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1. 02:40 AM - Re: Atitude Indicator Interference? ()
2. 04:54 AM - Van's Tachometer (Parker43rp@aol.com)
3. 06:20 AM - Re: Dynon D-10 (lucky macy)
4. 07:10 AM - Re: Van's Tachometer (Scott Brumbelow)
5. 07:15 AM - Re: Dynon D-10 (DJB6A@cs.com)
6. 07:17 AM - Re: Vans Oil Pressure Gauge (Scott Brumbelow)
7. 07:32 AM - Dynon D-10 IFR Advice (Brad Benson)
8. 07:54 AM - Re: Dynon D-10 (James E. Clark)
9. 08:54 AM - CD player..Kinda RV related (Louis Willig)
10. 09:06 AM - Re: Re: Rocket-List: passenger (John Starn)
11. 09:37 AM - Re: CD player..Kinda RV related (Robert Miller)
12. 09:43 AM - Re: Dynon D-10 (lucky macy)
13. 09:43 AM - Re: CD player..Kinda RV related (Jeff Dowling)
14. 09:53 AM - Re: CD player..Kinda RV related (Chris W)
15. 09:55 AM - Recommended RV camping gear? (SportAV8R@aol.com)
16. 09:57 AM - Re: Dynon D-10 IFR Advice (Jeff Point)
17. 10:08 AM - Re: Dynon D-10 IFR Advice (Dan Checkoway)
18. 10:15 AM - Re: CD player..Kinda RV related (Rob Prior)
19. 10:24 AM - Re: Recommended RV camping gear? (Kyle Boatright)
20. 10:30 AM - Re: Dynon D-10 (Jim Jewell)
21. 10:42 AM - This cracks me up! (Andy Karmy)
22. 10:48 AM - Interior Cable protection? (Andy Karmy)
23. 11:05 AM - Re: Interior Cable protection? (Jim Jewell)
24. 11:21 AM - Re: Recommended RV camping gear? (John Starn)
25. 12:27 PM - Re: This cracks me up! (David Carter)
26. 01:25 PM - Re: EAA- 25 pilots to Kitty Hawk (glenn.williams@businessacft.bombardier.com)
27. 01:59 PM - Re: Interior Cable protection? (chris m)
28. 02:06 PM - Re: This cracks me up! (George McNutt)
29. 02:15 PM - Re: CD player..Kinda RV related (Paul Besing)
30. 02:40 PM - Re: Interior Cable protection? (Jeff Point)
31. 02:42 PM - Wing tip mods (Mike Stephenson)
32. 03:25 PM - Why didn't you build a plastic airplane (Ernest Kells)
33. 03:50 PM - Re: This cracks me up! (Kyle Boatright)
34. 04:24 PM - AFP Boost Pump and Fuel Lines in RV-6 (Jordan Grant)
35. 04:30 PM - Re: Interior Cable protection? (Mike Stephenson)
36. 04:38 PM - Re: This cracks me up! (Mike Stephenson)
37. 04:45 PM - CHT & EGT guages. (Dana Overall)
38. 04:57 PM - Re: Wing tip mods (John Starn)
39. 05:03 PM - Re: CD player..Kinda RV related (Larry Bowen)
40. 05:10 PM - Re: AFP Boost Pump and Fuel Lines in RV-6 (Dan Checkoway)
41. 05:16 PM - Re: This cracks me up! (Alex Peterson)
42. 06:50 PM - Re: CD player..Kinda RV related (Paul Besing)
43. 07:29 PM - Re: This cracks me up! (Tom Lutgring)
44. 07:39 PM - Re: Recommended RV camping gear? (SportAV8R@aol.com)
45. 08:25 PM - Transition training - Northern NY? (Steve J Hurlbut)
46. 08:37 PM - Re: charging problem (Larygagnon@aol.com)
47. 08:38 PM - Re: EAA- 25 pilots to Kitty Hawk (kempthornes)
48. 08:39 PM - Re: NEW jABIRU 8 CYL ENGINE FLOWN IN rv6 (kempthornes)
49. 08:43 PM - Re: AFP Boost Pump and Fuel Lines in RV-6 (Gil Alexander)
50. 09:33 PM - Re: Interior Cable protection? (Don Diehl)
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Subject: | Re: Atitude Indicator Interference? |
--> RV-List message posted by: <315@cox.net>
Thanks to all who responded to my query on how to modify teh instrument
panel rib on my RV6A slider. Most everyone did the mod during construction
but I think I can accomplish something similar even though mine is already
flying.
Thanks again,
Ned
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kenneth Beene" <kbeene@citilink.com>
Subject: RE: RV-List: Atitude Indicator Interference?
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Kenneth Beene" <kbeene@citilink.com>
>
> >
> > I bought an RV6A that has a non standard instrument layout.
> > All the standard 6 are there just not in the normal
> > configuration. I was looking at remounting them in the
> > Standard config when I found that there is a longitudinal rib
> > on the back of the panel that prevents mounting the AI in the
> > top center hole. Anyone know how to work around this rib or
> > modify it?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ned
> >
> Ned,
> I don't know if you have a tip up or slider. The slider has a rib that
> will be in the way of the AI. It can be modified to make room but this
> would be difficult on a finished slider if the panel is riveted in
> place. I cut out much of the rib and used an 1/8 inch doubler to
> stiffen the remaining part. You can see the modified rib at
> http://www.mninter.net/~kbeene/building_finishing.html
>
> The instrument layout is shown at
> http://www.mninter.net/~kbeene/
>
> Good luck,
> Ken
>
>
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Subject: | Van's Tachometer |
--> RV-List message posted by: Parker43rp@aol.com
Listers: Thanks for the many replies to my inquiry on the mounting of Van's
tachometer. I mounted the tach generator with its 12in. cable on the firewall
using an angle bracket to match the natural angle of the generator at that
position on the firewall. I fastened the generator through a hole in the
bracket and held it in place with a thinned-down 5/8-18 nut.
Ray
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--> RV-List message posted by: "lucky macy" <luckymacy@hotmail.com>
Hi Jim,
Did you evaluate it against the IK-2000?
do not archive
>From: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net>
>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: RV-List: Dynon D-10
>Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 19:28:48 -0700
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net>
>
>Hi Paul,
>
>It is still $1995.00 USD for the foreseeable future. Worth every penny,
>get
>it with the on board back up battery $129.00 unless you have already got,
>or
>plan on a backup battery scheme incorporated into your system.
>With the internal battery you can turn it on as you pull it out of it's
>box.
>No biggy aside from having a hassle free getting familiar session right up
>front.
>
>Check out their site at Http://www.dynonavionics.com
>
>Jim in Kelowna
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Paul Besing" <azpilot@extremezone.com>
>To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: RV-List: Dynon D-10
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Besing" <azpilot@extremezone.com>
> >
> > What is the price?
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jeff Point" <jpoint@mindspring.com>
> > To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Re: RV-List: Dynon D-10
> >
> >
> > > --> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
> > >
> > > FWIW, Gillian told me that they have no plans to increase the price
> > > anytime soon, even for those who are not "locked in."
> > >
> > > Jeff Point
> > >
> > > Larry Bowen wrote:
> > >
> > > >--> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
> > > >
> > > >Yeah, I was on that list too. Not sure it makes a difference or not.
