RV-List Digest Archive

Mon 03/24/03


Total Messages Posted: 26



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 03:47 AM - Re: Stealth RV (Kevin Horton)
     2. 04:02 AM - Re: Stealth RV (Dana Overall)
     3. 06:42 AM - Re: shimmy (Scott Bilinski)
     4. 06:56 AM - horizontal stabilizer riveting (Bruce Anthony)
     5. 07:35 AM - Manifold pressure gage (Dave von Linsowe)
     6. 07:51 AM - Tail is ordered! Band saw deal. (Bill Dube)
     7. 08:03 AM - new aviation dictionary (Aircraft Technical Book Company)
     8. 08:24 AM - Leaky carb (Van Artsdalen, Scott)
     9. 08:46 AM - OSHKOSH (Van Artsdalen, Scott)
    10. 09:25 AM - Re: Leaky carb (Phil Birkelbach)
    11. 09:27 AM - Re: Manifold pressure gage (Denis Walsh)
    12. 09:51 AM - Re: OSHKOSH (Keith Vasey)
    13. 10:08 AM - Re: Leaky carb (Craig Warner)
    14. 12:54 PM - Re: Horizontal Stabilizer Riveting (Bruce Anthony)
    15. 01:40 PM - VAL Avionics radios (Eric Whiteside)
    16. 02:35 PM - Re: Leaky carb (Garth Shearing)
    17. 04:10 PM - Re: VAL Avionics radios (Joe Hine)
    18. 05:12 PM - Fw: AeroElectric-List: Push to Talk Switch Wiring (Tom & Cathy Ervin)
    19. 05:32 PM - Vans full caster tailwheel (RVer273sb@aol.com)
    20. 05:56 PM - Re: Leaky carb (Jim Jewell)
    21. 07:17 PM - Re: Leaky carb (Alex Peterson)
    22. 07:29 PM - Re: horizontal stabilizer riveting (Karie Daniel)
    23. 07:39 PM - Vacuum Stuff (Jim Bean)
    24. 09:51 PM - Re: Manifold pressure gage (Vanremog@aol.com)
    25. 10:20 PM - Glass Panels vs Vac Gyros. (j1j2h3@juno.com)
    26. 11:03 PM - Re: Glass Panels vs Vac Gyros. (Jim Jewell)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:47:34 AM PST US
    From: Kevin Horton <khorto1537@rogers.com>
    Subject: Re: Stealth RV
    --> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorto1537@rogers.com> >--> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com> > >I've seen a reference of a black 4 in the archives. Does anyone know where >I can find a picture of this, or any other, black RV. > >Dana Overall Tom Martin used to have a black -4, I believe, before he got into Rockets. You can probably find his e-mail address in the archives and ask him if he has a photo he can send you. -- Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit) Ottawa, Canada http://go.phpwebhosting.com/~khorton/rv8/


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    Time: 04:02:34 AM PST US
    From: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Stealth RV
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com> Thanks for all the replies, I have been sent 5 pictures of this black 4 along with a shot of a black rocket. BTW, the boat sold as of this Thursday. I can now take those boat pictures off the website, now I just need to find someone who wants a good Bonanza. The two happiest days in a boat owners life.........the day you buy it and the day you sell it. Gots play money!! Dana Overall Richmond, KY RV-7 slider/fuselage http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive


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    Time: 06:42:44 AM PST US
    From: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
    Subject: Re: shimmy
    --> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com> I have an 8a (not flown yet) and when I installed the landing gear weldments I noticed that the bolts will not pull down the weldment to the aluminium. So, I thought lets simulate a hard landing, got a rubber mallot and wacked the landing gear weldments about 4 times each. Everytime I did this I was able to tighten the bolts about 1/4 turn more. So I dont how your landing gear is attached but check the bolts and see what you find. FWIW At 06:50 PM 3/22/03 -0500, you wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Dave von Linsowe" <davevon@tir.com> > >I seem to be getting a lot of shimmy on the main gear and tailwheel on my >RV-6 during landing roll out, that seems to be getting worse. A fast taxi, >tail down, will cause it sometimes too. I've got the stiffeners in the gear >legs. I've recently switch to the Jantzi steering link, but it didn't seem >to make any difference one way or the other. > >It doesn't do it every time, the tailwheel seems to do it more often than >the main gear. Although, it may be just the tailwheel and may just feel >like the main gear are going too. I'm thinking it's an alignment problem, >but which way? The tailwheel pivot is not vertical, but slanted back >slightly which may be the main culprit. How do you fix that? The tailwheel >rod isn't bent. The main gear tires don't show any signs of abnormal wear. >No problems on takeoff or wheel landings until the tailwheel is on the >ground. Has anyone else run into this? > >Thanks, >Dave >RV-6 > > Scott Bilinski Eng dept 305 Phone (858) 657-2536 Pager (858) 502-5190


