Today's Message Index:
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1. 02:07 AM - Zenair (Ewinne@aol.com)
2. 07:58 AM - Re: Low and Slow (Hal Rozema)
3. 08:50 AM - Re: Low and Slow (RV_8 Pilot)
4. 09:47 AM - Re: Type "A" (HCRV6@aol.com)
5. 09:52 AM - Dynon EFIS-D10 (Crosley, Rich)
6. 10:19 AM - Re: Dynon EFIS-D10 (Kyle Boatright)
7. 10:32 AM - Re: Lasar and/or fuel injection problems on first flight (Doug Rozendaal)
8. 10:40 AM - Fuel Pump Rebuild (Mark Phillips)
9. 11:11 AM - rv related website (Evan and Megan Johnson)
10. 11:22 AM - Re: Fuel Pump Rebuild (Jaye and Scott Jackson)
11. 11:35 AM - Re: Low and Slow (Aircraft Technical Book Company)
12. 11:48 AM - RV-10 SnF Update? (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
13. 11:48 AM - Re: DIY VHF Antenna (Brad Benson)
14. 01:15 PM - RV and Rocket Fly-In April 26 and 27 (Frazier, Vincent A)
15. 04:18 PM - Ammeter & MP (JDaniel343@aol.com)
16. 05:50 PM - Re: Low and Slow (ranchspinner@Webtv.net (Mary L Bradley))
17. 05:51 PM - Re: Ammeter & MP (Kenneth Beene)
18. 06:54 PM - Re: Nav Antenna (LeastDrag93066@aol.com)
19. 07:07 PM - Re: Prop test results posted (LeastDrag93066@aol.com)
20. 07:13 PM - Re: Lasar and/or fuel injection problems on first flight (Charlie & Tupper England)
21. 07:30 PM - Re: Lasar and/or fuel injection problems on first flight (Jerry Springer)
22. 07:38 PM - AD List, Off Topic (Glenn Brasch)
23. 07:49 PM - Re: AD List, Off Topic (Dan Checkoway)
24. 07:53 PM - Re: Low and Slow (RV_8 Pilot)
25. 08:06 PM - Re: AD List, Off Topic (Glenn Brasch)
26. 08:29 PM - new kid here (j tramontano)
27. 08:42 PM - Re: Dynon EFIS-D10 (Russ Werner)
28. 08:47 PM - Re: Low and Slow (Dr. Leathers)
29. 09:22 PM - Re: Low and Slow (Larry Bowen)
30. 09:30 PM - Re: Low and Slow (Meketa)
31. 10:02 PM - Re: new kid here (Jim Jewell)
32. 11:08 PM - Re:Low and slower (Warren W Hurd)
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--> RV-List message posted by: Ewinne@aol.com
Don-
Don't feel bad about looking at the Zenith CH701. I spent Friday at the
Splash-in, and the 701 on floats was FAR AND AWAY the quickest bird off the
water in the take-off contest and also won the spot landing contest. It
looked really controllable, and you're right- slow flight seemed real easy in
that bird, and real slow. I was impressed.
Ed Winne
RV9A
Jonestown PA
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| Subject: | Re: Low and Slow |
--> RV-List message posted by: Hal Rozema <hartist1@cox.net>
Current 701 plans are VERY complete, CAD generated, very readable, plus a
complete thorough color photo step by step assembly sequence. I've had no
problems whatever. Twice, unable to find some dimension or bit of information
and was directed to it on a specific drawing by Nick or Sebastian at the Zenair
factory. Out of the pages of parts (list) I have only found one item (4 AN
bolts) overlooked. they were promptly sent.
Hal
theplanefolks.net
Paul Besing wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Besing" <azpilot@extremezone.com>
>
> I started to build a CH601HDS before I got wise and built the RV. I thought
> the plans and manual were substandard of the rest that I have seen, even
> Van's. I know many don't like Van's drawings and manuals, but they are some
> of the best in the industry. Chris's plans for the rudder kit had little
> hand written notes that were barely legible. The quality of the rudder kit
> was acceptable. Nothing to write home about, it's only some ribs, spar, and
> skin. After I finished the rudder, I found many tales about how the 601
> performance figures were grossly inflated. After doing some digging around,
> I realized it wasn't all that much of an airplane, and found that there were
> far more RV's being built in my area.
>
> Can't speak much for the 701. I know it's slow and most are happy with it.