> > > >Maybe it was to protect against a price increase that never happed
> > > >(yet).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Van's Tachometer |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Brumbelow <csbrumbelow@fedex.com>
I had the same questions, and asked Vans about them. Per their instructions, I
did as George recommended to you. Vans suggested simply zip-tying the unit
(which I could do with the oil pressure line right there, but the bracket per
George's suggestion may be a better solution. The risk I see in zip tying is
that once the aircraft is flying, the vibration MAY allow the generator to
rotate around toward the firewall, and then eventually vibrate against it.
For what it's worth...
Scott in MEM
RV-8A baffles to go...
George McNutt wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "George McNutt" <gmcnutt@intergate.ca>
>
> ---
> Has anyone installed Van's tach with the 12in. extension cable? I have
> found that in the installation on my RV-8A, the cable with the tach
> generator
> attached is at least 4in. longer than the distance from the back of the
> engine to the firewall. A straight installation would put it 4in. into the
> front
> baggage compartment. Installation of the generator on the firewall would
> seem to
> require nearly a 90 degree bend in the cable, which in my opinion would
> probably cause premature cable failure. I am considering having the cable
> shortened at an auto shop that repairs speedometers.
>
> Hi Ray
>
> Agreed, poor setup and it will probably shorten life of inner cable. I did
> mount the generator on a bracker about an inch forward of firewall and with
> a 90 degree bend in cable. Kept the bend as gentle as possible over full
> length of cable. No problems so far in 150 hrs.
>
> George McNutt
> Langley B.C.
> 6A - 150 hrs
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: DJB6A@cs.com
Received my unit last week. They had said initially early April, when I
emailed them to confirm they said end of May. Seems like they are getting caught
up
on orders. The remote magnetometer is still to be shipped. If you are
concerned email them, they are very responsive.
I am glad I waited, it is a great piece of equipment.
Dave Burnham
6A Wiring/ Panel
Lincolnshire, IL
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Subject: | Re: Vans Oil Pressure Gauge |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Brumbelow <csbrumbelow@fedex.com>
Check yours specifically, but I have the same set up and mine is solidly grounded.
Scott in MEM
Neil Henderson wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Neil Henderson" <neil.mo51@btopenworld.com>
>
> My sender is mounted on the Van's Transducer Manifold. This is Anodized Alloy.
Not conducive to a good electrical connection. Possible problem?
>
> Neil Henderson RV9-A ( Firewall Foward ) Aylesbury UK
>
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Subject: | Dynon D-10 IFR Advice |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Brad Benson" <brad@cds-inc.com>
Hey All,
I'm just getting started on my instrument panel and am planning on putting in a
Dynon D-10. Since I am planning to be able to fly IFR I am thinking I will
use the D-10 to replace only the gyro compass and the attitude indicator, leaving
the rest of the six pack in place (altimeter, turn & bank, ASI, and VSI).
My question for the group is this: Does that seem reasonable? If the D-10 itself
fails, I still have the T&B to fly on (and I do practice partial panel !
:-). If the electrical system fails, the built-in battery backup of the D-10
will keep it going. My feeling is that it is at least as reliable as the suction
instruments (and associated systems) it is replacing.
Does that make sense?
Thanks!
Brad "Sharpie" Benson
RV6AQB underway...
"Please buy my software, it's funding my RV6A project!" - http://www.notamd.com
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--> RV-List message posted by: "James E. Clark" <james@nextupventures.com>
I am not Jim but I will give a short response here ...
The IK-2000 is focussed *primarily* on supplying "engine information"
(temps, rpm etc/)whereas
the D-10 is focussed *primarily* on "flight information" (attitude,
altitude, airspeed, heading).
One could easily have both as they primarily serve *different* functions.
James
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of lucky macy
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 9:16 AM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Dynon D-10
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "lucky macy" <luckymacy@hotmail.com>
>
> Hi Jim,
>
> Did you evaluate it against the IK-2000?
>
>
> do not archive
>
> >From: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net>
> >Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
> >To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: Re: RV-List: Dynon D-10
> >Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 19:28:48 -0700
> >
> >--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net>
> >
> >Hi Paul,
> >
> >It is still $1995.00 USD for the foreseeable future. Worth every penny,
> >get
> >it with the on board back up battery $129.00 unless you have
> already got,
> >or
> >plan on a backup battery scheme incorporated into your system.
> >With the internal battery you can turn it on as you pull it out of it's
> >box.
> >No biggy aside from having a hassle free getting familiar
> session right up
> >front.
> >
> >Check out their site at Http://www.dynonavionics.com
> >
> >Jim in Kelowna
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Paul Besing" <azpilot@extremezone.com>
> >To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: Re: RV-List: Dynon D-10
> >
> >
> > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Besing" <azpilot@extremezone.com>
> > >
> > > What is the price?
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Jeff Point" <jpoint@mindspring.com>
> > > To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> > > Subject: Re: RV-List: Dynon D-10
> > >
> > >
> > > > --> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
> > > >
> > > > FWIW, Gillian told me that they have no plans to increase the price
> > > > anytime soon, even for those who are not "locked in."
> > > >
> > > > Jeff Point
> > > >
> > > > Larry Bowen wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >--> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
> > > > >
> > > > >Yeah, I was on that list too. Not sure it makes a
> difference or not.
> > > > >Maybe it was to protect against a price increase that never happed
> > > > >(yet).
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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Subject: | CD player..Kinda RV related |
--> RV-List message posted by: Louis Willig <larywil@comcast.net>
I carry a portable CD player in my RV-4 that is rated as Hi G-resistant to
jolts ( I guess its designed for Joggers). Sometimes the machine skips or
just stops. I have recently seen scratches in the form of uniform swirls on
the outer 1/2 inch of the disk. Now some of the tracks show permanent
damage when inserted in my home CD player. Am I destroying my CD's? Do any
of the CD restorer products work?
-
Louis I Willig
1640 Oakwood Dr.
Penn Valley, PA 19072
610 668-4964
RV-4, N180PF
190HP IO-360, C/S prop
310 exciting Hrs.
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Subject: | Re: Rocket-List: passenger |
--> RV-List message posted by: "John Starn" <jhstarn@earthlink.net>
Having just flown in the SNJ at APV I can tell you that it's light on the
controls, Jim did reduce power as Tom approched for photos. Would not want
to instruct from the backseat however as you can't see s--- forward. We came
over the fence at 75, rotated to flare at 65 and touched down will under the
60 mark, rock steady on roll out, just like the HRII. Handles like a giant
yellow RV. KABONG (GBA)
----- Original Message -----
From: "RV6 Flyer" <rv6_flyer@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Rocket-List: passenger
> --> RV-List message posted by: "RV6 Flyer" <rv6_flyer@hotmail.com>
>
> Tom:
>
> The RV Flight was glad to particapate at the Air Fair. Maybe next year we
> will have an Large RV and Pitts formation for you. Paul and I talked with
> Jason when they were getting ready to leave.
>
> Sounds like you should have introduced me to the young lady pilot.
>
> Even my very slow 160 HP RV-6 can keep up with a T-6 / SNJ. The only
place
> that the T-6 / SNJ out performs the low HP RVs is on the down line as they
> have a Vne of 260 mph compared to the 210 mph RV. They also will out do
the
> RV at the fuel pump taking on a LOT more gas they we use for the same
> mission. At the Cable Air Fair, ATC told us (RV Flight) to follow the T-6
> flight. They were 3 miles ahead of us and we caught them on downwind.
We
> cut them off on the inside of the turn to catch them but they could not
lose
> us after we were at their 6.
