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1. 04:41 AM - Phoenix RVers (David Sundberg)
2. 04:47 AM - Flight Testing (willfly)
3. 04:54 AM - Re: From The Ground Up (Nick N)
4. 05:37 AM - Re: Flight Testing (mstewart@qa.butler.com)
5. 06:09 AM - Pin assignments for 3 in 1 gauge?? (Shemp Dowling)
6. 06:21 AM - Re: Fuel tank access plate (Doug Gray)
7. 07:43 AM - Re: Trutrak Altrak Alt. Hold Pirep (Ross Schlotthauer)
8. 08:07 AM - Re: Fuel tank access plate (Ken Simmons)
9. 08:09 AM - Re: Pin assignments for 3 in 1 gauge?? (LeastDrag93066@aol.com)
10. 08:13 AM - Re: Trutrak Altrak Alt. Hold Pirep (TruTrak Flight Systems)
11. 08:44 AM - Altrak installation pics are up (mstewart@qa.butler.com)
12. 08:47 AM - Re: Can You Do This, Or will You Fail ? (Scott Vanartsdalen)
13. 08:49 AM - Austin's writings Was: Can You Do This (Scott Vanartsdalen)
14. 08:53 AM - Re: Trutrak Altrak Alt. Hold Pirep (mstewart@qa.butler.com)
15. 09:03 AM - Re: Parting concern... (Scott Vanartsdalen)
16. 09:09 AM - Re: Parting concern...(rant, delete if you really don't care) (Scott Vanartsdalen)
17. 09:15 AM - Re: Altrak installation pics are up (Finn Lassen)
18. 09:26 AM - E-Bay shopping (was: Need help, but waaaaaay off subject!) (Bill Dube)
19. 09:49 AM - Re: Austin's writings Was: Can You Do This (Tedd McHenry)
20. 09:57 AM - Re: Altrak installation pics are up (mstewart@qa.butler.com)
21. 10:04 AM - Re: Re : does top front panel carry load? (kempthornes)
22. 10:38 AM - Re: Altrak installation pics are up (RGray67968@aol.com)
23. 10:46 AM - Ooops - Altrak installation pics are up (RGray67968@aol.com)
24. 11:05 AM - Re: From The Ground Up (Patrick Kelley)
25. 11:42 AM - Re: Trutrak Altrak Alt. Hold Pirep (TruTrak Flight Systems)
26. 12:04 PM - Re: Parting concern...(rant, delete if you really don't care) (John D. & Rose)
27. 01:13 PM - Canopy Skirt Vibration (Gary Graham)
28. 02:17 PM - Re: Canopy Skirt Vibration (Scott Bilinski)
29. 02:19 PM - Rebuilding your engine (Gordon Robertson)
30. 02:27 PM - doo-hickeys (Bill VonDane)
31. 02:29 PM - EAA Ch 808 Fly-In Breakfast this Saturday... (Bill VonDane)
32. 02:33 PM - Re: Canopy Skirt Vibration (Dwpetrus@aol.com)
33. 02:34 PM - Re: Canopy Skirt Vibration (Dwpetrus@aol.com)
34. 03:08 PM - EAA Chapter 90 sponsoring Oakdale Airport Apprication Day (Scott Vanartsdalen)
35. 03:18 PM - Re: Rebuilding your engine ()
36. 03:22 PM - Re: Canopy Skirt Vibration (Kyle Boatright)
37. 03:33 PM - Re: doo-hickeys (Bill Dube)
38. 03:42 PM - Re: doo-hickeys (Evan and Megan Johnson)
39. 03:52 PM - Re: Canopy Skirt Vibration (RV4PatA@aol.com)
40. 03:55 PM - Re: Canopy Skirt Vibration (RV4PatA@aol.com)
41. 04:00 PM - Re: Rebuilding your engine (Aircraft Technical Book Company)
42. 04:01 PM - Re: Flight Testing (Kevin Horton)
43. 04:15 PM - Re: doo-hickeys (kempthornes)
44. 04:23 PM - Re: Canopy Skirt Vibration (RV4PatA@aol.com)
45. 04:24 PM - Paying for engine break-in (Dan Checkoway)
46. 04:38 PM - Re: doo-hickeys (Eustace Bowhay)
47. 04:38 PM - Re: Rebuilding your engine (kempthornes)
48. 04:57 PM - Re: doo-hickeys (John Starn)
49. 05:32 PM - Re: Paying for engine break-in (Kyle Boatright)
50. 06:03 PM - Re: Paying for engine break-in (John Huft)
51. 06:09 PM - Re: doo-hickeys (Cy Galley)
52. 06:56 PM - trailering my RV-4 (Ron Patterson)
53. 07:07 PM - Re: trailering my RV-4 (Alex Peterson)
54. 07:08 PM - Re: Paying for engine break-in (Paul Besing)
55. 07:43 PM - Re: Paying for engine break-in (Dan Checkoway)
56. 08:47 PM - EIS fuel flow meter position (Amit Dagan)
57. 08:50 PM - electrical power / current consumption (Amit Dagan)
58. 09:08 PM - Re: Canopy Skirt Vibration (DEREK REED)
59. 09:13 PM - Re: Parting concern...(rant, delete if you really don't care) (rv6tc)
60. 09:35 PM - Re: EIS fuel flow meter position (Jeff Point)
61. 10:16 PM - Re: EAA Chapter 90 sponsoring Oakdale Airport Apprication Day (Vanremog@aol.com)
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--> RV-List message posted by: "David Sundberg" <david_fs@hotmail.com>
I'm going to be in Phoenix for a few days, starting this afternoon, and would like
to visit with some RVers - always looking for more hints, tricks, tips, ideas,
etc. Which Phoenix area airport has the biggest population of RV's? Anyone
planning to be out at their hangar Mon, Tues or Wed evening?
Thanks,
Dave
RV-7A - Finish Kit due this week
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--> RV-List message posted by: "willfly" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
I'm starting to think about flight testing and I'm looking for a value in
mph for Vpls on the RV - 8. I'm looking for Vpls no flaps, half flaps and full
flaps.
Vpls Predicted lift off speed.
Thanks,
Steve Glasgow
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| Subject: | From The Ground Up |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Nick N" <rvator@nicknaf.com>
For all those that are interested I posted Episode 3 on my website
tonight. It's NOT small (190 MG) so Dial-Up users will be there a week
or two. :D New episodes will be added as they appear on DWNGs.
Eventually hope to have all 13. These are HUGE I understand, but the
quality is outstanding. If anyone has a good program for manipulation
(resizing, saving different formats, etc.) of MPEG1 files, it would
appreciated! In the mean time: they are 1.05MPS MPEG1's, with
commercials removed, that can be converted to VCD's.
http://www.nicknaf.com/multimedia
Nick
Lincoln, NE
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Subject: RV-List: From The Ground Up
--> RV-List message posted by: "David Taylor" <rv7@cox.net>
For those who are interested it appears Discovery Wings is playing
"From The Ground Up" again. Episode 3 plays Sunday night. The website
shows 9:30 Eastern Time but you may want to verify the time.
-David
Taylor
N207DT
(reserved)
Empennage
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--> RV-List message posted by: mstewart@qa.butler.com
I think it is the same on all rv's
Vpls = 3 seconds or 100' before you think it will:)
Just having a little Monday morning fun.
I have a pretty extensive kneeboard set of flight testing procedures for the
rv in my downloads section. You may find it helpful at your pondering flight
testing.
http://www.mstewart.net/michael/rv/index.htm
Mike Stewart
Oh lord do not archive this
-----Original Message-----
From: willfly [mailto:willfly@carolina.rr.com]
Subject: RV-List: Flight Testing
--> RV-List message posted by: "willfly" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
I'm starting to think about flight testing and I'm looking for a value in
mph for Vpls on the RV - 8. I'm looking for Vpls no flaps, half flaps and
full flaps.
Vpls Predicted lift off speed.
Thanks,
Steve Glasgow
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| Subject: | Pin assignments for 3 in 1 gauge?? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Shemp Dowling" <shempdowling@earthlink.net>
Help, does anyone have the pin assignments on the 3 in 1 guage in ac spruce cat,
pg 340, p/n 10-12800? Made by Thomas Edison ( I guess its pretty old). Oil
tmp/prs, fuel prs. 4 pins, a,b,c,d.
Jeff Dowling
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel tank access plate |
--> RV-List message posted by: Doug Gray <dgra1233@bigpond.net.au>
I agree it is not difficult to separate prosealed Aluminum parts, I had
cause to do so and with a plastic steak knife easily hacked away the
proseal without marking the Alclad. On the strength of this experience
I had no hesitation in simply prosealing the covers on.
Doug Gray
>
>>The question here is can the access plate be
>>removed with the tank still attached if it has been prosealed? It seems
>
> like
>
>>a difficult task even with the tank removed from the wing.
