---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 03/18/03: 47 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:24 AM - Re: Brake pedal geom (N13eer@aol.com) 2. 06:22 AM - items for sale--SOLD (Don Wilson) 3. 07:07 AM - Re: N256GD FLYS (Rob Miller) 4. 07:10 AM - Radio Noise (revisited) (Dan DeNeal) 5. 07:24 AM - Re: Re: O320 Hard to find oil leak (RV_8 Pilot) 6. 07:25 AM - Re: Re: RV-List Digest: 34 Msgs - 03/15/03 (RV_8 Pilot) 7. 07:30 AM - Re: Running Drugs in your RV... (RV_8 Pilot) 8. 07:31 AM - Re: N256GD FLYS (C. Rabaut) 9. 07:38 AM - Re: Brake pedal geom (SportAV8R@aol.com) 10. 08:15 AM - Running drugs in your RV (Jim Truitt) 11. 08:24 AM - wing tip screws (Scott Bilinski) 12. 08:37 AM - Re: Brake pedal geom (Randall Henderson) 13. 08:41 AM - Re: PTT Switch (Randall Henderson) 14. 08:47 AM - Re: wing tip screws (Randall Henderson) 15. 08:59 AM - Re:Wingtip Screws (Oldsfolks@aol.com) 16. 09:11 AM - Re:RV-4 Cowling (Oldsfolks@aol.com) 17. 09:33 AM - Re: wing tip screws (Larry Pardue) 18. 09:55 AM - Re: wing tip screws (Elsa & Henry) 19. 10:30 AM - Re: wing tip screws (Scott Bilinski) 20. 10:50 AM - Re: Radio Noise (revisited) (kempthornes) 21. 11:32 AM - Antenna locations (Rick Galati) 22. 11:47 AM - Re: Antenna locations (Canyon) 23. 01:43 PM - Re: Antenna locations (Rick Galati) 24. 01:47 PM - Re: Tubes (Gary) 25. 02:26 PM - Oil Cooler Air Duct (John) 26. 03:21 PM - Re: Re: Antenna locations (Canyon) 27. 03:22 PM - Re: wing tip screws (Lenleg@aol.com) 28. 04:41 PM - Operating Limitations (Eric Whiteside) 29. 04:45 PM - Fw: Re: GX-65 Intercom (Arthur Nation) 30. 04:45 PM - Fw: Engines-List: Re: Engines-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 03/17/03 (C. Rabaut) 31. 06:30 PM - Re: Re: Antenna locations (LeastDrag93066@aol.com) 32. 06:51 PM - KY97A radio has been sold (eregensburg) 33. 07:18 PM - Hole In Skin (Glenn Brasch) 34. 07:30 PM - Re: Antenna locations (Bill Marvel) 35. 07:41 PM - Re: Hole In Skin (Dan Checkoway) 36. 07:49 PM - Re: Hole In Skin (Tom Gummo) 37. 07:49 PM - Re: Antenna locations (Alex Peterson) 38. 07:58 PM - Fw: Hole In Skin (Ralph E. Capen) 39. 08:02 PM - Hole in Skin Resolved (Glenn Brasch) 40. 09:09 PM - Re: Operating Limitations (Randall Henderson) 41. 09:12 PM - Break pedal geom (Gary Graham) 42. 09:13 PM - Re: Hole In Skin (Randall Henderson) 43. 09:13 PM - Engine help (Karen and Robert Brown) 44. 09:18 PM - Re: Hole In Skin (Jim Jewell) 45. 09:27 PM - Break pedal geom (Gary Graham) 46. 10:06 PM - Re: Operating Limitations (Tom Gummo) 47. 11:39 PM - Re: Fw: Engines-List: Re: Engines-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 03/17/03 (Ken And Gretchen) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:24:56 AM PST US From: N13eer@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Brake pedal geom --> RV-List message posted by: N13eer@aol.com In a message dated 3/17/2003 9:37:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, akroguy@hotmail.com writes: > Still get brake pressure. I might rivet > on some angles or combination of angle and half round tube to move the foot > contact point on the pedals aft and down an inch or so. We'll see how > Randy's mods work out and if successful, I'll shamelessly > copy! > > Brian Denk > RV8 N94BD Brian, This is what I did after taxi testing. I used 3/4 0.063 angle and tube (I think it was left over from one of the push rods that I cut to the wrong length). I cut the tube in half and had parts for both pedals. Now I only hear the squeak when I use my toes. The mod only took about an hour and I did not even have to remove the bagage floor. Alan Kritzman Cedar Rapids, IA RV-8, 15 hours ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:22:45 AM PST US From: Don Wilson Subject: RV-List: items for sale--SOLD --> RV-List message posted by: Don Wilson The Hobbyair 1 and spray gun are sold. Thanks to all who were interested. Don ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:07:22 AM PST US From: Rob Miller Subject: Re: RV-List: N256GD FLYS --> RV-List message posted by: Rob Miller Congrats Dan! What an accomplishment!! Welcome to the club!!! Enjoy the fruits of your labor. You are going to have a ball with this airplane. Rob Miller -8 N262RM "Bad Cat" 50 hours Do Not Archive --- Dan DeNeal wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: Dan DeNeal > > After a couple of high speed taxies today I realized > that it takes a lot of right rudder to keep it down > the middle. With that thought I shoved the throttle > forward and up I went. My next thought was "okay, that > was easy, now can you land this thing." So before > landing I just enjoyed the moment(s). Flew it for 1/2 > hour and brought it back in on the mile long runway > and just let it settle down. Tires squecked! and then > I had to call everbody on the my cell phone. > > After 8 1/2 years "IT REALLY DOES FLY" > > Dan DeNeal > RV6a N256GD > Hobbs meter blew a fuse?? today? So I still have 25 > hours to burn off. > > http://platinum.yahoo.com > > > > > > http://platinum.yahoo.com ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:10:00 AM PST US From: Dan DeNeal Subject: RV-List: Radio Noise (revisited) --> RV-List message posted by: Dan DeNeal In the archives I found Donald Nowakowski talking about the noise he gets when he keys the mic on his Icom A-200 radio. I too have the same problem with my Icom A-200 radio and a friend at the airport flying a Thorp has an Icom A-200 radio with the same problem. Receiving is excellent, transmitting noise get so extreme that it hurts my ears to key the mic. I also found that Pat Perry had the problem and