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1. 12:25 AM - PTT Switch For Sale ()
2. 02:46 AM - Re: Can You Do This, Or will You Fail ? (Dana Overall)
3. 02:46 AM - Re: Fly in at Rebel's Bluff (Nick N)
4. 03:30 AM - Re: Can You Do This, Or will You Fail ? (John Harris)
5. 03:54 AM - Re: Can You Do This, Or will You Fail ? (Wes)
6. 04:14 AM - Re: Fuel Transducer Mounting (Dean Pichon)
7. 04:20 AM - RV for sale (Barry Bernstein)
8. 06:33 AM - Re: does top front panel carry load? (Kyle Boatright)
9. 07:15 AM - 0320 - For Sale (Bob Hassel)
10. 08:42 AM - Fuel tank access plate (Ken Simmons)
11. 09:01 AM - Re: God bless Captain Angry, Engine rebuilding information (Kyle Boatright)
12. 09:09 AM - Re: Fuel tank access plate (Randy Lervold)
13. 09:16 AM - Re: Fly in at Rebel's Bluff (RV4PatA@aol.com)
14. 11:17 AM - Re: Fuel Transducer Mounting (HCRV6@aol.com)
15. 12:07 PM - Austin (Ewinne@aol.com)
16. 01:04 PM - Post-Mooney RV Wanna-Be (Jim Murphy)
17. 01:33 PM - Re: wiring question (Kevin Horton)
18. 03:05 PM - Re: Can You Do This, Or will You Fail ? (mstewart@qa.butler.com)
19. 03:07 PM - B&C SD-8 alternator pictures (Kevin Horton)
20. 03:28 PM - Trutrak Altrak Alt. Hold Pirep (mstewart@qa.butler.com)
21. 05:57 PM - Ocala, FL (off subject) (VFT@aol.com)
22. 06:22 PM - Re : does top front panel carry load? (Martin Hone)
23. 06:36 PM - Navaid Data (Wheeler North)
24. 06:38 PM - Navaid (Wheeler North)
25. 10:02 PM - Re: N224WR Flies! (Clayton Henderson)
26. 11:15 PM - Dynon D-10 (Jim Jewell)
27. 11:36 PM - [ John Huft ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares)
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| Subject: | PTT Switch For Sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: "" <tx_jayhawk@excite.com>
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Aviation PTT Switch for sale. It was removed from the package (I believe it was
made by Pilot Products) but has never been used.
I thought I'd post to RVers before posting on Ebay:
$15
Scott
RV7A Waiting on Wings
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| Subject: | Re: Can You Do This, Or will You Fail ? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
Austin,
My goodness, I think all points of being have been hit in that post. This
one goes on my shop wall right next to the Bahama chart.
There will definitely be some rivets pounded today!!
Thank you.
Dana Overall
Richmond, KY
RV-7 slider/fuselage
http://rvflying.tripod.com
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| Subject: | Fly in at Rebel's Bluff |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Nick N" <rvator@nicknaf.com>
Just got back myself. Wonderful day! Arrived late, due to Instrument
Training in the morning, but still had a Great time! My thanks to Les
and all involved.
See you all there next year!!!!
Nick Nafsinger
Lincoln, NE
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Denis Walsh
Subject: RV-List: Fly in at Rebel's Bluff
--> RV-List message posted by: Denis Walsh <denis.walsh@attbi.com>
All of you who didn=B9t make it this year missed a great fly in. A
beautiful
grass field, with hangar and gas pump. The Baptist Ladies served a
tasty
barbecue lunch. It was great. Lots of entertainment too. Looked like
at
least 30 or 40 RVs and one Rocket. A collection of other planes all
gorgeous. Also a large turnout of builders.
Very well organized.
My thanks to the hosts, and especially Les.
Denis in Denver. (but I wasn=B9t the furthest flyer by quite a bit.)
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| Subject: | Re: Can You Do This, Or will You Fail ? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "John Harris" <johnharris@nc.rr.com>
Welcome back, Austin.
