RV-List Digest Archive

Mon 04/07/03


Total Messages Posted: 47



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 06:44 AM - Re: Painting inside of cowl? (Shemp)
     2. 06:44 AM - Re: Electrical System Gremlin  (Ken Stribling)
     3. 06:56 AM - Re: New UPS GPS Navigator (Bill Dube)
     4. 07:18 AM - Re: Fw: Electrical System Gremlin  (Bill Dube)
     5. 07:35 AM - Re: SF Bay Area Airports  (Van Artsdalen, Scott)
     6. 07:36 AM - Re: Wayne Handley Seminar (Van Artsdalen, Scott)
     7. 07:57 AM - Van's Windscreen VHF Comm Antenna (jacklockamy@att.net)
     8. 08:10 AM - Van's Program/Superior Engines (John Helms)
     9. 08:54 AM - LED Position lights? (Bill Dube)
    10. 09:13 AM - Re: Van's Program/Superior Engines (Van Artsdalen, Scott)
    11. 09:28 AM - Nylocks (Wheeler North)
    12. 09:31 AM - Re: Van's Windscreen VHF Comm Antenna (Bob)
    13. 10:20 AM - Re: LED Position lights? (Bill VonDane)
    14. 10:44 AM - Re: Van's Program/Superior Engines (John Helms)
    15. 11:05 AM - Re: LED Position lights? (C. Rabaut)
    16. 12:57 PM - Re: Nylocks (Jim Sears)
    17. 01:12 PM - Re: Nylocks (Dan Checkoway)
    18. 01:30 PM - Savannah and Key West recommendations (Parker Thomas)
    19. 01:44 PM - UV protection...was Primer & Paint (Jim Duckett)
    20. 01:54 PM - Re: Savannah and Key West recommendations ()
    21. 02:19 PM - Re: LED Position lights? (Dave Bristol)
    22. 02:52 PM - SNF report (Brian Denk)
    23. 02:52 PM - Re: LED Position lights? (Tedd McHenry)
    24. 03:17 PM -  (Dean Pichon)
    25. 03:44 PM - S/F report (1st timer) (RGray67968@aol.com)
    26. 03:49 PM - Re:  (Eric Whiteside)
    27. 03:56 PM - Tail dragger-dragger (RGray67968@aol.com)
    28. 04:01 PM - Re: SNF report (Jim Norman)
    29. 04:32 PM - Re: Electrical System Gremlin  (Tom & Cathy Ervin)
    30. 04:32 PM - Re: web site links  (Patrick E. Moseley)
    31. 05:12 PM - Re: Chicago Mayor's office phone #-Meigs Field (Charlie & Tupper England)
    32. 05:12 PM - Re: Powersport Rotary (Tracy Crook)
    33. 05:12 PM - Re: taildragger dragger (Nels Hanson)
    34. 05:31 PM - Re: Van's Windscreen VHF Comm Antenna (Nels Hanson)
    35. 06:04 PM - Re: SNF report (Kyle Boatright)
    36. 06:06 PM - Re: SUN & FUN report (TwoFeathersRV6@aol.com)
    37. 06:15 PM - gascolator extension parts (Steve J Hurlbut)
    38. 06:15 PM - Re:  (Don Diehl)
    39. 06:23 PM - Re: Prop test results posted (LeastDrag93066@aol.com)
    40. 06:24 PM - Re: Re: taildragger dragger (Chopper)
    41. 06:46 PM - Hangar Space at Springbank (CYBW) (Terence Gannon)
    42. 06:57 PM - Re: Prop test results posted (Rhett Westerman)
    43. 07:09 PM - Re: Re: taildragger dragger (Randy Lervold)
    44. 08:19 PM - Re: Prop test results posted (Alex Peterson)
    45. 08:35 PM - Rudder (7 and 9) strobe (Karie Daniel)
    46. 08:47 PM - Re: Rudder (7 and 9) strobe (Kyle Boatright)
    47. 10:10 PM - Re: LED Position lights? (VFT@aol.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:44:01 AM PST US
    From: "Shemp" <shempdowling@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Painting inside of cowl?
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Shemp" <shempdowling@earthlink.net> Check in the RV-ator. There was an article 2 issues ago concerning this. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Norman" <jgnorman@tampabay.rr.com> Subject: RE: RV-List: Painting inside of cowl? > --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Norman" <jgnorman@tampabay.rr.com> > > Yep, you DO want to do it. Makes it MUCH easier to clean. > > NOTE... it doesn't have to be finished like the OUTSIDE of the cowl... so > don't worry about filing holes, bondo, etc, etc. BUT, prime it and then give > it a quick shot of your basic fuselage color (or basic white).... Then get > on with painting the rest of the plane. > > As others have mentioned... this little bit of work now will pay of in > spades later on. > > jim > tampa > > (Sun n Fun is great already... WOW are there some NICE RV's here!!!!) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Elsa & Henry > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV-List: Painting inside of cowl? > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Elsa & Henry" <elsa-henry@darlor-watch.com> > > What the heck for? > >


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    Time: 06:44:48 AM PST US
    From: "Ken Stribling" <ken@soundsuckers.com>
    Subject: Re: Electrical System Gremlin
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Ken Stribling" <ken@soundsuckers.com> Check your ground circuits ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom & Cathy Ervin" <tcervin@valkyrie.net> Subject: RV-List: Electrical System Gremlin > --> RV-List message posted by: "Tom & Cathy Ervin" <tcervin@valkyrie.net> > > Just finished up all the Electrics on my RV6-A in the Hanger (garage) out back and have a small Gremlin. Everything works including transmit and receiving on both Comm's. > Symptoms are as follows after turning on the Master: > 1) About a 15 Amp. discharge shown on the Amp. Gauge with only the Oil Pressure Light and BC Regulator Charge light activated? > 2) Everything works with no more discharge shown no matter how many things are brought online? > 3) Now it gets interesting........If I transmit on either radio the following occurs: > a) CHT & EXT Gauges dance like crazy! > b) Amp Gauge goes Nuts! > c) Flap & Trim Indicators leds dance! > d) Fuel gauges advance very slightly even though the wings and thus indicators are not hooked up? > The airport which is 3 miles away says I am transmitting crystal clear even from inside my garage with a belly antenna?!? > Any suggestions of where to start looking would be appreciated as I don't want to put the forward skin down till I get this fixed. > Tom in Ohio > >


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    Time: 06:56:10 AM PST US
    From: Bill Dube <bdube@boulder.nist.gov>
    Subject: Re: New UPS GPS Navigator
    --> RV-List message posted by: Bill Dube <bdube@boulder.nist.gov> At 02:15 PM 4/4/2003, you wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Norman" <nhunger@sprint.ca> > > > UPS Aviation technologies has finally announced their new GPS navigator, > > check it out at http://www.upsat.com/ > >$12,000 USD for a NAV/COM. What is the world coming to. There are plenty of >new cars cheaper than this. How many do they think they are going to sell? >How many home builders have that kind of money? Folks with deep pockets buy these nifty new toys and sell their "old" toys at a bargain. I can't afford this new stuff, but it allows me to get more for my money on the used market.


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    Time: 07:18:18 AM PST US
    From: Bill Dube <bdube@boulder.nist.gov>
    Subject: Re: Electrical System Gremlin
    --> RV-List message posted by: Bill Dube <bdube@boulder.nist.gov> > > Does anyone know a test that will show if it's the Gauge or >Shunt? The shunt has a "rating". It may very well be listed on the side or in the literature that came with the unit. There are all kinds, but very often large shunts put out 50 mV at their maximum current rating. For example, a 100 amp, 50 mV shunt will show 50 mV (0.05 volts) when 100 amps are flowing through it. This means that this shunt has 0.5 mOhm (0.0005 Ohms) of resistance. When 50 amps are flowing, you would expect to see 25 mV, and so on If you put a known current through the shunt, you should be able determine if it is working correctly by measuring the voltage across it. It's important that the shunt be wired correctly. There are two large terminals, at the ends, for the load connections, and there are two tiny terminals, nearer to the center, for the meter connections. You can't switch these around or the meter won't read correctly. You need to use all the supplied washers, nuts, and screws when making the load connections to ensure a 100% proper operation.


