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1. 04:51 AM - Re: proseal use (N13eer@aol.com)
2. 05:41 AM - Re: Re: proseal use (Don)
3. 05:50 AM - Re: Re: proseal use (Gordon or Marge Comfort)
4. 06:16 AM - permanent marker on plexiglass (Wayne Pedersen)
5. 06:28 AM - VM 1000 DPU Location on RV-8 (dag adamson)
6. 06:37 AM - Re: permanent marker on plexiglass (Noel & Yoshie Simmons)
7. 06:39 AM - Re: permanent marker on plexiglass ()
8. 06:46 AM - Re: permanent marker on plexiglass (mstewart@qa.butler.com)
9. 06:47 AM - Re: VM 1000 DPU Location on RV-8 (Scott Bilinski)
10. 07:15 AM - Ride in Harmon Rocket from New England to LA Cal (Harry Paine)
11. 07:25 AM - Re: permanent marker on plexiglass (Schilling Karl)
12. 07:59 AM - Time to Build Wings (Glenn Brasch)
13. 08:46 AM - Re: Time to Build Wings (Scott Bilinski)
14. 09:08 AM - Re: VM 1000 DPU Location on RV-8 (Mike Robertson)
15. 09:20 AM - Re: -A model Towbar (Greg Zuro)
16. 09:36 AM - Re: permanent marker on plexiglass (Patty gillies)
17. 09:40 AM - Re: proseal use (Garry LeGare)
18. 09:49 AM - Re: permanent marker on plexiglass (Jim Jewell)
19. 09:56 AM - Re: proseal (ab)use (klwerner@comcast.net)
20. 09:57 AM - Re: proseal use (Harvey Sigmon)
21. 10:36 AM - Re: proseal use (mstewart@qa.butler.com)
22. 10:36 AM - (czechsix@juno.com)
23. 12:50 PM - Re: Time to Build Wings (Tommy Walker)
24. 01:50 PM - Re: Time to Build Wings (Dana Overall)
25. 02:34 PM - Nashville ? (Mike Stephenson)
26. 02:37 PM - Re: Finally--22DW flies (Charles Rowbotham)
27. 03:37 PM - Re: Panel Decals ... ()
28. 04:53 PM - Re: Nashville ? (John Mcmahon)
29. 05:33 PM - Re: (Jerry Springer)
30. 05:36 PM - Re: RV9-List: Time to Build Wings (Richard E. Tasker)
31. 05:36 PM - Re: RV9-List: Time to Build Wings (Richard E. Tasker)
32. 05:38 PM - Drilling Elevator horn using HS bracket and bearing as guide (LarryRobertHelming)
33. 06:51 PM - Re: VM 1000 DPU Location on RV-8 (Jim Cimino)
34. 07:17 PM - Re: Drilling Elevator horn using HS bracket and bearing as guide (Pat Hatch)
35. 07:59 PM - Re: Finally--22DW flies (Denis Walsh)
36. 10:31 PM - ELT Switch box (son hoang)
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--> RV-List message posted by: N13eer@aol.com
KABONG wrote: perfect flow rate for "stuff" if he's says 2.0 ft per sec.
Well I have been working with some guys on a Lav system for a biz jet and they
claim with their vacuum assisted system they get the "stuff" moving at 100 ft
per sec. Talk about hitting the fan.
Do Not Archive
Alan Kritzman
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Don" <don@dmack.net>
You forgot the 1st thing.
Hot - left, Cold - Right
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Stephenson" <mike@proclaimweb.com>
>
>You forgot the 3rd thing you have to know to be a plumber.
>
>1. Sh*t runs downhill.
>2. Don't bite your fingernails. (see #1 above)
>3. Payday is Friday.
do not archive
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Gordon or Marge Comfort" <gcomfo@tc3net.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Stephenson" <mike@proclaimweb.com>
Subject: Re: Re: RV-List: proseal use
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Stephenson" <mike@proclaimweb.com>
>
> You forgot the 3rd thing you have to know to be a plumber.
