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1. 06:26 AM - Setting the mixture (was: Late reply to plane...) (Bill Dube)
2. 07:44 AM - Re: corrosion protection (DAVID REEL)
3. 09:05 AM - Looking for a RV-3A (rv6apjb)
4. 09:26 AM - Re: Looking for a RV-3A (Scott Bilinski)
5. 09:32 AM - MixtureCableRouting (DAVID REEL)
6. 09:40 AM - Re: Looking for Headset-Off Topic (Stanley Blanton)
7. 09:47 AM - Re: Looking for a RV-3A (Kyle Boatright)
8. 09:47 AM - Re: Looking for a RV-3A (Denis Walsh)
9. 09:59 AM - Re: MixtureCableRouting (Scott Brumbelow)
10. 10:03 AM - cables/wires/hose rubbing (Scott Bilinski)
11. 10:06 AM - Re: Looking for a RV-3A (Scott Bilinski)
12. 10:13 AM - Fw: RV and Rocket Fly-In DETAILS (Morocketman@aol.com)
13. 10:14 AM - Re: Looking for a RV-3A (Larry Pardue)
14. 10:14 AM - Re: Looking for a RV-3A (kempthornes)
15. 10:20 AM - Re: Looking for a RV-3A (Finn Lassen)
16. 10:40 AM - Re: Looking for a RV-3A (Laird Owens)
17. 11:47 AM - AFP fuel systems (Mlfred@aol.com)
18. 11:51 AM - Re: Re: Dynon EFIS-D10 (JRWillJR@aol.com)
19. 12:13 PM - Re: Fuel Tank Pressure Problem - Question to the group (P M Condon)
20. 12:54 PM - OT Windows (was: Dynon EFIS-D10) (Bill Dube)
21. 02:32 PM - Re: OT Windows (was: Dynon EFIS-D10) (Chris W)
22. 02:38 PM - EAA membership (Chris W)
23. 02:53 PM - Re: Re: Fuel Tank Pressure Problem - Question to the group (John Starn)
24. 03:04 PM - New kid & an RV (Rob W M Shipley)
25. 03:14 PM - need lock on slider canopy - any help (Jim Salyer)
26. 03:46 PM - Re: need lock on slider canopy - any help (Larry Pardue)
27. 03:48 PM - Australia: RV6 Parts Needed (IDAVANT)
28. 03:49 PM - Re: EAA membership (Konrad Werner)
29. 03:53 PM - Re: need lock on slider canopy - any help (Scott Bilinski)
30. 03:54 PM - Re: EAA membership (Bill Dube)
31. 03:54 PM - Re: need lock on slider canopy - any help (Richard Dudley)
32. 04:21 PM - Re: need lock on slider canopy - any help (Chris W)
33. 04:40 PM - Re: EAA membership (Gert)
34. 04:42 PM - Re: need lock on slider canopy - any help (Gert)
35. 04:46 PM - Re: New kid & an RV (Matthew Orr)
36. 04:49 PM - Re: EAA membership (Cy Galley)
37. 05:02 PM - Cellphone adaptor (Wheeler North)
38. 05:04 PM - can't resist (Wheeler North)
39. 05:09 PM - Re: EAA membership ()
40. 05:31 PM - Re: Setting the mixture (was: Late reply to plane...) (Alex Peterson)
41. 05:52 PM - Re: EAA membership (Jerry Springer)
42. 06:04 PM - Re: Alternative Engines (j tramontano)
43. 06:30 PM - Re: EAA membership (Chris W)
44. 06:31 PM - Re: EAA membership (kempthornes)
45. 07:04 PM - Re: EAA membership (Jerry Springer)
46. 07:10 PM - Re: Looking for a RV-3A (Joe Hine)
47. 07:21 PM - Re: EAA membership (Chris W)
48. 07:30 PM - Re: need lock on slider canopy - any help (Kyle Boatright)
49. 07:47 PM - Re: EAA membership (Jerry Springer)
50. 07:52 PM - Re: need lock on slider canopy - any help (Ed Holyoke)
51. 08:03 PM - Re: Alternative Engines (Rob Lasater)
52. 08:37 PM - Re: Looking for a RV-3A (Finn Lassen)
53. 08:49 PM - Re: Looking for a RV-3A (Jerry Springer)
54. 10:59 PM - Re: EAA membership (Vanremog@aol.com)
55. 11:26 PM - Re: Re: Fuel Tank Pressure Problem - Question to the group (George McNutt)
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| Subject: | Setting the mixture (was: Late reply to plane...) |
--> RV-List message posted by: Bill Dube <bdube@boulder.nist.gov>
This sort of mixture problem would probably not occur up here in the mile
high city. At sea level, the standard procedure is to set the engine full
rich for take-off and then twiddle with it a bit as you gain altitude. Up
here, you set the mixture for optimum power (using the tach) during the
run-up. My guess would be that this procedure might not be a bad idea at
sea level, especially for initial flight testing.
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| Subject: | Re: corrosion protection |
--> RV-List message posted by: "DAVID REEL" <dreel@cox.net>
A thick coat of primer will be heavy, but worst of all, will be prone to crack
with flexing and vibration. The paint manufacturer should specify optimum thickness
which you can measure by experiment with a micrometer until you can judge
it by eye. Sherwin Williams gave me a free thickness gauge which you press
into the wet coat and count the marks to tell how many mils thick the coat is.
If your thin spots are on interior alclad surfaces, I'd consider leaving it
alone as the cladding itself offers corrosion protection.
Dave Reel - RV8A
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| Subject: | Looking for a RV-3A |
--> RV-List message posted by: "rv6apjb" <rv6apjb@attbi.com>
I have a friend looking for a RV-3A to purchase.
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for a RV-3A |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
RV-3a.....................Are you sure? I have not heard of any 3's being
converting to a nose wheel.
At 09:04 AM 4/17/03 -0700, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "rv6apjb" <rv6apjb@attbi.com>
>
>I have a friend looking for a RV-3A to purchase.
>
>
Scott Bilinski
Eng dept 305
Phone (858) 657-2536
Pager (858) 502-5190
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| Subject: | MixtureCableRouting |
--> RV-List message posted by: "DAVID REEL" <dreel@cox.net>
Have other RV8A builders with O360A1A engines and Van's VA-149-360-PC cable mounting
bracket encountered potential/real problems routing their mixture control
cable? Here are my concerns.
1. The cable rests on the right side of the nosewheel support tube & there is
only 2 1/2" between this point and the start of the inflexible end fitting that
secures the cable to the carb mounting bracket. It appears that movement of
the engine relative to the nosewheel support tube will twist the carb mounting
bracket a lot and rub/slap the cable against the nosewheel support tube.
2. In making the bend to clear the firewall and get over to the left side firewall
penetration point, the cable presses pretty firmly against the engine mount
strut that runs from the top of the nosewheel support tube to the inboard bottom
left engine mount attach point. Another wear/flex point.
I'd like to hear what others have thought/done/observed along this cable route.
Dave Reel - RV8A
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| Subject: | Looking for Headset-Off Topic |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stanley Blanton" <stanb@door.net>
Glen,
I have two headsets I'm about to put on ebay.
One is a Telex Echelon that I won at a fly-in breakfast. It is lightly used.
