Today's Message Index:
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1. 03:51 AM - Re: Oops with flap actuator rod end (LarryRobertHelming)
2. 05:27 AM - Finally--22DW flies (Doug Weiler)
3. 07:10 AM - Re: Re: [rv8list] Re: Max fwd stick (Greg Young)
4. 08:04 AM - Max fwd stick (RV_8 Pilot)
5. 08:19 AM - Re: Re: [rv8list] Re: Max fwd stick (Scott Bilinski)
6. 09:04 AM - Flaps (John Furey)
7. 09:04 AM - Re: Flying Stories (Vincent Welch)
8. 10:17 AM - ELT switch box mounting (Dan Checkoway)
9. 11:11 AM - Re: ELT switch box mounting (Laird Owens)
10. 11:18 AM - Re: Oops with flap actuator rod end (Mike Robertson)
11. 11:41 AM - proseal use (Evan and Megan Johnson)
12. 11:41 AM - Re: ELT switch box mounting (Jim Norman)
13. 12:24 PM - Re: proseal use (jhstarn@earthlink.net)
14. 12:52 PM - -A model Towbar (Scott)
15. 01:28 PM - Re: ELT switch box mounting (Elsa & Henry)
16. 01:42 PM - Re: -A model Towbar (Dwpetrus@aol.com)
17. 02:04 PM - Re: Flying Stories (David.vonLinsowe)
18. 02:12 PM - Sensenich Prop (Jim Nolan)
19. 03:03 PM - Re: -A model Towbar (Mike Robertson)
20. 03:22 PM - Re: -A model Towbar (Lenleg@aol.com)
21. 03:31 PM - Re: Flying Stories (Tedd McHenry)
22. 04:24 PM - Re: RV-10 (Jerry2DT@aol.com)
23. 05:39 PM - Re: Oops with flap actuator rod end (Larry Bowen)
24. 05:49 PM - Re: Re: [rv8list] Re: Max fwd stick (Larry Bowen)
25. 05:53 PM - Re: proseal use (Evan and Megan Johnson)
26. 06:11 PM - Re: Re: [rv8list] Re: Max fwd stick (Jerry Springer)
27. 06:40 PM - Re: Re: proseal use (jhstarn@earthlink.net)
28. 07:34 PM - Exit for stick grip wires (N67BT@aol.com)
29. 08:39 PM - Re: Re: proseal use (kempthornes)
30. 09:00 PM - Re: Re: Re: proseal use (jhstarn@earthlink.net)
31. 09:46 PM - Re: Re: proseal use (Mike Stephenson)
32. 10:23 PM - 2nd seater during flyoff (was Re: Re: RV-10) (Randall Henderson)
33. 11:31 PM - Re: 2nd seater during flyoff (was Re: Re: RV-10) (Tom Gummo)
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| Subject: | Re: Oops with flap actuator rod end |
--> RV-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" <lhelming@sigecom.net>
A number 54 drill should be used for small safety wire holes. It's in the
plans somewhere but you must look patiently for it.
Larry in Indiana, RV7 Tip-up O-360 3XG reserved.
Working on Canopy of Finish Kit
----- Original Message -----
From: "Neil McLeod" <bedrock@theriver.com>
Subject: RE: RV-List: Oops with flap actuator rod end
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Neil McLeod" <bedrock@theriver.com>
>
> Dan,
>
> I drilled mine with an ordinary drill and a brand new 1/16" bit from the
> local Ace Hardware aircraft supply house. Easy with a new sharp bit,
> impossible with the old dull bit I tried to use initially.
>
> Neil McLeod
> 7 QB FWF and finish
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Checkoway
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Oops with flap actuator rod end
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
>
> Yeah, well...if anybody has a trick for drilling that diagonal safety
> wire
> hole, *please* let me know!
>
> Otherwise I'm resigned to using loctite...
>
> do not archive
> )_( Dan
> RV-7 N714D
> http://www.rvproject.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "thomas a. sargent" <sarg314@earthlink.net>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Oops with flap actuator rod end
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "thomas a. sargent"
> <sarg314@earthlink.net>
> >
> > This same thing happened to me as I was running my flaps up and down
> > after finally getting everything installed. I called vans and was told
> > by Bruce that it had happened to him in flight! The solution they are
> > recommending now is to use very small drill and to drill a diagonal
> hole
> > thru the edge of the end of the actuator and to then run a safety wire
> > thru that and to secure the wire to the bolt going thru the rod end
> > somehow. This keeps the end of the actuator from rotating. I will
> use
> > the stop nut AND the safety wire.
> >
> > --
> > Tom Sargent
> > RV-6A
> >
> >
> > racker@rmci.net wrote:
> >
> > >--> RV-List message posted by: <racker@rmci.net>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>It might be possible to
> > >>drill a small hole through the jack screw and rod end and secure
> with a
> > >>cotter pin. Anybody tried this?
> > >>Ron.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >Yes. The first time I tried the flap mechanism while building it
> came
> > >apart, after some head scratching the cotter pin solution became
> apparent.