corrected it with a better headset. Any other ideas!! Dan DeNeal http://platinum.yahoo.com ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:24:14 AM PST US From: "RV_8 Pilot" Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: O320 Hard to find oil leak --> RV-List message posted by: "RV_8 Pilot" a little late replying, but my O-320-E2A (high comp pistons, CS prop) has leaked at the front main seal almost from day one (since I overhauled it). I've changed the seal two times in 460 hrs and now I have one that only seeps a little. Not sure what the deal is, but may be related to the CS prop arrgt. it's a little messy, but managable. Bryan Jones -8 Pearland, Texas do not archive >From: Jerry2DT@aol.com >Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com >To: rv-list@matronics.com >Subject: RV-List: Re: O320 Hard to find oil leak >Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 15:12:45 EST > >--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry2DT@aol.com > >...guess you've never owned a british air-cooled motorcycle, or a Harley >for >that matter. They are also "externally lubricated"... :) > >Jerry Cochran > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:25:10 AM PST US From: "RV_8 Pilot" Subject: RE: RV-List: Re: RV-List Digest: 34 Msgs - 03/15/03 --> RV-List message posted by: "RV_8 Pilot" Also, don't reply. Then they'll know they have a good email address. Just delete. Bryan Jones -8 Pearland, Texas do not archive >From: "James E. Clark" >Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com >To: >Subject: RE: RV-List: Re: RV-List Digest: 34 Msgs - 03/15/03 >Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 12:44:34 -0500 > >--> RV-List message posted by: "James E. Clark" > >All should note that this type of scam, those most often from a so-called >Nigerian official "grand puh bah" of sorts, is not limited to Nigeria. > >I have received similar email scams from other countries as well. So ... >"be >careful out there". > >James > > >[SNIP] > > > > About those Nigerian Bank Check Scammers, The same thing >[SNIP] > > > So you fellow RV drivers, tell your friends to be > > wary of this > > scam and anything else concerning purchasing coming out of that place. > > > >DO NOT ARCHIVE > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:30:42 AM PST US From: "RV_8 Pilot" Subject: Re: RV-List: Running Drugs in your RV... --> RV-List message posted by: "RV_8 Pilot" Was on a charter fishing trip once when we had engine trouble coming back in. We stopped and started once or twice. Guess who met us at the entrance to the port area? Polite but fairly thorough little get together with the USCG. spotted "unusual, erratic" movement on their radar as it turned out. Bryan Jones -8 Pearland, Texas do not archive ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:31:41 AM PST US From: "C. Rabaut" Subject: Re: RV-List: N256GD FLYS --> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" Dan, My old AP-IA (in his 80's) says that for every hour on your Hobbs, you get two added to your life span. Happy flying, Chuck do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan DeNeal Subject: RV-List: N256GD FLYS > --> RV-List message posted by: Dan DeNeal > > After a couple of high speed taxies today I realized > that it takes a lot of right rudder to keep it down > the middle. With that thought I shoved the throttle > forward and up I went. My next thought was "okay, that > was easy, now can you land this thing." So before > landing I just enjoyed the moment(s). Flew it for 1/2 > hour and brought it back in on the mile long runway > and just let it settle down. Tires squecked! and then > I had to call everbody on the my cell phone. > > After 8 1/2 years "IT REALLY DOES FLY" > > Dan DeNeal > RV6a N256GD > Hobbs meter blew a fuse?? today? So I still have 25 > hours to burn off. > > http://platinum.yahoo.com > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:38:22 AM PST US From: SportAV8R@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Brake pedal geom --> RV-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com I have learned to press my feet against the outside frame of the rudder pedal assembly when I need only rudder input, and to slide my feet inward onto the brake pedals as needed, during ground ops. Otherwise there is definite brake application happening. I placed a split length of radiator hose over the bottom cross-tubes to try to keep my feet off the brake pedals when using rudder, but was never impressed that it helped much. This foot placement habit is so ingrained in me now that I keep my feet against the outside of the pedal frame even when airborn, unless I consciously tell myself, "okay, we can place our feet squarely on the pedals now; a little inadvertent brake application at 3000 feet AGL won't hurt anything until we touch down..." Bill B ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:15:33 AM PST US From: Jim Truitt Subject: RV-List: Running drugs in your RV --> RV-List message posted by: Jim Truitt I hope you don't take your experience too hard, Alan. As a law enforcement officer, it warms my heart to hear that some people still get involved and report suspicious behavior. ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:24:52 AM PST US From: Scott Bilinski Subject: RV-List: wing tip screws --> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski I remember reading a while back about what size screws people use on their wing tips. Some said 4-40 others 6-32. There are plenty of 6-32 nut plates but the question is, where does one find nut plates for 4-40 screws? If 4-40's are being used to retain the wing tips what are they threaded into if not nut plates? Scott Bilinski Eng dept 305 Phone (858) 657-2536 Pager (858) 502-5190 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:37:21 AM PST US From: "Randall Henderson" Subject: Re: RV-List: Brake pedal geom --> RV-List message posted by: "Randall Henderson" One solution is to slit a brake hose and slip it over the cross-tube, held in place with wire ties or safety wire. I haven't done it myself -- it doesn't seem to be an issue. I did move my pedals up and back to accomodate my long legs and gunboat feet. But I have to admit I still probably ride the brakes a bit without realizing it. Randall Henderson, RV-6 N6R (~450 hrs) Portland, OR www.vanshomewing.org ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 08:41:06 AM PST US From: "Randall Henderson" Subject: Re: RV-List: PTT Switch --> RV-List message posted by: "Randall Henderson" Ya the switch they used was crap anyway. I melted mine the first time I tried to solder it. got a quality switch from a local radio shop to replace it. The tricky part is making it fit the cap but what the heck, we're homebuilders. Randall Henderson, RV-6 N6R (~450 hrs) Portland, OR www.vanshomewing.org ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 08:47:04 AM PST US From: "Randall Henderson" Subject: Re: RV-List: wing tip screws --> RV-List message posted by: "Randall Henderson" > I remember reading a while back about what size screws people use > on their wing tips. Some said 4-40 others 6-32. There are plenty of > 6-32 nut plates but the question is, where does one find nut plates > for 4-40 screws? If 4-40's are being used to retain the wing tips what > are they threaded into if not nut plates? I think they mostly (all?) use nutplates. Cleaveland has a kit for these with #40 (or used to anyway). Personally I used #6s. The #4s are just too much of a pain to install/remove without stripping the head IMHO. And the 6s look fine (again IMHO!) Randall Henderson, RV-6 N6R (~450 hrs) Portland, OR www.vanshomewing.org ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 08:59:59 AM PST US From: Oldsfolks@aol.com Subject: RV-List: Re:Wingtip Screws --> RV-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com I used 6-32 nutplates and screws (countersunk type) on my wingtips. I drilled the tips and wing skin edges , then put a 1 1/2 " .025 aluminum strip inside the fibreglas and drilled to match the screw holes. With these clecoed together I drilled for AN 426 AD3 rivets along the other edge , spaced about 4" apart. I riveted the platenuts to the aluminum strip and epoxied the strip inside the wingtip and squeezed the AN426AD3 rivets. I put the wingtips on while the epoxy cured. I don't have to wonder if the screws will pull out of the wingtip at a faraway place someday !! I had that happen on our RV-4 with the tips pop-riveted on. Bob Olds A&P , EAA Tech. Counselor RV-4 , N1191X , Flying Now Charleston, Arkansas "Real Aviators Fly Taildraggers" ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 09:11:33 AM PST US From: Oldsfolks@aol.com Subject: RV-List: Re:RV-4 Cowling --> RV-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com If you change to the new Van's pre-preg cowl, then you also have to use the 2 1/4" prop extension. The new cowl is shorter. I had bought my extension and bolts for the 4" extension prior to ordering the finish kit. SURPRISE ! They sent the new cowl. Expensive to replace my parts ! do not archive Bob Olds A&P , EAA Tech. Counselor RV-4 , N1191X , Flying Now Charleston, Arkansas "Real Aviators Fly Taildraggers" ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 09:33:18 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV-List: wing tip screws From: Larry Pardue --> RV-List message posted by: Larry Pardue >--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski > >I remember reading a while back about what size screws people use on their >wing tips. Some said 4-40 others 6-32. There are plenty of 6-32 nut plates >but the question is, where does one find nut plates for 4-40 screws? If >4-40's are being used to retain the wing tips what are they threaded into >if not nut plates? > > I used the kit from Cleaveland Tools. http://www5.mailordercentral.com/clevtool/products.asp?dept=2 Includes "hardware for attaching RV wing tips with #4 screws; 100 AN509-4 Screws (steel or stainless) 100 Nut-plates 200 Soft Rivets" Larry Pardue Carlsbad, NM RV-6 N441LP Flying http://www.carlsbadnm.com/n5lp/index.htm ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 09:55:56 AM PST US From: "Elsa & Henry" Subject: Re: RV-List: wing tip screws --> RV-List message posted by: "Elsa & Henry" Scott, I used the Cleaveland Tools kit pt. # WHS 200. It comes with 100 AN 509-4 screws (steel or stainless), 100 nut plates and 200 soft rivets (to rivet the nut plates to the fiberglass) Cheers!!