>
> Gary A. Sobek
> "My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell,
> 1,285 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA
> http://SoCAL_WVAF.rvproject.com
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: "Tom Gummo" <t.gummo@verizon.net>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV-List: Re: Rocket-List: passenger
> Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 07:49:00 -0700
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Tom Gummo" <t.gummo@verizon.net>
>
> Tom,
>
> I too had a interesting passenger yesterday. We are having a small air
fair
> at my local airport, APV, and have several CAF aircraft on display. A
SNJ,
> Navy version of the AT-6, arrived a day early to give some promotional
> rides. One of the high rollers cancelled and my building partner Jack, or
> KABONG, as he like to call himself got to take his place. I asked the
pilot
> if he would mind if I flew a little formation with him to get a couple of
> pictures. Anyway, besides the pilot a lady crew chief came along and as a
> joke I asked her if she wanted to come along, she did. At first, she
didn't
> believe that I could keep up with the SNJ.
>
> I let the SNJ get completely airborne before I took the runway. After my
> normal TO, at the end of the runway, the rocket was already several
hundred
> feet above the SNJ and about a 1/2 mile back. The rocket quickly closed
the
> gap and I was able to fly formation for a couple of minutes on the SNJ.
> Once the photos were taken, we departed the formation and I decided to
show
> her the plane. I did a couple of aileron rolls to check out her system (I
> don't try to get people sick) and she was doing nice. Next she asked to
do
> a loop. So, I showed her one. Then she asked if she could do one. I
said
> OK but that I would be guarding the stick to make sure things don't go
> wrong. Of course, she didn't pull hard enough at the start of the loop
and
> we got a little slow at the top. At the top, the plane stalled and did
that
> little shake it does under those conditions. I helped her recover and
> finished the loop. While this was happening, she said that both she and
the
> plane had just had an orgasm.
>
> She is a nurse, a pilot, a CAF member, not bad looking, and single. She
is
> even thinking about getting a RV after the ride.
>
> Tom Gummo
> Apple Valley, CA
> Air Boss for today's Air Fair
> Come and see us.
>
>
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Subject: | Re: CD player..Kinda RV related |
--> RV-List message posted by: Robert Miller <rmiller3@earthlink.net>
Solution:
You can download your ENTIRE collection of CD's to an Apple iPod.
Sort it any way you wish. Easily.
Manage things more fully on either your PC or Mac (works fine with either).
Sounds great. Beautifully engineered.
Then leave your valuable CD collection at home.
And also works, to a large degree, as an information manager.... (possibly
alleviating your need for a Palm Pilot, at least for addresses, contacts,
etc.)
Geee .... Apple should hire me.
Well, I guess I just really think my iPod does what it does very very well.
Regards,
Robert
Louis Willig wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Louis Willig <larywil@comcast.net>
>
> I carry a portable CD player in my RV-4 that is rated as Hi G-resistant to
> jolts ( I guess its designed for Joggers). Sometimes the machine skips or
> just stops. I have recently seen scratches in the form of uniform swirls on
> the outer 1/2 inch of the disk. Now some of the tracks show permanent
> damage when inserted in my home CD player. Am I destroying my CD's? Do any
> of the CD restorer products work?
>
> -
> Louis I Willig
> 1640 Oakwood Dr.
> Penn Valley, PA 19072
> 610 668-4964
> RV-4, N180PF
> 190HP IO-360, C/S prop
> 310 exciting Hrs.
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "lucky macy" <luckymacy@hotmail.com>
yeah, sorry! When I read this the firs time what popped to mind was that
large flat panel display engine monitoring system Van's has been selling in
their catalogue for a while now. Not the D-10 :-)
>From: "James E. Clark" <james@nextupventures.com>
>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: RV-List: Dynon D-10
>Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 10:52:05 -0400
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "James E. Clark" <james@nextupventures.com>
>
>I am not Jim but I will give a short response here ...
>
>The IK-2000 is focussed *primarily* on supplying "engine information"
>(temps, rpm etc/)whereas
>the D-10 is focussed *primarily* on "flight information" (attitude,
>altitude, airspeed, heading).
>
>One could easily have both as they primarily serve *different* functions.
>
>James
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of lucky macy
> > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 9:16 AM
> > To: rv-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: RV-List: Dynon D-10
> >
> >
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "lucky macy" <luckymacy@hotmail.com>
> >
> > Hi Jim,
> >
> > Did you evaluate it against the IK-2000?
> >
> >
> > do not archive
> >
> > >From: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net>
> > >Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
> > >To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> > >Subject: Re: RV-List: Dynon D-10
> > >Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 19:28:48 -0700
> > >
> > >--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net>
> > >
> > >Hi Paul,
> > >
> > >It is still $1995.00 USD for the foreseeable future. Worth every penny,
> > >get
> > >it with the on board back up battery $129.00 unless you have
> > already got,
> > >or
> > >plan on a backup battery scheme incorporated into your system.
> > >With the internal battery you can turn it on as you pull it out of it's
> > >box.
> > >No biggy aside from having a hassle free getting familiar
> > session right up
> > >front.
> > >
> > >Check out their site at Http://www.dynonavionics.com
> > >
> > >Jim in Kelowna
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Paul Besing" <azpilot@extremezone.com>
> > >To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> > >Subject: Re: RV-List: Dynon D-10
> > >
> > >
> > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Besing"
><azpilot@extremezone.com>
> > > >
> > > > What is the price?
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Jeff Point" <jpoint@mindspring.com>
> > > > To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: RV-List: Dynon D-10
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > FWIW, Gillian told me that they have no plans to increase the
>price
> > > > > anytime soon, even for those who are not "locked in."
> > > > >
> > > > > Jeff Point
> > > > >
> > > > > Larry Bowen wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >--> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
><Larry@bowenaero.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Yeah, I was on that list too. Not sure it makes a
> > difference or not.
> > > > > >Maybe it was to protect against a price increase that never
>happed
> > > > > >(yet).
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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Subject: | Re: CD player..Kinda RV related |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling@earthlink.net>
I know this doesnt answer your question but have you considered a
jukebox/mp3 player. All of your music in one hand held device that will
plug in just like your cd player.
Jeff Dowling
6a
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Subject: | Re: CD player..Kinda RV related |
--> RV-List message posted by: Chris W <chrisw3@cox.net>
Louis Willig wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Louis Willig <larywil@comcast.net>
>
> I carry a portable CD player in my RV-4 that is rated as Hi G-resistant to
> jolts ( I guess its designed for Joggers). Sometimes the machine skips or
> just stops. I have recently seen scratches in the form of uniform swirls on
> the outer 1/2 inch of the disk. Now some of the tracks show permanent
> damage when inserted in my home CD player. Am I destroying my CD's? Do any
> of the CD restorer products work?
Friends of mine have had good results with the CD polishers to get the
scratches out. However I have a better solution to your problem, actually
two. The first is to record the songs you like from all your CD's to your
computer as MP3's then record them back as standard audio CD's or as MP3's (you
will need to get a portable CD player that will play MP3's if you go that
route, they aren't very expensive any more, $100 or less) then take the
recorded CD's with you in the plane. Eventually the high use and vibration in
a plane is going to get to a CD and when it does just toss it and record it
again. Blank CD's are cheap and you can record a lot more songs (80 min) than
come on the typical CD (about 45 min). If you use MP3's you can get over 10
hours on a CD. All my CD's stay in a box in my closet and I just play the ones
I have recorded, since I only record the songs I like, I don't have to skip
past any songs I don't like. The other solution would be to get a portable
memory based MP3 player. Memory cards are cheap enough now that you can store
several hours of MP3's on one. With no moving parts you will never hear a skip
again.
