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1. 03:29 AM - Re: Cracked canopy (Kevin Horton)
2. 03:40 AM - Re: Someone from Van's (Jim Sears)
3. 06:04 AM - Re: Plane FUN (Jeff Dowling)
4. 09:39 AM - Re: Someone from Van's (LeastDrag93066@aol.com)
5. 09:53 AM - Pop rivet dimpler -- nail size? (Dan Checkoway)
6. 10:09 AM - Re: Someone from Van's (Jim Jewell)
7. 10:39 AM - Re: Someone from Timbuktu (Konrad Werner)
8. 12:15 PM - Re: Pop rivet dimpler -- nail size? (Mark Phillips)
9. 12:26 PM - Re: Someone from Van's (Kevin Horton)
10. 12:32 PM - Ehnanced engine cooling (Mark Phillips)
11. 01:01 PM - Re: Re: Elevator/rudder cracks (Boyd C. Braem)
12. 01:19 PM - Re: Ehnanced engine cooling (kempthornes)
13. 02:08 PM - Re: Ehnanced engine cooling (Mark Phillips)
14. 03:10 PM - Re: Ehnanced engine cooling (kempthornes)
15. 03:22 PM - Re: Pop rivet dimpler -- nail size? (HCRV6@aol.com)
16. 04:51 PM - Re: Someone from Van's (Jerry Springer)
17. 05:23 PM - Re: Pop rivet dimpler -- nail size? (Dan Checkoway)
18. 05:40 PM - Airmap 100 (austin)
19. 05:40 PM - (bert murillo)
20. 05:48 PM - Re: RV-10 (Scott Vanartsdalen)
21. 05:55 PM - some one from Van's (bert murillo)
22. 05:56 PM - Re: Someone from Van's (John Starn)
23. 06:11 PM - Whelen Strobe Location (Chuck Weyant)
24. 06:13 PM - Re: Pop rivet dimpler -- nail size? (Dan Checkoway)
25. 07:19 PM - Re: some one from Van's (Paul Besing)
26. 08:00 PM - Re: some one from Van's (James E. Clark)
27. 09:05 PM - Re: some one from Van's (Jim Oke)
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| Subject: | Re: Cracked canopy |
--> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorto1537@rogers.com>
>--> RV-List message posted by: Rquinn1@aol.com
>
>I have a 2" crack in my windscreen. I stop drilled the crack as soon as I
>noticed it and it seems to have ended. Does any one have a suggestion how I
>can repair or hide the crack?
>I looked in the archives but could find nothing about repairing cracks.
>Thanks
>Rollie
>
There are several good messages on this subject in the archives. One
of the best was posted by Noel Drew on Jan. 16, 2001 with the subject
RV-4 canopy crack . Noel gave a detailed explanation of how he fixed
a crack on the windscreen of his RV-6 using liquid methyl
methacrylate monomer, which is apparently the raw material used in
the manufacture of sheet plexiglas.
--
Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit)
Ottawa, Canada
http://go.phpwebhosting.com/~khorton/rv8/
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| Subject: | Re: Someone from Van's |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Sears" <sears@searnet.com>
> Yes people were rude to them Dr. Leathers, and they didn't even have a >biblical
reference in their email signature. Hard to imagine someone being >rude on
this list isn't it?
I've been a contributor on the list since 1996. I've been flamed a lot and almost
gave it up several times. However, I've found that responding off line is
the best bet for me. That way, I can answer the requestor and know that someone
will not flame me for my input on a problem. Unfortunately, a good piece
of information can be lost to those others who are lurking out there and could
use that piece of info. I don't claim to be an expert; but, I've been around
RVs for a while, now. When I built my RV, I appreciated all of the useful answers
I got and picked the best one for me. When one gets flamed enough and drops
out of the contributor's list, that is one less option to pick from. Unfortunately,
this list is only as good as its knowledge base of those who are willing
to risk being flamed. Some of us have much thinner skins and can't take
the heat for very long. That's when we lose good people on the list. Most
unfortunate.