>
> 1. Sh*t runs downhill.
> 2. Don't bite your fingernails. (see #1 above)
> 3. Payday is Friday.
>
> Regards,
> Mike Stephenson
You also need to know that "hot's on the left cold's on the right.
Number one is no longer strictly true. We sell pumps that make it go
anywhere you want it to.
Gordon Comfort]
N363GC
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| Subject: | permanent marker on plexiglass |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Wayne Pedersen" <wayne@pedersentransport.com>
I drew a wrong line with a sharpie permanent marker on the wing tip
Plexiglas. Any ideas what I can use to remove it as it is very visible and
will attract allot of questions !
Is there a better marker to use on plexi ?
Wayne
RV7a
Southern Alberta
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| Subject: | VM 1000 DPU Location on RV-8 |
--> RV-List message posted by: dag adamson <dag_adamson@yahoo.com>
Hello-
Any advice, trials, tribulations about where to place
the DPU on an RV-8A?
My thoughts:
- Baggage compartment next to baggage door. (Lose
space for luggage - but easy access)
- Underneath baggage compartment floor - relatively
easy access
- Instrument Subpanel right in the middle above the
brake lines.
Thanks
Dag
=====
*****************
Dag Adamson
617 513 1182
Cambridge, MA
Grand Junction, CO
*****************
__________________________________
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| Subject: | permanent marker on plexiglass |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Noel & Yoshie Simmons" <noel@blueskyaviation.net>
AUTO GAS
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Wayne Pedersen
Subject: RV-List: permanent marker on plexiglass
--> RV-List message posted by: "Wayne Pedersen"
<wayne@pedersentransport.com>
I drew a wrong line with a sharpie permanent marker on the wing tip
Plexiglas. Any ideas what I can use to remove it as it is very visible and
will attract allot of questions !
Is there a better marker to use on plexi ?
Wayne
RV7a
Southern Alberta
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| Subject: | Re: permanent marker on plexiglass |
--> RV-List message posted by: <ktlkrn@cox.net>
Good ol' rubbing alcohol. Sharpies rule!!
Darwin N. Barrie
Chandler AZ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne Pedersen" <wayne@pedersentransport.com>
Subject: RV-List: permanent marker on plexiglass
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Wayne Pedersen"
<wayne@pedersentransport.com>
>
> I drew a wrong line with a sharpie permanent marker on the wing tip
> Plexiglas. Any ideas what I can use to remove it as it is very visible
and
> will attract allot of questions !
> Is there a better marker to use on plexi ?
>
> Wayne
> RV7a
> Southern Alberta
> ---
>
>
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| Subject: | permanent marker on plexiglass |
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--> RV-List message posted by: mstewart@qa.butler.com
MEK, the wonder chemical.
Lightly rub and its gone.
Mike Stewart
-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Pedersen [mailto:wayne@pedersentransport.com]
Subject: RV-List: permanent marker on plexiglass
--> RV-List message posted by: "Wayne Pedersen"
<wayne@pedersentransport.com>
I drew a wrong line with a sharpie permanent marker on the wing tip
Plexiglas. Any ideas what I can use to remove it as it is very visible and
will attract allot of questions !
Is there a better marker to use on plexi ?
Wayne
RV7a
Southern Alberta
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| Subject: | Re: VM 1000 DPU Location on RV-8 |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
I have mine mounted on the sub panel as high as possible. Siince I have a
basic VFR panel there is plenty of room.
At 06:28 AM 6/17/03 -0700, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: dag adamson <dag_adamson@yahoo.com>
>
>Hello-
>
>Any advice, trials, tribulations about where to place
>the DPU on an RV-8A?
>
>My thoughts:
>
>- Baggage compartment next to baggage door. (Lose
>space for luggage - but easy access)
>
>- Underneath baggage compartment floor - relatively
>easy access
>
>- Instrument Subpanel right in the middle above the
>brake lines.