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--
Chris Woodhouse
3147 SW 127th St.
Oklahoma City, OK 73170
405-691-5206
chrisw@programmer.net
N35 20.492'
W97 34.342'
"They that can give up essential liberty
to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Historical Review of Pennsylvania
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Subject: | Recommended RV camping gear? |
--> RV-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com
I think my wife and I are nearing the point of getting adventurous in our old
age and thinking about how cool it might be to actually travel a bit in our
RV to places where a rental car was not the first necessity upon arrival.
Camping with the plane sounds like a way to recover some of our lost
youthfulness... but so much has changed since we camped as kids or as young parents
in the
80's. Would those of you who are now adventuring in this way give us a heads
up on some of the new hi-tech gear we should be shopping for? Obviously it
has to be able to fit in a -6A, so the lighter and smaller, the better. We are
also into comfort, so I would especially cherish any advice on good sleeping
gear and shelter.
Bill B
at almost 47, not quite the Tom Sawyer / Huck Finn type I once was...
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Subject: | Re: Dynon D-10 IFR Advice |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
That sounds reasonable to me. I am doing a similar panel, but with 2
1/2 inch gauges for the backups, and no VSI. I think you are on the
right track to say that the EFIS is at least as reliable as the vacuum
gyro system. With regards to an "electric system failure" I suggest
that you buy Electric Bob's book before you start wiring, and you'll
realize that with a properly designed electrical system, "total electric
failure" is up there with "wing just falling off" in terms of probability.
Jeff Point
RV-6 FWF
Milwaukee WI
Brad Benson wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Brad Benson" <brad@cds-inc.com>
>
>Hey All,
>
>I'm just getting started on my instrument panel and am planning on putting in
a Dynon D-10. Since I am planning to be able to fly IFR I am thinking I will
use the D-10 to replace only the gyro compass and the attitude indicator, leaving
the rest of the six pack in place (altimeter, turn & bank, ASI, and VSI).
>
>My question for the group is this: Does that seem reasonable? If the D-10 itself
fails, I still have the T&B to fly on (and I do practice partial panel !
:-). If the electrical system fails, the built-in battery backup of the D-10
will keep it going. My feeling is that it is at least as reliable as the
suction instruments (and associated systems) it is replacing.
>
>Does that make sense?
>
>Thanks!
>Brad "Sharpie" Benson
>RV6AQB underway...
>"Please buy my software, it's funding my RV6A project!" - http://www.notamd.com
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Dynon D-10 IFR Advice |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
That's *exactly* what I'm doing. I added a vertical card compass to the mix
as well, so that I'll always have a heading reference regardless of the
state of everything else.
And when all else fails, a Garmin 196 seems to be a good last resort
fallback.
Just say no to moving parts... 8-)
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)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brad Benson" <brad@cds-inc.com>
Subject: RV-List: Dynon D-10 IFR Advice
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Brad Benson" <brad@cds-inc.com>
>
> Hey All,
>
> I'm just getting started on my instrument panel and am planning on putting
in a Dynon D-10. Since I am planning to be able to fly IFR I am thinking I
will use the D-10 to replace only the gyro compass and the attitude
indicator, leaving the rest of the six pack in place (altimeter, turn &
bank, ASI, and VSI).
>
> My question for the group is this: Does that seem reasonable? If the
D-10 itself fails, I still have the T&B to fly on (and I do practice partial
panel ! :-). If the electrical system fails, the built-in battery backup
of the D-10 will keep it going. My feeling is that it is at least as
reliable as the suction instruments (and associated systems) it is
replacing.
>
> Does that make sense?
>
> Thanks!
> Brad "Sharpie" Benson
> RV6AQB underway...
> "Please buy my software, it's funding my RV6A project!" -
http://www.notamd.com
>
>
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Subject: | Re: CD player..Kinda RV related |
--> RV-List message posted by: Rob Prior <rv7@b4.ca>
Robert Miller wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Robert Miller <rmiller3@earthlink.net>
>
> You can download your ENTIRE collection of CD's to an Apple iPod.
> Sort it any way you wish. Easily.
> Manage things more fully on either your PC or Mac (works fine with either).
> Sounds great. Beautifully engineered.
> Then leave your valuable CD collection at home.
> And also works, to a large degree, as an information manager.... (possibly
> alleviating your need for a Palm Pilot, at least for addresses, contacts,
> etc.)
Solution #2: Archos Jukebox Multimedia (www.archos.com)
Archos makes a few different models of the Multimedia Jukebox, that have
some additional features over the iPod, at the same price points. My
JBMM 20 (20GB of storage) has a 1.5" Color LCD, and can play back MP3's
as well as Pictures and AVI movies. It also comes with a Compact Flash
adapter that allows you to download the pictures from your digital
camera when the card gets full, a 1.3MP camera module that lets you
record stills and AVI movies (with sound) straight to the HD, USB 2.0,
Firewire optional, and AV cable to connect to your home stereo/VCR.
Not to put anything down on the iPod, it's a beautiful device. It's a
little smaller and lighter than the JBMM, has a nicer user interface,
and Apple's strong brand and service organization. But the JBMM does a
fair bit more for about the same amount of money.
(Disclaimer: I work for neither Archos nor Apple. I'm just a happy
Archos owner.)
-Rob
>>--> RV-List message posted by: Louis Willig <larywil@comcast.net>
>>
>>I carry a portable CD player in my RV-4 that is rated as Hi G-resistant to
>>jolts ( I guess its designed for Joggers). Sometimes the machine skips or
>>just stops. I have recently seen scratches in the form of uniform swirls on
>>the outer 1/2 inch of the disk. Now some of the tracks show permanent
>>damage when inserted in my home CD player. Am I destroying my CD's? Do any
>>of the CD restorer products work?
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Subject: | Re: Recommended RV camping gear? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright" <kyle.boatright@adelphia.net>
I camp at each Oshkosh and SnF. I carry enough stuff for myself and a
buddy, and we camp fairly comfortably. My "starter" set includes the
following:
1) Therm-a-rest self-inflating camp pads. Get the wide, long, thick ones.
You'll be glad you did. They are very comfortable, relatively light weight,
and take up much less space than foam pads. Here's mine:
http://www.rei.com/online/store/ProductDisplay?productId=9130173&storeId=800
0&catalogId=40000008000&langId=-1
2) Unless the weather is COLD, I don't bring a sleeping bag. Instead, I
carry a pair of old top sheets from a single bed and a fleece blanket.
Easier to modulate the amount of insulation you need, and packs better too.
3) A lightweight 2-3 person tent. Currently, I'm using a two person tent
which has an exterior vestibule where I can store stuff. It was ~$100 from
Galyans. A three person tent is MUCH larger inside and you can have your
clothes and food in the tent with you if you're not camping immediately
beside your flying storage unit... Of course, the three person tent is much
heavier. I couldn't find the one I have on-line, but here's a link to a
similar tent from REI:
http://www.rei.com/online/store/ProductDisplay?productId=47592792&storeId=80
00&catalogId=40000008000&langId=-1
4) A flexible cooler. Nice for keeping a dozen drinks and some sandwich
meat cool. Also doubles as a backup carry-bag for the trip home when you've
consumed all the consumables, but bought three t-shirts, a book, and a
thingamajig that don't fit in your bags...
Beyond that, get a good light. Coleman makes a nice battery powered
lantern. Good for in-tent reading at night. Also, it will light up a fair
sized campsite.