>
>
> Yes, the plate can be removed while on the plane even if ProSealed -- I've
> done it, and it really wasn't that big of a deal.
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| Subject: | Re: Trutrak Altrak Alt. Hold Pirep |
--> RV-List message posted by: Ross Schlotthauer <rdschlotthauer@yahoo.com>
Mike,
It would be interesting to know how much that puppy
weighs. I am toying with the idea of putting the
IO-390 lyc in my 7 with the constant speed prop and
firewall battery. I belive this will be a little nose
heavy, so a little tail ballast may not be a bad
thing.
Ross Schlotthauer
RV7 Fuse
Still telling people about the fabulous ride I got in
Atlanta!
--- mstewart@qa.butler.com wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by:
> mstewart@qa.butler.com
>
> After reading the pirep report last week I decided
> it was long overdue,
> altitude hold was in my future.
> I fly alot, 800 hours in the past year and one half.
> And if there is any
> down side to the flying characterists of the RV, it
> is the sensitivity in
> pitch at cruise. I find near 80% of my time IFR is
> spent managing altitude.
> Unacceptable I decided early on. But it was not
> until the Altrak unit came
> into play that something was affordable enough for
> me to take the plunge. I
> tried and tried for 2 years to get Navaid to get
> into the altitude hold
> market. I have thuroughly enjoyed the wing unit. But
> no joy on alt. hold. So
> off I went to purchase the Altrak unit. Overnighted
> to my home, installed
> next day.
>
> Installation was pretty easy, 8 hours soup to nuts.
> I have flown it 4 hours.
>
> Thinks I like..
> 1) Single button on the panel, push it in, green
> light, and your on. Nice
> 2) Price/Value is good, especially for me. I fly
> alot.
> 3) High quality product, as is seen and felt in
> playing with the unit
> 4) hold alt in smooth air +-10ft, lt-mod turb +-30
> feet
> 5) turns <20deg +-20 feet, turns <45deg, +-50 feet,
> turns <45deg +-80feet
> 6) It is very smooth. I was concerned about feeling
> the unit operate in my
> butt, but I can't. I am very happy with that.
> 7) My 3 hours flying it today, I have so much time
> on my hands now, I need
> inflight entertainment, and a coffee maker to keep
> me awake. It has freed up
> way more time for other duties, much more than I
> hopped it would.
>
> Things I did not like...
> 1) Servo is heavy. I do not have a scale to weigh
> it, but Ill bet it is 3
> times the weight of the NavAid servo in my wing. No
> doubt this servo is of
> higher quality, but damn.... its heavy. I was not
> happy sticking that weight
> in my tailcone back there. Every time I picked it
> up, my face would crincle
> in disgust. I seriously considered putting it back
> in the box and returning
> it for that reason alone. But I didn't. And I am
> glad I didn't return it.
> 2) I get a noise in my headset, through my com, from
> the servo. Sounds like
> a high pitched morris code. Faint but irritating.
> Paperwork said not to
> bother with shielding wire, so I didn't. But I have
> noise and now Im going
> to have to rip the plane apart again and put
> shielded wire from the tailcone
> to the cockpit. ARGH!!
>
> Ill post some pics and detailed write up on my
> website in a few days.
> Mike Stewart
> 6A
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Fuel tank access plate |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ken Simmons" <ken@truckstop.com>
Thanks Randy and Doug. Van's had the same opinion this morning (at least
the person I spoke with) so it sounds like a winner.
Ken
DO NOT ARCHIVE
--> RV-List message posted by: "Randy Lervold" <randy@rv-8.com>
> The question here is can the access plate be
> removed with the tank still attached if it has been prosealed? It
seems
like
> a difficult task even with the tank removed from the wing.
Yes, the plate can be removed while on the plane even if ProSealed --
I've
done it, and it really wasn't that big of a deal. See
http://www.rv-8.com/Wings.htm for additional detail.
Randy Lervold
RV-8, 304 hrs
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| Subject: | Re: Pin assignments for 3 in 1 gauge?? |
--> RV-List message posted by: LeastDrag93066@aol.com
Pin A is for 24 volt power in.
Pin B is one side of the sensor.
Pin C is ground and the other side of the sensor.
Pin D is for 12 volt power in.
You only need to use Pin A (24 vdc) or Pin D (12 vdc) for power in. Not
both.
Jim Ayers
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| Subject: | Re: Trutrak Altrak Alt. Hold Pirep |
--> RV-List message posted by: "TruTrak Flight Systems" <info@trutrakflightsystems.com>
Ross,
In response to your question, the servos that we supply for all of the
RV series aircraft weigh 2.25 lb. The weight of the Navaid servo is 1.7 lb,
as per their website.
Andrew Barker
TruTrak Flight Systems
479-751-0250
www.trutrakap.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ross Schlotthauer" <rdschlotthauer@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Trutrak Altrak Alt. Hold Pirep
> --> RV-List message posted by: Ross Schlotthauer
<rdschlotthauer@yahoo.com>
>
> Mike,
>
> It would be interesting to know how much that puppy
> weighs. I am toying with the idea of putting the
> IO-390 lyc in my 7 with the constant speed prop and
> firewall battery. I belive this will be a little nose
> heavy, so a little tail ballast may not be a bad
> thing.
>
> Ross Schlotthauer
> RV7 Fuse
> Still telling people about the fabulous ride I got in
> Atlanta!
>
>
> --- mstewart@qa.butler.com wrote:
> > --> RV-List message posted by:
> > mstewart@qa.butler.com
> >
> > After reading the pirep report last week I decided
> > it was long overdue,
> > altitude hold was in my future.
> > I fly alot, 800 hours in the past year and one half.
> > And if there is any
> > down side to the flying characterists of the RV, it
> > is the sensitivity in
> > pitch at cruise. I find near 80% of my time IFR is
> > spent managing altitude.
> > Unacceptable I decided early on. But it was not
> > until the Altrak unit came
> > into play that something was affordable enough for
> > me to take the plunge. I
> > tried and tried for 2 years to get Navaid to get
> > into the altitude hold
> > market. I have thuroughly enjoyed the wing unit. But
> > no joy on alt. hold. So
> > off I went to purchase the Altrak unit. Overnighted
> > to my home, installed
> > next day.
> >
> > Installation was pretty easy, 8 hours soup to nuts.
> > I have flown it 4 hours.
> >
> > Thinks I like..
> > 1) Single button on the panel, push it in, green
> > light, and your on. Nice
> > 2) Price/Value is good, especially for me. I fly
> > alot.
> > 3) High quality product, as is seen and felt in
> > playing with the unit
> > 4) hold alt in smooth air +-10ft, lt-mod turb +-30
> > feet
> > 5) turns <20deg +-20 feet, turns <45deg, +-50 feet,
> > turns <45deg +-80feet
> > 6) It is very smooth. I was concerned about feeling
> > the unit operate in my
> > butt, but I can't. I am very happy with that.
> > 7) My 3 hours flying it today, I have so much time
> > on my hands now, I need
> > inflight entertainment, and a coffee maker to keep
> > me awake. It has freed up
> > way more time for other duties, much more than I
> > hopped it would.
> >
> > Things I did not like...
> > 1) Servo is heavy. I do not have a scale to weigh
> > it, but Ill bet it is 3
> > times the weight of the NavAid servo in my wing. No
> > doubt this servo is of
> > higher quality, but damn.... its heavy. I was not
> > happy sticking that weight
> > in my tailcone back there. Every time I picked it
> > up, my face would crincle
> > in disgust. I seriously considered putting it back
> > in the box and returning
> > it for that reason alone. But I didn't. And I am
> > glad I didn't return it.
> > 2) I get a noise in my headset, through my com, from
> > the servo. Sounds like
> > a high pitched morris code. Faint but irritating.
> > Paperwork said not to
> > bother with shielding wire, so I didn't. But I have
> > noise and now Im going
> > to have to rip the plane apart again and put
> > shielded wire from the tailcone
> > to the cockpit. ARGH!!
> >
> > Ill post some pics and detailed write up on my
> > website in a few days.
> > Mike Stewart
> > 6A
> >
> >
> >
> > Contributions
> > any other
> > Forums.
> >
> > latest messages.
> > List members.
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<http://www.mstewart.net/michael/rv/index.htm>
OK, since the e-mails were coming in at a fast pace, I put office work aside
this morning and posted my installation photos.
Mike Stewart
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| Subject: | Re: Can You Do This, Or will You Fail ? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Vanartsdalen <svanarts@yahoo.com>
I'm not cryin' ... I just got metal shavings in my eyes. I'm going to go hug my
plane!
Do not archive (and no! this isn't sarcasm either, I'm really going to go hug
my plane!)
