Today's Message Index:
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1. 03:59 AM - Broken Canopy (Dana Overall)
2. 05:42 AM - Dual throttles (RV-6) (David Carter)
3. 06:51 AM - Re: backing strip around tip-up rear window (Elsa & Henry)
4. 07:09 AM - Re: Rudder tip strobe? (Bill Dube)
5. 07:11 AM - Re: Re: Wing tip strobes (Mark Phillips)
6. 07:21 AM - Wig-wags (was: Rudder tip strobe?) (Bill Dube)
7. 08:24 AM - Re: Meigs field (lm4@juno.com)
8. 09:00 AM - Re: Sliding Canopy Sealing (Randall Henderson)
9. 09:06 AM - The Danger of Speaking Out (T H)
10. 09:26 AM - Re: Meigs field (OT) (Greg Zuro)
11. 10:13 AM - Interior painting/priming (Geoff Evans)
12. 10:51 AM - Re: Interior painting/priming (Scott Bilinski)
13. 10:58 AM - Re: The Danger of Speaking Out (Dana Overall)
14. 11:06 AM - Primer and Paint (Jim Duckett)
15. 11:17 AM - RV-4 FOR SALE (bruno)
16. 12:01 PM - Cleveland vrs Grove brakes/wheels (Larry E. James)
17. 12:33 PM - Re: The Danger of Speaking Out (Bob)
18. 01:45 PM - Who's Affraid of Daley? (John)
19. 01:49 PM - Re: The Danger of Speaking Out (Chris W)
20. 02:14 PM - Oil filters [was Aeroshell 15w50] (Bill VonDane)
21. 02:56 PM - Re: backing strip around tip-up rear window (LarryRobertHelming)
22. 03:08 PM - Re: Chicago Mayor's office phone #-Meigs Field (Richard Lundin)
23. 04:34 PM - RV-6A Website update (Patrick Kelley)
24. 04:36 PM - Aero-Sport IR Alternators (J. R. Dial)
25. 05:02 PM - Re: Primer and Paint (Chris W)
26. 05:06 PM - Vans PC680 Odyssey battery box (Geoff Evans)
27. 05:20 PM - Re: Vans PC680 Odyssey battery box (Dan Checkoway)
28. 05:25 PM - Re: Who's Affraid of Daley? (Chris W)
29. 06:15 PM - Re: Vans PC680 Odyssey battery box (Ed Holyoke)
30. 06:27 PM - Re: Vans PC680 Odyssey battery box (Abwaldal@aol.com)
31. 06:33 PM - Re: Vans PC680 Odyssey battery box (Dan Checkoway)
32. 06:53 PM - Re: rv-list: Interior painting/priming (Jack Blomgren)
33. 07:17 PM - Re: Sportys A300 Nav/Com users manual (Gary)
34. 07:17 PM - Re: Panel Planner DXF File Problem (Jordan Grant)
35. 07:22 PM - Re: The Danger of Speaking Out (HalBenjamin@aol.com)
36. 07:51 PM - Sun & Fun get together (Dana Overall)
37. 07:59 PM - Re: Meigs field (Gary)
38. 08:19 PM - Re: Wig-wags (was: Rudder tip strobe?) (ranchspinner@Webtv.net (Mary L Bradley))
39. 08:33 PM - Re: RV-4 FOR SALE (kempthornes)
40. 08:57 PM - Re: RV-4 FOR SALE (kempthornes)
41. 09:32 PM - Matronics ISP Upgrade COMPLETED! (Matt Dralle)
42. 10:58 PM - [ Fred Stucklen ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares)
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
This is an email off one of the plastic airplane lists I am on. If anyone
had the misfortune, and still has the dead body, of breaking their canopy
this guy may be able to let you recoup some of your investment. Please
email him directly.
>If you happen to come across a broken canopy for an RV 6 somewhere in your
>travels in the RV circles, would you please let me know. I am looking for
>one with the rear portion of the canopy intact. It makes a great
>windshield for a KR. I guy out here in California used one and it really
>worked out well. I think I am going to change mine out when I find one.
>
>Thanks for any help you can give.
>
>Regards,
>
>Steve Glover
>Rancho Santa Margarita, Ca
>
>n925sg@earthlink.net
Dana Overall
Richmond, KY
RV-7 slider/fuselage
http://rvflying.tripod.com
do not archive
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| Subject: | Dual throttles (RV-6) |
--> RV-List message posted by: "David Carter" <dcarter@datarecall.net>
I've lost either an e-mail or a web-site that described how to have two panel mounted
push-pull throtles, one on left for pilot flying with right hand on stick,
other pretty much in standard center position for 'passenger'.
It talked about attaching a short cable from the left throttle to a point on the
main-full length cable from center at a point aft of the firewall, with only
the center cable going thru firewall.
Can anyone help me relocate this info?
