RV-List Digest Archive

Thu 04/03/03


Total Messages Posted: 22



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     1. 12:55 AM - Re: The Danger of Speaking Out (JNice51355@aol.com)
     2. 05:53 AM - Powersport Rotary  (Don.Alexander@AstenJohnson.com)
     3. 07:14 AM - Re: Powersport Rotary  (Wayne Reese)
     4. 07:28 AM - Monitor sun-n-fun tower (Tripp Myrick)
     5. 07:50 AM - Re: The Danger of Speaking Out (Phil Birkelbach)
     6. 07:59 AM - The Recreational Freedom Coalition ()
     7. 07:59 AM - Re: The Danger of Speaking Out (Neil McLeod)
     8. 08:11 AM - Re: The Danger of Speaking Out (Scott Brumbelow)
     9. 08:49 AM - Re: The Recreational Freedom Coalition (Phil Birkelbach)
    10. 09:18 AM - Re: Meigs field (Randall Henderson)
    11. 09:47 AM - Navaid & Garmin 196 (Bill VonDane)
    12. 10:03 AM - Re: backing strip around tip-up rear window  (JusCash@aol.com)
    13. 10:32 AM - LED Map Lights (Bill VonDane)
    14. 12:08 PM - Re: LED Map Lights (Mark Phillips)
    15. 12:53 PM - Fw: Luscombe: Fw: [texas-flyers] Online Meigs petition (Cy Galley)
    16. 01:55 PM - Meigs Closing (Cy Galley)
    17. 04:37 PM - Re: Meigs Closing (Tedd McHenry)
    18. 04:46 PM - Meigs Madness (Rick Galati)
    19. 06:36 PM - Fw: Wear Red on friday(s) (John Starn)
    20. 09:15 PM - Vinyl washers for canopy. (Rob W M Shipley)
    21. 11:05 PM - Re: Fw: Wear Red on friday(s) (Kysh)
    22. 11:41 PM - main gear nuts (Dan Checkoway)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:55:32 AM PST US
    From: JNice51355@aol.com
    Subject: Re: The Danger of Speaking Out
    --> RV-List message posted by: JNice51355@aol.com In a message dated 4/2/03 1:51:46 PM Pacific Standard Time, chrisw3@cox.net writes: > I think an important thing to remember is that we should fight for all > freedoms > not just the ones that are important to us. BINGO!!! Why does it take us so long to grasp that principle?? I've met so many folks that fail to appreciate the rights of others unless it affects them directly, and it's no wonder more of our rights haven't disappeared.


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    Time: 05:53:50 AM PST US
    Subject: Powersport Rotary
    From: Don.Alexander@AstenJohnson.com
    04/03/2003 08:51:05 AM --> RV-List message posted by: Don.Alexander@AstenJohnson.com Has anyone heard news from Powersport lately? I sent them an inquiry last week and have not had a reply. It looks like their website has grown stale, as well. I am beginning to think that they may be no longer with us. Their engine / psru looked pretty interesting. Do not archive RV-8 Wings


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    Time: 07:14:56 AM PST US
    From: "Wayne Reese" <waynereese@qwest.net>
    Subject: Powersport Rotary
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Wayne Reese" <waynereese@qwest.net> People I know that have paid money to power sport have been told they have to pay several times more in order to receive what they have paid for. I would be very concerned about sending them any money, it appears they may be turned in to the law. They defiantly are not a trustworthy company. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don.Alexander@AstenJohnson.com Subject: RV-List: Powersport Rotary --> RV-List message posted by: Don.Alexander@AstenJohnson.com Has anyone heard news from Powersport lately? I sent them an inquiry last week and have not had a reply. It looks like their website has grown stale, as well. I am beginning to think that they may be no longer with us. Their engine / psru looked pretty interesting. Do not archive RV-8 Wings


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    Time: 07:28:27 AM PST US
    From: "Tripp Myrick" <tmyrick@mchsi.com>
    Subject: Monitor sun-n-fun tower
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Tripp Myrick" <tmyrick@mchsi.com> Anyone know how to listen to the Lakeland tower over the internet? Tripp Myrick RV-8 Do not Archive