John
RV9A N922RV (Reserved)
Wings
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| Subject: | Re: Can You Do This, Or will You Fail ? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Wes" <whays@camalott.com>
Thank God the wordmeister is back!!!!! Thanks Austin. I really miss your
post. My one regret is that I had all your other ones saved, and when my
drive crashed I lost them. I would re-read them and send them to friends
from time to time. If you have copies I would appreciate you forwarding them
to me. If not, please write more. They lift my spirits and help me keep
things in perspective. I can only wish I was that eloquent.
Wes Hays
Winters, TX
whays@camalott.com
Do not archive
"The Laws of Aerodynamics are unforgiving and the ground is hard."
Michael Collins (1987)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Austin" <6430@axion.net>
Subject: RV-List: Can You Do This, Or will You Fail ?
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Austin" <6430@axion.net>
>
> I have enjoyed reading the banter and exchange of views on the list these
> days, relating to, what was the subject ?, some kid who wanted to fly or
> build or what the heck was it anyway ?
> An RV had to figure in there somehow....
> I do agree that how words jump out from an anonymous keyboard can read
back
> in a very harsh and mainly unintended way as opposed to talking face to
face
> to a person.
> I do this every day and my wife and I practically need an interpreter some
> days....inflection can make a huge difference in whether I get a wooden
> spoon on the head or a glass of wine as a kindness.
> In the case of whether an inquirer asks a group if he can do
> this or what he should do, I honestly think that they should be told
> something like....( in gentle tones)...forget it, you can't do it
> etc...because if that is all it takes to dissuade you from going after a
> dream, then perhaps you don't really want it that bad....
> Like another Rver on this list, I was always told that I couldn't
do
> such and such..would never make it, or didn't deserve it, etc., and that
> only threw gas on the fire for me to prove them wrong..
> Actually, the only real obstacle I had was ..tadaaa....no money......
> I was once asked to take a horse to the starting gate that was barred from
> racing until he behaved...nobody would do it and I was told he would flip
> and go nuts, and part of that was true, and it was scary as hell, but I
did
> it..for me...to see if I could fight down the fear..or fail...
> but when he got rolling, it was like a living P51 in my hands..poetry in
> motion and he and I as one fairly flying in the wind.....the risk this
time
> was worth it ..he was beautiful and a bit nuts..something like my first
girl
> friend...but I grew up a bit that day.
> When I finished the RV after years of work and no flying, and
> certainly nothing before like an RV, I was a bit scared, and tried not to
> show it, but darned if I wasn't going to the gate with this one since I
did
> all the work on it......I got a checkout, and then.......
> At least I wasn't told I could not do this, I climbed aboard, picked up
the
> reins, the bell went, and we were off and climbing and way too busy to
look
> back or register what I was feeling..
> Man, the cumulous look so white and puffy and make my paint reflect the
> bright metallic off the canopy......racing along the edge of it with the
bit
> in her teeth, the needles of the gauges climbing still, I am along the
edge
> of the Pacific in no time..
> My God, that is a lot of water out there and it goes on and on until you
> can't see the end of it....
> Funny, but fear never seemed to play a part in any of it once we ran off
> together, not even when it came time to go back to the barn ....
> First landings are very often the best ones....try to do that again....
> The nicest lyric after the engine's sweet song is the notes of the chirp
as
> first one wheel kisses the tarmac and the other follows right now and I
can
> hear a lot better when the throttle is back.
> Back to the barn to cool out and I don't mind walking around for a half
hour
> while she cools in her beautiful color and makes soft ticking sounds.....I
> never tire of it, and I left my fear aloft somewhere..
> The big surprise in my student flying days with the 140 was there
> was no sensation of blazing speed.
> That only happened when close to the grass for takeoff or
> landing.....followed of course by my mouth and driving style after a
> lesson...so the girl friend claimed....
> An old Air Force instructor short on the bottle and long on valor showed
me
> what flying low and fast and canyon running was all about and I was
> mesmerized by flying.
> I never saw a riverbank twist as fast as a Diamondback like that before
and
> it was so grand..
> I just wanted to fly and I was the only one in my family so
> inclined.
> Why didn't I take up the piano or become an accountant or something
sensible
> like that ?
> Because then, I would never know what I was made of, even if the only one
> who knows or cares is the one who looks back at this old dog in the mirror
> ....