David Carter
RV-6
Nederland, Texas
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| Subject: | Re: backing strip around tip-up rear window |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Elsa & Henry" <elsa-henry@darlor-watch.com>
I turned some ivory vinyl siding (left-overs from house work) to make a
bunch of 9/16" dia. washers and used them instead of the aluminum strip.
Each washer is sandwiched between the plexi and a -6L washer with a #6
low-profile nylock nut. Looks very neat. I also used the -6L washers and #6
low-profile nylocks along the tip-up sides. They weigh less than the UHMW
strips supplied in the kit and I tightened the screws just enough so that
the nuts can still be rotated by hand.
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| Subject: | Re: Rudder tip strobe? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Bill Dube <bdube@boulder.nist.gov>
>
>My RV-3 has a white strobe mounted on top of the vertical stab, not rudder,
>about in the middle. I have noticed no distracting flashing whatsoever in
>the cockpit during night ops. If I crank around hard in the cockpit so as
>to look at the vertical stab, I cannot see the strobe itself. I usually
>need to look at the refection off of the adjacent hangars to verify that it
>is indeed flashing.
Thanks for the practical experience. This is exactly the
information I was looking for. I wanted to know if the shading from the
forward part of the stab would be adequate and if reflection from the wings
would present a problem or if there were any hidden issues that I had
overlooked. I know exactly where to mount the strobe now.
This sort of "It works for me." or "It didn't work when I tried
it." information is what makes this discussion list great.
Thanks again!
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| Subject: | Re: Wing tip strobes |
--> RV-List message posted by: Mark Phillips <ripsteel@edge.net>
GV-
You got the old or new style tips? Anyone with the new tips (sheared ala RV7)
have this problem?
Mark
Vanremog@aol.com wrote:
> > But how about strobes mounted within wingtip lenses such as the Airtech or
> > the RMD systems? Do these embedded configurations add any undesirable
> > distraction?
>
> Yes, in the RMD's they do. But, I built small fiberglass vertical tip fins
> that help shield this from the pilot's view. Aluminum versions of these are
> common on low wing Grummans I've seen.
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| Subject: | Wig-wags (was: Rudder tip strobe?) |
--> RV-List message posted by: Bill Dube <bdube@boulder.nist.gov>
>
>We use wig wag lights in our CAP planes here in Utah, and because of
>what I have seen with them I'm installing two landing lights (one in
>each wing)in my RV-7a
>Wayne
I have read about wig wags for landing lights. They look cool, and
I thought about it, but it seemed to me to be one more thing to break or go
wrong.
I have had the landing light fail on a moonless night and I would
not wish to repeat that experience. You have no way to know if the runway
is blocked by a deer or a parked truck. Taxiing with a flashlight out the
window was no joy either. I was very relieved to get the plane on the
ground and parked in one piece that night.
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--> RV-List message posted by: lm4@juno.com
Imagine this.
Three runways crossed by three runways on a brand new airport. Situate
the
airport on a lake shore near a rail line and an expressway so it can use
rail
frieght loading docks as well as truck loading docks. Since car sales
have been
rather poor, you might want to put the field in Michigan so as to create
some jobs.
If you put it on the lake shore you could build Ferry docks. The Airline
passengers
would then have access to downtown Chicago. Perhaps you could build docks
in
chicago to land the ferry's at,oh, some place like a wildlife refuge,
Meigs wildlife
refuge comes to mind. Where would all this money come from ? Well, O'Hare
field
was looking for 6.5 Billion and is not going to get it. Maybe the money
they wanted
for O'Hare could get passed over to this new airport. We could call it
Gary Beikirk field.
This would relieve Chicagoans from a lot of the hazards they face from
aviation.
Larry Mac Donald
Rochester N.Y.
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On Tue, 01 Apr 2003 22:41:29 +0000 "Brian Denk" <akroguy@hotmail.com>
writes:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Denk" <akroguy@hotmail.com>
> >--> RV-List message posted by: "Wiethe, Philip (P.J.)"
> <pwiethe@ford.com>
>>Since his Majesty Daly's TFR does not currently restrict the
> airspace over
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| Subject: | Re: Sliding Canopy Sealing |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Randall Henderson" <randallh@attbi.com>
> ...t it would appear from reading past correspondence it's common practice
to use a sealer ( pro seal ) between the plexi glass and the frame. This is
not mentioned in the Vans manual. Would welcome your inputs and is there an
alternative to the dreaded black stuff.
Use Lexel. Lots about it in the archives, or send me email offline and I'll
tell you what I can about it.