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    Time: 06:56:09 AM PST US
    Subject: horizontal stabilizer riveting
    From: "Bruce Anthony" <bruce.anthony@holidaycompanies.com>
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Bruce Anthony" <bruce.anthony@holidaycompanies.com> Need some advice on riveting a nose rib in a 9A horizontal stabilizer. I put in the end ribs first to give the stabilizer some form, but now that I'm trying to rivet in the middle rib, I get a depression deformation in the skin right at the rib. How do I avoid this? Should I drill out the end ribs and do the middle one first? Would clecoing in the forward spar help? Thanks. Bruce Anthony RV9A Horizontal Stabilizer


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    Time: 07:35:25 AM PST US
    From: "Dave von Linsowe" <davevon@tir.com>
    Subject: Manifold pressure gage
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Dave von Linsowe" <davevon@tir.com> I have a couple of years old with 260hrs, UMA manifold pressure gage that's reading a little over an inch off. I'm tired of always compensating for it. I'm planning on up grading to engine monitoring system so I don't want spend the money for a overhaul. Has anyone pulled one of these apart and adjusted it themselves? Thanks, Dave RV-6


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    Time: 07:51:38 AM PST US
    From: Bill Dube <bdube@boulder.nist.gov>
    Subject: Tail is ordered! Band saw deal.
    --> RV-List message posted by: Bill Dube <bdube@boulder.nist.gov> Well, the tail for my RV-7A is on its way. I ordered it last Friday. Exciting stuff. Got a super deal on a Band Saw from Harbor Freight. They have a 14 inch, 1 HP, four-speed band saw on sale for $219 (regularly $319.) Such a deal! Bought a drill press on sale at the same time for $179 (regularly $279.) I have no idea how they make these tools (and ship them to the USA) for so little money. My garage is all ready structurally. I put in a new overhead door and replaced the sagging 90 year-old header. Just in time, a might add. We got almost three feet of wet snow three days after I finished putting in the last support. I'm certain my flat-roof garage would have collapsed, like 100's of others in Denver, if I hadn't rebuilt the support structure. Now all I have to do is get all the junk out of the garage that has accumulated over the years. : ) Can't wait to start squeezing rivets! Bill Dube'


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    Time: 08:03:53 AM PST US
    From: "Aircraft Technical Book Company" <winterland@rkymtnhi.com>
    Subject: new aviation dictionary
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Aircraft Technical Book Company" <winterland@rkymtnhi.com> Just released from Jeppesen: AVIATION DICTIONARY This is the newest and most complete aviation dictionary with over 10,000 definitions of aviation related terms for pilots and technicians including acronyms and abbreviations. All the "V" speeds, 4 definitions of "flare", pilot-controller terms, etc. See more at: http://buildersbooks.com/aviation_dictionary.htm 2003 FLIGHT LIBRARY - CD The 2003 updates of these CDs are finally available. 2 versions - Standard and Pro. The standard contains about 450 FAA books and advisory circulars including AC-43.13, A&P Handbooks AC-65 series, All the FARs, AIM, test standards, aviation weather, instrument and CFI handbooks, etc. The pro version adds every AD and STC ever written, NTSB and EPA regs, aviation law, and more. It's absolutely amazing how much data fits on 4" of plastic. See more at: http://buildersbooks.com/flight_library_cds.htm Thanks, Andy ..... thought the Colorado snow was finally starting to melt and the airport re-open and we can fly again. But no! 4-5 more inches today and then another foot by the weekend. Well, at least the skiing is good, and Denver-ites will be able to water their lawns this summer. ;-) do not archive


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    Time: 08:24:36 AM PST US
    From: "Van Artsdalen, Scott" <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
    Subject: Leaky carb
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen, Scott" <svanarts@unionsafe.com> At least I think it is. I've noticed that after I shut down, I get a pool of gas in my FAB. I have a drain point in the lowest point of the FAB and the gas drips out of that, onto my cowling and out. This can't be normal can it? Anything I can or should check? -- Scott VanArtsdalen Network Manager Union Safe Deposit Bank 209-946-5116 <html xmlns:o"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <meta nameProgId contentWord.Document> <link relFile-List href"cid:filelist.xml@01C2F1DE.0C566EE0"> <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:OfficeDocumentSettings> <o:DoNotRelyOnCSS/> </o:OfficeDocumentSettings> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:SpellingState>Clean</w:SpellingState> <w:GrammarState>Clean</w:GrammarState> <w:DocumentKind>DocumentEmail</w:DocumentKind> <w:EnvelopeVis/> <w:Compatibility> <w:BreakWrappedTables/> <w:SnapToGridInCell/> <w:WrapTextWithPunct/> <w:UseAsianBreakRules/> </w:Compatibility> <w:BrowserLevel>MicrosoftInternetExplorer4</w:BrowserLevel> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--> <style> <!-- /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {mso-style-parent:""; margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:blue; text-decoration:underline; text-underline:single;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple; text-decoration:underline; text-underline:single;} span.EmailStyle17 {mso-style-type:personal-compose; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial; mso-ascii-font-family:Arial; mso-hansi-font-family:Arial; mso-bidi-font-family:Arial; color:windowtext;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; mso-header-margin:.5in; mso-footer-margin:.5in; mso-paper-source:0;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style> <!--[if gte mso 10]> <style> /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} </style> <![endif]--> <body langEN-US linkblue vlinkpurple style'tab-interval:.5in'> <span style'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>At least I think it is. I've noticed that after I shut down, I get a pool of gas in my FAB. I have a drain point in the lowest point of the FAB and the gas drips out of that, onto my cowling and out. <span style'mso-spacerun:yes'>This can't be normal can it?<span style'mso-spacerun:yes'> Anything I can or should check?<o:p></o:p> <span style'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p> <span style'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial;mso-no-proof:yes'>--<span style'mso-no-proof: yes'><o:p></o:p> <span style'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'>Scott VanArtsdalen<o:p></o:p> <span style'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:gray;mso-no-proof:yes'>Network Manager<span style'mso-no-proof:yes'><o:p></o:p> <span style'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:gray;mso-no-proof:yes'>Union Safe Deposit Bank<span style'mso-no-proof:yes'><o:p></o:p> <span style'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:gray;mso-no-proof:yes'>209-946-5116<o:p></o:p> <span style'font-size: 12.0pt'><o:p></o:p>