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    Time: 07:35:20 AM PST US
    From: "Van Artsdalen, Scott" <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
    Subject: SF Bay Area Airports
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen, Scott" <svanarts@unionsafe.com> How long ago was that?? That would depend on what part of Fremont. The Niles district where I lived was only 15 min drive to Hayward. Now if you lived down on the border of Milpitas or maybe the Irvington district it *might* be quicker but I doubt it being as RHV is in southish San Jose. Traffic patterns change almost by the month in the Bay Area. *Actually* PAO might be quicker than either one. -- Scott VanArtsdalen Network Manager Union Safe Deposit Bank 209-946-5116 -----Original Message----- From: Terry Williams [mailto:7ecapilot@attbi.com] Subject: Re: RV-List: SF Bay Area Airports --> RV-List message posted by: Terry Williams <7ecapilot@attbi.com> O.K. I have to weigh in on this a bit. I used to live in Fremont and flew out of Reid-Hillview. I seem to recall that takes just about as long to drive from Fremont to Hayward as it did to get to RHV. So, I don't necessarily buy that Hayward is easier or faster to get to. RHV is well outside of the SF Class B and just outside of the SJC Class C. HWD is under both the SF Class B and the OAK Class C. If your xpndr is wacked you can't get in to HWD. LVK is east of Fremont about a 20 mins by car. It has quite a bit of transient space and is very close to the freeway (I-580). It has an ILS and all amenities, including rental cars. LVK is well outside of SF Class C airspace. There is a BART station in Dublin, which is about 3 miles west on the freeway. All in all, using Bay Approach is no problem for any of the SFBA airports (OAK Center for LVK flight following), but why bother if you just need a convenient airport. Livermore isn't really any further away and I think it costs a little less (don't know what fees there might be). I think that LVK is just as convenient and any others in the SFBA. Maybe even a little more friendly. ;) Besides, everything in the SFBA is 45 minutes away by car. : o BTW... I live in Livermore now and my house is about 3/4 of mile from the approach end of 25R. Rock your wings on final and I'll wave back. Please, just keep your RPMs low for the sensitive ears of those who don't appreciate our passion. tw On Sunday, March 30, 2003, at 01:12 PM, JusCash@aol.com wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: JusCash@aol.com > > Hayward would be a better choice for Fremont. Second choice is Reid > Hillview > in San Jose. Hayward has several procedures for IFR arrivals and > departures. > I am located in Hanger J1 in the West Tee's. Drop by and say hello. > > Cash Copeland > RV6 N46FC > Hayward, Ca > >> Time: 08:36:40 PM PST US >> From: "Michael J. Robbins" <michael.j.robbins@verizon.net> >> Subject: RV-List: SF Bay Area Airports >> >> --> RV-List message posted by: "Michael J. Robbins" < >> michael.j.robbins@verizon.net> >> >> To those of you in the bay area, I'm planning on visiting a friend in >> Fremont and it looks like San Jose Muni is the closest airport. Is it >> friendly to us little guys? Last time I flew out of SJC was in 1969. >> I >> know things have changed a lot. I have the option of filing IFR if >> necessary. I'm planning on arriving next Saturday or Sunday. >> >> Mike Robbins >> RV-8 N88MJ 185 hours >> Seattle area >> >> do not archive >> > > > _- > ====================================================================== > _- > ====================================================================== > _- > ====================================================================== > _- > ====================================================================== > >


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    Time: 07:36:02 AM PST US
    From: "Van Artsdalen, Scott" <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
    Subject: Wayne Handley Seminar
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen, Scott" <svanarts@unionsafe.com> A lurker no more! Gotcha' Ace! -- Scott VanArtsdalen Network Manager Union Safe Deposit Bank 209-946-5116 -----Original Message----- From: ACE [mailto:ace_av8r@pacbell.net] Subject: RV-List: Wayne Handley Seminar --> RV-List message posted by: ACE <ace_av8r@pacbell.net> I would like to let everyone know that April 26-27 EAA Chapter 90 in Oakdale Ca. (O27) is hosting a stall spin seminar. The seminar is presented by the inverted flat spin world record holder Wayne Handley. This event is open to the public. The price for the seminar is $30.00 which includes lunch. There are a few slots open for a flight with Wayne in his Extra 300L, anyone interested in attending or scheduling a flight can visit www.eaa90.org or contact Keith Braun at 209.605.4700


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    Time: 07:57:54 AM PST US
    From: jacklockamy@att.net
    Subject: Van's Windscreen VHF Comm Antenna
    --> RV-List message posted by: jacklockamy@att.net Anyone have any experience....good or bad.... with the very inexpensive ($7) VHF Comm Antenna that Van's sells which is mounted on the canopy/windscreen? -- Jack Lockamy Camarillo, CA. RV-7A N174JL reserved


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    Time: 08:10:47 AM PST US
    From: "John Helms" <jhelms@i1.net>
    Subject: Van's Program/Superior Engines
    --> RV-List message posted by: "John Helms" <jhelms@i1.net> On my way to SnF, I stopped in ATL and spoke with the underwriter for the Van's Program. One of the things that we talked about is something that a lot of you have been waiting to hear. The VanGuard Program can now accept RV's with XP-360 engines from Superior, and those that are built by Aerosport Power. You may all breath a sigh of relief.... I know I will. I have been pushing for that for quite some time. This is the first time they've specifically approved engines other than Lycomings for the program. On a similar note, I also had the opportunity to talk with the underwriter that does the EAA's program the other day. Their program is available to any agent as long as you're a current EAA member, by the way. Their converted automobile engine list is interesting with the major difference is the inclusion of Suburu FWF packages. But they'll also do Volkswagon FWF packages done by Great Plains, Aero-Conversions, and Revmaster; Mazda FWF by Powersports. Ford, GMC, Chrysler all are specifically prohibited by them. The EAA's program will also do Hirth two strokes, HKS four strokes, LOM four stroke, PZL/Franklin Four stroke, Rotax two and four stroke, and Jabiru Four strokes. John "JT" Helms Branch Manager NationAir Insurance Agency Pleasure and Business Branch


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    Time: 08:54:32 AM PST US
    From: Bill Dube <bdube@boulder.nist.gov>
    Subject: LED Position lights?
    --> RV-List message posted by: Bill Dube <bdube@boulder.nist.gov> Has anyone tried using high-brightness LEDs for position lights? They use them for traffic lights, car tail lights, car brake lights, and truck clearance lights these days. They are MUCH more reliable than filament type lights and have the same (or greater) brightness. They also use considerably less power to produce the same light output. With the high price of Whelen and Grimes units, why not use high-brightness LED arrays for position lights instead?


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    Time: 09:13:52 AM PST US
    From: "Van Artsdalen, Scott" <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
    Subject: Van's Program/Superior Engines
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen, Scott" <svanarts@unionsafe.com> Great! So how do I update my policy to show the AeroSport engine that I want to install? -- Scott VanArtsdalen Network Manager Union Safe Deposit Bank 209-946-5116 -----Original Message----- From: John Helms [mailto:jhelms@i1.net] Subject: RV-List: Van's Program/Superior Engines --> RV-List message posted by: "John Helms" <jhelms@i1.net> On my way to SnF, I stopped in ATL and spoke with the underwriter for the Van's Program. One of the things that we talked about is something that a lot of you have been waiting to hear. The VanGuard Program can now accept RV's with XP-360 engines from Superior, and those that are built by Aerosport Power. You may all breath a sigh of relief.... I know I will. I have been pushing for that for quite some time. This is the first time they've specifically approved engines other than Lycomings for the program. On a similar note, I also had the opportunity to talk with the underwriter that does the EAA's program the other day. Their program is available to any agent as long as you're a current EAA member, by the way. Their converted automobile engine list is interesting with the major difference is the inclusion of Suburu FWF packages. But they'll also do Volkswagon FWF packages done by Great Plains, Aero-Conversions, and Revmaster; Mazda FWF by Powersports. Ford, GMC, Chrysler all are specifically prohibited by them. The EAA's program will also do Hirth two strokes, HKS four strokes, LOM four stroke, PZL/Franklin Four stroke, Rotax two and four stroke, and Jabiru Four strokes. John "JT" Helms Branch Manager NationAir Insurance Agency Pleasure and Business Branch