Randall Henderson, RV-6 N6R (~450 hrs)
Portland, OR
www.vanshomewing.org
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| Subject: | The Danger of Speaking Out |
--> RV-List message posted by: "T H" <flyinggrizz@hotmail.com>
Before you exercise your right to free speech and make any comment to Mayor
Daleys office, consider the consequences. Under the new unconstitutional
pilot insecurity rules, the FAA will revoke the licenses of any pilot deemed
by the TSA to be a risk to transportation security. You will have no prior
notice, no prior chance to challenge the charge and you will not be allowed
to see the evidence that deemed you a risk. You may appeal but only to the
TSA who has already found you guilty. Meigs was closed because political
backroom deals allowed it. The Chicago TFR was first denied by the TSA/FAA
and then granted because of political pressure. The official reason for
closing Meigs was homeland security. When dealing with this type of mindset,
If you arent with us youre against us, any criticism makes you a
security risk. If the mayor can bully the TSA and FAA into an unnecessary
TFR, he can just as easily bully them into deeming his critics risks to
security.
"The greatest threat to freedom, even in today's perilous times, comes from
no foreign force. It comes from the dangerous habit many of our leaders fell
into over several generations -- letting the power and the resources that
are the basis of freedom slip from grass-roots America into the hands of a
remote central authority."
-- Ronald Reagan, 1982
In this age of terrorism, power and resources no longer slip into the hands
of central authorities, as President Reagan warned two decades ago they
are unabashedly snatched by leaders who claim to be promoting security. Our
country has changed and the freedoms we all grew up with are no longer
assured. Speak out if you will, but dont be surprised when you open your
mail one day and find you are no longer allowed to fly.
T. G. Hayhurst
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| Subject: | Re: Meigs field (OT) |
--> RV-List message posted by: Greg Zuro <gzuro@yahoo.com>
Unless he has moved since I last checked, He lives just NW of Meigs and
just S of the TFR, so you may as well fly over his townhouse, too.
I grew up in Chicago, and I must say that the soft spot in my heart is
rapidly diminishing. Pure Second City Syndrome. Just sad. Yes Mr. Mayor,
downtown Chicago -is- at least as important than a theme park.
This whole thing has literally made me sick to my stomach.
>Time: 11:12:02 AM PST US
>From: "Wiethe, Philip (P.J.)" <pwiethe@ford.com>
>Subject: RV-List: Meigs field
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Wiethe, Philip (P.J.)" <pwiethe@ford.com>
>
>Since his Majesty Daly's TFR does not currently restrict the airspace over
>top of Meigs, it would be cool to see a bunch of planes continually
>circling
>the pattern during daylight hours as a protest. That would really cheese
>him off to see a large group of so-called dangerous light aircraft
>continually in the air over the area.
http://tax.yahoo.com
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| Subject: | Interior painting/priming |
--> RV-List message posted by: Geoff Evans <hellothaimassage@yahoo.com>
I'm looking at the Cardinal A-4100 series acrylic enamel aerosol for my
interior paint.
Has anyone shot this paint over Akzo 2-part epoxy primer? The Akzo is pretty
green, and I'm wondering if the Cardinal paint will cover it up well enough.
While the Akzo is very durable and impervious to Acetone, MEK, etc., the clear
primer that came on my QB kit is not nearly as durable. How should I clean the
dust, oil, and other accumulated gunk off the surfaces that were previously
primed on the QB without removing the primer in the process?
I noticed in the archives that some people did not prime their interiors before
painting. How is this working out? It it really a good idea?
Thanks.
-Geoff
RV-8 QB fuselage
http://tax.yahoo.com
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| Subject: | Re: Interior painting/priming |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
Use degreaser (PPG 330). It will remove the oils and not hurt paint or
plastic. Keep wiping it down until the rag is fairly clean after wiping.
At 10:10 AM 4/2/03 -0800, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Geoff Evans <hellothaimassage@yahoo.com>
>
>I'm looking at the Cardinal A-4100 series acrylic enamel aerosol for my
>interior paint.
>
>Has anyone shot this paint over Akzo 2-part epoxy primer? The Akzo is pretty
>green, and I'm wondering if the Cardinal paint will cover it up well enough.
>
>While the Akzo is very durable and impervious to Acetone, MEK, etc., the clear
>primer that came on my QB kit is not nearly as durable. How should I clean the
>dust, oil, and other accumulated gunk off the surfaces that were previously
>primed on the QB without removing the primer in the process?
>
>I noticed in the archives that some people did not prime their interiors
before
>painting. How is this working out? It it really a good idea?
>
>Thanks.
>-Geoff
>RV-8 QB fuselage
>
>http://tax.yahoo.com
>
>
Scott Bilinski
Eng dept 305
Phone (858) 657-2536
Pager (858) 502-5190
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| Subject: | Re: The Danger of Speaking Out |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
Screw it, the danger is not speaking out.