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    Time: 08:46:27 AM PST US
    From: "Van Artsdalen, Scott" <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
    Subject: OSHKOSH
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen, Scott" <svanarts@unionsafe.com> I know this is REALLY early to be talking about OSH but I'm really excited because this is my first year going there. We have a flight of 3 RVs that will be traveling from Oakdale, Ca (O27). Anyone interested in forming a squadron? Any we might be able to join? Bad Cat Rob is wanting to make the entire trip in one day. That's a bit much for this fat old pilot. Any good camping places about halfway there (from California)? Good routes? Any trip reports online for OSH? -- Scott VanArtsdalen Network Manager Union Safe Deposit Bank 209-946-5116 <html xmlns:o"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:st1"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" xmlns"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <meta nameProgId contentWord.Document> <link relFile-List href"cid:filelist.xml@01C2F1E1.046F64E0"> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name"State"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name"City"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name"place"/> <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:OfficeDocumentSettings> <o:DoNotRelyOnCSS/> </o:OfficeDocumentSettings> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:SpellingState>Clean</w:SpellingState> <w:GrammarState>Clean</w:GrammarState> <w:DocumentKind>DocumentEmail</w:DocumentKind> <w:EnvelopeVis/> <w:Compatibility> <w:BreakWrappedTables/> <w:SnapToGridInCell/> <w:WrapTextWithPunct/> <w:UseAsianBreakRules/> </w:Compatibility> <w:BrowserLevel>MicrosoftInternetExplorer4</w:BrowserLevel> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if !mso]> <style> st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } </style> <![endif]--> <style> <!-- /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {mso-style-parent:""; margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:blue; text-decoration:underline; text-underline:single;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple; text-decoration:underline; text-underline:single;} span.EmailStyle17 {mso-style-type:personal-compose; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial; mso-ascii-font-family:Arial; mso-hansi-font-family:Arial; mso-bidi-font-family:Arial; color:windowtext;} span.GramE {mso-style-name:""; mso-gram-e:yes;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; mso-header-margin:.5in; mso-footer-margin:.5in; mso-paper-source:0;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style> <!--[if gte mso 10]> <style> /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} </style> <![endif]--> <body langEN-US linkblue vlinkpurple style'tab-interval:.5in'> <span style'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>I know this is REALLY early to be talking about <st1:City><st1:place><font size2 faceArial><span style'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>OSH</st1:place></st1:City><font size2 faceArial><span style'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> but I'm really excited because this is my first year going there.<span style'mso-spacerun:yes'> We have a flight of 3 RVs that will be traveling from Oakdale, Ca (O27). Anyone interested in forming a squadron? Any we might be able to join? Bad Cat Rob <span classGramE>is wanting to make the entire trip in one day. <span style'mso-spacerun:yes'>That's a bit much for this fat old pilot. Any good camping places about halfway there (from <st1:State><st1:place><font size2 faceArial><span style'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>California</st1:place></st1:State><font size2 faceArial><span style'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>)?<span style'mso-spacerun:yes'> Good routes? Any trip reports online for OSH?<o:p></o:p> <span style'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p> <span style'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial;mso-no-proof:yes'>--<span style'mso-no-proof: yes'><o:p></o:p> <span style'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'>Scott VanArtsdalen<o:p></o:p> <span style'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:gray;mso-no-proof:yes'>Network Manager<span style'mso-no-proof:yes'><o:p></o:p> <span style'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:gray;mso-no-proof:yes'>Union Safe Deposit Bank<span style'mso-no-proof:yes'><o:p></o:p> <span style'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:gray;mso-no-proof:yes'>209-946-5116<o:p></o:p> <span style'font-size: 12.0pt'><o:p></o:p>


