RV-List Digest Archive

Sat 05/03/03


Total Messages Posted: 41



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 02:37 AM - GX60 & SL30 for Sale (Gary Coonan)
     2. 05:06 AM - Interesting Radio Problem ... Need Help  (James E. Clark)
     3. 05:36 AM - Re:Rebuilding engines (Larry Pardue)
     4. 05:55 AM - Re: Interesting Radio Problem ... Need Help  (James E. Clark)
     5. 06:40 AM - Re: checkerboard painting (John Huft)
     6. 08:27 AM - Re: LRI system on a RV9A (Sam Buchanan)
     7. 09:30 AM - Rich Mixture (Austin)
     8. 09:52 AM - Re: Rich Mixture (Jerry Springer)
     9. 11:33 AM - Rebuilding Engines (rpmiller)
    10. 11:33 AM - Cure time before leak test (Ken Simmons)
    11. 12:20 PM - Re: Rebuilding Engines (Jerry Springer)
    12. 12:21 PM - Re: radio tran prob (Michael McGee)
    13. 12:47 PM - Sterling Polyurethane Paint Brush application (Bob Haan)
    14. 12:56 PM - Re: Cure time before leak test (Evan and Megan Johnson)
    15. 01:14 PM - Re: Sterling Polyurethane Paint Brush application (Gil Alexander)
    16. 01:35 PM - Reason's to Keep Building! (Stein Bruch)
    17. 02:25 PM - Windows viewable sketches (was Todd's Coolant Header Tank...) (David Carter)
    18. 02:49 PM - Re: Rich Mixture (Austin)
    19. 04:20 PM - Re: Rich Mixture (Alex Peterson)
    20. 04:26 PM - Re: Rich Mixture (Gil Alexander)
    21. 05:14 PM - Re: Reason's to Keep Building! (Doug Weiler)
    22. 05:31 PM - Re: GX60 & SL30 for Sale (Jordan Grant)
    23. 05:34 PM - Re: Web Site builder documentation of RV projects - Chris Good's (Chris Good)
    24. 05:53 PM - RV8 Vans Ful pump kit (Gert)
    25. 06:01 PM - Re: GX60 & SL30 for Sale (lou rubin)
    26. 06:07 PM - Re: Rebuilding engines (Kyle Boatright)
    27. 06:25 PM - Re: Rebuilding engines (David Taylor)
    28. 06:33 PM - Re: Rebuilding engines (Glenn Brasch)
    29. 07:03 PM - Re: Rebuilding engines (Kyle Boatright)
    30. 07:19 PM - FW: Delta Hawk (Bob Hassel)
    31. 07:22 PM - More engine choices -- Delta Hawk Files (Chris W)
    32. 07:23 PM - Re: Rebuilding engines (kempthornes)
    33. 07:24 PM - Re: Rebuilding engines (kempthornes)
    34. 07:26 PM - Re: Rebuilding engines (kempthornes)
    35. 07:28 PM - Re: Rebuilding engines (kempthornes)
    36. 07:28 PM - Re: Rebuilding engines (Cy Galley)
    37. 07:53 PM - Re: Rebuilding Engines (Jaye and Scott Jackson)
    38. 07:55 PM - Twin Cities RV Forum (Alex Peterson)
    39. 08:02 PM - Re: Rebuilding engines (Robert Blum)
    40. 08:51 PM - Re: Rich Mixture (Jerry Springer)
    41. 09:42 PM - Loran-C vs SL-40 Com interference (bruno)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:37:13 AM PST US
    From: Gary Coonan <gcoonan@comcast.net>
    Subject: GX60 & SL30 for Sale
    lancair-list@matronics.com, avionics-list@matronics.com, beech-list@matronics.com --> RV-List message posted by: Gary Coonan <gcoonan@comcast.net> I had lots of inquires on the UPS SL30 & GX60 I posted for sale, but I accidentally deleted the responses when I was trying to get rid of all the nonsense threads of late. So here it is again. Brand new never mounted or powered. Purchased in Sept 02 and 26 month warranty is transferable (confirmed by UPS) My Aircraft GPS GX60 $3,550 $3,795 $ 5,195 w/GPSS - GPS steering for autopilot NAV/COM SL30 $2,850 $3,125 $ 4,155 Annunciator ACU 0 $ 625 $ 695 $6,400 $7,545 $10,045 I prefer to sell them together, so I will give priority to anyone who wants both. My primary purpose is to sell the GX60, so I will not sell the SL30 before the GX60. Gary M. Coonan . RV-7 Avionics gcoonan@comcast.net Do Not Archive


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    Time: 05:06:13 AM PST US
    From: "James E. Clark" <james@nextupventures.com>
    Subject: Interesting Radio Problem ... Need Help
    --> RV-List message posted by: "James E. Clark" <james@nextupventures.com> GlacierI was asked to go flying with a friend who is working on his CFI. He had access to a Cessna 150 with a releatively new looking (non-King, non-Cessna [ARC??]) Narco maybe radio. When you power it up, it comes up with 121.5 set so you have to change and toggle to what you want. He mentioned a radio problem so I got my handheld and we checked the radio on the ground. All seemed fine. THE PROBLEM: Since he wanted me to fly I wanted to work the radios as well and when I fired up the plane and did a "radio check", part of the first transmission made it and nothing but carrier thereafter. Several "tests" later showed that: 1. When the plane's engine was NOT running, the radio (transmit) worked 2. When the engine WAS running the radio (transmit) did NOT work 3. Bypassing the intercom and "plugging in direct" had not effect 4. Receive worked in all scenarios THE QUESTION: What could be going on here?? MY THEORIES: 1. The radio's "input" section is getting noise that is interferring with the carrier modulation (but how???) 2. The alternator is REALLY generating some noise (but I don't hear a "whine") 3. There is a really bad grounding problem somewhere (but it RECEIVES just fine) HELP: What do you think could be the culprit?? THanks, James


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    Time: 05:36:23 AM PST US
    From: "Larry Pardue" <n5lp@carlsbad.net>
    Subject: Re: Rebuilding engines
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Pardue" <n5lp@carlsbad.net> I'm not clear on why this information would even come up? I've never had an insurance company ask who overhauled an engine. If it is a certified engine, before installation, it was signed off by someone with that authority. If it is not, how would an insurance company know how to evaluate the engine builder or rebuilder? The only exception would be the very large engine companies, that insurance companies would be familiar with. If it is an Aersport Power engine, for example, the companies would know who built it. Larry Pardue Carlsbad, NM RV-6 N441LP Flying > --> RV-List message posted by: "Gordon Robertson" <res0rlvx@verizon.net> > > > It also applies to the XP360 kit engine. I am sure a lot of us would love > to save the $$ and enjoy the building if we could be sure that the insurance > companies would accept it. >


