Today's Message Index:
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1. 04:54 AM - Re: Epoxy on aluminum (Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club)
2. 05:51 AM - Re: Is anyone using a Monroy ATD-200 Collision Avoidance system? (Ralph E. Capen)
3. 06:28 AM - Re: Furnace Creek to Leadville (Denis Walsh)
4. 08:14 AM - Re: Furnace Creek to Leadville (Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club)
5. 08:14 AM - Re: Furnace Creek to Leadville (Scott Vanartsdalen)
6. 08:27 AM - Re: Is anyone using a Monroy ATD-200 Collision Avoidance system? (John Furey)
7. 08:30 AM - Re: Super RV's (RV_8 Pilot)
8. 08:32 AM - Dimple die sizes (Mark Antenbring)
9. 09:51 AM - Re: Furnace Creek to Leadville (Chris W)
10. 10:11 AM - Re: RV List Dimple Sizes (Dick DeCramer)
11. 10:52 AM - Re: Super RV's (Canyon)
12. 12:34 PM - O-320 B3B (Dana Overall)
13. 12:39 PM - Even More RV-10 Pictures! (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
14. 12:56 PM - Re: O-320 B3B (Ed Zercher)
15. 01:28 PM - Re: O-320 B3B (Larry Hawkins)
16. 01:30 PM - More RV-10 PIX (Bill VonDane)
17. 02:00 PM - Re: Max ROC (David.vonLinsowe)
18. 02:03 PM - Re: Super RV's (RV_8 Pilot)
19. 02:38 PM - Re: O-320 B3B (Mike Stephenson)
20. 03:16 PM - Re: More RV-10 PIX (Doug Rozendaal)
21. 03:16 PM - Re: anywheremap with dell axiem (Dan Landry)
22. 03:19 PM - Re: O-320 B3B (Dana Overall)
23. 03:44 PM - Re: Re: Max ROC (Kevin Horton)
24. 03:48 PM - Re: More RV-10 PIX (Jeff Orear)
25. 04:16 PM - Re: More RV-10 PIX (Rob Prior)
26. 04:20 PM - Re: More RV-10 PIX (Sam Buchanan)
27. 04:28 PM - Rosamond Fly-in (Bill Irvine)
28. 04:30 PM - Re: O-320 B3B (Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club)
29. 04:31 PM - Re: More RV-10 PIX (Dave Bristol)
30. 05:19 PM - Re: Re: Max ROC (Alex Peterson)
31. 06:11 PM - Re: Electroluminescent Lighting (sdavis12)
32. 07:05 PM - Re: Electroluminescent Lighting (Paul Stratman)
33. 07:09 PM - Re: More RV-10 PIX (John Starn)
34. 07:09 PM - Re: More RV-10 PIX (Doug Rozendaal)
35. 07:35 PM - Re: More RV-10 PIX (Jeff Orear)
36. 07:47 PM - Re: More RV-10 PIX (Dr. Leathers)
37. 08:08 PM - Re:O-320 B3B (Oldsfolks@aol.com)
38. 09:15 PM - RV10: Oh my God!!!! ()
39. 09:27 PM - Re: Re: RV List Dimple Sizes (Ed Holyoke)
40. 09:41 PM - Re: RV10: Oh my God!!!! (Jerry Springer)
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| Subject: | Re: Epoxy on aluminum |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club" <sisson@consolidated.net>
John Starn wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "John Starn" <jhstarn@earthlink.net>
>
> Don't use masking or duct tape on aluminum unless its only on for a very
> short time. Wide electrical tape cost a bit more but epoxy/'glass won't go
> thru it. It peals off clean after months. Do Not Archive KABONG
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club" <sisson@consolidated.net>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Epoxy on aluminum
>
I usually pull it after the resin cures, never had a problem..
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| Subject: | Re: Is anyone using a Monroy ATD-200 Collision Avoidance system? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
Don,
Check out www.safeair1.com - they have stuff on it there!