Dana Overall
Richmond, KY
RV-7 slider/fuselage
http://rvflying.tripod.com
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>From: "T H" <flyinggrizz@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV-List: The Danger of Speaking Out
>Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 17:03:29 +0000
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "T H" <flyinggrizz@hotmail.com>
>
>
>Before you exercise your right to free speech and make any comment to Mayor
>Daleys office, consider the consequences. Under the new unconstitutional
>pilot insecurity rules, the FAA will revoke the licenses of any pilot
>deemed
>by the TSA to be a risk to transportation security. You will have no prior
>notice, no prior chance to challenge the charge and you will not be allowed
>to see the evidence that deemed you a risk. You may appeal but only to the
>TSA who has already found you guilty. Meigs was closed because political
>backroom deals allowed it. The Chicago TFR was first denied by the TSA/FAA
>and then granted because of political pressure. The official reason for
>closing Meigs was homeland security. When dealing with this type of
>mindset,
>If you arent with us youre against us, any criticism makes you a
>security risk. If the mayor can bully the TSA and FAA into an unnecessary
>TFR, he can just as easily bully them into deeming his critics risks to
>security.
>
>"The greatest threat to freedom, even in today's perilous times, comes from
>no foreign force. It comes from the dangerous habit many of our leaders
>fell
>into over several generations -- letting the power and the resources that
>are the basis of freedom slip from grass-roots America into the hands of a
>remote central authority."
>
>-- Ronald Reagan, 1982
>
>In this age of terrorism, power and resources no longer slip into the hands
>of central authorities, as President Reagan warned two decades ago they
>are unabashedly snatched by leaders who claim to be promoting security. Our
>country has changed and the freedoms we all grew up with are no longer
>assured. Speak out if you will, but dont be surprised when you open your
>mail one day and find you are no longer allowed to fly.
>
>T. G. Hayhurst
>
>
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| Subject: | Primer and Paint |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jim Duckett <perfeng@3rivers.net>
Dan,
Jerry is right. Black will be really hot even on what seems to be a
cool day. Even your 19 degree difference from a red is to be considered
IMHO.
The dark pigments don't have very much reflectivity (as in heat) as the
lighter ones do. With this in mind it will hold heat longer too.
As for primer and paint, for base primer your probably talking about 1
-2.25 gallons for a 3-5 mil coverage over all using vari-prime (@ 18 Lbs
/ Gal. weight) and Imron for base color over all for a 5-7 mill coverage
will be about the same figures.
These are just color and primer. You will still have to figure on
activator and reducers as well as wash thinner to clean everything up
afterwards.
What we've been having good success with is PPG Commercial Coatings Wash
Primer PLC 900 using PLC 901 activator. The weight figures to be around
10# per Gal. and it takes the place of both Alodining and vari-Prime.
The best part it's a little better than half the cost of Vari-Prime alone.
We still use Vari-Prime on all internal parts and components but the
wash primer under Du Pont , PPG and Randolph for exterior has been
working fine for us.
Worth what you paid for it.
Jim D. N708JD
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--> RV-List message posted by: bruno <rv4@videotron.ca>
Hello listers
After 2.5 years of ownership of my RV-4 the time has come to do
something else.Already flying 75 hrs +/month as an airline pilot, I am not
using it enough to justified the expense.
So here's the info: 1986 RV-4 (Winner of the outstanding RV-4 Award 0shosh
1986
(Feature in the SEPT 86 RvAtor as Normand
Camire's Beauty)
Total Time : 662.6 hrs
Engine TSO : 100 HRS ( Everything is new firewall fwd.)
Propeller : Catto 3 Bladded composite ( 70 hrs since new 2001)
Radios : UPS SL-40 (NEW 2001),Txpr,Loran C
Others : Full Christen inverted fuel/oil system
: Ellison Throttle body injector
: Hooker Harness (5 points) x 2
: Full gyro panel (Including EGT/CHT for each cylinder)
: New canopy
: New interior ( Aviation material,fireproof)
There is more but I can't think of it right now.
If you're interested, e-mail me or call me.
Aircraft is located 5.5 miles west of Montreal(Mirabel Int'l)
CYMX,Quebec,Canada.Presently in a hangar as I don't fly it in the winter.
I will be away from home April 03,04 2003 due to Simulator recurrent check
and from April 07 to April 11,2003 due to overseas flying but I will be home
after that so leave an e-mail or tel.message and I'll get back to you.
Asking: $ 52,000.00 U.S.
Cheers
Bruno Dionne
C-GDBH RV-4
rv4@videotron.ca
(450)438-5102/ home
(450)660-1274 / Cell
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| Subject: | Cleveland vrs Grove brakes/wheels |
required 5, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01)
--> RV-List message posted by: "Larry E. James" <larry@ncproto.com>
Has anyone had comparative experience with Cleveland and Grove ???? Since
we seem to have the option of either manufacturer, which one makes the
coolest brake / wheel parts?? How about reliability, quality, fit & finish,
braking power, etc.??
Larry E. James
Bellevue, WA HR2
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| Subject: | Re: The Danger of Speaking Out |
--> RV-List message posted by: Bob <panamared2@brier.net>
Hogwash
If exercising my political rights and free speech means that I can not fly,
then so be it. I have fought for the freedoms that this country enjoys, I
am not going to let some politico tell me what I can or can not say.