Price - $ 50.00
The other is a Flightcom Nighthawk4DLX. It's very sligtly used also.
Price: - $ 75.00
I have girls 11 and 13 and both these headsets will fit them okay.
If you are interested let me know.
Stan Blanton
Lubbock, TX
RV-6
--> RV-List message posted by: "Glenn Brasch" <gbrasch@earthlink.net>
My 11 year old flying "partner" really wants his own set of headsets, but I
really don't want to spend a lot of money until he gets older. If anyone
has something inexpensive that would work for a child that they would like
to sell, please contact me off list. And sorry for the off topic. DO NOT
ARCHIVE Glenn in Arizona gbrasch@earthlink.net
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for a RV-3A |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright" <kyle.boatright@adelphia.net>
RV-3a refers to the latest revision in the wing.
KB
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Bilinski" <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Looking for a RV-3A
> --> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski
<bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
>
> RV-3a.....................Are you sure? I have not heard of any 3's being
> converting to a nose wheel.
>
> At 09:04 AM 4/17/03 -0700, you wrote:
> >--> RV-List message posted by: "rv6apjb" <rv6apjb@attbi.com>
> >
> >I have a friend looking for a RV-3A to purchase.
> >
> >
>
>
> Scott Bilinski
> Eng dept 305
> Phone (858) 657-2536
> Pager (858) 502-5190
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for a RV-3A |
--> RV-List message posted by: Denis Walsh <denis.walsh@attbi.com>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
>
> RV-3a.....................Are you sure? I have not heard of any 3's being
> converting to a nose wheel.
>
> At 09:04 AM 4/17/03 -0700, you wrote:
>> >--> RV-List message posted by: "rv6apjb" <rv6apjb@attbi.com>
>> >
>> >I have a friend looking for a RV-3A to purchase.
>> >
>> >
>
>
> Scott Bilinski
> Eng dept 305
> Phone (858) 657-2536
> Pager (858) 502-5190
>
Dear Scott,
The RV-3A is like all the others in the breed in that it is an improved
model. In this rare case; however, it is still a tail wheel airplane which
is good, since it is so beautiful.
Denis (RV-6A, six years old, and RV-3A dreamer)
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| Subject: | Re: MixtureCableRouting |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Brumbelow <csbrumbelow@fedex.com>
David - if I remember correctly, I ended up having to order a longer cable to get
the turns reasonable. It also sounds like you may have yours mounted lower
than I did mine. Regardless, I have no issues with either the turns or clearance
relative to the engine mount etc. I mounted my cables in a vertical row on
the left side of the firewall. Let me know if you would like me to email you
some pictures detailing.
Scott in MEM
RV-8A
Electrical [finally] complete and tested
DAVID REEL wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "DAVID REEL" <dreel@cox.net>
>
> Have other RV8A builders with O360A1A engines and Van's VA-149-360-PC cable mounting
bracket encountered potential/real problems routing their mixture control
cable? Here are my concerns.
> 1. The cable rests on the right side of the nosewheel support tube & there is
only 2 1/2" between this point and the start of the inflexible end fitting that
secures the cable to the carb mounting bracket. It appears that movement
of the engine relative to the nosewheel support tube will twist the carb mounting
bracket a lot and rub/slap the cable against the nosewheel support tube.
> 2. In making the bend to clear the firewall and get over to the left side firewall
penetration point, the cable presses pretty firmly against the engine mount
strut that runs from the top of the nosewheel support tube to the inboard
bottom left engine mount attach point. Another wear/flex point.
>
> I'd like to hear what others have thought/done/observed along this cable route.
>
> Dave Reel - RV8A
>
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| Subject: | cables/wires/hose rubbing |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
I am having issues with cables/wires/hose touching things. I would prefer
that all cables/wires/hose not touch anything but this is not always the
case. So what is the "rule" for a hose/cable/wire, touching/rubbing on
something. For me, I try to not have anything touch anything. I have even
covered wires with fire sleeve for protection.
Any advice would be helpful.
At 11:37 AM 4/17/03 -0400, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "DAVID REEL" <dreel@cox.net>
>
>Have other RV8A builders with O360A1A engines and Van's VA-149-360-PC cable
>mounting bracket encountered potential/real problems routing their mixture
>control cable? Here are my concerns.
>1. The cable rests on the right side of the nosewheel support tube & there
>is only 2 1/2" between this point and the start of the inflexible end
>fitting that secures the cable to the carb mounting bracket. It appears
>that movement of the engine relative to the nosewheel support tube will
>twist the carb mounting bracket a lot and rub/slap the cable against the
>nosewheel support tube.
>2. In making the bend to clear the firewall and get over to the left side
>firewall penetration point, the cable presses pretty firmly against the
>engine mount strut that runs from the top of the nosewheel support tube to
>the inboard bottom left engine mount attach point. Another wear/flex point.
>
>I'd like to hear what others have thought/done/observed along this cable
route.
>
>Dave Reel - RV8A
>
>
Scott Bilinski
Eng dept 305
Phone (858) 657-2536
Pager (858) 502-5190
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for a RV-3A |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
Learn something new everday! So what are the improvements?
At 10:47 AM 4/17/03 -0600, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Denis Walsh <denis.walsh@attbi.com>
>
>> --> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski
<bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
>>
>> RV-3a.....................Are you sure? I have not heard of any 3's being
>> converting to a nose wheel.
>>
>> At 09:04 AM 4/17/03 -0700, you wrote:
>>> >--> RV-List message posted by: "rv6apjb" <rv6apjb@attbi.com>
>>> >
>>> >I have a friend looking for a RV-3A to purchase.
>>> >
>>> >
>>
>>
>> Scott Bilinski
>> Eng dept 305
>> Phone (858) 657-2536
>> Pager (858) 502-5190
>>
>
>Dear Scott,
>
>The RV-3A is like all the others in the breed in that it is an improved
>model. In this rare case; however, it is still a tail wheel airplane which
>is good, since it is so beautiful.
>
>
>Denis (RV-6A, six years old, and RV-3A dreamer)
>
>
Scott Bilinski
Eng dept 305
Phone (858) 657-2536
Pager (858) 502-5190
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| Subject: | Fwd: RV and Rocket Fly-In DETAILS |
--> RV-List message posted by: Morocketman@aol.com
From: Lwfeatherston@aol.com
Subject: Fwd: RV and Rocket Fly-In DETAILS
From: Lwfeatherston@aol.com
Subject: Fwd: RV and Rocket Fly-In DETAILS
Thank you Greg!
Thank you Greg!
From: Morocketman@aol.com
Subject: Fwd: RV and Rocket Fly-In
From: Lwfeatherston@aol.com
Subject: Fwd: RV and Rocket Fly-In
From: Lwfeatherston@aol.com
Subject: Fwd: RV and Rocket Fly-In
From: Lwfeatherston@aol.com
morocketman@aol.com
Subject: RV and Rocket Fly-In
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for a RV-3A |
--> RV-List message posted by: Larry Pardue <n5lp@carlsbad.net>
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
>
>RV-3a.....................Are you sure? I have not heard of any 3's being
>converting to a nose wheel.
>
>At 09:04 AM 4/17/03 -0700, you wrote:
>>--> RV-List message posted by: "rv6apjb" <rv6apjb@attbi.com>
>>
>>I have a friend looking for a RV-3A to purchase.