Austin <6430@axion.net> wrote:<Deleted for brevity
--
For God says, "At just the right time, I heard you. On the day of salvation, I
helped you." Indeed, God is ready to help you right now. Today is the day of
salvation.
2 Corinthians 6:2, New Living Translation
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| Subject: | Austin's writings Was: Can You Do This |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Vanartsdalen <svanarts@yahoo.com>
Just do an archive search. Most of them should be there. This one will be there
too thanks to Jerry S.
Wes <whays@camalott.com> wrote:--> RV-List message posted by: "Wes"
Thank God the wordmeister is back!!!!! Thanks Austin. I really miss your
post. My one regret is that I had all your other ones saved, and when my
drive crashed I lost them. I would re-read them and send them to friends
from time to time. If you have copies I would appreciate you forwarding them
to me. If not, please write more. They lift my spirits and help me keep
things in perspective. I can only wish I was that eloquent.
Wes Hays
Winters, TX
whays@camalott.com
Do not archive
"The Laws of Aerodynamics are unforgiving and the ground is hard."
Michael Collins (1987)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Austin" <6430@axion.net>
Subject: RV-List: Can You Do This, Or will You Fail ?
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Austin" <6430@axion.net>
>
> I have enjoyed reading the banter and exchange of views on the list these
> days, relating to, what was the subject ?, some kid who wanted to fly or
> build or what the heck was it anyway ?
> An RV had to figure in there somehow....
> I do agree that how words jump out from an anonymous keyboard can read
back
> in a very harsh and mainly unintended way as opposed to talking face to
face
> to a person.
> I do this every day and my wife and I practically need an interpreter some
> days....inflection can make a huge difference in whether I get a wooden
> spoon on the head or a glass of wine as a kindness.
> In the case of whether an inquirer asks a group if he can do
> this or what he should do, I honestly think that they should be told
> something like....( in gentle tones)...forget it, you can't do it
> etc...because if that is all it takes to dissuade you from going after a
> dream, then perhaps you don't really want it that bad....
> Like another Rver on this list, I was always told that I couldn't
do
> such and such..would never make it, or didn't deserve it, etc., and that
> only threw gas on the fire for me to prove them wrong..
> Actually, the only real obstacle I had was ..tadaaa....no money......
> I was once asked to take a horse to the starting gate that was barred from
> racing until he behaved...nobody would do it and I was told he would flip
> and go nuts, and part of that was true, and it was scary as hell, but I
did
> it..for me...to see if I could fight down the fear..or fail...
> but when he got rolling, it was like a living P51 in my hands..poetry in
> motion and he and I as one fairly flying in the wind.....the risk this
time
> was worth it ..he was beautiful and a bit nuts..something like my first
girl
> friend...but I grew up a bit that day.
> When I finished the RV after years of work and no flying, and
> certainly nothing before like an RV, I was a bit scared, and tried not to
> show it, but darned if I wasn't going to the gate with this one since I
did
> all the work on it......I got a checkout, and then.......
> At least I wasn't told I could not do this, I climbed aboard, picked up
the
> reins, the bell went, and we were off and climbing and way too busy to
look
> back or register what I was feeling..
> Man, the cumulous look so white and puffy and make my paint reflect the
> bright metallic off the canopy......racing along the edge of it with the
bit
> in her teeth, the needles of the gauges climbing still, I am along the
edge
> of the Pacific in no time..
> My God, that is a lot of water out there and it goes on and on until you
> can't see the end of it....
> Funny, but fear never seemed to play a part in any of it once we ran off
> together, not even when it came time to go back to the barn ....
> First landings are very often the best ones....try to do that again....
> The nicest lyric after the engine's sweet song is the notes of the chirp
as
> first one wheel kisses the tarmac and the other follows right now and I
can
> hear a lot better when the throttle is back.
> Back to the barn to cool out and I don't mind walking around for a half
hour
> while she cools in her beautiful color and makes soft ticking sounds.....I
> never tire of it, and I left my fear aloft somewhere..
> The big surprise in my student flying days with the 140 was there
> was no sensation of blazing speed.
> That only happened when close to the grass for takeoff or
> landing.....followed of course by my mouth and driving style after a
> lesson...so the girl friend claimed....
> An old Air Force instructor short on the bottle and long on valor showed
me
> what flying low and fast and canyon running was all about and I was
> mesmerized by flying.
> I never saw a riverbank twist as fast as a Diamondback like that before
and
> it was so grand..
> I just wanted to fly and I was the only one in my family so
> inclined.
> Why didn't I take up the piano or become an accountant or something
sensible
> like that ?
> Because then, I would never know what I was made of, even if the only one
> who knows or cares is the one who looks back at this old dog in the mirror
> ....
> I can go back to my books and pictures now and read of Corsairs and such
and
> say to the faces seen and unseen....." I can do that "......
> And so can the young fellow who wonders the same..regardless of the
answers
> he gets.....
> Austin
> do not archive
>
>
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For God says, "At just the right time, I heard you. On the day of salvation, I
helped you." Indeed, God is ready to help you right now. Today is the day of
salvation.
2 Corinthians 6:2, New Living Translation
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| Subject: | Trutrak Altrak Alt. Hold Pirep |
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--> RV-List message posted by: mstewart@qa.butler.com
That's interesting. Could 1/2lb. feel that different to me in my hand?
Apparently so. Guess I would have lost my bet on the weight issue. I am
going to have to research this a bit further.
Andrew, is this the weight of the servo and the gismo it is attached to?
Mike Stewart
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: TruTrak Flight Systems [mailto:info@trutrakflightsystems.com]
Subject: Re: RV-List: Trutrak Altrak Alt. Hold Pirep
--> RV-List message posted by: "TruTrak Flight Systems"
<info@trutrakflightsystems.com>
Ross,
In response to your question, the servos that we supply for all of the
RV series aircraft weigh 2.25 lb. The weight of the Navaid servo is 1.7 lb,
as per their website.
Andrew Barker
TruTrak Flight Systems
479-751-0250
www.trutrakap.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ross Schlotthauer" <rdschlotthauer@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Trutrak Altrak Alt. Hold Pirep
> --> RV-List message posted by: Ross Schlotthauer
<rdschlotthauer@yahoo.com>
>
> Mike,
>
> It would be interesting to know how much that puppy
> weighs. I am toying with the idea of putting the
> IO-390 lyc in my 7 with the constant speed prop and
> firewall battery. I belive this will be a little nose
> heavy, so a little tail ballast may not be a bad
> thing.
>
> Ross Schlotthauer
> RV7 Fuse
> Still telling people about the fabulous ride I got in
> Atlanta!
>
>
> --- mstewart@qa.butler.com wrote:
> > --> RV-List message posted by:
> > mstewart@qa.butler.com
> >
> > After reading the pirep report last week I decided
> > it was long overdue,
> > altitude hold was in my future.
> > I fly alot, 800 hours in the past year and one half.
> > And if there is any
> > down side to the flying characterists of the RV, it
> > is the sensitivity in
> > pitch at cruise. I find near 80% of my time IFR is
> > spent managing altitude.
> > Unacceptable I decided early on. But it was not
> > until the Altrak unit came
> > into play that something was affordable enough for
> > me to take the plunge. I
> > tried and tried for 2 years to get Navaid to get
> > into the altitude hold
> > market. I have thuroughly enjoyed the wing unit. But
> > no joy on alt. hold. So
> > off I went to purchase the Altrak unit. Overnighted
> > to my home, installed
> > next day.
> >
> > Installation was pretty easy, 8 hours soup to nuts.
> > I have flown it 4 hours.
> >
> > Thinks I like..
> > 1) Single button on the panel, push it in, green
> > light, and your on. Nice
> > 2) Price/Value is good, especially for me. I fly
> > alot.
> > 3) High quality product, as is seen and felt in
> > playing with the unit
> > 4) hold alt in smooth air +-10ft, lt-mod turb +-30
> > feet
> > 5) turns <20deg +-20 feet, turns <45deg, +-50 feet,
> > turns <45deg +-80feet
> > 6) It is very smooth. I was concerned about feeling
> > the unit operate in my
> > butt, but I can't. I am very happy with that.
> > 7) My 3 hours flying it today, I have so much time
> > on my hands now, I need
> > inflight entertainment, and a coffee maker to keep
> > me awake. It has freed up
> > way more time for other duties, much more than I
> > hopped it would.
> >
> > Things I did not like...
> > 1) Servo is heavy. I do not have a scale to weigh
> > it, but Ill bet it is 3
> > times the weight of the NavAid servo in my wing. No
> > doubt this servo is of
> > higher quality, but damn.... its heavy. I was not
> > happy sticking that weight
> > in my tailcone back there. Every time I picked it
> > up, my face would crincle
> > in disgust. I seriously considered putting it back
> > in the box and returning
> > it for that reason alone. But I didn't. And I am
> > glad I didn't return it.