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    Time: 07:50:18 AM PST US
    From: "Phil Birkelbach" <phil@petrasoft.net>
    Subject: Re: The Danger of Speaking Out
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Phil Birkelbach" <phil@petrasoft.net> I almost hate to suggest this (only because I might get volunteered for something) but it seems to me that there are a bunch of small groups in this country that continually have their freedoms erroded away because they are a small part of the total population. I heard that recreational boaters are being restricted around the ship channel here in Houston due to 'security concerns' and I know that hunters and gun owners continually fight to be able to do what they enjoy. The problem is that we (aviators) don't pay a lot of attention to the issues surrounding boating and the boaters don't pay attention to us. If we got in line to scream at the politicians when they encroached on the boaters rights then they would help us with people like Mayor Saddam. Maybe I am too optimistic but I would really like to see an organization started that had a name like "The Recreational Freedom Coalition" that wouldn't necessariliy fight for any particular group's issues but would fight for all of our freedoms to enjoy these recreational activities, and would keep us all informed of what the other guys are up against. I would love to write my congressman about the freedoms that are being taken away from the fisherman in my area if they would help with aviation issues. The problem is that I don't know what is going on in fishing because I am not a fisherman. Maybe fisherman don't have any of these problems but that is not the point. The reason that the TSA attacks small airplane pilots is because there are not enough of us. They know they can't restrict the Airlines because that would affect too many people and as such would not be politically feasible. I suspect that there are other groups that have the same problem and if we pulled together then we would have the numbers to scare these dictator wannabes away. Godspeed, Phil Birkelbach - Houston Texas RV-7 N727WB (Reserved) - Fuselage http://www.myrv7.com Sorry I just had to get that out. I am tired of being outnumbered by ignorant people. DO NOT ARCHIVE ----- Original Message ----- From: <JNice51355@aol.com> Subject: Re: RV-List: The Danger of Speaking Out > --> RV-List message posted by: JNice51355@aol.com > > In a message dated 4/2/03 1:51:46 PM Pacific Standard Time, chrisw3@cox.net > writes: > > > > I think an important thing to remember is that we should fight for all > > freedoms > > not just the ones that are important to us. > > BINGO!!! Why does it take us so long to grasp that principle?? I've met so > many folks that fail to appreciate the rights of others unless it affects > them directly, and it's no wonder more of our rights haven't disappeared.


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    Time: 07:59:01 AM PST US
    From: <315@cox.net>
    Subject: The Recreational Freedom Coalition
    --> RV-List message posted by: <315@cox.net> I'd like to join. I hereby nominate you to be our first president. Let's get this going. Seriously. Ned ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Birkelbach" <phil@petrasoft.net> Subject: Re: RV-List: The Danger of Speaking Out > --> RV-List message posted by: "Phil Birkelbach" <phil@petrasoft.net> > > I almost hate to suggest this (only because I might get volunteered for > something) but it seems to me that there are a bunch of small groups in this > country that continually have their freedoms erroded away because they are a > small part of the total population. I heard that recreational boaters are > being restricted around the ship channel here in Houston due to 'security > concerns' and I know that hunters and gun owners continually fight to be > able to do what they enjoy. The problem is that we (aviators) don't pay a > lot of attention to the issues surrounding boating and the boaters don't pay > attention to us. If we got in line to scream at the politicians when they > encroached on the boaters rights then they would help us with people like > Mayor Saddam. > > Maybe I am too optimistic but I would really like to see an organization > started that had a name like "The Recreational Freedom Coalition" that > wouldn't necessariliy fight for any particular group's issues but would > fight for all of our freedoms to enjoy these recreational activities, and > would keep us all informed of what the other guys are up against. I would > love to write my congressman about the freedoms that are being taken away > from the fisherman in my area if they would help with aviation issues. The > problem is that I don't know what is going on in fishing because I am not a > fisherman. Maybe fisherman don't have any of these problems but that is not > the point. > > The reason that the TSA attacks small airplane pilots is because there are > not enough of us. They know they can't restrict the Airlines because that > would affect too many people and as such would not be politically feasible. > I suspect that there are other groups that have the same problem and if we > pulled together then we would have the numbers to scare these dictator > wannabes away. > > Godspeed, > > Phil Birkelbach - Houston Texas > RV-7 N727WB (Reserved) - Fuselage > http://www.myrv7.com > > Sorry I just had to get that out. I am tired of being outnumbered by > ignorant people. DO NOT ARCHIVE > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <JNice51355@aol.com> > To: <rv-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: RV-List: The Danger of Speaking Out > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: JNice51355@aol.com > > > > In a message dated 4/2/03 1:51:46 PM Pacific Standard Time, > chrisw3@cox.net > > writes: > > > > > > > I think an important thing to remember is that we should fight for all > > > freedoms > > > not just the ones that are important to us. > > > > BINGO!!! Why does it take us so long to grasp that principle?? I've met > so > > many folks that fail to appreciate the rights of others unless it affects > > them directly, and it's no wonder more of our rights haven't disappeared. > >