> I can go back to my books and pictures now and read of Corsairs and such
and
> say to the faces seen and unseen....." I can do that "......
> And so can the young fellow who wonders the same..regardless of the
answers
> he gets.....
> Austin
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Transducer Mounting |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dean Pichon" <DeanPichon@msn.com>
Hi Mike,
I tried the same short-cut in my -4 when I mounted the fuel flow transducer. It
worked great for about 5 hours. The accuracy slowly deteriorated. After 10
hours of changing the "K" factor (up and down), it dawned on me that perhaps
the instructions specified the oreintation for a reason. It turns out, the geometry
of the transducer allows small amounts of air to get trapped in the flow
path if the wires are not facing "up" - causing erratic flow readings.
As soon as I reinstalled (re-oriented) the transducer, all my problems went away.
Last weekend, I pumped 19.8 gallons. The EI fuel gage indicated I had used
20.0. This is typical of the accuracy of the system I have experienced.
I bent a very simple bracket from 0.090 aluminum and mounted the transducer to
the firewall such that it is level in level flight. If you need more info, please
feel free to contact me directly.
Dean Pichon
Morgantown, WV
RV-4 (125 hours)
----- Original Message -----
From: Randy Lervold
Subject: Re: RV-List: Fuel Transducer Mounting
--> RV-List message posted by: "Randy Lervold" <randy@rv-8.com>
> I am putting in an EI Fuel Flow monitor and have a question about mounting
> the transducer. The directions say to mount the transducer with the
'wires
> facing upward.' This means the bolts would have to be in the vertical
plane.
> It would greatly ease installation if I could mount it with the bolts in
the
> horizontal plane (90 degrees off the recommended direction).
>
> Will mounting it sideways affect the operation? Why would it have to be
in a
> certain direction? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
>
> -Mike Kraus
> N223RV RV-4 60 hours!!
Mike,
The jeweled bearings for the turbine in there are very sensitive and are
designed to be loaded in the manner prescribed, so do mount it as
instructed. In most installations you can easily fabricate a mount from a
piece of L-bracket.
Regards,
Randy Lervold
RV-8, 304 hrs
www.rv-8.com
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--> RV-List message posted by: Barry Bernstein <cbernstein1@wi.rr.com>
Thought I'd post here before it appears in Trade a Plane:
My RV-6A QB tip up is for sale. 80% complete includes finish kit, 3
axis electric trim, wired panel (KMD 150, KT-76A, KY 97A, coupled
Navaid with heading hold, RMI microencoder, Falcon electric DG and
Attitude, EIS 6000 engine monitor, intercom) GBI interior kit (not
installed), strobes, ELT etc. Canopy not yet installed. Fuel system
and all electric complete through firewall. Unfortunately, time
constraints force sale. Will be advertised for $26,000/obo, but will
consider any reasonable offer to a good home! Contact me directly at
cbernstein1@wi.rr.com for pictures or any other info.
Barry
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| Subject: | Re: does top front panel carry load? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright" <kyle.boatright@adelphia.net>
Van could answer this with certainty, but in the RV-ator they have counseled
against cutting holes in this panel.
My eyeball engineering analysis says that it carries tension loads in flight
to hold the engine plumb and also carries tension due to engine thrust. On
the ground, it is in compression to take nosegear loads.
KB
----- Original Message -----
From: <Knicholas2@aol.com>
Subject: RV-List: does top front panel carry load?
> --> RV-List message posted by: Knicholas2@aol.com
>
> I am finishing up my RV9A - slider canopy. Does the top panel that covers
> the cockpit from the firewall to the instrument panel carry any load? I
want
> to cut 2-3 access panels in the area over the avionics using platenuts to
> hold the covers. Doing this would GREATLY ease access to wiring and
avionics
> repairs.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Kim Nicholas
> RV9A
> Seattle
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Hassel" <bob@hassel-usa.com>
A local Dallas-ite has an 0-320 up for sale if anyone is interested. I have
some pictures of it with info on a hastily done page off of my web-site.