> > 2) I get a noise in my headset, through my com, from
> > the servo. Sounds like
> > a high pitched morris code. Faint but irritating.
> > Paperwork said not to
> > bother with shielding wire, so I didn't. But I have
> > noise and now Im going
> > to have to rip the plane apart again and put
> > shielded wire from the tailcone
> > to the cockpit. ARGH!!
> >
> > Ill post some pics and detailed write up on my
> > website in a few days.
> > Mike Stewart
> > 6A
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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| Subject: | Re: Parting concern... |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Vanartsdalen <svanarts@yahoo.com>
Both publicly and privately, and in all honesty, thank you for your service to
our country Captian Brock. I've never served in the military. Thanks to men
like you, I don't have to. For whatever part you play in keeping our country
free, I thank you. Whether I agree or disagree with what you posted to this list,
I at least wanted you to know that. I'm sorry to see you leave the list.
I think you bring yet another viewpoint into the mix. I don't know how many
of these lists you've been involved with but I've been involved with many of them
dating back to about 1993 back in my rec.aviation.misc days. I've been flamed
by lots of people for my views. I was even flamed by almost the entire nation
of Australia once. (that's a long story) I've had to eat crow a time or
two when I was sure I was right. I never left a list because of it though.
I'm sure you have your reasons though and I wish you the best of luck. Do not
archive
Vaughn Brock Capt ESC/AWXO <Brock.Vaughn@hanscom.af.mil> wrote:--> RV-List message
posted by: Vaughn Brock Capt ESC/AWXO
Captain, It appears from looking at your e-mail address on your posts, and
the time of the posts, you are passing on your long winded comments while on
duty. As a tax payer, and also as a retired government worker familiar with
SOP's for such employees, I would ask that you stop doing so, and go back to
work. Glenn in AZ -9A.
After trite threats and comments of this nature I believe it would better serve
me not to subscribe to this site any longer. For the record I write while off
duty. The equivalent of what Government civilians would call breaks (lunch, or
similar) and send when I get a chance between putting out fires that my job
consists of. Glenn, we don't have SOPs in the AF and I am on duty 24/7/365 and
don't fall under a duty hour regulation. It appears your familiarity is; through
idle threat and poor sportsmanship. I am glad you don't work for the government
and are retired. For the record I am a tax payer too as you are well aware
of and conveniently left out and insinuated that I wasn't. I cant help but
feel disgusted in your cheap shot at my attempt to guide a young man in an honorable
direction. You're an embarrassment to the building community and the sole
reason I and the expertise I had to offer is no longer available to those who
may have had interest or gained from it i!
n this forum. In a language you will understand, you won Glenn, I'm going bye bye.
The feeling of disappointment in my short membership is only exceeded by the animosity
displayed by the public replies I've received over the past few days.
I'm not sure how open discussion was lost so quickly on such a trivial subject
and the main players only wrote once.
The opportunity to write comments was enjoyable and I really appreciate the 12
strong supporting emails to me directly and the phone calls in regard to the issue
that began as Alternative Engines. To those who are interested in flying
military I am always available for your questions (only during duty hours for
Glenn AZ -9A).
Parting Concern: I am disappointed in some of my fellow writers lack of discretion
and flat out deception. Supporting me privately and bashing me publicly is
poor integrity and an area I would rather bow out of and not associate. The three
of you should be more considerate in your future correspondence. I will follow
your request and not post your words (that's called integrity by the way).
Matt, please keep my donation and good luck with your site.
Jeff, You don't have an eye problem until the Flight Doctor puts it in writing
and DQs you. Your motivation is too weak as of today to make it to the physical
exam. That is step one of 1000 steps over the next 4 years. You have my number
and if you have what it takes, I will lead you in the direction to your goal
of flying professionally, in the strongest airline in the world (USAF). I wont
hold you hand, you have this site for that. I will lead you to something bigger
than you think you were ever capable of doing and being part of something
some of the writers who support you will never get or comprehend. It takes courage,
brains and guts.. Are you up to it? At one time in my life I made airplane
noises, looked at pictures of airplanes and dreamed of flying too. I was 5
years old then. Time to get a plan and do it Jeff...
Regretfully: Please un-subscribe
Very Respectful
Brock Vaughn 781 354-6656
--
For God says, "At just the right time, I heard you. On the day of salvation, I
helped you." Indeed, God is ready to help you right now. Today is the day of
salvation.
2 Corinthians 6:2, New Living Translation
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| Subject: | Re: Parting concern...(rant, delete if you really don't care) |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Vanartsdalen <svanarts@yahoo.com>
Well... he's right. Not many other airlines can shot back if shot at. Why does
everyone get so worked up on these lists? They're just words on a screen.
rv6tc <rv6tc@earthlink.net> wrote:--> RV-List message posted by: "rv6tc"
Only since it seems to have somehow ruffled my feathers.....
To the List of people who care (probably very few), since the good Captain
has left the stage....
I have absolutely no idea what he though he meant by comparing the Air Force
and an airline. I've worked for both, and there is very little if anything
to compare. Both operate airplanes, but that is where the comparison ends.
Maybe he was just looking for a "cute" turn of phrase, as he seems to
stretch his eloquence to the brink, but the comparison is wholly inaccurate.
Forgive me for being as thin skinned as the good Captain appears to be.
Sorry for the rant,
Keith Hughes
RV-6, finish
Denver
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vaughn Brock Capt ESC/AWXO"
. You have my number and if you have what it takes, I will lead you in the
direction to your goal of flying professionally, in the strongest airline in
the world (USAF).
>
> Brock Vaughn 781 354-6656
>
--
For God says, "At just the right time, I heard you. On the day of salvation, I
helped you." Indeed, God is ready to help you right now. Today is the day of
salvation.
2 Corinthians 6:2, New Living Translation
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| Subject: | Re: Altrak installation pics are up |
--> RV-List message posted by: Finn Lassen <finnlassen@netzero.net>
Now I see why it has to be so heavy: look at that short arm.
How many amp does it pull at full force?
Finn
mstewart@qa.butler.com wrote:
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>
>http://www.mstewart.net/michael/rv/index.htm
><http://www.mstewart.net/michael/rv/index.htm>
>
>
>OK, since the e-mails were coming in at a fast pace, I put office work aside
>this morning and posted my installation photos.
>
>
>Mike Stewart
>
>
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>
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| Subject: | E-Bay shopping (was: Need help, but waaaaaay off subject!) |
--> RV-List message posted by: Bill Dube <bdube@boulder.nist.gov>
The key to getting great deals on E-Bay is clever searching. The best
deals will be listed in the wrong category and have a title that is not
very descriptive. Often, folks will misspell key words. Thus, "ordinary"
searches will miss these items completely and you will have very few folks
bidding against you.
I bought an artificial horizon for $9.99. It was listed in "Collectables"
and I was the only one bidding. I got a pneumatic rivet squeezer cheap
because the fellow put "rivit squeazer" in the title and listed it under
"Air Tools."
Learn ALL the features of the E-Bay search engine and you will get
super-duper deals.
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| Subject: | Re: Austin's writings Was: Can You Do This |
--> RV-List message posted by: Tedd McHenry <tedd@vansairforce.org>
There is a collection of some of Austin's best work on the Western Canada Wing
web site.
http://www.vansairforce.org/6430/
---
Tedd McHenry
Surrey, BC
-6 wings
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| Subject: | Altrak installation pics are up |
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--> RV-List message posted by: mstewart@qa.butler.com
I wired it originally to a 1 amp breaker, since I had that already in my
panel from the EZ trim unit. It threw that after about 2 min in level
flight. I changed it out to a 5 amp and that was sufficient at full force.
Paperwork says module .3 amps, servo 1 amp.
Mike Stewart
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: Finn Lassen [mailto:finnlassen@netzero.net]
Subject: Re: RV-List: Altrak installation pics are up
--> RV-List message posted by: Finn Lassen <finnlassen@netzero.net>
Now I see why it has to be so heavy: look at that short arm.
How many amp does it pull at full force?
Finn
mstewart@qa.butler.com wrote:
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>http://www.mstewart.net/michael/rv/index.htm
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>OK, since the e-mails were coming in at a fast pace, I put office work
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>this morning and posted my installation photos.
>
>
>Mike Stewart
>
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| Subject: | Re: Re : does top front panel carry load? |
--> RV-List message posted by: kempthornes <kempthornes@earthlink.net>
I haven't cut many holes that Van doesn't call for but I did cut one in the
wing skin.
I have an opening about 4 by 6 in the underside near the tip. It has an
openable door and will have a camera inside. The opening has a doubler all
around it. The doubler is made in two parts with the joints in the center
of a side rather than at the corners.