Jim Sears in KY
RV-6A N198JS
EAA Tech Counselor
do not archive
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling@earthlink.net>
Hey now, leave that beautiful ole herc alone. She may be big and ugly but
at least shes slow.
Do not archive
shemp
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| Subject: | Re: Someone from Van's |
--> RV-List message posted by: LeastDrag93066@aol.com
In a message dated 05/31/2003 3:41:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
sears@searnet.com writes:
> I've been a contributor on the list since 1996. I've been flamed a lot and
> almost gave it up several times. However, I've found that responding off
> line is the best bet for me. That way, I can answer the requestor and know
> that someone will not flame me for my input on a problem. Unfortunately, a good
> piece of information can be lost to those others who are lurking out there
> and could use that piece of info. (Stuff Cut)
> Jim Sears in KY
> RV-6A N198JS
> EAA Tech Counselor
> do not archive
>
IMHO, The RV-List seems to share a common bond with the TV show "The Weakest
Link". The most knowledgeable are eliminated first. :-)
Jim Ayers
EAA Tech Counselor
EAA Flight Advisor
Less Drag Products, Inc. - Southern California MT Propeller
Do Not Archive
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| Subject: | Pop rivet dimpler -- nail size? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
This is probably a stupid question, but I finally ran out of the nails that
came with my Avery 3/32" pop rivet dimple die set. I find that 5D nails are
a bit too small for the task, and 6D nails are definitely too big. The
nails that came with the dies are some 'tweener size. Can anybody point me
at a source for these nails? Lowe's was stumped, and I'm no carpenter -- I
can barely build an airframe... 8-)
Thanks in advance,
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
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| Subject: | Re: Someone from Van's |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net>
Well Golly Gosh there Jim,
I'm still on this list non-stop for almost 7 years. Does this then rank me
as nearer to the least knowledgeable in the list gene pool??....{;-)!
Gee's Jerry S. I hate to think where..........?!
Jim in Kelowna-polluting the pool again [:-}
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: <LeastDrag93066@aol.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Someone from Van's
> --> RV-List message posted by: LeastDrag93066@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 05/31/2003 3:41:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> sears@searnet.com writes:
>
>
> > I've been a contributor on the list since 1996. I've been flamed a lot
and
> > almost gave it up several times. However, I've found that responding
off
> > line is the best bet for me. That way, I can answer the requestor and
know
> > that someone will not flame me for my input on a problem.
Unfortunately, a good
> > piece of information can be lost to those others who are lurking out
there
> > and could use that piece of info. (Stuff Cut)
> > Jim Sears in KY
> > RV-6A N198JS
> > EAA Tech Counselor
> > do not archive
> >
>
> IMHO, The RV-List seems to share a common bond with the TV show "The
Weakest
> Link". The most knowledgeable are eliminated first. :-)
>
> Jim Ayers
> EAA Tech Counselor
> EAA Flight Advisor
> Less Drag Products, Inc. - Southern California MT Propeller
> Do Not Archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Someone from Timbuktu |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Konrad Werner" <Connywerner@wans.net>
Jim,
Does that mean that all subscribers that manage to willfully stay on this list
should be ashamed about their (limited) knowledge base ?
If so, then perhaps there is a way around it : Get OFF-List every once in a while
to "pretend" to be more knowledgeable !
DO NOT ARCHIVE / DO NOT ARCHIVE / DO NOT ARCHIVE this nonsense of mine!
>>IMHO, The RV-List seems to share a common bond with the TV show "The Weakest
>>Link". The most knowledgeable are eliminated first. :-)
>>Jim Ayers
>>EAA Tech Counselor
>>EAA Flight Advisor
>>Less Drag Products, Inc. - Southern California MT Propeller
>>Do Not Archive
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| Subject: | Re: Pop rivet dimpler -- nail size? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Mark Phillips <ripsteel@edge.net>
Hi Dan-
Not sure what # size they are, but I'm using standard finishing nails I probably
got at Lowes or HD that are about 2 or 2-1/2" long (not in the shop- not sure
exactly) but I do have to buff off the nothches under the head and around the
point to get 'em through the die. If you found a nail that was just a little
too big maybe that's why........