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    Time: 05:55:41 AM PST US
    From: "James E. Clark" <james@nextupventures.com>
    Subject: Interesting Radio Problem ... Need Help
    --> RV-List message posted by: "James E. Clark" <james@nextupventures.com> I meant to send this to the AeroElectric List but if you have an answer, I'd be happy to see same. James > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of James E. Clark > Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 8:05 AM > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV-List: Interesting Radio Problem ... Need Help > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "James E. Clark" <james@nextupventures.com> > > GlacierI was asked to go flying with a friend who is working on > his CFI. He > had access to a Cessna 150 with a releatively new looking (non-King, > non-Cessna [ARC??]) Narco maybe radio. > > When you power it up, it comes up with 121.5 set so you have to change and > toggle to what you want. > > He mentioned a radio problem so I got my handheld and we checked the radio > on the ground. All seemed fine. > > THE PROBLEM: > > Since he wanted me to fly I wanted to work the radios as well and when I > fired up the plane and did a "radio check", part of the first transmission > made it and nothing but carrier thereafter. > > Several "tests" later showed that: > > 1. When the plane's engine was NOT running, the radio (transmit) worked > > 2. When the engine WAS running the radio (transmit) did NOT work > > 3. Bypassing the intercom and "plugging in direct" had not effect > > 4. Receive worked in all scenarios > > THE QUESTION: > > What could be going on here?? > > MY THEORIES: > > 1. The radio's "input" section is getting noise that is interferring with > the carrier modulation (but how???) > > 2. The alternator is REALLY generating some noise (but I don't hear a > "whine") > > 3. There is a really bad grounding problem somewhere (but it RECEIVES just > fine) > > > HELP: > > What do you think could be the culprit?? > > > THanks, > > James > >


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    Time: 06:40:39 AM PST US
    From: "John Huft" <aflyer@direcway.com>
    Subject: checkerboard painting
    --> RV-List message posted by: "John Huft" <aflyer@direcway.com> Well, I was thinking it would be nice if the paint was the same thickness in both colors of the checkerboard, so that after the clear coat, there would not be ridges where the colors change...I know, anal, anal. John -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Frazier, Vincent A Subject: RV-List: checkerboard painting --> RV-List message posted by: "Frazier, Vincent A" <VFrazier@usi.edu> SNIP How about going to the sign shop, and getting a checkerboard paint mask. They have a cutter than works like a pen plotter, and should be able to cut out a very accurate checkerboard. Buy two of them, apply one and paint one color, then offset the other mask and paint the other color. SNIP You don't need 2 masks unless your are a masochist to save 0.1oz of paint weight. Just paint the base color over the entire area, your rudder for example, and then apply the checkeboard mask, scuff the area to be painted carefully with scotchbrite, and apply the contrasting color. Peel the mask off when dry, crack open a beer and marvel at how awesome it will look at 200mph. Vince


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    Time: 08:27:47 AM PST US
    From: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
    Subject: Re: LRI system on a RV9A
    --> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net> Williams Hildred wrote: > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Williams Hildred" <WilliamsJrHildred@JohnDeere.com> > > I am helping a friend install the LRI on a RV9A. > > When the probe is inserted into the angle and plate supplied with the kit, > there is an 'open area' in front of the probe. > > This 'open area' will also be cut into the center wing inspection cover, if > the LRI template is used to cut the center wing inspection cover. > > Should the 'cut out' slot ONLY allow the probe to be inserted thru the probe > plate and the inspection cover. > > OR > > Should the 'cutout' in the inspection cover be cut the same size as the > cutout in the probe plate?? > > Should the extra 'cutout' hole be filled or closed after the correct angle > is determined?? > > Will the 'open area' create a problem in the flying or flight characteristic > of the wing?? > > Thank you in advance for your help. > > Hildred Williams > WilliamsJrHildred@JohnDeere.com Hildred, I had to go back and look at the photos of the LRI installation in my RV-6 in order to determine whether or not my installation included the "open area". It seems it does: http://home.hiwaay.net/~sbuc/journal/liftreserve.htm Matter of fact, it appears the surface area of the open area is similar to that of the opening left when the tie-down rings are removed. I don't recall any questions arising concerning flight issues in regards to the ring holes. I have not noticed anything in flight that could be attributed to the clearance around the probe. I suppose you could cut the slot a bit tighter if you wanted to clean up the installation. You will enjoy flying with the LRI! :-) Sam Buchanan ====================


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    Time: 09:30:42 AM PST US
    From: "Austin" <6430@axion.net>
    Subject: Rich Mixture
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Austin" <6430@axion.net> Hi Listers, I was having a nice lie down on the carpet underneath the RV, wiping off mud streaks, just enjoying the sun lighting up the belly, when I noticed that the exhaust pipes had black sooty residue coating the inside. This was easily wiped off with a finger..( not totally removed however). Made me think I am running too rich, especially when I look at the belly of the 6 and I can detect a very thin blackness which becomes more evident if you wipe a rag over it and then see how white the belly really is Nobody has ever mentioned to me that they see black smoke from the pipes... Is this residue unburned fuel ?...Any good engine gurus want to chime in ? As for mixture, if I remember right, I screwed the mixture nut all the way in and then backed it out 1.5 turns.. I did try to adjust the nut with a screw driver to detect a change..with engine running...but sense and fear overcame valor and I quit that. Between the spinning prop and getting burned on the pipes, my patience ran out...and starting and stopping each time soon lost its novelty also...... Any input ??? Many thanks, Austin.


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    Time: 09:52:44 AM PST US
    From: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Rich Mixture
    --> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net> Hi Austin, Couple of things, how aggressively do you lean in flight? And how far do you taxi after landing with the mixture rich? If the mixture is rich on the ground while taxiing it does not take long to get the black sooty exhaust pipes. Jerry ---------------------- Austin wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Austin" <6430@axion.net> > > Hi Listers, > I was having a nice lie down on the carpet underneath > the RV, wiping off mud streaks, just enjoying the sun lighting up the belly, > when I noticed that the exhaust pipes had black sooty residue coating the > inside. > This was easily wiped off with a finger..( not totally removed however). > Made me think I am running too rich, especially when I look at the belly of > the 6 and I can detect a very thin blackness which becomes more evident if > you wipe a rag over it and then see how white the belly really is > Nobody has ever mentioned to me that they see black smoke from the pipes... > Is this residue unburned fuel ?...Any good engine gurus want to chime in ? > As for mixture, if I remember right, I screwed the mixture nut all the way > in and then backed it out 1.5 turns.. > I did try to adjust the nut with a screw driver to detect a change..with > engine running...but sense and fear overcame valor and I quit that. > Between the spinning prop and getting burned on the pipes, my patience ran > out...and starting and stopping each time soon lost its novelty also...... > Any input ??? > Many thanks, > Austin. > > > > > > >


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    Time: 11:33:13 AM PST US
    From: "rpmiller" <rpmiller@1usa.net>
    Subject: Rebuilding Engines
    --> RV-List message posted by: "rpmiller" <rpmiller@1usa.net> previous message starts here A few days ago, a thread appeared on rebuilding a 320 engine. I asked whether that impacted the insurability of the aircraft, but nobody had any answer. John Helms, are you still here? Has anybody who built up his own engine had any problems with insuring it (assuming they told the insurance company, of course)? It also applies to the XP360 kit engine. I am sure a lot of us would love to save the $$ and enjoy the building if we could be sure that the insurance companies would accept it. Gordon Robertson RV-8 ends here Why don't you ask an insurance agent and then tell us?