I suspect that two small holes for access to the backside of the panel
would be stronger than one large one. I also suspect that the holes should
be as far from sheet edges as possible, just as you would make a hole in a
beam. Round holes would seem to be easier to make and probably stronger.
I do wonder if it is worth the effort.
How about a sling that would allow you to hang suspended, face up, above
the floor of the plane.
K. H. (Hal) Kempthorne
RV6-a N7HK flying!
PRB (El Paso de Robles, CA)
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| Subject: | Re: Altrak installation pics are up |
--> RV-List message posted by: RGray67968@aol.com
Shhhhhssssss man...........get to work will ya'...........waaaaaaayyyyyy too
much time on your hands dude!!
Rick at the Buffalo Farm
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| Subject: | Altrak installation pics are up |
--> RV-List message posted by: RGray67968@aol.com
Listers,
Sorry, this was supposed to go to Mike.
Rick Gray RV6 (Ohio) at the Buffalo Farm
do not archive
> Shhhhhssssss man...........get to work will ya'...........waaaaaaayyyyyy too
>
> much time on your hands dude!!
> Rick at the Buffalo Farm
>
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| Subject: | From The Ground Up |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Patrick Kelley" <webmaster@flion.com>
You have permission from The Discovery Channel to distribute this?
Patrick Kelley - RV-6A - Fuselage structure still being primered
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Nick N
Subject: RE: RV-List: From The Ground Up
--> RV-List message posted by: "Nick N" <rvator@nicknaf.com>
For all those that are interested I posted Episode 3 on my website
tonight. It's NOT small (190 MG) so Dial-Up users will be there a week
or two. :D New episodes will be added as they appear on DWNGs.
Eventually hope to have all 13. These are HUGE I understand, but the
quality is outstanding. If anyone has a good program for manipulation
(resizing, saving different formats, etc.) of MPEG1 files, it would
appreciated! In the mean time: they are 1.05MPS MPEG1's, with
commercials removed, that can be converted to VCD's.
http://www.nicknaf.com/multimedia
Nick
Lincoln, NE
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| Subject: | Re: Trutrak Altrak Alt. Hold Pirep |
--> RV-List message posted by: "TruTrak Flight Systems" <info@trutrakflightsystems.com>
The "servo" is the entire assembly, less mounting bracket.
Andrew Barker
TruTrak Flight Systems
479-751-0250
www.trutrakap.com
----- Original Message -----
From: <mstewart@qa.butler.com>
Subject: RE: RV-List: Trutrak Altrak Alt. Hold Pirep
> --> RV-List message posted by: mstewart@qa.butler.com
>
> That's interesting. Could 1/2lb. feel that different to me in my hand?
> Apparently so. Guess I would have lost my bet on the weight issue. I am
> going to have to research this a bit further.
>
> Andrew, is this the weight of the servo and the gismo it is attached to?
>
> Mike Stewart
> Do not archive
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TruTrak Flight Systems [mailto:info@trutrakflightsystems.com]
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Trutrak Altrak Alt. Hold Pirep
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "TruTrak Flight Systems"
> <info@trutrakflightsystems.com>
>
> Ross,
> In response to your question, the servos that we supply for all of the
> RV series aircraft weigh 2.25 lb. The weight of the Navaid servo is 1.7
lb,
> as per their website.
>
> Andrew Barker
> TruTrak Flight Systems
> 479-751-0250
> www.trutrakap.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ross Schlotthauer" <rdschlotthauer@yahoo.com>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Trutrak Altrak Alt. Hold Pirep
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: Ross Schlotthauer
> <rdschlotthauer@yahoo.com>
> >
> > Mike,
> >
> > It would be interesting to know how much that puppy
> > weighs. I am toying with the idea of putting the
> > IO-390 lyc in my 7 with the constant speed prop and
> > firewall battery. I belive this will be a little nose
> > heavy, so a little tail ballast may not be a bad
> > thing.
> >
> > Ross Schlotthauer
> > RV7 Fuse
> > Still telling people about the fabulous ride I got in
> > Atlanta!
> >
> >
> > --- mstewart@qa.butler.com wrote:
> > > --> RV-List message posted by:
> > > mstewart@qa.butler.com
> > >
> > > After reading the pirep report last week I decided
> > > it was long overdue,
> > > altitude hold was in my future.
> > > I fly alot, 800 hours in the past year and one half.
> > > And if there is any
> > > down side to the flying characterists of the RV, it
> > > is the sensitivity in
> > > pitch at cruise. I find near 80% of my time IFR is
> > > spent managing altitude.
> > > Unacceptable I decided early on. But it was not
> > > until the Altrak unit came
> > > into play that something was affordable enough for
> > > me to take the plunge. I
> > > tried and tried for 2 years to get Navaid to get
> > > into the altitude hold
> > > market. I have thuroughly enjoyed the wing unit. But
> > > no joy on alt. hold. So
> > > off I went to purchase the Altrak unit. Overnighted
> > > to my home, installed
> > > next day.
> > >
> > > Installation was pretty easy, 8 hours soup to nuts.
> > > I have flown it 4 hours.
> > >
> > > Thinks I like..
> > > 1) Single button on the panel, push it in, green
> > > light, and your on. Nice
> > > 2) Price/Value is good, especially for me. I fly
> > > alot.
> > > 3) High quality product, as is seen and felt in
> > > playing with the unit
> > > 4) hold alt in smooth air +-10ft, lt-mod turb +-30
> > > feet
> > > 5) turns <20deg +-20 feet, turns <45deg, +-50 feet,
> > > turns <45deg +-80feet
> > > 6) It is very smooth. I was concerned about feeling
> > > the unit operate in my
> > > butt, but I can't. I am very happy with that.
> > > 7) My 3 hours flying it today, I have so much time
> > > on my hands now, I need
> > > inflight entertainment, and a coffee maker to keep
> > > me awake. It has freed up
> > > way more time for other duties, much more than I
> > > hopped it would.
> > >
> > > Things I did not like...
> > > 1) Servo is heavy. I do not have a scale to weigh
> > > it, but Ill bet it is 3
> > > times the weight of the NavAid servo in my wing. No
> > > doubt this servo is of
> > > higher quality, but damn.... its heavy. I was not
> > > happy sticking that weight
> > > in my tailcone back there. Every time I picked it
> > > up, my face would crincle
> > > in disgust. I seriously considered putting it back
> > > in the box and returning
> > > it for that reason alone. But I didn't. And I am
> > > glad I didn't return it.
> > > 2) I get a noise in my headset, through my com, from
> > > the servo. Sounds like
> > > a high pitched morris code. Faint but irritating.
> > > Paperwork said not to
> > > bother with shielding wire, so I didn't. But I have
> > > noise and now Im going
> > > to have to rip the plane apart again and put
> > > shielded wire from the tailcone
> > > to the cockpit. ARGH!!
> > >
> > > Ill post some pics and detailed write up on my
> > > website in a few days.
> > > Mike Stewart
> > > 6A
> > >
> > >
> > >
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| Subject: | Re: Parting concern...(rant, delete if you really don't care) |
--> RV-List message posted by: "John D. & Rose" <altoq@direcway.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Vanartsdalen" <svanarts@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Parting concern...(rant, delete if you really don't
care)
> --> RV-List message posted by: Scott Vanartsdalen <svanarts@yahoo.com>
>
> Well... he's right. Not many other airlines can shot back if shot at. Why
does everyone get so worked up on these lists? They're just words on a
screen.
>
> rv6tc <rv6tc@earthlink.net> wrote:--> RV-List message posted by: "rv6tc"
>
> Only since it seems to have somehow ruffled my feathers.....
>
> To the List of people who care (probably very few), since the good Captain
> has left the stage....
>
> I have absolutely no idea what he though he meant by comparing the Air
Force
> and an airline
> Do not archive
>
>
You know, I can't figure it out either. So far as I know the U.S.Air Force
has never gone bankrupt.
AltoQ
DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
> ---------------------------------
>
>
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| Subject: | Canopy Skirt Vibration |
--> RV-List message posted by: Gary Graham <beeb@teleport.com>
RV-8 N43TK flew Sun 4/27/03. All was great except for a vibrating canopy
skirt. The vibration was severe ( popped a couple of the Al pop rivets on
the skirt near the boat tail) at the higher speeds and resonated at
different rpms. Cause is yet to be determined, but likely connected to air
flow in or out of the canopy(skirt) near the back. The noise was bad
enough to disrupt radio communications.
Have any of you experienced this problem and what did you do about it?
For Scott Gustafson <gustafins@canby.com> Oregon
GG
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy Skirt Vibration |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
This sounds potentally dangerous. When the canopy is clamped shut can you
move the canopy at all front to back and side to side? Does the canopy
touch the fuse all around?