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    Time: 07:59:43 AM PST US
    From: "Neil McLeod" <bedrock@theriver.com>
    Subject: The Danger of Speaking Out
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Neil McLeod" <bedrock@theriver.com> Also a good reason to encourage all pilots to join AOPA -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Phil Birkelbach Subject: Re: RV-List: The Danger of Speaking Out --> RV-List message posted by: "Phil Birkelbach" <phil@petrasoft.net> I almost hate to suggest this (only because I might get volunteered for something) but it seems to me that there are a bunch of small groups in this


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    Time: 08:11:00 AM PST US
    From: Scott Brumbelow <csbrumbelow@fedex.com>
    Subject: Re: The Danger of Speaking Out
    --> RV-List message posted by: Scott Brumbelow <csbrumbelow@fedex.com> Sounds like a great idea - you're hired! Seriously, I would suggest you forward this - either via email or phone call - to AOPA (and perhaps EAA) to see if they have ever considered such an approach. It seems to have merit to me, but there may be reasons we don't know about that something like this doesn't already exist. If so, AOPA/EAA may have some insight. If not, then they MAY have some interest in participating/leading??? You never know until you ask. Scott in MEM do not archive Phil Birkelbach wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Phil Birkelbach" <phil@petrasoft.net> > > I almost hate to suggest this (only because I might get volunteered for > something) but it seems to me that there are a bunch of small groups in this > country that continually have their freedoms erroded away because they are a > small part of the total population. I heard that recreational boaters are > being restricted around the ship channel here in Houston due to 'security > concerns' and I know that hunters and gun owners continually fight to be > able to do what they enjoy. The problem is that we (aviators) don't pay a > lot of attention to the issues surrounding boating and the boaters don't pay > attention to us. If we got in line to scream at the politicians when they > encroached on the boaters rights then they would help us with people like > Mayor Saddam. > > Maybe I am too optimistic but I would really like to see an organization > started that had a name like "The Recreational Freedom Coalition" that > wouldn't necessariliy fight for any particular group's issues but would > fight for all of our freedoms to enjoy these recreational activities, and > would keep us all informed of what the other guys are up against. I would > love to write my congressman about the freedoms that are being taken away > from the fisherman in my area if they would help with aviation issues. The > problem is that I don't know what is going on in fishing because I am not a > fisherman. Maybe fisherman don't have any of these problems but that is not > the point. > > The reason that the TSA attacks small airplane pilots is because there are > not enough of us. They know they can't restrict the Airlines because that > would affect too many people and as such would not be politically feasible. > I suspect that there are other groups that have the same problem and if we > pulled together then we would have the numbers to scare these dictator > wannabes away. > > Godspeed, > > Phil Birkelbach - Houston Texas > RV-7 N727WB (Reserved) - Fuselage > http://www.myrv7.com > > Sorry I just had to get that out. I am tired of being outnumbered by > ignorant people. DO NOT ARCHIVE > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <JNice51355@aol.com> > To: <rv-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: RV-List: The Danger of Speaking Out > > > --> RV-List message posted by: JNice51355@aol.com > > > > In a message dated 4/2/03 1:51:46 PM Pacific Standard Time, > chrisw3@cox.net > > writes: > > > > > > > I think an important thing to remember is that we should fight for all > > > freedoms > > > not just the ones that are important to us. > > > > BINGO!!! Why does it take us so long to grasp that principle?? I've met > so > > many folks that fail to appreciate the rights of others unless it affects > > them directly, and it's no wonder more of our rights haven't disappeared. >