From The PossumWorks
Mark
Dan Checkoway wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
>
> This is probably a stupid question, but I finally ran out of the nails that
> came with my Avery 3/32" pop rivet dimple die set. I find that 5D nails are
> a bit too small for the task, and 6D nails are definitely too big. The
> nails that came with the dies are some 'tweener size. Can anybody point me
> at a source for these nails? Lowe's was stumped, and I'm no carpenter -- I
> can barely build an airframe... 8-)
>
> Thanks in advance,
> )_( Dan
> RV-7 N714D
> http://www.rvproject.com
>
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| Subject: | Re: Someone from Van's |
--> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorto1537@rogers.com>
>--> RV-List message posted by: LeastDrag93066@aol.com
>
>IMHO, The RV-List seems to share a common bond with the TV show "The Weakest
>Link". The most knowledgeable are eliminated first. :-)
>
>Jim Ayers
>EAA Tech Counselor
>EAA Flight Advisor
>Less Drag Products, Inc. - Southern California MT Propeller
>Do Not Archive
>
That's pretty humble for a guy who has been on the list since at
least mid-95 :) Jerry Springer has only been around about 6 months
longer than that, and I seem to recall he left for over six months
after some particularly nasty exchanges.
--
Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit)
Ottawa, Canada
http://go.phpwebhosting.com/~khorton/rv8/
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| Subject: | Ehnanced engine cooling |
--> RV-List message posted by: Mark Phillips <ripsteel@edge.net>
Anyone having front-hinged oil access doors have any experience with
them coming open in flight (accidentally or on purpose) and seeing any
improvement in engine cooling? Seems a forward-opening door would
provide an appreciable increase in cowl outlet area. After looking at
Bob Hasson's door on his damn near perfect -6A with it's cockpit
operated cable (see Jan. SA, page 37 for the door and the unbelievable
cowling fit!!!), this might make a handy "cowl flap" if needed on a
really hot day. The Fluid Dynamics article in the April '97 Sport
Aviation show this area as relatively neutral for skin pressure- with
the door open an inch or so and held there, it just might let out a
decent amount of air. (?)
Bob, ya out there?
Mark - do not archive -
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator/rudder cracks |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Boyd C. Braem" <bcbraem@comcast.net>
As many of you know, the Super 6 has an IO-540 (and the horsepower
rating depends on whether you believe the dyno at LyCon (low) or the
fuel flow rates (higher!!!<grin>)--(but that's a story for another time
when we can pop some beers and put our feet up in the hangar), and
swings an 80" prop. Originally, the plane was built with the 0.016
rudder and elevator skins and with RTV glopped all over the back
(trailing edge of the stiffeners). Cracks started appearing at the
forward most stiffener rivet between 50-60 hrs on the right elevator and
the right side of the rudder. The left elevator never developed any
rivet-area cracks. Some of the cracks on the right elevator kept
growing, even thru the stop-drill holes.
I rebuilt the elevators and rudder with 0.020 skins, used the RTV on the
back end of the stiffeners, pro-sealed the stiffeners to the skins and
put the forward end of the stiffener closer to the spar (I had many
discussions with knowledgeable friends, many done on the back of
napkins, about attaching the stiffeners to the spar, but at the time
Van's didn't recommend it, so I didn't???). I also decreased (closer
together) the rivet spacing on the forward 3" of the stiffeners. No
cracks after 400 hrs.
I had a friend shoot some pro quality video of the empennage during
pre-flight run-up (1500 rpm on my plane) and the visible vibration from
the engine and *esp* the prop-wash was pretty incredible.