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    Time: 09:28:24 AM PST US
    From: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us>
    Subject: Nylocks
    --> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us> The issue of nylocks fwd of firewall wasn't what I was relly addressing, I was addressing self locking devices on a fastener that can rotate, such as a clevis. I have nylocks all over my engine compartment. These are rating to 350deg. I even used some on the case joint fasteners, on top of internal star washers. Never had a problem with any of them. I have a RV6 with the aux gear on the correct end, and it uses a castled faster with cotter pin. So I don't really know how the trainer gear version is assembled. (That oughta stir the pot ;{) do not archive


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    Time: 09:31:16 AM PST US
    From: Bob <panamared2@brier.net>
    Subject: Re: Van's Windscreen VHF Comm Antenna
    --> RV-List message posted by: Bob <panamared2@brier.net> I used it for a short period. Did not get much range and could not talk below to tower or other A/C directly below me. On the ramp I had to turn the A/C towards the tower to get reception. I put a whip antenna on the bottom of the fuselage, and things are a lot better. I use a Val Com radio. I left the foil antenna on windscreen, I plan on using it for a hand held, if I ever get one. Advice, try it, if it doesn't work you are only out $7.00. Bob At 02:56 PM 4/7/03 +0000, jacklockamy@att.net wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: jacklockamy@att.net > >Anyone have any experience....good or bad.... with the very inexpensive >($7) VHF Comm Antenna that Van's sells which is mounted on the >canopy/windscreen? >-- >Jack Lockamy >Camarillo, CA. >RV-7A N174JL reserved


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    Time: 10:20:40 AM PST US
    From: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com>
    Subject: Re: LED Position lights?
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com> Bill... I am working on expanding my product line to include a Landing Light Flasher (almost ready to ship), LED Position Lights, and a low(er) cost Strobe Lights solution... I will let you all know when I have a solution for LED Position Lights... -Bill VonDane www.vondane.com www.creativair.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Dube" <bdube@boulder.nist.gov> Subject: RV-List: LED Position lights? --> RV-List message posted by: Bill Dube <bdube@boulder.nist.gov> Has anyone tried using high-brightness LEDs for position lights? They use them for traffic lights, car tail lights, car brake lights, and truck clearance lights these days. They are MUCH more reliable than filament type lights and have the same (or greater) brightness. They also use considerably less power to produce the same light output. With the high price of Whelen and Grimes units, why not use high-brightness LED arrays for position lights instead?


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    Time: 10:44:59 AM PST US
    From: "John Helms" <jhelms@i1.net>
    Subject: Re: Van's Program/Superior Engines
    --> RV-List message posted by: "John Helms" <jhelms@i1.net> No need to... They don't list the engine on the policy (neither as a builders risk, nor when it's flyable.) JT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Van Artsdalen, Scott" <svanarts@unionsafe.com> Subject: RE: RV-List: Van's Program/Superior Engines --> RV-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen, Scott" <svanarts@unionsafe.com> Great! So how do I update my policy to show the AeroSport engine that I want to install? -- Scott VanArtsdalen Network Manager Union Safe Deposit Bank 209-946-5116 -----Original Message----- From: John Helms [mailto:jhelms@i1.net] Subject: RV-List: Van's Program/Superior Engines --> RV-List message posted by: "John Helms" <jhelms@i1.net> On my way to SnF, I stopped in ATL and spoke with the underwriter for the Van's Program. One of the things that we talked about is something that a lot of you have been waiting to hear. The VanGuard Program can now accept RV's with XP-360 engines from Superior, and those that are built by Aerosport Power. You may all breath a sigh of relief.... I know I will. I have been pushing for that for quite some time. This is the first time they've specifically approved engines other than Lycomings for the program. On a similar note, I also had the opportunity to talk with the underwriter that does the EAA's program the other day. Their program is available to any agent as long as you're a current EAA member, by the way. Their converted automobile engine list is interesting with the major difference is the inclusion of Suburu FWF packages. But they'll also do Volkswagon FWF packages done by Great Plains, Aero-Conversions, and Revmaster; Mazda FWF by Powersports. Ford, GMC, Chrysler all are specifically prohibited by them. The EAA's program will also do Hirth two strokes, HKS four strokes, LOM four stroke, PZL/Franklin Four stroke, Rotax two and four stroke, and Jabiru Four strokes. John "JT" Helms Branch Manager NationAir Insurance Agency Pleasure and Business Branch


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    Time: 11:05:02 AM PST US
    From: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
    Subject: Re: LED Position lights?
    --> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com> Look forward to seeing that info Bill. Thanks, Chuck do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill VonDane <bill@vondane.com> Subject: Re: RV-List: LED Position lights? > --> RV-List message posted by: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com> > > Bill... > > I am working on expanding my product line to include a Landing Light Flasher > (almost ready to ship), LED Position Lights, and a low(er) cost Strobe > Lights solution... I will let you all know when I have a solution for LED > Position Lights... > > -Bill VonDane > www.vondane.com > www.creativair.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Dube" <bdube@boulder.nist.gov> > To: <rv-list@matronics.com> > Subject: RV-List: LED Position lights? > > > --> RV-List message posted by: Bill Dube <bdube@boulder.nist.gov> > > Has anyone tried using high-brightness LEDs for position lights? > > They use them for traffic lights, car tail lights, car brake lights, and > truck clearance lights these days. They are MUCH more reliable than > filament type lights and have the same (or greater) brightness. They also > use considerably less power to produce the same light output. With the high > price of Whelen and Grimes units, why not use high-brightness LED arrays > for position lights instead? > >


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    Time: 12:57:11 PM PST US
    From: "Jim Sears" <sears@searnet.com>
    Subject: Re: Nylocks
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Sears" <sears@searnet.com> > The issue of nylocks fwd of firewall wasn't what I was relly addressing, I > was addressing self locking devices on a fastener that can rotate, such as > a clevis. > > I have nylocks all over my engine compartment. These are rating to > 350deg. I even used some on the case joint fasteners, on top of internal > star washers. Never had a problem with any of them. > > I have a RV6 with the aux gear on the correct end, and it uses a castled > faster with cotter pin. So I don't really know how the trainer gear version > is assembled. (That oughta stir the pot ;{) When I saw the above, and because I've no idea who sent the original question, I thought I may have made the wrong assumption and thought my discussion about heat and nylocks was off base; so, I went back and looked at the note I sent. I wasn't off base on that because I also went to my own drawings and saw that the discussion was about the nut on the bolt at the top of the gear that's so close to the exhaust, as I'd originally assumed it was. With that, I'll stick to my guns on the nylock nut. Just as Wheeler says, it can take a lot of heat. I see the drawings indication for a steel locking nut as one more case of where things in the drawings don't quite match the hardware in the bags. :-) Below is the question I was refering to with my answer. > Problem is, the kit didn't come with any of these all-metal nuts, and the > kit came explicitly with AN365-524 nuts in their place (bag 918: > "ENG/LG HW > (6,7)"). > Anway, to answer Wheeler's question about the nose gear, it has a bolt with a nylock. So did my Grumman-American Cheetah. Now, that may shock some of us on the list. However, the bearings do not ride on the bolt. They ride on a cylinder made just for that purpose. In the Cheetah, the cylinder had a notch cut in it to make it unable to spin. Not so for the RVs. If the bolt is not tightened all the way down as tight as it should be, the cylinders can actually spin in the assembly. Ask me how I know. :-( When tightened to proper torque, the cylinders don't spin because the rubber on the bearings hold them in place. Still, I wonder, sometimes. There should be some kind of locking device on that cylinder to prevent its spinning. Jim Sears in KY RV-6A N198JS EAA Tech Counselor