>>
I have not heard of any 3's being converted to nose wheel either. There
is however an RV-3A and it is desirable if you are getting a 3. The A in
this case refers to spar changes.
Do not archive
Larry Pardue
Carlsbad, NM
RV-6 N441LP Flying
http://www.carlsbadnm.com/n5lp/index.htm
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for a RV-3A |
--> RV-List message posted by: kempthornes <kempthornes@earthlink.net>
Have you looked at the one in San Luis Obispo, CA? In TAP, I believe.
do not archive
K. H. (Hal) Kempthorne
RV6-a N7HK flying!
PRB (El Paso de Robles, CA)
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for a RV-3A |
--> RV-List message posted by: Finn Lassen <finnlassen@netzero.net>
A in RV-3A, unlike all the other RV series, doesn't mean nosewheel.
Means it's had certain mods made to make it Aerobatic. After early wing
failues (pulling high Gs), rear spar attachments were reinforced, and
inboard ribs made stronger (1980's I think).
Don't know any suffic for the later (l990's) spar strengthing mods.
The new/current RV-3B has completely redesigned and premanufactured spars.
Finn
Denis Walsh wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Denis Walsh <denis.walsh@attbi.com>
>
>
>
>>--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
>>
>>RV-3a.....................Are you sure? I have not heard of any 3's being
>>converting to a nose wheel.
>>
>>At 09:04 AM 4/17/03 -0700, you wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>--> RV-List message posted by: "rv6apjb" <rv6apjb@attbi.com>
>>>>
>>>>I have a friend looking for a RV-3A to purchase.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>Scott Bilinski
>>Eng dept 305
>>Phone (858) 657-2536
>>Pager (858) 502-5190
>>
>>
>>
>
>Dear Scott,
>
>The RV-3A is like all the others in the breed in that it is an improved
>model. In this rare case; however, it is still a tail wheel airplane which
>is good, since it is so beautiful.
>
>
>Denis (RV-6A, six years old, and RV-3A dreamer)
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for a RV-3A |
--> RV-List message posted by: Laird Owens <owens@aerovironment.com>
Scott,
If I recall correctly, the "A" designation on a RV-3 refers to the
fix of the rear spar attachment (from a simple overlap to double
shear). A "B" designation refers to the main spar fix, which
involves adding anti buckling angles on the back of the spar caps
(which removes the 4.1g limitation).
Laird RV-6
WHP
>--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
>
>RV-3a.....................Are you sure? I have not heard of any 3's being
>converting to a nose wheel.
>
>At 09:04 AM 4/17/03 -0700, you wrote:
>>--> RV-List message posted by: "rv6apjb" <rv6apjb@attbi.com>
>>
>>I have a friend looking for a RV-3A to purchase.
>>
>>
>
>
>Scott Bilinski
>Eng dept 305
>Phone (858) 657-2536
>Pager (858) 502-5190
>
>
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| Subject: | AFP fuel systems |
--> RV-List message posted by: Mlfred@aol.com
Time: 05:21:09 PM PST US
From: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@usjet.net>
Subject: RE: RV-List: Late reply to plane new RV with apparently poor
power.
--> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@usjet.net>
> I have not even started my engine yet, but I have read the
> manual for AFP. In it, it tells you how to set the mixture
> and what kind of RPM drop you should expect. Did the people
> who had problems add the system themselves or get it pre
> installed from the engine builder and (hopefully) adjust
> correctly by the builder.
>
>
This is the procedure for setting idle mixture!!!! It will not affect
operations above something like 1/4 throttle. Presumably, the plane
with climb problems wasn't at 1/4 throttle (or that would explain a
lot). Maximum fuel flows at higher throttle settings is determined by
components in the guts of the system, and is not field adjustable on the
AFP system. I suspect this is the same on Bendix.
Alex Peterson
Maple Grove, MN
RV6-A N66AP 291 hours
www.rvforum.org
www.usfamily.net/web/alexpeterson
Listers:
Not to be too argumentative,...
The AFP system is superior to the Bendix design in many aspects. One aspect
is field adjustability of its flow parameters. The orfices in the injectors
are changeable, as are later Bendix systems. The main jet in the throttle
body is also changeable, much the same as a carb jet is.
Black smoke at start-up means very little -- probably overprimed. No worries.
Set your system for the correct RPM rise at idle, and the idle mixture is set
correctly. If you DON'T get the correct rise due to a LEAN idle mixture (zero
rise), you can expect the engine to quit on final, but you won't know it (re:
Doug R's B-25 tale yesterday). Bennair, dunnatt, no T shirt available...
The 100+ page manual (!) you get with your AFP system has a chart indicating
the calibrated, and tested, fuel flow curve, and which jet is installed in
that S/N throttle body. It's in your best interest to make sure this curve
matches your engine model.
(Shameless commercial plug here:)
I sell the AFP systems, and I also run them on my ships. Good stuff.
Cheers!
Mark
Team Rocket LP
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| Subject: | Re: Dynon EFIS-D10 |
--> RV-List message posted by: JRWillJR@aol.com
The GRT is not Windows based. My Dell is and I would not trade it for a Mac.
Do Not Archive. JR
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Tank Pressure Problem - Question to the group |
--> RV-List message posted by: P M Condon <pcondon@mitre.org>
I need some help from the group on a fuel tank "observation" I had last
night. The Temp was hovering around 89 degrees in the hanger and the
fuel in my tank was being cooked at this temp. in my enclosed hanger.
After work, around 6:00 pm, still warm in the hanger, I opened the fuel
cap and heard a "whoosh" like the tank was under pressure. ??? I
scratched my head, then went to the air supply I have at the hanger and
blew some air into my belly vent for that tank. I got some "girgling"
noises from the two foot loop we all have in the vent system, and when
the "girgling noise stopped, there was air flowing into the tank.
QUestion....if my vent was clear(ecept for the fuel in the line), why
did I have a pressure "whoosh" noise when I opened the fuel cap ? BTW
the fuel cap is rather tight and the Andair fuel selector is turned to
the (both) off position. Is this condition normal ?
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| Subject: | OT Windows (was: Dynon EFIS-D10) |
--> RV-List message posted by: Bill Dube <bdube@boulder.nist.gov>
At 12:50 PM 4/17/2003, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: JRWillJR@aol.com
>
>The GRT is not Windows based. My Dell is and I would not trade it for a Mac.
If Bill Gates had a nickel for every time Windows crashed.... Wait
a minute... He does!
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| Subject: | Re: OT Windows (was: Dynon EFIS-D10) |
--> RV-List message posted by: Chris W <chrisw3@cox.net>
Bill Dube wrote:
> >--> RV-List message posted by: JRWillJR@aol.com
> >
> >The GRT is not Windows based. My Dell is and I would not trade it for a Mac.
>
> If Bill Gates had a nickel for every time Windows crashed.... Wait
> a minute... He does!
Not even Bill Gates has that much money!
do not archive
--
Chris Woodhouse
3147 SW 127th St.
Oklahoma City, OK 73170
405-691-5206
chrisw@programmer.net
N35 20.492'
W97 34.342'
"They that can give up essential liberty
to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Historical Review of Pennsylvania
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--> RV-List message posted by: Chris W <chrisw3@cox.net>
Let me start of with do not archive these rantings.