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    Time: 09:25:06 AM PST US
    From: "Phil Birkelbach" <phil@petrasoft.net>
    Subject: Re: Leaky carb
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Phil Birkelbach" <phil@petrasoft.net> I don't know much about airplane carbs but a friend in my EAA chapter had a similar problem in his RV-6 and it turned out to be the float valve. Godspeed, Phil Birkelbach - Houston Texas RV-7 N727WB (Reserved) - Fuselage http://www.myrv7.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Van Artsdalen, Scott" <svanarts@unionsafe.com> Subject: RV-List: Leaky carb > --> RV-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen, Scott" <svanarts@unionsafe.com> > > At least I think it is. I've noticed that after I shut down, I get a pool > of gas in my FAB. I have a drain point in the lowest point of the FAB and > the gas drips out of that, onto my cowling and out. This can't be normal > can it? Anything I can or should check? > > -- > Scott VanArtsdalen > Network Manager > Union Safe Deposit Bank > 209-946-5116 > > > <html xmlns:o"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> > > > <meta nameProgId contentWord.Document> > > > <link relFile-List href"cid:filelist.xml@01C2F1DE.0C566EE0"> > <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> > <o:OfficeDocumentSettings> > <o:DoNotRelyOnCSS/> > </o:OfficeDocumentSettings> > </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> > <w:WordDocument> > <w:SpellingState>Clean</w:SpellingState> > <w:GrammarState>Clean</w:GrammarState> > <w:DocumentKind>DocumentEmail</w:DocumentKind> > <w:EnvelopeVis/> > <w:Compatibility> > <w:BreakWrappedTables/> > <w:SnapToGridInCell/> > <w:WrapTextWithPunct/> > <w:UseAsianBreakRules/> > </w:Compatibility> > <w:BrowserLevel>MicrosoftInternetExplorer4</w:BrowserLevel> > </w:WordDocument> > </xml><![endif]--> > <style> > <!-- > /* Style Definitions */ > p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal > {mso-style-parent:""; > margin:0in; > margin-bottom:.0001pt; > mso-pagination:widow-orphan; > font-size:12.0pt; > font-family:"Times New Roman"; > mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";} > a:link, span.MsoHyperlink > {color:blue; > text-decoration:underline; > text-underline:single;} > a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed > {color:purple; > text-decoration:underline; > text-underline:single;} > span.EmailStyle17 > {mso-style-type:personal-compose; > mso-style-noshow:yes; > mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt; > mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt; > font-family:Arial; > mso-ascii-font-family:Arial; > mso-hansi-font-family:Arial; > mso-bidi-font-family:Arial; > color:windowtext;} > @page Section1 > {size:8.5in 11.0in; > margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; > mso-header-margin:.5in; > mso-footer-margin:.5in; > mso-paper-source:0;} > div.Section1 > {page:Section1;} > --> > </style> > <!--[if gte mso 10]> > <style> > /* Style Definitions */ > table.MsoNormalTable > {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; > mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; > mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; > mso-style-noshow:yes; > mso-style-parent:""; > mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; > mso-para-margin:0in; > mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; > mso-pagination:widow-orphan; > font-size:10.0pt; > font-family:"Times New Roman";} > </style> > <![endif]--> > > > <body langEN-US linkblue vlinkpurple style'tab-interval:.5in'> > > > <span style'font-size:10.0pt; > font-family:Arial'>At least I think it is. > I've noticed that after I shut down, I get a pool of gas in my > FAB. I have a drain point in the lowest > point of the FAB and the gas drips out of that, onto my cowling and out. <span > style'mso-spacerun:yes'>This can't be normal can it?<span > style'mso-spacerun:yes'> Anything I can or should check?<o:p></o:p> > > > <span style'font-size:10.0pt; > font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p> > > > <span style'font-size:10.0pt; > font-family:Arial;mso-no-proof:yes'>--<span style'mso-no-proof: > yes'><o:p></o:p> > > > <span > style'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'>Scott > VanArtsdalen<o:p></o:p> > > > <span style'font-size: > 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:gray;mso-no-proof:yes'>Network Manager<span > style'mso-no-proof:yes'><o:p></o:p> > > > <span style'font-size: > 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:gray;mso-no-proof:yes'>Union Safe Deposit Bank<span > style'mso-no-proof:yes'><o:p></o:p> > > > <span style'font-size: > 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:gray;mso-no-proof:yes'>209-946-5116<o:p></o:p > > > <span style'font-size: > 12.0pt'><o:p></o:p> > >


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    Time: 09:27:34 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Manifold pressure gage
    From: Denis Walsh <denis.walsh@attbi.com>
    --> RV-List message posted by: Denis Walsh <denis.walsh@attbi.com> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Dave von Linsowe" <davevon@tir.com> > > I have a couple of years old with 260hrs, UMA manifold pressure gage that's > reading a little over an inch off. I'm tired of always compensating for it. > I'm planning on up grading to engine monitoring system so I don't want spend > the money for a overhaul. Has anyone pulled one of these apart and adjusted > it themselves? > > Thanks, > Dave > RV-6 > > Glad you asked. Yes I did. Really buggered it up. This was about four years ago. I wound up breaking the glass and having a real sorry instrument on my hands. It seems the case itself is one of the vacuum chambers. The story has a happy ending however. I got the UMA phone number from an instrument shop and called them. They had a very reasonable, set price to overhaul it. When I got it back it was better than new, and in a short time. Highly recommend you give them a call. Sorry I no longer have the number. Denis