> My personal experience with Zenith was not very favorable, so the RV was a
> slam dunk. It is not really the same type of comparison, obviously, but as
> far as a kit aircraft company is concerned, there wasn't any competition to
> Van's. Stable, yes, they have been around, and should be for a long time,
> so there is a plus there. You might want to get the opinions of some real
> Zenith builders on the Zenith-List. I know there are some builders lurking
> around there.
>
> Paul Besing
> RV-6A Sold
> Waiting on RV-10
> http://www.lacodeworks.com/besing
> Kitlog Builder's Log Software
> http://www.kitlog.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Donald Mei" <don_mei@hotmail.com>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV-List: Low and Slow
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Donald Mei" <don_mei@hotmail.com>
> >
> >
> > Dear All,
> >
> > I recently got back from Sun-N-Fun and had the absolute best time hanging
> > out watching the ultralights. I even had a couple of offers for rides but
> > couldn't haul my butt out of bed early enough to take anyone up on their
> > offer.
> >
> > Well after watching all this fun, I noticed a really ugly little airplane
> at
> > the show. It wasn't in the ultralight area, but could fly as slowly as
> any
> > ultralight. It was really ugly. Purposeful but ugly. Kindof like an old
> > stake body pickup truck. You might even say it was beautiful from a form
> > follows function perspective.
> >
> > Well anyway, this beast/beauty was the Zenith CH-701. Ugly or not its
> hard
> > to argue with a 24 know stall speed. I had visions of flying at 50 mph at
> > 200 ft with the doors open. (hinged at the top like a cub) (kids running
> > outside waving, you know the scene)
> >
> > And best of all its all Metal. It even looks good (purposeful) with that
> > training wheel out front.
> >
> > Now my question is. Do any of you have any experience with the Zenith
> kits.
> > Have any of you dealt with the Zenith factory. Have you heard anything
> > about the CH-701?
> >
> >
> > Any and all input is appreciated.
> > No I am not selling my RV-4 to finance this.
> >
> > The tail kit is only $1300, and by the time my wife figures out what she's
> > in for, it will be too late.
> >
> > Amusing "what the hell do you want one of those for" replies are also
> > appreciated, but will not be heeded.
> >
> > Thanks for all of your help.
> >
> > Please send replies to my personal address in addition to the list.
> > don_mei@hotmail.com
> >
> > Don Mei
> > RV-4
> > 3B9 - Chester, CT
> >
> >
> > p.s. Did you all see the guy in the Stearman biplane at SnF. Nothing
> like
> > a tail slide with the engine out at 300 ft. Best act of the show.
> >
> >
>
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| Subject: | Re: Low and Slow |
--> RV-List message posted by: "RV_8 Pilot" <rv_8pilot@hotmail.com>
can't offer any subjective comments on the Zenith products, but for my slow
and low flying, Piper Cub is the platform. Maybe a Sport Trainer if you
really have to have experimental. If slow isn't slow enough, put VG's on it
and get slower!
2
do not archive
Bryan Jones -8 & J-3
Pearland, Texas
>From: "Donald Mei" <don_mei@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV-List: Low and Slow
>Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 01:14:56 +0000
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Donald Mei" <don_mei@hotmail.com>
>
>
>Dear All,
>
>I recently got back from Sun-N-Fun and had the absolute best time hanging
>out watching the ultralights. I even had a couple of offers for rides but
>couldn't haul my butt out of bed early enough to take anyone up on their
>offer.
>
>Well after watching all this fun, I noticed a really ugly little airplane
>at
>the show. It wasn't in the ultralight area, but could fly as slowly as any
>ultralight. It was really ugly. Purposeful but ugly. Kindof like an old
>stake body pickup truck. You might even say it was beautiful from a form
>follows function perspective.
>
>Well anyway, this beast/beauty was the Zenith CH-701. Ugly or not its hard
>to argue with a 24 know stall speed. I had visions of flying at 50 mph at
>200 ft with the doors open. (hinged at the top like a cub) (kids running
>outside waving, you know the scene)
>
>And best of all its all Metal. It even looks good (purposeful) with that
>training wheel out front.
>
>Now my question is. Do any of you have any experience with the Zenith
>kits.
> Have any of you dealt with the Zenith factory. Have you heard anything
>about the CH-701?
>
>
>Any and all input is appreciated.
>No I am not selling my RV-4 to finance this.
>
>The tail kit is only $1300, and by the time my wife figures out what she's
>in for, it will be too late.
>
>Amusing "what the hell do you want one of those for" replies are also
>appreciated, but will not be heeded.
>
>Thanks for all of your help.
>
>Please send replies to my personal address in addition to the list.
