---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 03/31/03: 55 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:53 AM - Sun n fun Weather (Jim Norman) 2. 06:17 AM - Mounting fuel tanks (Scott Bilinski) 3. 06:43 AM - Re: Sun n fun Weather (Brian Denk) 4. 06:43 AM - Re: Sun n fun Weather (Brian Denk) 5. 06:43 AM - Re: Sun n fun Weather (Brian Denk) 6. 06:43 AM - Re: Sun n fun Weather (Brian Denk) 7. 07:21 AM - Re: Mounting fuel tanks (Bill VonDane) 8. 07:36 AM - Re: SF Bay Area Airports (Van Artsdalen, Scott) 9. 07:42 AM - Re: Prop test results posted (Van Artsdalen, Scott) 10. 08:11 AM - Re: Washington Post Article (Gary) 11. 08:29 AM - Rudder tip strobe? (Bill Dube) 12. 08:46 AM - Re: Sun n fun Weather (RV_8 Pilot) 13. 08:50 AM - Fumoto Oil Drain valve ordered (Brian Denk) 14. 09:00 AM - Re: Electrical System Gremlin (kempthornes) 15. 09:04 AM - Re: Rudder tip strobe? (Jack Blomgren) 16. 09:16 AM - Re: Mounting fuel tanks (Elsa & Henry) 17. 09:22 AM - Re: Pressure testing hoses (van Bladeren, Ron) 18. 09:37 AM - Re: Rudder tip strobe? (Kyle Boatright) 19. 09:37 AM - Re: Sun n fun Weather (Brian Denk) 20. 09:40 AM - Re: Electrical System Gremlin (Bill Dube) 21. 10:04 AM - Re: Rudder tip strobe? (mstewart@qa.butler.com) 22. 10:29 AM - Re: Rudder tip strobe? (Bill Dube) 23. 10:49 AM - Nav antenna cable (Bert Forero) 24. 10:49 AM - Nav antenna cable (Bert Forero) 25. 11:22 AM - S.F. Bay Area airports (John Allen) 26. 11:27 AM - Re: Nav antenna cable (Jim Wittman) 27. 11:38 AM - Why? was Fumoto Oil Drain valve ordered (RGray67968@aol.com) 28. 11:50 AM - New UPS GPS Navigator (DJB6A@cs.com) 29. 12:10 PM - Meigs field closed. (Jeff Point) 30. 12:15 PM - Re: Nav antenna cable (Elsa & Henry) 31. 12:17 PM - RE wanky doodly gauges during xmit (Wheeler North) 32. 01:07 PM - Re: Meigs field closed. (Kysh) 33. 01:07 PM - Re: Nav antenna cable (Larry Pardue) 34. 01:40 PM - Re: Meigs field closed. (Cy Galley) 35. 01:49 PM - Re: Meigs field closed (Wiethe, Philip (P.J.)) 36. 02:14 PM - Re: Meigs field closed. (Art Glaser) 37. 03:00 PM - Re: Re: Meigs field closed (DJB6A@cs.com) 38. 03:30 PM - Re: Re: Meigs field closed (Cy Galley) 39. 03:53 PM - Re: Re: Meigs field closed (Rob Prior) 40. 04:41 PM - CP 214 rivet squeezer on Ebay (Bill Dube) 41. 04:44 PM - Re: Electrical System Gremlin (Wayne R. Couture) 42. 04:53 PM - Re: Electrical System Gremlin (Tom & Cathy Ervin) 43. 04:53 PM - Re: RE wanky doodly gauges during xmit (Richard Dudley) 44. 04:58 PM - Re: Electrical System Gremlin (Tom & Cathy Ervin) 45. 05:08 PM - EIS 4000 and Van's tachometer transducer (Don Mack) 46. 05:08 PM - Re: RE wanky doodly gauges during xmit (Tom & Cathy Ervin) 47. 05:15 PM - Shunt placement (was: wanky doodly gauges during xmit) (Bill Dube) 48. 05:18 PM - Re: Nav antenna cable (Elsa & Henry) 49. 05:58 PM - Re: Nav antenna cable (Larry Pardue) 50. 06:02 PM - Re: Meigs field closed. (Larry Bowen) 51. 06:02 PM - Sportys A300 Nav/Com users manual (Jeff and Tamara Stokes) 52. 07:11 PM - Re: Electrical System Gremlin (Bill Baines) 53. 08:48 PM - Re: Fumoto Oil Drain valve ordered (Vanremog@aol.com) 54. 08:48 PM - Re: Rudder tip strobe? (Vanremog@aol.com) 55. 11:08 PM - Re: Rudder tip strobe? (Ed Holyoke) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:53:57 AM PST US From: "Jim Norman" Subject: RV-List: Sun n fun Weather --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Norman" All, the weather will be great this week in the central Florida area. No rain in the forcast, highs between 75 to 80, lows in the 50's, and 60's. Also, avoid Vandenberg Airport... Highest gas prices and NOT experimental friendly.... pass the word. jim Tampa ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:17:45 AM PST US From: Scott Bilinski Subject: RV-List: Mounting fuel tanks --> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski Just a little FYI about mounting your fuel tanks and the Proseal, make sure it is 100% cured. I tried to remove my tanks one was easy the other very difficult. There were several areas where Proseal had bonded the tank to the spar. This was not fun! Scott Bilinski Eng dept 305 Phone (858) 657-2536 Pager (858) 502-5190 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:43:48 AM PST US From: "Brian Denk" Subject: Re: RV-List: Sun n fun Weather --> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Denk" >--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Norman" > >All, >the weather will be great this week in the central Florida area. No rain >in >the forcast, highs between 75 to 80, lows in the 50's, and 60's. > >Also, avoid Vandenberg Airport... Highest gas prices and NOT experimental >friendly.... pass the word. > >jim >Tampa Jim, Thanks for the update! I plan to arrive at Tampa (TPA) Thursday. Expensive gas too, but better FBO service from all accounts I've read. Gotta pick up a car and the wife/kid there later in the day. I'll make sure to thumb my nose and fart in Vandenberg's general direction. It's the least I can do for the cause. ;) Brian Denk RV8 N94BD do not archive ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:43:48 AM PST US From: "Brian Denk" Subject: Re: RV-List: Sun n fun Weather --> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Denk" >--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Norman" > >All, >the weather will be great this week in the central Florida area. No rain >in >the forcast, highs between 75 to 80, lows in the 50's, and 60's. > >Also, avoid Vandenberg Airport... Highest gas prices and NOT experimental >friendly.... pass the word. > >jim >Tampa Jim, Thanks for the update! I plan to arrive at Tampa (TPA) Thursday. Expensive gas too, but better FBO service from all accounts I've read. Gotta pick up a car and the wife/kid there later in the day. I'll make sure to thumb my nose and fart in Vandenberg's general direction. It's the least I can do for the cause. ;) Brian Denk RV8 N94BD do not archive ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:43:48 AM PST US From: "Brian Denk" Subject: Re: RV-List: Sun n fun Weather --> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Denk" >--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Norman" > >All, >the weather will be great this week in the central Florida area. No rain >in >the forcast, highs between 75 to 80, lows in the 50's, and 60's. > >Also, avoid Vandenberg Airport... Highest gas prices and NOT experimental >friendly.... pass the word. > >jim >Tampa Jim, Thanks for the update! I plan to arrive at Tampa (TPA) Thursday. Expensive gas too, but better FBO service from all accounts I've read. Gotta pick up a car and the wife/kid there later in the day. I'll make sure to thumb my nose and fart in Vandenberg's general direction. It's the least I can do for the cause. ;) Brian Denk RV8 N94BD do not archive ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:43:48 AM PST US From: "Brian Denk" Subject: Re: RV-List: Sun n fun Weather --> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Denk" >--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Norman" > >All, >the weather will be great this week in the central Florida area. No rain >in >the forcast, highs between 75 to 80, lows in the 50's, and 60's. > >Also, avoid Vandenberg Airport... Highest gas prices and NOT experimental >friendly.... pass the word. > >jim >Tampa Jim, Thanks for the update! I plan to arrive at Tampa (TPA) Thursday. Expensive gas too, but better FBO service from all accounts I've read. Gotta pick up a car and the wife/kid there later in the day. I'll make sure to thumb my nose and fart in Vandenberg's general direction. It's the least I can do for the cause. ;) Brian Denk RV8 N94BD ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:21:13 AM PST US From: "Bill VonDane" Subject: Re: RV-List: Mounting fuel tanks --> RV-List message posted by: "Bill VonDane" When I built my tanks, as soon as I had the rear baffle on, and while the proseal was still curing, I put plastic wrap on my spar and installed my tanks to the spar... I installed all of the bolts and screw, and then let the tank cure... -Bill RV-8A - www.vondane.