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    Time: 01:12:35 PM PST US
    From: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
    Subject: Re: Nylocks
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com> I was the one who sent the original question...here's my decision, for what it's worth... Even though I rest fairly assured that the AN365 nylock nut would be absolutely fine, I'm going with the MS21045-5 all-metal lock nut instead. See, what it comes down to is that the nut on the PLANS is the all-metal lock nut, not a nylock nut. I'm just picturing the DAR going over the engine compartment with a fine-toothed comb and pointing out: "Hey, you have a nylock nut in the engine compartment...that really ought to be an all-metal nut." It's not as if I can say, "Well, I followed the plans, and the plans call for an AN365 nut," to at least justify my decision. The PLANS call for the all-metal nut. It's just that Van's little hardware bag came with the AN365. Weird. I'm ordering a bunch of MS21045 nuts to have around for the firewall forward process. I respect everybody's opinion and thanks to those who weighed in. As I said, I'm sure the AN365 would be fine, but I'm going with what's on the plans, what I believe a good DAR would demand, and what I know is the safer option (even if it's only marginally safer!). )_( Dan RV-7 N714D (finish) http://www.rvproject.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Sears" <sears@searnet.com> Subject: Re: RV-List: Nylocks > --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Sears" <sears@searnet.com> > > > The issue of nylocks fwd of firewall wasn't what I was relly addressing, I > > was addressing self locking devices on a fastener that can rotate, such as > > a clevis. > > > > I have nylocks all over my engine compartment. These are rating to > > 350deg. I even used some on the case joint fasteners, on top of internal > > star washers. Never had a problem with any of them. > > > > I have a RV6 with the aux gear on the correct end, and it uses a castled > > faster with cotter pin. So I don't really know how the trainer gear > version > > is assembled. (That oughta stir the pot ;{) > > When I saw the above, and because I've no idea who sent the original > question, I thought I may have made the wrong assumption and thought my > discussion about heat and nylocks was off base; so, I went back and looked > at the note I sent. I wasn't off base on that because I also went to my own > drawings and saw that the discussion was about the nut on the bolt at the > top of the gear that's so close to the exhaust, as I'd originally assumed it > was. With that, I'll stick to my guns on the nylock nut. Just as Wheeler > says, it can take a lot of heat. I see the drawings indication for a steel > locking nut as one more case of where things in the drawings don't quite > match the hardware in the bags. :-) Below is the question I was refering > to with my answer. > > > Problem is, the kit didn't come with any of these all-metal nuts, and the > > kit came explicitly with AN365-524 nuts in their place (bag 918: > > "ENG/LG HW > > (6,7)"). > > > > Anway, to answer Wheeler's question about the nose gear, it has a bolt with > a nylock. So did my Grumman-American Cheetah. Now, that may shock some of > us on the list. However, the bearings do not ride on the bolt. They ride > on a cylinder made just for that purpose. In the Cheetah, the cylinder had > a notch cut in it to make it unable to spin. Not so for the RVs. If the > bolt is not tightened all the way down as tight as it should be, the > cylinders can actually spin in the assembly. Ask me how I know. :-( When > tightened to proper torque, the cylinders don't spin because the rubber on > the bearings hold them in place. Still, I wonder, sometimes. There should > be some kind of locking device on that cylinder to prevent its spinning. > > Jim Sears in KY > RV-6A N198JS > EAA Tech Counselor > >


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    Time: 01:30:03 PM PST US
    From: "Parker Thomas" <me@parkerthomas.com>
    Subject: Savannah and Key West recommendations
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Parker Thomas" <me@parkerthomas.com> Hi to all the listers - Anyone in the Savannah or Key West area that might have some suggestions about where to stay and what to see? Turns out I have a few days free and want take my 8 somewhere warm. Never been either place. Many thanks, Parker Thomas me@parkerthomas.com


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    Time: 01:44:20 PM PST US
    From: Jim Duckett <perfeng@3rivers.net>
    Subject: UV protection...was Primer & Paint
    --> RV-List message posted by: Jim Duckett <perfeng@3rivers.net> Chris, The UV additives in paints and coatings are used to reduce the degradation of the coating caused by exposure to the sun. They have nothing to due with reducing (or increasing) the surface absorption temp. J.D.


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    Time: 01:54:20 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Savannah and Key West recommendations
    From: <cammie@sunvalley.net>
    --> RV-List message posted by: <cammie@sunvalley.net> I took a trip from Dover Delaware to Key West a few years ago. I really enjoyed Charleston (eat at Sticky Fingers), and Pompano Beach. Spent a few days in Marathon but that town was a little too wild for my taste. Key West is fun, but look out for the wire stretching to the sky down there.- > > Anyone in the Savannah or Key West area that might have some suggestions > about where to stay and what to see? Turns out I have a few days free > and want take my 8 somewhere warm. Never been either place.


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    Time: 02:19:25 PM PST US
    From: Dave Bristol <bj034@lafn.org>
    Subject: Re: LED Position lights?
    --> RV-List message posted by: Dave Bristol <bj034@lafn.org> The problem with LED's is that they are very directional and you may find it difficult to to get the legal brightness in the full 180 deg vertical arc and the 90 deg horizontal arc. If you can work out that problem I think LED's would be a great replacement. Dave RV6 So Cal EAA Tech. Counselor Bill Dube wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: Bill Dube <bdube@boulder.nist.gov> > > Has anyone tried using high-brightness LEDs for position lights? > > They use them for traffic lights, car tail lights, car brake lights, and > truck clearance lights these days. They are MUCH more reliable than > filament type lights and have the same (or greater) brightness. They also > use considerably less power to produce the same light output. With the high > price of Whelen and Grimes units, why not use high-brightness LED arrays > for position lights instead? >


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    Time: 02:52:11 PM PST US
    From: "Brian Denk" <akroguy@hotmail.com>
    Subject: SNF report
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Denk" <akroguy@hotmail.com> Howdy folks, I'm still in Tampa, but spent a day and a half at the show. Not quite as busy as I had expected, this being my first trip to SNF. I didn't fly my -8 to the show, but left it at Raytheon FBO at Tampa international. My wife and son flew in via airlines and it was just easier to drive over to Lakeland after picking them up. My flight from New Mexico to Tampa was absolutely awesome...smooth...and fast! I never saw GPS cruise ground speeds under 210mph the entire way. Gotta love those westerlies. I met up with Bernie Kerr for lunch and didn't see many other folks that I recognize. Oh, there was Colonel Stu doing his usual fabulous job of leading a flight of RV's in a most elegant manner overhead numerous times. For a show of this size, I was surprised to see relatively few RV's on the line at any given time. I felt that the Notam shutting down the field for most of the afternoon for the airshow really limited access to and from the field. I'm glad I just drove and was able to leave when the heat and humidity started to get to me. I'm an arid climate dude...humidity kills me. I got to meet "Van the man" in person...for the first time ever! I took a few pics with him, along with my son, Skyler. Little does my boy know just how much this quiet man has meant to his daddy. My trip back home begins tomorrow morning. Wx looks really gnarly (surfer talk) along the top of Florida. Hope it's gone by early am. Folks, keep bangin' the rivets. You have no idea just how much fun you have in store for you! Think about it...halfway across the USA in the time it takes to put in a day's work. It'll just boggle your mind, lads. Brian Denk RV8 N94BD 325 hrs...and counting.


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    Time: 02:52:24 PM PST US
    From: Tedd McHenry <tedd@vansairforce.org>
    Subject: Re: LED Position lights?
    --> RV-List message posted by: Tedd McHenry <tedd@vansairforce.org> > The problem with LED's is that they are very directional and you may find it > difficult to to get the legal brightness in the full 180 deg vertical arc and > the 90 deg horizontal arc. Can't this problem be overcome by mounting three sets of each light, one on a forward-facing surface, one on a lataral-facing surface, and one on an aft-facing surface? Not ideal, perhaps, but not overly difficult, either. Do the regs specify a distance at which the visibility is measured (i.e. would "blind spots" near the airplane be acceptable)? Tedd McHenry Surrey, BC -6 wings


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    Time: 03:17:44 PM PST US
    From: "Dean Pichon" <DeanPichon@msn.com>
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Dean Pichon" <DeanPichon@msn.com> Hi All, > > I'm trying to locate a source to buy a tow bar that I can use to make it > easier for me to push/pull my -4 in/out of the hanger. I've seen units > advertised to work with RV's, but have not been able to find anything on the > internet. Any leads would be most appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Dean Pichon