Ralph Capen
-------Original Message-------
From: Don Mack <don@dmack.net>
Subject: RV-List: Is anyone using a Monroy ATD-200 Collision Avoidance system?
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Don Mack" <don@dmack.net>
I am laying out my panel and thinking of installing one of these. I'm
curious if anyone has had one for a while and how well they feel it works.
There are some hits in the archive, but they don't provide any real
information.
don mack
don@dmack.net <a target=_blank
href="http://www.dmack.net">www.dmack.net
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| Subject: | Re: Furnace Creek to Leadville |
--> RV-List message posted by: Denis Walsh <denis.walsh@attbi.com>
>
>
> How long will it take to cook a pot of beans.... (untill done)..... at ten
> thousand feet? I still think this is better than the T shirt
> thing. Phil
>
>
> _
>
Seems to me there could be a connection to farting in church so we could get
a religious connection too.
Denis
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| Subject: | Re: Furnace Creek to Leadville |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club" <sisson@consolidated.net>
Denis Walsh wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Denis Walsh <denis.walsh@attbi.com>
>
> >
> >
> > How long will it take to cook a pot of beans.... (untill done)..... at ten
> > thousand feet? I still think this is better than the T shirt
> > thing. Phil
> >
> >
> > _
> >
>
> Seems to me there could be a connection to farting in church so we could get
> a religious connection too.
>
> Denis
LOL ... at those altitudes an oxygen mask would sure help out....
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| Subject: | Re: Furnace Creek to Leadville |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Vanartsdalen <svanarts@yahoo.com>
What kind of primer should you use on that pot?
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Denis Walsh <denis.walsh@attbi.com> wrote:
--> RV-List message posted by: Denis Walsh
>
>
> How long will it take to cook a pot of beans.... (untill done)..... at ten
> thousand feet? I still think this is better than the T shirt
> thing. Phil
>
>
> _
>
Seems to me there could be a connection to farting in church so we could get
a religious connection too.
Denis
--
Scott VanArtsdalen
RV-4 N311SV, FLYING!!
bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you
Luke 6:28, NAS
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| Subject: | Re: Is anyone using a Monroy ATD-200 Collision Avoidance system? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "John Furey" <john@fureychrysler.com>
I have used one for about 50 hours now. It's panel mounted and looks great.
for the money it's a great value. I find it does not make you lazy, it
actually makes you more vigilant. However it is basic, no direction, etc.
If I were starting with a new panel of instruments I think the Garmin 330
Xponder is a great value but you have to stop $ somewhere.
John
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--> RV-List message posted by: "RV_8 Pilot" <rv_8pilot@hotmail.com>
:o You had the chance and passed it up?!?!? Sorry - *no* sympathy from
me! Would have gladly - no would have paid - to have that opportunity. A
small twist of genetics (<20/20 eyesight) kept me out of the cockpit. But
thank goodness, I can enjoy my avgas powered flying!
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Bryan Jones -8
Pearland, Texas
>Probably just still trying to get over wishing I'd taken the Navy up on
>their offer many years ago to send me to OCS and flight training. I
>chose to do it myself, which I did, but I still missed the jets I
>wanted to fly and built a business and family instead. Don't regret
>it, but I guess I'm still haunted with those visions of me in a Tomcat.
><sigh>
>
>Steve
>
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| Subject: | Dimple die sizes |
--> RV-List message posted by: Mark Antenbring <mantenbring@pangaeainc.com>
In the RV-7 rudder tip rib it says to "enlarge hole to #12, and dimple".
Geez, I thought I had all the tools. What size dimple die do I need for #12,
and are there any other oddball sizes I need to order?
Thanks,
Mark
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| Subject: | Re: Furnace Creek to Leadville |
--> RV-List message posted by: Chris W <chrisw3@cox.net>
Denis Walsh wrote:
> Seems to me there could be a connection to farting in church. . .
Do you know what happens when you fart in church?. . . . You sit in your own
pew.
sorry, I know it's dumb but I couldn't resist and most certainly . . .