>don_mei@hotmail.com
>
>Don Mei
>RV-4
>3B9 - Chester, CT
>
>
>p.s. Did you all see the guy in the Stearman biplane at SnF. Nothing like
>a tail slide with the engine out at 300 ft. Best act of the show.
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: HCRV6@aol.com
In a message dated 4/13/03 10:13:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us writes:
<< Harry,
its been a long time since I looked that one up, but it was either in the MS
standards or it was in the older AN standards, of which we have some at the
college. I also went down to the San Diego Aerospace museum a few years ago
to look some stuff up, and may have seen it then.
The gist is that the older type A fittings were soldered on joints and the
newer type B just needed to be flared to 37 degrees. I would expect that
this comes out of the SAE standards like so much else in airmotive does, but
I haven't researched this that far.
do not archive >>
Thanks Wheeler, that's very interesting. If correct, the solder on primer
fittings I just ordered from ACS would then be the older "Type A", but I am
not aware of any "official" primer fittings that use 37 degree flare
connections. I almost made some from standard AN fittings, and may yet
decide to do so. Thanks again.
Do not archive.
Harry Crosby
Pleasanton, California
RV-6, firewall forward
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Crosley, Rich" <RCROSLEY@HRTEXTRON.TEXTRON.COM>
Does anyone have any feedback on installing or using the Dynon EFIS-D10?
What is the consciences?
Rich Crosley
RV-8 Fuselage
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| Subject: | Re: Dynon EFIS-D10 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright" <kyle.boatright@adelphia.net>
This (and the entire EFIS field) is a great topic. I looked at Blue
Mountain, Dynon, and PC Flight Systems at SnF. I spoke with the developers
of each system at some length (maybe 10 minutes per), and listened to other
conversations for at least as long.
Based on the answers I recieved, the Dynon would be my choice. I am aware
of problems with early systems from Blue Mountain, but "on the flightline"
at SnF, the story was that they had resolved the problems with their EFIS
one. How that relates to the Lite, I dunno. Also, the PC flight systems
folks indicated that their unit had a margin of +/- 5 degrees or so in each
axis, which put me off of that product.
I know folks who have used both the Blue Mountain Efis-lite, and the PC
Systems units. There have been *issues* with both systems. I don't know
anyone who has a Dynon, but I'm waiting until I hear a dozen very positive
reports, and then I'll seriously consider one.
One problem I find with "new toys" like EFIS systems is that if there is a
problem, it is often difficult for the proud new owner to face up to the
fact that s/he spent thousands of dollars on a gizmo that doesn't work quite
as advertised.
Anyone out there flying a Dynon, BMA Efis lite, or PC Flight System's
product wanna chime in?
KB
----- Original Message -----
From: "Crosley, Rich" <RCROSLEY@HRTEXTRON.TEXTRON.COM>
Subject: RV-List: Dynon EFIS-D10
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Crosley, Rich"
<RCROSLEY@HRTEXTRON.TEXTRON.COM>
>
> Does anyone have any feedback on installing or using the Dynon EFIS-D10?
> What is the consciences?
>
> Rich Crosley
> RV-8 Fuselage
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Lasar and/or fuel injection problems on first flight |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com>
Was the throttle wide open? What is the M.P. at idle. What was the Fuel
flow?
If the throttle was not wide open, ignore the MP and firewall it. If you
have a leak in the M.P. line it will read atmospheric pressure, not M.P.
you can confirm this by checking the MP at idle, it should be around 15" if
it is much higher than that you have a leak in the MP line.
Your fuel flow should be around 17 gph at wide open/Full rich. If it is not
pull it back till the fuel flow shows that.
Tailwinds,
Doug Rozendaal
> >
> >--> RV-List message posted by: Dwpetrus@aol.com
> >
> >First flight of a friends RV7A was a little disappointing. His new
XP-360
> >with fuel injection and Lasar would not develop full power. The vision
> >guages indicated 2700 rpm with 28 in man press. but the airplane was
> >sluggish
> >and climbed at only 500 fpm and required leaning to run in flight (seemed
to
> >be flooding out). We plan to start trouble shooting today and trying to
> >narrow down the problem. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Our
group
> >does not have any experience with the Lasar sys. or the Bendix
(Precision)
> >fuel injection.
> >
> >Thaniks,
> >Wayne Petrus
> >RV8A flying (carberated/standard mags)
> >
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| Subject: | Fuel Pump Rebuild |
--> RV-List message posted by: Mark Phillips <ripsteel@edge.net>
Howdy list- got a couple of questions about the AC fuel pump on my 320,
I don't have it in hand, but believe the # is LW15472.... it does have
the stamped (not laminated) arm.