Bob Busick
> Speak out if you will, but dont be surprised when you open your
>mail one day and find you are no longer allowed to fly.
>
>T. G. Hayhurst
>
>
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| Subject: | Who's Affraid of Daley? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "John" <n1cxo320@salidaco.com>
I sent Daley a message saying that he was a man without honor, and that I
was ashamed for him. I gave my fully name and address.
I suspect he's being deluged with critical messages.
John at Salida, CO
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| Subject: | Re: The Danger of Speaking Out |
--> RV-List message posted by: Chris W <chrisw3@cox.net>
I am sure most of you have heard this before, but it is worth repeating.
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Historical Review of Pennsylvania
I think an important thing to remember is that we should fight for all freedoms
not just the ones that are important to us. It would be much harder for those
in power to take away our freedoms if it was everyone fighting back when some
freedom is being taken away not just having pilots fighting for the freedom to
fly or gun owners fighting for the right to own guns. Or whatever the freedom
might be, and it seems like we are loosing a lot of them lately.
Chris W
do not archive
Bob wrote:
> Hogwash
>
> If exercising my political rights and free speech means that I can not fly,
> then so be it. I have fought for the freedoms that this country enjoys, I
> am not going to let some politico tell me what I can or can not say.
>
> Bob Busick
>
> > Speak out if you will, but dont be surprised when you open your
> >mail one day and find you are no longer allowed to fly.
> >
> >T. G. Hayhurst
> >
> >
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| Subject: | Oil filters [was Aeroshell 15w50] |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com>
Ok... Who has the best prices on oil filters?
-Bill
RV-8A - www.vondane.com
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| Subject: | Re: backing strip around tip-up rear window |
--> RV-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" <lhelming@sigecom.net>
Dan, I made the optional backing strips. Looked to me like it was just as
easy making them ( used two strips per side that overlap at one point )
compared to using individual washers or independent washers/strips. Primed
them to match the inside color of the rest of the interior too. Looks to me
like the continuous strips can spread the load more evenly on the Plexiglas
and hopefully not induce any cracks where they are not wanted.
Larry in Indiana, RV7 Tip-up O-360 3XG reserved.
Working on Canopy of Finish Kit
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
Subject: RV-List: backing strip around tip-up rear window
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
>
> Got a question for those who have completed tip-up canopies on 6s and 7s.
> The RV-7 plans call for an aluminum backing strip that goes along the
inside
> of the rear window's aft edge. I'm trying to figure out if there's any
> structural or functional advantage to using a full-length strip as opposed
> to just washers.
>
> The way I see it, if I go ahead and trace the top skin contour to some
> aluminum to create the strip, when the strip goes on the inside of the
> window it will have to be ever so slightly smaller in length (inside of
the
> curve), otherwise it will probably "bow" in between fasteners. I think
> simply using washers would look cleaner.
>
> Any points of view out there on this?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> )_( Dan
> RV-7 N714D (canopy)
> http://www.rvproject.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Chicago Mayor's office phone #-Meigs Field |
--> RV-List message posted by: Richard Lundin <rlundin46@yahoo.com>
Vern,
Thank you for posting the the Mayors phone number. I
called and expressed my sincere disaproval of his
actions. Maybe if enough people call, email, etc. the
bozo will get the idea that he messed up. I'm a long
way from ready to fly but having been to Chicago alot
on business, I was really looking forward to landing
there some day.
Rick Lundin
RV-8 tail almost done
--- "Vern Darley,II" <vern@mindspring.com> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Vern Darley,II"
> <vern@mindspring.com>
>
> I called the Mayor's office -- 312-744-3334 --A lady
> is assigned to note our names and phone numbers for
> callback. Suggest calls,especially from those with
> business contacts in Chicago.
>
> Express yourself now firmly, but politely, or be
> content with the long-term impact on aviation from
> unaccountable and often ignorant politicians tearing
> up our airports.
>
> Contact your senators and representatives,also.
>
> Vern
>
>
>
> Contributions
> any other
> Forums.
>
> latest messages.
> List members.
>
> http://www.matronics.com/subscription
> http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV-List.htm
> Digests:http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv-list
> http://www.matronics.com/archives
> http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
> http://www.matronics.com/emaillists
>
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>
>
>
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| Subject: | RV-6A Website update |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Patrick Kelley" <webmaster@flion.com>
For those that have been following my project over the past eight years,
I have once again updated my website with new chapters and photos. The
url is www.flion.com <http://www.flion.com/> or, for those of you
running less than 1024x768 resolution, www.flion.com/rv6a/Default.htm
will take you there. I've finished the fuselage structure prior to
skinning. I've also just abandoned the film cameras I've been using; I
was just unable to get good close-ups with them. Now I've got a good
quality digital camera; you'll notice the difference in the last
chapter. Not only that, I'll be able to update more often - a couple
times a month, I hope. I've taken a cue from Dan Checkoway and started
adding arrows and lines to my pictures. Finally, I downsize my photos
on the web page, but the actual image sizes are often 2-3 times what you
see. You can save the pictures to your system by right clicking on
them, if you want, and then open them at their original size. Enjoy.