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Bilinski" Subject: RV-List: Mounting fuel tanks --> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski Just a little FYI about mounting your fuel tanks and the Proseal, make sure it is 100% cured. I tried to remove my tanks one was easy the other very difficult. There were several areas where Proseal had bonded the tank to the spar. This was not fun! Scott Bilinski Eng dept 305 Phone (858) 657-2536 Pager (858) 502-5190 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:36:10 AM PST US From: "Van Artsdalen, Scott" Subject: RE: RV-List: SF Bay Area Airports --> RV-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen, Scott" Go for Hayward. Hayward is right next door to Fremont. About 10 min drive vs 30 - 45 min from Reid-Hillview depending on traffic. If you file IFR you wont have any trouble getting through Bay Area airspace. I'm VFR only and I've never had much trouble getting through Bay Area airspace even in my old Aeronca Champ. -- Scott VanArtsdalen Network Manager Union Safe Deposit Bank 209-946-5116 -----Original Message----- From: Michael J. Robbins [mailto:michael.j.robbins@verizon.net] Subject: RV-List: SF Bay Area Airports --> RV-List message posted by: "Michael J. Robbins" To those of you in the bay area, I'm planning on visiting a friend in Fremont and it looks like San Jose Muni is the closest airport. Is it friendly to us little guys? Last time I flew out of SJC was in 1969. I know things have changed a lot. I have the option of filing IFR if necessary. I'm planning on arriving next Saturday or Sunday. Mike Robbins RV-8 N88MJ 185 hours Seattle area do not archive ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:42:22 AM PST US From: "Van Artsdalen, Scott" Subject: RE: RV-List: Prop test results posted --> RV-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen, Scott" It didn't come up when I clicked your link because it appeared the www was missing from the link in your email. Your page is working fine and the comparison was first rate. -- Scott VanArtsdalen Network Manager Union Safe Deposit Bank 209-946-5116 -----Original Message----- From: Randy Lervold [mailto:randy@rv-8.com] Subject: Re: RV-List: Prop test results posted --> RV-List message posted by: "Randy Lervold" Do you mean the web page or the Sport Aerobatics article? I just checked and the prop page is working fine... www.rv-8.com/Prop.htm Randy ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: RV-List: Prop test results posted > --> RV-List message posted by: PittsS1@aol.com > > randy, > can't open your prop results. attached is a comparison i did a while > back. it was published in SPORT AEROBATICS. > mike > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:11:46 AM PST US From: "Gary" Subject: Re: RV-List: Washington Post Article --> RV-List message posted by: "Gary" Right on, Cy. It shows how bad it is, when ultra conservative Ronald Reagn serves as a good example to point out where another Republican administration has gone wrong. Gary Do not archive. --- ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:29:41 AM PST US From: Bill Dube Subject: RV-List: Rudder tip strobe? --> RV-List message posted by: Bill Dube I have yet to see an example of an anti-collision strobe mounted on the horizontal stabilizer tip on an RV. Why is this? It would be lighter weight than the two strobe wing tip solution. It would be less drag than two wing-tip strobe / position light units. (You could go with the clear wing tip cut-outs for position lights.) It would have less tendency to interfere with radios, because it is farther away. It is standard mounting spot for OEM aircraft. If you mounted it about midway on the rudder tip, (instead of on the actual stab tip,) the stab tip would shade the pilot from the flash. It would draw 1/2 the power of the two wing tip units. What am I missing? Why don't folks do this? ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:46:01 AM PST US From: "RV_8 Pilot" Subject: Re: RV-List: Sun n fun Weather --> RV-List message posted by: "RV_8 Pilot" Hey, 4-Bravo-Delta... check for stuck mic! ;) Bryan Jones -8 Pearland, Texas do not archive ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 08:50:09 AM PST US From: "Brian Denk" Subject: RV-List: Fumoto Oil Drain valve ordered --> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Denk" Listers, With the recent thread on oil quick drain valve alternatives to the (slightly more) expensive Aeroquip device, I have ordered a Fumoto drain valve. Part number is T202N which will work for 1/2NPT Lycoming engines. The "N" suffix indicates it has a nipple for hose attachment. Price including shipping is $31.95. Web address is http://www.fumotovalve.com These valves are brass bodied with stainless ball. They should not leak. They do not have a safetying tab that I can see, but they could be easily saftied with a wrap of wire around the valve handle boss. Brian Denk RV8 N94BD ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 09:00:10 AM PST US From: kempthornes Subject: Re: RV-List: Electrical System Gremlin --> RV-List message posted by: kempthornes Tom, I would begin by checking out the amp gauge all by itself. Battery, amp gauge, light bulb, ground. I would continue by testing one item at a time. Pull all fuses, off all breakers, switch off all you can, disconnect everything else etc. Concentrate on one bird at a time, don't try to shoot the covey. K. H. (Hal) Kempthorne RV6-a N7HK flying! PRB (El Paso de Robles, CA) At 08:09 PM 3/30/2003 -0500, you wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Tom & Cathy Ervin" > > Any suggestions of where to start looking would be appreciated ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 09:04:26 AM PST US From: "Jack Blomgren" Subject: Re: RV-List: Rudder tip strobe? --> RV-List message posted by: "Jack Blomgren" Bill, For one thing your proffered strob location will be effectively blocked downward and forward by the fuselage and wings. Two strobes in the preferred "squared up" wing-tip locations guarantees sight of at least one strobe from any place out there in the sphere. (See Van's catalog for Nav Light Extensions.) Jack -8 canopy >From: Bill Dube >Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com >To: rv-list@matronics.com >Subject: RV-List: Rudder tip strobe? >Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 09:33:12 -0700 > >--> RV-List message posted by: Bill Dube > > I have yet to see an example of an anti-collision strobe mounted >on the >horizontal stabilizer [rudder] tip on an RV. Why is this? (Snip) > What am I missing? Why don't folks do this? > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 09:16:56 AM PST US From: "Elsa & Henry" Subject: Re: RV-List: Mounting fuel tanks --> RV-List message posted by: "Elsa & Henry" I didn't like the idea of using multiple clothes-peg- like sticks to squeeze the tank skin to the rear baffle to hold it there while curing, as shown in a photo in my manual (vintage 1995), because I was thinking that, with all those pegs there, how do you get to clean all the excess Proseal that squeezes out? --So I built a wooden frame, like a "window" frame, to fit around the skin and baffle, tapered slightly to force the skin against the baffle. Before applying the Proseal, I masked the surfaces that would contact the spar doubler, so when Proseal squeezed out when riveting the skin to the baffle, (and I used gobs of it),-who cares? I let it cure for about 8 hours and then removed the masking tape.Easily done as the "window" frame provided clear access. Result: No Proseal on the spar mounting surfaces! Cheers!!