Are rebuild kits available for these? If so, where? I haven't seen any
listed anywhere and am wondering if some special tooling is required.
Another lister thought he had heard that these could be re-assembled to
reverse the ports from side to side. Not sure if this means rotating
the body or reversing the valves- (I haven't had mine apart yet pending
finding a kit, if possible)
Thanks!
Mark
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| Subject: | rv related website |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Evan and Megan Johnson" <evmeg@snowcrest.net>
For those of you who have not yet foud it, I now have a website. All of the
information you would typically have to call to get about my tank building
service can now be downloaded. It is a relativly new deal for me so it may
yet have some holes in it...all help finding them will be graciously
accepted. Please take a look, especially those of you getting close to
needing tanks or repairs. www.evansaviationproducts.com As always, feel
free to email or call with questions or comments.
Thanks a bunch...Evan Johnson
evmeg@snowcrest.net
(530)247-0375
---
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Pump Rebuild |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jaye and Scott Jackson <jayeandscott@shaw.ca>
I think they're just made to be tossed.
Scott in VAncouver
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Phillips" <ripsteel@edge.net>
Subject: RV-List: Fuel Pump Rebuild
> --> RV-List message posted by: Mark Phillips <ripsteel@edge.net>
>
> Howdy list- got a couple of questions about the AC fuel pump on my 320,
> I don't have it in hand, but believe the # is LW15472.... it does have
> the stamped (not laminated) arm.
>
> Are rebuild kits available for these? If so, where? I haven't seen any
> listed anywhere and am wondering if some special tooling is required.
>
> Another lister thought he had heard that these could be re-assembled to
> reverse the ports from side to side. Not sure if this means rotating
> the body or reversing the valves- (I haven't had mine apart yet pending
> finding a kit, if possible)
>
> Thanks!
> Mark
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Low and Slow |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Aircraft Technical Book Company" <winterland@rkymtnhi.com>
I've had some really fun days with ultralights. (I had a Phantom and a
Flightstar)
Chasing coyotes, landing on beaches, breakfast at Hojos.
One trip I'll never forget started with an hour flight to some friends who
lived on a golf course in Socorro, NM. Four of us landed on the 12th
fairway, had a wonderful breakfast and then took off west toward the VLA
(very large array radio telescopes). Just diving into the Plains of San
Augustine, we came on a huge heard of at least 100 elk (or something like
elk) They took off running as tightly as a school of fish and must have
been maintaining at least 30 mph. We chased them around for 20 minutes.
No, they didn't stop running. We got bored chasing. Since one of the
pilot's father was a chief scientist at the VLA, we were invited to stop by
for a personal tour of the facility. So we landed in the parking lot, were
met by a couple technicians, and got a first class show. 2 hours later
we're airborne again, sort of. 60-70 miles never exceeding 30' agl. Landed
for fuel in a little town called Magdelena. No airport. Just a patch of
field behind a gas station. Taxied to the pumps, filled up. Walked across
the street for some of the best chimichangas on the planet. With bellies
and tanks full, a couple of the locals "watched for cars" and we blasted off
down Main Street. After popping over an 8-9000' ridge, we dove back into
the Rio Grande Valley and shot the river back to Albuquerque, again never
much more than 100' up.
There are some things you just can't do in an RV.
Andy
do not archive
> >I recently got back from Sun-N-Fun and had the absolute best time hanging
> >out watching the ultralights
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| Subject: | RV-10 SnF Update? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
Anybody have any new fragments of info on the RV-10 from the Sun-n-Fun
talk that took place?
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| Subject: | Re: DIY VHF Antenna |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Brad Benson" <brad@cds-inc.com>
Martin,
I looked into doing something similar - in fact, you can get streamlined enclosures
from several companies that make R/C jet kits (use the vertical fin). In
the end, however, I decided that Commant blade antennas from eBay for $25 were
a better use of my time and money.
If you're still interested, you can find Jim's article online at http://www.rst-engr.com/kitplanes/KP9911/KP9911.htm ....
Thanks!
Brad "Sharpie" Benson
RV6AQB underway...
"Please buy my software, it's funding my RV6A project!" - http://www.notamd.com
*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********
On 4/14/2003 at 10:03 AM Martin Hone wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Martin Hone"
><martin.hone@tradergroup.com.au>
>
>=09
>G'Day Listers,
>
>I am considering building my own antenna using Van's copper tape set in a
>streamlined glassfibre strip and mounting on the RV belly. Anyone done
>something similar, or can direct me to to info on DIY antenna construction
>? I seem to recall something, maybe by Jim Weir, on the subject but
>couldn't find it in the archives.