>
>Thanks
>Dag
>
>=====
>*****************
>Dag Adamson
>617 513 1182
>Cambridge, MA
>Grand Junction, CO
>*****************
>
>__________________________________
>
>
Scott Bilinski
Eng dept 305
Phone (858) 657-2536
Pager (858) 502-5190
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| Subject: | Ride in Harmon Rocket from New England to LA Cal |
--> RV-List message posted by: Harry Paine <hpaine@earthlink.net>
I have backseat available in harmon rocket! Pay 1/2 of expenses From Boston
Area to Los Angeles area leaving approx july 9, 10th or 11th be in two days
later. Will be stoping at RV or rocket
overnights.
Call Harry @ 720-639-4583 nites
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| Subject: | permanent marker on plexiglass |
--> RV-List message posted by: Schilling Karl <Karl.Schilling@ssfhs.org>
Do not use MEK on plastic!!!!!!
-----Original Message-----
From: mstewart@qa.butler.com [mailto:mstewart@qa.butler.com]
Subject: RE: RV-List: permanent marker on plexiglass
--> RV-List message posted by: mstewart@qa.butler.com
MEK, the wonder chemical.
Lightly rub and its gone.
Mike Stewart
-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Pedersen [mailto:wayne@pedersentransport.com]
Subject: RV-List: permanent marker on plexiglass
--> RV-List message posted by: "Wayne Pedersen"
<wayne@pedersentransport.com>
I drew a wrong line with a sharpie permanent marker on the wing tip
Plexiglas. Any ideas what I can use to remove it as it is very visible and
will attract allot of questions !
Is there a better marker to use on plexi ?
Wayne
RV7a
Southern Alberta
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| Subject: | Time to Build Wings |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Glenn Brasch" <gbrasch@earthlink.net>
I am trying to make some computations and plans. Can I get a quick reply from
those who have completed wings on which model RV you are doing, if it is a quick
build or not, and approximate numbers of hours to complete the wings? Thanks
in advance, Glenn in Arizona -9A emp.
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| Subject: | Re: Time to Build Wings |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
4 months @ 30 hours a week for slow build 8a wings.
At 08:01 AM 6/17/03 -0700, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Glenn Brasch" <gbrasch@earthlink.net>
>
>I am trying to make some computations and plans. Can I get a quick reply
>from those who have completed wings on which model RV you are doing, if it
>is a quick build or not, and approximate numbers of hours to complete the
>wings? Thanks in advance, Glenn in Arizona -9A emp.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: VM 1000 DPU Location on RV-8 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Robertson" <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
I also mounted tmy DPU on the sub-panel right in line with the opening for
the display. That way I could simply remove the display and be able to see
the DPU to work on the wireing if necessary. As it turned out it was
necessary a couple of times and it worked out great.
Mike Robertson
RV-8A, 6A, 9A
>From: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV-List: VM 1000 DPU Location on RV-8
>Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 06:46:59 -0700
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski
><bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
>
>I have mine mounted on the sub panel as high as possible. Siince I have a
>basic VFR panel there is plenty of room.
>
>
>At 06:28 AM 6/17/03 -0700, you wrote:
> >--> RV-List message posted by: dag adamson <dag_adamson@yahoo.com>
> >
> >Hello-
> >
> >Any advice, trials, tribulations about where to place
> >the DPU on an RV-8A?
> >
> >My thoughts:
> >
> >- Baggage compartment next to baggage door. (Lose
> >space for luggage - but easy access)
> >
> >- Underneath baggage compartment floor - relatively
> >easy access
> >
> >- Instrument Subpanel right in the middle above the
> >brake lines.