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    Time: 09:51:41 AM PST US
    From: "Keith Vasey" <keith@galvinflying.com>
    Subject: OSHKOSH
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Keith Vasey" <keith@galvinflying.com> I would suggest the three of you arrive at OSH via Kittyhawk and participate in the Airventure Cup. I did it last year and it was a hoot. Guaranteed parking at show center and a free week pass for the big show. The beni's are greater than the cost of the entry fee. It's one of the most fun things I have done in aviation. The non-turbo guys were skimming the tree-tops in a "low-level waiver" and calling out radio towers on our discrete race frequency. My father intends to enter this year with his nearly flying RV-3. Keith Vasey Seattle "Race Four" 2002 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Van Artsdalen, Scott Subject: RV-List: OSHKOSH --> RV-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen, Scott" <svanarts@unionsafe.com> I know this is REALLY early to be talking about OSH but I'm really excited because this is my first year going there. We have a flight of 3 RVs that will be traveling from Oakdale, Ca (O27). Anyone interested in forming a squadron? Any we might be able to join? Bad Cat Rob is wanting to make the entire trip in one day. That's a bit much for this fat old pilot. Any good camping places about halfway there (from California)? Good routes? Any trip reports online for OSH? -- Scott VanArtsdalen Network Manager Union Safe Deposit Bank 209-946-5116 <html xmlns:o"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:st1"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" xmlns"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <meta nameProgId contentWord.Document> <link relFile-List href"cid:filelist.xml@01C2F1E1.046F64E0"> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name"State"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name"City"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name"place"/> <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:OfficeDocumentSettings> <o:DoNotRelyOnCSS/> </o:OfficeDocumentSettings> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:SpellingState>Clean</w:SpellingState> <w:GrammarState>Clean</w:GrammarState> <w:DocumentKind>DocumentEmail</w:DocumentKind> <w:EnvelopeVis/> <w:Compatibility> <w:BreakWrappedTables/> <w:SnapToGridInCell/> <w:WrapTextWithPunct/> <w:UseAsianBreakRules/> </w:Compatibility> <w:BrowserLevel>MicrosoftInternetExplorer4</w:BrowserLevel> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if !mso]> <style> st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } </style> <![endif]--> <style> <!-- /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {mso-style-parent:""; margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:blue; text-decoration:underline; text-underline:single;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple; text-decoration:underline; text-underline:single;} span.EmailStyle17 {mso-style-type:personal-compose; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial; mso-ascii-font-family:Arial; mso-hansi-font-family:Arial; mso-bidi-font-family:Arial; color:windowtext;} span.GramE {mso-style-name:""; mso-gram-e:yes;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; mso-header-margin:.5in; mso-footer-margin:.5in; mso-paper-source:0;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style> <!--[if gte mso 10]> <style> /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} </style> <![endif]--> <body langEN-US linkblue vlinkpurple style'tab-interval:.5in'> <span style'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>I know this is REALLY early to be talking about <st1:City><st1:place><font size2 faceArial><span style'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>OSH</st1:place></st1:City><font size2 faceArial><span style'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> but I'm really excited because this is my first year going there.<span style'mso-spacerun:yes'> We have a flight of 3 RVs that will be traveling from Oakdale, Ca (O27). Anyone interested in forming a squadron? Any we might be able to join? Bad Cat Rob <span classGramE>is wanting to make the entire trip in one day. <span style'mso-spacerun:yes'>That's a bit much for this fat old pilot. Any good camping places about halfway there (from <st1:State><st1:place><font size2 faceArial><span style'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>California</st1:place></st1:State> <font size2 faceArial><span style'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>)?<span style'mso-spacerun:yes'> Good routes? Any trip reports online for OSH?<o:p></o:p> <span style'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p> <span style'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial;mso-no-proof:yes'>--<span style'mso-no-proof: yes'><o:p></o:p> <span style'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'>Scott VanArtsdalen<o:p></o:p> <span style'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:gray;mso-no-proof:yes'>Network Manager<span style'mso-no-proof:yes'><o:p></o:p> <span style'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:gray;mso-no-proof:yes'>Union Safe Deposit Bank<span style'mso-no-proof:yes'><o:p></o:p> <span style'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:gray;mso-no-proof:yes'>209-946-5116<o:p></o:p > <span style'font-size: 12.0pt'><o:p></o:p>