>
>Regards
>
>Martin in Oz
>
>
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| Subject: | RV and Rocket Fly-In April 26 and 27 |
<rv-list-digest@matronics.com>
--> RV-List message posted by: "Frazier, Vincent A" <VFrazier@usi.edu>
Guys,
John C. and I plan to fly over to this event. I have talked to Les F. and it sounds
like it should be a great time. Les is gonna give Tom Martin's fly-in party
a run for the money! Woohoo! You'd better make your reservation soon!!!!
Real soon!
Please forward this email to all interested parties.
Vince
********************************************************************************************************************************************************
Subject: RV and Rocket Fly-In (others welcome too!)
MIDWEST RV and ROCKET
FLY-IN
April 26th and 27th 2003 Rebel's Bluff
Airport (not on the sectional yet) N37 06.1 W93 52.2
2 miles NNE of Mt Vernon (MISSOURI) Municipal
Airport (2MO) About 30 miles west of Springfield, Missouri, 150 miles south
of Kansas City, and 150 miles ENE of Tulsa, OK.
2,200' x 75' Very Nice Sod
CTAF 122.9
Av Gas 100LL available for approx $2. (dealer cost)
Special Events Include: Aerobatic demomstration flights, skydivers, and some fun
events with your airplane.
Everyone's invited for Bar-B-Que Lunch (please bring a covered dish of potato salad,
or cold slaw, or buns, chips, cookies if you can.)
If you are staying overnight, dinner will include steak or chicken, salad and baked
potatoes.
There is camping on the airstrip, or a motel ($50/couple).
If enough wives/girlfriends show an interest we will have a special trip arranged
to the "Precious Moments Chapel" and museum in Carthage, MO. RSVP Ladies!
Sunday morning will have a great breakfast to guaranteed to get you at least halfway
home.
We will pass the hat to help cover the cost of food/drinks. Everything else at
the fly in is free!
Please RSVP to Les Featherston, e-mail at lwfeatherston@aol.com or 417-466-4663,
or 11853 Lawrence 1105, Mt. Vernon, MISSOURI.
Hotel accomodations:
Arrival Date: Saturday April 26, 2003
Departure Date: Sunday April 27, 2003
Room Rate: $49.50 Per Room Per Night Plus Tax for (1) to (2) Persons
The rates are net, not subject to any discount cards, VIP Cards, or coupons.
Rooms reserved under the Featherston Fly In.
These rates include a continental breakfast with cinnamon raisin and regular bagels
with cream cheese, toast and jelly of your choice, freshly baked donuts,
orange, apple and grape juice from 6:00 AM to 10:00 AM, and coffee 24 hours a
day. Local phone calls are free. Our heated indoor pool is open from 7:00 AM until
10:00 PM daily. Data ports on every room phone.
Jim Prentice, GM
General Manager
Mt. Vernon Super 8
417-461-0230
jpr23@sofnet.com <mailto:jpr23@sofnet.com>
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--> RV-List message posted by: JDaniel343@aol.com
I know this has been talked about before. But has anyone come to the conclusion
that this occurs because of RF interferance?
I have a Sigtronics 400 intercom and a Mac grip with push to talk switch plus trim
switches. While I was trying to cure the problem of the ammeter going hay
wire when I keyed the mike, I had the intercome out of the panel and laying on
top of the spar. I just happen to have my hand on top of the intercom when I
keyed the mike and no problems occured with the ammeter. If I waved my hand near
the intercom no problems but as soon as I took my hand away the problem returned.
Any quesses as to what is going on.
John Danielson
RV-6
140 HRS
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| Subject: | Re: Low and Slow |
--> RV-List message posted by: ranchspinner@webtv.net (Mary L Bradley)
How stupid do you have to be to chase Elk for twenty minutes. That's
called harassment of wildlife. Stresses them way to much. You should
loose your flying privileges.THINK!!!! DO NOT make the flying community
look bad.
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Kenneth Beene" <kbeene@citilink.com>
Hi John,
Are you using a Hall-Effect amp meter or a shunt type meter? If a shunt
meter is used the meter measures in 1/1000 of a volt and does not
require much stray RF to move it. I suspect that it is an RF problem.
Does this happen when you key the mike with the transmitter turned off?
If not, RF from the transceiver could be feeding to your intercom down
the mike or headphone leads. This stray RF could easily get rectified
by a loose ground and affect the sensitive meter. Your hand near the
intercom could shunt the RF to ground and prevent the interference. I
would check for proper shielding of the radio lead and good ground
connections. If this fails try RF bypass capacitors on the meter leads
and/or the radio leads.