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--
Chris Woodhouse
3147 SW 127th St.
Oklahoma City, OK 73170
405-691-5206
chrisw@programmer.net
N35 20.492'
W97 34.342'
"They that can give up essential liberty
to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Historical Review of Pennsylvania
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| Subject: | RE: RV List Dimple Sizes |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dick DeCramer" <diesel@rconnect.com>
"In the RV-7 rudder tip rib it says to "enlarge hole to #12, and dimple".
Geez, I thought I had all the tools. What size dimple die do I need for
#12,"
Yes, for the #8 flush head screws that hold the Tanks to the wings and a
few other places. You won't use it often but I got my dimple die from Avery
in the die set he sells. Cleaveland Tool probably has it as well and I am
sure it is available separately.
Dick DeCramer
RV 6 Slider 0-320
Finishing up the finish kit
Northfield, MN
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--> RV-List message posted by: Canyon <steve.canyon@verizon.net>
RV_8 Pilot wrote:
>:o You had the chance and passed it up?!?!? Sorry - *no* sympathy
>from
>me! Would have gladly - no would have paid - to have that
>opportunity. A
>small twist of genetics (<20/20 eyesight) kept me out of the
>cockpit. But
>thank goodness, I can enjoy my avgas powered flying!
---
Yep -- I would have also a few months before that, but a new son born
with a heart defect and family concerns brought me back to ground. His
problem was later corrected completely and his mother ran off with her
high school sweetheart and I therefore found myself adequately punished
for my lack of sound judgement in more than just that transgression of
passing on the Navy's offer. But I was fortunate and turned my 20/10
and high GCT to commercial pursuits and paid for my ticket myself
anyway. And now that lots and lots of time and distance has cured me
of at least some of my obsessions, I'm still left with this RV thing
going on and I will pursue my own agenda for a change from this point
forward to get my own RV in the air and play like it's a Tomcat. :-)
In fact, I guess I'm double lucky -- I think my son is also going to
build a plane, so we may be a double threat to society one of these
days. :-)
Steve
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
Anybody know anything about this engine? I am particularly intersted in the
last B designation and the position and type of carb. Looking to spend
money, just want to make sure it is good money.
Dana Overall
Richmond, KY
RV-7 slider/fuselage
http://rvflying.tripod.com
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| Subject: | Even More RV-10 Pictures! |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
Another set of RV-10 pictures posted today - now with wings!
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Zercher" <ez@sensenich.com>
Dana,
From the Lycoming Book:
O-320-B3B
160 @ 2700
Same as -B1A except for 7/16 in. attaching bolts and straight riser in oil
sump and -32 carburetor.
Hope that helps,
Ed Zercher
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--> RV-List message posted by: Larry Hawkins <lhawkins@giant.com>
And conical mount, not dynafocal. This is important if you already have the
mount. Ask me how I know! :-(
Larry Hawkins, RV-4 Farmington, NM, N-345SL, 84+ hours.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Zercher [mailto:ez@sensenich.com]
Subject: RE: RV-List: O-320 B3B
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Zercher" <ez@sensenich.com>
Dana,
From the Lycoming Book:
O-320-B3B
160 @ 2700
Same as -B1A except for 7/16 in. attaching bolts and straight riser in oil
sump and -32 carburetor.
Hope that helps,
Ed Zercher
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RE: RV-List: O-320 B3B
And conical mount, not dynafocal. This is important if you already have the mount.
Ask me how I know! :-(
Larry Hawkins, RV-4 Farmington, NM, N-345SL, 84+ hours.
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Subject: RE: RV-List: O-320 B3B
-- RV-List message posted by: Ed Zercher ez@sensenich.com
Dana,
From the Lycoming Book:
O-320-B3B
160 @ 2700
Same as -B1A except for 7/16 in. attaching bolts and straight riser in oil
sump and -32 carburetor.
Hope that helps,
Ed Zercher
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"vansairforce" <vansairforce@yahoogroups.com>
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com>
http://www.vansaircraft.com/public/rv-10int8.htm#latest
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--> RV-List message posted by: "David.vonLinsowe" <David.vonLinsowe@delphi.com>
Thanks Randy. What did you ever do with the Hartzell?