I have been a member of the EAA for about a day and am already very
irritated. First I sign up and they can't even give me my member
number. Today I get my member number via email and several hours later
I still can't log in to the member section of the web site. I am a
computer programer and have done some web development (as if that is any
different than any other type of programming) and there is no reason why
all this can't happen instantly (more or less anyway). Also, just as a
web user, I have paid for several online services and have always had
immediate access to those services. It is so irritating when people
spend so much time and money to do things that the computer sitting in
front of them can do instantly and automaticly. Ok I'm through ranting
now.
--
Chris Woodhouse
3147 SW 127th St.
Oklahoma City, OK 73170
405-691-5206
chrisw@programmer.net
N35 20.492'
W97 34.342'
"They that can give up essential liberty
to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Historical Review of Pennsylvania
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Tank Pressure Problem - Question to the group |
--> RV-List message posted by: "John Starn" <jhstarn@earthlink.net>
Do Not Archive. Being an old plumber it sounds like you have a "P" trap in
the vent line and it had trapped liquid in the lower loop. The girgle sound
was that of the liquid being pushed back into the tank but just enough to
give the air a clear path. Once the vent line goes up from the tank it
should only made one bend down toward the exterior vent fitting. IF yours
has something that looks like an "S" and goes back up and then down, you
have created a trap. It works just like the "P" traps under your sinks. Hope
this helps. The real problem COULD be that IF the fuel residue (that gummy
stuff left when fuel evaporates) that will gather in the vent tube plugs it
up solid. IF that happens it will slow and then stop fuel flow from that
tank. KABONG
----- Original Message -----
From: "P M Condon" <pcondon@mitre.org>
Subject: RV-List: Re: Fuel Tank Pressure Problem - Question to the group
> --> RV-List message posted by: P M Condon <pcondon@mitre.org>
>
> I need some help from the group on a fuel tank "observation" I had last
> night. The Temp was hovering around 89 degrees in the hanger and the
> fuel in my tank was being cooked at this temp. in my enclosed hanger.
> After work, around 6:00 pm, still warm in the hanger, I opened the fuel
> cap and heard a "whoosh" like the tank was under pressure. ??? I
> scratched my head, then went to the air supply I have at the hanger and
> blew some air into my belly vent for that tank. I got some "girgling"
> noises from the two foot loop we all have in the vent system, and when
> the "girgling noise stopped, there was air flowing into the tank.
>
> QUestion....if my vent was clear(ecept for the fuel in the line), why
> did I have a pressure "whoosh" noise when I opened the fuel cap ? BTW
> the fuel cap is rather tight and the Andair fuel selector is turned to
> the (both) off position. Is this condition normal ?
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Rob W M Shipley" <Rob@RobsGlass.com>
Hi Jeff,
Don't be put off by the naysayers who tell you that RVs cost $60,000 - $100,000.
They certainly can but mine will be under $30,000 when ready to fly, (at least
that's what I've been telling Steffie!).
Do your own math. The airframe will run about $16 - 18,000. (You could probably
discount this by looking for an incomplete project that is up for sale. Paint
it yourself and put in basic VFR avionics and use a mid time or alternative,
(talk to Tracy Crook), engine with a wood prop and you'll come in close to
$30,000. Bear in mind that the expensive ones usually have much of their cost
in the panel and paint.
I would strongly suggest that if you really want to fly as distinct from wanting
to build you concentrate on avoiding extra gimmicks and custom touches. These
are nice to have but add lots of extra time to the project.
The other possibility is to share the project with another pilot. (I know - no
girlfriend sharing!!!) But if you do make sure you have a formal and clearly
defined agreement in case one of you either wants to, or has to, opt out at some
point.
Good luck and welcome to the world of affordable performance aircraft.
Rob
Rob W M Shipley
RV9A N919RV Fuselage.
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| Subject: | need lock on slider canopy - any help |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jim Salyer <jimsalyer@cfu.net>
The way these radios are costing, I would like to put some kind of
locking system on a sliding canopy.....ANY HELP!!
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| Subject: | Re: need lock on slider canopy - any help |
--> RV-List message posted by: Larry Pardue <n5lp@carlsbad.net>
>--> RV-List message posted by: Jim Salyer <jimsalyer@cfu.net>
>
>The way these radios are costing, I would like to put some kind of
>locking system on a sliding canopy.....ANY HELP!!
>
No, I'm sorry, but I do have some thoughts.
It is very easy to lock a tipup and I have that provision on mine. But I
have never used it, even parked in the open in Southern California (no
offense).
My thought is, would I rather be upset by losing some radios or would I
rather be really really upset by losing some radios and having a broken
canopy on top of that? I have decided the former is preferable.
How much trouble is a lock, really, to the thief?
On the other hand, I do use a canopy cover and think that might help
prevent a theft, a bit. Sort of "out of sight, out of mind."
Larry Pardue
Carlsbad, NM
RV-6 N441LP Flying
http://www.carlsbadnm.com/n5lp/index.htm
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| Subject: | Australia: RV6 Parts Needed |
--> RV-List message posted by: "IDAVANT" <ginnwj@optushome.com.au>
Wanted: RV6/A parts or kits.
Reply to:
Bill
ginnwj@hotmail.com
Sydney Australia
Do Not Archive
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| Subject: | Re: EAA membership |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Konrad Werner" <Connywerner@wans.net>
Dear Chris,
Chill out & Slow down!
These are not the worst things yet that EAA-Membership could have in store
for you.
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris W" <chrisw3@cox.net>
Subject: RV-List: EAA membership
> --> RV-List message posted by: Chris W <chrisw3@cox.net>
>
> Let me start of with do not archive these rantings.
>
> I have been a member of the EAA for about a day and am already very
> irritated. First I sign up and they can't even give me my member
> number. Today I get my member number via email and several hours later
> I still can't log in to the member section of the web site. I am a
> computer programer and have done some web development (as if that is any
> different than any other type of programming) and there is no reason why
> all this can't happen instantly (more or less anyway). Also, just as a
> web user, I have paid for several online services and have always had
> immediate access to those services. It is so irritating when people
> spend so much time and money to do things that the computer sitting in
> front of them can do instantly and automaticly. Ok I'm through ranting
> now.
>
> --
> Chris Woodhouse
> 3147 SW 127th St.
> Oklahoma City, OK 73170
> 405-691-5206
> chrisw@programmer.net
> N35 20.492'
> W97 34.342'
>
> "They that can give up essential liberty
> to obtain a little temporary safety
> deserve neither liberty nor safety."
> -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Historical Review of Pennsylvania
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: need lock on slider canopy - any help |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
Which plane? I am going to come up with something for my 8. I am planning
on something very discrete and will not be noticeable. But, as mentioned
before if somebody wants in, whats to stop them? A spindley little locking
mechanism will just slow them down a few minutes and they could possibly
tear up the canopy to get in. There again install the panel and instruments
with some bizarre type screw. Now that I thought of it I am going to look
into this.
At 05:12 PM 4/17/03 -0500, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Jim Salyer <jimsalyer@cfu.net>
>
>The way these radios are costing, I would like to put some kind of
>locking system on a sliding canopy.....ANY HELP!!