-------Henry Hore ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 10:30:53 AM PST US From: Scott Bilinski Subject: Re: RV-List: wing tip screws --> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski Thanks for all the replies. I did not have a ACS catalog in front of me which made it much more difficult to find the right parts on line. The parts are now ordered and on the way. At 10:30 AM 3/18/03 -0700, you wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: Larry Pardue > > >>--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski >> >>I remember reading a while back about what size screws people use on their >>wing tips. Some said 4-40 others 6-32. There are plenty of 6-32 nut plates >>but the question is, where does one find nut plates for 4-40 screws? If >>4-40's are being used to retain the wing tips what are they threaded into >>if not nut plates? >> >> >I used the kit from Cleaveland Tools. > >http://www5.mailordercentral.com/clevtool/products.asp?dept=2 > >Includes "hardware for attaching RV wing tips with #4 screws; 100 AN509-4 >Screws (steel or stainless) 100 Nut-plates 200 Soft Rivets" > > >Larry Pardue >Carlsbad, NM > >RV-6 N441LP Flying >http://www.carlsbadnm.com/n5lp/index.htm > > Scott Bilinski Eng dept 305 Phone (858) 657-2536 Pager (858) 502-5190 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 10:50:04 AM PST US From: kempthornes Subject: Re: RV-List: Radio Noise (revisited) --> RV-List message posted by: kempthornes Noise? As in growl, squeal, rumble, scrape, hum????? Is your wiring to the headphones, microphone, key all shielded?? K. H. (Hal) Kempthorne RV6-a N7HK flying! PRB (El Paso de Robles, CA) ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 11:32:33 AM PST US From: "Rick Galati" Subject: RV-List: Antenna locations --> RV-List message posted by: "Rick Galati" In the interests of optimum performance, I have (reluctantly) elected to mount a COM antenna and transponder antenna on the belly of my under-construction 6A. Is any belly location better than the next? Also, I'm told some builders mount a marker beacon and VOR antenna in the wing tips. I find this concept highly desirable. However, with my 2 strobe light powerpacks, each one mounted nearby on an outboard wing rib, could this somehow degrade the efficiency of wingtip mounted antenna's? Rick Galati RV-6A FWF --- Rick Galati --- rick07x@earthlink.net ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 11:47:00 AM PST US From: Canyon Subject: Re: RV-List: Antenna locations --> RV-List message posted by: Canyon Rick Galati wrote: >I'm told some builders mount a marker beacon and VOR antenna >in the wing tips. I find this concept highly desirable. However, >with my 2 strobe light powerpacks, each one mounted nearby on an >outboard wing rib, could this somehow degrade the efficiency of >wingtip mounted antenna's? --- Hi Rick, How large is the metal mass of the power pack and what would be the distance from it to the antenna? Is the power pack possibly mounted inside the outboard wing rib? Steve ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 01:43:39 PM PST US From: "Rick Galati" Subject: RV-List: Re: Antenna locations --> RV-List message posted by: "Rick Galati" Subject: Re: Antenna locations From: Canyon (steve.canyon@verizon.net ) Date: Tue Mar 18 - 11:47 AM -- RV-List message posted by: Canyon steve.canyon@verizon.net Rick Galati wrote: I'm told some builders mount a marker beacon and VOR antenna in the wing tips. I find this concept highly desirable. However, with my 2 strobe light powerpacks, each one mounted nearby on an outboard wing rib, could this somehow degrade the efficiency of wingtip mounted antenna's? --- Hi Rick, How large is the metal mass of the power pack and what would be the distance from it to the antenna? Is the power pack possibly mounted inside the outboard wing rib? Steve Steve, The Whelen A490ATSCF powerpacks are approximately 3"X3"X41/2", and are centrally located on the upper outboard surface of both wingtip ribs, (favoring the upper skin). Assuming the NAV antenna lies reasonably flat on the lower surface of the selected wingtip, approximately 4" of spacing would exist between the components at the immediate location of the powerpack. While on this subject, does an internally located nav antenna exist that also provides for glide slope? I want to avoid cat whiskers at all costs, and I sure would like to have that capability since a GI-106A CDI is already installed. Rick ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 01:47:13 PM PST US From: "Gary" Subject: Re: RV-List: Tubes --> RV-List message posted by: "Gary" --> RV-List message posted by: "Russ Alnutt" I had the standard tires and tubes from Van's and had to air them almost every time I went flying. I finally discovered the tires and tubes from Michelin Condor. The tubes are not cheap around $ 40.00 each. I have had them on since the last Oshkosh and have only put air in them one time. If you buy them at Oshkosh you will get a good deal. I would suggest everyone buy them. Russ.......I assume these are for the mains, and will not fit the nosewheel? Gary do not archive --- ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 02:26:52 PM PST US From: "John" Subject: RV-List: Oil Cooler Air Duct --> RV-List message posted by: "John" Van's Airforce web site has a Greg Bitzer design for a variable 'door' feeding air from the plenum to the oil cooler. I have a similiar, but mechanically slightly different arrangement that works very well. I can vary oil temperatures a few degrees very easily. BUT, I have often wondered if using the SCAT tube (as both my and Greg's design does) makes a difference in air flow as opposed to a smooth interior tube of some kind. I have thought of making a fiberglass duct with a small flex joint to allow for engine-firewall vibration, with the idea of increasing air flow in very hot conditions. What opinions are out there regarding how much, if any, turbulence is caused by the wires inside SCAT tubing vs using a smooth interior tube of some sort. Worth the trouble? John at Salida, CO ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 03:21:59 PM PST US From: Canyon Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Antenna locations --> RV-List message posted by: Canyon Rick Galati wrote: >The Whelen A490ATSCF