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    Time: 03:44:54 PM PST US
    From: RGray67968@aol.com
    Subject: S/F report (1st timer)
    --> RV-List message posted by: RGray67968@aol.com Folks, DELETE if not interested!! A copy of my S/F trip report sent to the Mid Atlantic Group: (long - read at your own risk and do not archive) Just got back from my 1st ever Sun & Fun......all I can say is WOW....WOW...&....WOW!!! Wheels up from PKB (Parkersburg, W.VA.) at 6:20am Wednesday for an inflight rendezvous with Bill Flaherty (Popeye) (VVS, Connellsville) over Summersville, W. VA.. Flipped to Button 1 after takeoff and had Popeye and his passenger (Bob) on the radio.....the start of this GREAT trip!! I flew Popeye's wing (RV8) just about all the way down....we averaged about 160kts. Our planned 1st stop was Waycross, Georgia but Popeye was getting a little low on fuel so we stopped at Vidalia (VDL) instead for fuel at 2.79/gal - ouch. After a 2 ship low approach on departure (Popeye's idea) we turned towards LAL. Enroute wx was 'perfect' to say the least, not=20a bump to be found! To really prep us for the palm trees we put on some Bob Marley as we entered Florida - the 25XL's are awesome - 'No Woman No Cry' -=20I can still hear the music!!! We saw our 1st clouds just after the Florida swamps (Okkkkeee something or other) about 50 miles north of LAL. I called Popeye and told him I just switched tanks - he said to wait next time unless I like alligators - grin. Arrival was a non event per the posted procedures (thanks to Eyeball/Zack for the pre brief) and we were on the ground at about high noon. Total flight down was about 4.5 hours in the air.....39 gallons of fuel for me (including taxi and flybys). I parked in 'Homebuilt' and Popeye parked in 'Homebuilt Camping'. After tiedown we hooked up (cell phone) and started enjoying the BEAUTIFUL Florida weather. Arriving back at the campsite we ran into Eyeball and Joe Rose who were camped right next to us!! They invited us to dinner at the Outback Steakhouse. About 8 RV'ers including Mudfoot and a few others.....a swell time! Thanks to Tom for the use of his van - and to Mudfoot (the driver) for a nice tour of some of the local industrial parks (you had to be there)! After a long day we settled in.....real glad I brought my air mattress.....almost like being at home. My old sneakers needed some odor eaters so I left them outside the tent. After smelling my camping partners sneaks I didn't feel too bad - we both bit the bullet and brought all the 'smellies' inside so we didn't have wet (morning dew) sneaks each day - whooeee, we are brave souls : ). The next morning we were up for showers......nice and clean with HOT HOT water. Off to the homebuilt area to wipe the dew off the 6 (a daily occurrence for me). LOTS and LOTS of RV's.....too many to count! Met a lot of RV'ers over the next few days - some from the Internet and some we already knew. Zack and Ralph pulled in and we had a chat with them as well as Rich Ziedman (Z-Man) and many others. TEAM RV was there in numbers and performed flawlessly at about 11:30 each day along with Stu McCurdy (FFI) and Falcon Flight with Mark Fredrick in his new Rocket. All the airplane talk ceased as the they flew over the field - about 3 to 5 passes each day. They were always 'in'... close and personal. We also ran into many members from the Tennessee gang (Sam Buchanon HIMSELF was there along with the Millsap family and others). We spent the next few days looking at airplanes in the mornings and watching the airshows in the afternoons. The Saturday morning Hot air balloon launch was just spectacular! About 40 balloons doing a "Mass Air Ascent" - this was awesome. Saturday night was the night air show - the opening act (a four ship aerobatic act) was good as was the glider performance. Eyeball and Joe bailed out Saturday morning due to wx - sorry to see them go as we had quite a few laughs with them and Yergen (spelling??) the night before at Margaritaville (just pop for me : )). Oh yea, a note was left in my plane inviting us to a Brat Cookout - 'Meet at Vans tent at 5'. So we did, Dana Overall from Kentucky sent out the invite. We all met up and walked to his campsite. Basically you could have just followed you nose. Enough Brats for 2 each and beverages as well. Dana wouldn't take a dime - his way of paying back for all the help he'd received while working on his RV7 - it was delicious to say the least!! These are the kind of folks you run into in the RV world! Had been checking the wx all week. Was hard to believe that all kinds of activity was taking place 'up north' when we were seeing temps in the high 80's with blue skies all week. Looked like we had an 'opening' Sunday morning to head for home. After a 'motorcycle' escort (one on each wing) from the Homebuilt area to Homebuilt camping we started packing our gear. I finally got Gary's (my passenger) sleeping bag in the plane (you've NEVER seen ANYTHING like it - it was HUGE) and we were ready to go. A long taxi followed by a longer wait to depart and we off as a two ship. The RV used a little more runway than I'm used to with the load and Florida heat but we still gained altitude at a rapid pace. A couple of high wings were in front of us.....nothing to do but blow by so we passed 'em like they were standing still - well clear on the right. I could see them looking over 'wishing' they were had RV's - grin. At about 4500' we were on top of the puffy white clouds as close to heaven as you can get. But, that didn't last long. As forecast, we ran into some nasty stuff near Augusta, Georgia. A call to flightwatch confirmed our decision to divert to Macon then up towards Daniels. We had to drop down to about 1200' AGL to stay below the ceiling that had moved in while dodging the rain cells with our wood props. Popeye gave a quick reminder to keep an eye out for towers - nothing showing on the GPS but you never know. We flew from airport to airport leaving ourselves an 'out' as we neared Daniels Mun. airport. Circling the field we could see the runway was wet.....we landing on runway=205 and taxied to the ramp. Rob (the ramp guy) said we just missed a 3" downpour. Some other folks had just landing (spam can) and were deciding which movie to see as they were going to have to spend the night. We got fuel at 2.99/gal after the lady behind the counter wouldn't budge on the price.....then checked the computer for wx. Looked like more of the same for about 60 miles then a clear shot to PKB and VVS. Departed on runway 11 after the wind had shifted and again we were dodging the cells as best we could. Real nice to travel with another airplane on trips like this.....in good and marginal weather. We danced around in the good stuff and stuck close together in the marginal. We could 'see the light' between a couple of cells and headed for it with an airport below (safe haven) and before we knew it....the sun came out and the sky was again clear and blue a sigh of relief from my 'new guy' passenger. We climbed to about 6500' to take advantage of the winds and to get over the mountains. Bob (Popeye's passenger) was still trying to read the sectional to find out where we were (we got plenty of 'mileage' out of that). We had a nice respectable cruise of about 165 to 175 knots for the rest of the trip. Popeye and I separated at Summersville where we had met up 5 days before. I'll repeat my earlier statement - GREAT to travel with another airplane - especially FRIENDS in an RV!! Safety is paramount and it's very comforting to know you have a wingman in the event of a mechanical problem, wx related problem, or to just enjoy the blue skies while shooting photos of one another. A little friendly ribbing on the trip never hurt anyone either=20- big grin!! Sun and Fun was as good as everyone had told me it would be....no less!! The volunteers really make it happen - hats off to them for ALL their HARD work!! As they say...Osh Kosh is big business.....Sun and Fun is 'Family'. I'll be going back again next year......as if you didn't know : ). Sun and Fun is AWESOME!!! To fly there in the plane I built in my basement was the icing on the cake!! As a sidebar - Popeye and I hope to meet up with Eyeball and Mudfoot in the future for some formation practice. We're looking at a halfway point to meet - thanks for offering to help us out guys!! Oh yea - I weighed=A0 all my stuff and it came out to 90.5 pounds of luggage/tent/chairs/tools/emer. kit/tie downs etc. - WOW - I figure with my passengers luggage (and the sleeping bag) we had about 125 in the back - I put the tools up front behind my legs. These airplanes are really great! See ya' at the next WAM!! Rick (Buckeye) RV6 in Ohio at the Buffalo Farm Where were the 3 C's and JP??? (and the rest of the gang??)- hey - we missed you guys big time!!! Bill Flaherty - Hey Popeye, thanks for dragging this new guy along with you!!


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    Time: 03:49:47 PM PST US
    From: "Eric Whiteside" <erwhites@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: RE:
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Eric Whiteside" <erwhites@bellsouth.net> Dean, I have a home made one that works fine. Can be built with 2 six/eight inch lawn mower wheels, threaded rod to make an axle for the wheels, a couple of six inch carriage bolts (slip under the tail wheel from the side) and a 5 foot length of 1 inch steel square tube from your local building supplies store. Mine took a little welding, but there may be a way to do it without. If this is hard to visualize, drop me a note and I will describe further. I have also heard of a commercial product with the name Taildragger Dragger. Don't know who makes it. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dean Pichon Subject: --> RV-List message posted by: "Dean Pichon" <DeanPichon@msn.com> Hi All, > > I'm trying to locate a source to buy a tow bar that I can use to make > it > easier for me to push/pull my -4 in/out of the hanger. I've seen units > advertised to work with RV's, but have not been able to find anything on the > internet. Any leads would be most appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Dean Pichon advertising on the Matronics Forums. Share: Share photos & files with other List members.