>
>
Scott Bilinski
Eng dept 305
Phone (858) 657-2536
Pager (858) 502-5190
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| Subject: | Re: EAA membership |
--> RV-List message posted by: Bill Dube <bdube@boulder.nist.gov>
>Today I get my member number via email and several hours later
>I still can't log in to the member section of the web site. I am a
>computer programer and have done some web development (as if that is any
>different than any other type of programming) and there is no reason why
>all this can't happen instantly (more or less anyway).
I would suggest that you volunteer to help get their computer
stuff running efficiently. Keep in mind that the EAA is mostly volunteers.
I'm reminded of the cowboy cattle drive rule "If you complain
about the cooking, then you become the new cook."
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| Subject: | Re: need lock on slider canopy - any help |
--> RV-List message posted by: Richard Dudley <rhdudley@att.net>
Jim,
ACS sells a lock that can be installed in your sliding canopy. They sell
it separately or as a part of a package including an keyswitch
ignition/starter lock. The keys work in both. See page 381 in the
2002-2003 ACS catalog. Van's sells the combination as ES-A-510-2K.
Regards,
Richard Dudley
-6A engine baffles
Jim Salyer wrote:
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Jim Salyer <jimsalyer@cfu.net>
>
> The way these radios are costing, I would like to put some kind of
> locking system on a sliding canopy.....ANY HELP!!
>
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| Subject: | Re: need lock on slider canopy - any help |
--> RV-List message posted by: Chris W <chrisw3@cox.net>
Scott Bilinski wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
>
> Which plane? I am going to come up with something for my 8. I am planning
> on something very discrete and will not be noticeable. But, as mentioned
> before if somebody wants in, whats to stop them? A spindley little locking
> mechanism will just slow them down a few minutes and they could possibly
> tear up the canopy to get in. There again install the panel and instruments
> with some bizarre type screw. Now that I thought of it I am going to look
> into this.
Tamper resistant torx or tamper resistant hex socket. You can get them both at
www.mcmaster.com (page 2915 of the online catalog) and the tools to put them in.
And they are a lot easier to drive and extract than phillips or flat head
screws. The only disadvantage is they only come in button head. I would like
to
use flat head.
--
Chris Woodhouse
3147 SW 127th St.
Oklahoma City, OK 73170
405-691-5206
chrisw@programmer.net
N35 20.492'
W97 34.342'
"They that can give up essential liberty
to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Historical Review of Pennsylvania
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| Subject: | Re: EAA membership |
--> RV-List message posted by: Gert <gert@execpc.com>
Chris W wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Chris W <chrisw3@cox.net>
>
> Let me start of with do not archive these rantings.
>
> I have been a member of the EAA for about a day and am already very
> irritated. First I sign up and they can't even give me my member
> number. Today I get my member number via email and several hours later
> I still can't log in to the member section of the web site. I am a
> computer programer and have done some web development (as if that is any
> different than any other type of programming) and there is no reason why
> all this can't happen instantly (more or less anyway).
And how many tries did you have before YOU got YOUR programming
right....Like you I have developed many programs as well as websites.
Not all give immidiate access.
As others pointed out, if this is the worst the EAA does for you.....
Also, just as a
> web user, I have paid for several online services and have always had
> immediate access to those services. It is so irritating when people
> spend so much time and money to do things that the computer sitting in
> front of them can do instantly and automaticly. Ok I'm through ranting
> now.
>
> --
> Chris Woodhouse
> 3147 SW 127th St.
> Oklahoma City, OK 73170
> 405-691-5206
> chrisw@programmer.net
> N35 20.492'
> W97 34.342'
>
> "They that can give up essential liberty
> to obtain a little temporary safety
> deserve neither liberty nor safety."
> -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Historical Review of Pennsylvania
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
--
is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500
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| Subject: | Re: need lock on slider canopy - any help |
--> RV-List message posted by: Gert <gert@execpc.com>
This of course could be a moot point if all airplanes are maybe going to
be required to be dual locked. e.g. an entry lock and a ignition lock.
Scott Bilinski wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
>
> Which plane? I am going to come up with something for my 8. I am planning
> on something very discrete and will not be noticeable. But, as mentioned
> before if somebody wants in, whats to stop them? A spindley little locking
> mechanism will just slow them down a few minutes and they could possibly
> tear up the canopy to get in. There again install the panel and instruments
> with some bizarre type screw. Now that I thought of it I am going to look
> into this.
>
>
> At 05:12 PM 4/17/03 -0500, you wrote:
>
>>--> RV-List message posted by: Jim Salyer <jimsalyer@cfu.net>
>>
>>The way these radios are costing, I would like to put some kind of
>>locking system on a sliding canopy.....ANY HELP!!
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> Scott Bilinski
> Eng dept 305
> Phone (858) 657-2536
> Pager (858) 502-5190
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
--
is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500
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| Subject: | Re: New kid & an RV |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Matthew Orr" <morr@vt.edu>
Another way to think about the RV project is that you can build it in
stages. I'm a 25 year old graduate student who has been doing the majority
of building in my apartment. A friend (27 year old RV-8 QB builder) has let
me borrow tools and use his shop on the weekends to do all of the noisy
work. I've completed an RV-7 VS, HS, rudder, and I'm putting the finishing
touches on the elevators. I started working in February 2003 and I've put
in ~175 hours of hands on work so far.
As a student you probably don't have much cash but a tail can be built for
about $1800. This is if you can find someone willing to help and loan you
some tools and purchase only the most basic consumables (cordless drill,
bits, deburring tools, etc.). By the time you complete the fairly cheap
parts of the airframe you'll likely have a job and be able to afford the
more expensive things. If you don't start you will never even have a chance
of finishing. I only wished I'd started earlier.
Plus once you start the tail you are emotionally committed to the other
99%....
Good Luck,
Matt
RV-7 (tail and waiting to graduate for a QB, engine etc.)
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: EAA membership |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
The instructions are very simple...
NOTE NEW LOGIN FORMAT
Current EAA member
Enter your Last Name and EAA Member Number. Your EAA Member Number is
your EAA member number found on your membership card. (Do NOT use beginning
'zeros' or letters)
Cookies must be enabled in order to enter
I just logged on to make sure it wasn't down. I will forward your complaint
to Headquarters and see what they can do. It is frustrating when things
don't work as they are supposed to.
If you still have a problem tomorrow, let me know and I will phone and make
sure that it is fixed. I am not sure if they are open on Good Friday, but I
have some private numbers which will get me thru.
Cy Galley
Editor, EAA Safety Programs
cgalley@qcbc.org or experimenter@eaa.org
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris W" <chrisw3@cox.net>
Subject: RV-List: EAA membership
> --> RV-List message posted by: Chris W <chrisw3@cox.net>
>
> Let me start of with do not archive these rantings.
>
> I have been a member of the EAA for about a day and am already very
> irritated. First I sign up and they can't even give me my member
> number. Today I get my member number via email and several hours later
> I still can't log in to the member section of the web site. I am a
> computer programer and have done some web development (as if that is any
> different than any other type of programming) and there is no reason why
> all this can't happen instantly (more or less anyway). Also, just as a
> web user, I have paid for several online services and have always had
> immediate access to those services. It is so irritating when people
> spend so much time and money to do things that the computer sitting in
> front of them can do instantly and automaticly. Ok I'm through ranting
> now.
>
> --
> Chris Woodhouse
> 3147 SW 127th St.