If I was further along in my building process - I may have not posted this
at all 8-)
You can find it at :
http://www.hassel-usa.com/0320-4-sale.htm
Bob
Bob Hassel
Email: bob@hassel-usa.com
URL: http://www.hassel-usa.com
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety - Benjamin Franklin
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| Subject: | Fuel tank access plate |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ken Simmons" <ken@truckstop.com>
Sorry to bring this subject up again, but there are a couple of things I
didn't see addressed in the archives.
It seems the choices are gasket/fuelube, gasket/proseal, and proseal only as
well as the standard phillips head screws or hex head screws.
I understand the use for the hex head screws is to be able to remove the
access plate without removing the tank from the wing. This makes sense to
allow fixing a leak on the plate or to check/clean anything that might be
blocking the fuel pickup. The question here is can the access plate be
removed with the tank still attached if it has been prosealed? It seems like
a difficult task even with the tank removed from the wing.
Another question on using the fuelube is the possiblity of a leak from the
rear tooling hole on the inboard rib. If the access plate was prosealed this
could be covered. If only fuelube is used I could see a potential leak. The
plans don't call for sealing the access hole ring, and mine are already done
so that isn't an option.
The other question/concern I saw in the archives that I didn't see an answer
for was a possible corrosion problem between the stainless steal screws and
the alcad plate. It seems this would also be a concern when substituting the
torx screws for the phillips screws for fuel tank attachment to the wing.
Ken
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| Subject: | Re: God bless Captain Angry, Engine rebuilding information |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright" <kyle.boatright@adelphia.net>
I had exactly your experience (OK, mine was rebuilding a Triumph inline 6
cylinder) when I built my engine. The three "training materials" I had were
the Lycoming manual (reprint), the Skyranch Engineering manual, and a brief
videotape that it produced by a couple of assemblers from Mattituck.
The engines go together fairly easily, but I did have an AI buddy look over
my shoulders at a couple of key points.
For machine work, I used Aviation Specialties Services in Oklahoma. (800)
826-9252
KB
----- Original Message -----
From: "rpmiller" <rpmiller@1usa.net>
Subject: RV-List: God bless Captain Angry, Engine rebuilding information
> --> RV-List message posted by: "rpmiller" <rpmiller@1usa.net>
>
> The "was alternative engines" thread was entertaining. It made clear to
me how easy it is to come across as disrespectful and defensive when you get
wound up writing emails back and forth. I think it improves communication
when you proof read your stuff before sending it, and when you show a little
humility and a sense of humour. I also have to admit that I sort of enjoy
these argumentative threads that use the subject of RVs as a pretext to rant
about someting else.
>
> On the other hand...looking into the future on my project I am going to
have to inspect/rebuild my Lycoming 0-320 E2D. While I realize the wisest
course may well be to farm it out to someone else, I would still like to
learn about what is involved. I've only rebuilt one engine, a Ford 2.0
liter, in my life but it was fun and it ran well. I would like to know what
someone with experience in this area would recommend as to what Lycoming
manuals, parts/assembly whatever, I should get and if there are any good
rebuilding books or videos for this engine. Also where does the amateur go
for parts/machine work?
>
> I also have a Great American prop 68x66, does anyone know if this was for
a 150hp or a 160hp engine? Its an RV4.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel tank access plate |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Randy Lervold" <randy@rv-8.com>
> The question here is can the access plate be
> removed with the tank still attached if it has been prosealed? It seems
like
> a difficult task even with the tank removed from the wing.
Yes, the plate can be removed while on the plane even if ProSealed -- I've
done it, and it really wasn't that big of a deal. See
http://www.rv-8.com/Wings.htm for additional detail.
Randy Lervold
RV-8, 304 hrs
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| Subject: | Re: Fly in at Rebel's Bluff |
--> RV-List message posted by: RV4PatA@aol.com
Rebel's Bluff was great! The RVs, the Stearmans, the J3 cub, the
skydivers, the powered parachute demo, the chopper, the flybys, the acro, the
food, the people; all great! If Les has another one of these, don't miss it.
Thanks Les!
Pat Allender
RV4 Iowa City
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Transducer Mounting |
--> RV-List message posted by: HCRV6@aol.com
In a message dated 4/26/03 5:49:52 PM Pacific Daylight Time, N223RV@aol.com
writes:
<< I am putting in an EI Fuel Flow monitor and have a question about mounting
the transducer. The directions say to mount the transducer with the 'wires
facing upward.' This means the bolts would have to be in the vertical
plane.