Dave
> I'm curious as to what airspeed you're getting max rate of climb in a 180
hp, RV-6 with a C/S prop? I'm doing some prop comparison testing and would
like to start somewhere in the ball park. Since the VSI is pegged and I
don't have room for something like the Rocky Mountain Micro Encoder, I'll be
timing the altitude blocks.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dave
> RV-6 O-360 C/S
Dave, I just finished a considerable amount of prop testing and had the
opportunity to try different speeds. Vy for my plane is 125-130 mph. Since I
was testing for different variables I didn't take the time to resolve which
it is, 125 or 130, but I had been using 120 per data from other builders. In
fact my plane yields a higher Vy at the higher speeds. Weight effects climb
dramatically so make sure your cockpit and fuel loads are known and
accounted for.
Randy Lervold
RV-8
www.rv-8.com
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--> RV-List message posted by: "RV_8 Pilot" <rv_8pilot@hotmail.com>
Well, that's a bad situation! definitely a distraction.
same son with the heart issue flying with you now?!
good luck with the RV.
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Bryan Jones -8
Pearland, Texas
>---
>Yep -- I would have also a few months before that, but a new son born
>with a heart defect and family concerns brought me back to ground. His
>problem was later corrected completely and his mother ran off with her
>high school sweetheart and I therefore found myself adequately punished
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Stephenson" <mike@proclaimweb.com>
As per the book:
the B3B is 160 hp @ 2700 rpm, constant speed crank, 7/16 inch attaching
bolts,straight riser in oil sump,-32 carburetor, 25 degree spark advance
with Bendix S4LN-20 and S4LN-21 Mags.
No further info on B designation nor carb position. Best guess is it is a
downdraft. It is probably out of a Piper Apache (PA-23 "160") but could also
be from a cessna 170, 170A or 170B.
Regards,
Mike Stephenson
RV-6A
> Anybody know anything about this engine? I am particularly intersted in
the
> last B designation and the position and type of carb. Looking to spend
> money, just want to make sure it is good money.
>
>
> Dana Overall
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| Subject: | Re: More RV-10 PIX |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com>
> http://www.vansaircraft.com/public/rv-10int8.htm#latest
>
I am sure that the RV-10 will be a great airplane, and I can't wait to see
the numbers and fly one, but..........
The more new RV designs I see, the more I believe that the model number of
an RV is inversely proportional to its attractiveness. (sorted numerically,
then alpha, of course ;-) ) Sorry, but I think the RV-3 still has the best
lines in the fleet and this airplane will not change that.
Tailwinds,
Doug Rozendaal
RV-4
That oughtta throw some gas on the fire ;-)
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| Subject: | Re: anywheremap with dell axiem |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Landry" <dlandry@adv-sol.net>
I'm using the Dell Axim with the CF GPS.
I purchased the gps from Control Vision. The Dell is very readable in direct
sunlight which is a big improvement over my Casio. There's no serial port on
my unit so I was forced into using the CF for the GPS & run off the
internal battery. The battery lasts about 2 hours, so I purchased a backup
battery from Dell. This can be hotswapped in flight. They also have a 6 hour
battery. I prefer to use the battery as there are no power cables strung
through the cabin
DanLandry
RV-7,71234,101DL
Finishing Emp
>Any of you guys tried the anywhere map using the new Dell
> PDA instead of the IPAC? Looks like a way to save of few
> bucks.
> Gene Larsen, 9A, finish
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
straight riser in oil
>sump and -32 carburetor.
>
>Hope that helps,
>Ed Zercher
This is what I am looking for infomation on. Could someone explain the
straight riser in the sump and a -32 carb. I'd like to at least know
something about it before I start making phone calls.
Dana Overall
Richmond, KY
RV-7 slider/fuselage
http://rvflying.tripod.com
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--> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorto1537@rogers.com>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "David.vonLinsowe"
><David.vonLinsowe@delphi.com>
>
>
>Thanks Randy. What did you ever do with the Hartzell?