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    Time: 03:56:00 PM PST US
    From: RGray67968@aol.com
    Subject: Tail dragger-dragger
    --> RV-List message posted by: RGray67968@aol.com Dean, Just use the one ACS (or others) sell for the Cessna 150. Get the 'deluxe' model with the spring. It fits right over the tail wheel bolt - made to fit right out of the box. See Sams RV Journal for photos. Rick Gray in Ohio at the Buffalo Farm


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    Time: 04:01:47 PM PST US
    From: "Jim Norman" <jgnorman@tampabay.rr.com>
    Subject: SNF report
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Norman" <jgnorman@tampabay.rr.com> The show was MUCH better attended Wednesday through Friday... but even on Friday morning there were a lot of people leaving because of the weather up north (the weather here was perfect all week). By Thursday evening, there were approx 130 RVs on the line, and then more in the camping areas. More than you could look at in a day. There were many incredibly nice RV's. At Van's banquet last night, they said that they were told that there were more than 150 RV's here. The Wednesday through Tuesday schedule made many people leave by the weekend. I live only 17.3 miles away, and I brought my plane home this am. My hangar mate took his 6 home on Friday. When I left, there were only 21 RV's left... scattered over an area that previously was PACKED with RV's. If they keep this format, you need to be here the first few days. There were a LOT more people during the first few days as well... today, a lot fewer people and lots of room to walk around with the vendors. jim Tampa Razzmatazz... RV-6A -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Brian Denk Subject: RV-List: SNF report --> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Denk" <akroguy@hotmail.com> Howdy folks, I'm still in Tampa, but spent a day and a half at the show. Not quite as busy as I had expected, this being my first trip to SNF. I didn't fly my -8 to the show, but left it at Raytheon FBO at Tampa international. My wife and son flew in via airlines and it was just easier to drive over to Lakeland after picking them up. My flight from New Mexico to Tampa was absolutely awesome...smooth...and fast! I never saw GPS cruise ground speeds under 210mph the entire way. Gotta love those westerlies. I met up with Bernie Kerr for lunch and didn't see many other folks that I recognize. Oh, there was Colonel Stu doing his usual fabulous job of leading a flight of RV's in a most elegant manner overhead numerous times. For a show of this size, I was surprised to see relatively few RV's on the line at any given time. I felt that the Notam shutting down the field for most of the afternoon for the airshow really limited access to and from the field. I'm glad I just drove and was able to leave when the heat and humidity started to get to me. I'm an arid climate dude...humidity kills me. I got to meet "Van the man" in person...for the first time ever! I took a few pics with him, along with my son, Skyler. Little does my boy know just how much this quiet man has meant to his daddy. My trip back home begins tomorrow morning. Wx looks really gnarly (surfer talk) along the top of Florida. Hope it's gone by early am. Folks, keep bangin' the rivets. You have no idea just how much fun you have in store for you! Think about it...halfway across the USA in the time it takes to put in a day's work. It'll just boggle your mind, lads. Brian Denk RV8 N94BD 325 hrs...and counting.


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    Time: 04:32:05 PM PST US
    From: "Tom & Cathy Ervin" <tcervin@valkyrie.net>
    Subject: Re: Electrical System Gremlin
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Tom & Cathy Ervin" <tcervin@valkyrie.net> Ken, It turned out to be a defective Amp. Gauge from Van's. I am in the process of getting all new digital instruments from Aerospace Logic in Canada. After installing a panel full of Van's Gauges and several off list notes from other users indicating more problems: 1) Tach & Sender 2) Manifold Pressure & Sender Gauges are also failing for many builders... they are TOAST. I will be painting this summer and flying this fall and don't want to messing with defective gauges from here on out. Thanks for everyone's input. Tom in Ohio ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Stribling" <ken@soundsuckers.com> Subject: Re: RV-List: Electrical System Gremlin > --> RV-List message posted by: "Ken Stribling" <ken@soundsuckers.com> > > Check your ground circuits > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom & Cathy Ervin" <tcervin@valkyrie.net> > To: <aeroelectric-list@matronics.com> > Subject: RV-List: Electrical System Gremlin > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Tom & Cathy Ervin" <tcervin@valkyrie.net> > > > > Just finished up all the Electrics on my RV6-A in the Hanger (garage) out > back and have a small Gremlin. Everything works including transmit and > receiving on both Comm's. > > Symptoms are as follows after turning on the Master: > > 1) About a 15 Amp. discharge shown on the Amp. Gauge > with only the Oil Pressure Light and BC Regulator Charge light activated? > > 2) Everything works with no more discharge shown no > matter how many things are brought online? > > 3) Now it gets interesting........If I transmit on > either radio the following occurs: > > a) CHT & EXT Gauges dance like crazy! > > b) Amp Gauge goes Nuts! > > c) Flap & Trim Indicators leds dance! > > d) Fuel gauges advance very slightly even though > the wings and thus indicators are not hooked up? > > The airport which is 3 miles away says I am transmitting > crystal clear even from inside my garage with a belly antenna?!? > > Any suggestions of where to start looking would be appreciated as I > don't want to put the forward skin down till I get this fixed. > > > Tom in Ohio > > > > > >


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    Time: 04:32:29 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: web site links
    <200304060002.h3602Vk22931@matronics.com>
    From: "Patrick E. Moseley" <moseley@moseley.com>
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Patrick E. Moseley" <moseley@moseley.com> Have you seen the free dynamic DNS sites like: http://www.dyndns.org/ You can use them to setup DNS entries for your home machine using one of the 34 domains that they have (http://www.dyndns.org/services/dyndns/domains.html). Examples include dnsalias.{net, com, org}, homelinux.{net, com, org}. They have "dynamic" DNS entries that change somewhat regularly (like dialups) and "static" dns entries that change infrequently (like high speed cable connections, DSL connections, etc). I have used them for a couple of years and have not had a problem. Patrick Moseley Tucson, AZ In message <200304060002.h3602Vk22931@matronics.com>, on 5-Apr-2003, Chris W writes: > --> RV-List message posted by: Chris W <chrisw3@cox.net> > > Well I have just finished a little organizing of my bookmarks, updated > them on my webserver and thought I would send everyone a link to the > Aviation section. I am sure many of you have seen most of these sites > but I thought for those who are new it might be handy and quicker than > searching google for hours on end. Please feel free to comment on any > changes that might need to be made in organization or any dead links. > > http://68.12.125.52:8088/links/Aviation.htm > > Keep in mind that this server is run on a machine that has a DHCP IP > address, so the address can change at any time, if there are links you > like, I suggest you save them on your own machine. But if it does > change and you want to get at it again just email me and I can tell you > the new IP address. > > do not archive > > -- > Chris Woodhouse > 3147 SW 127th St. > Oklahoma City, OK 73170 > 405-691-5206 > chrisw@programmer.net > N35 20.492' > W97 34.342' > > "They that can give up essential liberty > to obtain a little temporary safety > deserve neither liberty nor safety." > -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Historical Review of Pennsylvania > > > > > >


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    Time: 05:12:15 PM PST US
    From: Charlie & Tupper England <cengland@netdoor.com>
    Subject: Re: Chicago Mayor's office phone #-Meigs Field
    --> RV-List message posted by: Charlie & Tupper England <cengland@netdoor.com> > > >--- "Vern Darley,II" <vern@mindspring.com> wrote: > > >>--> RV-List message posted by: "Vern Darley,II" >><vern@mindspring.com> >> >>I called the Mayor's office -- 312-744-3334 --A lady >>is assigned to note our names and phone numbers for >>callback. Suggest calls,especially from those with >>business contacts in Chicago. >> >>Express yourself now firmly, but politely, or be >>content with the long-term impact on aviation from >>unaccountable and often ignorant politicians tearing >>up our airports. >> >>Contact your senators and representatives,also. >> >>Vern >> I just called & 1st asked to speak to the mayor. I got handed off a couple of times then put on hold for a moment, then the lady said he was unavailable & did I want to leave a number. I told her to let him know that I had visited Chicago in the past but that based on the mayor's actions, I would never spend another dime in Chicago again. I concluded by mentioning that his actions did nothing to help the security of the city and asked her to ask him if he had banned Ryder trucks from Chicago as well. If you write or call, especially if you write the newspaper or other media, be sure to mention that you intend to boycott the city in the future. People always vote their pocket books and politicians know this better than anyone else. Charlie