Ken
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--> RV-List message posted by: LeastDrag93066@aol.com
In a message dated 04/12/2003 5:28:21 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
bert6@mybluelight.com writes:
> Have a question, I saw a few Rv's at SNF, that
> had the Nav antenna, under the fuselage, below the
> H.S.
>
> I was thinking of doing that,for those who did this
> any problem, with this installation? Pros and cons...
> Your comments would be appreciated.
>
The horizontally mounted NAV antenna needs to be mounted two feet away from
any other conductive horizontal surface. Just like the vertically mounted
COM antenna needs to be mounted two feet away from any other conductive
vertically surface.
I suggest you install a Sportcraft NAV antenna in the wingtip. I know you
didn't see a single one of those at Sun-N-Fun. :-)
You can contact Bob Archer (Sportcraft Antenna) at (310) 316-8796, or at
bobsantennas@earthlink.com
Jim Ayers
Less Drag Products, Inc.
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| Subject: | Re: Prop test results posted |
--> RV-List message posted by: LeastDrag93066@aol.com
In a message dated 04/11/2003 2:56:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
Rhettwesterman@cox.net writes:
> After your many posts
> about this in fact being true and the post about the MT three blade prop
> with the restriction, I called MT to verify my 0-360 A1A had no RPM
> restrictions with the MTV-15 Prop and MT did verify this to be the case.
>
Hi Rhett,
You didn't mention who you talked to in Germany at MT-Propeller.
I would like to make sure I didn't misunderstand the engine restriction
myself.
Jim Ayers
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| Subject: | Re: Lasar and/or fuel injection problems on first flight |
--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie & Tupper England <cengland@netdoor.com>
Jerry Springer wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
>
>
>Charlie & Tupper England wrote:
>
>
>
>>If it's fixed pitch & you're turning 2700 on takeoff, there's your problem.
>>
>>Charlie
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>Explain please!!!
>
>Jerry
>
Duh... That was typed in a hurry; should have been 'might be your problem.'
Constant speed props adjust pitch as the speed of the plane increases to
maintain load on the engine & angle of attack (thrust). My thought was
that if it's fixed pitch & allows the engine to turn it 2700 in near
static conditions, its angle of attack could drop to near zero & produce
minimal thrust after the initial acceleration when the plane has
attained climb airspeed.
My thought process was caused by the memory of an Eze builder who had
tremendous static thrust from his (small) auto conversion engine & FP
prop. When 1st flight was attempted, the plane wouldn't go fast enough
to climb out of ground effect & he died in the crash.
In retrospect, it was pointless to post the idea since the type of prop
wasn't specified, the rpm & fuel flow weren't verified & specified, etc.
Charlie
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| Subject: | Re: Lasar and/or fuel injection problems on first flight |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
Charlie & Tupper England wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Charlie & Tupper England <cengland@netdoor.com>
>
> Jerry Springer wrote:
>
>
>>--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
>>
>>
>>Charlie & Tupper England wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>If it's fixed pitch & you're turning 2700 on takeoff, there's your problem.
>>>
>>>Charlie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>Explain please!!!
>>
>>Jerry
>>
>
> Duh... That was typed in a hurry; should have been 'might be your problem.'
>
> Constant speed props adjust pitch as the speed of the plane increases to
> maintain load on the engine & angle of attack (thrust). My thought was
> that if it's fixed pitch & allows the engine to turn it 2700 in near
> static conditions, its angle of attack could drop to near zero & produce
> minimal thrust after the initial acceleration when the plane has
> attained climb airspeed.
>
> My thought process was caused by the memory of an Eze builder who had
> tremendous static thrust from his (small) auto conversion engine & FP
> prop. When 1st flight was attempted, the plane wouldn't go fast enough
> to climb out of ground effect & he died in the crash.
>
> In retrospect, it was pointless to post the idea since the type of prop
> wasn't specified, the rpm & fuel flow weren't verified & specified, etc.
>
> Charlie
>
>
True, it would have been much more helpful to have more information.
I was hoping the original poster would come back with more information
or a solution to the problem they had.
Jerry
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| Subject: | AD List, Off Topic |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Glenn Brasch" <gbrasch@earthlink.net>
I am thinking of picking up a puddle-jumper until I can get my RV in the air.
Does anyone know of a way to check AD's on-line for a particular aircraft. I
am not an A&P or AI and don't have access to their records. I have the make,
model and serial number of the aircraft I am interested in. Thanks in advance
and DO NOT ARCHIVE. Glenn in AZ.