powerpacks are approximately 3"X3"X41/2", and >are centrally located on the upper outboard surface of both wingtip >ribs, (favoring the upper skin). Assuming the NAV antenna lies >reasonably flat on the lower surface of the selected wingtip, >approximately 4" of spacing would >exist between the components at the immediate location of the >powerpack. While on this subject, does an internally located nav >antenna exist that also >provides for glide slope? I want to avoid cat whiskers at all costs, >and I sure would like to have that capability since a GI-106A CDI is >already installed. --- I think it should work just fine. Maybe if you run into a problem with it that way you could try a remount of the power pack. It's always nice when you can leave yourself a back door. How hard would it be to install that power pack inside the rib -- do you have a lightening hole it will fit through and bolt up on a mirror image bolt pattern? That would do it for sure. What does the antenna mfg'r say? Sorry, don't have a wingtip area to look at here. What kind of nav antenna -- VOR, HF or what? Someone else could probably give you a better answer on this one, but I'm pretty sure one exists but, sorry, don't have a reference for you. Steve ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 03:22:00 PM PST US From: Lenleg@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: wing tip screws --> RV-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com In a message dated 3/18/2003 11:25:44 AM Eastern Standard Time, bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com writes: > I remember reading a while back about what size screws people use on their > wing tips. Some said 4-40 others 6-32. There are plenty of 6-32 nut plates > but the question is, where does one find nut plates for 4-40 screws? If > 4-40's are being used to retain the wing tips what are they threaded into > if not nut plates? > > Cleveland Tool ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 04:41:00 PM PST US From: "Eric Whiteside" Subject: RV-List: Operating Limitations --> RV-List message posted by: "Eric Whiteside" Anyone on the list have experience with getting a replacement copy of a lost Operating Limitations document? I am not referring to getting the original language revised, just getting an FAA blessed copy of the original. I am interested in procedure followed, and how long it took to get the new document in hand. ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 04:45:06 PM PST US From: Arthur Nation Subject: RV-List: Fwd: RE: GX-65 Intercom --> RV-List message posted by: Arthur Nation ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Maybe this will cure the flap about this subject. do not archive Subject: RE: GX-65 From: Bill Lehmanowsky Thank you for your inquiry about the GX65. The problem you are describing was fixed in June 1998 with a com board change from mod. "C" to a mod "D". If you have any questions about any of the UPSAT products please call our tech. support Dept. at 1-800-525-6726 ext 3991 thank you Bill -----Original Message----- From: Arthur Nation [mailto:anation@eskimo.com] Subject: GX-65 Gentlemen: Today, on the RV-List postings, a real rubarb started. The question asked was "how good is the intercom function on the GPS-Com and who has actual experience. One reply said it (the GX-65) was good as gold in all functions. The next reply said it was the worst on the market. Five other people said, when using the intercom function, it was not possible to use the standby frequency monitoring. All thought this lacking to not be good. Is this true or not? Can one not monitor standby frequency and use the intercom? As I am quite interested in this unit for my Kitfox, I would appreciate the correct information. Thank You. Arthur Nation ------------------------------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 04:45:08 PM PST US From: "C. Rabaut" Subject: RV-List: Fw: Engines-List: Re: Engines-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 03/17/03 --> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" This request for an engine reminds me... I have a Lycoming O-320 D1A, with 200~ hours TTSN, for sale $16-k in Coalinga, California (short range delivery negotiable). Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: Greg P Jannakos Subject: Engines-List: Re: Engines-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 03/17/03 > --> Engines-List message posted by: Greg P Jannakos > > > I'm looking for an engine for sale to install on my Zodiac CH601HDS. > Anyone have one for sale? > Greg Jannakos > gpjann@juno.com > > ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 06:30:42 PM PST US From: LeastDrag93066@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Antenna locations --> RV-List message posted by: LeastDrag93066@aol.com Try sending a message to Bob Archer. Sportcraft Antenna's. He has a very nice wingtip NAV antenna. bobsantennas@earthlink.com Or call him at (310) 316-8796. Bob loves to talk aircraft antenna's. Jim Ayers Less Drag Products, Inc. ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 06:51:54 PM PST US From: eregensburg Subject: RV-List: KY97A radio has been sold --> RV-List message posted by: eregensburg Thank everyone for the overwhelming response. I delivered my KY97A to its new owner today Ed N925RV ________________________________ Message 33 ____________________________________ Time: 07:18:42 PM PST US From: "Glenn Brasch" Subject: RV-List: Hole In Skin --> RV-List message posted by: "Glenn Brasch" Dimpling a HS skin with a pneumatic as I am about to call it a night the thing slips as I pull the trigger and I put a very nice hole in my skin. Of course it is on the top side. It is 1" from the aft end and 1" in from the tip. I am not sure how the fiberglass tips come into play later, but I don't think it will help me in covering the hole. Is this something I can repair in the finishing/painting process, or should I right now chalk it up to my stupidity and buy a new skin? Your comments are appreciated in advance. Wish I could remain anonymous! Glenn in Arizona. -9A Emp. ________________________________ Message 34 ____________________________________ Time: 07:30:44 PM PST US From: Bill Marvel Subject: Re: RV-List: Antenna locations --> RV-List message posted by: Bill Marvel Rick: I have the Bob Archer nav/glideslope antenna in the right wing tip of an RV-8A, along with his simple marker beacon antenna. I have both nav lights out there and strobes with the power supply on the outboard side of the outer wing rib. There is no problem of interference with any of this, and in fact, the installation diagram shows how to route strobe and nav wires across his antenna. In short, it works great and there are no problems. Another poster gave you his name and phone number so you might want to get in touch. Bill Marvel Rick Galati wrote: > Also, I'm told some builders mount a marker > beacon and VOR antenna > in the wing tips. I find this concept highly > desirable. However, > with my 2 strobe light powerpacks, each one mounted > nearby on an > outboard wing rib, could this somehow degrade the efficiency of > > wingtip mounted antenna's? ________________________________ Message 35 ____________________________________ Time: 07:41:43 PM PST US From: "Dan Checkoway" Subject: Re: RV-List: Hole In Skin --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" Debur it, dimple it, put an AN426AD3-3 rivet in (back rivet it to get it ultra smooth), done deal. 1" is plenty of edge distance, sounds like there won't be any structural interference (i.e. overlapping rib or spar). That's about the cleanest messup you can make! Welcome to the "What's that hole for?" club... 8-) )_( Dan RV-7 N714D (canopy) http://www.rvproject.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Brasch" Subject: RV-List: Hole In Skin > --> RV-List message posted by: "Glenn Brasch" > > Dimpling a HS skin with a pneumatic as I am about to call it a night the thing slips as I pull the trigger and I put a very nice hole in my skin. Of course it is on the top side. It is 1" from the aft end and 1" in from the tip. I am not sure how the fiberglass tips come into play later, but I don't think it will help me in covering the hole. Is this something I can repair in the finishing/painting process, or should I right now chalk it up to my stupidity and buy a new skin? Your comments are appreciated in advance. Wish I could remain anonymous! Glenn in Arizona. -9A Emp. > > ________________________________ Message 36 ____________________________________ Time: 07:49:31 PM PST US From: "Tom Gummo" Subject: Re: RV-List: Hole In Skin --> RV-List message posted by: "Tom Gummo" put a rivet in just like it belonged there. put one on the other side to match it. maybe, that way no one will know it was a mistake. don't ask. Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Brasch" Subject: RV-List: Hole In Skin > --> RV-List message posted by: "Glenn Brasch" > > Dimpling a HS skin with a pneumatic as I am about to call it a night the thing slips as I pull the trigger and I put a very nice hole in my skin. Of course it is on the top side. It is 1" from the aft end and 1" in from the tip. I am not sure how the fiberglass tips come into play later, but I don't think it will help me in covering the hole. Is this something I can repair in the finishing/painting process, or should I right now chalk it up to my stupidity and buy a new skin? Your comments are appreciated in advance. Wish I could remain anonymous! Glenn in Arizona. -9A Emp. > > ________________________________ Message 37 ____________________________________ Time: 07:49:53 PM PST US From: "Alex Peterson" Subject: RE: RV-List: Antenna locations --> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" > > I have the Bob Archer nav/glideslope antenna in the right > wing tip of an RV-8A, along with his simple marker beacon > antenna. I have both nav lights out there and strobes with > the power supply on the outboard side of the outer wing rib. > There is no problem of interference with any of this, and in > fact, the installation diagram shows how to route strobe and > nav wires across his antenna. > > In short, it works great and there are no problems. I too have the Archer nav/loc/gs wingtip antenna, and I have a Whelen strobe power supply perhaps 4 inches from the antenna, mounted on the spar just inboard of the outboard rib. It seems to work well, and when the nav audio is on, I can hear a faint tick-tick-tick each time the strobes fire, but it is much fainter than the audio coming in. Alex Peterson Maple Grove, MN RV6-A N66AP hours www.rvforum.org www.usfamily.net/web/alexpeterson ________________________________ Message 38 ____________________________________ Time: 07:58:10 PM PST US From: "Ralph E. Capen" Subject: Fw: RV-List: Hole In Skin --> RV-List message posted by: "Ralph E. Capen" Glenn, I kinda did the same thing...if you're using a prepunched skin, you can swap it for the other one...putting the offending hole on the bottom...if it's not near a spar or rib - it's already dimpled so you can put a rivet in it and a little filler right before painting and noone but you will know where it is. If it's near a spar or rib (my