KB
----- Original Message -----
From: <SportAV8R@aol.com>
Subject: RV-List: Recommended RV camping gear?
> --> RV-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com
>
> I think my wife and I are nearing the point of getting adventurous in our
old
> age and thinking about how cool it might be to actually travel a bit in
our
> RV to places where a rental car was not the first necessity upon arrival.
> Camping with the plane sounds like a way to recover some of our lost
> youthfulness... but so much has changed since we camped as kids or as
young parents in the
> 80's. Would those of you who are now adventuring in this way give us a
heads
> up on some of the new hi-tech gear we should be shopping for? Obviously
it
> has to be able to fit in a -6A, so the lighter and smaller, the better.
We are
> also into comfort, so I would especially cherish any advice on good
sleeping
> gear and shelter.
>
> Bill B
> at almost 47, not quite the Tom Sawyer / Huck Finn type I once was...
>
> do not archive
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net>
Hi Lucky,
The Dynon D-10 is an electronic flight information system (EFIS).
I bought and built the two Rocky Mountain Instruments (RMI) their "uEncoder"
and "uMonitor" a while back. Aside from the many other features it offers, I
intend to use the uEncoder as a digital back up for Heading, Airspeed, VSI
etc.. I also have a separate altitude and airspeed gages on the panel, So I
guess I have both beltand suspenders and also my Wellys (gum boots). (g-)!
The RMI uMonitor will be used for digital engine monitoring. the IK-2000
came out quite a while after I chose the RMI equipment.
So far I am satisfied with and like the RMI products and I highly recommend
Ron and company any time. Their products work as described and they are very
pleasant helpful people. Things ordered and or sent in for repairs (owner
damaged in my case) or warranty are very promptly returned.
Good product, Good service, good backing, great people!! Happy customers are
made of this!
Opinion:
I like the idea of full engine monitoring, graphic or digital, your choice.
I also know that many aircraft have flown without the aid of such modern
things as electrical systems etc.. None the less, Information provided and
used correctly in a timely fashion offers the opportunity to have more time
for other things such as looking out for what is coming at us {;-)!
The IK-2000 looks good and if it lives up to expectations will do well in
the instrumentation market.
Hmmm I've got room on the panel still....?!!.....Nah, Enough already!
Jim in Kelowna
----- Original Message -----
From: "lucky macy" <luckymacy@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Dynon D-10
> --> RV-List message posted by: "lucky macy" <luckymacy@hotmail.com>
>
> Hi Jim,
>
> Did you evaluate it against the IK-2000?
>
>
> do not archive
>
> >From: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net>
> >Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
> >To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: Re: RV-List: Dynon D-10
> >Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 19:28:48 -0700
> >
> >--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net>
> >
> >Hi Paul,
> >
> >It is still $1995.00 USD for the foreseeable future. Worth every penny,
> >get
> >it with the on board back up battery $129.00 unless you have already got,
> >or
> >plan on a backup battery scheme incorporated into your system.
> >With the internal battery you can turn it on as you pull it out of it's
> >box.
> >No biggy aside from having a hassle free getting familiar session right
up
> >front.
> >
> >Check out their site at Http://www.dynonavionics.com
> >
> >Jim in Kelowna
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Paul Besing" <azpilot@extremezone.com>
> >To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: Re: RV-List: Dynon D-10
> >
> >
> > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Besing" <azpilot@extremezone.com>
> > >
> > > What is the price?
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Jeff Point" <jpoint@mindspring.com>
> > > To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> > > Subject: Re: RV-List: Dynon D-10
> > >
> > >
> > > > --> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
> > > >
> > > > FWIW, Gillian told me that they have no plans to increase the price
> > > > anytime soon, even for those who are not "locked in."
> > > >
> > > > Jeff Point
> > > >
> > > > Larry Bowen wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >--> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
> > > > >
> > > > >Yeah, I was on that list too. Not sure it makes a difference or
not.
> > > > >Maybe it was to protect against a price increase that never happed
> > > > >(yet).
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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Subject: | This cracks me up! |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Andy Karmy" <andy@karmy.com>
FYI... here's what I have been up to recently...
http://www.karmy.com/rv9a/pictures/cracks/cracks.htm
- Andy (85hrs TT)
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Subject: | Interior Cable protection? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Andy Karmy" <andy@karmy.com>
What ideas have some of the rest of you used to cover the section of rudder cable
that runs beside the seats? Is there a good way to hide it behind a panel so
that it will stay out of the way of passenger seat belts etc? Seems like it's
a bit too far away from the wall to simply put a flat interior panel over it.
- Andy Karmy
RV9A Seattle WA
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Subject: | Re: Interior Cable protection? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net>
Hi Andy,
You could run a length of PVC or Vinyl tubing between the formers for the
cable to lay or run inside of.
Jim in Kelowna
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andy Karmy" <andy@karmy.com>
Subject: RV-List: Interior Cable protection?
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Andy Karmy" <andy@karmy.com>
>
> What ideas have some of the rest of you used to cover the section of
rudder cable that runs beside the seats? Is there a good way to hide it
behind a panel so that it will stay out of the way of passenger seat belts
etc? Seems like it's a bit too far away from the wall to simply put a flat
interior panel over it.
>
> - Andy Karmy
> RV9A Seattle WA
> Do Not Archive
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Recommended RV camping gear? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "John Starn" <jhstarn@earthlink.net>
I assume you have the wing tip mod. for extra storage. A two person tent
fits into one tip with room left over. Jackets and other light but bulkly
items into the other. If not get a hold of me off-list and I'll send you
some photos, etc. of same. KABONG (GBA) HRII N561FS
----- Original Message -----
From: <SportAV8R@aol.com>
Subject: RV-List: Recommended RV camping gear?
> --> RV-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com
>
> I think my wife and I are nearing the point of getting adventurous in our
old
> age and thinking about how cool it might be to actually travel a bit in
our
> RV to places where a rental car was not the first necessity upon arrival.
> Camping with the plane sounds like a way to recover some of our lost
> youthfulness... but so much has changed since we camped as kids or as
young parents in the
> 80's. Would those of you who are now adventuring in this way give us a
heads
> up on some of the new hi-tech gear we should be shopping for? Obviously
it
> has to be able to fit in a -6A, so the lighter and smaller, the better.
We are
> also into comfort, so I would especially cherish any advice on good
sleeping
> gear and shelter.
>
> Bill B
> at almost 47, not quite the Tom Sawyer / Huck Finn type I once was...
>
> do not archive
>
>
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Subject: | Re: This cracks me up! |
--> RV-List message posted by: "David Carter" <dcarter@datarecall.net>
Looks like your dimples are too deep, which could be a factor in creating
"extra" stress. Also, by the sharp edges of flush rivets being down inside
the dimple, there could be some "sharp edge stress/wear" going on.
David
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andy Karmy" <andy@karmy.com>
Subject: RV-List: This cracks me up!
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Andy Karmy" <andy@karmy.com>
>
> FYI... here's what I have been up to recently...
>
> http://www.karmy.com/rv9a/pictures/cracks/cracks.htm
>
> - Andy (85hrs TT)
>
>
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Subject: | Re: EAA- 25 pilots to Kitty Hawk |
06/09/2003 02:51:44 PM
--> RV-List message posted by: glenn.williams@businessacft.bombardier.com
I have been noticing for the past several years that the EAA has gotton big
into sponsorship programs for themselves and are starting to be so big that
they are forgetting about the "homebuilders" If you go to Oshkosh look at
all the pepsi and john deere ads.