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    Time: 05:12:15 PM PST US
    From: "Tracy Crook" <lors01@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: Powersport Rotary
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Tracy Crook" <lors01@msn.com> > --> RV-List message posted by: Don.Alexander@AstenJohnson.com > > > Has anyone heard news from Powersport lately? I sent them an inquiry last > week and have not had a reply. It looks like their website has grown > stale, as well. I am beginning to think that they may be no longer with > us. Their engine / psru looked pretty interesting. > Do not archive > RV-8 > Wings I don't have first hand information but several of Powersport's customers have called me asking if I could furnish EFI/Ignition controllers for their PS engines which were shipped without the controllers. (I could) They said they had received a FAX saying that Powersport was going to cease operations immediately and they would not be receiving the remainder of their (pre-paid) orders. BTW, N84TC (my 13B rotary powered RV-4) won the Sun 100 race in category 8 (160 HP RVs). Out ran all the O - 320s and half of the O - 360s in the race. (sometimes you just gotta crow :-) Tracy Crook


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    Time: 05:12:15 PM PST US
    From: Nels Hanson <pa201950@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: taildragger dragger
    --> RV-List message posted by: Nels Hanson <pa201950@yahoo.com> Here is what I use: I have a "taildragger dragger" that has a 3/4" pipe about 2" long welded on the top. I lift up my tail and set the bolt inside of it. This allows it to pivot easily,and I can move my -6 in and out of the hanger with ease and have great manueverability with it. I do not have a 360 degree swiveling tailwheel. Been using this device for 2 years and haven't found anything better yet. It was not my idea,but it sure works well. --- Dean Pichon <DeanPichon@msn.com> wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Dean Pichon" > <DeanPichon@msn.com> > > Hi All, > > > > I'm trying to locate a source to buy a tow bar > that I can use to make it > > easier for me to push/pull my -4 in/out of the > hanger. I've seen units > > advertised to work with RV's, but have not been > able to find anything on the > > internet. Any leads would be most appreciated. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Dean Pichon > > > > Contributions > any other > Forums. > > latest messages. > List members. > > http://www.matronics.com/subscription > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV-List.htm > Digests:http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv-list > http://www.matronics.com/archives > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > > > > http://tax.yahoo.com


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    Time: 05:31:22 PM PST US
    From: Nels Hanson <pa201950@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Van's Windscreen VHF Comm Antenna
    --> RV-List message posted by: Nels Hanson <pa201950@yahoo.com> I concur with the other "post" regarding the windscreen antenna. I,too,had very limited and "directional" problems with the windscreen setup,even though I had just put a new KX155 in my 6.I finally put a normal antenna mounted in the dorsal position and have great transmission and reception qualities,never a directional problem or any other problems with a "normal" antenna. I wouldn't even bother with the windscreen antenna if you want to really count on radio reception. --- Bob <panamared2@brier.net> wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: Bob > <panamared2@brier.net> > > I used it for a short period. Did not get much > range and could not talk > below to tower or other A/C directly below me. On > the ramp I had to turn > the A/C towards the tower to get reception. I put a > whip antenna on the > bottom of the fuselage, and things are a lot better. > I use a Val Com radio. > > I left the foil antenna on windscreen, I plan on > using it for a hand held, > if I ever get one. > > Advice, try it, if it doesn't work you are only out > $7.00. > > Bob > > At 02:56 PM 4/7/03 +0000, jacklockamy@att.net wrote: > >--> RV-List message posted by: jacklockamy@att.net > > > >Anyone have any experience....good or bad.... with > the very inexpensive > >($7) VHF Comm Antenna that Van's sells which is > mounted on the > >canopy/windscreen? > >-- > >Jack Lockamy > >Camarillo, CA. > >RV-7A N174JL reserved > > > > Contributions > any other > Forums. > > latest messages. > List members. > > http://www.matronics.com/subscription > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV-List.htm > Digests:http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv-list > http://www.matronics.com/archives > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > > > > http://tax.yahoo.com


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    Time: 06:04:22 PM PST US
    From: "Kyle Boatright" <kyle.boatright@adelphia.net>
    Subject: Re: SNF report
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright" <kyle.boatright@adelphia.net> I think the comment about the weather is the key. People have jobs and other responsibilities back home and this causes most of the "flyers" to keep a wary eye on the weather. From the weather briefs I got down at SnF, it looked like if you didn't depart by last Friday or during a "window" on Sunday, you'd probably spend most of this week stuck in Florida or South Georgia. The weather is playing havoc with the VFR folks this week... KB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Norman" <jgnorman@tampabay.rr.com> Subject: RE: RV-List: SNF report > --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Norman" <jgnorman@tampabay.rr.com> > > The show was MUCH better attended Wednesday through Friday... but even on > Friday morning there were a lot of people leaving because of the weather up > north (the weather here was perfect all week). > > By Thursday evening, there were approx 130 RVs on the line, and then more in > the camping areas. More than you could look at in a day. There were many > incredibly nice RV's. At Van's banquet last night, they said that they were > told that there were more than 150 RV's here. > > The Wednesday through Tuesday schedule made many people leave by the > weekend. I live only 17.3 miles away, and I brought my plane home this am. > My hangar mate took his 6 home on Friday. When I left, there were only 21 > RV's left... scattered over an area that previously was PACKED with RV's. > If they keep this format, you need to be here the first few days. There were > a LOT more people during the first few days as well... today, a lot fewer > people and lots of room to walk around with the vendors. > > jim > Tampa > Razzmatazz... RV-6A > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Brian Denk > To: rv8list@yahoogroups.com; rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV-List: SNF report > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Denk" <akroguy@hotmail.com> > > Howdy folks, > > I'm still in Tampa, but spent a day and a half at the show. Not quite as > busy as I had expected, this being my first trip to SNF. I didn't fly my -8 > to the show, but left it at Raytheon FBO at Tampa international. My wife > and son flew in via airlines and it was just easier to drive over to > Lakeland after picking them up. My flight from New Mexico to Tampa was > absolutely awesome...smooth...and fast! I never saw GPS cruise ground speeds > under 210mph the entire way. Gotta love those westerlies. > > I met up with Bernie Kerr for lunch and didn't see many other folks that I > recognize. Oh, there was Colonel Stu doing his usual fabulous job of leading > a flight of RV's in a most elegant manner overhead numerous times. For a > show of this size, I was surprised to see relatively few RV's on the line at > any given time. I felt that the Notam shutting down the field for most of > the afternoon for the airshow really limited access to and from the field. > I'm glad I just drove and was able to leave when the heat and humidity > started to get to me. I'm an arid climate dude...humidity kills me. > > I got to meet "Van the man" in person...for the first time ever! I took a > few pics with him, along with my son, Skyler. Little does my boy know just > how much this quiet man has meant to his daddy. > > My trip back home begins tomorrow morning. Wx looks really gnarly (surfer > talk) along the top of Florida. Hope it's gone by early am. > > Folks, keep bangin' the rivets. You have no idea just how much fun you have > in store for you! Think about it...halfway across the USA in the time it > takes to put in a day's work. It'll just boggle your mind, lads. > > Brian Denk > RV8 N94BD > 325 hrs...and counting. > >


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    Time: 06:06:32 PM PST US
    From: TwoFeathersRV6@aol.com
    Subject: Re: SUN & FUN report
    --> RV-List message posted by: TwoFeathersRV6@aol.com Just read Jim Norman's (my excellent hanger mate) report on S & F and, as is his custom, the always humble builder of Razzmatazz had failed to note that his creation won BEST LOW WING honours. Way to go! do not archive


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    Time: 06:15:37 PM PST US
    From: "Steve J Hurlbut" <sjhdcl@kingston.net>
    "Subaru Group" <subaruaircraft@yahoogroups.com>, <rv-list@matronics.com>
    Subject: gascolator extension parts
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Steve J Hurlbut" <sjhdcl@kingston.net> I want to extend my gascolator about 2" to clear the bottom cowl for pre-flight checks. Do most do this with brass piping? Any source for and external threaded brass pipe on one end and internal threads on the other? Anybody have a combination of fuel fitting that worked for this? Steve RV7A


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    Time: 06:15:46 PM PST US
    Subject: Re:
    From: Don Diehl <diehldon@attbi.com>
    --> RV-List message posted by: Don Diehl <diehldon@attbi.com> >> >> I'm trying to locate a source to buy a tow bar that I can use to make it >> easier for me to push/pull my -4 in/out of the hanger. I've seen units >> advertised to work with RV's, but have not been able to find anything on the >> internet. Any leads would be most appreciated. >> I replaced the AN6 axle bolt on the tail wheel with one that is 1/2" longer so I could stack three washers under the head and three under the nut. I got a Cessna towbar from A/C Spruce, about $40, the one with the spring loaded, lever action forks. Machined aluminum bushings to go into the sockets on the forks and mate with the extended axle. WORKS PERFECTLY! Someday soon I'm gonna get a digicam to post pix of little helpers like this. Don Diehl Bremerton WA RV-4 N28EW Do not archive.