>
>Dave
>
>
>> I'm curious as to what airspeed you're getting max rate of climb in a 180
>hp, RV-6 with a C/S prop? I'm doing some prop comparison testing and would
>like to start somewhere in the ball park. Since the VSI is pegged and I
>don't have room for something like the Rocky Mountain Micro Encoder, I'll be
>timing the altitude blocks.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Dave
>> RV-6 O-360 C/S
>
>
>Dave, I just finished a considerable amount of prop testing and had the
>opportunity to try different speeds. Vy for my plane is 125-130 mph. Since I
>was testing for different variables I didn't take the time to resolve which
>it is, 125 or 130, but I had been using 120 per data from other builders. In
>fact my plane yields a higher Vy at the higher speeds. Weight effects climb
>dramatically so make sure your cockpit and fuel loads are known and
>accounted for.
>
>Randy Lervold
>RV-8
>www.rv-8.com
>
A few comments:
The rate of climb vs speed curve should have a reasonably flat top,
such that there will be a range of 5 mph or so where the ROC is very
similar. Thus it would probably take quite a bit of testing, with
data from more than one flight, to see enough of a consistent trend
in the data for Randy to be able to say whether his Vy was 125 or 130.
You also need to understand that each RV has its own errors in the
airspeed indicating system, so 125 - 130 mph IAS on Randy's machine
might be equivalent to something a bit different on yours.
Vy may vary a bit if you change prop models, as different props may
have different efficiency vs airspeed curves.
It is not easy to get good quality climb performance data. As Randy
noted, you need to have a very good idea of the weight at each test
point. It is probably worthwhile using ballast if required to get
the same weight for the tests with different props.
Do the testing with the altimeter set to 29.92, rather than the
altimeter setting of the day. Don't forget to reset the altimeter
prior to returning to the airport - this is a good item to write on
the bottom of the test card. Note the outside air temperature so
that you can make some adjustment in case the tests with different
props are done on days with different air temperatures. Note the rpm
and manifold pressure, just to be sure the engine power is similar
for the tests with different props. Some variation in prop governor
setting, or dirty air filter, etc could pollute the results of your
tests.
You need smooth air to get good data. If it is turbulent, don't even
waste your time trying, as your results won't be repeatable. Pay
attention to the wind direction and local topography to be sure you
won't get any wave effect from the wind over any hills. This can
really play havoc with the repeatability of your data. Try to repeat
each test point on another day, with a different weather pattern to
see whether your results are repeatable.
The wind will be changing direction and speed as you climb, and that
can affect the time required to climb through an altitude band. So,
talk to the weather office to figure out what direction the wind is
expected to be from in the middle of your test altitude block, and
pick a heading that will put the wind on your wing tip, i.e. your
heading should be 90 deg from the expected wind direction. Do each
test point twice, once with the wind on one heading, and then turn
180 degrees and repeat. Average the rates of climb for those two
runs. That way the effect of any changes in wind direction on one
run will be cancelled out by the run in the other direction.
You will get much better results if you can take someone with you to
record data, and to look out for other traffic. That way you can
concentrate on flying accurate speeds. Do a few practice climbs
before trying to take data on the first test flight. You should be
able to hold the speed within one mph for the whole test point. If
you can't, you either need more practice, or the air isn't smooth
enough.
It is easy to get wrapped up in doing tests like this, and to forget
to look out for traffic.
If you want some help making some sense of the data, let me know.
Have fun, and fly safe.
--
Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit)
Ottawa, Canada
http://go.phpwebhosting.com/~khorton/rv8/
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Orear" <jorear@new.rr.com>
Sorry, but I think the RV-3 still has the best
> lines in the fleet and this airplane will not change that.
>
> Tailwinds,
> Doug Rozendaal
> RV-4
>
> That oughtta throw some gas on the fire ;-)
>
>
> _-
That's only because you haven't seen my RV6A Doug...........