Just my thoughts
Glenn Williams
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Subject: | Re: Interior Cable protection? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "chris m" <vhmum@bigpond.com>
Andy you realy dont need anything there. If your taking a non pilot for a
ride strap them in so they dont get tangledin the cable. Other than that it
is a non issue. Remember the more stuff you put in the more weight you
have...and it does add up.
Only my thoughts.
Chris and Susie 156hours
VH-MUM
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andy Karmy" <andy@karmy.com>
Subject: RV-List: Interior Cable protection?
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Andy Karmy" <andy@karmy.com>
>
> What ideas have some of the rest of you used to cover the section of
rudder cable that runs beside the seats? Is there a good way to hide it
behind a panel so that it will stay out of the way of passenger seat belts
etc? Seems like it's a bit too far away from the wall to simply put a flat
interior panel over it.
>
> - Andy Karmy
> RV9A Seattle WA
> Do Not Archive
>
>
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Subject: | This cracks me up! |
--> RV-List message posted by: "George McNutt" <gmcnutt@intergate.ca>
--> RV-List message posted by: "Andy Karmy" <andy@karmy.com>
FYI... here's what I have been up to recently...
http://www.karmy.com/rv9a/pictures/cracks/cracks.htm
- Andy (85hrs TT)
Hi Andy
Not sure this can be done, but after looking at the pictures I thought if it
was my aircraft I would experiment and use a small hypodermic (sp) needle to
inject some expanding foam insulation through the stop drill holes to try
and bond both sides of the skin together and prevent oil canning or any
tuning fork type vibrations.
No cracks at 150 hrs on my .016 skins but I have one rivet at the aft end of
my rudder that seems loose, I applied Locktite studlocker and it seems to be
holding it secure. (studlocker took paint off)
Good luck,
George McNutt
Langley, B.C.
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Subject: | Re: CD player..Kinda RV related |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Besing" <azpilot@extremezone.com>
The MP3 players are the way to go. No skipping, easy to use, customized
playlists, etc. Plus, the title of all the songs appear on the LCD screen,
so you can scroll though all of the songs to the one you want without
listening to the beginning of each or looking at a legend that you put on
the CD or CD case.
Can't beat the price nowadays. I got the portable one so I could use it
while exercising, flying in other airplanes, etc. I have 128MB model that
has an additional capabilty of 128MB. 256MB total gives you several hours
of music without changing CD's.
Paul Besing
RV-6A Sold (Waiting on RV-10)
http://www.lacodeworks.com/besing
Kitlog Builder's Log Software
http://www.kitlog.com
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Subject: | Re: Interior Cable protection? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
Check any boat store, they sell a vinyl split tubing (usually in white)
used to cover the lines on boats. Very light, cheap (about $2 for a 6
foot length) and improves the looks. For this price tear it off and
replace it during each annual, to inspect the cables.
Jeff Point
RV-6 FWF
Milwaukee WI
Andy Karmy wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Andy Karmy" <andy@karmy.com>
>
>What ideas have some of the rest of you used to cover the section of rudder cable
that runs beside the seats? Is there a good way to hide it behind a panel
so that it will stay out of the way of passenger seat belts etc? Seems like it's
a bit too far away from the wall to simply put a flat interior panel over it.
>
>- Andy Karmy
> RV9A Seattle WA
> Do Not Archive
>
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Stephenson" <mike@proclaimweb.com>
Could you provide a link or other reference to these wing tip mods/
Thank You
Mike Stephenson
Lubbock, TX
RV-6A (about 1/2 way)
> I assume you have the wing tip mod. for extra storage. A two person tent
> fits into one tip with room left over. Jackets and other light but bulkly
> items into the other. If not get a hold of me off-list and I'll send you
> some photos, etc. of same. KABONG (GBA) HRII N561FS
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Subject: | Why didn't you build a plastic airplane |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ernest Kells" <ernest.kells@sympatico.ca>
For those of you on the List still second guessing about building that slick
plastic plane should read the following post on the Aerolectric List.
NOTE: This question is only about using plastic ties ! ! !
The question:
> I'm building a fiberglass airplane. I'd like to use cable ties to hold
most
> of the wire. What is everyone using for cable tie mounts? Lanciar uses
> click-bond at $1.65 each. Panduit has some for 90 cents each. Both
appear
> easy to install but expensive.
One of the simple answers:
>> The stick on type just don't hold up. I remove the adhesive from the
back, drill several small holes around the edge of the base, then 5 minute
epoxy them in place with a strip of duct tape over them to hold in place.
Without the small holes to give some tooth for the epoxy they can pull off
since the epoxy does not bond well to the plastic. <<
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Subject: | Re: This cracks me up! |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright" <kyle.boatright@adelphia.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andy Karmy" <andy@karmy.com>
Subject: RV-List: This cracks me up!
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Andy Karmy" <andy@karmy.com>
>
> FYI... here's what I have been up to recently...
>
> http://www.karmy.com/rv9a/pictures/cracks/cracks.htm
>
> - Andy (85hrs TT)
>
>
Andy,
Did you deburr your rivet holes?
Enquiring minds and all that...
KB
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Subject: | AFP Boost Pump and Fuel Lines in RV-6 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jordan Grant" <jgrant@sw.rr.com>
The RV-6/A builders out there:
I am pondering my Airflow Performance boost pump installation and
fuel line routing for my RV-6. Can some of you that have done this
alreay give me a short description of what you did? A search of the
archives yielded some info, but not a clear answer on a good way to do
this.
My working theory right now is to adapt the high-pressure boost pump
mounting stuff that Van's makes for the RV-7. I'm not sure how this will
work because of the differences in the RV-7's wing spar carrythrough
bulkhead design. Has anyone out there made this work in the RV-6?
Thanks,
Jordan Grant
Working on panel and thinking about fuel lines
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Subject: | Re: Interior Cable protection? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Stephenson" <mike@proclaimweb.com>
Several of the RV's around Lubbock have covered the rudder cable with a
white plastic tube that is sold by boating companies. It is slit long wise
and fits the cable. It moves with the cable. It keeps from wearing the
uphostery.
Mike Stephenson
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Subject: | Re: This cracks me up! |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Stephenson" <mike@proclaimweb.com>
I talked to Ken at Van's 3 days ago on this topic. He says DO NOT USE
EXPANDING FOAM. It will trap moisture and cause corrosion and when sitting
in the sun, will begin expanding again until the rudder is round. He
actually did it on a rudder on another brand of kitplane. He is not guessing
about the outcome. DO NOT USE EXPANDING FOAM !
I got to thinking later, and wished I had asked Ken, why not fill the rudder
full of the Styrofoam peanuts you use to package items for shipping? No
weight, no vibration and costs about 2 cents. :)
Mike Stephenson
> Not sure this can be done, but after looking at the pictures I thought if
it
> was my aircraft I would experiment and use a small hypodermic (sp) needle
to
> inject some expanding foam insulation through the stop drill holes to try
> and bond both sides of the skin together and prevent oil canning or any
> tuning fork type vibrations.
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Subject: | CHT & EGT guages. |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
I'm making up my big money list in preparation to drop a load.............of
money, course I might drop the other kind of load when I write the check
very shortly, and have a question for the list.
My panel will have a Dynon unit along with TC, VSI, AI, ALT and Verital card
compass. I've decided to forgo the nice wiz bang engine monitering systems
in leiu of simple guages for MP, OP, OT and CHT, EGT. I'll use the money
saved to buy my Tru Track. I'm putting in a Garmin GNC 300XL approach
certified GPS/COM unless I can find a used 430. I want to view all four
CHTs and EGTs at the same time. I don't want to use a switch and only one
head for each EGT & CHT. Has anyone used the Westach Quad guages for EGT
and CHT? If so, how do you like them. If you are doing something somewhat
the same........but different, what did you use?