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    Time: 10:08:36 AM PST US
    From: "Craig Warner" <cwarner@twcny.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Leaky carb
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Craig Warner" <cwarner@twcny.rr.com> Check that the primer is in and locked. Also look at the diaphram in the primer for a tear. Thats hwere my leak was. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Van Artsdalen, Scott" <svanarts@unionsafe.com> Subject: RV-List: Leaky carb > --> RV-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen, Scott" <svanarts@unionsafe.com> > > At least I think it is. I've noticed that after I shut down, I get a pool > of gas in my FAB. I have a drain point in the lowest point of the FAB and > the gas drips out of that, onto my cowling and out. This can't be normal > can it? Anything I can or should check? > > -- > Scott VanArtsdalen > Network Manager > Union Safe Deposit Bank > 209-946-5116 > > > <html xmlns:o"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> > > > <meta nameProgId contentWord.Document> > > > <link relFile-List href"cid:filelist.xml@01C2F1DE.0C566EE0"> > <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> > <o:OfficeDocumentSettings> > <o:DoNotRelyOnCSS/> > </o:OfficeDocumentSettings> > </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> > <w:WordDocument> > <w:SpellingState>Clean</w:SpellingState> > <w:GrammarState>Clean</w:GrammarState> > <w:DocumentKind>DocumentEmail</w:DocumentKind> > <w:EnvelopeVis/> > <w:Compatibility> > <w:BreakWrappedTables/> > <w:SnapToGridInCell/> > <w:WrapTextWithPunct/> > <w:UseAsianBreakRules/> > </w:Compatibility> > <w:BrowserLevel>MicrosoftInternetExplorer4</w:BrowserLevel> > </w:WordDocument> > </xml><![endif]--> > <style> > <!-- > /* Style Definitions */ > p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal > {mso-style-parent:""; > margin:0in; > margin-bottom:.0001pt; > mso-pagination:widow-orphan; > font-size:12.0pt; > font-family:"Times New Roman"; > mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";} > a:link, span.MsoHyperlink > {color:blue; > text-decoration:underline; > text-underline:single;} > a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed > {color:purple; > text-decoration:underline; > text-underline:single;} > span.EmailStyle17 > {mso-style-type:personal-compose; > mso-style-noshow:yes; > mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt; > mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt; > font-family:Arial; > mso-ascii-font-family:Arial; > mso-hansi-font-family:Arial; > mso-bidi-font-family:Arial; > color:windowtext;} > @page Section1 > {size:8.5in 11.0in; > margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; > mso-header-margin:.5in; > mso-footer-margin:.5in; > mso-paper-source:0;} > div.Section1 > {page:Section1;} > --> > </style> > <!--[if gte mso 10]> > <style> > /* Style Definitions */ > table.MsoNormalTable > {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; > mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; > mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; > mso-style-noshow:yes; > mso-style-parent:""; > mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; > mso-para-margin:0in; > mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; > mso-pagination:widow-orphan; > font-size:10.0pt; > font-family:"Times New Roman";} > </style> > <![endif]--> > > > <body langEN-US linkblue vlinkpurple style'tab-interval:.5in'> > > > <span style'font-size:10.0pt; > font-family:Arial'>At least I think it is. > I've noticed that after I shut down, I get a pool of gas in my > FAB. I have a drain point in the lowest > point of the FAB and the gas drips out of that, onto my cowling and out. <span > style'mso-spacerun:yes'>This can't be normal can it?<span > style'mso-spacerun:yes'> Anything I can or should check?<o:p></o:p> > > > <span style'font-size:10.0pt; > font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p> > > > <span style'font-size:10.0pt; > font-family:Arial;mso-no-proof:yes'>--<span style'mso-no-proof: > yes'><o:p></o:p> > > > <span > style'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'>Scott > VanArtsdalen<o:p></o:p> > > > <span style'font-size: > 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:gray;mso-no-proof:yes'>Network Manager<span > style'mso-no-proof:yes'><o:p></o:p> > > > <span style'font-size: > 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:gray;mso-no-proof:yes'>Union Safe Deposit Bank<span > style'mso-no-proof:yes'><o:p></o:p> > > > <span style'font-size: > 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:gray;mso-no-proof:yes'>209-946-5116<o:p></o:p > > > <span style'font-size: > 12.0pt'><o:p></o:p> > >


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    Time: 12:54:49 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Horizontal Stabilizer Riveting
    From: "Bruce Anthony" <bruce.anthony@holidaycompanies.com>
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Bruce Anthony" <bruce.anthony@holidaycompanies.com> Finally found something in the archive that seems to address the problem. Should have looked harder. Never mind. Bruce Anthony RV9A Empennage


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    Time: 01:40:07 PM PST US
    From: "Eric Whiteside" <erwhites@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: VAL Avionics radios
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Eric Whiteside" <erwhites@bellsouth.net> Anyone have experience with products from VAL Avionics? I am looking at their INS 422 TSO which combines VOR/ILS/Marker receivers with CDI in a 3.125 round instrument case. I am interested in any experiences with reliability and usability. Thanks, Eric Whiteside


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    Time: 02:35:08 PM PST US
    From: "Garth Shearing" <garth@Islandnet.com>
    Subject: Re: Leaky carb
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Garth Shearing" <garth@islandnet.com> It could also be normal! In carburetor systems, raw fuel can condense on the walls of the induction system when the engine is running. The amount depends on environmental temperatures, etc. The induction system walls can get very cold due to venturi effects and fuel vapourization. This condensed fuel is kept on the walls by the air/gas mixture roaring by when the engine is operating, but when it shuts down, the fuel simply runs out the bottom. This characteristic can be dangerous if an intake valve is so bad that this intake manifold gas and its associated vapour is ignited during restart. The FAB drain hole is a good idea because it lets this fuel run out of the intake assembly reasonably quickly after shutdown. Fuel injection systems don't have this problem :-) Garth Shearing VariEze and 80% RV6A Victoria BC Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: Craig Warner <cwarner@twcny.rr.com> > > Check that the primer is in and locked. Also look at the diaphram in the > primer for a tear. Thats hwere my leak was. > > > > At least I think it is. I've noticed that after I shut down, I get a pool > > of gas in my FAB. I have a drain point in the lowest point of the FAB and > > the gas drips out of that, onto my cowling and out. This can't be normal > > can it? Anything I can or should check? > > > > -- > > Scott VanArtsdalen > > Network Manager > > Union Safe Deposit Bank > > 209-946-5116