> > >
> > >Rob Acker (RV-6 flying)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Finally--22DW flies |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Weiler" <dougweil@pressenter.com>
Fellow Listers
Well it's only been 12 1/2 years, but I'm happy to report that my RV-4,
N722DW made its first flight yesterday at Lake Elmo Airport in Minnesota.
Everything went very well.. the usual requirement for some right rudder trim
and the right wing is a tad heavy. But the new Aerosport 180hp ran perfect
as we expected. Weather was perfect.. clear and no wind.
And... in addition, one of our other MN Wing members, Tom Berge, flew his
RV-7A just 90 minutes later (we both had the same DAR making the rounds on
Sunday afternoon). Tom's flight was uneventful (180 Aerosport with dual
electronic ignition and a dual electrical systems). Plus it flew perfectly
straight.. and only a 22 month construction time!!
It was a fun day!!
Doug Weiler,
pres, MN Wing
N722DW... flying!!!
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| Subject: | Re: RE: [rv8list] Re: Max fwd stick |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Greg Young" <gyoung@cs-sol.com>
I had both sticks drilled and they both broke off cleanly in my accident. It
probably saved me some injury but I don't think I'll do it again. At least
not the left. I may do the right so I can use the canopy breaker tip on it.
Regards,
Greg Young - Houston (DWH)
RV-6 N6GY ...project Phoenix - canoe stage
Navion N5221K - just an XXL RV-6A
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
>
> On a related note...is it preferable to drill an exit hole
> for any stick wires? Is it not adviseable just to run the
> wires out the bottom of the stick where the aileron pushrod
> and crosslink rod attach? I'm referring to an RV-7, which
> may be different than the -8, but I assume is pretty similar
> to an RV-6.
>
> Just curious,
> )_( Dan
> RV-7 N714D
> http://www.rvproject.com
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "RV_8 Pilot" <rv_8pilot@hotmail.com>
I'm using the Infinity grip on my fwd stick. Drilled the hole very high (as
high as possible) and routed the wire down the front of the stick. Doesn't
look perfectly neat, but it's stronger drilled (and deburred thoroughly)
higher.
Bryan Jones -8
Pearland, Texas
>Dan Checkoway wrote:
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
> >
> > On a related note...is it preferable to drill an exit hole for any stick
> > wires? Is it not adviseable just to run the wires out the bottom of the
> > stick where the aileron pushrod and crosslink rod attach? I'm referring
>to
> > an RV-7, which may be different than the -8, but I assume is pretty
>similar
> > to an RV-6.
> >
> > Just curious,
> > )_( Dan
> > RV-7 N714D
> > http://www.rvproject.com
> >
>
>My vote is no to drilling an exit hole in the bottom of the stick.
>I sure don't want the stick breaking off in my hand as I am coming out
>of a loop or 50 ft from landing.
>
>I have a -6 so can't speak for how the other models are made.
>This is just my opinion and am not arguing with anyone that does it.
>Jerry
>do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: RE: [rv8list] Re: Max fwd stick |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
Cant run the cable out the bottom of the stick in an 8. The fore and aft
pivot bolt goes through the stick which will prevent the cable from coming
out the bottom.
At 09:07 AM 6/16/03 -0500, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Greg Young" <gyoung@cs-sol.com>
>
>I had both sticks drilled and they both broke off cleanly in my accident. It
>probably saved me some injury but I don't think I'll do it again. At least
>not the left. I may do the right so I can use the canopy breaker tip on it.
>
>Regards,
>Greg Young - Houston (DWH)
>RV-6 N6GY ...project Phoenix - canoe stage
>Navion N5221K - just an XXL RV-6A
>
>
>>
>> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
>>
>> On a related note...is it preferable to drill an exit hole
>> for any stick wires? Is it not adviseable just to run the
>> wires out the bottom of the stick where the aileron pushrod
>> and crosslink rod attach? I'm referring to an RV-7, which
>> may be different than the -8, but I assume is pretty similar
>> to an RV-6.
>>
>> Just curious,
>> )_( Dan
>> RV-7 N714D
>> http://www.rvproject.com
>>
>
>
Scott Bilinski
Eng dept 305
Phone (858) 657-2536
Pager (858) 502-5190
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--> RV-List message posted by: "John Furey" <john@fureychrysler.com>
I'm still a little uncertain what you are actually doing to secure this. Could
anyone send me details or a picture?
Thanks,
John Furey RV6A
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| Subject: | Re: Flying Stories |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Vincent Welch" <welchvincent@hotmail.com>
That's why I have a "Grandpa" switch on the right hand switch panel that
disables ALL control functions on the rear stick. :)
Vince
>From: "Tom Gummo" <t.gummo@verizon.net>
>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>To: "Rocket List" <rocket-list@matronics.com>, "RV List"
><rv-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RV-List: Flying Stories
>Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 23:28:18 -0700
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Tom Gummo" <t.gummo@verizon.net>
>
>Flying Stories
>Not Related to Building
>Do not archive
>
>About a week ago, I took one of my nephews, 6 years old, flying in the
>Rocket. He asked what all the buttons on the stick did. I explained how
>the 4 way trim button helped fly the plane. He seemed to enjoy the ride
>and
>we were returning to the field when the stick got very heavy. I started to
>get worried that something was wrong with the plane when I looked up at the
>trim indicator. It was moving toward full nose down. I got on my button
>but it didnt help. The plane was starting to be a hand full as the speed
>was still over 140 KIAS. When the bell went off in my head and I asked him
>if he was moving the button on the stick. He replied he was helping me
>fly.
