---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 06/14/03: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:00 AM - Re: Interior string lighting (Dana Overall) 2. 05:49 AM - Re: Re:cowl preparation & Superfil (Paul Besing) 3. 08:05 AM - Which comes fist? (Rich Crosley) 4. 10:06 AM - Re: Re:cowl preparation (Nine Builder) 5. 11:12 AM - [ Jerry A Wilcox ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares) 6. 11:14 AM - [ Jerry A Wilcox ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares) 7. 03:47 PM - Re: RV10 (Michael McGee) 8. 05:24 PM - RV8-A, lines to master brake cylinder (Gert) 9. 08:35 PM - Re: RV10 (WPAerial@aol.com) 10. 11:50 PM - Flying Stories (Tom Gummo) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:00:55 AM PST US From: "Dana Overall" Subject: Re: RV-List: Interior string lighting --> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" >From: Jerry Springer > >Dana, the object is to be able to see them in the dark. :-) > >Jerry >do not archive Yes, but Jerry at least for a moment that airplane building induced black hole between my ears flickered ever so briefly........... Another builder on a plastic airplane building list sent this out. This guy says you can cut the stuff as long as you seal the cut end. Get the stuff in string form or tape form. I'm still thinking under the glare screen this just may be the cat's meow...............cheap and way too easy to install. http://www.elwirecheap.com Dana Overall Richmond, KY RV-7 slider/fuselage http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:49:41 AM PST US From: "Paul Besing" Subject: Re: Re:RV-List: cowl preparation & Superfil --> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Besing" Superfil is easy to sand, and does the job, however, what I did not like about superfil is the dry time. Pretty much count on overnight or at least all day. Instead, I used Evercoat. It is a finishing glaze for body work. It dries as fast as bondo, goes on thinner, and the bottle goes a long way. If after you sand it and find some pinholes that you missed, filling is a snap due to the dry time. Paul Besing RV-6A Sold (Waiting on RV-10) http://www.lacodeworks.com/besing Kitlog Builder's Log Software http://www.kitlog.com ----- Original Message ----- From: " bert murillo" Subject: Re:RV-List: cowl preparation & Superfil > --> RV-List message posted by: " bert murillo" > > Dave: > > In my experience, I applied the super fill as per > mfg. Instructions. You do not thinn it out...use a > small spreader, depending of size you need. once set, > you sand it to smooth finish... really it is easy to > sand once started. > > The way I understand it, as told by my builder friends > tell me, it is use to make a very smooth base, before > you apply the Fiber-Glss... > > I just finished doing my fairing, for the wind screen > on my Rv6a, slider.. I had to lay three layers of Fiber > Glass, after the super filled, was completed... > > Hope this will help you . If you have other questions > contact me off the list... > > Bert > > Rv6a > > Finishing canopy > > > Do Not Archive > > Sign up for Internet Service under $10 dollars a month, at http://isp.BlueLight.com > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:05:41 AM PST US From: "Rich Crosley" Subject: RV-List: Which comes fist? --> RV-List message posted by: "Rich Crosley" I am at the point on my RV-8 of installing the panel, engine, and top forward fuselage skin. What is the best order? It seems to me it would be a lot eaiser to install the instruments and engine before the top skin. Is there a disadvantage to doing it this way? Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks, Rich Crosley Palmdale, CA ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:06:18 AM PST US From: Nine Builder Subject: Re: RV-List: Re:cowl preparation --> RV-List message posted by: Nine Builder Burt, several listers have reported that Superfil is easy to sand. I find that Superfil is no easier to sand than West Systems Marine grade (medium speed hardener) epoxy with microballoons. A West System slurry is easy to mix and you can readily tailor the viscosity. Superfil is light blue and looks funny until it is painted. I had earlier tried a microballoon slurry of Tap Plasics marine-grade epoxy using a fast hardener and found it hard to sand. Leland in Pleasanton, RV9AQB fairings ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:12:50 AM PST US Subject: RV-List: [ Jerry A Wilcox ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! From: Email List Photo Shares --> RV-List message posted by: Email List Photo Shares A new Email List Photo Share is available: Poster: Jerry A Wilcox Subject: RV8 Engine Instillation with Custom Exhaust System http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/jerrywilcox@rogers.com.06.14.2003/index.html o Main Photo Share Index http://www.matronics.com/photoshare o Submitting a Photo Share If you wish to submit a Photo Share of your own, please include the following information along with your email message and files: 1) Email List or Lists that they are related to: 2) Your Full Name: 3) Your Email Address: 4) One line Subject description: 5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic: 6) One-line Description of each photo or file: Email the information above and your files and photos to: pictures@matronics.com ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:14:13 