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    Time: 04:10:49 PM PST US
    From: "Joe Hine" <joehine@rogers.com>
    Subject: VAL Avionics radios
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Joe Hine" <joehine@rogers.com> Hi Eric I can endorce Val equipment, I have one of their radios in my four since 97 and it has been completely trouble free. I constantly get comments on how good the radio sounds. I have no experiance with the equipment you are contemplating.. I have had a couple of conversations with the owner of the business when I was installing and he was very helpful. Joe Hine RV4 C-FYTQ Subject: RV-List: VAL Avionics radios --> RV-List message posted by: "Eric Whiteside" <erwhites@bellsouth.net> Anyone have experience with products from VAL Avionics? I am looking at their INS 422 TSO which combines VOR/ILS/Marker receivers with CDI in a 3.125 round instrument case. I am interested in any experiences with reliability and usability. Thanks, Eric Whiteside


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    Time: 05:12:53 PM PST US
    From: "Tom & Cathy Ervin" <tcervin@valkyrie.net>
    Subject: Fw: AeroElectric-List: Push to Talk Switch Wiring
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Tom & Cathy Ervin" <tcervin@valkyrie.net> List, I Haven't gotten any help on this problem yet? Has anybody faced this one? No help in the archives Thanks, Tom in Ohio ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom & Cathy Ervin" <tcervin@valkyrie.net> Subject: AeroElectric-List: Push to Talk Switch Wiring > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Tom & Cathy Ervin" <tcervin@valkyrie.net> > > List, > I have my Audio Panel PS-4000 wiring harness in place but they didn't make up separate wires for the Push to Talk Buttons? > One wire I know is the ground but wouldn't the other wire go to the "Key Wire" on the Microphone jack that the headset plugs into? Thanks for any help as the wiring is just about done. > Tom in Ohio > >


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    Time: 05:32:13 PM PST US
    From: RVer273sb@aol.com
    Subject: Vans full caster tailwheel
    --> RV-List message posted by: RVer273sb@aol.com Had an interesting thing happen yesterday I had no tailwheel steering for a landing roll out in my RV4. Got it in the hangar and dissasembled the rotating part. What I found was that the bronze bushing that fits into the steel weldment had rotated.. There is a hole drilled into the bushing that lines up with the grease zirk and the zirk is supposed to protrude into the bushing far enough to keep it from rotating. Rotation of the bushing would be no big deal except that it has a relief milled into the top of it that matches the milled portion in the steel which allows the spring to push the pawl into the steering arm locking it. There was enough of the bushing protruding above the milled part of the weldment that it kept the pawl from extending. There was evidence that the bushing had been working on the grease zerk for awhile. I rotated the bushing 180 degrees and drilled a new hole for the grease zerk to engage the bushing. I filed the relief into the bushing to give the pawl clearance and installed a new zerk. I have 789 hrs on this tailwheel assbly and who knows how many landings. I had greased it regularly/ I am now trying 30 weight oil instead of grease since it appears to be a phosphor bronze bushing. It was always difficult to get grease into it thru the zerk. Stewart Bergner RV4 denver area


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    Time: 05:56:37 PM PST US
    From: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net>
    Subject: Re: Leaky carb
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net> Hi Scott, Might it be wise to put fitting on the hole in the FAB that will accept a flexible line? Then run the line out into the open air. I would do this so as to avoid fuel laying and evaporating inside the cowling. If the idea is worth the effort, the fitting could be custom made using a small diameter piece of tubing brazed or silver soldered to a thin piece of chrome molly sheet metal. Jim in Kelowna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garth Shearing" <garth@Islandnet.com> Subject: Re: RV-List: Leaky carb > --> RV-List message posted by: "Garth Shearing" <garth@islandnet.com> > > It could also be normal! In carburetor systems, raw fuel can condense on > the walls of the induction system when the engine is running. The amount > depends on environmental temperatures, etc. The induction system walls can > get very cold due to venturi effects and fuel vapourization. This condensed > fuel is kept on the walls by the air/gas mixture roaring by when the engine > is operating, but when it shuts down, the fuel simply runs out the bottom. > > This characteristic can be dangerous if an intake valve is so bad that this > intake manifold gas and its associated vapour is ignited during restart. > The FAB drain hole is a good idea because it lets this fuel run out of the > intake assembly reasonably quickly after shutdown. > > Fuel injection systems don't have this problem :-) > > Garth Shearing > VariEze and 80% RV6A > Victoria BC Canada > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Craig Warner <cwarner@twcny.rr.com> > > > > Check that the primer is in and locked. Also look at the diaphram in the > > primer for a tear. Thats hwere my leak was. > > > > > > At least I think it is. I've noticed that after I shut down, I get a > pool > > > of gas in my FAB. I have a drain point in the lowest point of the FAB > and > > > the gas drips out of that, onto my cowling and out. This can't be > normal > > > can it? Anything I can or should check? > > > > > > -- > > > Scott VanArtsdalen > > > Network Manager > > > Union Safe Deposit Bank > > > 209-946-5116 > >