>Once I asked him to stop, my button took control and trim control was
>regained. I had forgotten that I had told him I would let him fly.
>
>Today, I was flying with my daughter. As we were taxiing out, she said
>that
>she didnt want me to think she was a terrorist but she didnt want to learn
>to take-off or land but wanted to learn to do basic acrobatics. :-)
>During the flight, I was doing a loop. I tend to pull too hard over the
>top
>and, once in a while, stall upside down. This time the top was fine but as
>I started to pull the nose up, the stick got very heavy again. I pulled
>and
>pulled but lost lots of altitude. Once again, I looked to the trim
>indicator, and it was moving toward full nose down again. This time, I was
>causing it. Somehow, the web of my hand, between the thumb and index
>finger, was high enough on the stick to bump the trim switch without my
>feeling it.
>
>
>Tom Gummo
>Apple Valley, CA
>Harmon Rocket N-561FS, 125 hours 280+ landings
>
>
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| Subject: | ELT switch box mounting |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
Last night a buddy was over at my shop and we were talking about where to
mount my remote ELT switch. He actually came up with a pretty decent
suggestion, but I wanted to put the idea out there to sanity check it. The
spot we were talking about is up high on the top half of the baggage
bulkhead cover...in the back baggage wall.
I figure it's not a half bad idea. Since my ELT itself is mounted in the
aft fuselage, mounting the switch on the back wall would alleviate the long
wiring run for the switch...I could use a 4 or 5' cord instead. It would
alleviate the need to cut a hole in the panel and take up real estate there.
It would still serve the purpose of being able to hit the switch easily when
seated in the cockpit by just reaching back.
Since the ACK ELT uses modular (phone) cable, if and when I remove the upper
baggage bulkhead for inspections/maintenance, I can just pop the modular
cord out.
Does anybody see any potential snags with mounting the switch panel there?
It makes good sense to me, but there could be something I'm forgetting!
Thanks in advance,
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
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| Subject: | Re: ELT switch box mounting |
--> RV-List message posted by: Laird Owens <owens@aerovironment.com>
Dan,
I remember going thru the same thought process, but someone pointed
out (IIRC) that that the regs say it has to be in the field of view
of the pilot. Might want to research that aspect.
Laird
(still playing with toy airplanes on Kauai)
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
>
>Last night a buddy was over at my shop and we were talking about where to
>mount my remote ELT switch. He actually came up with a pretty decent
>suggestion, but I wanted to put the idea out there to sanity check it. The
>spot we were talking about is up high on the top half of the baggage
>bulkhead cover...in the back baggage wall.
>
>I figure it's not a half bad idea. Since my ELT itself is mounted in the
>aft fuselage, mounting the switch on the back wall would alleviate the long
>wiring run for the switch...I could use a 4 or 5' cord instead. It would
>alleviate the need to cut a hole in the panel and take up real estate there.
>It would still serve the purpose of being able to hit the switch easily when
>seated in the cockpit by just reaching back.
>
>Since the ACK ELT uses modular (phone) cable, if and when I remove the upper
>baggage bulkhead for inspections/maintenance, I can just pop the modular
>cord out.
>
>Does anybody see any potential snags with mounting the switch panel there?
>It makes good sense to me, but there could be something I'm forgetting!
>
>Thanks in advance,
>)_( Dan
>RV-7 N714D
>http://www.rvproject.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Oops with flap actuator rod end |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Robertson" <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
Van's, in their newer plans, also suggets lockwiring the rod end to the
shaft via a small hole drilled in the shaft for that purpose.
Mike Robertson
>From: "Arthur and Christine" <act1@reap.org.nz>
>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RV-List: Oops with flap actuator rod end
>Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 21:05:59 +1200
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Arthur and Christine" <act1@reap.org.nz>
>
>My better half Christine flew our RV-8 from Taupo to Hamilton and back, on
>final back at Taupo she went from 1/2 to full flap, there was a loud bang
>as full extention was reached and the flaps instantly went to 1/2
>extention.
>
>The rod-end on the end of the extention arm, that attaches to the fuselage
>bulkhead bracket, had wound out of the arm. Only damage was a slight dent
>in the armrest and burring of the last thread on the rod-end.
>
>Have reinstaled with lock-tite so we are not just relying on the lock nut
>to hold it all together and check it each preflight to ensure it is still
>tight.