It would greatly ease installation if I could mount it with the bolts in
the
horizontal plane (90 degrees off the recommended direction).
Will mounting it sideways affect the operation? Why would it have to be in
a
certain direction? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
>>
Mike:
I recently mounted my fuel flow transducer after worrying over the same
issues you mention for months. The wires up orientation has to do with
proper venting of the transducer, at least that's what I am told by the
manufacturer. I fabricated a "T" bracket from two pieces of 0.063 bent into
90 deg. "L"s and then riveted together on one leg back to back. This bolts
to the firewall (two AN-3s top and bottom) with an 0.063 backing plate on the
inside. The transducer then sits on the forward facing leg of the "T". It's
solid and looks like it will work fine, but of course I'm many months away
from flying yet.
Harry Crosby
Pleasanton, California
RV-6, firewall forward
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--> RV-List message posted by: Ewinne@aol.com
Austin....
I love ya, man!
Ed Winne
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| Subject: | Post-Mooney RV Wanna-Be |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Murphy" <rv@murphymotorsports.com>
Greetings all. I've been an RV fan for a number of years and I'm thinking
heavily about making the move from a Mooney M20J into an RV. Preferably
an -8, while I'll consider a -7/-6 if She Who Must Be Obeyed is totally
opposed to the "sittin' in back" part.
I seem to recall noting that there's a number of ex-Mooney folks flying
RV's, some on this list. Can any of you offer advice/opinions on your
transition? What were you looking for in the RV, did you get it? What do
you miss from the Mooney that's no longer there?
I'm also seeking advice on the best way to make the transition. Of course,
there's build it, buy it, and the hybrid finish someone else's partial kit.
What's the biggest "gotcha" in terms of looking at the finishing someone
else's kit plan? What's the most common reason for failure for folks that
do that?
Thanks in Advance,
Jim Murphy
M20J "201"
P.S. If there are any folks in the Nashua, NH area (or folks that wouldn't
mind a free lunch for flying up to Nashua) that would let me wife climb in
the back seat of an RV-8 so she can see what it's like, please let me know
privately at jsm@murphymotorsports.com.
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| Subject: | Re: wiring question |
--> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorto1537@rogers.com>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Dave Ford" <dford@michweb.net>
>
>I have the AK-350 encoder, an IK2000 engine monitor w/density
>altitude readout (requiring gray code input, looping out to another
>device), Garmin GTX327, Garmin GNC300XL. The transponder has a gray
>code input and 2 RS232 inputs to receive Icarus or Shadin type
>altitude info. It also has altitude output in Icarus format. The
>GPS has RS232 inputs to receive (I believe) Icarus or Shadin type
>info (according to installation manual). It also has a 232 output
>channel showing aviation type info (serial position, velocity, and
>navigation data) which I'm not sure where that info is to be used.
> I am currently thinking that from the encoder to the IK2000 with
>gray code looping that out to the transponder with a RS232 output
>going to the GPS unit with altitude info. Does that sound right?
> Next for the Navaid A/P does it get steering info from the GPS
>RS232 output NMEA format or from the GPS left/right steering info
>that would normally go to a Nav Indicator? Do I need the Smart
>Coupler with this unit?
>
>Dave Ford
>RV6
>
The Navaid needs a left/right input that would normally go to a Nav
indicator. I think the GNC 300XL should be able to drive the Navaid.
The smart coupler is needed with handheld GPS units that aren't built
to drive Nav indicators.
I can't help you on the altitude question.
--
Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit)
Ottawa, Canada
http://go.phpwebhosting.com/~khorton/rv8/
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| Subject: | Can You Do This, Or will You Fail ? |
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--> RV-List message posted by: mstewart@qa.butler.com
Austin..
that was a great write up to a fine I day had.
Your words from my lips, I can never say so well.
Today, I woke up with no particular thing to do, except fly my other half
to the coast for lunch. A 5 hour drive, or a 1hr15min rv flight. We took the
flight of course.
Lunch was fine, delughtful in fact, but the flight was as it always is, more
than words can say.