-----Henry Hore ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 09:22:39 AM PST US From: "van Bladeren, Ron" Subject: RE: RV-List: Pressure testing hoses --> RV-List message posted by: "van Bladeren, Ron" I just take the fitting off the end of my grease gun, add an adapter to accommodate the hose fitting, connect the hose, fill with hydraulic oil, screw on a pressure gauge at the other end, two or three pumps of the handle and you can easily get about any pressure you need up to 2000 psi or so. Ron. -----Original Message----- From: Russ Werner [mailto:russ@wernerworld.com] Subject: RV-List: Pressure testing hoses --> RV-List message posted by: "Russ Werner" I have been perusing the archives regarding pressure testing hoses. I'd like to make up a test rig to do my own. I have a few questions for those in the hose know. I am planning on testing with fluid (oil). Is it possible to get a valid test with only air pressure (I understand the difficulties of getting 500psi air pressure!) I'm planning on using the pump from a porta-power plumbed through a valve, through the hose, through a valve, and back to a reservoir feeding the porta-power pump. If anyone has made something similar, can you contact me off list with any details or lessons learned. Aloha, Russ Werner HRII ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 09:37:25 AM PST US From: "Kyle Boatright" Subject: Re: RV-List: Rudder tip strobe? --> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright" There is plenty in the archives on this. One thing you mention is that the pilot would be shielded, which is certainly doable. However, it is doubtful that the prop or the wings would be shielded, so you would get an annoying amount of reflection from those. I even get a little reflection on my (black) prop from the wing strobes. That's annoying enough. A strobe reflecting off of the wings would be downright bothersome. KB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Dube" Subject: RV-List: Rudder tip strobe? > --> RV-List message posted by: Bill Dube > > I have yet to see an example of an anti-collision strobe mounted on the > horizontal stabilizer tip on an RV. Why is this? > > It would be lighter weight than the two strobe wing tip solution. > > It would be less drag than two wing-tip strobe / position light units. > (You could go with the clear wing tip cut-outs for position lights.) > > It would have less tendency to interfere with radios, because it is > farther away. > > It is standard mounting spot for OEM aircraft. > > If you mounted it about midway on the rudder tip, (instead of on the > actual stab tip,) the stab tip would shade the pilot from the flash. > > It would draw 1/2 the power of the two wing tip units. > > What am I missing? Why don't folks do this? > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 09:37:45 AM PST US From: "Brian Denk" Subject: Re: RV-List: Sun n fun Weather --> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Denk" http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/9656/akroshomepage.htm >From: "RV_8 Pilot" >Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com >To: rv-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: RV-List: Sun n fun Weather >Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 10:43:09 -0600 > >--> RV-List message posted by: "RV_8 Pilot" > >Hey, 4-Bravo-Delta... check for stuck mic! > >;) > >Bryan Jones -8 >Pearland, Texas >do not archive Yeah, no kidding! Hotmail gagged, then upchucked a bunch of posts. *burp*. There. I feel better now. :) Brian Denk RV8 N94BD do not archive do not archive do not archive do no....*slap* ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 09:40:56 AM PST US From: Bill Dube Subject: Re: RV-List: Electrical System Gremlin --> RV-List message posted by: Bill Dube At 06:09 PM 3/30/2003, you wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Tom & Cathy Ervin" > > Just finished up all the Electrics on my RV6-A in the Hanger (garage) > out back and have a small Gremlin. Everything works including transmit > and receiving on both Comm's. > Symptoms are as follows after turning on the Master: > 1) About a 15 Amp. discharge shown on the Amp. Gauge > with only the Oil Pressure Light and BC Regulator Charge light activated? "Weird" electrical problems are very often caused by bad grounds. Make sure that the panel itself is properly grounded. With the vibration isolation, a bad ground can easily happen if a bond wire is not installed. Sometimes paint prevents a proper ground too. Run a stout clip lead from naked metal on the panel to the battery negative and see if the gremlins go away, or are reduced somewhat. right number for the alternator field windings. First, use a DC clamp-on type meter to compare the indicated amps to the actual amps. If a clamp-on is not available, pull one of the battery leads and insert an ammeter. If the amps are "real" and not the result of a bad indicator, pull the field wire on the alternator and see if that cuts down the 15 amp draw. If you have the "one wire" style alternator, disconnect the single wire and tape up the terminal to prevent any accidental shorts. ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 10:04:23 AM PST US From: mstewart@qa.butler.com Subject: RE: RV-List: Rudder tip strobe? --> RV-List message posted by: mstewart@qa.butler.com I have. N722DK. My Good buddy and Team RV member Danny Kight from Anderson SC. RV-6 dragger. Mike Stewart -----Original Message----- From: Bill Dube [mailto:bdube@boulder.nist.gov] Subject: RV-List: Rudder tip strobe? --> RV-List message posted by: Bill Dube I have yet to see an example of an anti-collision strobe mounted on the horizontal stabilizer tip on an RV. Why is this? It would be lighter weight than the two strobe wing tip solution. It would be less drag than two wing-tip strobe / position light units. (You could go with the clear wing tip cut-outs for position lights.) It would have less tendency to interfere with radios, because it is farther away. It is standard mounting spot for OEM aircraft. If you mounted it about midway on the rudder tip, (instead of on the actual stab tip,) the stab tip would shade the pilot from the flash. It would draw 1/2 the power of the two wing tip units. What am I missing? Why don't folks do this? ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 10:29:41 AM PST US From: Bill Dube Subject: Re: RV-List: Rudder tip strobe? --> RV-List message posted by: Bill Dube At 10:03 AM 3/31/2003, you wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Jack Blomgren" > >Bill, > >For one thing your proffered strob location will be effectively blocked >downward and forward by the fuselage and wings. According to the FAA, it is OK if the coverage is not 100%. A single strobe on the tip of the stab is one of the standard systems given as an example by the FAA. It is not an uncommon installation on OEM aircraft. Indeed, the wing-tip method gives greater light distribution. There is no question about that. However, you have to consider exactly what direction it is possible/probable for another aircraft to collide with you. The stab tip covers all the directions that another aircraft would likely approach and collide. The only possible "blind spot" would be if you AND the other aircraft were both climbing steeply in EXACT opposite directions. Still, your position lights would be visible. Doesn't sound like much of a problem or much added risk. ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 10:49:25 AM PST US From: "Bert Forero" Subject: RV-List: Nav antenna cable --> RV-List message posted by: "Bert Forero" Hi: Is the coaxial cable for the Com. Antenna, a solid one. I just realize that the one I have, ready to connect to the radio, is stranded (rg-58)Please tell me I do not have to remove all that work now.... Also, does any one have any problems, with reception with the Wing tip mounted Nave antenna? Reading notes from Aeroelectirc, Bob, says that sometimes one would have, blind spots, and that when landing, be aware that one would be on one side of runway, and not in center, when under IMC.. I have not decided what type of antenna, to use.. Your expert comments appreciated. Bert Do Not Archive Sign up for Internet Service under $10 dollars a month, at http://isp.BlueLight.com ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 10:49:25 AM PST US From: "Bert Forero" Subject: RV-List: Nav antenna cable --> RV-List message posted by: "Bert Forero" Hi: Is the coaxial cable for the Com. Antenna, a solid one. I just realize that the one I have, ready to connect to the radio, is stranded (rg-58)Please tell me I do not have to remove all that work now.... Also, does any one have any problems, with reception with the Wing tip mounted Nave antenna? Reading notes from Aeroelectirc, Bob, says that sometimes one would have, blind spots, and that when landing, be aware that one would be on one side of runway, and not in center, when under IMC.. I have not decided what type of antenna, to use.. Your expert comments appreciated. Bert Do Not Archive Sign up for Internet Service under $10 dollars a month, at http://isp.BlueLight.com ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 11:22:33 AM PST US From: John Allen Subject: RV-List: S.F. Bay Area airports --> RV-List message posted by: John Allen I just flew into Oakland this past weekend. NorCal approach took me under the Class B into the Class C. Gave me a straight-in to Rwy 27. No problem. Fueled at self-serve pump at Kaiser Air and they provided a shuttle to the BART station. There is a BART station in Fremont and the trains run regularly. There was a $13 fee at Kaiser. I think the fee at Hayward was $10, but don't really remember. There is also a BART station in Hayward, but not sure if the local FBO provides transportation. If I recall, gas was more expensive in Hayward. John Allen --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 11:27:29 AM PST US From: "Jim Wittman" Subject: RE: RV-List: Nav antenna cable --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Wittman" I recently installed the wing tip nav antenna and so far I have not noticed any difference in reception. As for lining up to the side of the runway; I expect to break-out sufficiently above the runway to not even notice that phenomena. With the nav antenna, however, I do see a somewhat negative effect on range. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bert Forero Subject: RV-List: Nav antenna cable --> RV-List message posted by: "Bert Forero" Hi: Is the coaxial cable for the Com. Antenna, a solid one. I just realize that the one I have, ready to connect to the radio, is stranded (rg-58)Please tell me I do not have to remove all that work now.... Also, does any one have any problems, with reception with the Wing tip mounted Nave antenna? Reading notes from Aeroelectirc, Bob, says that sometimes one would have, blind spots, and that when landing, be aware that one would be on one side of runway, and not in center, when under IMC.. I have not decided what type of antenna, to use.. Your expert comments appreciated. Bert Do Not Archive Sign up for Internet Service under $10 dollars a month, at http://isp.BlueLight.com ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 11:38:09 AM PST US From: RGray67968@aol.com Subject: RV-List: Why? was Fumoto Oil Drain valve ordered --> RV-List message posted by: RGray67968@aol.com Folks, The 'other' side........for those wondering if they NEED to spend the money on this valve........I just finished my 8th (count 'em) oil change since 1st flight last August. It takes less than a minute to snip the safety wire on the drain plug and remove it. Then just a tad longer to reinstall and safety wire (and, there IS a provision). No ball and no leaks. Not sure why folks seem to need/want this valve. Please don't reply with "you can change the oil 'without' removing the cowl"......I want to see in there. Rick Gray RV6 160hrs (Ohio) at the Buffalo Farm till Wednesday when I'll be at Sun at Fun - yea boy!! for the archives > Listers, > > With the recent thread on oil quick drain valve alternatives to the > (slightly more) expensive Aeroquip device, I have ordered a Fumoto drain > valve. Part number is T202N which will work for 1/2NPT Lycoming engines. > The "N" suffix indicates it has a nipple for hose attachment. Price > including shipping is $31.95. Web address is http://www.fumotovalve.com > > These valves are brass bodied with stainless ball. They should not leak. > They do not have a safetying tab that I can see, but they could be easily > saftied with a wrap of wire around the valve handle boss. > > Brian Denk > RV8 N94BD ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 11:50:48 AM PST US From: DJB6A@cs.com Subject: RV-List: New UPS GPS Navigator --> RV-List message posted by: DJB6A@cs.com UPS Aviation technologies has finally announced their new GPS navigator, check it out at http://www.upsat.com/ Dave Burnham Lincolnshire, IL ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 12:10:28 PM PST US From: Jeff Point Subject: RV-List: Meigs field closed. --> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Point Marginally RV-related, but very important to all of us. Delete now if not interested. Do not archive in any event. http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsitems/2003/03-1-157x.html Mayor Daley digs up the runway in the middle of the night, with no Notam, no advance warning to anyone, stranding numerous aircraft on the airport. This after he promised to keep Meigs open last year. All under the guise of "homeland security." I would like to encourage everyone to stop over at http://www.friendsofmeigs.org/ It is only $10 to join, and they could use the money right now. Again, do not archive this non-RV related post. But remember, it could be your airport next. Jeff Point RV-6 Finish kit FWF Milwaukee WI ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 12:15:22 PM PST US From: "Elsa & Henry" Subject: Re: RV-List: Nav antenna cable --> RV-List message posted by: "Elsa & Henry" RG-58 is a 50 ohm impedance cable which is the standard for RF comm. equipment and has stranded center conductor. A solid center conductor would be a 75 ohm cable which is in standard use in TV cables. Cheers!! ---Henry Hore ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 12:17:24 PM PST US From: Wheeler North Subject: RV-List: RE wanky doodly gauges during xmit --> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North good luck, I played with it for some time and never proved a thing as to what was causing it. It seems to be common to using Vans gauges, particualrly the amp and map gauges. But Vans says there is no problem. Several of us have had this problem. I have just learned to close my eyes when I talk on the radio. One thing I haven't done yet is to stick a different battery in the AC for instruments to test if the inteference is coming on the power/gnd side or the signal side of the gauges. But I tried all types of coils and caps trying to reduce or alter the problem. Nothing effected it, and the degree of the problem would change. The other thing I noted is that there is some feedback V coming from the amp gauge shunt through the amp gauge into the instruments. This is evidenced by the fact that the fuel gauges come on and wander around with the master on/inst off and then stablize once the inst sw is on. The problem goes away with the shunt disconnected from the amp gauge. Vans also says this can't be occuring and is not a problem. I have tried three of their gauges, all with the same results. And my wiring is correct and has been reviewed by several folks. Let me know if you figure it out. W ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 01:07:28 PM PST US From: Kysh