Patrick Kelley - RV-6A - Fuselage parts at the painters; soon to be
assembled and riveted
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| Subject: | Aero-Sport IR Alternators |
--> RV-List message posted by: "J. R. Dial" <jrdial@hal-pc.org>
They furnish and internal regulator alternator with their
engines. What do people use for over voltage protection with this
alternator? I have heard different stories on this so would like a
response from somebody that is using one of these. Reply off list is OK.
Thanks
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: Primer and Paint |
--> RV-List message posted by: Chris W <chrisw3@cox.net>
Jim Duckett wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Jim Duckett <perfeng@3rivers.net>
>
> Dan,
> Jerry is right. Black will be really hot even on what seems to be a
> cool day. Even your 19 degree difference from a red is to be considered
> IMHO.
> The dark pigments don't have very much reflectivity (as in heat) as the
> lighter ones do. With this in mind it will hold heat longer too.
Actually that isn't true. Black aluminum will both collect and radiate heat
faster than a lighter color. But as you corectly point out, it can make a
huge difference in how hot it gets in the sun.
What I wonder, for thoes who have to have black, is if a good high gloss UV
blocking clear coat would help reduce the effect some what.
Chris W
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| Subject: | Vans PC680 Odyssey battery box |
--> RV-List message posted by: Geoff Evans <hellothaimassage@yahoo.com>
I'm interested in using the PC680 Odyssey battery box that Vans sells for $50.
Everything in the archives mentions this box in conjunction with the RV-7 or
RV-9. Is there something specific about the box that would prevent its use on a
-8?
Also, I'm planning to put my battery in the baggage well as many others have
done. Is there anything about this battery box that would prevent it from being
mounted on the back side of the firewall (in the baggage well) instead of the
forward side of the firewall as originally intended?
Thanks.
-Geoff
RV-8 QB fuselage
http://tax.yahoo.com
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| Subject: | Re: Vans PC680 Odyssey battery box |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
The battery box is just that...it doesn't come pre-drilled, pre-lightened or
anything. It's just a 5-sided black painted (powder coated?) steel box.
The PC680 install kit comes with a couple of powder coated steel brackets
with nutplate and rivet holes pre-drilled. Those brackets mate up perfectly
to three bolt hole locations on the RV-7/--9 firewall. I'm sure you could
adapt them for use anywhere in any aircraft.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (canopy)
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Geoff Evans" <hellothaimassage@yahoo.com>
Subject: RV-List: Vans PC680 Odyssey battery box
> --> RV-List message posted by: Geoff Evans <hellothaimassage@yahoo.com>
>
> I'm interested in using the PC680 Odyssey battery box that Vans sells for
$50.
>
> Everything in the archives mentions this box in conjunction with the RV-7
or
> RV-9. Is there something specific about the box that would prevent its use
on a
> -8?
>
> Also, I'm planning to put my battery in the baggage well as many others
have
> done. Is there anything about this battery box that would prevent it from
being
> mounted on the back side of the firewall (in the baggage well) instead of
the
> forward side of the firewall as originally intended?
>
> Thanks.
> -Geoff
> RV-8 QB fuselage
>
> http://tax.yahoo.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Who's Affraid of Daley? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Chris W <chrisw3@cox.net>
What I think is ironic about all this is that if the average GA plane crashed
into the Sears Tower and the office it hit happened to be vacant that day, no
one in the building would probably even know it happened. Certainly no one
more than a floor away would know unless they looked out the right window at
just the right time. If the planes that hit the world trade center towers
weren't full of fuel those 2 buildings would still be standing.
do not archive
John wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "John" <n1cxo320@salidaco.com>
>
> I sent Daley a message saying that he was a man without honor, and that I
> was ashamed for him. I gave my fully name and address.
>
> I suspect he's being deluged with critical messages.
>
> John at Salida, CO
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| Subject: | Vans PC680 Odyssey battery box |
--> RV-List message posted by: Ed Holyoke <bicyclop@pacbell.net>
Dan,
What are the part #'s ? I'm about to order some stuff from Van's. And
where are the three bolt hole locations? I'm building a 6 and of course
those holes don't exist. I'm figuring that where Van's has the box is
one of the less busy areas of the firewall. I just don't know where the
busy spots are yet.
Ed Holyoke
6qb
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
>
> The battery box is just that...it doesn't come pre-drilled,
pre-lightened
> or
> anything. It's just a 5-sided black painted (powder coated?) steel
box.