Your words did.
THanks.
Mike
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From: Austin [mailto:6430@axion.net]
Subject: RV-List: Can You Do This, Or will You Fail ?
--> RV-List message posted by: "Austin" <6430@axion.net>
I have enjoyed reading the banter and exchange of views on the list these
days, relating to, what was the subject ?, some kid who wanted to fly or
build or what the heck was it anyway ?
An RV had to figure in there somehow....
I do agree that how words jump out from an anonymous keyboard can read back
in a very harsh and mainly unintended way as opposed to talking face to face
to a person.
I do this every day and my wife and I practically need an interpreter some
days....inflection can make a huge difference in whether I get a wooden
spoon on the head or a glass of wine as a kindness.
In the case of whether an inquirer asks a group if he can do
this or what he should do, I honestly think that they should be told
something like....( in gentle tones)...forget it, you can't do it
etc...because if that is all it takes to dissuade you from going after a
dream, then perhaps you don't really want it that bad....
Like another Rver on this list, I was always told that I couldn't do
such and such..would never make it, or didn't deserve it, etc., and that
only threw gas on the fire for me to prove them wrong..
Actually, the only real obstacle I had was ..tadaaa....no money......
I was once asked to take a horse to the starting gate that was barred from
racing until he behaved...nobody would do it and I was told he would flip
and go nuts, and part of that was true, and it was scary as hell, but I did
it..for me...to see if I could fight down the fear..or fail...
but when he got rolling, it was like a living P51 in my hands..poetry in
motion and he and I as one fairly flying in the wind.....the risk this time
was worth it ..he was beautiful and a bit nuts..something like my first girl
friend...but I grew up a bit that day.
When I finished the RV after years of work and no flying, and
certainly nothing before like an RV, I was a bit scared, and tried not to
show it, but darned if I wasn't going to the gate with this one since I did
all the work on it......I got a checkout, and then.......
At least I wasn't told I could not do this, I climbed aboard, picked up the
reins, the bell went, and we were off and climbing and way too busy to look
back or register what I was feeling..
Man, the cumulous look so white and puffy and make my paint reflect the
bright metallic off the canopy......racing along the edge of it with the bit
in her teeth, the needles of the gauges climbing still, I am along the edge
of the Pacific in no time..
My God, that is a lot of water out there and it goes on and on until you
can't see the end of it....
Funny, but fear never seemed to play a part in any of it once we ran off
together, not even when it came time to go back to the barn ....
First landings are very often the best ones....try to do that again....
The nicest lyric after the engine's sweet song is the notes of the chirp as
first one wheel kisses the tarmac and the other follows right now and I can
hear a lot better when the throttle is back.
Back to the barn to cool out and I don't mind walking around for a half hour
while she cools in her beautiful color and makes soft ticking sounds.....I
never tire of it, and I left my fear aloft somewhere..
The big surprise in my student flying days with the 140 was there
was no sensation of blazing speed.
That only happened when close to the grass for takeoff or
landing.....followed of course by my mouth and driving style after a
lesson...so the girl friend claimed....
An old Air Force instructor short on the bottle and long on valor showed me
what flying low and fast and canyon running was all about and I was
mesmerized by flying.
I never saw a riverbank twist as fast as a Diamondback like that before and
it was so grand..
I just wanted to fly and I was the only one in my family so
inclined.
Why didn't I take up the piano or become an accountant or something sensible
like that ?
Because then, I would never know what I was made of, even if the only one
who knows or cares is the one who looks back at this old dog in the mirror
....
I can go back to my books and pictures now and read of Corsairs and such and
say to the faces seen and unseen....." I can do that "......
And so can the young fellow who wonders the same..regardless of the answers
he gets.....
Austin
do not archive
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| Subject: | B&C SD-8 alternator pictures |
--> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorto1537@rogers.com>
There was an earlier thread about tach generators, and one of the
branches was about the clearance between the B&C SD-8 alternator and
where a tach generator would mount. I took a few pictures of my SD-8
installation and posted them on my web site, in case anyone is
interested.
<http://go.phpwebhosting.com/~khorton/rv8/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album07>
There is a good chance the above link will get wrapped into two lines
by the wonders of e-mail. If so, you need to cut and paste to
reassemble it or it won't work.