Subject: Re: RV-List: Meigs field closed. --> RV-List message posted by: Kysh As Jeff Point was saying: > --> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Point > http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsitems/2003/03-1-157x.html Oh.. my.. god.. Welcome to America, boys and girls. -Kysh do not archive -- | 'Life begins at 120kias' - http://www.lapdragon.org/flying | | CBR-F4 streetbike - http://www.lapdragon.org/cbr | | 1968 Mustang fastback - http://www.lapdragon.org/mustang | | Got 'nix? - http://www.infrastructure.org/ | | KG6FOB - http://www.lapdragon.org/ham | | Give blood: Play Hockey! http://www.unixdragon.com/ | ________________________________ Message 33 ____________________________________ Time: 01:07:28 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV-List: Nav antenna cable From: Larry Pardue --> RV-List message posted by: Larry Pardue >--> RV-List message posted by: "Elsa & Henry" > >RG-58 is a 50 ohm impedance cable which is the standard for RF comm. >equipment and has stranded center conductor. A solid center conductor would >be a 75 ohm cable which is in standard use in TV cables. > Cheers!! ---Henry Hore > There are arguments for and against solid center conductor coax. This is not one of them. 50 ohm cable does come with either type of conductor. Larry Pardue Carlsbad, NM RV-6 N441LP Flying http://www.carlsbadnm.com/n5lp/index.htm ________________________________ Message 34 ____________________________________ Time: 01:40:32 PM PST US From: "Cy Galley" Subject: Re: RV-List: Meigs field closed. --> RV-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" Let 'em know how you feel about it. Vote at http://www.chicagotribune.com/ At 1:55 Central it was 1439 (31.4%) for and 3141 (68.6) against. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Point" Subject: RV-List: Meigs field closed. > --> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Point > > Marginally RV-related, but very important to all of us. Delete now if > not interested. Do not archive in any event. > > http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsitems/2003/03-1-157x.html > > Mayor Daley digs up the runway in the middle of the night, with no > Notam, no advance warning to anyone, stranding numerous aircraft on the > airport. This after he promised to keep Meigs open last year. All > under the guise of "homeland security." > > I would like to encourage everyone to stop over at > http://www.friendsofmeigs.org/ It is only $10 to join, and they could > use the money right now. > > Again, do not archive this non-RV related post. But remember, it could > be your airport next. > > Jeff Point > RV-6 Finish kit FWF > Milwaukee WI > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 35 ____________________________________ Time: 01:49:08 PM PST US From: "Wiethe, Philip (P.J.)" Subject: RV-List: Re: Meigs field closed --> RV-List message posted by: "Wiethe, Philip (P.J.)" Here is the only contact info I found at their website, if you wish to write or fax your opinion. I didn't see an email or direct phone line. Maybe someone else knows these? Office of the Mayor: Address: Office of the Mayor 121 N. LaSalle, Room 507 Chicago, IL 60602 Facsimile: 312-744-8045 ________________________________ Message 36 ____________________________________ Time: 02:14:16 PM PST US From: Art Glaser Subject: Re: RV-List: Meigs field closed. --> RV-List message posted by: Art Glaser I live near Chicago. I fly an airplane and the Mayor does not want me there. My only 4 wheel transportation is a light pickup and the Mayor does not want me in certain areas of the city. A real city like NYC does not have this idiocy. I have avoided spending money in Chicago due to his attitude in the past. I will attempt to spend nothing in the city or on products from the city. I can get entertainment, airports, professional ball games, etc., in other towns. Enough said Jeff Point wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Point > > Marginally RV-related, but very important to all of us. Delete now if > not interested. Do not archive in any event. > > http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsitems/2003/03-1-157x.html > > Mayor Daley digs up the runway in the middle of the night, with no > Notam, no advance warning to anyone, stranding numerous aircraft on the > airport. This after he promised to keep Meigs open last year. All > under the guise of "homeland security." > > I would like to encourage everyone to stop over at > http://www.friendsofmeigs.org/ It is only $10 to join, and they could > use the money right now. > > Again, do not archive this non-RV related post. But remember, it could > be your airport next. > > Jeff Point > RV-6 Finish kit FWF > Milwaukee WI > ________________________________ Message 37 ____________________________________ Time: 03:00:45 PM PST US From: DJB6A@cs.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Meigs field closed --> RV-List message posted by: DJB6A@cs.com Tried to email "Dictator Daley" this morning, but the site wouldn't accept my email. Not only does he conduct midnight raids, he censors his email. I was offering him a job in Iraq, seems like they will needing a new dictator soon. Dave Burnham NW of Chicago ________________________________ Message 38 ____________________________________ Time: 03:30:46 PM PST US From: "Cy Galley" Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Meigs field closed --> RV-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" If you'd like to send an email to hizzoner himself, you can go to: http://www.ci.chi.il.us/Mayor/mayorfeedback.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wiethe, Philip (P.J.)" Subject: RV-List: Re: Meigs field closed > --> RV-List message posted by: "Wiethe, Philip (P.J.)" > > Here is the only contact info I found at their website, if you wish to write or fax your opinion. > I didn't see an email or direct phone line. Maybe someone else knows these? > > Office of the Mayor: Address: Office of the Mayor > 121 N. LaSalle, Room 507 > Chicago, IL 60602 > Facsimile: 312-744-8045 > > ________________________________ Message 39 ____________________________________ Time: 03:53:04 PM PST US From: Rob Prior Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Meigs field closed --> RV-List message posted by: Rob Prior Office of the Mayor, voice line: 312-744-3334 Courtesy of Aero-news.net. Wiethe, Philip (P.J.) wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Wiethe, Philip (P.J.)" > > Here is the only contact info I found at their website, if you wish to write or fax your opinion. > I didn't see an email or direct phone line. Maybe someone else knows these? > > Office of the Mayor: Address: Office of the Mayor > 121 N. LaSalle, Room 507 > Chicago, IL 60602 > Facsimile: 312-744-8045 do not archive ________________________________ Message 40 ____________________________________ Time: 04:41:56 PM PST US From: Bill Dube Subject: RV-List: CP 214 rivet squeezer on Ebay --> RV-List message posted by: Bill Dube Super nice looking Chicago Pneumatic 214 rivet squeezer on Ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2519772516 This same guy has a few other squeezers up for sale as well. Click on "view seller's other items" to browse. ________________________________ Message 41 ____________________________________ Time: 04:44:57 PM PST US From: "Wayne R. Couture" Subject: Re: RV-List: Electrical System Gremlin --> RV-List message posted by: "Wayne R. Couture" I had a problem with a amp gage from Van's. Returned it for a replacement and everything was fine! Wayne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom & Cathy Ervin" Subject: RV-List: Electrical System Gremlin > --> RV-List message posted by: "Tom & Cathy Ervin" > > Just finished up all the Electrics on my RV6-A in the Hanger (garage) out back and have a small Gremlin. Everything works including transmit