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    Time: 08:49:31 AM PST US
    From: "Phil Birkelbach" <phil@petrasoft.net>
    Subject: Re: The Recreational Freedom Coalition
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Phil Birkelbach" <phil@petrasoft.net> You don't want me to be president. I am far too lazy and far too obsessed with building my airplane to be effective. I would think the best way for this thing to come together would be for the existing alphabet organizations to create it. I will send Boyer a note today however and make a suggestion. We are all members of the AOPA right?????!!!!!!! Godspeed, Phil Birkelbach - Houston Texas RV-7 N727WB (Reserved) - Fuselage http://www.myrv7.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <315@cox.net> Subject: RV-List: The Recreational Freedom Coalition > --> RV-List message posted by: <315@cox.net> > > I'd like to join. I hereby nominate you to be our first president. Let's get > this going. Seriously. > Ned > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Phil Birkelbach" <phil@petrasoft.net> > To: <rv-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: RV-List: The Danger of Speaking Out > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Phil Birkelbach" <phil@petrasoft.net> > > > > I almost hate to suggest this (only because I might get volunteered for > > something) but it seems to me that there are a bunch of small groups in > this > > country that continually have their freedoms erroded away because they are > a > > small part of the total population. I heard that recreational boaters are > > being restricted around the ship channel here in Houston due to 'security > > concerns' and I know that hunters and gun owners continually fight to be > > able to do what they enjoy. The problem is that we (aviators) don't pay a > > lot of attention to the issues surrounding boating and the boaters don't > pay > > attention to us. If we got in line to scream at the politicians when they > > encroached on the boaters rights then they would help us with people like > > Mayor Saddam. > > > > Maybe I am too optimistic but I would really like to see an organization > > started that had a name like "The Recreational Freedom Coalition" that > > wouldn't necessariliy fight for any particular group's issues but would > > fight for all of our freedoms to enjoy these recreational activities, and > > would keep us all informed of what the other guys are up against. I would > > love to write my congressman about the freedoms that are being taken away > > from the fisherman in my area if they would help with aviation issues. > The > > problem is that I don't know what is going on in fishing because I am not > a > > fisherman. Maybe fisherman don't have any of these problems but that is > not > > the point. > > > > The reason that the TSA attacks small airplane pilots is because there are > > not enough of us. They know they can't restrict the Airlines because that > > would affect too many people and as such would not be politically > feasible. > > I suspect that there are other groups that have the same problem and if we > > pulled together then we would have the numbers to scare these dictator > > wannabes away. > > > > Godspeed, > > > > Phil Birkelbach - Houston Texas > > RV-7 N727WB (Reserved) - Fuselage > > http://www.myrv7.com > > > > Sorry I just had to get that out. I am tired of being outnumbered by > > ignorant people. DO NOT ARCHIVE > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <JNice51355@aol.com> > > To: <rv-list@matronics.com> > > Subject: Re: RV-List: The Danger of Speaking Out > > > > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: JNice51355@aol.com > > > > > > In a message dated 4/2/03 1:51:46 PM Pacific Standard Time, > > chrisw3@cox.net > > > writes: > > > > > > > > > > I think an important thing to remember is that we should fight for all > > > > freedoms > > > > not just the ones that are important to us. > > > > > > BINGO!!! Why does it take us so long to grasp that principle?? I've > met > > so > > > many folks that fail to appreciate the rights of others unless it > affects > > > them directly, and it's no wonder more of our rights haven't > disappeared. > > > > > >


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    Time: 09:18:27 AM PST US
    From: "Randall Henderson" <randallh@attbi.com>
    Subject: Re: Meigs field
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Randall Henderson" <randallh@attbi.com> Personally I think a "Missing Man" formation over the field, once a day or as often as practical, in honor of those who have died in the name of freedom, would be both more appropriate and better PR. Randall Henderson do not archive > >.............Since his Majesty Daly's TFR does not currently restrict the airspace over > >top of Meigs, it would be cool to see a bunch of planes continually > >circling > >the pattern during daylight hours as a protest. That would really cheese > >him off to see a large group of so-called dangerous light aircraft > >continually in the air over the area. > >


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    Time: 09:47:31 AM PST US
    From: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com>
    Subject: Navaid & Garmin 196
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com> Has anyone hooked a Garmin 196 and Navaid together? If so, can you contact me off line with more details!? -Bill VonDane RV-8A - www.vondane.com do not archive