>
>Arthur whitehead
>RV-8 ZK-KCA
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Evan and Megan Johnson" <evmeg@snowcrest.net>
I just found yet another great use for proseal.....as a plumbing sealant. After the 3rd try at building a new drain line and trap under my kitchen sink I got mad and liberally prosealed all of the joints....success! I think if the stuff will hold off AV gas then it should do ok with hot spagetti water. Definately do not archive......If any of you guys and gals need help with your tanks let me know....I like them a lot more than plumbing. Check out my website at www.evansaviationproducts.com
:) Evan
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| Subject: | ELT switch box mounting |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Norman" <jgnorman@tampabay.rr.com>
Been done a thousand times... incuding mine.
jim
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Dan Checkoway
Subject: RV-List: ELT switch box mounting
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
Last night a buddy was over at my shop and we were talking about where to
mount my remote ELT switch. He actually came up with a pretty decent
suggestion, but I wanted to put the idea out there to sanity check it. The
spot we were talking about is up high on the top half of the baggage
bulkhead cover...in the back baggage wall.
I figure it's not a half bad idea. Since my ELT itself is mounted in the
aft fuselage, mounting the switch on the back wall would alleviate the long
wiring run for the switch...I could use a 4 or 5' cord instead. It would
alleviate the need to cut a hole in the panel and take up real estate there.
It would still serve the purpose of being able to hit the switch easily when
seated in the cockpit by just reaching back.
Since the ACK ELT uses modular (phone) cable, if and when I remove the upper
baggage bulkhead for inspections/maintenance, I can just pop the modular
cord out.
Does anybody see any potential snags with mounting the switch panel there?
It makes good sense to me, but there could be something I'm forgetting!
Thanks in advance,
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
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--> RV-List message posted by: jhstarn@earthlink.net
I just love it...after 20+ years in A/C, Plumbing Service business I love these
stories. Use't to say $47.00 an hour if I do it all. $57.00 if you watch and
say anything. $75.00 if you tried to fix it first. Wait till you get the bill
for total replacement when you attempt to sell the home. If the fixtures leak
it's 'cause they were #1 the wrong parts to start with OR #2 they were assembled
incorrectly OR #3 the gaskets were left out or put in inverted. (PLEASE tell
me you didn't use the white PVC "stuff" from K-Mart) KABONG (GBA) 8*)
-------Original Message-------
From: Evan and Megan Johnson <evmeg@snowcrest.net>
Subject: RV-List: proseal use
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Evan and Megan Johnson"
<evmeg@snowcrest.net>
I just found yet another great use for proseal.....as a plumbing sealant.
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Scott" <scott@hecenter.com>
Does anyone knowof a quality-folding-standard towbar that works on a late
model -A aircraft.
Searched arcives...heard all the following:
Cessna bar works great
Cessna bar sucks
Cessna bar not wide enough
Grumman bar works great
Grumman bar sucks
Custom bar works great
Custom bar sucks
Thanks
Scott
7A Airport this month
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| Subject: | Re: ELT switch box mounting |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Elsa & Henry" <elsa-henry@darlor-watch.com>
I mounted it on an angle bracket screwed to the underside of the right main
longeron behind the passenger seat (6-A tip-up). On the horizontal arm of
the bracket I mounted the ELT antenna and on the vertical arm I mounted the
switch panel. The ELT unit is mounted on top of the F650 baggage rear
right side panel. Don't know if this would work with a Slider.
Cheers!!----Henry Hore
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| Subject: | Re: -A model Towbar |
--> RV-List message posted by: Dwpetrus@aol.com
Just bought one from Glen Beringer @ g& d Metal Fab in Cal.. It is very
compact and lite, yet plenty strong to handle my 8A. Give him a call at
310-322-1627.
Wayne Petrus
RV8A
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| Subject: | RE: Flying Stories |
--> RV-List message posted by: "David.vonLinsowe" <David.vonLinsowe@delphi.com>
Tom,
I had a similar thing happen in my 6, but it was caused by the down
elevator trim button sticking on top of the stick. I was lightly
tapping the trim buttons because the trim is rather sensitive and didn't
have my hand on the stick to let the airplane trim out. Then all of a
sudden the nose starts arcing over, it sure gets your attention in a
hurry!!! The up button would unstick the down trim. Some very fine
Dave
RV-6 180 hp
The need for (more) speed--->
Do not archive
Time: 11:46:36 PM PST US
From: "Tom Gummo" <t.gummo@verizon.net>
"RV List" <rv-list@matronics.com>
Subject: Rocket-List: Flying Stories
--> Rocket-List message posted by: "Tom Gummo" <t.gummo@verizon.net>
Flying Stories
Not Related to Building
Do not archive
About a week ago, I took one of my nephews, 6 years old, flying in the
Rocket. He asked what all the buttons on the stick did. I explained
how
the 4 way trim button helped fly the plane. He seemed to enjoy the ride
and
we were returning to the field when the stick got very heavy. I started
to
get worried that something was wrong with the plane when I looked up at
the
trim indicator. It was moving toward full nose down. I got on my
button
but it didnt help. The plane was starting to be a hand full as the
speed
was still over 140 KIAS. When the bell went off in my head and I asked
him
if he was moving the button on the stick. He replied he was helping me
fly.
Once I asked him to stop, my button took control and trim control was
regained. I had forgotten that I had told him I would let him fly.