and receiving on both Comm's. > Symptoms are as follows after turning on the Master: > 1) About a 15 Amp. discharge shown on the Amp. Gauge with only the Oil Pressure Light and BC Regulator Charge light activated? > 2) Everything works with no more discharge shown no matter how many things are brought online? > 3) Now it gets interesting........If I transmit on either radio the following occurs: > a) CHT & EXT Gauges dance like crazy! > b) Amp Gauge goes Nuts! > c) Flap & Trim Indicators leds dance! > d) Fuel gauges advance very slightly even though the wings and thus indicators are not hooked up? > The airport which is 3 miles away says I am transmitting crystal clear even from inside my garage with a belly antenna?!? > Any suggestions of where to start looking would be appreciated as I don't want to put the forward skin down till I get this fixed. > Tom in Ohio > > ________________________________ Message 42 ____________________________________ Time: 04:53:50 PM PST US From: "Tom & Cathy Ervin" Subject: Re: RV-List: Electrical System Gremlin --> RV-List message posted by: "Tom & Cathy Ervin" Seems to be the approach recommended by most. I have Friday off so hopefully I will run this down! Boy I thought the Slider was tough. Tom in Ohio ----- Original Message ----- From: "kempthornes" Subject: Re: RV-List: Electrical System Gremlin > --> RV-List message posted by: kempthornes > > Tom, > > I would begin by checking out the amp gauge all by itself. Battery, amp > gauge, light bulb, ground. I would continue by testing one item at a > time. Pull all fuses, off all breakers, switch off all you can, disconnect > everything else etc. > > Concentrate on one bird at a time, don't try to shoot the covey. > > K. H. (Hal) Kempthorne > RV6-a N7HK flying! > PRB (El Paso de Robles, CA) > > > At 08:09 PM 3/30/2003 -0500, you wrote: > >--> RV-List message posted by: "Tom & Cathy Ervin" > > > > Any suggestions of where to start looking would be appreciated > > ________________________________ Message 43 ____________________________________ Time: 04:53:58 PM PST US From: Richard Dudley Subject: Re: RV-List: RE wanky doodly gauges during xmit --> RV-List message posted by: Richard Dudley Wheeler and others with Van's instruments. Though I am not flying yet, in my tests of the instruments and avionics I have observed similar effects with my Van's instruments. When I key a transmitter, several of the instruments change wildly. I've been hoping that someone had isolated the problem. I have not tried, yet. I've only noted the effect. At some later time, I will try a few experiments to see if I can find the source. In the meantime, I'd be interested in anyone else's observations or findings. Thanks. Richard Dudley -6A baffles Wheeler North wrote: > > --> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North > > good luck, > > I played with it for some time and never proved a thing as to what was > causing it. > > It seems to be common to using Vans gauges, particualrly the amp and map > gauges. But Vans says there is no problem. Several of us have had this > problem. I have just learned to close my eyes when I talk on the radio. > > One thing I haven't done yet is to stick a different battery in the AC for > instruments to test if the inteference is coming on the power/gnd side or > the signal side of the gauges. But I tried all types of coils and caps > trying to reduce or alter the problem. Nothing effected it, and the degree > of the problem would change. > > The other thing I noted is that there is some feedback V coming from the amp > gauge shunt through the amp gauge into the instruments. This is evidenced by > the fact that the fuel gauges come on and wander around with the master > on/inst off and then stablize once the inst sw is on. The problem goes away > with the shunt disconnected from the amp gauge. Vans also says this can't be > occuring and is not a problem. I have tried three of their gauges, all with > the same results. And my wiring is correct and has been reviewed by several > folks. > > Let me know if you figure it out. > > W > ________________________________ Message 44 ____________________________________ Time: 04:58:29 PM PST US From: "Tom & Cathy Ervin" Subject: Re: RV-List: Electrical System Gremlin --> RV-List message posted by: "Tom & Cathy Ervin" Bill, I will print this out along with the other great suggestions I have gotten and work the problem. Thanks, Tom in Ohio ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Dube" Subject: Re: RV-List: Electrical System Gremlin > --> RV-List message posted by: Bill Dube > > At 06:09 PM 3/30/2003, you wrote: > >--> RV-List message posted by: "Tom & Cathy Ervin" > > > > Just finished up all the Electrics on my RV6-A in the Hanger (garage) > > out back and have a small Gremlin. Everything works including transmit > > and receiving on both Comm's. > > Symptoms are as follows after turning on the Master: > > 1) About a 15 Amp. discharge shown on the Amp. Gauge > > with only the Oil Pressure Light and BC Regulator Charge light activated? > > > "Weird" electrical problems are very often caused by bad grounds. > Make sure that the panel itself is properly grounded. With the vibration > isolation, a bad ground can easily happen if a bond wire is not installed. > Sometimes paint prevents a proper ground too. Run a stout clip lead from > naked metal on the panel to the battery negative and see if the gremlins go > away, or are reduced somewhat. > > right number for the alternator field windings. First, use a DC clamp-on > type meter to compare the indicated amps to the actual amps. If a clamp-on > is not available, pull one of the battery leads and insert an ammeter. > > If the amps are "real" and not the result of a bad indicator, pull > the field wire on the alternator and see if that cuts down the 15 amp draw. > If you have the "one wire" style alternator, disconnect the single wire and > tape up the terminal to prevent any accidental shorts. > > ________________________________ Message 45 ____________________________________ Time: 05:08:49 PM PST US From: "Don Mack" Subject: RV-List: EIS 4000 and Van's tachometer transducer --> RV-List message posted by: "Don Mack" Has anyone used an EIS 4000 with a Van's tachometer transducer? I already have the transducer installed and wired and would rather not go back and use GRT's magneto method of getting a tach reading. According to GRT, I may need to modify the EIS4000 to handle the voltage from the transducer. Does anyone know what voltage/amperage the transducer puts out on the signal line? If you have already done it, did you have to modify the EIS 4000? Don Mack don@dmack.net www.dmack.net ________________________________ Message 46 ____________________________________ Time: 05:08:50 PM PST US From: "Tom & Cathy Ervin" Subject: Re: RV-List: RE wanky doodly gauges during xmit --> RV-List message posted by: "Tom & Cathy Ervin" Wheeler, I wonder if anyone on the list tried another brand of Amp. Gauge in this situation? Did the Gremlins go away? Tom in Ohio ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wheeler North" Subject: RV-List: RE wanky doodly gauges during xmit > --> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North > > good luck, > > I played with it for some time and never proved a thing as to what was > causing it. > > It seems to be common to using Vans gauges, particualrly the amp and map > gauges. But Vans says there is no problem. Several of us have had this > problem. I have just learned to close my eyes when I talk on the radio. > > One thing I haven't done yet is to stick a different battery in the AC for > instruments to test if the inteference is coming on the power/gnd side or > the signal side of the gauges. But I tried all types of coils and caps > trying to reduce or alter the problem. Nothing effected it, and the degree > of the problem would