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    Time: 10:03:24 AM PST US
    From: JusCash@aol.com
    Subject: Re: backing strip around tip-up rear window
    --> RV-List message posted by: JusCash@aol.com I to used the backing strips and Lexel to mount my rear window. IMHO the backing strips give a more finished look. I mounted the window and strips with cleco's and then masked to the edge with masking tape. Then mounted the window with aluminum pop rivets. The tape made a nice parting line for the Lexel. A heads up on Lexel, it tacks up pretty quick so you have to work fast. Cash Copeland RV6 N46FC Hayward, Ca In a message dated 4/3/2003 12:06:13 AM Pacific Standard Time, rv-list-digest@matronics.com writes: > > --> RV-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" <lhelming@sigecom.net> > > Dan, I made the optional backing strips. Looked to me like it was just as > easy making them ( used two strips per side that overlap at one point ) > compared to using individual washers or independent washers/strips. Primed > them to match the inside color of the rest of the interior too. Looks to > me > like the continuous strips can spread the load more evenly on the Plexiglas > and hopefully not induce any cracks where they are not wanted. > > Larry in Indiana, RV7 Tip-up O-360 3XG reserved. > Working on Canopy of Finish Kit > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com> > Subject: RV-List: backing strip around tip-up rear window > > > >--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com> > > > >Got a question for those who have completed tip-up canopies on 6s and 7s. > >The RV-7 plans call for an aluminum backing strip that goes along the > inside > >of the rear window's aft edge. I'm trying to figure out if there's any > >structural or functional advantage to using a full-length strip as opposed > >to just washers. > > > >The way I see it, if I go ahead and trace the top skin contour to some > >aluminum to create the strip, when the strip goes on the inside of the > >window it will have to be ever so slightly smaller in length (inside of > the > >curve), otherwise it will probably "bow" in between fasteners. I think > >simply using washers would look cleaner. > > > >Any points of view out there on this? > > > >Thanks in advance, > >)_( Dan > >RV-7 N714D (canopy) > >http://www.rvproject.com > > >


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    Time: 10:32:19 AM PST US
    From: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com>
    Subject: LED Map Lights
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com> I know I saw some map lights that have LED's in them... Can someone help me to find them again? Thanks! -Bill VonDane RV-8A - www.vondane.com do not archive


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    Time: 12:08:12 PM PST US
    From: Mark Phillips <ripsteel@edge.net>
    Subject: Re: LED Map Lights
    --> RV-List message posted by: Mark Phillips <ripsteel@edge.net> go to: http://www.glow-bug.com/list.php?table=description&search=infinity Haven't mounted them yet, but they work pretty well- self-contained, AA battery powered (change @ annual) and finished like a little maglite- somebody else on the list mentioned them a couple of months ago- the yellow ones with black case are still just $16 ea. From The PossumWorks in TN Mark Bill VonDane wrote: > I know I saw some map lights that have LED's in them... Can someone help me > to find them again?


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    Time: 12:53:36 PM PST US
    From: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
    Subject: Fw: Luscombe: Fw: [texas-flyers] Online Meigs petition
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org> Might try this if you have time. - Cy Galley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Katie Jarrett" <Katie@ARKAero.com> Subject: Luscombe: Fw: [texas-flyers] Online Meigs petition > This can use everyone's help > > > http://www.petitiononline.com/meigs/ > > > FREE Cell Phones with up to $400 Cash Back! > http://us.click.yahoo.com/_bBUKB/vYxFAA/i5gGAA/0yWplB/TM > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > texas-flyers-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > Subscription; www.luscombe.org/directory.html > > == ================================================================ > > Or send an email to: luscombe-unsubscribe@topica.com > > == ================================================================ >