I am convinced, tho I don't have the technical equipment to prove it,
that these skin/rivet cracks come from the umdamped/undampened(?)
vibration during run-up. The vibration stress on the empennage when it
is moving thru the air is waaaaaayyyy different (ie, less) than when
you're sitting on the asphalt/concrete.
Love and Kisses,
Boyd.
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com>
>
>All,
>
>The pink panther has a IO-320 160 hp and I run the snot out of it, acro and
>every thing. I have several cracks on both sides, front and back rivit, I
>have fixed all of them with "Click" patches which are a little kit for
>sealing leaking rivits on Cherokee fuel tanks. I stop drill them, and apply
>the patch and never had a problem again. Hammerheads and full rudder slips
>aggravate the problem......
>
Bob Japundza wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Bob Japundza <bjapundza@yahoo.com>
>
>
>Guys, I have had cracks on my RV-6 rudder show up on the forward end on three
stiffeners on the right side. Airplane has 180 with a Hartzell and I do a fair
amount of gentleman's aerobatics. Prop was dynamically balanced and it runs
smooth. The rudder cracks started around 200 hours, then stopped (they haven't
gotten any longer, started elsewhere, etc.). I am still flying with the cracks
there and they have posed no problem in the last 250 hours, and I've kept
a close eye on them Rather than over analyze the thing I think it has to do
with workmanship more than anything. If there is any sort of oil-canning then
cracks will propagate. On the other side of the rudder, and above and below
the side where the cracks are there is no oil canning, thus no cracks. I believe
the .020 is more forgiving when you bend the trailing edge as far as the oilcanning
goes. If you use a 3/16" rod inside the trailing edge to support the
skins as you bend them then you shouldn't have a pr!
>oblem. I have recently built a new RV-7 rudder/vfin for the airplane and bent
the t/e as I described and everything is as tight as a drum. I did use some
old proseal to glue the stiffeners as I riveted them on and that worked out very
well, albeit a little messy.
>
>Regards,
>
>Bob Japundza, RV-6 N244BJ
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Ehnanced engine cooling |
--> RV-List message posted by: kempthornes <kempthornes@earthlink.net>
At 02:27 PM 5/31/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Mark Phillips <ripsteel@edge.net>
>....show this area as relatively neutral for skin pressure- with
>the door open an inch or so and held there, it just might let out a
>decent amount of air. (?)
Wouldn't the air let out be that which we want to go down thru the fins and
cool the cylinders? That is, we would just lose cooling air.
K. H. (Hal) Kempthorne
RV6-a N7HK flying!
PRB (El Paso de Robles, CA)
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| Subject: | Re: Ehnanced engine cooling |
--> RV-List message posted by: Mark Phillips <ripsteel@edge.net>
I sure hope not- the air under the door has (hopefully!) already been through
them fins (unless your door is in FRONT of your rear baffle, that is!) I've
installed dual plenums, so it wouldn't matter anyway.....but then, maybe I got
it wackbards- better go check! 8-)
Mark
kempthornes wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: kempthornes <kempthornes@earthlink.net>
>
> At 02:27 PM 5/31/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> >--> RV-List message posted by: Mark Phillips <ripsteel@edge.net>
>
> >....show this area as relatively neutral for skin pressure- with
> >the door open an inch or so and held there, it just might let out a
> >decent amount of air. (?)
>
> Wouldn't the air let out be that which we want to go down thru the fins and
> cool the cylinders? That is, we would just lose cooling air.
>
> K. H. (Hal) Kempthorne
> RV6-a N7HK flying!
> PRB (El Paso de Robles, CA)
>
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| Subject: | Re: Ehnanced engine cooling |
--> RV-List message posted by: kempthornes <kempthornes@earthlink.net>
Oh, yeah, the baffle! For a moment there I was worried I had put the
engine in backwards!
hal
At 04:02 PM 5/31/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Mark Phillips <ripsteel@edge.net>
>
>I sure hope not- the air under the door has (hopefully!) already been through
>them fins (unless your door is in FRONT of your rear baffle, that is!) I've
>installed dual plenums, so it wouldn't matter anyway.....but then, maybe I got
>it wackbards- better go check! 8-)
>
>Mark
>
>kempthornes wrote:
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: kempthornes <kempthornes@earthlink.net>
> >
> > At 02:27 PM 5/31/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> > >--> RV-List message posted by: Mark Phillips <ripsteel@edge.net>
> >
> > >....show this area as relatively neutral for skin pressure- with
> > >the door open an inch or so and held there, it just might let out a
> > >decent amount of air. (?)