At 01:10 PM 4/28/03 -0700, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Gary Graham <beeb@teleport.com>
>
>RV-8 N43TK flew Sun 4/27/03. All was great except for a vibrating canopy
>skirt. The vibration was severe ( popped a couple of the Al pop rivets on
>the skirt near the boat tail) at the higher speeds and resonated at
>different rpms. Cause is yet to be determined, but likely connected to air
>flow in or out of the canopy(skirt) near the back. The noise was bad
>enough to disrupt radio communications.
>
>Have any of you experienced this problem and what did you do about it?
>
>For Scott Gustafson <gustafins@canby.com> Oregon
>
>GG
>
>
Scott Bilinski
Eng dept 305
Phone (858) 657-2536
Pager (858) 502-5190
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| Subject: | Rebuilding your engine |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Gordon Robertson" <res0rlvx@verizon.net>
>>Bottom line is, rebuilding your own engine is very doable and is kind of
fun.
Does this impact the insurability of the aircraft? In other words, by
rebuilding it yourself, you have an engine (re)built by an non-certified
mechanic. On that same vein, what about the Superior XP360 or XP20
do-it-yourself engine?
Gordon Robertson
RV-8
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"vansairforce" <vansairforce@yahoogroups.com>
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com>
Anyone know the name of those little spring loaded hole thingies you put in
your wheel pants to get to the valve stem? Also, isn't there an extension
available for that too?
Thanks!
-Bill
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"vansairforce" <vansairforce@yahoogroups.com>
| Subject: | EAA Ch 808 Fly-In Breakfast this Saturday... |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com>
EAA Chapter 808 in Pueblo, CO is having a Fly-In Breakfast this Saturday,
May
3rd!
The event will take place at the Fremont County Airport (1V6), starting at
7:00AM!
More info: www.eaa808.org
-Bill
RV-8A
www.vondane.com
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy Skirt Vibration |
--> RV-List message posted by: Dwpetrus@aol.com
I had that type of vibration and after using some felt weatherstriping around
the gaps it went away. Also, I used some foam rubber at the very rear to
seal the center track hole. Congrats on your airplane I have close to 100
hrs. on mine now and it has been a blast.
Wayne Petrus
RV8A (flying)
Louisiana
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy Skirt Vibration |
--> RV-List message posted by: Dwpetrus@aol.com
Also, check to see of your exhaust pipes are rubbing on the aluminum where
they exit the bottom of the cowling.
Wayne Petrus
RV8A
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| Subject: | EAA Chapter 90 sponsoring Oakdale Airport Apprication Day |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Vanartsdalen <svanarts@yahoo.com>
Bill Von D. reminded me that EAA Chapter 90 is sponsoring our annual Airport Appreciation
Day. We'll be having a pancake breakfast as well. Also lunch, crafts
for the kids, Young Eagle rides, and your normal assortment of craft booths
you find at any event. So if you can't make it to Bill's event, consider dropping
in at Oakdale (O27).
--
For God says, "At just the right time, I heard you. On the day of salvation, I
helped you." Indeed, God is ready to help you right now. Today is the day of
salvation.
2 Corinthians 6:2, New Living Translation
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| Subject: | Re: Rebuilding your engine |
--> RV-List message posted by: <ktlkrn@cox.net>
Good topic!!! I just picked up a TIO540 for my Aerocomp and was thinking
about trying to rebuild it myself. I'm a handy guy and think I could do a
good job. Is there any books or manuals out there for a step by step method?
Darwin N. Barrie
Chandler AZ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gordon Robertson" <res0rlvx@verizon.net>
Subject: RV-List: Rebuilding your engine
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Gordon Robertson" <res0rlvx@verizon.net>
>
> >>Bottom line is, rebuilding your own engine is very doable and is kind of
> fun.
>
>
> Does this impact the insurability of the aircraft? In other words, by
> rebuilding it yourself, you have an engine (re)built by an non-certified
> mechanic. On that same vein, what about the Superior XP360 or XP20
> do-it-yourself engine?
>
> Gordon Robertson
> RV-8
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy Skirt Vibration |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright" <kyle.boatright@adelphia.net>
My guess is that the canopy skirt is vibrating due to air being sucked into
the cockpit. This is how a clarinet or a sax makes a musical tone, but yours
is a lower frequency and has greater amplitude. Open the vents fully and/or
seal the leaks around the skirt and I imagine the vibration will dissipate.
KB
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Graham" <beeb@teleport.com>
Subject: RV-List: Canopy Skirt Vibration
> --> RV-List message posted by: Gary Graham <beeb@teleport.com>
>
> RV-8 N43TK flew Sun 4/27/03. All was great except for a vibrating canopy
> skirt. The vibration was severe ( popped a couple of the Al pop rivets on
> the skirt near the boat tail) at the higher speeds and resonated at
> different rpms. Cause is yet to be determined, but likely connected to
air
> flow in or out of the canopy(skirt) near the back. The noise was bad
> enough to disrupt radio communications.
>
> Have any of you experienced this problem and what did you do about it?
>
> For Scott Gustafson <gustafins@canby.com> Oregon
>
> GG
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: Bill Dube <bdube@boulder.nist.gov>
At 03:24 PM 4/28/2003, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com>
>
>Anyone know the name of those little spring loaded hole thingies you put in
>your wheel pants to get to the valve stem?
http://www5.mailordercentral.com/clevtool/prodinfo.asp?number=VCC1&variation=&aitem=2&mitem=10
> Also, isn't there an extension
>available for that too?
http://www5.mailordercentral.com/clevtool/prodinfo.asp?number=VCE5&variation=&aitem=1&mitem=10
I would suppose that electrical knock-out plugs would serve the
same function, might cost a few pennies less.
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Evan and Megan Johnson" <evmeg@snowcrest.net>
Aircraft Spruce calls them "camlock access doors for wheel pants" Part
number KM713-16-064......$9.30 each in my catalog. Its the 01/02 catalog and
they can be found on pg 103......hope these are the doohickies you are
looking for. Around here we call them thingamajigs.
Evan @ proseal headquarters
www.evansaviationproducts.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com>
<vansairforce@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RV-List: doo-hickeys
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com>
>
> Anyone know the name of those little spring loaded hole thingies you put
in
> your wheel pants to get to the valve stem? Also, isn't there an extension
> available for that too?
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Bill
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy Skirt Vibration |
--> RV-List message posted by: RV4PatA@aol.com
In a message dated 4/28/3 3:15:02 PM, beeb@teleport.com writes:
<<All was great except for a vibrating canopy
skirt. >>
I had the vibrating skirt thing with my -4 and solved it by running a strip
of 3/4" velcro (the fuzzy stuff) around the skirt where it contacts the
fuselage. So far, so good, after a few months. Hopefully the heat of the sun
will not affect the adhesive. Hope this helps.
Pat Allender
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy Skirt Vibration |
--> RV-List message posted by: RV4PatA@aol.com
In a message dated 4/28/3 3:15:02 PM, beeb@teleport.com writes:
<<All was great except for a vibrating canopy
skirt. >>
I had the vibrating skirt thing with my -4 and solved it by running a strip
of 3/4" velcro (the fuzzy stuff) around the skirt where it contacts the
fuselage. So far, so good, after a few months. Hopefully the heat of the sun
will not affect the adhesive. Hope this helps.
Pat Allender
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| Subject: | Re: Rebuilding your engine |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Aircraft Technical Book Company" <winterland@rkymtnhi.com>
Not quite step by step, but some recomended items are:
1] Lycoming Direct Drive Overhaul manual
2] appropriate parts catalog
3] Mattituck Overhaul Video - closest to your engine is the one for the
IO-360
4] Skyranch Engineering Manual
further descriptions for all on Builder's Bookstore - Engine Maintenance
section
Andy
Builder's Bookstore
http://buildersbooks.com
800 780-4115
> Good topic!!! I just picked up a TIO540 for my Aerocomp and was thinking
> about trying to rebuild it myself. I'm a handy guy and think I could do a
> good job. Is there any books or manuals out there for a step by step
method?
>
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| Subject: | Re: Flight Testing |
--> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorto1537@rogers.com>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "willfly" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
>
>I'm starting to think about flight testing and I'm looking for a value in
>mph for Vpls on the RV - 8. I'm looking for Vpls no flaps, half
>flaps and full flaps.
>
>Vpls Predicted lift off speed.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Steve Glasgow
>
Steve,
I suspect that things will happen quickly enough on that first take
off that you won't find much time to look at the ASI until after you
are already airborne.
Also, the indicated lift off speed will depend on the aircraft
weight, flap angle used, pilot technique, the instrument errors in
your ASI and any position errors in your pitot and static system.
Each aircraft is unique, and has its own instrument and position
errors. So even if two aircraft lift off at the same calibrated
airspeed, the indicated airspeeds will likely be different. In other
words, just because Joe Blow says his RV lifts off at 50 mph, doesn't
mean that would be a good number for yours, even if you had time to
look at the ASI.