> The PC680 install kit comes with a couple of powder coated steel
brackets
> with nutplate and rivet holes pre-drilled. Those brackets mate up
> perfectly
> to three bolt hole locations on the RV-7/--9 firewall. I'm sure you
could
> adapt them for use anywhere in any aircraft.
>
> )_( Dan
> RV-7 N714D (canopy)
> http://www.rvproject.com
>
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| Subject: | Re: Vans PC680 Odyssey battery box |
--> RV-List message posted by: Abwaldal@aol.com
Good morning Geoff
I put in my 6 on the firewall and see no problems putting it anywhere. It is
a neat little box. Holds the battery very snug.
Good luck Art
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| Subject: | Re: Vans PC680 Odyssey battery box |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
Here's the master parts list URL:
http://www.vansaircraft.com/public/parts.txt
Looks like you can get the tray separately, or the full kit:
ES PC680 BATTERY TRAY BATTERY TRAY ONLY $23.00
ES PC680 INSTALL KIT BATTERY MOUNT ODYSSEY $50.00
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (canopy)
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed Holyoke" <bicyclop@pacbell.net>
Subject: RE: RV-List: Vans PC680 Odyssey battery box
> --> RV-List message posted by: Ed Holyoke <bicyclop@pacbell.net>
>
> Dan,
>
> What are the part #'s ? I'm about to order some stuff from Van's. And
> where are the three bolt hole locations? I'm building a 6 and of course
> those holes don't exist. I'm figuring that where Van's has the box is
> one of the less busy areas of the firewall. I just don't know where the
> busy spots are yet.
>
> Ed Holyoke
> 6qb
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
> >
> > The battery box is just that...it doesn't come pre-drilled,
> pre-lightened
> > or
> > anything. It's just a 5-sided black painted (powder coated?) steel
> box.
> > The PC680 install kit comes with a couple of powder coated steel
> brackets
> > with nutplate and rivet holes pre-drilled. Those brackets mate up
> > perfectly
> > to three bolt hole locations on the RV-7/--9 firewall. I'm sure you
> could
> > adapt them for use anywhere in any aircraft.
> >
> > )_( Dan
> > RV-7 N714D (canopy)
> > http://www.rvproject.com
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: rv-list: Interior painting/priming |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jack Blomgren" <jackanet@hotmail.com>
Geoff,
For some unknown reason I failed to etch prime (no prime at all) the cockpit
side of just one of my -8 gear towers, and evidently just shot it with
Cardinal 4108 (rattle can paint). To answer your question, this did not
turn out very satisfactorily. Working on interior items near the tower I
quite easily, but unintentionally, abraided, chipped or otherwise scraped
away some of the Cardinal. Now I will pay the price by removing the more
exposed 4108, tape around the offending section, etch prime, and 4108 again.
Hope my error helps you.
Having a little fun rolling the bare canopy frame back and forth while the
canopy remains safely in its crate until the weather warms. I've kept the
fuselage down on it's knees about as long practical and will soon need to
put the gear on and make some work platforms like the big boys use. (I've
used Van's crates for everything from footing forms while building my shop
to strengthening the roof truss web above my I-beam hoist.) Over the years,
I wonder how many things have been made from Van's packing crates.
Best Regards,
Jack, Red Wing, MN; Twin City RV Wing
>From: Geoff Evans <hellothaimassage@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>To: RV List <rv-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RV-List: Interior painting/priming
>Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 10:10:35 -0800 (PST)
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: Geoff Evans <hellothaimassage@yahoo.com>
>
>I'm looking at the Cardinal A-4100 series acrylic enamel aerosol for my
>interior paint.
(Snip)
>I noticed in the archives that some people did not prime their interiors
>before
>painting. How is this working out? It it really a good idea?
>
>Thanks.
>-Geoff
>RV-8 QB fuselage
>
>http://tax.yahoo.com
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| Subject: | Re: Sportys A300 Nav/Com users manual |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Gary" <rv9er@3rivers.net>
06:02:34 PM PST US
From: "Jeff and Tamara Stokes" <jtstokes@netrover.com>
Subject: Sportys A300 Nav/Com users manual
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff and Tamara Stokes" <jtstokes@netrover.com>
I recently purchased a used Sporty's A300 Nav/Com for backup in my RV6. The
seller
didn't have the users manual and I am unfamiliar with its operation. Would
anyone be willing to make a copy?
Do not archive
Jeff Stokes RV6
Jeff.......
I can do that for you. By the way, it is a very good com radio. It was my one
and only radio in my Cygnet for several years. I never use the Nav. Email me
off list, and we'll fix you up.
Gary
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| Subject: | Panel Planner DXF File Problem |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jordan Grant" <jgrant@sw.rr.com>
Steve,
I sent it to another person that offered to help. Thank you very
much, though, and I may still take you up on the offer in the future
once I have the file finalized!