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| Subject: | Re: AD List, Off Topic |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
AirWeb, FAA's web site, has ADs by make:
http://checkoway.com/url/?s=153b340
(that URL is just a shortened link...the actual URL is too long for email)
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (finish)
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn Brasch" <gbrasch@earthlink.net>
Subject: RV-List: AD List, Off Topic
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Glenn Brasch" <gbrasch@earthlink.net>
>
> I am thinking of picking up a puddle-jumper until I can get my RV in the
air. Does anyone know of a way to check AD's on-line for a particular
aircraft. I am not an A&P or AI and don't have access to their records. I
have the make, model and serial number of the aircraft I am interested in.
Thanks in advance and DO NOT ARCHIVE. Glenn in AZ.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Low and Slow |
--> RV-List message posted by: "RV_8 Pilot" <rv_8pilot@hotmail.com>
Since when is flying a privilege. People such as yourself who go around
spouting about flying being a privilege only reinforce the authoritarian
stance that flying is somehow not worthy of being considered a right.
Flying's as much a right as gun ownership and my reply to your comments.
BTW, lighten up on the caffeine, chief! I think the guy was just trying to
make a point about the style of flying.
Bryan Jones -8
Pearland, Texas
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>
>How stupid do you have to be to chase Elk for twenty minutes. That's
>called harassment of wildlife. Stresses them way to much. You should
>loose your flying privileges.THINK!!!! DO NOT make the flying community
>look bad.
>
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| Subject: | Re: AD List, Off Topic |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Glenn Brasch" <gbrasch@earthlink.net>
Thank you, I have found everything I need! Glenn in AZ Do Not Archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: AD List, Off Topic
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
>
> AirWeb, FAA's web site, has ADs by make:
>
> http://checkoway.com/url/?s=153b340
>
> (that URL is just a shortened link...the actual URL is too long for email)
>
> )_( Dan
> RV-7 N714D (finish)
> http://www.rvproject.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Glenn Brasch" <gbrasch@earthlink.net>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV-List: AD List, Off Topic
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Glenn Brasch" <gbrasch@earthlink.net>
> >
> > I am thinking of picking up a puddle-jumper until I can get my RV in the
> air. Does anyone know of a way to check AD's on-line for a particular
> aircraft. I am not an A&P or AI and don't have access to their records.
I
> have the make, model and serial number of the aircraft I am interested in.
> Thanks in advance and DO NOT ARCHIVE. Glenn in AZ.
> >
> >
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "j tramontano" <blueirocrt@hotmail.com>
Hi,
My name is Jeff and I am a future RV builder from NJ. I am a commercial
rated pilot building time and experience toward a professional aviation
career while I take distance-learning courses from Embry Riddle. I am
already chatting on the 8/8A list and am coming here for the broad spectrum.
My plans call for an RV-8 QB with some sort of alternative engine as a
major possibility. As I am 22 years old, I am going to build a budget fun
flyer as money allows and might be looking for a partner. To be honest the
plane will prob be like another girlfriend and I dont share my girlfriend
so thats prob not an option I would like. I am pretty set on the 8 with its
great fighter looks but like I said, its a budget project so if a cheaper
"lost interest" QB project comes along I would consider a 6 or 7. Right now
I am gathering information on the basics but am focusing on the engine
choice, as its the most expensive single part on the a/c. Right now I am on
the rotary turbo kick as I have been racing turbo cars for a few years now.
Sun n Fun sold me on the RV series and I am planning on taking the plunge
this summer.
Jeff
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| Subject: | Re: Dynon EFIS-D10 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Russ Werner" <russ@wernerworld.com>
I spoke with a VERY knowledgeable source at SNF and he indicated that the
Blue Mountain EFIS One is not independent of the GPS signal for attitude.
That, if true, is a serious thing that they are not mentioning/denying.
Lancair apparently has confirmed that the unit will lose attitude reference
with loss of GPS signals. Not good.
Maybe not a problem for some installations, but certainly for some it is.
Russ
HRII
Maui
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| Subject: | Re: Low and Slow |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dr. Leathers" <DrLeathers@822heal.com>
Well said, Bryan!!
I'm so sick of these pseudo-intellectual cretins telling others how to live.
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "RV_8 Pilot" <rv_8pilot@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Low and Slow
> --> RV-List message posted by: "RV_8 Pilot" <rv_8pilot@hotmail.com>
>
> Since when is flying a privilege. People such as yourself who go around
> spouting about flying being a privilege only reinforce the authoritarian
> stance that flying is somehow not worthy of being considered a right.