> Oklahoma City, OK 73170
> 405-691-5206
> chrisw@programmer.net
> N35 20.492'
> W97 34.342'
>
> "They that can give up essential liberty
> to obtain a little temporary safety
> deserve neither liberty nor safety."
> -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Historical Review of Pennsylvania
>
>
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| Subject: | Cellphone adaptor |
--> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us>
Here is a website that I just put up that has a small circuit one can use to
make a plugin connector to wire your cellphone audio/mic I/O into your
intercom.
Seems to work in my plane, but I haven't tested it in the air yet. (darned
rain clouds, there's been two of them so far this week)
http://www.miramarcollege.net/programs/avim/faculty/north/cell/
w
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--> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us>
last bird to hit my plate glass door over G'd. It didn't even flop around
much for the kitties.
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| Subject: | Re: EAA membership |
--> RV-List message posted by: <ktlkrn@cox.net>
Did I miss something? Was there an urgency to get on line with EAA today?
Relax, no Mountain Dew or coffee for 24 hours, try again in the morning.
Darwin N. Barrie
Chandler AZ
> Let me start of with do not archive these rantings.
>
> I have been a member of the EAA for about a day and am already very
> irritated. First I sign up and they can't even give me my member
> number.
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| Subject: | Setting the mixture (was: Late reply to plane...) |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@usjet.net>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Bill Dube <bdube@boulder.nist.gov>
>
> This sort of mixture problem would probably not occur
> up here in the mile
> high city. At sea level, the standard procedure is to set the
> engine full
> rich for take-off and then twiddle with it a bit as you gain
> altitude. Up
> here, you set the mixture for optimum power (using the tach)
> during the
> run-up. My guess would be that this procedure might not be a
> bad idea at
> sea level, especially for initial flight testing.
Leaning before takeoff is what I learned also when I learned to fly in
Colorado. However, this is not a good procedure for sea level full
power operations. There are specific reasons for overly rich mixtures
at full power. One main reason for the excessively (relative to ideal
fuel/air ratio) rich mixtures at power settings above about 75% power is
to modify the flame propogation behavior, which minimizes the chances
for detonation. Additionally, the extra fuel causes lower engine temps,
but lack of high CHT's is no reason to lean when at high power settings.
Alex Peterson
Maple Grove, MN
RV6-A N66AP 291 hours
www.rvforum.org
www.usfamily.net/web/alexpeterson
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| Subject: | Re: EAA membership |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
If a little tiny thing like that frustrates you are you sure you are
up to building an airplane.
Jerry
do not archive
--------------------
Chris W wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Chris W <chrisw3@cox.net>
>
> Let me start of with do not archive these rantings.
>
> I have been a member of the EAA for about a day and am already very
> irritated. First I sign up and they can't even give me my member
> number. Today I get my member number via email and several hours later
> I still can't log in to the member section of the web site. I am a
> computer programer and have done some web development (as if that is any
> different than any other type of programming) and there is no reason why
> all this can't happen instantly (more or less anyway). Also, just as a
> web user, I have paid for several online services and have always had
> immediate access to those services. It is so irritating when people
> spend so much time and money to do things that the computer sitting in
> front of them can do instantly and automaticly. Ok I'm through ranting
> now.
>
> --
> Chris Woodhouse
> 3147 SW 127th St.
> Oklahoma City, OK 73170
> 405-691-5206
> chrisw@programmer.net
> N35 20.492'
> W97 34.342'
>
> "They that can give up essential liberty
> to obtain a little temporary safety
> deserve neither liberty nor safety."
> -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Historical Review of Pennsylvania
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Alternative Engines |
--> RV-List message posted by: "j tramontano" <blueirocrt@hotmail.com>
That was a confusing reply with the info on the Air Force. And who is tracy?
I got advice on why I should not buy a plane and what to do with my career:)
Well its too late to get the government to pay for my ratings as I have
everything I need sans the ATP and the various CFI's. Plus the Air Force has
this problem with people and vision correction that the airlines dont care
about. I would give up quite a bit for a Strike Eagle slot but that isnt
going to happen. Whats the next best thing to a F-15....a P51$$$.....how
about a RV8!!!! I would like to complete one for under 35k and belive its
possible as I am not building an IFR show plane. The engine choice is due to
cost issues all around. Cheaper now, cheaper in the future for work and
rebuild, cheaper when 100LL is phased out. I have plenty of friends my age
who are financing $35k cars for five years. My car is paid off and I live
with the rents:) I almost bought a 68 Cherokee 140 for $28k. It was slow,
old, ugly, dirty, smelled funny, paint horrible, ancient panel but with a
new motor and prop. Not a good deal. Since I am new to the list i see people
are notating do not archive when its a discussion like this so here it goes
Jeff
Do Not Archive
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| Subject: | Re: EAA membership |
--> RV-List message posted by: Chris W <chrisw3@cox.net>
This is a huge pet peeve of mine. You have to look at it from my perspective
I know just how easy it is to do it right. And it doesn't take thousands of
dollars of software and hardware or thousands of man hours to do it right.
It is really much easier than most people realize. It's kind of like this
job a friend of mine had where she was paid to read computer printouts and
type the data into a computer, how idiotic can you get?!?!
Chris W
ktlkrn@cox.net wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: <ktlkrn@cox.net>
>
> Did I miss something? Was there an urgency to get on line with EAA today?
> Relax, no Mountain Dew or coffee for 24 hours, try again in the morning.
>
> Darwin N. Barrie
> Chandler AZ
>
> > Let me start of with do not archive these rantings.
> >
> > I have been a member of the EAA for about a day and am already very
> > irritated. First I sign up and they can't even give me my member
> > number.
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| Subject: | Re: EAA membership |
--> RV-List message posted by: kempthornes <kempthornes@earthlink.net>
At 04:38 PM 4/17/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Chris W <chrisw3@cox.net>
>
>Let me start of with do not archive these rantings.
>
>I have been a member of the EAA for about a day and am already very
>irritated.
As a former professional programmer with Sun Microsystems, let me make this
suggestion to you :
Get a life.
And, no, web programming is about as easy as programming gets. Get into
systems and network programming (sockets, arp, and all) and you'll begin to
see some of the reason why some things take a few more cycles.
K. H. (Hal) Kempthorne
820 Jackson Drive
Paso Robles, CA 93446-1812
805.239.8112
805.674.5140 Cell
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| Subject: | Re: EAA membership |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
It is also pretty easy to put a do not archive to these kinds of rants.
"It is really much easier than most people realize."
Jerry
-------------------------------------------------
Chris W wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Chris W <chrisw3@cox.net>
>
> This is a huge pet peeve of mine. You have to look at it from my perspective
> I know just how easy it is to do it right. And it doesn't take thousands of
> dollars of software and hardware or thousands of man hours to do it right.
> It is really much easier than most people realize. It's kind of like this
> job a friend of mine had where she was paid to read computer printouts and
> type the data into a computer, how idiotic can you get?!?!
>
> Chris W
>
> ktlkrn@cox.net wrote:
>
>
>>--> RV-List message posted by: <ktlkrn@cox.net>
>>
>>Did I miss something? Was there an urgency to get on line with EAA today?
>>Relax, no Mountain Dew or coffee for 24 hours, try again in the morning.