> >
> >Thanks
> >Dag
> >
> >=====
> >*****************
> >Dag Adamson
> >617 513 1182
> >Cambridge, MA
> >Grand Junction, CO
> >*****************
> >
> >__________________________________
> >
> >
>
>
>Scott Bilinski
>Eng dept 305
>Phone (858) 657-2536
>Pager (858) 502-5190
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: -A model Towbar |
--> RV-List message posted by: Greg Zuro <gzuro@yahoo.com>
I also bought and tried this towbar from CA. Didn't fit the aperture in
the pant. I went to www.bogert-av.com and am happy with that. It doesn't
fold, but you can cut down the lever and it will fit in the fwd baggage
area nicely. Well made, too.
>I am flying the 8A, plans #80910 , first flew Oct 2002. I bought the
>custom
>towbar from California that does not fit around my wheelpant. I bought
>the
>Deluxe Cessna towbar from Sportys and it works great !!!
>
>Len Leggette RV-8A
__________________________________
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| Subject: | Re: permanent marker on plexiglass |
--> RV-List message posted by: Patty gillies<pgillies@gwm.sc.edu>
Wayne,
Rubbing alcohol will take sharpie marks off.
Patty
SC RV-6 flying
>>> Wayne Pedersen<wayne@pedersentransport.com> 06/17/03 09:16AM >>>
--> RV-List message posted by: "Wayne Pedersen" <wayne@pedersentransport.com>
I drew a wrong line with a sharpie permanent marker on the wing tip
Plexiglas. Any ideas what I can use to remove it as it is very visible and
will attract allot of questions !
Is there a better marker to use on plexi ?
Wayne
RV7a
Southern Alberta
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--> RV-List message posted by: Garry LeGare <versadek@earthlink.net>
So your a plumber, and it appears you think your a good one. Let' see
how good you are.
Are you up to the challenge?
There are three rules you must know to be a Master Plumber.
1.- Shit runs down hill.
2.- Paydays are on friday.
3.- What's the third?
Casper
Journeyman Plumber 1974
Master Plumber 1979
ALL IN JEST
Do not archive this silliness
jhstarn@earthlink.net wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: jhstarn@earthlink.net
>
>I just love it...after 20+ years in A/C, Plumbing Service business I love these
stories. Use't to say $47.00 an hour if I do it all. $57.00 if you watch and
say anything. $75.00 if you tried to fix it first. Wait till you get the bill
for total replacement when you attempt to sell the home. If the fixtures leak
it's 'cause they were #1 the wrong parts to start with OR #2 they were assembled
incorrectly OR #3 the gaskets were left out or put in inverted. (PLEASE tell
me you didn't use the white PVC "stuff" from K-Mart) KABONG (GBA) 8*)
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: permanent marker on plexiglass |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net>
Hi Wayne,
When doing layouts such as you mention I put down masking tape in the areas
that I will be inking.
I have used a bit more masking tape lately but I have spent much less time
trying to get the markings out of the aluminum etc. previous to priming.
There are no marks that have soaked into any kind of materials since I had
this idea that seems to have been so obvious to others.
Jim in Kelowna
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne Pedersen" <wayne@pedersentransport.com>
Subject: RV-List: permanent marker on plexiglass
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Wayne Pedersen"
<wayne@pedersentransport.com>
>
> I drew a wrong line with a sharpie permanent marker on the wing tip
> Plexiglas. Any ideas what I can use to remove it as it is very visible
and
> will attract allot of questions !
> Is there a better marker to use on plexi ?
>
> Wayne
> RV7a
> Southern Alberta
> ---
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: proseal (ab)use |
--> RV-List message posted by: klwerner@comcast.net
And the third one is: " What does this discussion about S**t have anything to do
with this RV-List? "
Please, Do Not Archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Garry LeGare
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: proseal use
--> RV-List message posted by: Garry LeGare <versadek@earthlink.net>
So your a plumber, and it appears you think your a good one. Let' see
how good you are.
Are you up to the challenge?
There are three rules you must know to be a Master Plumber.