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    Time: 11:33:36 AM PST US
    From: "Ken Simmons" <ken@truckstop.com>
    Subject: Cure time before leak test
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Ken Simmons" <ken@truckstop.com> I finished my first fuel tank and want to leak test it before I seal the baffle in the other to make sure my technique is OK. The technique for testing I understand from information in the archives. The question is how long should you wait for the Proseal to cure before testing or does it matter? Thanks Ken


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    Time: 12:20:25 PM PST US
    From: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Rebuilding Engines
    --> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net> It was just a few weeks ago that this was discussed very thoroughly here on the list. Remember when JT Helms was taking such a beating. It was finally determined that insurance companies would insure the XP360 and some of the auto engines. Probably most of the insurance topic never made it to the archives because of the DNA. Jerry rpmiller wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "rpmiller" <rpmiller@1usa.net> > > previous message starts here > > A few days ago, a thread appeared on rebuilding a 320 engine. I asked > whether that impacted the insurability of the aircraft, but nobody had any > answer. John Helms, are you still here? Has anybody who built up his own > engine had any problems with insuring it (assuming they told the insurance > company, of course)? > > It also applies to the XP360 kit engine. I am sure a lot of us would love > to save the $$ and enjoy the building if we could be sure that the insurance > companies would accept it. > > Gordon Robertson > RV-8 > > ends here > > Why don't you ask an insurance agent and then tell us? > > > > > > >


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    Time: 12:21:01 PM PST US
    From: Michael McGee <jmpcrftr@teleport.com>
    Subject: Re: radio tran prob
    --> RV-List message posted by: Michael McGee <jmpcrftr@teleport.com> At 22:15 2003-05-02 -0400, you wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: WPAerial@aol.com > >My I com 200 checks out okay. Worked on the way to sun n fun but on way home >it would receive okay but push the ppt and the amp meter pegs all the way >over negative. both ppt do this. any ideas where to start trouble shooting? > >Jerry Wilken >Albany Oregon >N699WP Verify that your coax is in good shape all the way to the antennae and the end connections are well made. Mike McGee, RV-4 N996RV, O320-E2G, Hillsboro, OR 13B in gestation mode


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    Time: 12:47:34 PM PST US
    From: Bob Haan <bhaan@easystreet.com>
    Subject: Sterling Polyurethane Paint Brush application
    --> RV-List message posted by: Bob Haan <bhaan@easystreet.com> I am in the process of painting my RV6A with Sterling crosslink Polyurethane Paint (Detco) using the brushing application method. The process we are using is: 1. Alumiprep (Acid wash) . 2. Alodine. 3. Coat of green chromate primer. 4. Sand out bush or roller marks . 5. One Coat of 94U 1000P white Primer/ Filler. 6. Sand out bush or roller marks . 7. Repeat Steps 5 and 6if needed.. 8. Two coats of the Gloss Top Coat Color We have not been able to get the brush marks to flow out for the gloss top coats. We are rolling on the paint and tip brushing it to remove the bubbles left by the roller. We are using abut 15%. thinner.. If you were successful, please.let us know about your process, etc. Thanks, Bob RV6A almost


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    Time: 12:56:32 PM PST US
    From: "Evan and Megan Johnson" <evmeg@snowcrest.net>
    Subject: Re: Cure time before leak test
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Evan and Megan Johnson" <evmeg@snowcrest.net> Depends on how you mixed the proseal and the temp in your shop. A good rule is the fingernail test. You should be able to press your nail into the mixture and have it bounce back so that it does not leave a deep mark. Really you are shooting for a soft rubber feel....like dried silicone. In warm temps...80 or so up, my proseal sets in 1 or two days. During the winter when the shop is in the 50's it can take as many as 4 or 5. Just remember what you are trying to do...pressurize the tank enough to leak test them without blowing holes in your sealant. I have never had to wait more than a week....so provided you mixed properly, that should be a failsafe waiting period. I have done somewhere around 150 sets by now and this has always worked for me. If you have questions or run into any problems feel free to call or email me. (530)247-0375 P.S.......use two baloons..one inside the other when pressurizing. I find that one is just not enough to create the proper pressure in the tanks. The baloons also act as a safety valve if you over pressurize. One of our local builders just told me how he accidentally pressurized to the capacity of the air compressor. He didnt blow up his tank but that would have been about 10 times the pressure needed! (It must have looked like an overstuffed pillow) Cheers....Evan Johnson (just got proseal on the keyboard :) www.evansaviationproducts.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Simmons" <ken@truckstop.com> Subject: RV-List: Cure time before leak test > --> RV-List message posted by: "Ken Simmons" <ken@truckstop.com> > > I finished my first fuel tank and want to leak test it before I seal the > baffle in the other to make sure my technique is OK. The technique for > testing I understand from information in the archives. The question is how > long should you wait for the Proseal to cure before testing or does it > matter? > > Thanks > > Ken > >


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    Time: 01:14:06 PM PST US
    From: Gil Alexander <gilalex@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Sterling Polyurethane Paint Brush application
    --> RV-List message posted by: Gil Alexander <gilalex@earthlink.net> Bob ... Detco seems to suggest 25% thinner when brushing.... From http://www.detcomarine.com/sltopcoat.htm#BRUSH%20GLOSS%20APPLICATION "Mix components thoroughly in a clean, non-waxed bucket and allow the mixture to pre-react thereafter for approximately 45-60 minutes. This is important to induce the chemical crosslinking process before the material is spread into a thin film and a much better finish and cure will occur. Do not add thinner when the components are initially mixed. Just before application, thin to proper brushing consistency with U-2965 Brushing Thinner at the rate of about 25% on the average. More or less reducer may be indicated depending upon the color used and prevailing weather conditions. " Gil in Tucson - who sprayed a neighbor's dinghy with Sterling paint as RV practice...: ) It's really tough stuff when cured. At 12:47 PM 5/3/2003 -0700, you wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: Bob Haan <bhaan@easystreet.com> > > >I am in the process of painting my RV6A with Sterling crosslink >Polyurethane Paint (Detco) using the brushing application method. > >The process we are using is: >1. Alumiprep (Acid wash) . >2. Alodine. >3. Coat of green chromate primer. >4. Sand out bush or roller marks . >5. One Coat of 94U 1000P white Primer/ Filler. >6. Sand out bush or roller marks . >7. Repeat Steps 5 and 6if needed.. >8. Two coats of the Gloss Top Coat Color > >We have not been able to get the brush marks to flow out for the gloss top >coats. We are rolling on the paint and tip brushing it to remove the >bubbles left by the roller. We are using abut 15%. thinner.. > >If you were successful, please.let us know about your process, etc. > >Thanks, > >Bob > >RV6A almost > >