>>
>>Darwin N. Barrie
>>Chandler AZ
>>
>>
>>>Let me start of with do not archive these rantings.
>>>
>>>I have been a member of the EAA for about a day and am already very
>>>irritated. First I sign up and they can't even give me my member
>>>number.
>>
>
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| Subject: | Looking for a RV-3A |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Joe Hine" <joehine@rogers.com>
-Hi Guys
I think also the a model has wing tanks and the early 3 had fuselage tank
above your legs.
Joe Hine
RV4 C-FYTQ
--> RV-List message posted by: Laird Owens <owens@aerovironment.com>
Scott,
If I recall correctly, the "A" designation on a RV-3 refers to the
fix of the rear spar attachment (from a simple overlap to double
shear). A "B" designation refers to the main spar fix, which
involves adding anti buckling angles on the back of the spar caps
(which removes the 4.1g limitation).
Laird RV-6
WHP
>--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski
<bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
>
>RV-3a.....................Are you sure? I have not heard of any 3's being
>converting to a nose wheel.
>
>At 09:04 AM 4/17/03 -0700, you wrote:
>>--> RV-List message posted by: "rv6apjb" <rv6apjb@attbi.com>
>>
>>I have a friend looking for a RV-3A to purchase.
>>
>>
>
>
>Scott Bilinski
>Eng dept 305
>Phone (858) 657-2536
>Pager (858) 502-5190
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: EAA membership |
--> RV-List message posted by: Chris W <chrisw3@cox.net>
If you took the time to look carefully you would see that there is a do not archive
in there.
Jerry Springer wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
>
> It is also pretty easy to put a do not archive to these kinds of rants.
> "It is really much easier than most people realize."
>
> Jerry
> -------------------------------------------------
> Chris W wrote:
> > --> RV-List message posted by: Chris W <chrisw3@cox.net>
> >
> > This is a huge pet peeve of mine. You have to look at it from my perspective
> > I know just how easy it is to do it right. And it doesn't take thousands of
> > dollars of software and hardware or thousands of man hours to do it right.
> > It is really much easier than most people realize. It's kind of like this
> > job a friend of mine had where she was paid to read computer printouts and
> > type the data into a computer, how idiotic can you get?!?!
> >
> > Chris W
> >
> > ktlkrn@cox.net wrote:
> >
> >
> >>--> RV-List message posted by: <ktlkrn@cox.net>
> >>
> >>Did I miss something? Was there an urgency to get on line with EAA today?
> >>Relax, no Mountain Dew or coffee for 24 hours, try again in the morning.
> >>
> >>Darwin N. Barrie
> >>Chandler AZ
> >>
> >>
> >>>Let me start of with do not archive these rantings.
> >>>
> >>>I have been a member of the EAA for about a day and am already very
> >>>irritated. First I sign up and they can't even give me my member
> >>>number.
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| Subject: | Re: need lock on slider canopy - any help |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright" <kyle.boatright@adelphia.net>
On George Orndorff's RV-6 video series, he installs a lock on a -6 slider.
If you can get a copy of the video, it should be cookbook for you.
The solution is to buy a lock at the local home depot that has a tab that
rotates down into a slot you cut on your slider rail.
That's how mine is built. I'd send a picture, but I don't have one. I will
point out that I never lock the canopy. I figure it is worth $1000 in parts
+ $2,000 in labor + a month in downtime, and it would only take 30 seconds
to trash it and break in and steal the radios anyway.
If someone just stole the radios, I could buy and install a radio in under a
week, the insurance company would still pay for it, and it would certainly
cost less than the cost of a canopy and the radios...
KB
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Salyer" <jimsalyer@cfu.net>
Subject: RV-List: need lock on slider canopy - any help
> --> RV-List message posted by: Jim Salyer <jimsalyer@cfu.net>
>
> The way these radios are costing, I would like to put some kind of
> locking system on a sliding canopy.....ANY HELP!!
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: EAA membership |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
Yup you are right, there was a do not archive buried down there in the
quoted message.
Jerry.
Chris W wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Chris W <chrisw3@cox.net>
>
> If you took the time to look carefully you would see that there is a do not archive
> in there.
>
> Jerry Springer wrote:
>
>
>>--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
>>
>>It is also pretty easy to put a do not archive to these kinds of rants.
>>"It is really much easier than most people realize."
>>
>>Jerry
>>-------------------------------------------------
>>Chris W wrote:
>>
>>>--> RV-List message posted by: Chris W <chrisw3@cox.net>
>>>
>>>This is a huge pet peeve of mine. You have to look at it from my perspective
>>>I know just how easy it is to do it right. And it doesn't take thousands of
>>>dollars of software and hardware or thousands of man hours to do it right.
>>>It is really much easier than most people realize. It's kind of like this
>>>job a friend of mine had where she was paid to read computer printouts and
>>>type the data into a computer, how idiotic can you get?!?!
>>>
>>>Chris W
>>>
>>>ktlkrn@cox.net wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>--> RV-List message posted by: <ktlkrn@cox.net>
>>>>
>>>>Did I miss something? Was there an urgency to get on line with EAA today?
>>>>Relax, no Mountain Dew or coffee for 24 hours, try again in the morning.
>>>>
>>>>Darwin N. Barrie
>>>>Chandler AZ
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Let me start of with do not archive these rantings.
>>>>>
>>>>>I have been a member of the EAA for about a day and am already very
>>>>>irritated. First I sign up and they can't even give me my member
>>>>>number.
>>>>
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| Subject: | need lock on slider canopy - any help |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Holyoke" <bicyclop@pacbell.net>
Or a prop lock and a throttle lock
Ed Holyoke
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-
> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gert
> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 4:41 PM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV-List: need lock on slider canopy - any help
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Gert <gert@execpc.com>
>
> This of course could be a moot point if all airplanes are maybe going
to
> be required to be dual locked. e.g. an entry lock and a ignition lock.
>
> Scott Bilinski wrote:
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-
> wireless.com>
> >
> > Which plane? I am going to come up with something for my 8. I am
> planning
> > on something very discrete and will not be noticeable. But, as
mentioned
> > before if somebody wants in, whats to stop them? A spindley little
> locking
> > mechanism will just slow them down a few minutes and they could
possibly
> > tear up the canopy to get in. There again install the panel and
> instruments
> > with some bizarre type screw. Now that I thought of it I am going to
> look
> > into this.
> >
> >
> > At 05:12 PM 4/17/03 -0500, you wrote:
> >
> >>--> RV-List message posted by: Jim Salyer <jimsalyer@cfu.net>
> >>
> >>The way these radios are costing, I would like to put some kind of
> >>locking system on a sliding canopy.....ANY HELP!!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > Scott Bilinski
> > Eng dept 305
> > Phone (858) 657-2536
> > Pager (858) 502-5190
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: Rob Lasater <av8rrob@swbell.net>
Jeff,
Go for it man! Do what you love and happines will
follow. As a current airline pilot, I have flown with
plenty of guys that went the military route and more
than plenty that went "the other way" (this includes
myself). Also, after you finish your RV and fly the
hell out of it, you can sell it for more than you put
into it (hopefully).
av8rrob
another aspiring RV-8 owner
--- j tramontano <blueirocrt@hotmail.com> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "j tramontano"
> <blueirocrt@hotmail.com>
>
> That was a confusing reply with the info on the Air
> Force. And who is tracy?