> Flying's as much a right as gun ownership and my reply to your comments.
>
> BTW, lighten up on the caffeine, chief! I think the guy was just trying
to
> make a point about the style of flying.
>
> Bryan Jones -8
> Pearland, Texas
> do not archive
>
> >
> >How stupid do you have to be to chase Elk for twenty minutes. That's
> >called harassment of wildlife. Stresses them way to much. You should
> >loose your flying privileges.THINK!!!! DO NOT make the flying community
> >look bad.
> >
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
Right, privledge, whatever........She was still correct about making
aviators look bad. Not cool. Use your head.....
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
2003 - The year of flight!
> -----Original Message-----
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dr. Leathers" <DrLeathers@822heal.com>
>
> Well said, Bryan!!
> I'm so sick of these pseudo-intellectual cretins telling
> others how to live.
>
> do not archive
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "RV_8 Pilot" <rv_8pilot@hotmail.com>
> >
> > Since when is flying a privilege. People such as yourself who go
> > around spouting about flying being a privilege only reinforce the
> > authoritarian stance that flying is somehow not worthy of being
> > considered a right. Flying's as much a right as gun
> ownership and my
> > reply to your comments.
> >
> > BTW, lighten up on the caffeine, chief! I think the guy was just
> > trying
> to
> > make a point about the style of flying.
> >
> > Bryan Jones -8
> > Pearland, Texas
> > do not archive
> >
> > >
> > >How stupid do you have to be to chase Elk for twenty
> minutes. That's
> > >called harassment of wildlife. Stresses them way to much.
> You should
> > >loose your flying privileges.THINK!!!! DO NOT make the flying
> > >community look bad.
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| Subject: | Re: Low and Slow |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Meketa" <acgm@gvtc.com>
Mary
It is not his fault. It is a guy thing and can not be explained.
In fact I chased down a stray balloon over San Antonio this weekend.
Cruising at 2500 feet msl and 170 knots the first one went by before
any action could be taken. Going on the offensive a formation of several
more were spotted up ahead. Zeroed in on one that was slightly out
of position and downed him with the prop on the first pass. I quickly
exited the area before his friends could get my "N" number. ATC never
knew what happened.
I am so bad.
"DO NOT ARCHIVE"
George Meketa
> How stupid do you have to be to chase Elk for twenty minutes. That's
> called harassment of wildlife. Stresses them way to much. You should
> loose your flying privileges.THINK!!!! DO NOT make the flying community
> look bad.
>
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| Subject: | Re: new kid here |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net>
Hi Jeff,
Welcome aboard and lots of good luck to you in your quest to build a damn
fine aircraft.
Twenty two and such good taste,.. Impressive!(;-)!
Jim in Kelowna
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----- Original Message -----
From: "j tramontano" <blueirocrt@hotmail.com>
Subject: RV-List: new kid here
> --> RV-List message posted by: "j tramontano" <blueirocrt@hotmail.com>
>
>
> Hi,
> My name is Jeff and I am a future RV builder from NJ. I am a commercial
> rated pilot building time and experience toward a professional aviation
> career while I take distance-learning courses from Embry Riddle. I am
> already chatting on the 8/8A list and am coming here for the broad
spectrum.
> My plans call for an RV-8 QB with some sort of alternative engine as a
> major possibility. As I am 22 years old, I am going to build a budget fun
> flyer as money allows and might be looking for a partner. To be honest the
> plane will prob be like another girlfriend and I dont share my girlfriend
> so thats prob not an option I would like. I am pretty set on the 8 with
its
> great fighter looks but like I said, its a budget project so if a cheaper
> "lost interest" QB project comes along I would consider a 6 or 7. Right
now
> I am gathering information on the basics but am focusing on the engine
> choice, as its the most expensive single part on the a/c. Right now I am
on
> the rotary turbo kick as I have been racing turbo cars for a few years
now.
> Sun n Fun sold me on the RV series and I am planning on taking the plunge
> this summer.
>
>
> Jeff
>
>
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| Subject: | Re:Low and slower |
--> RV-List message posted by: Warren W Hurd <warren@ahyup.com>
Hi Don,
I have never see a CH-701, however I did consider one before starting
the RV-9A.
Wife said no to the CH and she said yes to the RV. Do not ask me why.
http://www.ahyup.com/Decision.htm
If I were to build the the CH-701 I would use movable slats, not the
fixed ones.
http://www.dedaliusaviation.com/newdedalius/anglais.htm.
I bought the video. It looks like it would do a loop in a barn.
Warren
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