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    Time: 01:35:07 PM PST US
    From: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com>
    Subject: Reason's to Keep Building!
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com> Hi All, Just a short motivational note for those of you still building. Today, like many Saturdays some of the "local" RVer's (Minnesota/Wisconsin Wingers) headed out for breakfast. I haven't made it to many of them because of my job, but this is the second time I went, it was GREAT! Being kind of a "spontaneous/weather permitting" affair, you never know who's going to show up. The agreed point today was Redwing, MN to a short trip into town and breakfast at one of the historic hotels. When arriving at Redwing, there was a LOT of RV's arriving at the same "agreed upon" time, and someone even commented that it sounded like Oshkosh. After 10 minutes and when everyone arrived, there was 14 - yep, FOURTEEN RV's in attendance that I counted. Nearly every color of the rainbow, type, engine, etc.. were represented. It took the hotel shuttle two trips to haul all of us in, but we had a great time lying about flying, and stuffing our gullets with good pecan & almond pancakes! So, the moral of the story is, keep building and you too can travel on weekends with a really good group of people. Actually a great way to learn a lot, play around, and spend some dough! Keep pouding those rivets, Stein Bruch RV6, Minneapolis.


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    Time: 02:25:34 PM PST US
    From: "David Carter" <dcarter@datarecall.net>
    Subject: Windows viewable sketches (was Todd's Coolant Header Tank...)
    --> RV-List message posted by: "David Carter" <dcarter@datarecall.net> Todd ( and/or others on all 3 lists who know how to create "Windows viewable sketches", This is a "builder documentation" and "builder put out sketches for peer review" question/issue. Todd, I looked at your pictures and the color sketch of your coolant system, a .jpg file. Did you do the sketch free hand and scan it? Or, did you use some software product to draw/sketch it? With your .jpg file sketch opened and viewed by my Kodak "Imaging for Windows", I studied the Help document and tried some things, to try to learn how to "draw" - no luck. The drawing toolbar at bottom is greyed out. - I notice at the very top of screen, it says, after the icon for the Imaging viewer software: "Coolant flow system.jpg - Imaging [Read Only]" - Why would it be "Read Only"? Is there a feature like in spreadsheets which can be "locked" to prevent changing critical cells? - Is my "bundled" software one of those damnable "lite" (less features) versions of "real" software? I have Intellicad, an Autocad clone, to create drawings with, but drawings created that way require anyone wanting to view it to have a similar software package, which many do not. - So, I'm looking for a drawing tool other than Intellicad/Autocad that can be viewed by anyone with Windows (and the typical viewers bundled with it). David Carter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Haywire" <haywire@telus.net> Subject: [FlyRotary] Coolant header tank & Coolant filler neck thingy??? > Hi Guys; > I've been away at tech school for a few months and am just beginning to get > back to work on my engine. I did fly home every weekend, but just worked on > painting the plane so this is the first I've worked on the engine since > doing coolant flow tests back in December. > In an effort to design the most efficient coolant system possible, I've > built my own header tank. I've drawn a diagram of the system similar to the > diagram provided by Lyn. To finish this tank I need to put a cap on it. I > searched the internet for aluminum filler necks and found some in England, > but while looking through my repair manual I found a pic of a bolt-on > plastic flange mount filler neck. This is shown in the pic "rad cap filler > neck". Can somebody out there tell me if this is just a mount for a filler > cap or if it is for a pressure cap? Can I also get the dimensions of it with > & without the cap. > The "coolantheadertank" pics show how it will be mounted & the "coolant > recovery bottle" pic is an old snowmobile coolant tank modified. Side port > on this tank has been plugged and bottom port has been modified to accept a > 3/8 hose. > Comments, criticism are welcome, but I'd really like the info on the filler > neck thingy, so I can order one tomorrow if it is appropriate. > Thanks > > S. Todd Bartrim > Turbo 13B rotary powered > RV-9endurance (FWF) > C-FSTB > http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm > > "Imagination is more important than Knowledge" > -Albert Einstein > > > --- > Version: 6.0.459 / Virus Database: 258 - Release Date: 25/02/03 > ---- > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >


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    Time: 02:49:13 PM PST US
    From: "Austin" <6430@axion.net>
    Subject: Re: Rich Mixture
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Austin" <6430@axion.net> Jerry wrote.............. > Couple of things, how aggressively do you lean in flight? Actually, not at all below 3,000 ft., also I have never been sure how much to lean is appropriate...I keep thinking of detonation, fried valves etc., so I always fly " conservative rich ".....I would like to know more about this. And how far do you taxi after landing with the mixture rich? Not real far, but was never aware that it was a good idea to lean coming back to the barn. Good idea though... If the mixture is rich on > the ground while taxiing it does not take long to get the black sooty > exhaust pipes. Thanks a lot Jerry, yours was the only reply I got. Austin


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    Time: 04:20:08 PM PST US
    From: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@usjet.net>
    Subject: Rich Mixture
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@usjet.net> Austin, go to: http://www.avweb.com/ and search for Deakin. There are many, many articles written by him on running engines. They are good reading, beware many of his works have caveats, such as "for fuel injected engines only", but good stuff. There is a four part series that is relatively new, but many other good articles also. > Actually, not at all below 3,000 ft., also I have never been > sure how much to lean is appropriate...I keep thinking of > detonation, fried valves etc., so I always fly " conservative > rich ".....I would like to know more about this. > > And how far do you taxi after landing with the mixture rich? > Not real far, but was never aware that it was a good idea to > lean coming back to the barn. Good idea though... Lean during taxi until it starts to croak, then add just enough to keep it running. Always lean aggressively on the ground, so that you would immediately find out if you attempt to take-off without going to full rich (it won't accelerate if it is aggressively leaned). Alex Peterson Maple Grove, MN RV6-A N66AP 296 hours www.rvforum.org MAY 31ST! www.usfamily.net/web/alexpeterson