offense), flatten it out and fill it later when you're finishing your tips (a little resin/microballoon mix that you're gonna use elsewhere anyway). First try swapping the skins... I've already had my anonymity removed from me on this one... Pictures if you want them...zap me directly... Ralph Capen RV6A Texas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Brasch" Subject: RV-List: Hole In Skin > --> RV-List message posted by: "Glenn Brasch" > > Dimpling a HS skin with a pneumatic as I am about to call it a night the thing slips as I pull the trigger and I put a very nice hole in my skin. Of course it is on the top side. It is 1" from the aft end and 1" in from the tip. I am not sure how the fiberglass tips come into play later, but I don't think it will help me in covering the hole. Is this something I can repair in the finishing/painting process, or should I right now chalk it up to my stupidity and buy a new skin? Your comments are appreciated in advance. Wish I could remain anonymous! Glenn in Arizona. -9A Emp. > > ________________________________ Message 39 ____________________________________ Time: 08:02:14 PM PST US From: "Glenn Brasch" Subject: RV-List: Hole in Skin Resolved --> RV-List message posted by: "Glenn Brasch" It didn't take Scott Brown long to solve my problem (about 5 minutes) to put a rivet in the hole, which will be covered later in the finishing process. DUH! Looks good already. Thanks! ________________________________ Message 40 ____________________________________ Time: 09:09:54 PM PST US From: "Randall Henderson" Subject: Re: RV-List: Operating Limitations --> RV-List message posted by: "Randall Henderson" > Anyone on the list have experience with getting a replacement copy of a > lost Operating Limitations document? I am not referring to getting the > original > language revised, just getting an FAA blessed copy of the original. > I am interested in procedure followed, and how long it took to get the > new document in hand. No direct experience with it but the FSDO through which the airworthiness certificate was issued should have it on file -- if you know which office it is and can go in there, I'd think you'd be able to go in and get it pretty quickly. At any rate I would think that's the place to start, rather than OKC. Randall Henderson, RV-6 N6R (~450 hrs) Portland, OR www.vanshomewing.org ________________________________ Message 41 ____________________________________ Time: 09:12:44 PM PST US Subject: RV-List: Break pedal geom From: Gary Graham --> RV-List message posted by: Gary Graham A simple fix for the RV-8 break pedal/ rudder pedal is to replace the individual # 3 bolts at the pivot point with an aprox. 7.5" (buy the proper grip length) bolt that goes clear through the pedal(threads to the outside). This is covered with a built up rubber hose foot pad. My pal Scott used an alum. tube with rubber hose over it so that as the pedal moved the pad would roll. This was all copied from an antique Belanca(sp). So simple, so great, GG ________________________________ Message 42 ____________________________________ Time: 09:13:01 PM PST US From: "Randall Henderson" Subject: Re: RV-List: Hole In Skin --> RV-List message posted by: "Randall Henderson" > > Welcome to the "What's that hole for?" club... 8-) A-men! If I had a dollar for every RV builder who did that I'd have... well, let's see, how many RVs have been built to date? :-) Seriously though, just stick a rivet in it and move on. Randall Henderson, RV-6 N6R (~450 hrs) Portland, OR www.vanshomewing.org ________________________________ Message 43 ____________________________________ Time: 09:13:59 PM PST US From: "Karen and Robert Brown" Subject: RV-List: Engine help --> RV-List message posted by: "Karen and Robert Brown" I may be able to buy a Lycoming at a good price...I'm not sure whether it's an engine I want or not. Here's the story... The engine was sold with a Glasair kit, is an IO-360B1E, and was manufactured (he thinks) in 1985. It is still pickled in original crate. It has been in a dry climate (Nevada) since it left the factory. I am not sure if this engine would be subject to the oil pump AD or what other AD's it would be subject to. I will get the serial number of the engine tomorrow and try to find out some more details...but if anyone could help me out on advice on whether this would be suitable for my RV-7, I would appreciate it. I want a forward facing induction...and I don't know how this engine is set up, nor what fuel injection system it may have. Are there any other concerns I should have about buying this engine? Help! Bob Brown ________________________________ Message 44 ____________________________________ Time: 09:18:23 PM PST US From: "Jim Jewell" Subject: Re: RV-List: Hole In Skin --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" Hello Glenn, 'If I read your description right the damage you describe will not be a risk to overall structural integrity.' Is the unwanted hole well clear of the rivet line that will join the skin to the framework? If the hole will be clear of the underlying structural frame flange, the repair can be as simple as putting a rivet in the hole and carrying on. The offending rivet head can then be filled and sanded smooth at paint prep time. If the hole will intersect with the underlying structural flange so that the shop head will interfere with that structure it might be easy to drill and dimple the structural flange and add an 'out of place' rivet. If putting a rivet in the hole will result in the rivet's shop head interfering with the radius of the structural flange (Murphy's Law