So, I recommend you just go fly, and figure out for your self what
airspeeds you and your -8 like. Of course, you should take a quick
glance at the ASI during the take-off roll just to make sure that it
is actually indicating, and isn't sitting at zero. A dead ASI on the
first flight is probably more excitement than you really need.
If you are looking for flight test info, I've got a pretty good set
of links on my web site. Select the Links link at the top of the
page, and go from there. I am always looking for new links, so if
anyone knows of good flight test info that isn't linked from my site,
please let me know about it.
--
Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit)
Ottawa, Canada
http://go.phpwebhosting.com/~khorton/rv8/
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--> RV-List message posted by: kempthornes <kempthornes@earthlink.net>
At 03:24 PM 4/28/2003 -0600, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com>
>
>Anyone know the name of those little spring loaded hole thingies you put in
>your wheel pants to get to the valve stem? Also, isn't there an extension
>available for that too?
I put metal hole plugs in the one inch round holes in my wheel pants. I've
heard them called 'snap plugs' too. I have here on my desk a package
labeled 'Nylon Hole Plug 3/8" White" for example. Hardware store.
I used a hose - stiff and about eight inches long with proper tire valve
ends. One end takes the air fill connection the other end screws onto the
tire valve. I think I had to buy two and might still have one ...
K. H. (Hal) Kempthorne
RV6-a N7HK flying!
PRB (El Paso de Robles, CA)
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy Skirt Vibration |
--> RV-List message posted by: RV4PatA@aol.com
In a message dated 4/28/3 3:15:02 PM, beeb@teleport.com writes:
<<All was great except for a vibrating canopy
skirt. >>
I had the vibrating skirt thing with my -4 and solved it by running a strip
of 3/4" velcro (the fuzzy stuff) around the skirt where it contacts the
fuselage. So far, so good, after a few months. Hopefully the heat of the sun
will not affect the adhesive. Hope this helps.
Pat Allender
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| Subject: | Paying for engine break-in |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
Aerosport Power says they'll run my overhauled engine on the test stand for
1 - 1.5 hours, and I can pay them $100 per hour to run it for an extended
period of time.
What's the current thinking about doing this for part or all of the
theoretical break-in time? I can't fathom paying $1000, but maybe a few
hundred bucks if it's going to save me some sweaty time staring at redlined
CHTs.
Thoughts?
Thanks in advance,
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (finish)
http://www.rvproject.com
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Eustace Bowhay" <ebowhay@jetstream.net>
Hi Bill:
They are readily available at our Lordco Auto Parts.
The invoice definition is "Papco Hole Plug" and come in three different
sizes, from 3/8-3/4 and run around .75 each. The part # I have is 314024,
314026, 314030 for three different sizes. I use them on the 6A. The valve
core extension is also available, gotta watch this as the cheapy you get at
a tire shop will let air out as you unscrew it.
I use the six sided valve caps, then they can be removed with a short piece
of rubber tubing that will fit tightly over the cap, this way it doesn't
fall out when you are putting it on.
I air my main wheels the same way so I don't wear the anchor nuts out taking
the nose half off on the wheel covers.
Eustace
From: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com>
<vansairforce@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RV-List: doo-hickeys
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com>
>
> Anyone know the name of those little spring loaded hole thingies you put
in
> your wheel pants to get to the valve stem? Also, isn't there an extension
> available for that too?
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Bill
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Rebuilding your engine |
--> RV-List message posted by: kempthornes <kempthornes@earthlink.net>
At 03:11 PM 4/28/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: <ktlkrn@cox.net>
>
>Good topic!!! I just picked up a TIO540 for my Aerocomp and was thinking
>about trying to rebuild it myself. I'm a handy guy and think I could do a
>good job. Is there any books or manuals out there for a step by step method?
I wish you were closer to Paso Robles. I would like to get some experience
with aircraft engines, especially at some else's expense. I've rebuilt
more than 200 engines - many of them weird.
Step 0. Make sure you have a clean, well lighted place to work. Ideally,
an engine stand. Ditto the right tools.
Step 1. Tear the engine down. *IF* the engine is a blow up, I would truck
it to an A&P or, better, an engine shop, and see if there are any special
considerations for the rebuild.
Step 2. Clean all. Be sure you know all the "secret passages" and get the
crud out of them. Dirt kills.
Step 3. Inspect. Throw bad parts in the trash, suspect parts in the truck
to ask the A&P about.
Step 4. Measure the parts to see if they are serviceable enough for you.
\______
(know what this means!)
Step 5. Visit banker, order parts, send repairable parts out.
Step 6. Re-inspect repaired parts.
Step 7. Oil everything. Special stuff on the camshaft??
Step 8. Assemble the engine.
Step 9. Install.
Step 10. Run up as prescribed in manuals - do a leak check.
K. H. (Hal) Kempthorne
RV6-a N7HK flying!
PRB (El Paso de Robles, CA)
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--> RV-List message posted by: "John Starn" <jhstarn@earthlink.net>
The plumbing term is a "cock hole cover" and available at any plumbing
supply store. I know it's not the Politicaly Correct term but it's what they
were called. We used the standard 1 1/2" size. Went to our local NAPA Auto
parts and got a "truck tire extention" it's the same size as the valve caps
that we got at the same place and about 3" long. We cut out a "donut" out of
.040 scrap 1/2 wide that matched the "plug" and rivited it to the inner side
of the pant. We also use a paint stick to mark the tire thats exposed at the
botton of the pant when the hole and the stem are lined up. A little yellow
mark an inch long at the bottom most part of the tire/rim. A nut driver that
fits the cap and the extention is now part of our traveling tool bag.
KABONG Do Not Archive HRII N561FS
----- Original Message -----
From: "kempthornes" <kempthornes@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: doo-hickeys
> --> RV-List message posted by: kempthornes <kempthornes@earthlink.net>
>
> At 03:24 PM 4/28/2003 -0600, you wrote:
> >--> RV-List message posted by: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com>
> >
> >Anyone know the name of those little spring loaded hole thingies you put
in
> >your wheel pants to get to the valve stem? Also, isn't there an
extension
> >available for that too?
> I put metal hole plugs in the one inch round holes in my wheel pants.
I've
> heard them called 'snap plugs' too. I have here on my desk a package
> labeled 'Nylon Hole Plug 3/8" White" for example. Hardware store.
>
> I used a hose - stiff and about eight inches long with proper tire valve
> ends. One end takes the air fill connection the other end screws onto the
> tire valve. I think I had to buy two and might still have one ...
>
>
> K. H. (Hal) Kempthorne
> RV6-a N7HK flying!
> PRB (El Paso de Robles, CA)
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Paying for engine break-in |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright" <kyle.boatright@adelphia.net>
Dan,
My $0.02...
I would gladly accept the 1-1.5 hour break in from Aerosport. That should
tell you if the engine runs properly, and should weed out any problems that
would cause a quick failure. Also, the rings would begin to seat (and the
first hour or two are by far the most critical). Unless you have a real
problem, you shouldn't have high CHT's. I've never seen anything over 425,
and that's only after a steep climb out after extended ground running.
If I was you, I wouldn't spring for the additional factory break-in. I
don't think it offers much value. Why not complete the break-in your
fly-off peroid?
If you choose to forgo the additional factory break-in, you will want to
minimize ground running until you have 10 hours or more on the engine. You
should really avoid signficiant ground running until you have 50 hours or so
on the engine, and most of that 50 hours needs to be at a high power
setting.
KB
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
Subject: RV-List: Paying for engine break-in
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
>
> Aerosport Power says they'll run my overhauled engine on the test stand
for
> 1 - 1.5 hours, and I can pay them $100 per hour to run it for an extended
> period of time.
>
> What's the current thinking about doing this for part or all of the
> theoretical break-in time? I can't fathom paying $1000, but maybe a few
> hundred bucks if it's going to save me some sweaty time staring at
redlined
> CHTs.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> )_( Dan
> RV-7 N714D (finish)
> http://www.rvproject.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Paying for engine break-in |
--> RV-List message posted by: "John Huft" <aflyer@direcway.com>
Well, I had Lycon run my engine for 7 hours, but that is because with home
base at 7650 msl, I couldn't develop enough power to properly break the
engine in anywhere in my test area.
I would think for a kilobuck, you could sweat a little. Or, hire someone
local to fly your plane for a few hours...I bet you get plenty of volunteers
:0)
P.S. Dan, what happened to your N-number finder?
John, RV8 80 hours, Pagosa Springs, CO
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Dan Checkoway
Subject: RV-List: Paying for engine break-in
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
Aerosport Power says they'll run my overhauled engine on the test stand for
1 - 1.5 hours, and I can pay them $100 per hour to run it for an extended
period of time.