change. > > The other thing I noted is that there is some feedback V coming from the amp > gauge shunt through the amp gauge into the instruments. This is evidenced by > the fact that the fuel gauges come on and wander around with the master > on/inst off and then stablize once the inst sw is on. The problem goes away > with the shunt disconnected from the amp gauge. Vans also says this can't be > occuring and is not a problem. I have tried three of their gauges, all with > the same results. And my wiring is correct and has been reviewed by several > folks. > > Let me know if you figure it out. > > W > > ________________________________ Message 47 ____________________________________ Time: 05:15:40 PM PST US From: Bill Dube Subject: RV-List: Shunt placement (was: wanky doodly gauges during xmit) --> RV-List message posted by: Bill Dube > >The other thing I noted is that there is some feedback V coming from the amp >gauge shunt through the amp gauge into the instruments. This is evidenced by >the fact that the fuel gauges come on and wander around with the master >on/inst off and then stablize once the inst sw is on. The problem goes away >with the shunt disconnected from the amp gauge. Vans also says this can't be >occuring and is not a problem. I have tried three of their gauges, all with >the same results. And my wiring is correct and has been reviewed by several >folks. Let's start with saying that I have not played around with this specific amp gauge, but I have worked quite a bit with many others. Most amp gauges and amperage measuring instruments want the shunt to be located right next to the negative battery post. You must at least put it first in line on the negative battery cable. Otherwise, the gauges get what is called "large common mode voltages" which can drive them wacky. There are high-end gauges that don't care where you put the shunt, but many of the less expensive units are effected by the shunt placement. The shunt puts out a tiny voltage, typically just a few millivolts. sensing wire and the type of wire used. Shielded twisted pair is typically recommended. This helps reduce the noise on the tiny signal ________________________________ Message 48 ____________________________________ Time: 05:18:50 PM PST US From: "Elsa & Henry" Subject: Re: RV-List: Nav antenna cable --> RV-List message posted by: "Elsa & Henry" Larry, Yes, you are right, there is a solid center-conductor 50 ohm cables with similar diameters such as RG-55A/U and they are probably the best to use in noisy environments (i.e. strobes) because they have a double shield braid vice the -58, but with a slight weight penalty. It is not easily available as the - 58. As you intimated, soldering the solid wire into a connector pin is a problem in a high vibration environment. The originator of this thread said his cable was RG 58. I have been using RG-58C/U for over 58 years and my 1956 edition (4th) of "Reference Data For Radio Engineers" published by International Telephones and Telegraph Corp has a listing of all types of cables available at the time. The info on RG-58C/U (if interested) is as follows: Inner conductor: 19 strands 0.0071" tinned copper, Dielectric: Polyethylene. Dia=0.116" Braid: Single, tinned copper Jacket: Noncontaminating synthetic resin. Nominal overall dia: 0.195" NOMINAL IMPEDANCE: 50.0 OHMS Weight lb/ft: 0.029 Nominal capacitance uuf/ft: 28.5 Maximum operating voltage rms: 1,900 Remarks: Small-size flexible cable So the easy way to determine which coax cable is which: The RG-58 has a stranded center conductor vice the RG-59 which is solid copperweld, the -58 braid is tinned vice the -59 is bare copper and the diameter of the -59 is 0.047" thicker than the -59. But the -55 has a solid silvered copper center conductor (0.035 dia) and a double braid of silvered copper. The overall dia. is 0.026" less than the -59.-- The advantage of using the -55 is that it has less attenuation per 100 ft. at 100 MHZ, 5.5db for the -58, vs 4.7db for the -55. Check it out!-------Cheers!!--Henry Hore ________________________________ Message 49 ____________________________________ Time: 05:58:58 PM PST US From: "Larry Pardue" Subject: Re: RV-List: Nav antenna cable --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Pardue" I confess I focused on the 50 ohm aspect more than the RG-58 designation, but I did remember having seen solid center conductor RG-58. A quick search yielded http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&category%5Fname=CT LG%5F005%5F001%5F001%5F000&product%5Fid=278%2D1314 Ok, Radio Shack is not where I would get my coax, but RG-58 is what they call it. Do not archive Larry Pardue Carlsbad, NM RV-6 N441LP Flying http://www.carlsbadnm.com/n5lp/index.htm > --> RV-List message posted by: "Elsa & Henry" > > Larry, > Yes, you are right, there is a solid center-conductor 50 ohm cables with > similar diameters such as RG-55A/U and they are probably the best to use in > noisy environments (i.e. strobes) because they have a double shield braid > vice the -58, but with a slight weight penalty. It is not easily available > as the - 58. As you intimated, soldering the solid wire into a connector pin > is a problem in a high vibration environment. > The originator of this thread said his cable was RG 58. I have been using > RG-58C/U for over 58 years and my 1956 edition (4th) of "Reference Data For > Radio Engineers" published by International Telephones and Telegraph Corp > has a listing of all types of cables available at the time. The info on > RG-58C/U (if interested) is as follows: > Inner conductor: 19 strands 0.0071" tinned copper, > Dielectric: Polyethylene. Dia=0.116" > Braid: Single, tinned copper > Jacket: Noncontaminating synthetic resin. > Nominal overall dia: 0.195" > NOMINAL IMPEDANCE: 50.0 OHMS > Weight lb/ft: 0.029 > Nominal capacitance uuf/ft: 28.5 > Maximum operating voltage rms: 1,900 > Remarks: Small-size flexible cable > > So the easy way to determine which coax cable is which: The RG-58 has a > stranded center conductor vice the RG-59 which is solid copperweld, the -58 > braid is tinned vice the -59 is bare copper and the diameter of the -59 is > 0.047" thicker than the -59. > But the -55 has a solid silvered copper center conductor (0.035 dia) and a > double braid of silvered copper. The overall dia. is 0.026" less than > the -59.-- The advantage of using the -55 is that it has less attenuation > per 100 ft. at 100 MHZ, 5.5db for the -58, vs 4.7db for the -55. > > Check it out!-------Cheers!!--Henry Hore ________________________________ Message 50 ____________________________________ Time: 06:02:05 PM PST US From: "Larry Bowen" Subject: RE: RV-List: Meigs field closed. --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" Or send some fan mail directly to the mayor: http://www.ci.chi.il.us/Mayor/mayorfeedback.html - Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com 2003 - The year of flight! > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cy Galley > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 4:39 PM > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV-List: Meigs field closed. > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" > > Let 'em know how you feel about it. Vote at > > http://www.chicagotribune.com/ > > At 1:55 Central it was 1439 (31.4%) for and 3141 (68.6) against. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeff Point" > To: "RV List" > Subject: RV-List: Meigs field closed. > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Point > > > > Marginally RV-related, but very important to all of us. > Delete now if > > not interested. Do not archive in any event. > > > > http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsitems/2003/03-1-157x.html > > > > Mayor Daley digs up the runway in the middle of the night, with no > > Notam, no advance warning to anyone, stranding numerous > aircraft on the > > airport. This after he promised to keep Meigs open last year. All > > under the guise of "homeland security." > > > > I would like to encourage everyone to stop over at > > http://www.friendsofmeigs.org/ It is only $10 to join, and > they could > > use the money right now. > > > > Again, do not archive this non-RV related post. But remember, it > > could > > be your airport next. > > > > Jeff Point > > RV-6 Finish kit FWF > > Milwaukee WI ________________________________ Message 51 ____________________________________ Time: 06:02:34 PM PST US From: "Jeff and Tamara Stokes" Subject: RV-List: Sportys A300 Nav/Com users manual --> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff and Tamara Stokes" I recently purchased a used Sporty's A300 Nav/Com for backup in my RV6. The seller didn't have the users manual and I am unfamiliar with its operation. Would anyone be willing to make a copy? Do not archive Jeff Stokes RV6 206 hrs ________________________________ Message 52 ____________________________________ Time: 07:11:45 PM PST US From: "Bill Baines" Subject: RE: RV-List: Electrical System Gremlin --> RV-List message posted by: "Bill Baines" Item 3 indicates RF from your transmitter is floating around in there somewhere. It may be radiated, or it may be conducted. Some things to review for radiated are: 1) Bonding and grounding of the radio and antenna -ve power wire for the radio should be dedicated, appropriate gauge, well grounded and short. 2) Quality of Coax terminations at the connectors and proper coax. 3) Antenna cable routing It is a good idea to keep power grounds and audio grounds separate (but close to each other at the airframe end) If it is conducted, you might have RF coming down the audio or power wires, and floating into other devices. You might try temporarily powering the VHF from another power source and see if the interference changes. Wire routing sometimes causes problems you describe, but it is unlikely that it would affect so many things. I concur with Bill Dube's comments about grounding and bonding. Scrape the paint, use sacrificial aluminum washers against the skin, etc. This is well described in AC41.13-2A Chapter 15, 11.185 and onward, also see Table 11-14. Bill in Vancouver RV-4 wings and empenage in storage :-( -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom & Cathy Ervin Subject: RV-List: Electrical System Gremlin --> RV-List message posted by: "Tom & Cathy Ervin" --> Just finished up all the Electrics on my RV6-A in the Hanger (garage) out back and have a small Gremlin. Everything works including transmit and receiving on both Comm's. Symptoms are as follows after turning on the Master: 1) About a 15 Amp. discharge shown on the Amp. Gauge with only the Oil Pressure Light and BC Regulator Charge light activated? 2) Everything works with no more discharge shown no matter how many things are brought online? 3) Now it gets interesting........If I transmit on either radio the following occurs: a) CHT & EXT Gauges dance like crazy! b) Amp Gauge goes Nuts! c) Flap & Trim Indicators leds dance! d) Fuel gauges advance very slightly even though the wings and thus indicators are not hooked up? The airport which is 3 miles away says I am transmitting crystal clear even from inside my garage with a belly antenna?!? Any suggestions of where to start looking would be appreciated as I don't want to put the forward skin down till I get this fixed. Tom in Ohio direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. ________________________________ Message 53 ____________________________________ Time: 08:48:13 PM PST US From: Vanremog@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Fumoto Oil Drain valve ordered --> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com In a message dated 3/31/2003 8:51:11 AM Pacific Standard Time, akroguy@hotmail.com writes: > I have ordered a Fumoto drain > valve. Part number is T202N which will work for 1/2NPT Lycoming engines. > The "N" suffix indicates it has a nipple for hose attachment. Price > including shipping is $31.95. Web address is http://www.fumotovalve.com > > These valves are brass bodied with stainless ball. They should not leak. > They do not have a safetying tab that I can see, but they could be easily > safetied with a wrap of wire around the valve handle boss. Brian- I just drilled a safety wire hole centered on the end radius of the little stainless steel handle. Works perfectly. -GV (RV-6A N1GV 593hrs) ________________________________ Message 54 ____________________________________ Time: 08:48:13 PM PST US From: Vanremog@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Rudder tip strobe? --> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com In a message dated 3/31/2003 8:30:44 AM Pacific Standard Time, bdube@boulder.nist.gov writes: > I have yet to see an example of an anti-collision strobe mounted on the > horizontal stabilizer tip on an RV. Why is this? > Some things just shouldn't be done. An orchestral interpretation of Dylan's "Subterranean Homesick Blues" and a Blue Grass rendition of Pink Floyds' "Interstellar Overdrive" are a couple of examples that come to mind. Oh, and mounting strobes on horizontal stabilizer tips. ;o) Do not archive. -GV (RV-6A N1GV 593hrs) ________________________________ Message 55 ____________________________________ Time: 11:08:10 PM PST US From: Ed Holyoke Subject: RE: RV-List: Rudder tip strobe? --> RV-List message posted by: Ed Holyoke I'm guessing that you meant vertical stab tip. Most of the spam you see with single tail strobe are going to have a roof over the cockpit blocking the strobe flash from the panel. In fact, Cessna's with tail strobes have a piece of metal in front of the tail strobe to help keep the light from coming through that wrap around rear glass. That's more drag on top of the more drag of an exposed beacon and it blocks light to the front for anti-collision purposes. With a clear canopy, it seems like the potential for annoying and distracting light in the cockpit is high. I've done enough night flying to have observed that, while position lights are visible alright, your eyes are drawn to strobes and you see them much sooner and further away. Then you look for the position lights to help you figure out the direction of flight. Wingtip strobes have the added benefit of making your airplane look much bigger. Having two sources of light 24' apart is much more visible than a single light, especially if they're alternating flashes and/or making multiple flashes like the Whelan comet flash. These are fast airplanes with potentially high closure rates to other traffic. The more visible you are, the better chance of them avoiding you if you don't see them first. Go for the brightest, flashingest, multiple light setup you can afford. My opinion, Ed Holyoke 6qb > > --> RV-List message posted by: Bill Dube > > At 10:03 AM 3/31/2003, you wrote: > >--> RV-List message posted by: "Jack Blomgren" > > > >Bill, > > > >For one thing your proffered strob location will be effectively blocked > >downward and forward by the fuselage and wings. > > According to the FAA, it is OK if the coverage is not 100%. A > single strobe on the tip of the stab is one of the standard systems given > as an example by the FAA. It is not an uncommon installation on OEM > aircraft. > > Indeed, the wing-tip method gives greater light distribution. > There is no question about that. However, you have to consider exactly > what > direction it is possible/probable for another aircraft to collide with > you. > The stab tip covers all the directions that another aircraft would likely > approach and collide. The only possible "blind spot" would be if you AND > the other aircraft were both climbing steeply in EXACT opposite > directions. > Still, your position lights would be visible. Doesn't sound like much of a > problem or much added risk. > > > > > >