1.- Shit runs down hill.
2.- Paydays are on friday.
3.- What's the third?
Casper
Journeyman Plumber 1974
Master Plumber 1979
ALL IN JEST
Do not archive this silliness
jhstarn@earthlink.net wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: jhstarn@earthlink.net
>
>I just love it...after 20+ years in A/C, Plumbing Service business I love these
stories. Use't to say $47.00 an hour if I do it all. $57.00 if you watch and
say anything. $75.00 if you tried to fix it first. Wait till you get the bill
for total replacement when you attempt to sell the home. If the fixtures leak
it's 'cause they were #1 the wrong parts to start with OR #2 they were assembled
incorrectly OR #3 the gaskets were left out or put in inverted. (PLEASE
tell me you didn't use the white PVC "stuff" from K-Mart) KABONG (GBA) 8*)
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Harvey Sigmon" <rv6hes@earthlink.net>
Has anyone use proseal on canopy inside for sealing rivet gaps
Harvey Sigmon RV-6A Flying
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: mstewart@qa.butler.com
Rivet gaps Harvey?
What/where do you mean?
Mike Stewart
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: Harvey Sigmon [mailto:rv6hes@earthlink.net]
Subject: Re: RV-List: proseal use
--> RV-List message posted by: "Harvey Sigmon" <rv6hes@earthlink.net>
Has anyone use proseal on canopy inside for sealing rivet gaps
Harvey Sigmon RV-6A Flying
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: czechsix@juno.com
Guys,
FYI--I asked Vans about drilling holes in control sticks and here's the answer...
--Mark Navratil
Cedar Rapids, Iowa
RV-8A N2D prepping for paint...
------------------------------------------------------
It is almost certainly a lot of talk about nothing.... but you don't say what size
hole?? If it is less than 3/8" in diamter and relatively clean edged, then
no problem...
Tom at Van's
Forwarded by: "Support" <support>
Forwarded to: tomg
Date forwarded: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 06:43:25 -0700
From: <menavrat@rockwellcollins.com>
Subject: Question about drilling stick for wiring
Date sent: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 07:48:37 -0500
Hi,
There's been some recent discussion on the RV-List about the pros and cons
of where/how to drill exit holes for the wiring to a stick grip (see below
for example). I have the Infinity grip on the front stick of my -8A and
the wire bundle is pretty big. I drilled a downward-angled hole just above
the pivot point on the front side of my control stick. Do you guys have
any recommendations on this? Have I significantly weakened my control
stick to the point where failure is a possibility during aggressive
maneuvering like acro, or is all this talk a bunch of worry about nothing?
I didn't see anything in the plans about this, so you might consider adding
some comments about the maximum size a hole can be and where you recommend
locating it for best structural integrity.
Thanks and best regards,
--Mark Navratil, #80583
Cedar Rapids, Iowa
RV-8A N2D prepping for paint....
From: N67BT@aol.com
Subject: RV-List: Exit for stick grip wires
--> RV-List message posted by: N67BT@aol.com
The Infinity grip cable is a little less than 5/16" in diameter. With agrommet
that makes a big hole. I drilled an angled 3/8" hole in the lower stick
segment and welded in a piece of 3/8" 4130 tubing which I had flared at
both
ends. That should take care of the stick strength and wire protection
issues.
See it at -- http://members.aol.com/n67bt -- scroll down to the archived
photos.
Bob Trumpfheller
Building a RV7A in western Colorado
N67BT (reserved)
The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!
Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!
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| Subject: | Re: Time to Build Wings |
Seal-Send-Time: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 14:53:22 -0500
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tommy Walker" <twsurveyor@msn.com>
I had 830 hours on my wings including flaps, ailerons, wing tips and landing lights.
My kit was a skin punched only 6A slooooow build. The new totally pre-punched
wings on the 9A should save 20% or so on time. I think you'll be looking
at around 650 hours.