That does it....no beer for you at OSH!
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Jeff Orear
RV6A
fuselage
Peshtigo, WI
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| Subject: | Re: More RV-10 PIX |
--> RV-List message posted by: Rob Prior <rv7@b4.ca>
Doug Rozendaal wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com>
>
>>http://www.vansaircraft.com/public/rv-10int8.htm#latest
>
> The more new RV designs I see, the more I believe that the model number of
> an RV is inversely proportional to its attractiveness. (sorted numerically,
> then alpha, of course ;-) ) Sorry, but I think the RV-3 still has the best
> lines in the fleet and this airplane will not change that.
Now if they'd put a *tailwheel* on it instead of a nosewheel, it would
look better... 8-) But i'm more concerned with the increased percentage
of fibreglass in the construction. Soon we won't be able to turn our
noses up at the fast glass crowd, if the current trend keeps up...
-RB4
rv7 "at" b4.ca
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| Subject: | Re: More RV-10 PIX |
--> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
Doug Rozendaal wrote:
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com>
>
> > http://www.vansaircraft.com/public/rv-10int8.htm#latest
> >
> I am sure that the RV-10 will be a great airplane, and I can't wait to see
> the numbers and fly one, but..........
>
> The more new RV designs I see, the more I believe that the model number of
> an RV is inversely proportional to its attractiveness. (sorted numerically,
> then alpha, of course ;-) ) Sorry, but I think the RV-3 still has the best
> lines in the fleet and this airplane will not change that.
It looks sorta like a Cherokee................... =8
O
Sam Buchanan
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--> RV-List message posted by: Bill Irvine <wgirvine@yahoo.com>
SoCal Listers,
My EAA chapter is having our 12th annual Scotty
Horowitz going-away
party/fly-in/barbeque/stand-around-and-look-at-airplanes
this Saturday, May 17 at Rosamond Skypark, L00.
Sorry, I don't have coordinates, but it's real easy to
find; half-way between Lancaster and Mojave.
Like most of our activities, this is a very low-key,
laid-back, nothing planned event. Just fly in, land,
and enjoy the airplanes. Lunch will consist of the
ever-popular dogs & burgers, expertly grilled by our
Grillmeister. Don't quote me, but I think 5 bucks
gets you your choice of dog or burger, with chips and
soda. Starts around 10am, ends around 3pm.
If the weather is nice and you want an excuse to fly
somewhere, please join us for some fun and food. Show
off your skill in the hotly contested spot landing
contest (8-10am, first landing only, announce on
CTAF.) Or polish up your pride and joy and try for
Peoples' Choice Award (but understand that the judges
take bribes!) Go to: eaa1000.av.org for details.
See you there. (Tom Gummo, are you listening? Get
that Rocket up here!)
Bill Irvine
Chapter 1000, "we have more zeros than anyone"
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club" <sisson@consolidated.net>
Dana Overall wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
>
> Anybody know anything about this engine? I am particularly intersted in the
> last B designation and the position and type of carb. Looking to spend
> money, just want to make sure it is good money.
>
> Dana Overall
> Richmond, KY
> RV-7 slider/fuselage
> http://rvflying.tripod.com
> do not archive
>
I would call him and talk with him about the carb and how it is arranged.
Straight riser in sump is a new one to me. But it could be the feed to the oil
pump.... There are two ways this can be. one is straight up the sump and then on
up to the pump via a channel in the accessory case. (straight shot all the way.
The other way is: they screw a plug into the accessory case where it mates to
the sump, and then bolt on a pick-up tube that extends over to about the middle
of the sump. I dont know that either is better. I think they figured how to run
it up through the rear of the sump casting and saved making the bent tube.
I am not sure this is what they mean but it may be...
Phil
>
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| Subject: | Re: More RV-10 PIX |
--> RV-List message posted by: Dave Bristol <bj034@lafn.org>
Doug,
You won't get any gas from me!