Jordan Grant
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of sdavis12
Subject: Re: RV-List: Panel Planner DXF File Problem
--> RV-List message posted by: "sdavis12" <sdavis12@midsouth.rr.com>
Jordan, send me the file I will convert to a AutoCAD file and send it
back to you!!!!
Steve Davis, The Panel Pilot sdavis12@midsouth.rr.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jordan Grant" <jgrant@sw.rr.com>
Subject: RV-List: Panel Planner DXF File Problem
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Jordan Grant" <jgrant@sw.rr.com>
>
> All:
> I recently purchased TurboCad v7 in order to view/modify Panel
> Planner DXF files. Unfortunately, TurboCad gives a 'Duplicate Handle'
> error each time I try to read the DXF files that are generated by
> Panel Planner. The files can be read just fine by a different DXF
> viewer program that I downloaded today. Has anyone else had this
problem?
> Would anyone be willing to read my DXF file into AutoCAD and save
> it as a DWG file?
>
> Thanks,
> Jordan Grant
> RV-6 Finishing
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: The Danger of Speaking Out |
--> RV-List message posted by: HalBenjamin@aol.com
In a message dated 4/2/2003 12:09:18 PM Eastern Standard Time,
flyinggrizz@hotmail.com writes:
> Before you exercise your right to free speech and make any comment to Mayor
> Daleys office, consider the consequences
You have to stand up to political BS. I've lived free all my life & don't
intend to change.
Hal Benjamin
Long Island, NY
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Sun & Fun get together |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
I'm leaving out tomorrow but will not get to SNF until about 2-3 on Friday.
I have the grill, brats, beer........OH, I mean Diet Coke and a bunch of get
together flyers to put on the RVs on the line.
Would someone who is at SNF already please ask Van's if it is OK for
RVlisters to meet at the Van's tent Saturday at 5PM for a brats and Diet
Coke get together. If we need too, we can always do it somewhere else but
meeting there would be the easiest.
OH, BTW screw Daley and that's what my email to him said.
Dana Overall
cell 859 625-2844
Richmond, KY
RV-7 slider/fuselage
http://rvflying.tripod.com
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Gary" <rv9er@3rivers.net>
>.............Since his Majesty Daly's TFR does not currently restrict the
airspace over
>top of Meigs, it would be cool to see a bunch of planes continually
>circling
>the pattern during daylight hours as a protest. That would really cheese
>him off to see a large group of so-called dangerous light aircraft
>continually in the air over the area.
>
Oh man, what a deliciously wicked ploy. *very evil grin*. It would truly
be a most gratifying exercise. I would consider this to be a call to arms
for local fliers!.............
That might be a fun little lark, guys, but Daly also got the okay for TFR's for
the Chicago area recently, if I am not mistaken. So I guess he does have some
control over the airspace.
If we are going to have any effect on the dishonest, arrogant, and blatantly defiant
asshole, we'll have to get serious. How about a gigantic class action law
suit? Since the civil judicial system and associated lawyers are already out
of hand, why not use them towards a just cause?
Gary
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Wig-wags (was: Rudder tip strobe?) |
2003 08:23:09 -0700
--> RV-List message posted by: ranchspinner@webtv.net (Mary L Bradley)
Bill, Saw your reply to Wayne, I'm CAP in Steamboat Springs,CO. Look
into the Grand Junction sar x next month. also www.eaa800.com we have a
poker run in May hope to meet you somewhere. Dave LeBarron RV9A
fusealage
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| Subject: | Re: RV-4 FOR SALE |
--> RV-List message posted by: kempthornes <kempthornes@earthlink.net>
Hi,
What engine? HP etc - factory new?
Any problems, cracks, corrosion, compressions, oil pressure etc.
Lights?
Color?
hal
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| Subject: | Re: RV-4 FOR SALE |
--> RV-List message posted by: kempthornes <kempthornes@earthlink.net>
Hi,
They should have been attending the primer wars??? Latest shuttle
news. At first I thought it was just April Fools -
HOUSTON - Paint primer leaching off the shuttle launch towers may have
eaten tiny holes in the leading edge of Columbia's left wing, weakening it
enough to break when struck by a chunk of foam during liftoff, accident
investigators said Tuesday
PS - Sorry for asking about the RV4 of the whole list.
do not archive
K. H. (Hal) Kempthorne
RV6-a N7HK flying!
PRB (El Paso de Robles, CA)
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| Subject: | Matronics ISP Upgrade COMPLETED! |
--> RV-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Dear Listers,
I just wanted to send out a quick note to let everyone know that the 1.5Mb
T1 connection upgrade went smoothly today. They brought up the new line
and router yesterday on a test subnet and today the ISP switched over
connectivity about 12 noon with little to no incident. I just finished
some performance testing, and it appears that actual throughput and
interactive response is noticeably improved as advertised!
Enjoy!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin.
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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| Subject: | [ Fred Stucklen ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! |
--> RV-List message posted by: Email List Photo Shares <pictures@matronics.com>
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