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Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit)
Ottawa, Canada
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| Subject: | Trutrak Altrak Alt. Hold Pirep |
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--> RV-List message posted by: mstewart@qa.butler.com
After reading the pirep report last week I decided it was long overdue,
altitude hold was in my future.
I fly alot, 800 hours in the past year and one half. And if there is any
down side to the flying characterists of the RV, it is the sensitivity in
pitch at cruise. I find near 80% of my time IFR is spent managing altitude.
Unacceptable I decided early on. But it was not until the Altrak unit came
into play that something was affordable enough for me to take the plunge. I
tried and tried for 2 years to get Navaid to get into the altitude hold
market. I have thuroughly enjoyed the wing unit. But no joy on alt. hold. So
off I went to purchase the Altrak unit. Overnighted to my home, installed
next day.
Installation was pretty easy, 8 hours soup to nuts. I have flown it 4 hours.
Thinks I like..
1) Single button on the panel, push it in, green light, and your on. Nice
2) Price/Value is good, especially for me. I fly alot.
3) High quality product, as is seen and felt in playing with the unit
4) hold alt in smooth air +-10ft, lt-mod turb +-30 feet
5) turns <20deg +-20 feet, turns <45deg, +-50 feet, turns <45deg +-80feet
6) It is very smooth. I was concerned about feeling the unit operate in my
butt, but I can't. I am very happy with that.
7) My 3 hours flying it today, I have so much time on my hands now, I need
inflight entertainment, and a coffee maker to keep me awake. It has freed up
way more time for other duties, much more than I hopped it would.
Things I did not like...
1) Servo is heavy. I do not have a scale to weigh it, but Ill bet it is 3
times the weight of the NavAid servo in my wing. No doubt this servo is of
higher quality, but damn.... its heavy. I was not happy sticking that weight
in my tailcone back there. Every time I picked it up, my face would crincle
in disgust. I seriously considered putting it back in the box and returning
it for that reason alone. But I didn't. And I am glad I didn't return it.
2) I get a noise in my headset, through my com, from the servo. Sounds like
a high pitched morris code. Faint but irritating. Paperwork said not to
bother with shielding wire, so I didn't. But I have noise and now Im going
to have to rip the plane apart again and put shielded wire from the tailcone
to the cockpit. ARGH!!
Ill post some pics and detailed write up on my website in a few days.
Mike Stewart
6A
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| Subject: | Ocala, FL (off subject) |
--> RV-List message posted by: VFT@aol.com
Hi
sorry for the off subject post but if anyone lives in the Ocala, FL area
could you please contact me off list. I need a hand picking up a birthday
gift for my son. Was going to fly up this weekend but my plane is down for
maintenance.
Thanks,
Danny Melnik
F1 #25
Melbourne (FL) Rocket Factory
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| Subject: | Re : does top front panel carry load? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Martin Hone" <martin.hone@tradergroup.com.au>
Hi Kim,
I was faced with the same question - how the hell am I going to access all those
items behind the panel once the top skin is permanently in place ?
So I went with a 8 X 10 access panel in front of the windscreen and a hinged instrument
panel.
Works great. Others, such as Pat Hatch have made cut-outs in the top skin and I
haven't heard of it causing any problems, but it sure makes things easier. I
doubt that you would need any more than two cut-outs, and maybe just one, well-placed,
will be sufficient.
Cheers
Martin in Oz
RV6 95%
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--> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us>
The Navaid accepts +150mv left and +150mv right data. The smart coupler
takes NMEA 0183 cross track error data and converts it into the previously
mention signals which are then fed into the Navaid.
Mine has the coupler internal and it is wired with a DPDT switch to select
NMEA 0183 data from the GPS S/C or L/R data from the VOR/LOC.
The data from the GPS seems to cause it to be more stable then the VOR/LOC.
The VOR/LOC wanders slightly, whereas the GPS only oscillates when it has to
make a course turn of more than about 30degs.