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    Time: 04:26:53 PM PST US
    From: Gil Alexander <gilalex@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Rich Mixture
    --> RV-List message posted by: Gil Alexander <gilalex@earthlink.net> Austin .... these links might help. I always lean on the ground to peak rpm. If you do this, you can't take off with the same mixture setting by mistake ... the engine will just stutter on application of full throttle. And lean for max rpm on the ground if above 5000 ft Density Alt. gil in Tucson - flying a Grumman Tiger with an O-360 and Fixed pitch prop at a DA of >5000 when it's over 81 deg. F (83 deg. F on the porch now...: ) http://www.lycoming.textron.com/main.jsp?bodyPage=support/publications/keyReprints/operation/leaningEngines.html http://www.lycoming.textron.com/main.jsp?bodyPage=support/publications/keyReprints/operation/sparkPlugFouling.html http://www.planeandpilotmag.com/content/pastissues/2002/feb/avgas101.html At 02:21 PM 5/3/2003 -0700, you wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Austin" <6430@axion.net> > >Jerry wrote.............. > > > Couple of things, how aggressively do you lean in flight? > >Actually, not at all below 3,000 ft., also I have never been sure how much >to lean is appropriate...I keep thinking of detonation, fried valves etc., >so I always fly " conservative rich ".....I would like to know more about >this. > >And how far do you taxi after landing with the mixture rich? >Not real far, but was never aware that it was a good idea to lean coming >back to the barn. >Good idea though... > >If the mixture is rich on > > the ground while taxiing it does not take long to get the black sooty > > exhaust pipes. >Thanks a lot Jerry, yours was the only reply I got. >Austin > >


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    Time: 05:14:12 PM PST US
    From: "Doug Weiler" <dougweil@pressenter.com>
    Subject: Re: Reason's to Keep Building!
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Weiler" <dougweil@pressenter.com> Do Not Archive > --> RV-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com> > > Hi All, > > Just a short motivational note for those of you still building. Today, like > many Saturdays some of the "local" RVer's (Minnesota/Wisconsin Wingers) > headed out for breakfast. I haven't made it to many of them because of my > job, but this is the second time I went, it was GREAT! > > Being kind of a "spontaneous/weather permitting" affair, you never know > who's going to show up. The agreed point today was Redwing, MN to a short > trip into town and breakfast at one of the historic hotels. When arriving > at Redwing, there was a LOT of RV's arriving at the same "agreed upon" time, > and someone even commented that it sounded like Oshkosh. > > After 10 minutes and when everyone arrived, there was 14 - yep, FOURTEEN > RV's in attendance that I counted. Nearly every color of the rainbow, type, > engine, etc.. were represented. > > It took the hotel shuttle two trips to haul all of us in, but we had a great > time lying about flying, and stuffing our gullets with good pecan & almond > pancakes! > > So, the moral of the story is, keep building and you too can travel on > weekends with a really good group of people. Actually a great way to learn > a lot, play around, and spend some dough! > > Keep pouding those rivets, > > Stein Bruch > RV6, Minneapolis. I have to second Stein's comments since I was also at our usual Sat AM pancake extravaganza. This is becoming a ritual each Sat around here. The only down side to this is that I am beginning to realize that I own the only $60,000 pancake procurement device in the neighborhood. Doug Weiler MN Wing


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    Time: 05:31:01 PM PST US
    From: "Jordan Grant" <jgrant@sw.rr.com>
    Subject: GX60 & SL30 for Sale
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Jordan Grant" <jgrant@sw.rr.com> Gary, I'm interested in the GX60. Unfortunately, I do not want to buy the SL30. Please let me know if you do not find someone that wants to buy both units. Thanks, Jordan Grant -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Coonan rv8-list@matronics.com; lancair-list@matronics.com; avionics-list@matronics.com; beech-list@matronics.com Subject: RV-List: GX60 & SL30 for Sale --> RV-List message posted by: Gary Coonan <gcoonan@comcast.net> I had lots of inquires on the UPS SL30 & GX60 I posted for sale, but I accidentally deleted the responses when I was trying to get rid of all the nonsense threads of late. So here it is again. Brand new never mounted or powered. Purchased in Sept 02 and 26 month warranty is transferable (confirmed by UPS) My Aircraft GPS GX60 $3,550 $3,795 $ 5,195 w/GPSS - GPS steering for autopilot NAV/COM SL30 $2,850 $3,125 $ 4,155 Annunciator ACU 0 $ 625 $ 695 $6,400 $7,545 $10,045 I prefer to sell them together, so I will give priority to anyone who wants both. My primary purpose is to sell the GX60, so I will not sell the SL30 before the GX60. Gary M. Coonan . RV-7 Avionics gcoonan@comcast.net Do Not Archive direct advertising on the Matronics Forums.


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    Time: 05:34:55 PM PST US
    From: "Chris Good" <chrisjgood@lycos.com>
    Subject: Re: Web Site builder documentation of RV projects - Chris Good's
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Chris Good" <chrisjgood@lycos.com> David, Thanks for the kind words about my web site. I hope you continue to find it useful. Having initially figured out how to do a few simple things, I just edit the raw html files with additions to the site. The tables are typically MS Excel spreadsheets - Excel has an "export to html" function. The systems section, that includes wiring diagrams, was created as an MS Powerpoint presentation set of slides. Powerpoint has an "export to html" function that creates the pages on the web site. I've used the web site as my main method of documenting my work on the 6A, & I continue to refer to it frequently. Regards, Chris Good West Bend, WI RV-6A N86CG, 530 hrs flying http://rv.supermatrix.com -- On Fri, 2 May 2003 15:41:43 David Carter wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "David Carter" <dcarter@datarecall.net> > >Chris Good, > >Thanks for calling attention to your excellent website. I've looked at >others (not all, by any means) and have seen others who have posted "some" >info on their RV - but your site is absolutely fabulous! Total >documentation of anything I could think of to look up. > - I highly recommend this web site to anyone building an RV!! > >Just yesterday I got my courage up again and did the first update/practice >on my own primitive website since Nov 2000. I've changed computers since >then and had to find and learn how to use a different FTP uploader pgm, and >made a new checklist on how to add "daily" (periodic) update pages to the >site. > >Now the wife & I need to learn how to download pictures from our digital >camera we bought last Fall and have never downloaded. > >I am at the stage of creating schematics and wiring diagrams for my RV-6 >electrical system, and plan to use IntelliCAD (open architecture clone of, >and compatible with, Autocad ), starting off with, and modifying, Bob >Nuckoll's drawings and symbols. I noticed your nice wiring info - color, >etc. What program did you use to create such elegantly simple and clear >graphic info? > >About your website, did you copy source code from someone else - like I do - >and modify it? Or, did you have a professional web site person design it >for you? I have the 27 page "NCSA - A Beginner's Guide to HTML" document >that I printed off the internet - I use it for my main reference for HTML >stuff . I create & edit web documents with Notepad, the simplest text >editor. Any tips for us new guys to "web site documentation of our >projects"? > >David Carter > http://www.datarecall.net/~dcarter Get advanced SPAM filtering on Webmail or POP Mail ... Get Lycos Mail!