Anyone know of a good source for used approach certified GPS/COMs. I'd just
like to kill two birds with one stone and am familiar with the Garmin 300XL
as I have that installed in my Bonanza.
Dana Overall
Richmond, KY
RV-7 slider/fuselage
http://rvflying.tripod.com
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Subject: | Re: Wing tip mods |
--> RV-List message posted by: "John Starn" <jhstarn@earthlink.net>
My digital camera is junk. Will take some detailed photos, maybe a drawing,
go to Costco and get them developed on a disk. Will forward them as soon as
possible. Do Not Archive KABONG (GBA)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Stephenson" <mike@proclaimweb.com>
Subject: RV-List: Wing tip mods
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Stephenson" <mike@proclaimweb.com>
>
> Could you provide a link or other reference to these wing tip mods/
>
> Thank You
> Mike Stephenson
> Lubbock, TX
> RV-6A (about 1/2 way)
>
> > I assume you have the wing tip mod. for extra storage. A two person tent
> > fits into one tip with room left over. Jackets and other light but
bulkly
> > items into the other. If not get a hold of me off-list and I'll send you
> > some photos, etc. of same. KABONG (GBA) HRII N561FS
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Subject: | CD player..Kinda RV related |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
Which one do you have? I like the few that have the MP3 and FM
capability. I think Nomad is one brand. Should these be able to plug
into an intercom directly or will an amp or something be needed?
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
2003 - The year of flight!
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Besing
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 5:12 PM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV-List: CD player..Kinda RV related
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Besing" <azpilot@extremezone.com>
>
> The MP3 players are the way to go. No skipping, easy to use,
> customized playlists, etc. Plus, the title of all the songs
> appear on the LCD screen, so you can scroll though all of the
> songs to the one you want without listening to the beginning
> of each or looking at a legend that you put on the CD or CD case.
>
> Can't beat the price nowadays. I got the portable one so I
> could use it while exercising, flying in other airplanes,
> etc. I have 128MB model that has an additional capabilty of
> 128MB. 256MB total gives you several hours of music without
> changing CD's.
>
> Paul Besing
> RV-6A Sold (Waiting on RV-10)
> http://www.lacodeworks.com/besing
> Kitlog Builder's Log Software
> http://www.kitlog.com
>
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Subject: | Re: AFP Boost Pump and Fuel Lines in RV-6 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
I would think the adaptability of the RV-7 AFP kit for the RV-6 would
largely depend on the width of the center cabin cover (space between the two
inboard floor stiffeners). I think the biggest value of the install kit
that Van's sells is that you have a pre-fab platform and cover shroud for
mounting the pump and filter. If that wasn't going to fit in the RV-6 then
I wouldn't bother with the install kit, just make your own.
FWIW, on my RV-7 the space between those floor stiffeners is 8". Is that
the same on the RV-6?
Looks like the price of the kit is about $70 more than just buying the pump
& filter alone. I don't know...looking back, it seems like it would be
pretty easy to make an .040 mounting base, cut some slots...and clamps,
rubber channel, tubing and fittings are cheap. The cover shroud would be
pretty easy to make as well.
Easy for me to say...coming from an RV-7 builder. But hopefully this info
helps in some way. Good luck!
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jordan Grant" <jgrant@sw.rr.com>
Subject: RV-List: AFP Boost Pump and Fuel Lines in RV-6
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Jordan Grant" <jgrant@sw.rr.com>
>
> The RV-6/A builders out there:
> I am pondering my Airflow Performance boost pump installation and
> fuel line routing for my RV-6. Can some of you that have done this
> alreay give me a short description of what you did? A search of the
> archives yielded some info, but not a clear answer on a good way to do
> this.
> My working theory right now is to adapt the high-pressure boost pump
> mounting stuff that Van's makes for the RV-7. I'm not sure how this will
> work because of the differences in the RV-7's wing spar carrythrough
> bulkhead design. Has anyone out there made this work in the RV-6?
>
> Thanks,
> Jordan Grant
> Working on panel and thinking about fuel lines
>
>
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Subject: | This cracks me up! |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@usjet.net>
Andy, this is interesting. I doubt your problems are workmanship, but
rather, the floating stiffener design. A couple of questions about the
9A:
1. What is the skin thickness on the 9's?
2. Do the stiffeners float, i.e., do they attach only to the skins (and
not to any other structure) as do the earlier models?
3. Did Van recommend to put RTV in the area of the trailing edge? He
did in the 6's, at least in my 93 vintage plans.
4. What engine/prop do you have?
If you are going to rebuild them, I would absolutely find a way to tie
the stiffeners to the spar on the front edge and use some goop to keep
the aft edges stabilized. That is what I'm going to do on the
inevitable rebuild.
Alex Peterson
Maple Grove, MN
RV6-A N66AP 310 hours
www.rvforum.org
www.usfamily.net/web/alexpeterson
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Andy Karmy" <andy@karmy.com>
>
> FYI... here's what I have been up to recently...
>
http://www.karmy.com/rv9a/pictures/cracks/cracks.htm
- Andy (85hrs TT)
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Subject: | Re: CD player..Kinda RV related |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Besing" <azpilot@extremezone.com>
I have the Creative Labs Nomad II. Works flawlessly for the last year. It
doesn't have the FM radio, but there is a model that does.
do not archive
Paul Besing
RV-6A Sold (Waiting on RV-10)
http://www.lacodeworks.com/besing
Kitlog Builder's Log Software
http://www.kitlog.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
Subject: RE: RV-List: CD player..Kinda RV related
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
>
> Which one do you have? I like the few that have the MP3 and FM
> capability. I think Nomad is one brand. Should these be able to plug
> into an intercom directly or will an amp or something be needed?
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry@BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
> 2003 - The year of flight!
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Besing
> > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 5:12 PM
> > To: rv-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: RV-List: CD player..Kinda RV related
> >
> >
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Besing" <azpilot@extremezone.com>
> >
> > The MP3 players are the way to go. No skipping, easy to use,
> > customized playlists, etc. Plus, the title of all the songs
> > appear on the LCD screen, so you can scroll though all of the
> > songs to the one you want without listening to the beginning
> > of each or looking at a legend that you put on the CD or CD case.
> >
> > Can't beat the price nowadays. I got the portable one so I
> > could use it while exercising, flying in other airplanes,
> > etc. I have 128MB model that has an additional capabilty of
> > 128MB. 256MB total gives you several hours of music without
> > changing CD's.
> >
> > Paul Besing
> > RV-6A Sold (Waiting on RV-10)
> > http://www.lacodeworks.com/besing
> > Kitlog Builder's Log Software
> > http://www.kitlog.com
> >
>
>
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Subject: | Re: This cracks me up! |
--> RV-List message posted by: Tom Lutgring <rv9abldr@juno.com>
Andy, Thank you for sharing this with us. I was reading your post below
from April 28, where you were describing some stall techniques. I am
curious If Vans had any input as to whether they felt this may be too
aggressive for the 9A. Possibly overstress the rudder? Maybe your
workmanship is perfect. The skins may need to be thicker with the
floating stiffener design. I guess it will take time and a few more
examples flying to see how much of a problem this will be. Are the 4 and
6 skins .016?
good luck, Tom RV-9A fuselage
>As for stalls, if you want to have some fun with them. Roll over into a
80 degree 4G level turn, then pull back until it stalls. It happens at
about 90mph and throws you to level. Or another fun one is fully cross
controlled rudder & aileron, pull into a stall and bam you're inverted!
