary engine >forum tent. Width of the EM2 is same as standard radio/avionics stack >(about 6.3"). >Height is about 3". > >Tracy Crook $1000 or LESS??? Man, where have you been all my life?!? Gimme Gimme! I hope to see ya at Sun N Fun. Brian Denk RV8 N94BD do not archive ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 03:39:09 PM PST US From: "Jerry Isler" Subject: RV-List: RV4 Cowling --> RV-List message posted by: "Jerry Isler" I have a 1994 vintage RV-4 polyester cowling that has a thick white gell coat applied from the factory. Around the inlet area the gell coat is 1/4 inch thick in places and is cracking really bad. Is there any hope for this condition or do I have to grind it all down to the fabric and then build it back up? What do you use to build it up? Will Bondo work or am I asking for more trouble down the road? Anyone had this problem before. This cowl has been stored in the attic of my shop for several years and I am now starting to install. Could all of this be heat related? Jerry Isler RV-4 # 1070 N455J (Reserved) Donalsonville, GA ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 04:04:01 PM PST US From: "Dan Checkoway" Subject: RV-List: Best way to move an RV-7 airframe without flying it --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" I'm going to be moving in mid to late April, but I won't be ready to move the plane to a hangar yet (bummer, timing would have been perfect!). The fuselage will be on landing gear (no engine hung yet), and the wings are on a castering stand. The move distance is about 50 freeway miles. I figure I'll just rent a big U-haul, somehow wheel the fuselage up into it, wheel/carry the wings up in there, secure everything, etc. and drive SLOWLY. Is this how most people do it? Last time I moved (jeez, seems like just the other day), all I had to move were the tail surfaces...much easier to deal with! Any advice is much appreciated. Thanks, )_( Dan RV-7 N714D (canopy) http://www.rvproject.com ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 05:47:02 PM PST US From: "Ron Calhoun" Subject: RE: RV-List: Fuel flow --> RV-List message posted by: "Ron Calhoun" Well, I guess I either cleared the lines yesterday by running the boost pump with the gascolator bowl off, or the carb ice melted. I ran it today and it ran fine from both tanks with fuel boost on and off. I will keep checking, a while yet to first flight. Ron RV4 _ ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 05:51:01 PM PST US From: "Jim Jewell" Subject: Re: RV-List: Best way to move an RV-7 airframe without flying it --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" Hi Dan, Some of the car or box trailers that can be borrowed or rented are low slung and well suited to the job. The four wheeled trailers ride softer than the big vans. Rent some shipping blankets and use all the pillows in the house (she won't mind(:-)! With a friends help I loaded my wing cart and then the wings into the back of my pickup, loaded the rest of the bits and pieces etc., tied the works down, hooked up the trailer and drove the works through about 300 miles of mountain country. all safe and sound. Jim in Kelowna do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Checkoway" Subject: RV-List: Best way to move an RV-7 airframe without flying it > --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" > > I'm going to be moving in mid to late April, but I won't be ready to move > the plane to a hangar yet (bummer, timing would have been perfect!). > > The fuselage will be on landing gear (no engine hung yet), and the wings are > on a castering stand. The move distance is about 50 freeway miles. > > I figure I'll just rent a big U-haul, somehow wheel the fuselage up into it, > wheel/carry the wings up in there, secure everything, etc. and drive SLOWLY. > Is this how most people do it? > > Last time I moved (jeez, seems like just the other day), all I had to move > were the tail surfaces...much easier to deal with! Any advice is much > appreciated. > > Thanks, > )_( Dan > RV-7 N714D (canopy) > http://www.rvproject.com > > ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 06:13:17 PM PST US From: eregensburg Subject: RV-List: GX55 GPS and KING KY97A Radio 4 Sale --> RV-List message posted by: eregensburg I replaced my radio and GPS for a GPS/COM . Will sell my KY97A radio for $500 and my Apollo GX55 GPS (W/antenae) for $1200 . Buyer also pays shipping. Both units worked flawlessly up until the day they were removed from the plane. Have operation manual too. Ed 336-275-3009 N925RV / RV6A Greensboro, NC ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 06:53:08 PM PST US From: Bobby Hester Subject: Re: RV-List: Best way to move an RV-7 airframe without flying it --> RV-List message posted by: Bobby Hester Dan Checkoway wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" > >Last time I moved (jeez, seems like just the other day), all I had to move >were the tail surfaces...much easier to deal with! Any advice is much >appreciated. > >Thanks, >)_( Dan >RV-7 N714D (canopy) >http://www.rvproject.com > > Stop moving so offen ;-) -- Surfing the Web from Hopkinsville, KY Visit my web site at: http://www.geocities.com/hester-hoptown/RVSite/ RV7A Slowbuild wings-QB Fuse :-) ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 07:23:10 PM PST US From: "Doug Weiler" Subject: Re: RV-List: RV4 Cowling --> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Weiler" ----- > --> RV-List message posted by: "Jerry Isler" > > I have a 1994 vintage RV-4 polyester cowling that has a thick white gell > coat applied from the factory. Around the inlet area the gell coat is 1/4 > inch thick in places and is cracking really