Today, I was flying with my daughter. As we were taxiing out, she said
that
she didnt want me to think she was a terrorist but she didnt want to
learn
to take-off or land but wanted to learn to do basic acrobatics. :-)
During the flight, I was doing a loop. I tend to pull too hard over the
top
and, once in a while, stall upside down. This time the top was fine but
as
I started to pull the nose up, the stick got very heavy again. I pulled
and
pulled but lost lots of altitude. Once again, I looked to the trim
indicator, and it was moving toward full nose down again. This time, I
was
causing it. Somehow, the web of my hand, between the thumb and index
finger, was high enough on the stick to bump the trim switch without my
feeling it.
Tom Gummo
Apple Valley, CA
Harmon Rocket N-561FS, 125 hours 280+ landings
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Nolan" <jimnolan@insightbb.com>
Listers,
If you've got a 160 hp RV4 with a Sensenich prop, I need you're advice. I'm
getting ready to order a Sensenich prop and I don't know what pitch to get. If
you can tell me your climb and cruise speeds for your particular pitch at gross
weight conditions, I'd certainly appreciate it. Thanks
Jim Nolan
N444JN
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| Subject: | Re: -A model Towbar |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Robertson" <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
Stan Van Grunsven makes a very nice folding towbar specifically desigend for
RV's. Give him a call. His number is (360) 254-3492.
Mike Robertson
>From: "Scott" <scott@hecenter.com>
>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>To: <rv-list@matronics.com>, <vansairforce@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: RV-List: -A model Towbar
>Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:51:31 -0400
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Scott" <scott@hecenter.com>
>
>Does anyone knowof a quality-folding-standard towbar that works on a late
>model -A aircraft.
>
>Searched arcives...heard all the following:
>Cessna bar works great
>Cessna bar sucks
>Cessna bar not wide enough
>Grumman bar works great
>Grumman bar sucks
>Custom bar works great
>Custom bar sucks
>
>Thanks
>Scott
>7A Airport this month
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: -A model Towbar |
--> RV-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
I am flying the 8A, plans #80910 , first flew Oct 2002. I bought the custom
towbar from California that does not fit around my wheelpant. I bought the
Deluxe Cessna towbar from Sportys and it works great !!!
Len Leggette RV-8A
N901LL
Greensboro, N.C.
93 hours !! Race # 87
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| Subject: | Re: Flying Stories |
--> RV-List message posted by: Tedd McHenry <tedd@vansairforce.org>
> He replied he was helping me fly.
In the air force I gave several tours of static airplanes to children from
local schools or scouts groups. If you put a child in the seat of jet, nine
times out of ten he or she will reach for the first brightly-coloured switch or
lever that catches his or her eye. Canopy jettison handles were popular, being
right up front and painted with yellow and black stripes. Fortunately, our
display aircraft were always properly "safetied."
Tedd McHenry
Surrey, BC
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--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry2DT@aol.com
I asked Van if he had cruise numbers yet. "170 knots". They are going to sell
a bunch of those puppies....
Jerry Cochran
Wilsonville, OR
RV6a/FWF
<<--> RV-List message posted by: WPAerial@aol.com
Went to the home wing this morning. the 10 has 23 hours on it, nice air
plane, was told the # are coming out as they hoped.
asked how many hours they had to fly off and was told 50.
I believe you and I can have a second person in the air plane during the fly
off time to record data also.
Jerry Wilken>>
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| Subject: | Oops with flap actuator rod end |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
I'd think they would illustrate that change in the Rvator and website.
Or did I miss it?
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
2003 - The year of flight!
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike
> Robertson
> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 2:12 PM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Oops with flap actuator rod end
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Robertson"
> <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
>
> Van's, in their newer plans, also suggets lockwiring the rod
> end to the
> shaft via a small hole drilled in the shaft for that purpose.
>
> Mike Robertson
>
>
> >From: "Arthur and Christine" <act1@reap.org.nz>
> >Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
> >To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: RV-List: Oops with flap actuator rod end
> >Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 21:05:59 +1200
> >
> >--> RV-List message posted by: "Arthur and Christine"
> >--> <act1@reap.org.nz>
> >
> >My better half Christine flew our RV-8 from Taupo to
> Hamilton and back,
> >on
> >final back at Taupo she went from 1/2 to full flap, there
> was a loud bang
> >as full extention was reached and the flaps instantly went to 1/2
> >extention.
> >
> >The rod-end on the end of the extention arm, that attaches to the
> >fuselage
> >bulkhead bracket, had wound out of the arm. Only damage was
> a slight dent
> >in the armrest and burring of the last thread on the rod-end.
> >
> >Have reinstaled with lock-tite so we are not just relying on
> the lock
> >nut
> >to hold it all together and check it each preflight to
> ensure it is still
> >tight.
> >
> >Arthur whitehead
> >RV-8 ZK-KCA
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RE: [rv8list] Re: Max fwd stick |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
And if you could squeeze it past the bolt, the bottom of the stick see a
lot of relative movement. The idea of exiting near the pivot point is
to minimize the movement, and thus wear, of the wire. Drilling the
small hole in the chrome-moly steel does not weaken it any appreciable
amount. IMO.