What's the current thinking about doing this for part or all of the
theoretical break-in time? I can't fathom paying $1000, but maybe a few
hundred bucks if it's going to save me some sweaty time staring at redlined
CHTs.
Thoughts?
Thanks in advance,
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (finish)
http://www.rvproject.com
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
Button plugs NAS451-size number They run from #39 which plug a 1/8" hole
to #38 which will plug a 3" Hole, Honest. #3 is 5/16' #51 is 1" #35 is a 2"
They also have different panel thickness which I presume is the reason for
the weird numbers. these are cad or zinc plated. Your hardware store will
have a plastic version which is much better. The electrical department will
have plugs for electrical knockout openings as well.
Cy Galley, TC - Chair, Emergency Aircraft Repair, Oshkosh
Editor, EAA Safety Programs
cgalley@qcbc.org or experimenter@eaa.org
Always looking for articles for the Experimenter
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Dube" <bdube@boulder.nist.gov>
Subject: Re: RV-List: doo-hickeys
> --> RV-List message posted by: Bill Dube <bdube@boulder.nist.gov>
>
> At 03:24 PM 4/28/2003, you wrote:
> >--> RV-List message posted by: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com>
> >
> >Anyone know the name of those little spring loaded hole thingies you put
in
> >your wheel pants to get to the valve stem?
>
>
http://www5.mailordercentral.com/clevtool/prodinfo.asp?number=VCC1&variation
=&aitem=2&mitem=10
>
> > Also, isn't there an extension
> >available for that too?
>
>
http://www5.mailordercentral.com/clevtool/prodinfo.asp?number=VCE5&variation
=&aitem=1&mitem=10
>
> I would suppose that electrical knock-out plugs would serve the
> same function, might cost a few pennies less.
>
>
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| Subject: | trailering my RV-4 |
--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Patterson <scc_ron@yahoo.com>
Hello Guys, I have the need to move my RV-4 from the shop where it was built to
the airport. Have about 4-6 months of engine work and avionics and then it will
be ready for inspection and that 'first flight'. Anybody have any suggestions
on how to move this aircraft, safely, some 250 miles??? I thought of an enclosed
moving van, but the horizontal stabilizer is 100" tip to tip ...most trucks
are a max of 96" (outside box measurements). I could tilt it, but fear the
tying down would result in tweaking of the Fuselage. What about a car trailer
with the tail exposed?? I just don't want to screw up 4 years of work in a poorly
conceived transfer. So....any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Ron PattersonN. California
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| Subject: | trailering my RV-4 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@usjet.net>
Hello Ron,
I don't know about specific CA laws regarding trailers, but I believe
most states limit width to 96". Take the tail parts off, there are only
a handful of bolts, and would only take about an hour to do.
Don't forget, most agree that once moved to an airport, work takes three
times as long, so only move it when it is not possible to go any further
in the shop.
Alex Peterson
Maple Grove, MN
RV6-A N66AP 294 hours
www.rvforum.org MAY 31st!! Check it Out!!
> --> RV-List message posted by: Ron Patterson <scc_ron@yahoo.com>
>
> Hello Guys, I have the need to move my RV-4 from the shop
> where it was built to the airport. Have about 4-6 months of
> engine work and avionics and then it will be ready for
> inspection and that 'first flight'. Anybody have any
> suggestions on how to move this aircraft, safely, some 250
> miles??? I thought of an enclosed moving van, but the
> horizontal stabilizer is 100" tip to tip ...most trucks are a
> max of 96" (outside box measurements). I could tilt it, but
> fear the tying down would result in tweaking of the Fuselage.
> What about a car trailer with the tail exposed?? I just don't
> want to screw up 4 years of work in a poorly conceived
> transfer. So....any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
> Thanks! Ron PattersonN. California
>
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| Subject: | Re: Paying for engine break-in |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Besing" <azpilot@extremezone.com>
FWIW, my Aerosport O-360 had about an hour on it from various ground runs
before I flew. When it flew, I had some high CHT's, but never had a real
problem. The rings seated great, as the compressions at the last annual
were perfect, and the airplane had 100 hours on it.
Bart builds a great engine out the door, and in my opinion doesn't need any
special care as far as a pre-break in is concerned. He does a test stand on
it anyway, and it starts the break in process there.
Paul Besing
RV-6A Sold (Waiting on RV-10)
http://www.lacodeworks.com/besing
Kitlog Builder's Log Software
http://www.kitlog.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
Subject: RV-List: Paying for engine break-in
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
>
> Aerosport Power says they'll run my overhauled engine on the test stand
for
> 1 - 1.5 hours, and I can pay them $100 per hour to run it for an extended
> period of time.
>
> What's the current thinking about doing this for part or all of the
> theoretical break-in time? I can't fathom paying $1000, but maybe a few
> hundred bucks if it's going to save me some sweaty time staring at
redlined
> CHTs.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> )_( Dan
> RV-7 N714D (finish)
> http://www.rvproject.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Paying for engine break-in |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
Thanks for the advice on break-in everybody...I'll just take it as-is from
Bart, save my money for 100LL, and keep an eye on the temps.
> P.S. Dan, what happened to your N-number finder?
Sorry about that. My server is being moved (I just moved), and only the
static HTML stuff is alive right now. I should have all of my crap up and
running in full by tomorrow.
)_( Dan
do not archive
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| Subject: | EIS fuel flow meter position |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Amit Dagan" <amitdagan@hotmail.com>
For those with a firewall mounted gascolator on a side-by-side model, who
have the Grand Rapids EIS engine monitor system, where did you position your
fuel flow sensor ?
Thanks,
Amit.
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| Subject: | electrical power / current consumption |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Amit Dagan" <amitdagan@hotmail.com>
For the following items, how many Amps should I plan for when wiring:
Landing light (55 watt)
Starter
Turn coordinator
Clock
Altitude encoder
Electric flap motor
Electronic ignition
Alternator field
Thank you much,
Amit.
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy Skirt Vibration |
--> RV-List message posted by: "DEREK REED" <dreed@cdsnet.net>
FWIW
I had a similar but very slight situation on my RV6A. Also much cold air
around the back of my neck.
Made a series of 1.0" dia holes at the bottom of the baggage compartment
bulkhead, [8 each side, in two rows of four ] This lets the air into the
fuselage at the back instead of creating a pressurized cockpit which could
be some of the problem when it tries to escape and causes some of the
vibration.
Derek Reed
> <<All was great except for a vibrating canopy
> skirt. >>
>
> I had the vibrating skirt thing with my -4 and solved it by running a
strip
> of 3/4" velcro (the fuzzy stuff) around the skirt where it contacts the
> fuselage. So far, so good, after a few months. Hopefully the heat of the
sun
> will not affect the adhesive. Hope this helps.
>
> Pat Allender
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Parting concern...(rant, delete if you really don't care) |
--> RV-List message posted by: "rv6tc" <rv6tc@earthlink.net>
Maybe it's the spread of uneducated (ill-informed, flat-out stupid?) ideas
that are behind the words.
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Vanartsdalen" <svanarts@yahoo.com>
>
> Well... he's right. Not many other airlines can shot back if shot at. Why
does everyone get so worked up on these lists? They're just words on a
screen.
>
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| Subject: | Re: EIS fuel flow meter position |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
I just did this a few days ago. I made a 90 deg bracket to attach to
the firewall, and mounted the flow sensor on that, so that the wires are
pointed up. I positioned it so there is a 5 inch straight (actually
bent oh so slightly) section from the gascolator output, straight into
the sensor. per the directions you need a few inches of straight
section before the sensor. If you can wait a couple days until I get
this roll of film developed I can sent you a picture.
Jeff Point
Milwaukee WI
RV-6 FWF
Amit Dagan wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Amit Dagan" <amitdagan@hotmail.com>
>
>
>For those with a firewall mounted gascolator on a side-by-side model, who
>have the Grand Rapids EIS engine monitor system, where did you position your
>fuel flow sensor ?
>
>Thanks,
>Amit.
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: EAA Chapter 90 sponsoring Oakdale Airport Apprication Day |
--> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com
In a message dated 4/28/2003 3:10:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
svanarts@yahoo.com writes:
> For God says, "At just the right time, I heard you. On the day of salvation,
> I helped you." Indeed, God is ready to help you right now. Today is the
> day of salvation.
Scott-
As a matter of fact, he's helping me write this at the moment. Just kidding.
But seriously, maybe we could give the cute little evening bible study a
rest. If you are really into it, we can play the fun new reality game "folk
tales vs science". You could choose the juiciest parables and I could bring
up arcane historical facts and get really wound up on tedious scientific,
technological and/or archaeological rants. We could get everyone so riled up
that a jihad would have to be called at AirVenture, the grounds would get
trashed and no one would ever get their planes built. Is that what you want?
;o).
Do not archive.
-GV (RV-6A N1GV 598hrs)
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