> >
> > Wouldn't the air let out be that which we want to go down thru the fins and
> > cool the cylinders? That is, we would just lose cooling air.
> >
> > K. H. (Hal) Kempthorne
> > RV6-a N7HK flying!
> > PRB (El Paso de Robles, CA)
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| Subject: | Re: Pop rivet dimpler -- nail size? |
--> RV-List message posted by: HCRV6@aol.com
In a message dated 5/31/03 9:56:05 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
dan@rvproject.com writes:
<< This is probably a stupid question, but I finally ran out of the nails that
came with my Avery 3/32" pop rivet dimple die set. I find that 5D nails are
a bit too small for the task, and 6D nails are definitely too big. The
nails that came with the dies are some 'tweener size. Can anybody point me
at a source for these nails? Lowe's was stumped, and I'm no carpenter -- I
can barely build an airframe... 8-)
>>
I use 6D finishing nails with mine but find that I have to smooth the ridges
off the tip so that they will fit into the dies. Just give them a quick twirl
against your belt sander as if you were sharpening them and they work fine.
PS. I also discovered a while ago that for thin aluminum skins and the
stainless firewall sheet you can use the same nail over and over, just pull hard
enough to form the dimple but not pop the head off the nail. How's that for not
very useful information?
Harry Crosby
Pleasanton, California
RV-6, firewall forward
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| Subject: | Re: Someone from Van's |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
Kevin Horton wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorto1537@rogers.com>
>
>>--> RV-List message posted by: LeastDrag93066@aol.com
>>
>>IMHO, The RV-List seems to share a common bond with the TV show "The Weakest
>>Link". The most knowledgeable are eliminated first. :-)
>>
>>Jim Ayers
>>EAA Tech Counselor
>>EAA Flight Advisor
>>Less Drag Products, Inc. - Southern California MT Propeller
>>Do Not Archive
>>
>
> That's pretty humble for a guy who has been on the list since at
> least mid-95 :) Jerry Springer has only been around about 6 months
> longer than that, and I seem to recall he left for over six months
> after some particularly nasty exchanges.
Yes as someone suggested that moved me back up in the gene pool...
well maybe not. :-)
do not archive
Jerry
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| Subject: | Re: Pop rivet dimpler -- nail size? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
Well, I got this ridiculously minor issue resolved today. As it turns out,
I had 6D "Bright Common" nails, which were too large. I bought some 6D
"Bright Finish" nails, and they were too large as well...but if you grind
off just the slightest amount from the flats on the point it fits through
the 3/32" die perfectly.
So there you go...Grip-Rite 6D Bright Common nails ($1.27 for a pound of 'em
at Lowe's), grind the tip round, done deal.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: <HCRV6@aol.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Pop rivet dimpler -- nail size?
> --> RV-List message posted by: HCRV6@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 5/31/03 9:56:05 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> dan@rvproject.com writes:
>
> << This is probably a stupid question, but I finally ran out of the nails
that
> came with my Avery 3/32" pop rivet dimple die set. I find that 5D nails
are
> a bit too small for the task, and 6D nails are definitely too big. The
> nails that came with the dies are some 'tweener size. Can anybody point
me
> at a source for these nails? Lowe's was stumped, and I'm no carpenter --
I
> can barely build an airframe... 8-)
> >>
>
> I use 6D finishing nails with mine but find that I have to smooth the
ridges
> off the tip so that they will fit into the dies. Just give them a quick
twirl
> against your belt sander as if you were sharpening them and they work
fine.