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
2003 - The year of flight!
> -----Original Message-----
> Scott Bilinski
> --> <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
>
> Cant run the cable out the bottom of the stick in an 8. The
> fore and aft pivot bolt goes through the stick which will
> prevent the cable from coming out the bottom.
>
> At 09:07 AM 6/16/03 -0500, you wrote:
> >--> RV-List message posted by: "Greg Young" <gyoung@cs-sol.com>
> >
> >I had both sticks drilled and they both broke off cleanly in my
> >accident. It probably saved me some injury but I don't think
> I'll do it
> >again. At least not the left. I may do the right so I can use the
> >canopy breaker tip on it.
> >
> >Regards,
> >Greg Young - Houston (DWH)
> >RV-6 N6GY ...project Phoenix - canoe stage
> >Navion N5221K - just an XXL RV-6A
> >
> >
> >>
> >> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
> >>
> >> On a related note...is it preferable to drill an exit hole
> >> for any stick wires? Is it not adviseable just to run the
> >> wires out the bottom of the stick where the aileron pushrod
> >> and crosslink rod attach? I'm referring to an RV-7, which
> >> may be different than the -8, but I assume is pretty similar
> >> to an RV-6.
> >>
> >> Just curious,
> >> )_( Dan
> >> RV-7 N714D
> >> http://www.rvproject.com
> >>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Evan and Megan Johnson" <evmeg@snowcrest.net>
OH COME ON!.......Try to have a sense of humor! One thing I have never
claimed to be is a good plumber. Those guys make good money for a
reason.....It wont leak. I do happen to be very good at fuel tank building
though and I thought you guys might get a kick out of this. Gotta use your
resources ya know. If you travel for 47 bucks an hour im in....... :)
Evan.......
Who's going to the fly in in Marysville CA. next weekend?
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: <jhstarn@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: proseal use
> --> RV-List message posted by: jhstarn@earthlink.net
>
> I just love it...after 20+ years in A/C, Plumbing Service business I love
these stories. Use't to say $47.00 an hour if I do it all. $57.00 if you
watch and say anything. $75.00 if you tried to fix it first. Wait till you
get the bill for total replacement when you attempt to sell the home. If the
fixtures leak it's 'cause they were #1 the wrong parts to start with OR #2
they were assembled incorrectly OR #3 the gaskets were left out or put in
inverted. (PLEASE tell me you didn't use the white PVC "stuff" from K-Mart)
KABONG (GBA) 8*)
>
> -------Original Message-------
> From: Evan and Megan Johnson <evmeg@snowcrest.net>
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV-List: proseal use
>
> >
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Evan and Megan Johnson"
> <evmeg@snowcrest.net>
>
> I just found yet another great use for proseal.....as a plumbing sealant.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RE: [rv8list] Re: Max fwd stick |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
Larry Bowen wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
>
> And if you could squeeze it past the bolt, the bottom of the stick see a
> lot of relative movement. The idea of exiting near the pivot point is
> to minimize the movement, and thus wear, of the wire. Drilling the
> small hole in the chrome-moly steel does not weaken it any appreciable
> amount. IMO.
>
Actually it does Larry, of course depending on the size of the hole.
Some of the grips nowadays have a lot of wires coming from them requiring
a fairly large hole.
As I said I would not do it but YMMV.
do not archive
Jerry
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--> RV-List message posted by: jhstarn@earthlink.net
KABONG w/o a sence of humor, ain't never gonna happen. I have traded lots of plumbing
work for fly time, just ask Gummibear. APV to Marysville X $47.00 an hour
in HRII, not a bad days work, BUT being sence I'd be on the clock I have to
come in the Champ, but thats another story. 8*) Hey the plumbing at APV leaves
a lot to be desired, next time your at APV check out the "stuff" under the sink
in the Mens Handicap stall, handiman and duct tape. Sometimes I get my tongue
shoved so far into my cheek it gets wrapped around my eye teeth and I can't
see what I'm saying. KABONG (GBA)
-------Original Message-------
From: Evan and Megan Johnson <evmeg@snowcrest.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: proseal use
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Evan and Megan Johnson"
<evmeg@snowcrest.net>
OH COME ON!.......Try to have a sense of humor! One thing I have never
claimed to be is a good plumber. Those guys make good money for a
reason.....It wont leak. I do happen to be very good at fuel tank building
though and I thought you guys might get a kick out of this. Gotta use your
resources ya know. If you travel for 47 bucks an hour im in....... :)
Evan.......
Who's going to the fly in in Marysville CA. next weekend?
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: <jhstarn@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: proseal use
> --> RV-List message posted by: jhstarn@earthlink.net
>
> I just love it...after 20+ years in A/C, Plumbing Service business I
love
these stories. Use't to say $47.00 an hour if I do it all. $57.00 if you
watch and say anything. $75.00 if you tried to fix it first. Wait till you
get the bill for total replacement when you attempt to sell the home. If
the
fixtures leak it's 'cause they were #1 the wrong parts to start with OR #2
they were assembled incorrectly OR #3 the gaskets were left out or put in
inverted. (PLEASE tell me you didn't use the white PVC "stuff" from
K-Mart)
KABONG (GBA) 8*)
>
> -------Original Message-------
> From: Evan and Megan Johnson <evmeg@snowcrest.net>
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV-List: proseal use
>
> >
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Evan and Megan Johnson"
> <evmeg@snowcrest.net>
>
> I just found yet another great use for proseal.....as a plumbing
sealant.