> I got advice on why I should not buy a plane and
> what to do with my career:)
> Well its too late to get the government to pay for
> my ratings as I have
> everything I need sans the ATP and the various
> CFI's. Plus the Air Force has
> this problem with people and vision correction that
> the airlines dont care
> about. I would give up quite a bit for a Strike
> Eagle slot but that isnt
> going to happen. Whats the next best thing to a
> F-15....a P51$$$.....how
> about a RV8!!!! I would like to complete one for
> under 35k and belive its
> possible as I am not building an IFR show plane. The
> engine choice is due to
> cost issues all around. Cheaper now, cheaper in the
> future for work and
> rebuild, cheaper when 100LL is phased out. I have
> plenty of friends my age
> who are financing $35k cars for five years. My car
> is paid off and I live
> with the rents:) I almost bought a 68 Cherokee 140
> for $28k. It was slow,
> old, ugly, dirty, smelled funny, paint horrible,
> ancient panel but with a
> new motor and prop. Not a good deal. Since I am new
> to the list i see people
> are notating do not archive when its a discussion
> like this so here it goes
>
> Jeff
> Do Not Archive
>
>
>
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> any other
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for a RV-3A |
--> RV-List message posted by: Finn Lassen <finnlassen@netzero.net>
Laid and Joe.
No, "B" is for the new pre-manufactured spars (look at Van's web-site).
There's no suffix for the anti buckling angles, just the change notice (CN-2-1
in my case).
Wing and/or fuselage tank has got nothing to do with it (I have both).
Finn
If I recall correctly, the "A" designation on a RV-3 refers to the
fix of the rear spar attachment (from a simple overlap to double
shear). A "B" designation refers to the main spar fix, which
involves adding anti buckling angles on the back of the spar caps
(which removes the 4.1g limitation).
Laird RV-6
Joe Hine wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Joe Hine" <joehine@rogers.com>
>
>
>-Hi Guys
>
>I think also the a model has wing tanks and the early 3 had fuselage tank
>above your legs.
>
>Joe Hine
>
>RV4 C-FYTQ
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: Laird Owens <owens@aerovironment.com>
>
>Scott,
>
>If I recall correctly, the "A" designation on a RV-3 refers to the
>fix of the rear spar attachment (from a simple overlap to double
>shear). A "B" designation refers to the main spar fix, which
>involves adding anti buckling angles on the back of the spar caps
>(which removes the 4.1g limitation).
>
>Laird RV-6
>WHP
>
>
>
>
>>--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski
>>
>>
><bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
>
>
>>RV-3a.....................Are you sure? I have not heard of any 3's being
>>converting to a nose wheel.
>>
>>At 09:04 AM 4/17/03 -0700, you wrote:
>>
>>
>>>--> RV-List message posted by: "rv6apjb" <rv6apjb@attbi.com>
>>>
>>>I have a friend looking for a RV-3A to purchase.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>Scott Bilinski
>>Eng dept 305
>>Phone (858) 657-2536
>>Pager (858) 502-5190
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for a RV-3A |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
Yes "a" is for the early modification.
Finn Lassen wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Finn Lassen <finnlassen@netzero.net>
>
> Laid and Joe.
>
> No, "B" is for the new pre-manufactured spars (look at Van's web-site).
> There's no suffix for the anti buckling angles, just the change notice (CN-2-1
in my case).
> Wing and/or fuselage tank has got nothing to do with it (I have both).
>
> Finn
>
> If I recall correctly, the "A" designation on a RV-3 refers to the
> fix of the rear spar attachment (from a simple overlap to double
> shear). A "B" designation refers to the main spar fix, which
> involves adding anti buckling angles on the back of the spar caps
> (which removes the 4.1g limitation).
>
> Laird RV-6
>
>
> Joe Hine wrote:
>
>
>>--> RV-List message posted by: "Joe Hine" <joehine@rogers.com>
>>
>>
>>-Hi Guys
>>
>>I think also the a model has wing tanks and the early 3 had fuselage tank
>>above your legs.
>>
>>Joe Hine
>>
>>RV4 C-FYTQ
>>
>>--> RV-List message posted by: Laird Owens <owens@aerovironment.com>
>>
>>Scott,
>>
>>If I recall correctly, the "A" designation on a RV-3 refers to the
>>fix of the rear spar attachment (from a simple overlap to double
>>shear). A "B" designation refers to the main spar fix, which
>>involves adding anti buckling angles on the back of the spar caps
>>(which removes the 4.1g limitation).
>>
>>Laird RV-6
>>WHP
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski
>>>
>>>
>>
>><bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
>>
>>
>>
>>>RV-3a.....................Are you sure? I have not heard of any 3's being
>>>converting to a nose wheel.
>>>
>>>At 09:04 AM 4/17/03 -0700, you wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>--> RV-List message posted by: "rv6apjb" <rv6apjb@attbi.com>
>>>>
>>>>I have a friend looking for a RV-3A to purchase.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Scott Bilinski
>>>Eng dept 305
>>>Phone (858) 657-2536
>>>Pager (858) 502-5190
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: EAA membership |
--> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com
In a message dated 4/17/2003 10:02:32 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
chrisw3@cox.net writes:
> This is a huge pet peeve of mine. You have to look at it from my
> perspective
> I know just how easy it is to do it right.
Chris-
I suppose we all have our obsessions (spelling errors and poor grammar drive
me crazy, if you hadn't noticed), but you really should be on medication, or
alternatively, you should buy a kit from Van's and get building as a form of
therapy ;o). With age will come wisdom and patience.
-GV (RV-6A N1GV 596hrs)
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Tank Pressure Problem - Question to the group |
--> RV-List message posted by: "George McNutt" <gmcnutt@intergate.ca>
--> RV-List message posted by: P M Condon <pcondon@mitre.org>
I need some help from the group on a fuel tank "observation" I had last
night. The Temp was hovering around 89 degrees in the hanger and the
fuel in my tank was being cooked at this temp. in my enclosed hanger.
After work, around 6:00 pm, still warm in the hanger, I opened the fuel
cap and heard a "whoosh" like the tank was under pressure. ??? I
scratched my head, then went to the air supply I have at the hanger and
blew some air into my belly vent for that tank. I got some "girgling"
noises from the two foot loop we all have in the vent system, and when
the "girgling noise stopped, there was air flowing into the tank.
QUestion....if my vent was clear(ecept for the fuel in the line), why
did I have a pressure "whoosh" noise when I opened the fuel cap ? BTW
the fuel cap is rather tight and the Andair fuel selector is turned to
the (both) off position. Is this condition normal ?
-------------------------------------------------------
This is also common on my RV6A. Sometimes when the fuel cap is removed it
sounds like there is a slight vacuum in the tank, at other times there is
pressure. Another interesting thing with full tanks is when you open the
hangar door and the sun first hits the wing, after a few minutes the tank
will "burp" a spoonfull or two of fuel out the vent onto the floor.
As another post suggested our vent systems are like a plumbing trap under a
sink. There is fuel in the trap and it does require a certain head of
pressure to overcome the trap back pressure.
After flying my tanks are slightly pressurized so the tank vents are doing
their job.
George McNutt
Langley, B.C.
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