>
> PS. I also discovered a while ago that for thin aluminum skins and the
> stainless firewall sheet you can use the same nail over and over, just
pull hard
> enough to form the dimple but not pop the head off the nail. How's that
for not
> very useful information?
>
> Harry Crosby
> Pleasanton, California
> RV-6, firewall forward
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "austin" <austin@uniserve.com>
For Sale....Lowrance Airmap 100.....with power cord....as new...$300,
Please contact off list.
Austin.
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--> RV-List message posted by: " bert murillo" <bert6@mybluelight.com>
Sign up for Internet Service under $10 dollars a month, at http://isp.BlueLight.com
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--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Vanartsdalen <svanarts@yahoo.com>
Bob,
All you need to care about is the shape of the windshield! Let the pax worry about
the back seat window. ;-)
Bob Newman <newmanb@rocketmail.com> wrote:
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Newman"
I really want to like it, but to my eye the shape of that back window looks
odd; it just doesn't quite fit with the lines of the airplane. Maybe it will
be OK when I see the real thing.
Best Regards,
Bob
--
Scott VanArtsdalen
RV-4 N311SV, FLYING!!
bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you
Luke 6:28, NAS
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| Subject: | some one from Van's |
--> RV-List message posted by: " bert murillo" <bert6@mybluelight.com>
Hi:
It is a shame that Scott Mcdaniels, does not
participate to the list any more. He used to be
a very valuable contributor to the list, for his
knowledge, as a builder and as an employee of Van's.
When asked a technical question about,construction
of our Rv's,,he knew the answers to solve our problems...
I guess, Van's does not allow any one to, be on the
list, for reasons of Legal Liability????
But I think it would be very convenient to us, if
we could have one of the technical people from
Van's, be on the Rv-list, so we could present our
questions . Let's say that certain days, at certain
time, one could then address, the question....
It would save a lot of time, and money in long distance
calls....
Maybe there is a reason they dont do that..
Bert
Rv6a
Canopy......
Do Not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Someone from Van's |
--> RV-List message posted by: "John Starn" <jhstarn@earthlink.net>
OH, NO, Jim, say it isn't so. After all, WE are still here. What's that say
about us ?. KABONG (GBA) Do Not Archive
> --> RV-List message posted by: LeastDrag93066@aol.com
> IMHO, The RV-List seems to share a common bond with the TV show "The
Weakest
> Link". The most knowledgeable are eliminated first. :-)
>
> Jim Ayers
> EAA Tech Counselor
> EAA Flight Advisor
> Less Drag Products, Inc. - Southern California MT Propeller
> Do Not Archive
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| Subject: | Whelen Strobe Location |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Chuck Weyant" <chuck@chuckdirect.com>
I'd like to mount the power supply forward of the Panel next to the radio stack.
Has anyone any experience with this location? Any EMF, buzzing or interference
with the radios or any other systems from the strobe power supply mounted
here?
Chuck Weyant
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| Subject: | Re: Pop rivet dimpler -- nail size? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
> So there you go...Grip-Rite 6D Bright Common nails ($1.27 for a pound of
'em
> at Lowe's), grind the tip round, done deal.
Dag bernit...I mean "Grip Rite 6D Bright FINISH" nails...see what I mean?
8-)
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
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| Subject: | Re: some one from Van's |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Besing" <azpilot@extremezone.com>
They do answer tech support email, just not publicly. It is probably best
that way anyway, as to avoid a debate about which method is better, faster,
stronger, etc.
Van's tech folks are very responsive to email if you don't want to spend
your long distance bucks.
Paul Besing
RV-6A Sold (Waiting on RV-10)
http://www.lacodeworks.com/besing
Kitlog Builder's Log Software
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----- Original Message -----
From: " bert murillo" <bert6@mybluelight.com>
Subject: RV-List: some one from Van's
> --> RV-List message posted by: " bert murillo" <bert6@mybluelight.com>
>
> Hi:
>
> It is a shame that Scott Mcdaniels, does not
> participate to the list any more. He used to be
> a very valuable contributor to the list, for his
> knowledge, as a builder and as an employee of Van's.