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    Time: 06:23:32 PM PST US
    From: LeastDrag93066@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Prop test results posted
    --> RV-List message posted by: LeastDrag93066@aol.com Hi All, Just a thought. Ivoprop is also an "experimental only" prop. Just because there are "no know" flight restrictions, doesn't mean there aren't any. Only that you get to find them. (VERY BAD!) ANY undampened crankshaft Lycoming 360 engine HAS a "minimum time" of operation between 2000 RPM and 2300 RPM. This is an engine limitation, not a propeller limitation. The specific RPM range is determined for specific engines and propellers by a vibration survey as part of the certification process. On the "Experimental Only" propellers, you're the test pilot. Been there. Done that. Don't get complacent. Jim Ayers EAA Flight Advisor


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    Time: 06:24:56 PM PST US
    From: "Chopper" <mkellems@tnweb.com>
    Subject: Re: taildragger dragger
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Chopper" <mkellems@tnweb.com> For what it's worth, I used a 2" chain repair link from TSC Farm store spread out just a little and then inserted a clear plastic tube over it, tied a nice knot in the tie down rope (about 5' in length)and use it to pull my -4 into the hangar with ease and great visibility all around the plane while doing so,for about $3. Mike Kellems Do Not Archive --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses at TNWEB LLC]


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    Time: 06:46:35 PM PST US
    From: "Terence Gannon" <terence.gannon@telus.net>
    Subject: Hangar Space at Springbank (CYBW)
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Terence Gannon" <terence.gannon@telus.net> Those of you not in Southern Alberta can press delete now -- for those of you that are, and may be interested in some hangar space at Springbank (CYBW), I have space available that would accommodate pretty much any RV, and would be suitable for either a complete aircraft or one under construction. If you're interested, please contact me off list. Terry in Calgary RV-6 S/N 24414 "Wings"


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    Time: 06:57:44 PM PST US
    From: "Rhett Westerman" <Rhettwesterman@cox.net>
    Subject: Prop test results posted
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Rhett Westerman" <Rhettwesterman@cox.net> Jim, Where does the info that all Lycoming undamped engines have this "minimun time" between 2200 and 2300 RPM come from? Is this written someplace? I have an 0-360 A1A with an MT Prop and there are no restrictions with the combination. best, Rhett -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of LeastDrag93066@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Prop test results posted --> RV-List message posted by: LeastDrag93066@aol.com Hi All, Just a thought. Ivoprop is also an "experimental only" prop. Just because there are "no know" flight restrictions, doesn't mean there aren't any. Only that you get to find them. (VERY BAD!) ANY undampened crankshaft Lycoming 360 engine HAS a "minimum time" of operation between 2000 RPM and 2300 RPM. This is an engine limitation, not a propeller limitation. The specific RPM range is determined for specific engines and propellers by a vibration survey as part of the certification process. On the "Experimental Only" propellers, you're the test pilot. Been there. Done that. Don't get complacent. Jim Ayers EAA Flight Advisor


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    Time: 07:09:54 PM PST US
    From: "Randy Lervold" <randy@rv-8.com>
    Subject: Re: taildragger dragger
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Randy Lervold" <randy@rv-8.com> Have a Cessna tow bar laying around? It works perfectly on your tailwheel. Click the link titled "IDEA: Tailwheel dragger" at the top of this page... www.rv-8.com/IdeasProducts.htm Randy Lervold RV-8 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nels Hanson" <pa201950@yahoo.com> Subject: RV-List: Re: taildragger dragger > --> RV-List message posted by: Nels Hanson <pa201950@yahoo.com> > > Here is what I use: I have a "taildragger dragger" > that has a 3/4" pipe about 2" long welded on the top. > I lift up my tail and set the bolt inside of it. This > allows it to pivot easily,and I can move my -6 in and > out of the hanger with ease and have great > manueverability with it. I do not have a 360 degree > swiveling tailwheel. Been using this device for 2 > years and haven't found anything better yet. It was > not my idea,but it sure works well. > --- Dean Pichon <DeanPichon@msn.com> wrote: > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Dean Pichon" > > <DeanPichon@msn.com> > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > I'm trying to locate a source to buy a tow bar > > that I can use to make it > > > easier for me to push/pull my -4 in/out of the > > hanger. I've seen units > > > advertised to work with RV's, but have not been > > able to find anything on the > > > internet. Any leads would be most appreciated. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Dean Pichon > > > > > > > > Contributions > > any other > > Forums. > > > > latest messages. > > List members. > > > > http://www.matronics.com/subscription > > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV-List.htm > > Digests:http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv-list > > http://www.matronics.com/archives > > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare > > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://tax.yahoo.com > >


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    Time: 08:19:50 PM PST US
    From: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@usjet.net>
    Subject: Prop test results posted
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@usjet.net> I searched the archives and found several links, but they don't seem to work any more. Perhaps the FAA has moved them; I'm sure someone will dig them up. The lack of a published restriction with an MT prop likely means that the FAA hasn't required the combo be tested (or more appropriately, no one has submitted test data for certification). Vibration is a complicated thing, and unless MT (or any other exp. prop manufacturer) has actually done the tests for certification on some engine/airframe, nothing really is known about rpm areas to avoid. Those wiser need to chime in... Alex Peterson Maple Grove, MN RV6-A N66AP 291 hours www.rvforum.org www.usfamily.net/web/alexpeterson > > Where does the info that all Lycoming undamped engines have > this "minimun time" between 2200 and 2300 RPM come from? Is > this written someplace? > > I have an 0-360 A1A with an MT Prop and there are no > restrictions with the combination. >


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    Time: 08:35:17 PM PST US
    From: "Karie Daniel" <karie4@attbi.com>
    Subject: Rudder (7 and 9) strobe
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Karie Daniel" <karie4@attbi.com> I am getting ready to close up my rudder (RV-7 rudder, same as the RV-9) and I will be putting a strobe on the lower fiberglass piece. I can't seem to find out how and where this is wired since I haven't purchased the strobe yet. Should I wait to rivet skins to the spar? My VS is already closed. Thanks, Karie Daniel RV-7A Sammamish, WA


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    Time: 08:47:21 PM PST US
    From: "Kyle Boatright" <kyle.boatright@adelphia.net>
    Subject: Re: Rudder (7 and 9) strobe
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright" <kyle.boatright@adelphia.net> Go ahead and attach the skin. Installing the strobe is easy as long as you have not attached the bottom fairing. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karie Daniel" <karie4@attbi.com> Subject: RV-List: Rudder (7 and 9) strobe > --> RV-List message posted by: "Karie Daniel" <karie4@attbi.com> > > I am getting ready to close up my rudder (RV-7 rudder, same as the RV-9) and I will be putting a strobe on the lower fiberglass piece. I can't seem to find out how and where this is wired since I haven't purchased the strobe yet. Should I wait to rivet skins to the spar? My VS is already closed. > > Thanks, > > Karie Daniel > RV-7A > Sammamish, WA > >


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    From: VFT@aol.com
    Subject: Re: LED Position lights?
    --> RV-List message posted by: VFT@aol.com I spoke with the Whelen folks at Sun-N-Fun and they said they should release their LED position light assemblies sometime later this year. If I recall correctly thay said the LED assemblies would be replacing the current position light assemblies in their product line. Danny Melnik F1 #25 Melbourne (FL) Rocket Factory




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