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    Time: 07:17:18 PM PST US
    From: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@usjet.net>
    Subject: Leaky carb
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@usjet.net> > Might it be wise to put fitting on the hole in the FAB that > will accept a flexible line? Then run the line out into the > open air. I would do this so as to avoid fuel laying and > evaporating inside the cowling. If the idea is worth the > effort, the fitting could be custom made using a small > diameter piece of tubing brazed or silver soldered to a thin > piece of chrome molly sheet metal. > Actually, two holes are needed on the bottom of the FAB. One hole is "inside" the filter, to drain excess prime out and one is "outside" the filter, towards the very back, to let injested rainwater out. One must use caution putting any sort of fitting on the drain which is "inside" the filter - no bulkhead fittings which could shed a nut and toast an engine (plus the drain cannot stick up any from the bottom inside of the FAB, or it won't act as a drain). Find a fitting which can be prosealed to the outside (bottom) of the FAB, with no parts inside the filter which can come loose. Alex Peterson Maple Grove, MN RV6-A N66AP 269 hours www.rvforum.org www.usfamily.net/web/alexpeterson


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    Time: 07:29:59 PM PST US
    From: "Karie Daniel" <karie4@attbi.com>
    Subject: Re: horizontal stabilizer riveting
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Karie Daniel" <karie4@attbi.com> If your bucking bar is touching anything other than the rivet this could happen. . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Anthony" <bruce.anthony@holidaycompanies.com> Subject: RV-List: horizontal stabilizer riveting > --> RV-List message posted by: "Bruce Anthony" <bruce.anthony@holidaycompanies.com> > > Need some advice on riveting a nose rib in a 9A horizontal stabilizer. I put in the end ribs first to give the stabilizer some form, but now that I'm trying to rivet in the middle rib, I get a depression deformation in the skin right at the rib. How do I avoid this? Should I drill out the end ribs and do the middle one first? Would clecoing in the forward spar help? Thanks. > > > Bruce Anthony > RV9A Horizontal Stabilizer > >


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    Time: 07:39:31 PM PST US
    From: Jim Bean <jim-bean@att.net>
    Subject: Vacuum Stuff
    --> RV-List message posted by: Jim Bean <jim-bean@att.net> To you guys that are so anxious to replace vacuum systems, I would like to buy (cheap of course): Vacuum regulator Vacuum filter Attitude indicator DG (with autopilot output). How about an offer. Jim Bean RV-8 Engine stuff Do not archive


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    Time: 09:51:08 PM PST US
    From: Vanremog@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Manifold pressure gage
    --> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com In a message dated 3/24/2003 9:28:29 AM Pacific Standard Time, denis.walsh@attbi.com writes: > I got the UMA phone number from an > instrument shop and called them. They had a very reasonable, set price to > overhaul it. When I got it back it was better than new, and in a short > time. Highly recommend you give them a call. Sorry I no longer have the > number. Fortunately, you don't need to keep track of these contact numbers, because dang near all of the best a/c parts sources (including UMA) are listed in the RV Builders' Yeller Pages, hosted by Matronics.com. -GV (RV-6A N1GV 593hrs)


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    Time: 10:20:36 PM PST US
    Subject: Glass Panels vs Vac Gyros.
    From: j1j2h3@juno.com
    --> RV-List message posted by: j1j2h3@juno.com Is it legal to fly IFR with these units? Jim Hasper - RV-7 just starting empennage Do not archive --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net> (snip) >To create redundancy of vital flight information I will rely on Rocky >Mountain Instrument's two units, A backup battery system and the now popular >Ipaq with a good compliment of programming for an additional level of stand >alone information.


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    Time: 11:03:36 PM PST US
    From: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net>
    Subject: Re: Glass Panels vs Vac Gyros.
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net> Hi Jim, In a word, no. I have no plans at present to attempt any thing but VFR until after achieving 200 hr. of licensed piloting. I seriously doubt that I would go further than training for night flight training. However I will have roomor can rearrange my removable instrument panel to add instruments to fulfill official requirements as needed. Jim in kelowna ----- Original Message ----- From: <j1j2h3@juno.com> Subject: RV-List: Glass Panels vs Vac Gyros. > --> RV-List message posted by: j1j2h3@juno.com > > Is it legal to fly IFR with these units? > > Jim Hasper - RV-7 just starting empennage > > Do not archive > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net> > > (snip) > > >To create redundancy of vital flight information I will rely on Rocky > >Mountain Instrument's two units, A backup battery system and the now > popular > >Ipaq with a good compliment of programming for an additional level of > stand > >alone information. > >




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