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Exit for stick grip wires |
--> RV-List message posted by: N67BT@aol.com
The Infinity grip cable is a little less than 5/16" in diameter. With a
grommet that makes a big hole. I drilled an angled 3/8" hole in the lower stick
segment and welded in a piece of 3/8" 4130 tubing which I had flared at both
ends. That should take care of the stick strength and wire protection issues.
See it at -- http://members.aol.com/n67bt -- scroll down to the archived
photos.
Bob Trumpfheller
Building a RV7A in western Colorado
N67BT (reserved)
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--> RV-List message posted by: kempthornes <kempthornes@earthlink.net>
An old builder told me when I was building my first house that all you had
to know to be a plumber is that shit runs downhill and payday is Friday.
Seems there is more to it than that.
Lady complained to plumber, "You charge more than my doctor". "Yes, I
know", said the plumber, "I used to be a doctor".
hal
At 06:37 PM 6/16/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: jhstarn@earthlink.net
>
>KABONG w/o a sence of humor, ain't never gonna happen. I have traded lots
>of plumbing work for fly time, just ask Gummibear. APV to Marysville X
>$47.00 an hour in HRII, not a bad days work, BUT being sence I'd be on the
>clock I have to come in the Champ, but thats another story. 8*) Hey the
>plumbing at APV leaves a lot to be desired, next time your at APV check
>out the "stuff" under the sink in the Mens Handicap stall, handiman and
>duct tape. Sometimes I get my tongue shoved so far into my cheek it gets
>wrapped around my eye teeth and I can't see what I'm saying. KABONG (GBA)
>-------Original Message-------
>From: Evan and Megan Johnson <evmeg@snowcrest.net>
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV-List: proseal use
>
> >
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Evan and Megan Johnson"
><evmeg@snowcrest.net>
>
>OH COME ON!.......Try to have a sense of humor! One thing I have never
>claimed to be is a good plumber. Those guys make good money for a
>reason.....It wont leak. I do happen to be very good at fuel tank building
>though and I thought you guys might get a kick out of this. Gotta use your
>resources ya know. If you travel for 47 bucks an hour im in....... :)
>
>Evan.......
>
>Who's going to the fly in in Marysville CA. next weekend?
>
>
>do not archive
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <jhstarn@earthlink.net>
>To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: RV-List: proseal use
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: jhstarn@earthlink.net
> >
> > I just love it...after 20+ years in A/C, Plumbing Service business I
>love
>these stories. Use't to say $47.00 an hour if I do it all. $57.00 if you
>watch and say anything. $75.00 if you tried to fix it first. Wait till you
>get the bill for total replacement when you attempt to sell the home. If
>the
>fixtures leak it's 'cause they were #1 the wrong parts to start with OR #2
>they were assembled incorrectly OR #3 the gaskets were left out or put in
>inverted. (PLEASE tell me you didn't use the white PVC "stuff" from
>K-Mart)
>KABONG (GBA) 8*)
> >
> > -------Original Message-------
> > From: Evan and Megan Johnson <evmeg@snowcrest.net>
> > To: rv-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RV-List: proseal use
> >
> > >
> > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Evan and Megan Johnson"
> > <evmeg@snowcrest.net>
> >
> > I just found yet another great use for proseal.....as a plumbing
>sealant.
> >
> >
>
>
> >
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: jhstarn@earthlink.net
Yep, both are right on and if Albert Enstien had listened to his mother he'd have
been a plumber too. The key question to ask a "plumber" is "what are the differances
and sumularities betweewn an upright wye and a combi" if he delays in
his answer he's not a plumber, he's an assembler. Next ask the perfect flow
rate for "stuff" if he's says 2.0 ft per sec. ya got yourself a plumber. (They
are both a combination of a wye and an 1/8 bend) KABONG (GBA) 8+) Do Not Archive
-------Original Message-------
From: kempthornes <kempthornes@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Re: RV-List: proseal use
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: kempthornes <kempthornes@earthlink.net>
An old builder told me when I was building my first house that all you had
to know to be a plumber is that shit runs downhill and payday is Friday.
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Stephenson" <mike@proclaimweb.com>
You forgot the 3rd thing you have to know to be a plumber.
1. Sh*t runs downhill.
2. Don't bite your fingernails. (see #1 above)
3. Payday is Friday.
Regards,
Mike Stephenson
> An old builder told me when I was building my first house that all you had
> to know to be a plumber is that shit runs downhill and payday is Friday.
>
> Seems there is more to it than that.
>
> Lady complained to plumber, "You charge more than my doctor". "Yes, I
> know", said the plumber, "I used to be a doctor".