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    Time: 05:53:27 PM PST US
    From: Gert <gert@execpc.com>
    rv-list <rv-list@matronics.com>
    Subject: RV8 Vans Ful pump kit
    --> RV-List message posted by: Gert <gert@execpc.com> Hi Folks I am about to embarj\k on installing the fuel line related items in my RV8. I was looking at the "Installation Kit for RV-8/8A including Pump and Filter" Van's sells for 550 dollars. Anybody have experience with this kit, good, bad, or indifferent. Anybody knows where to get the items cheaper separate ?? I have a IO360-A1B to feed......... Thanks gert -- is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500


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    Time: 06:01:26 PM PST US
    From: "lou rubin" <lourubin@hotmail.com>
    Subject: GX60 & SL30 for Sale
    --> RV-List message posted by: "lou rubin" <lourubin@hotmail.com> >From: "Jordan Grant" <jgrant@sw.rr.com> >Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com >To: <rv-list@matronics.com> >Subject: RE: RV-List: GX60 & SL30 for Sale >Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 19:31:05 -0500 > >--> RV-List message posted by: "Jordan Grant" <jgrant@sw.rr.com> > >Gary, > I'm interested in the GX60. Unfortunately, I do not want to buy >the SL30. Please let me know if you do not find someone that wants to >buy both units. > >Thanks, > Jordan Grant >on the Matronics Hi Jordon& Gary Im interested in buying the SL 30 from Gary. Since he wants to sell them both together, it would be advantagous if we bought them together please email Gary & advise Thanks Lou 864 377 0828 cell ForumsJordaon====================================================================== > >


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    Time: 06:07:00 PM PST US
    From: "Kyle Boatright" <kyle.boatright@adelphia.net>
    Subject: Re: Rebuilding engines
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright" <kyle.boatright@adelphia.net> Look at it this way: Unless you have an IA or A/P maintain your engine, it will be "uncertified" after the first time you do any maintenance on it... KB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Robertson" <res0rlvx@verizon.net> Subject: RV-List: Rebuilding engines > --> RV-List message posted by: "Gordon Robertson" <res0rlvx@verizon.net> > > It is great to get some real RV information coming in again. Thanks guys! > > A few days ago, a thread appeared on rebuilding a 320 engine. I asked > whether that impacted the insurability of the aircraft, but nobody had any > answer. John Helms, are you still here? Has anybody who built up his own > engine had any problems with insuring it (assuming they told the insurance > company, of course)? > > It also applies to the XP360 kit engine. I am sure a lot of us would love > to save the $$ and enjoy the building if we could be sure that the insurance > companies would accept it. > > Gordon Robertson > RV-8 > >


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    Time: 06:25:17 PM PST US
    From: "David Taylor" <rv7@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Rebuilding engines
    --> RV-List message posted by: "David Taylor" <rv7@cox.net> I've heard that it is uncertified once you put it on an experimental and must be certified again to be put on a certified aircraft. Does anyone know exactly how the reg reads or is this one of those gray areas? -David Taylor (N207DT reserved) Empenage ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kyle Boatright" <kyle.boatright@adelphia.net> Subject: Re: RV-List: Rebuilding engines > --> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright" <kyle.boatright@adelphia.net> > > Look at it this way: > > Unless you have an IA or A/P maintain your engine, it will be "uncertified" > after the first time you do any maintenance on it... > > KB > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gordon Robertson" <res0rlvx@verizon.net> > To: <rv-list@matronics.com> > Subject: RV-List: Rebuilding engines > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Gordon Robertson" <res0rlvx@verizon.net> > > > > It is great to get some real RV information coming in again. Thanks > guys! > > > > A few days ago, a thread appeared on rebuilding a 320 engine. I asked > > whether that impacted the insurability of the aircraft, but nobody had any > > answer. John Helms, are you still here? Has anybody who built up his > own > > engine had any problems with insuring it (assuming they told the insurance > > company, of course)? > > > > It also applies to the XP360 kit engine. I am sure a lot of us would > love > > to save the $$ and enjoy the building if we could be sure that the > insurance > > companies would accept it. > > > > Gordon Robertson > > RV-8 > > > > > >


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    Time: 06:33:50 PM PST US
    From: "Glenn Brasch" <gbrasch@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Rebuilding engines
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Glenn Brasch" <gbrasch@earthlink.net> I was told that once the engine gets bolted on to an experimental, the engine is then experimental for it's life and cannot be used on normal category aircraft. Am I wrong? Glenn in Arizona -9A ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Taylor" <rv7@cox.net> Subject: Re: RV-List: Rebuilding engines > --> RV-List message posted by: "David Taylor" <rv7@cox.net> > > I've heard that it is uncertified once you put it on an experimental and > must be certified again to be put on a certified aircraft. Does anyone know > exactly how the reg reads or is this one of those gray areas? > > > -David Taylor (N207DT reserved) > Empenage > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kyle Boatright" <kyle.boatright@adelphia.net> > To: <rv-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: RV-List: Rebuilding engines > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright" > <kyle.boatright@adelphia.net> > > > > Look at it this way: > > > > Unless you have an IA or A/P maintain your engine, it will be > "uncertified" > > after the first time you do any maintenance on it... > > > > KB > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Gordon Robertson" <res0rlvx@verizon.net> > > To: <rv-list@matronics.com> > > Subject: RV-List: Rebuilding engines > > > > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Gordon Robertson" <res0rlvx@verizon.net> > > > > > > It is great to get some real RV information coming in again. Thanks > > guys! > > > > > > A few days ago, a thread appeared on rebuilding a 320 engine. I asked > > > whether that impacted the insurability of the aircraft, but nobody had > any > > > answer. John Helms, are you still here? Has anybody who built up his > > own > > > engine had any problems with insuring it (assuming they told the > insurance > > > company, of course)? > > > > > > It also applies to the XP360 kit engine. I am sure a lot of us would > > love > > > to save the $$ and enjoy the building if we could be sure that the > > insurance > > > companies would accept it. > > > > > > Gordon Robertson > > > RV-8 > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 07:03:10 PM PST US
    From: "Kyle Boatright" <kyle.boatright@adelphia.net>
    Subject: Re: Rebuilding engines
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright" <kyle.boatright@adelphia.net> The regs are that IF you buy and install a certified engine, it can remain a certified engine IF the maintenance performed on that engine is done to the same standards as required on a certified engine. In other words, certified parts, certified (i.e. licensed) mechanics, etc.. The bottom line is that a certified mechanic must fill out a piece of paper which indicates that the engine still conforms to certified standards. Do all of that, and you could uninstall the engine from your RV and bolt it onto a Cessna or Piper. KB ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Taylor" <rv7@cox.net> Subject: Re: RV-List: Rebuilding engines > --> RV-List message posted by: "David Taylor" <rv7@cox.net> > > I've heard that it is uncertified once you put it on an experimental and > must be certified again to be put on a certified aircraft. Does anyone know > exactly how the reg reads or is this one of those gray areas? > > > -David Taylor (N207DT reserved) > Empenage > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kyle Boatright" <kyle.boatright@adelphia.net> > To: <rv-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: RV-List: Rebuilding engines > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright" > <kyle.boatright@adelphia.net> > > > > Look at it this way: > > > > Unless you have an IA or A/P maintain your engine, it will be > "uncertified" > > after the first time you do any maintenance on it... > > > > KB > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Gordon Robertson" <res0rlvx@verizon.net> > > To: <rv-list@matronics.com> > > Subject: RV-List: Rebuilding engines > > > > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Gordon Robertson" <res0rlvx@verizon.net> > > > > > > It is great to get some real RV information coming in again. Thanks > > guys! > > > > > > A few days ago, a thread appeared on rebuilding a 320 engine. I asked > > > whether that impacted the insurability of the aircraft, but nobody had > any > > > answer. John Helms, are you still here? Has anybody who built up his > > own > > > engine had any problems with insuring it (assuming they told the > insurance > > > company, of course)? > > > > > > It also applies to the XP360 kit engine. I am sure a lot of us would > > love > > > to save the $$ and enjoy the building if we could be sure that the > > insurance > > > companies would accept it. > > > > > > Gordon Robertson > > > RV-8 > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 07:19:45 PM PST US
    From: "Bob Hassel" <bob@hassel-usa.com>
    Subject: FW: Delta Hawk
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Hassel" <bob@hassel-usa.com> From another list I monitor: Bob Hassel Do Not Archive ==================== Forwarded from RAH To all, No more "next year", no more "soon", and certainly no flying down the runway at 8 inches and calling it a day. The DeltaHawk engine has finally flown. Here is the official blurb. DeltaHawk, Inc. announces the long-awaited first flight of its DH160V4 Turbodiesel aircraft engine. A Velocity RG powered by the 160 horsepower upright V-4 engine, weighing just over 300 pounds and burning jet fuel, took off from John H. Batten Airport in Racine, Wisconsin at 12:01 PM on May 3, 2003. In a flight lasting 38 minutes, test pilot and DeltaHawk Chief Engineer, Doug Doers reached an altitude of 5500 feet MSL and achieved a maximum airspeed of 140 knots before returning for an uneventful landing. Doug reported the flight and engine performance were nearly perfect. Following almost 7 years of development, the flight is a milestone in DeltaHawks history. The company will begin delivering engines to its loyal and patient customers in the first quarter of 2004. Those holding DeltaHawk Delivery Position Agreements (DPA) may contact DeltaHawk at sales@deltahawkengines.com to confirm their intentions. New customers wishing to establish a Delivery Position can download the DPA form from the DeltaHawk website, which contains up to date information and new, high-resolution first flight photos, at: www.deltahawkengines.com Exciting news as this is, the proverbial "rest of the story" is what will really turn your cranks. Stay tuned and come see us at Oshkosh...... Dave Driscoll Defiant N3XK "what could be better than one DeltaHawk?" To change your email address, visit http://www.tvbf.org/mailman/listinfo/reflector Visit the gallery! tvbf:jamaicangoose