Dave
RV-6
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Doug Rozendaal wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com>
>
> > http://www.vansaircraft.com/public/rv-10int8.htm#latest
> >
> I am sure that the RV-10 will be a great airplane, and I can't wait to see
> the numbers and fly one, but..........
>
> The more new RV designs I see, the more I believe that the model number of
> an RV is inversely proportional to its attractiveness. (sorted numerically,
> then alpha, of course ;-) ) Sorry, but I think the RV-3 still has the best
> lines in the fleet and this airplane will not change that.
>
> Tailwinds,
> Doug Rozendaal
> RV-4
>
> That oughtta throw some gas on the fire ;-)
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@usjet.net>
>
> The rate of climb vs speed curve should have a reasonably flat top,
> such that there will be a range of 5 mph or so where the ROC is very
> similar. Thus it would probably take quite a bit of testing, with
> data from more than one flight, to see enough of a consistent trend
> in the data for Randy to be able to say whether his Vy was 125 or 130.
>
> You also need to understand that each RV has its own errors in the
> airspeed indicating system, so 125 - 130 mph IAS on Randy's machine
> might be equivalent to something a bit different on yours.
>
> Vy may vary a bit if you change prop models, as different props may
> have different efficiency vs airspeed curves.
>
> It is not easy to get good quality climb performance data. As Randy
> noted, you need to have a very good idea of the weight at each test
> point. It is probably worthwhile using ballast if required to get
> the same weight for the tests with different props.
I'll second the difficulty getting this data. When I did this, I
started at something like 2500msl, and established full throttle, full
prop power and nailed an airspeed, kept the ball centered. I then held
this from 3000 to 4000 msl and timed it. I repeated this a couple times
for each airspeed in 10's from 70kias to 120kias. The amazing thing was
how little the time to climb from 3000'-4000' varied with speed (I have
a 180 C/S 6A). I don't have the data at hand, but the range was about
27s to 33s. There is simply very little difference in ROC within this
large speed range. Nailing down the single Vy speed would really take
some work.
Alex Peterson
Maple Grove, MN
RV6-A N66AP 297 hours
www.rvforum.org MAY 31st!!!
www.usfamily.net/web/alexpeterson
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| Subject: | Re: Electroluminescent Lighting |
--> RV-List message posted by: "sdavis12" <sdavis12@midsouth.rr.com>
Mark,
I still haven't received the drawing! still looking.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Phillips" <ripsteel@edge.net>
<rv-list@matronics.com>
Subject: RV-List: Electroluminescent Lighting
> --> RV-List message posted by: Mark Phillips <ripsteel@edge.net>
>
> About 2 or 3 months ago there was a brief discussion on EL lighting with
> some links- I can not find the one I need in the archives, (I found the
> "Being Seen" site). This was for the non-aviation sheet and strip
> lighting. Would appreciate any links- Thanks!
>
> Mark Phillips - do not archive -
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Electroluminescent Lighting |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Stratman" <pauls@kc.rr.com>
I have EL lighting strip across the under side of my glare shield. LOVE it.
Got it at beingseen.com , called the guy, great to work with. A little slow
in shipping
from what I remember, but the stuff is fantastic at lighting the panel in my
6A
Paul
RV-6A N21PS
"Taylor Maid"
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| Subject: | Re: More RV-10 PIX |
--> RV-List message posted by: "John Starn" <jhstarn@earthlink.net>
Using that logic where does the HR2 or F-1 fit in. KABONG Do Not Archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: More RV-10 PIX
> then alpha, of course ;-) ) Sorry, but I think the RV-3 still has the
best
> lines in the fleet
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| Subject: | Re: More RV-10 PIX |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com>
Uh oh,
What was I thinking, a cheese yellow RV-6A with Green Bay trim must be the
most beautiful airplane I have ever seen!!!!
Tailwinds,
Doug Rozendaal
Can I have my beer at OSH now?
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| Subject: | Re: More RV-10 PIX |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Orear" <jorear@new.rr.com>
How did you know that is my color scheme!!?? ;
)
Ok, ok....the beer will be cold. Geeze I hate it when he begs..........