Tommy
6A finishing
Ridgetop, TN
----- Original Message -----
From: Glenn Brasch
To: rv-list@matronics.com ; rv9-list@matronics.com ; RV-9A@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 10:01 AM
Subject: RV-List: Time to Build Wings
--> RV-List message posted by: "Glenn Brasch" <gbrasch@earthlink.net>
I am trying to make some computations and plans. Can I get a quick reply from
those who have completed wings on which model RV you are doing, if it is a quick
build or not, and approximate numbers of hours to complete the wings? Thanks
in advance, Glenn in Arizona -9A emp.
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| Subject: | Re: Time to Build Wings |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
Finished my 7 pre punched wings. According to my Kitlog Pro, which I kept a
very detailed record on, I had right at 340 hours. That was doing both
wings at the same time. Less than four months at 20 hours per week using
all air everything. If you have to ask what that means, you're not building
an RV:-)
Dana Overall
Richmond, KY
RV-7 slider/fuselage
http://rvflying.tripod.com
do not archive
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Stephenson" <mike@proclaimweb.com>
Anyone building an RV in or around Nashville, TN?
I will be visiting my grandchildren for the next week. I would enjoy seeing
your project.
Regards,
Mike Stephenson
Lubbock, TX
mike@proclaimweb.com
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| Subject: | Re: Finally--22DW flies |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Charles Rowbotham" <crowbotham@hotmail.com>
Doug,
CONGRATULATIONS and WELL DONE !!!!
Chuck & Dave Rowbotham
RV-A
p.s.
Pass along our Congratulations and Well Done to Tom!
>From: "Doug Weiler" <dougweil@pressenter.com>
>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>To: "RV List" <rv-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RV-List: Finally--22DW flies
>Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 07:24:26 -0500
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Weiler" <dougweil@pressenter.com>
>
>Fellow Listers
>
>Well it's only been 12 1/2 years, but I'm happy to report that my RV-4,
>N722DW made its first flight yesterday at Lake Elmo Airport in Minnesota.
>Everything went very well.. the usual requirement for some right rudder
>trim
>and the right wing is a tad heavy. But the new Aerosport 180hp ran perfect
>as we expected. Weather was perfect.. clear and no wind.
>
>And... in addition, one of our other MN Wing members, Tom Berge, flew his
>RV-7A just 90 minutes later (we both had the same DAR making the rounds on
>Sunday afternoon). Tom's flight was uneventful (180 Aerosport with dual
>electronic ignition and a dual electrical systems). Plus it flew perfectly
>straight.. and only a 22 month construction time!!
>
>It was a fun day!!
>
>Doug Weiler,
>pres, MN Wing
>N722DW... flying!!!
>
>
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| Subject: | Panel Decals ... |
--> RV-List message posted by: <sgesele@yahoo.com>
>Time: 05:26:23 PM PST US
>From: "David Schaefer"
>Subject: RV-List: Panel Decals ...
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "David Schaefer"
>
>
>What are folks doing for decals or stenciling for
>the panel switches? I
>don't want to use something like a labeler; I would
>like it as permanent
>as possible.
>
>Regards,
>
>David Schaefer
>RV6-A
David,
I just finished an IFR upgrade in my -6A and
fabricated a new panel. Both myself and another
builder used the following method with excellent
results.
The panel was painted with PPG. It was wet sanded
between coats and after the final coat using a Porter
Cable palm sander with 600 grit. The paint pooled
ever so slightly around the openings. The sanding
removed this material, along with any dust, leaving a
perfectly smooth, but dull finish.
The lettering for the panel was created using MS Word.