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    Time: 01:55:12 PM PST US
    From: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
    Subject: Meigs Closing
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org> This is another compelling reason why Meigs should not have been closed. Apr 3, 2003 15:20 ET Illinois Air Medical Community Stunned Over Closing of Meigs and The Implications on Critical Patient Transport into Downtown Chicago Hospitals CHICAGO, April 3 /PRNewswire/ -- The Illinois Association of Air and Critical Care Transport (IAACCT) and its members are extremely concerned over the recent closing of Meigs Field and how it will affect the movement of critically ill/injured patients into (and possibly out of) downtown Chicago hospitals. Until Sunday, patients have been airlifted into Meigs by helicopter and/or fixed-wing aircraft and then transported a short distance by ground to area hospitals. Now, with the closure of Meigs, there are no approved landing zones or helipads in the immediate downtown area. The state's 11 air-medical helicopter and fixed-wing programs transport an average of 200 complex medical and/or trauma patients, as well as organ transplant teams, to hospitals in the downtown area each year from outlying hospitals throughout Illinois, parts of Wisconsin and northwestern Indiana. According to Craig Felty, President of IAACCT, "The patients we transport are time-critical, complex cases that demand the time-saving and advanced clinical care that an air-medical crew provides. Without an approved landing area in close proximity to downtown, whether it is for a helicopter or a fixed-wing aircraft, the patients may now have to be transported greater distances by ground from a suitable landing area. In my opinion, these potential delays definitely could have a negative impact on patients destined for downtown facilities." Another concern of IAACCT is the air transport of patients out of the city of Chicago. An example of the need to rapidly transport patients out of downtown facilities would include situations involving catastrophic injuries or illnesses affecting the city. Air-medical helicopters and fixed-wing aircraft could provide rapid transport of patients to other facilities to reduce censuses, open up needed beds, and free up valuable resources at downtown hospitals. Meigs Field provided an excellent facility for this sort of disaster, allowing safe, efficient, and rapid access by multiple aircraft. Source: Illinois Association of Air and Critical Care Transport Cy Galley - Bellanca Champion Club Newsletter Editor & EAA TC www.bellanca-championclub.com We support Aeroncas


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    Time: 04:37:05 PM PST US
    From: Tedd McHenry <tedd@vansairforce.org>
    Subject: Re: Meigs Closing
    --> RV-List message posted by: Tedd McHenry <tedd@vansairforce.org> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org> > --snip-- > > Another concern of IAACCT is the air transport of patients out of the city > of Chicago. So, in other words, the Mayor has probably decreased the security of Chicago citizens in the face of a terrorist attack, in the name of Homeland Security. Good one. Tedd McHenry Surrey, BC


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    Time: 04:46:25 PM PST US
    From: Rick Galati <rick6a@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Meigs Madness
    --> RV-List message posted by: Rick Galati <rick6a@yahoo.com> Listers: Here is yet another chance to publicly voice your displeasure, this time directed at the mayor of Chicago. Since fewer than 700 pilots bothered to go on record for the OTHER issue of late, I really do not anticipate a sea change in attitude this time either. But hope does spring eternal. Follow the link. Rick Galati http://www.petitiononline.com/meigs/petition.html ---------------------------------


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    Time: 06:36:14 PM PST US
    From: "John Starn" <jhstarn@earthlink.net>
    "JOE FITZGERALD" <jjkfitz@aol.com>, "Mike Thompson" <grobdriver@yahoo.com>, "Louis Willig" <larywil@comcast.net>, "Frank Days" <fedays@netscape.net>, <rv-list@matronics.com>, <rocket-list@matronics.com>, "Dotty Ray" <dotty@dottyray.com>, "Dale Mogk" <dmogk@earthlink.net>, "Henry Gilson" <henrygilson@aol.com>, "LENNON TINA" <TINA_LENNON@NYMC.EDU>
    Subject: Fw: Wear Red on friday(s)
    --> RV-List message posted by: "John Starn" <jhstarn@earthlink.net> One small act for each of us, one single voice for our troops. Delete if your against the war. "off subject". Do Not Archive > -----Original Message----- > From: Straubmuller, Tracy: > [mailto:Tracy.Straubmuller@conocophillips.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 10:32 AM > To: 'wayne@cottman.com'; 'john.shute@pseg.com'; Ruby Cerince > Subject: FW: Wear Red > Sincerely, > Tracy A. Straubmuller > Trainer Refinery > Accounting Dept > phone (610-364-8070) > fax (610-364-8069) > > Subject: FW: Wear Red "Spread the word"....... Subject: wear something RED on Friday. It has come to my attention that quite a few Americans support our troops but as usual we are the silent majority. We are not organized to really reflect who we are. I would like to start a grass roots movement using the membership of the Special Operations Association and the Special Forces Association to recognize Americans who support our troops. My idea is not to stand on street corners once or twice, not to carry stupid signs in a rally, not to carry our flag in parades. Its much simpler than that. We need to inform the local VFW's and American Legion, our local press, local TV, and even up to the national levels as we start to get this going. My idea of showing our solidarity and support for our troops is that starting Friday and continuing on each and every Friday, that we and every red blooded American who supports our young men and women, Word of mouth, press, TV, lets see if we can make the United States, on any given Friday, a sea of red much like a home football game at the University of Nebraska. If everyone of our memberships share this with other acquaintances, fellow workers, drinking buddies, country club friends, I guarantee you that it will not be long before the USA will be covered in Red much to the disdain of the the un-American ralliers. Lets get the word out and lead by example, wear RED on Fridays. Thanks for your time and consideration of my proposal. When I get home, I intend to send this out to everyone on my e-mail list, hopefully, you will too.