>
> hal
> At 06:37 PM 6/16/2003 -0700, you wrote:
> >--> RV-List message posted by: jhstarn@earthlink.net
> >
> >KABONG w/o a sence of humor, ain't never gonna happen. I have traded lots
> >of plumbing work for fly time, just ask Gummibear. APV to Marysville X
> >$47.00 an hour in HRII, not a bad days work, BUT being sence I'd be on
the
> >clock I have to come in the Champ, but thats another story. 8*) Hey the
> >plumbing at APV leaves a lot to be desired, next time your at APV check
> >out the "stuff" under the sink in the Mens Handicap stall, handiman and
> >duct tape. Sometimes I get my tongue shoved so far into my cheek it gets
> >wrapped around my eye teeth and I can't see what I'm saying. KABONG
(GBA)
> >-------Original Message-------
> >From: Evan and Megan Johnson <evmeg@snowcrest.net>
> >To: rv-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: Re: RV-List: proseal use
> >
> > >
> > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Evan and Megan Johnson"
> ><evmeg@snowcrest.net>
> >
> >OH COME ON!.......Try to have a sense of humor! One thing I have never
> >claimed to be is a good plumber. Those guys make good money for a
> >reason.....It wont leak. I do happen to be very good at fuel tank
building
> >though and I thought you guys might get a kick out of this. Gotta use
your
> >resources ya know. If you travel for 47 bucks an hour im in....... :)
> >
> >Evan.......
> >
> >Who's going to the fly in in Marysville CA. next weekend?
> >
> >
> >do not archive
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: <jhstarn@earthlink.net>
> >To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: Re: RV-List: proseal use
> >
> >
> > > --> RV-List message posted by: jhstarn@earthlink.net
> > >
> > > I just love it...after 20+ years in A/C, Plumbing Service business I
> >love
> >these stories. Use't to say $47.00 an hour if I do it all. $57.00 if you
> >watch and say anything. $75.00 if you tried to fix it first. Wait till
you
> >get the bill for total replacement when you attempt to sell the home. If
> >the
> >fixtures leak it's 'cause they were #1 the wrong parts to start with OR
#2
> >they were assembled incorrectly OR #3 the gaskets were left out or put in
> >inverted. (PLEASE tell me you didn't use the white PVC "stuff" from
> >K-Mart)
> >KABONG (GBA) 8*)
> > >
> > > -------Original Message-------
> > > From: Evan and Megan Johnson <evmeg@snowcrest.net>
> > > To: rv-list@matronics.com
> > > Subject: RV-List: proseal use
> > >
> > > >
> > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Evan and Megan Johnson"
> > > <evmeg@snowcrest.net>
> > >
> > > I just found yet another great use for proseal.....as a plumbing
> >sealant.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Randall Henderson" <randallh@attbi.com>
> I believe you and I can have a second person in the air plane during the
fly
> off time to record data also.
You definitely can do this. However from what I've read (in EAA and other
sources) the FAA takes a dim view of people who use that as an excuse to do
"transition training" or other dubious 2nd seat activites during the flyoff
period. And your insurance co. may also have their own idea (insurance
types, what's the scoop there?) As with anything you're not likely to get
into trouble unless something goes wrong, but if you don't want to risk
getting caught with your pants down you'll probably want to clear it with
your FSFO or at least be damn sure the mission really is what you say it is,
and that the second-seater is qualified and necessary, and that you can back
it up if need be.
EAA has done some writeups on this -- I recommend checking back issues or
just giving them a call if you really want to know what you can and can't do
in this area.
Randall Henderson, RV-6 N6R (~500 hrs)
Portland, OR
www.vanshomewing.org
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Tom Gummo" <t.gummo@verizon.net>
I have the Sport AOA system in my plane. The directions for calibration
clearly state you need two people to perform this function. It was
calibrated a lot during the test period.
You can't be to careful. :-)
Tom Gummo
Apple Valley, CA
Harmon Rocket II, 130 hours
----- Original Message -----
From: "Randall Henderson" <randallh@attbi.com>
Subject: 2nd seater during flyoff (was Re: RV-List: Re: RV-10)
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Randall Henderson" <randallh@attbi.com>
>
> > I believe you and I can have a second person in the air plane during the
> fly
> > off time to record data also.
>
> You definitely can do this. However from what I've read (in EAA and other
> sources) the FAA takes a dim view of people who use that as an excuse to
do
> "transition training" or other dubious 2nd seat activites during the
flyoff
> period. And your insurance co. may also have their own idea (insurance
> types, what's the scoop there?) As with anything you're not likely to get
> into trouble unless something goes wrong, but if you don't want to risk
> getting caught with your pants down you'll probably want to clear it with
> your FSFO or at least be damn sure the mission really is what you say it
is,
> and that the second-seater is qualified and necessary, and that you can
back
> it up if need be.
>
> EAA has done some writeups on this -- I recommend checking back issues or
> just giving them a call if you really want to know what you can and can't
do
> in this area.
>
> Randall Henderson, RV-6 N6R (~500 hrs)
> Portland, OR
> www.vanshomewing.org
>
>
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