bad. Is there any hope for this > condition or do I have to grind it all down to the fabric and then build it > back up? What do you use to build it up? Will Bondo work or am I asking for > more trouble down the road? Anyone had this problem before. This cowl has > been stored in the attic of my shop for several years and I am now starting > to install. Could all of this be heat related? > > Jerry Isler > RV-4 # 1070 > N455J (Reserved) > Donalsonville, GA Jerry: I think this is just a common characteristic of the polyester cowls with the gel coat. My flying RV has similar small cracks and my Citabria also showed these types of cracks. I have heard the only solutions is to grind down through the gell coat. I would then fill it with Super Fil which is an epoxy filler. Or spend the big bucks on Van's new style S-glass cowl (which I did for my "almost" flying RV-4). Doug Weiler Hudson, WI ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 07:26:23 PM PST US From: "Alex Peterson" Subject: RE: RV-List: Fuel flow --> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" > --> RV-List message posted by: "Ron Calhoun" > > Well, I guess I either cleared the lines yesterday by running > the boost pump with the gascolator bowl off, or the carb ice > melted. I ran it today and it ran fine from both tanks with > fuel boost on and off. I will keep checking, a while yet to > first flight. Ron, this is probably unrelated to your experience, but your post inspired me to make this comment: I believe it is critical to test the boost pump and fuel system for flow rates prior to first flight. I disconnected the fuel line at the servo (or carburetor), and put it such that it discharged into a quart jar. While someone watched the jar, I ran the boost pump and timed how long it took to get one quart of gas. I did this for both wing tanks. If I recall correctly, it was well over twice what the engine demands full power rich (which for a 180 hp engine is about 16 gph), or about 20 to 30 seconds to fill the quart. Alex Peterson Maple Grove, MN RV6-A N66AP 267 hours www.rvforum.org www.usfamily.net/web/alexpeterson ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 07:57:48 PM PST US From: Subject: Re: RV-List: Best way to move an RV-7 airframe without flying it --> RV-List message posted by: I did this in October. The larger trucks with the built in ramps worked great for me. I used the (I assume standard sized) furniture dollies from Home Depot, and they fit up the ramp just great when they are turned to run lengthwise up the ramp. I moved both fuse and wings unassisted this way. Nervewhacking though - another set of hands in case the wind kicks up at an inopportune time is a good thought. Amazing how light it all was. Lots of rope to make SURE nothing can move. I drove 350 miles of Interstate highway (with some really rough spots) doing 60 all the way, hitting a few bumps, and everything still looks good. Cliff Dominey Galveston, Texas 8A Fuse Forever ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Checkoway" Subject: RV-List: Best way to move an RV-7 airframe without flying it > --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" > > I'm going to be moving in mid to late April, but I won't be ready to move > the plane to a hangar yet (bummer, timing would have been perfect!). > > The fuselage will be on landing gear (no engine hung yet), and the wings are > on a castering stand. The move distance is about 50 freeway miles. > > I figure I'll just rent a big U-haul, somehow wheel the fuselage up into it, > wheel/carry the wings up in there, secure everything, etc. and drive SLOWLY. > Is this how most people do it? > > Last time I moved (jeez, seems like just the other day), all I had to move > were the tail surfaces...much easier to deal with! Any advice is much > appreciated. > > Thanks, > )_( Dan > RV-7 N714D (canopy) > http://www.rvproject.com > > ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 10:02:34 PM PST US From: "James E. Clark" Subject: RE: RV-List: Data Logger-Solution!! --> RV-List message posted by: "James E. Clark" I think near the end of the message he implies 6.25" ("standard rack") x 3.0". James > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Larry Bowen > Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 5:41 PM > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV-List: Data Logger-Solution!! > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" > > Sounds nice. What type of footprint does it have? 3.25" round, square, > etc? > > - > Larry Bowen > Larry@BowenAero.com > http://BowenAero.com > 2003 - The year of flight! > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tracy Crook > > Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 2:43 PM > > To: rv-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Re: RV-List: Data Logger-Solution!! > > > > There is only a brief announcement on my website > > (www.rotaryaviation.com) right now but as soon as the > > engraved anodized front panels come in I will be posting > > photos & full technical details there. I expect the panels > > in around the 26th and should have the website updated within > > a couple of days after. > > > > Here are a few details in advance. > > > > The Grand Rapids EIS that I currently use in my RV-4 works > > great but I have not been entirely happy with liquid crystal > > displays. The EM2 display is a vacuum florescent which is > > much more readable and professional looking. It has four > > lines of data display instead of two so that the upper & > > lower lines can display the critical parameters that you > > always want on hand. Their functions are engraved in the > > panel so no memory work is involved in