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    Time: 09:15:46 PM PST US
    From: "Rob W M Shipley" <Rob@RobsGlass.com>
    Subject: Vinyl washers for canopy.
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Rob W M Shipley" <Rob@RobsGlass.com> Elsa & Henry wrote From: "Elsa & Henry" <elsa-henry@darlor-watch.com> I turned some ivory vinyl siding (left-overs from house work) to make a bunch of 9/16" dia. washers and used them instead of the aluminum strip. Each washer is sandwiched between the plexi and a -6L washer with a #6 low-profile nylock nut. Looks very neat. I also used the -6L washers and #6 low-profile nylocks along the tip-up sides. They weigh less than the UHMW strips supplied in the kit and I tightened the screws just enough so that the nuts can still be rotated by hand. Question. I know that vinyl is very subject to out-gassing of solvents. I also know that plexiglass is very touchy about a plethora of different chemicals. Does anyone know if this idea presents any risk to the canopy over time? Rob Rob W M Shipley RV9A N919RV Fuselage.


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    Time: 11:05:55 PM PST US
    From: Kysh <vans-dragon@lapdragon.org>
    Subject: Re: Fw: Wear Red on friday(s)
    --> RV-List message posted by: Kysh <vans-dragon@lapdragon.org> As John Starn was saying: > --> RV-List message posted by: "John Starn" <jhstarn@earthlink.net> > > One small act for each of us, one single voice for our troops. > Delete if your against the war. "off subject". Do Not Archive > It has come to my attention that quite a few Americans support > our troops but as usual we are the silent majority. We are not .. I sincerely apologise for posting this, but.. I have not heard a single person speak out against the troops. Not now, not during GW-1, not once in my lifetime (I was born after Vietnam, so I can't speak for people in that era) have I ever heard any American express any sentiments against the troops. I especially have not heard a 'vocal majority' who are against our military personnel. Many of us think that the war is terrible foriegn policy, comic book diplomacy, and that it is destructive to the reputation of our fine country both at home and abroad. I think I can easily say, however, that all of us to a one support our troops, feel that they are the finest military personnel in the world, both in terms of courage, and in terms of training, equipment and ability. We want our men and women to stay safe and do a good job. do not archive -Kysh -- | 'Life begins at 120kias' - http://www.lapdragon.org/flying | | CBR-F4 streetbike - http://www.lapdragon.org/cbr | | 1968 Mustang fastback - http://www.lapdragon.org/mustang | | Got 'nix? - http://www.infrastructure.org/ | | KG6FOB - http://www.lapdragon.org/ham | | Give blood: Play Hockey! http://www.unixdragon.com/ |


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    Time: 11:41:02 PM PST US
    From: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
    Subject: main gear nuts
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com> On the RV-7, and the plans call for using an "MS21045-5 ALL METAL LOCK NUT" on the bolts that attach the main gear to the engine mount. Makes perfect sense, since I was always told not to use nylon self-locking nuts firewall-forward. Problem is, the kit didn't come with any of these all-metal nuts, and the kit came explicitly with AN365-524 nuts in their place (bag 918: "ENG/LG HW (6,7)"). I haven't spoken to Van's about this, but what's the concensus about this...use the nylock nuts or go with the all-metal lock nuts? I actually would have thought castellated nuts would be used here, but what do I know... Any advice? Thanks in advance, )_( Dan RV-7 N714D (canopy) http://www.rvproject.com




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