predicts this condition) (:-{! you might be wise to carefully re-flatten the unwanted dimple with the rivet squeezer. To practice flattening the dimple do this; Dimple a piece of scrap material of the same thickness. Then use your squeezer 'not too' aggressively several times to squeeze the dimple flat. Try to focus the center of the squeezer's force around the edge of the hole. Avoid squeezing directly on the center of the hole. The outcome should leave a hole with a very slight mark or low ridge around it. This can be filed and filled etc. at paint prep time. Keeping in mind that this should not be done anywhere that would risk structural integrity: If you feel you must not have a hole, try practicing this. Drill a rivet hole in some scrap. Machine dimple or aggressively de-burr two thirds into the scrap's thickness from one side. Then one third in from the other side. Cut a rivet very short, the shank should be about the thickness of the scrap material. Squeeze the rivet into the hole. The trick is not to squeeze so tight as to deform the material around the hole but tight enough to for the rivet to grab a good hold. You will be left with a rivet head that will stand proud of the surface on both sides of the scrap. When filed off there will be little trace of the repaired hole. Note; Check your female dimple die for the presence of the aluminum material that got punched out during your miss-adventure. if you find some drill it out, If left in there it could be the cause of quite a few poorly formed dimples in the days ahead. This rule generally works: When in doubt leave it temporarily and move on to the next thing to be done. Coming back later to mistreaks gives you time gain some more experiance and to relax and come up with the right choice of action. In all cases when the crap hits the fan, a call and a question to Van's will not lead you astray. Good luck with the building, Do not archive Jim in Kelowna ...Yet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Brasch" Subject: RV-List: Hole In Skin > --> RV-List message posted by: "Glenn Brasch" > > Dimpling a HS skin with a pneumatic as I am about to call it a night the thing slips as I pull the trigger and I put a very nice hole in my skin. Of course it is on the top side. It is 1" from the aft end and 1" in from the tip. I am not sure how the fiberglass tips come into play later, but I don't think it will help me in covering the hole. Is this something I can repair in the finishing/painting process, or should I right now chalk it up to my stupidity and buy a new skin? Your comments are appreciated in advance. Wish I could remain anonymous! Glenn in Arizona. -9A Emp. > > ________________________________ Message 45 ____________________________________ Time: 09:27:06 PM PST US Subject: RV-List: Break pedal geom From: Gary Graham --> RV-List message posted by: Gary Graham I forgot to to give the long bolt details, IIRC The bolt was a plated 1/4" and fit the weldment perfectly therefore I must have misstated the original bolt size as #3 should have been #4 (R1) GG ________________________________ Message 46 ____________________________________ Time: 10:06:05 PM PST US From: "Tom Gummo" Subject: Re: RV-List: Operating Limitations --> RV-List message posted by: "Tom Gummo" My DAR stated that he would keep copies if I ever needed them. Might want to check him. Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randall Henderson" Subject: Re: RV-List: Operating Limitations > --> RV-List message posted by: "Randall Henderson" > > > Anyone on the list have experience with getting a replacement copy of a > > lost Operating Limitations document? I am not referring to getting the > > original > > language revised, just getting an FAA blessed copy of the original. > > I am interested in procedure followed, and how long it took to get the > > new document in hand. > > No direct experience with it but the FSDO through which the airworthiness > certificate was issued should have it on file -- if you know which office it > is and can go in there, I'd think you'd be able to go in and get it pretty > quickly. At any rate I would think that's the place to start, rather than > OKC. > > Randall Henderson, RV-6 N6R (~450 hrs) > Portland, OR > www.vanshomewing.org > > ________________________________ Message 47 ____________________________________ Time: 11:39:28 PM PST US From: "Ken And Gretchen" Subject: Re: RV-List: Fw: Engines-List: Re: Engines-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 03/17/03 --> RV-List message posted by: "Ken And Gretchen" If you are interested I just took a 0-320 h2ad out of my rv 6a and replaced it with a subaru. It was runing great when I took it out but was geting a weak cylinder that was giving me high egt temps, may be a valve 2000 hrs. Complete firewall foward with oil cooler air shields light weight starter Great planes engine anyliser exhaust heater ducting motor mounts prop and air vacumn pump pluse vavume gages and everything else firewall foward Only 12,000 today. E-mail ken@soundsuckers.com Eastern Oregon ----- Original Message ----- From: "C. Rabaut" Subject: RV-List: Fw: Engines-List: Re: Engines-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 03/17/03 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Greg P Jannakos > To: > Subject: Engines-List: Re: Engines-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 03/17/03 > > > > --> Engines-List message posted by: Greg P Jannakos > > > > > > I'm looking for an engine for sale to install on my Zodiac CH601HDS. > > Anyone have one for sale? > > Greg Jannakos > > gpjann@juno.com > > > > > >