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    Time: 07:22:06 PM PST US
    From: Chris W <chrisw3@cox.net>
    Subject: More engine choices -- Delta Hawk Files
    --> RV-List message posted by: Chris W <chrisw3@cox.net> The Delta Hawk diesel, burning jet fuel, flew for the first time today. Looks like we have one more choice in the engine department now. do not archive -- Chris Woodhouse 3147 SW 127th St. Oklahoma City, OK 73170 405-691-5206 chrisw@programmer.net N35 20.492' W97 34.342' "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Historical Review of Pennsylvania


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    Time: 07:23:57 PM PST US
    From: kempthornes <kempthornes@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Rebuilding engines
    --> RV-List message posted by: kempthornes <kempthornes@earthlink.net> At 09:06 PM 5/3/2003 -0400, you wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright" <kyle.boatright@adelphia.net> > >Look at it this way: > >Unless you have an IA or A/P maintain your engine, it will be "uncertified" >after the first time you do any maintenance on it... I always get into trouble on this one but many rv builders are more skilled, intelligent and more dedicated than very many professional mechanics. My experience with A&P's is limited. Some are impressive, many are boneheads. K. H. (Hal) Kempthorne RV6-a N7HK flying! PRB (El Paso de Robles, CA)


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    Time: 07:24:36 PM PST US
    From: kempthornes <kempthornes@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Rebuilding engines
    --> RV-List message posted by: kempthornes <kempthornes@earthlink.net> At 06:34 PM 5/3/2003 -0700, you wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Glenn Brasch" <gbrasch@earthlink.net> > >I was told that once the engine gets bolted on to an experimental, the >engine is then experimental for it's life and cannot be used on normal >category aircraft. Am I wrong? Glenn in Arizona -9A Yes. K. H. (Hal) Kempthorne RV6-a N7HK flying! PRB (El Paso de Robles, CA)


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    Time: 07:26:00 PM PST US
    From: kempthornes <kempthornes@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Rebuilding engines
    --> RV-List message posted by: kempthornes <kempthornes@earthlink.net> At 10:00 PM 5/3/2003 -0400, you wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright" <kyle.boatright@adelphia.net> > >The regs are that IF you buy and install a certified engine, it can remain a >certified engine IF the maintenance performed on that engine is done to the >same standards as required on a certified engine. In other words, certified >parts, certified (i.e. licensed) mechanics, etc.. The bottom line is that a >certified mechanic must fill out a piece of paper which indicates that the >engine still conforms to certified standards. > >Do all of that, and you could uninstall the engine from your RV and bolt it >onto a Cessna or Piper. Don't do all that and you will have to sell it to the many RV builders for big money. K. H. (Hal) Kempthorne RV6-a N7HK flying! PRB (El Paso de Robles, CA)


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    Time: 07:28:00 PM PST US
    From: kempthornes <kempthornes@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Rebuilding engines
    --> RV-List message posted by: kempthornes <kempthornes@earthlink.net> At 09:22 PM 5/3/2003 -0700, you wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "David Taylor" <rv7@cox.net> > > I've heard that it is uncertified once you put it on an experimental and >must be certified again to be put on a certified aircraft. Does anyone know >exactly how the reg reads or is this one of those gray areas? Why would you want to put it on a standard certified aircraft? By the way, our RV's are certified aircraft. K. H. (Hal) Kempthorne RV6-a N7HK flying! PRB (El Paso de Robles, CA)