This allowed for multiple font sizes. With a simple
cut and paste, an entire 8 1/2 X 11 sheet was filled
with these markings. In the end, I had 3-4 copies of
each required marking on one sheet. This allows for
the mistakes in positioning the words that will
follow. Using a LASER printer, set to its highest
resolution, print out this sheet on decal paper
designed for a laser printer. This is available from
www.micromark.com, 5 sheets for around $6. They also
have a 'blotter' tool for around $3 that helps in
positioning the decals. If you have access to a color
laser printer, then you are not limited to black only
lettering. Just don't use the inkjet version of the
paper, nor an inkjet printer. The letters are then
cut out, 'break' the edge of each rectangle so that
each corner isn't a 90 degree edge, but two 45's very
close together. Soak in water per the directions and
apply to the panel. The blotting tool will make it
easier to position the markings while also helping to
remove excess water. For a straight row (switch
markings, breakers, etc, stretch a fine string across
the panel, raised slightly, to aid in alignment.
After all labels are on, the panel is ready for clear
coat. If you use a regular spray gun and shoot the
entire panel, the clear will form pools around the
decals while providing no coverage in the center of
the decal. To fix this problem, start the clear
process by very lightly airbrushing the clear onto the
decals using a hobby airbrush and many light coats.
When this dries, apply at least two full coats to the
entire panel. After this dries, carefully and lightly
wet sand any imperfections out. Be absolutely sure
that you do not sand through the clear and into the
decals. Finally apply a final coat of clear.
With the clear, the edges of the decals completely
disappear. You are left with a perfectly smooth
panel, whose labels appear to be printed directly on
the paint below. The cost was minimal, and the entire
finishing process from initial paint through the clear
coat took roughly ten to twelve hours of work, spread
over three days.
If have have any questions, just send me an email and
I'd be happy to answer them.
Scott Gesele
N506RV
__________________________________
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--> RV-List message posted by: John Mcmahon <rv6@earthlink.net>
Yep
Mike
I live about 30 miles north of Nashville..
Have RV6 ,working on baffles
John McMahon
2160 Hwy 109 North
Gallatin,Tn
Home=615-452-8742
I am always home after1600
Mike Stephenson wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Stephenson" <mike@proclaimweb.com>
>
>Anyone building an RV in or around Nashville, TN?
>
>I will be visiting my grandchildren for the next week. I would enjoy seeing
>your project.
>
>Regards,
>Mike Stephenson
>Lubbock, TX
>mike@proclaimweb.com
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
Tom is entitled to his opinion, but in my opinion you have made it even worse by
angling the hole. Now you have even thinner edges for a stress crack to develop.
IMO.
do not archive
Jerry
czechsix@juno.com wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: czechsix@juno.com
>
>
> Guys,
>
> FYI--I asked Vans about drilling holes in control sticks and here's the answer...
>
> --Mark Navratil
> Cedar Rapids, Iowa
> RV-8A N2D prepping for paint...
>
> ------------------------------------------------------
>
> It is almost certainly a lot of talk about nothing.... but you don't say what
size hole?? If it is less than 3/8" in diamter and relatively clean edged, then
no problem...
>
> Tom at Van's
>
>
> Forwarded by: "Support" <support>
> Forwarded to: tomg
> Date forwarded: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 06:43:25 -0700
> From: <menavrat@rockwellcollins.com>
> Subject: Question about drilling stick for wiring
> To: support@vansaircraft.com
> Date sent: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 07:48:37 -0500
>
> Hi,
>
> There's been some recent discussion on the RV-List about the pros and cons
> of where/how to drill exit holes for the wiring to a stick grip (see below
> for example). I have the Infinity grip on the front stick of my -8A and
> the wire bundle is pretty big. I drilled a downward-angled hole just above
> the pivot point on the front side of my control stick. Do you guys have
> any recommendations on this? Have I significantly weakened my control
> stick to the point where failure is a possibility during aggressive
> maneuvering like acro, or is all this talk a bunch of worry about nothing?
>
> I didn't see anything in the plans about this, so you might consider adding
> some comments about the maximum size a hole can be and where you recommend
> locating it for best structural integrity.