AM PST US Subject: RV-List: [ Jerry A Wilcox ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! From: Email List Photo Shares --> RV-List message posted by: Email List Photo Shares A new Email List Photo Share is available: Poster: Jerry A Wilcox Subject: RV8 #81692 Just prior to first flight http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/jerrywilcox@rogers.com.2.06.14.2003/index.html o Main Photo Share Index http://www.matronics.com/photoshare o Submitting a Photo Share If you wish to submit a Photo Share of your own, please include the following information along with your email message and files: 1) Email List or Lists that they are related to: 2) Your Full Name: 3) Your Email Address: 4) One line Subject description: 5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic: 6) One-line Description of each photo or file: Email the information above and your files and photos to: pictures@matronics.com ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:47:27 PM PST US From: Michael McGee Subject: RE: RV-List: RV10 --> RV-List message posted by: Michael McGee Just got back from the 12th Annual Home Wing Flyin. The RV-10 was there and it looked goo-oo-oo-ood!. Mike McGee, RV-4 N996RV, O320-E2G, Hillsboro, OR 13B in gestation mode At 23:47 2003-06-13 -0400, you wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "James E. Clark" > >According to Tom, they have about 15+ hours on the plane. > >Yes, they are in a different category for the prototype. This category >allows them to have the second person (engineer) on board collecting data >(via computer etc.). > >They are still working hard to get it all together by OSH. > > >James > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of N13eer@aol.com > > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:43 PM > > To: rv-list@matronics.com > > Subject: RE: RV-List: RV10 > > > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: N13eer@aol.com > > > > I'm not sure the 40 hour rule applies to Vans, their planes are > > not amateur built so have to go into another experimental class > > with different rules. > > > > > > Anyone know if Van's has flown off the 25 or 40 hours on this > > plane already > > (too late this evening to call and ask)??? > > > > I notice what **looks** like a second person in the cabin > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:24:31 PM PST US From: Gert rv-list Subject: RV-List: RV8-A, lines to master brake cylinder --> RV-List message posted by: Gert Here's a question for all you wise persons On Van's drawings, there are 2 separate lines running from the brake fluid reservoir all the way to the brake cylinders. Why not run a single line to the center of the bagage bulkhead and then split the lines up in lines going to the brake cylinders?? I realize there are brake cylinders with build in reservoirs, however, being 6'6" I need the rudder pedals as far forward as possible. I am afraid that the reservoirs interfere with the firewall. Thanks Gert -- is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:35:44 PM PST US From: WPAerial@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: RV10 --> RV-List message posted by: WPAerial@aol.com Went to the home wing this morning. the 10 has 23 hours on it, nice air plane, was told the # are coming out as they hoped. asked how many hours they had to fly off and was told 50. I believe you and I can have a second person in the air plane during the fly off time to record data also. Jerry Wilken N699WP RV6A 121 hours since Dec. 23,02 Albany Oregon ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:50:02 PM PST US From: "Tom Gummo" "RV List" Subject: RV-List: Flying Stories --> RV-List message posted by: "Tom Gummo" Flying Stories Not Related to Building Do not archive About a week ago, I took one of my nephews, 6 years old, flying in the Rocket. He asked what all the buttons on the stick did. I explained how the 4 way trim button helped fly the plane. He seemed to enjoy the ride and we were returning to the field when the stick got very heavy. I started to get worried that something was wrong with the plane when I looked up at the trim indicator. It was moving toward full nose down. I got on my button but it didnt help. The plane was starting to be a hand full as the speed was still over 140 KIAS. When the bell went off in my head and I asked him if he was moving the button on the stick. He replied he was helping me fly. Once I asked him to stop, my button took control and trim control was regained. I had forgotten that I had told him I would let him fly. Today, I was flying with my daughter. As we were taxiing out, she said that she didnt want me to think she was a terrorist but she didnt want to learn to take-off or land but wanted to learn to do basic acrobatics. :-) During the flight, I was doing a loop. I tend to pull too hard over the top and, once in a while, stall upside down. This time the top was fine but as I started to pull the nose up, the stick got very heavy again. I pulled and pulled but lost lots of altitude. Once again, I looked to the trim indicator, and it was moving toward full nose down again. This time, I was causing it. Somehow, the web of my hand, between the thumb and index finger, was high enough on the stick to bump the trim switch without my feeling it. Tom Gummo Apple Valley, CA Harmon Rocket N-561FS, 125 hours 280+ landings