interpreting the > > display. The two center lines will have selectable variable > > functions. > > > > The EM2 will be made in two different versions, one for > > Mazda rotary engines (and water-cooled recips) and another > > for Lycomings. The Lyc. model will have up to 6 CHT & 6 EGT > > inputs with auto peak display plus the usual tach, manifold > > pressure, oil, air, (pressure & temperature), 2 fuel level & > > pressure, fuel flow (gph) and fuel totalizer (or fuel > > remaining), volts, Hobbs, flight timer. It will also have > > air data (air speed, altitude & V. > > speed) but these are mainly for backup purposes because I > > prefer standard analog dials for these functions instead of > > digital. There are also several auxiliary functions for > > builders using my EC2 EFI/Ignition controller but > > probably not of interest to you. There are adjustable > > upper & lower limit > > alarms on on most functions. The exact price has not been > > established yet > > but will be in the range of $1000 or less. > > > > I will have the prototype at Sun 'n Fun for show & tell at > > the hands on rotary engine forum tent. Width of the EM2 is > > same as standard radio/avionics stack (about 6.3"). Height is > > about 3". > > > > Tracy Crook > > do not archive > > ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 10:56:37 PM PST US From: "Randall Henderson" Subject: Re: RV-List: Experimental Placard in single seaters --> RV-List message posted by: "Randall Henderson" Gary said: > Randall......I tried your link, but it didn't work. It's this stupid Microsoft email program that insists on breaking long lines. If anyone knows how to fix that in Outlook Express let me know. In the meantime just make sure you enter the whole link in your browser including the part that's wrapped to the next line in the email. Or just go to the FAA web site (http://www.faa.gov) and enter "Special Airworthiness Certification Process Inspect Aircraft" in the search window. The relevant part is in the document "Aircraft Certification Products and Services Special Airworthiness Certificate - Experimental Category For the Purpose of Exhibition Step 6. Inspect Aircraft (FAA) , Aircraft Certification Products and Services Page", which says (in part): That the "Passenger Warning" placard is displayed in full view of all passengers in the cabin or cockpit (Note: This placard is not applicable to single occupant aircraft). Randall --> ............. Just goes to show you, FAA inspectors don't always know what they're talking > about. See the following link: > http://www1.faa.gov/certification/aircraft/6_SPAW_EXP_AMATEUR-BUILT_INSP_ACF > T.htm (6th bullet item down). > > If you're not sure about something an FAA guy tells you, don't assume he's > omnipotent -- look it up. Sometimes its up to us to "educate" them on their > own rules (just be tactful about it!) > > Randall Henderson, RV-6 N6R (~450 hrs) > Portland, OR > www.vanshomewing.org > ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 11:06:18 PM PST US From: "Randall Henderson" Subject: Re: RV-List: RV-6A bottom cowl/fuse mounting alternatives --> RV-List message posted by: "Randall Henderson" > From searching the archives it appears several 6/7/9 builders > have used other means, than the hinges, to attach the bottom > cowl to the fuselage along the lower edge [snip] Try http://www.edt.com/homewing/rhproject/fwallfwd.html. There are some photos that show the .063 flanges/nutplates I used in lieu of the hinge on the bottom. 460 hrs on my O360/CS and no regrets. I also second Henry Hore's recommendations. Tedious to smooth those hinge corners but worth it IMHO. Randall Henderson, RV-6 N6R (~450 hrs) Portland, OR www.vanshomewing.org ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 11:21:37 PM PST US From: "John Huft" Subject: RE: RV-List: the 8 has paint+gear legs --> RV-List message posted by: "John Huft" I have been staying warm (single heat muff) as long as the sun is out down to about 10 deg F or so, but if its cloudy, I need an OAT of 30 or so. I am still worried about being overly warm in the summer. I really like the dark canopy otherwise (day VFR airplane). It is about the same as a pair of sunglasses from the inside, so I don't wear any. My headset fits better, and the GPS (Skymap) is much easier to read. Robbie called a few weeks ago asking me to measure my airplane...he was building a set of one-piece gear legs for the guy who wrecked, and talked about building more, but didn't indicate when he would do that. My airplane was the prototype for the legs for the 8s, and he waited until I had tried them for fit before offering them in general, so I would expect him to do the same in this case. The guy who wrecked has some rebuilding to do, so it could be a couple of months, but you could give Robbie a call. John -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of lucky macy Subject: Re: RV-List: the 8 has paint --> RV-List message posted by: "lucky macy" Looks great! Now that you've been flying it for a while, how is the tinted canopy working out? Wish it was clear for more warmth in the winter (greenhouse affect)? Also, do you know when Robbie is coming out with a one piece gear for the 8? lucky do not archive >From: "John Huft" >Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com >To: "Rv-List@Matronics. Com" >Subject: RV-List: the 8 has paint >Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 15:32:19 -0700 > >--> RV-List message posted by: "John Huft" > >Got my 8 back from the painter yesterday...I wanted red but this was all he >had. > >http://www.lazy8.net/rv8.html > >Still finishing the interior...see you all at sun n fun > >John Huft >Pagosa Springs, CO >53 hrs. > >