>
> When asked a technical question about,construction
> of our Rv's,,he knew the answers to solve our problems...
>
> I guess, Van's does not allow any one to, be on the
> list, for reasons of Legal Liability????
>
> But I think it would be very convenient to us, if
> we could have one of the technical people from
> Van's, be on the Rv-list, so we could present our
> questions . Let's say that certain days, at certain
> time, one could then address, the question....
> It would save a lot of time, and money in long distance
> calls....
>
> Maybe there is a reason they dont do that..
>
>
> Bert
>
>
> Rv6a
> Canopy......
>
> Do Not archive
>
>
> Sign up for Internet Service under $10 dollars a month, at
http://isp.BlueLight.com
>
>
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| Subject: | some one from Van's |
--> RV-List message posted by: "James E. Clark" <james@nextupventures.com>
I can verify that they respond to email. I have been having a LONG dialog
via email on a particular matter.
Email is more convenient. Voice is better for realtime reaction and
response. In the current matter, I have used some of both with them.
Although this list is **VERY** popular, it could be one of MANY lists that
they would have to choose from. And as I said earlier, if they spent the
time some of us spend on the list, then the RV10 would not be flying. :-)
James
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Paul Besing
> Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 10:16 PM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV-List: some one from Van's
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Besing" <azpilot@extremezone.com>
>
> They do answer tech support email, just not publicly. It is probably best
> that way anyway, as to avoid a debate about which method is
> better, faster,
> stronger, etc.
>
> Van's tech folks are very responsive to email if you don't want to spend
> your long distance bucks.
>
> Paul Besing
> RV-6A Sold (Waiting on RV-10)
> http://www.lacodeworks.com/besing
> Kitlog Builder's Log Software
> http://www.kitlog.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: " bert murillo" <bert6@mybluelight.com>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV-List: some one from Van's
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: " bert murillo" <bert6@mybluelight.com>
> >
> > Hi:
> >
> > It is a shame that Scott Mcdaniels, does not
> > participate to the list any more. He used to be
> > a very valuable contributor to the list, for his
> > knowledge, as a builder and as an employee of Van's.
> >
> > When asked a technical question about,construction
> > of our Rv's,,he knew the answers to solve our problems...
> >
> > I guess, Van's does not allow any one to, be on the
> > list, for reasons of Legal Liability????
> >
> > But I think it would be very convenient to us, if
> > we could have one of the technical people from
> > Van's, be on the Rv-list, so we could present our
> > questions . Let's say that certain days, at certain
> > time, one could then address, the question....
> > It would save a lot of time, and money in long distance
> > calls....
> >
> > Maybe there is a reason they dont do that..
> >
> >
> > Bert
> >
> >
> > Rv6a
> > Canopy......
> >
> > Do Not archive
> >
> >
> > Sign up for Internet Service under $10 dollars a month, at
> http://isp.BlueLight.com
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: some one from Van's |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jim Oke <wjoke@shaw.ca>
I can say that I have had several prompt and helpful e-mail exchanges with
Vans tech support. Take a digital photo of the item of interest and attach
the .jpg to your message - this works very well. Doing it privately avoids
tech support getting into discussions of the "I did it this way instead, is
that OK too..." nature.
Jim Oke
RV-6A
Winnipeg, MB
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Besing" <azpilot@extremezone.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: some one from Van's
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Besing" <azpilot@extremezone.com>
>
> They do answer tech support email, just not publicly. It is probably best
> that way anyway, as to avoid a debate about which method is better,
faster,
> stronger, etc.
>
> Van's tech folks are very responsive to email if you don't want to spend
> your long distance bucks.
>
> Paul Besing
> RV-6A Sold (Waiting on RV-10)
> http://www.lacodeworks.com/besing
> Kitlog Builder's Log Software
> http://www.kitlog.com
>
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