Nice... Don't try this on the base to final turn that's for sure. But
like Ivo said you have to really try to get this type of behaviour out of
the RV9, it's not in the standard flight conditions that you will find
it.
>Q: Are any aerobatic maneuvers permitted in the 9A?
>Has anyone tried some?
Define permitted... Remember these are homebuilts, they have limits that
must be obeyed, they don't have "restrictions" per say... :)
Lots of sky turning can be had within +4.4G -1.7G Utility category limits
that the RV9 is built to.
- Andy
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Subject: | Re: Recommended RV camping gear? |
--> RV-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com
In a message dated 6/9/2003 2:22:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
jhstarn@earthlink.net writes:
> I assume you have the wing tip mod. for extra storage. A two person tent
> fits into one tip with room left over. Jackets and other light but bulkly
> items into the other
Nah; I thought about it but decided that's where the antennas go... I don't
really know how much it helps, but I know you won't find an antenna in the
slipstream anywhere on my plane anymore. I put the last two inside the wingtips
last week. GPS antenna is on the glareshield, ELT antenna in the baggage
window, XPDR antenna in the wheelpant, Comm ant. in one wingtip, 2 meter ham in
the
other. It may not increase speed, but it makes it much easier on the hands
to wash and wax the plane :-)
Never had any problem fitting anything I truly needed for a trip into the
baggage hold, but with camping gear, one does have to watch the weight and volume
add up.
Tell me more about stoves, coolers, chairs, etc...
-Bill B
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"RV-7 YAHOO" <RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com>, <rv-list@matronics.com>
Subject: | Transition training - Northern NY? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Steve J Hurlbut" <sjhdcl@kingston.net>
I hope to fly my RV7A within the next month or so.
I'm looking for an RV to do transition training in. I live 1 hour north of
Watertown, NY, or
3 hours east of Toronto, and would be willing to drive a few hours and pay
for some hours during a
weekend visit.
Thank you
Steve Hurlbut
Kingston, Ontario
RV7A
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Subject: | Re: charging problem |
--> RV-List message posted by: Larygagnon@aol.com
Well, I thought I had solved my charging problem when the adjustable voltage
regulator checked out bad at a local repair shop. I had the field wire to the
alternator plugged into the E terminal on the alternator instead of the field
terminal during the first engine run and figured that fried the regulator. I
put a new regulator in and was told by the shop to connect the unused yellow
wire from the regulator to switched 12 volts from the alternator switch in the
panel. I'm using the control vision EXP bus to supply power to the field of
the alternator. My Vision VM 1000 unit shows 12.7 to 13.3 volts but 25 to 39
amps output from the alternator. This is from Van's 35 amp alternator with
just lighting (strobes, nav and landing lights) on. Any thoughts on where to
look for a problem? What should my amp output be at 1000 RPM with just minimal
lighting on? Thanks in advance for any suggestions. First flight as soon as
I get this sorted out.
Larry.
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Subject: | Re: EAA- 25 pilots to Kitty Hawk |
--> RV-List message posted by: kempthornes <kempthornes@earthlink.net>
I'm with you Glenn.
I wonder if there is evidence that the AOPA is moving toward the high end,
business jets and other expensive stuff and EAA is flowing into the small
aircraft vacuum that is left. I also wonder if most of AOPAs membership
isn't owners of airplanes under $250,000? Where would they be without
us? Where would EAA be without homebuilt aircraft builders and owners?
The answer is they would both collapse.
Do we need to organize?
K. H. (Hal) Kempthorne
RV6-a N7HK flying!
PRB (El Paso de Robles, CA)
At 08:31 AM 6/9/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: glenn.williams@businessacft.bombardier.com
>
>I have been noticing for the past several years that the EAA has gotton big
>into sponsorship programs for themselves and are starting to be so big that
>they are forgetting about the "homebuilders" If you go to Oshkosh look at
>all the pepsi and john deere ads.
>
>Just my thoughts
>
>Glenn Williams
>do not archive
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Subject: | Re: NEW jABIRU 8 CYL ENGINE FLOWN IN rv6 |
--> RV-List message posted by: kempthornes <kempthornes@earthlink.net>
At 11:39 AM 6/9/2003 +1000, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "MICK MULLER" <MULLERPHARM@bigpond.com>
>
>For those who are interested, Jabiru have put 5 hours test flying in their
>8 cylinder jabiru powered RV6. Another engine option for RVers.
>
>http://www.jabiru.net.au/engines/8cylin.html
How much? Wouldn't an eight fly nice and smooth!! Like an electric motor.
do not archive
K. H. (Hal) Kempthorne
RV6-a N7HK flying!
PRB (El Paso de Robles, CA)
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Subject: | Re: AFP Boost Pump and Fuel Lines in RV-6 |
--> RV-List message posted by: Gil Alexander <gilalex@earthlink.net>
I just fitted this RV-7/9 central cover in my RV-6A. The floor channels
are the same distance apart. The front match to the firewall recess may be
slightly different... my early Vans firewall recess (bent to shape) seems
to be deeper than the present recess, so the top of the area that forms the
"heat plenum" may need to be trimmed a bit.
The aft end is different, since the RV-6A has a "V" shape on the floor just
ahead of the spar, while the RV-7/9 is flat in this area. So the fuel
selector support probably won't fit.
Except for the floor profile, everything else seems the same...
gil in Tucson
>I would think the adaptability of the RV-7 AFP kit for the RV-6 would
>largely depend on the width of the center cabin cover (space between the two
>inboard floor stiffeners). I think the biggest value of the install kit
>that Van's sells is that you have a pre-fab platform and cover shroud for
>mounting the pump and filter. If that wasn't going to fit in the RV-6 then
>I wouldn't bother with the install kit, just make your own.
>
>FWIW, on my RV-7 the space between those floor stiffeners is 8". Is that
>the same on the RV-6?
>
> > The RV-6/A builders out there:
> > I am pondering my Airflow Performance boost pump installation and
> > fuel line routing for my RV-6. Can some of you that have done this
> > alreay give me a short description of what you did? A search of the
> > archives yielded some info, but not a clear answer on a good way to do
> > this.
> > My working theory right now is to adapt the high-pressure boost pump
> > mounting stuff that Van's makes for the RV-7. I'm not sure how this will
> > work because of the differences in the RV-7's wing spar carrythrough
> > bulkhead design. Has anyone out there made this work in the RV-6?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jordan Grant
> > Working on panel and thinking about fuel lines
> >
> >
>
>
RV-6A, #20701 .. fitting out firewall...
77 Tiger N28478 at 57AZ
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Subject: | Re: Interior Cable protection? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Don Diehl <diehldon@attbi.com>
>>
>>
>> What ideas have some of the rest of you used to cover the section of
> rudder cable that runs beside the seats? Is there a good way to hide it
> behind a panel so that it will stay out of the way of passenger seat
> belts
> etc?
>
>
> You could run a length of PVC or Vinyl tubing between the formers for
> the
> cable to lay or run inside of.
>
> Jim in Kelowna
>
To straighten the curl in the as-purchased plastic tubing:
Insert a long rod then pour hot water through the tube.
Allow to cool. Remove the rod.
Don Diehl
Bremerton WA
RV-4, N28EW, With neat rudder cables.
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