I have never really proven if the VOR/LOC wander is from the Navaid or the
VAL INS422, but the needle display from the 422 is very sensitive, so I'm
inclined to believe that is what is causing the over controlling. (since
we're all being so sensitive here these days, I want to be really clear in
pointing out that I have no hard sceintific proof that its the 422 vs the
Navaid. In fact all comments posted in this post are the mindless opinion of
another ex-auto-mechanic with severe neurophysiological damage due to
repetitive exposure to meythaltertiarybutyalether. By the way what's up with
the deal about everybody being ex auto-mechanics who have only built Ford
2.0 H2ADs) ;{)
Second flight of the Dynon D-10 was as much fun as the first one. Did some
work to plot out the deviations between the unit's alt readings and the
steam gauge alt readings. There is some deviation (30-60ft)which doesn't
bother me, but the amount of difference does change a little from airport to
airport which rules out static error. Other than that it seems to work still
very well.
Next flight I think I will try to seriously plot out both IAS and ALT for
the D-10 and the steam gauges at 10 kts increments to see if there's a
specific arc of deviation on either. The hard part about this is trying to
do anything serious while flying an RV. I cannot be serious and grin at the
same time, and I cannot fly an RV and not grin the whole damm flight.
I will say that I used the Dynon this time to reference my touch down
attitude and it plopped on all three perfectly.
W
flying a 328 hour auxillary gear on the correct end, not so auto-converted,
epoxy primed, with a few cheasy parts, slider version, RV6.
Oh... did I say something politically uncorrect?
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--> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us>
The Navaid accepts +150mv left and +150mv right data. The smart coupler
takes NMEA 0183 cross track error data and converts it into the previously
mention signals which are then fed into the Navaid.
Mine has the coupler internal and it is wired with a DPDT switch to select
NMEA 0183 data from the GPS S/C or L/R data from the VOR/LOC.
The data from the GPS seems to cause it to be more stable then the VOR/LOC.
The VOR/LOC wanders slightly, whereas the GPS only oscillates when it has to
make a course turn of more than about 30degs.
I have never really proven if the VOR/LOC wander is from the Navaid or the
VAL INS422, but the needle display from the 422 is very sensitive, so I'm
inclined to believe that is what is causing the over controlling. (since
we're all being so sensitive here these days, I want to be really clear in
pointing out that I have no hard sceintific proof that its the 422 vs the
Navaid. In fact all comments posted in this post are the mindless opinion of
another ex-auto-mechanic with severe neurophysiological damage due to
repetitive exposure to meythaltertiarybutyalether. By the way what's up with
the deal about everybody being ex auto-mechanics who have only built Ford
2.0 H2ADs) ;{)
Second flight of the Dynon D-10 was as much fun as the first one. Did some
work to plot out the deviations between the unit's alt readings and the
steam gauge alt readings. There is some deviation (30-60ft)which doesn't
bother me, but the amount of difference does change a little from airport to
airport which rules out static error. Other than that it seems to work still
very well.
Next flight I think I will try to seriously plot out both IAS and ALT for
the D-10 and the steam gauges at 10 kts increments to see if there's a
specific arc of deviation on either. The hard part about this is trying to
do anything serious while flying an RV. I cannot be serious and grin at the
same time, and I cannot fly an RV and not grin the whole damm flight.
I will say that I used the Dynon this time to reference my touch down
attitude and it plopped on all three perfectly.
W
flying a 328 hour auxillary gear on the correct end, not so auto-converted,
epoxy primed, with a few cheasy parts, slider version, RV6.
Oh... did I say something politically uncorrect?
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Clayton Henderson" <gsuit@eonet.net>
Here here...
Well done indeed. Got any pics to share. We all love to drool over
'what will be.'
Clayton
RV-7 Fuselage
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net>
I received my Dynon EFIS D-10 on Friday.
I have been going all over the place in this area showing it to anybody and everybody
that I could.
I appear to have all the symptoms of a serious case of 'The boy with a new toy
syndrome'.
It's fun watching mouths drop. People are amazed when they see how this unit performs.
You can hear their gyroscopes whiring down as they contemplate the impact
this kind of technology is now begining to have.
At a couple of pilots meetings that I have attended over the weekend small crowds
formed each time I turned it on.
This unit is worth every penny. I can hardly wait to get airborne with it.
Jim in Kelowna
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