Do Not Archive
Regards,
Jeff Orear
RV6A
fuselage
Peshtigo, WI (Yup...Packerland!)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: More RV-10 PIX
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com>
>
> Uh oh,
>
> What was I thinking, a cheese yellow RV-6A with Green Bay trim must be the
> most beautiful airplane I have ever seen!!!!
>
> Tailwinds,
> Doug Rozendaal
>
> Can I have my beer at OSH now?
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: More RV-10 PIX |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dr. Leathers" <DrLeathers@822heal.com>
If we are going to talk about beautiful lines, go see what is soon to be
available to RV-8 builders at www.showplanes.com Personally, I can't wait to
see what these mods do for speed!! Combine this fastback mod with the
Super-8 stuff we are seeing now, and WOW!!!! Pre-punched kit, improved lines
and Rocket Power!! Am I right??
Doc
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Starn" <jhstarn@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: More RV-10 PIX
> --> RV-List message posted by: "John Starn" <jhstarn@earthlink.net>
>
> Using that logic where does the HR2 or F-1 fit in. KABONG Do Not Archive
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: RV-List: More RV-10 PIX
>
>
> > then alpha, of course ;-) ) Sorry, but I think the RV-3 still has the
> best
> > lines in the fleet
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com
The carb on this engine is mounted in the middle of the sump. The FAB airbox
from Vans uses the inlet snout full length. It is 160 HP as stated ,with
hollow crank for constant speed prop. Conical mount .
Mine had low compression pistons (150 HP )installed for low compression &
mogas use.
It is the early narrow deck engine. Mine had 3/8" prop bolt lugs in the
crank. I changed them to 7/16" (About $28 each). You can get used lugs from
an engine rebuild shop in Tulsa,Ok for less.
Try to get the engine cooling baffling with it. The patterns from Vans
doesn't fit. You have to build it to fit.
Hope this helps,
Bob Olds A&P , EAA Tech. Counselor
RV-4 , N1191X , Flying Now
Charleston, Arkansas
"Real Aviators Fly Taildraggers"
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| Subject: | RV10: Oh my God!!!! |
--> RV-List message posted by: <ktlkrn@cox.net>
It's true, I know the truth, and have seen the light. But what are you glass blasphemies
going to do? Oh my God, the whole top half of the 10 is, DO I DARE SAY
IT????
Fiberglass!!!!!
Can't wait to see it in person. Glass is nice!!!
Darwin N. Barrie
Chandler AZ
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| Subject: | RE: RV List Dimple Sizes |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Holyoke" <bicyclop@pacbell.net>
A #12 drill seems kinda big for a #8 screw. I use a #19 or #20 for
those. I think you must be prepping for a #10 (3/16) screw if you're
drilling #12.
Ed Holyoke
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-
> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dick DeCramer
> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 10:13 AM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV-List: RE: RV List Dimple Sizes
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dick DeCramer" <diesel@rconnect.com>
>
> "In the RV-7 rudder tip rib it says to "enlarge hole to #12, and
dimple".
> Geez, I thought I had all the tools. What size dimple die do I need
for
> #12,"
>
> Yes, for the #8 flush head screws that hold the Tanks to the wings and
a
> few other places. You won't use it often but I got my dimple die from
> Avery
> in the die set he sells. Cleaveland Tool probably has it as well and
I am
> sure it is available separately.
>
> Dick DeCramer
> RV 6 Slider 0-320
> Finishing up the finish kit
> Northfield, MN
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RV10: Oh my God!!!! |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
Well not the whole top half, just the cabin area.
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Jerry
ktlkrn@cox.net wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: <ktlkrn@cox.net>
>
> It's true, I know the truth, and have seen the light. But what are you glass
blasphemies going to do? Oh my God, the whole top half of the 10 is, DO I DARE
SAY IT????
>
> Fiberglass!!!!!
>
> Can't wait to see it in person. Glass is nice!!!
>
> Darwin N. Barrie
> Chandler AZ
>
>
>
>
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