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    Time: 07:28:25 PM PST US
    From: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
    Subject: Re: Rebuilding engines
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org> The engine can be re-certified by an A&P. He might want to disassemble to check that everything is proper, but there is NO reg that states your engine can be never certified again. Cy Galley Editor, EAA Safety Programs cgalley@qcbc.org or experimenter@eaa.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Brasch" <gbrasch@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: RV-List: Rebuilding engines > --> RV-List message posted by: "Glenn Brasch" <gbrasch@earthlink.net> > > I was told that once the engine gets bolted on to an experimental, the > engine is then experimental for it's life and cannot be used on normal > category aircraft. Am I wrong? Glenn in Arizona -9A > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Taylor" <rv7@cox.net> > To: <rv-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: RV-List: Rebuilding engines > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "David Taylor" <rv7@cox.net> > > > > I've heard that it is uncertified once you put it on an experimental and > > must be certified again to be put on a certified aircraft. Does anyone > know > > exactly how the reg reads or is this one of those gray areas? > > > > > > -David Taylor (N207DT reserved) > > Empenage > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Kyle Boatright" <kyle.boatright@adelphia.net> > > To: <rv-list@matronics.com> > > Subject: Re: RV-List: Rebuilding engines > > > > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright" > > <kyle.boatright@adelphia.net> > > > > > > Look at it this way: > > > > > > Unless you have an IA or A/P maintain your engine, it will be > > "uncertified" > > > after the first time you do any maintenance on it... > > > > > > KB > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Gordon Robertson" <res0rlvx@verizon.net> > > > To: <rv-list@matronics.com> > > > Subject: RV-List: Rebuilding engines > > > > > > > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Gordon Robertson" > <res0rlvx@verizon.net> > > > > > > > > It is great to get some real RV information coming in again. Thanks > > > guys! > > > > > > > > A few days ago, a thread appeared on rebuilding a 320 engine. I asked > > > > whether that impacted the insurability of the aircraft, but nobody had > > any > > > > answer. John Helms, are you still here? Has anybody who built up > his > > > own > > > > engine had any problems with insuring it (assuming they told the > > insurance > > > > company, of course)? > > > > > > > > It also applies to the XP360 kit engine. I am sure a lot of us would > > > love > > > > to save the $$ and enjoy the building if we could be sure that the > > > insurance > > > > companies would accept it. > > > > > > > > Gordon Robertson > > > > RV-8 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 07:53:40 PM PST US
    From: Jaye and Scott Jackson <jayeandscott@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: Rebuilding Engines
    --> RV-List message posted by: Jaye and Scott Jackson <jayeandscott@shaw.ca> The last three months, Light Plane Maintenance magazine has run a series on rebuilding an 0-320. Scott in VAncouver ----- Original Message ----- From: "rpmiller" <rpmiller@1usa.net> Subject: RV-List: Rebuilding Engines > --> RV-List message posted by: "rpmiller" <rpmiller@1usa.net> > > previous message starts here > > A few days ago, a thread appeared on rebuilding a 320 engine. I asked > whether that impacted the insurability of the aircraft, but nobody had any > answer. John Helms, are you still here? Has anybody who built up his own > engine had any problems with insuring it (assuming they told the insurance > company, of course)? > > It also applies to the XP360 kit engine. I am sure a lot of us would love > to save the $$ and enjoy the building if we could be sure that the insurance > companies would accept it. > > Gordon Robertson > RV-8 > > ends here > > Why don't you ask an insurance agent and then tell us? > >


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    Time: 07:55:18 PM PST US
    From: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@usjet.net>
    Subject: Twin Cities RV Forum
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@usjet.net> Greetings RVers! Just a reminder that the 9th Annual Twin Cities RV Forum is just 4 weeks away, Saturday, May 31st. This event, which is held in Minneapolis, Minnesota, has become quite the event , with over 200 registered RV enthusiasts in attendance last year! Additionally, over 35 RV's flew in last year, with about 15 of these on display indoors. Details can be found at www.rvforum.org, check back there often as the site is continually being updated. Thanks, Alex Peterson Chairman, Twin Cities RV Forum do not archive


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    Time: 08:02:07 PM PST US
    From: Robert Blum <bob@theblums.net>
    Subject: Re: Rebuilding engines
    --> RV-List message posted by: Robert Blum <bob@theblums.net> Yes you are. ----- Original Message ----- From: "kempthornes" <kempthornes@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: RV-List: Rebuilding engines > --> RV-List message posted by: kempthornes <kempthornes@earthlink.net> > > At 06:34 PM 5/3/2003 -0700, you wrote: > >--> RV-List message posted by: "Glenn Brasch" <gbrasch@earthlink.net> > > > >I was told that once the engine gets bolted on to an experimental, the > >engine is then experimental for it's life and cannot be used on normal > >category aircraft. Am I wrong? Glenn in Arizona -9A > > Yes. > > K. H. (Hal) Kempthorne > RV6-a N7HK flying! > PRB (El Paso de Robles, CA) > > > > > >


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    Time: 08:51:23 PM PST US
    From: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Rich Mixture
    --> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net> Austin, I can't remember if you have a FP or CS prop? If you have a FP prop a good way to lean is to slowly pull the mixture to lean watching the rpm. If you are rich it should increase rpm, note what that max. rpm is. Continue to lean until your rpm is about 100 rpm below the max. lean rpm you noted or it start to run rough then slowly richen the mixture tell the rpm is again back to the max. rpm you saw when you started leaning. At this point push the mixture control in JUST A TINY BIT if you wish, so you are not running at max. lean. This works well if you do not have an EGT gauge with probes to all four cylinders. Some carb/engine combinations have a tendency to run rich so you may want or have to lean even below 3000 ft. Any time I am in level flight regardless of altitude I lean. If you have a CS the easiest way is to use a EGT gauge that has probes for four cylinders and then lean to the leanest running cylinder. The numbers are not as important as just seeing where the numbers peak before starting back down. Some people like to run at max. lean others like to run 50 degrees or so on the rich side of lean. I believe there is also a school of thought that says you can run on the lean side. I do not believe you well have any problems with fried cylinders or detonation if timing and correct grade of fuel are being used. Jerry Austin wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Austin" <6430@axion.net> > >Jerry wrote.............. > > > >>Couple of things, how aggressively do you lean in flight? >> >> > >Actually, not at all below 3,000 ft., also I have never been sure how much >to lean is appropriate...I keep thinking of detonation, fried valves etc., >so I always fly " conservative rich ".....I would like to know more about >this. > >And how far do you taxi after landing with the mixture rich? >Not real far, but was never aware that it was a good idea to lean coming >back to the barn. >Good idea though... > >If the mixture is rich on > > >>the ground while taxiing it does not take long to get the black sooty >>exhaust pipes. >> >> >Thanks a lot Jerry, yours was the only reply I got. >Austin > > > >


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    Time: 09:42:21 PM PST US
    From: bruno <rv4@videotron.ca>
    Subject: Loran-C vs SL-40 Com interference
    --> RV-List message posted by: bruno <rv4@videotron.ca> Hello All From time to time I've got a bad scratching noise in my Com radio cause by my Loran-C ( Flybuddy 800 )and as soon as I turn the Loran "off',it disappeared. I'm wondering if anyone on the list have had the same problem and what was the solution to it? My Com / Loran antennas are mounted on top behind the canopy on my RV-4 about a foot apart. Thanks for any info you may have Bruno Dionne rv4@videotron.ca




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