>
> Thanks and best regards,
>
> --Mark Navratil, #80583
> Cedar Rapids, Iowa
> RV-8A N2D prepping for paint....
>
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| Subject: | Re: RV9-List: Time to Build Wings |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Richard E. Tasker" <retasker@optonline.net>
I haven't finished my wings. I still have to prime and rivet the bottom
skins and finish the tips, but so far I have 290 hours in them.
Dick Tasker, 90573
Glenn Brasch wrote:
>--> RV9-List message posted by: "Glenn Brasch" <gbrasch@earthlink.net>
>
>I am trying to make some computations and plans. Can I get a quick reply from
those who have completed wings on which model RV you are doing, if it is a quick
build or not, and approximate numbers of hours to complete the wings? Thanks
in advance, Glenn in Arizona -9A emp.
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RV9-List: Time to Build Wings |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Richard E. Tasker" <retasker@optonline.net>
I haven't finished my wings (non-quickbuild). I still have to prime and
rivet the bottom skins and finish the tips, but so far I have 290 hours
in them.
Dick Tasker, 90573
Glenn Brasch wrote:
>--> RV9-List message posted by: "Glenn Brasch" <gbrasch@earthlink.net>
>
>I am trying to make some computations and plans. Can I get a quick reply from
those who have completed wings on which model RV you are doing, if it is a quick
build or not, and approximate numbers of hours to complete the wings? Thanks
in advance, Glenn in Arizona -9A emp.
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Drilling Elevator horn using HS bracket and bearing as guide |
--> RV-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" <lhelming@sigecom.net>
RE: Drilling Elevator horn to HS
I can't seem to figure this out. I am mounting empennage and controls for
final fit. Got HS on and fitting elevator to it.
I need to drill the upper AN4 bolt hole in the WD605 elevator horn. This is
shown on page 5PP and 27A. It appears to me to drill the horn using the
VA146 bearing of the HS as a guide.
The 1/4" drill bit does not fit through the VA146 bearing.
How is this drilled correctly?
Larry in Indiana, RV7 Tip-up O-360 3XG reserved.
Working on Finish Kit
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| Subject: | Re: VM 1000 DPU Location on RV-8 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Cimino" <jcimino@echoes.net>
I mounted mine in the baggage compartment next to the altitude encoder.
Easy access. Van's said to mount them behind the display. When you remove
the display you can then access it. I don't use my front baggage
compartment much and like the ease of access.
Jim
James Cimino
RV-8 SN 80039
80+ Hours
570-842-4057
http://www.geocities.com/jcimino.geo/
----- Original Message -----
From: "dag adamson" <dag_adamson@yahoo.com>
Subject: RV-List: VM 1000 DPU Location on RV-8
> --> RV-List message posted by: dag adamson <dag_adamson@yahoo.com>
>
> Hello-
>
> Any advice, trials, tribulations about where to place
> the DPU on an RV-8A?
>
> My thoughts:
>
> - Baggage compartment next to baggage door. (Lose
> space for luggage - but easy access)
>
> - Underneath baggage compartment floor - relatively
> easy access
>
> - Instrument Subpanel right in the middle above the
> brake lines.
>
> Thanks
> Dag
>
> =====
> *****************
> Dag Adamson
> 617 513 1182
> Cambridge, MA
> Grand Junction, CO
> *****************
>
> __________________________________
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Drilling Elevator horn using HS bracket and bearing as guide |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Pat Hatch" <pat_hatch@msn.com>
Larry, you don't want to put a drill through the bearing, this could damage
the bearing. The AN4 bolt should fit through the bearing just fine. What
you need to do it find a short piece of tubing that has outside diameter of
1/4" and find a drill that fits snugly in the inside diameter. This way you
use the short piece of tubing as your drill bushing. Once you drill through
the elevator horn, remove the elevator, enlarge the hole to a C drill, then
use a 1/4" reamer to finish the job.
Pat Hatch
RV-4
RV-6
RV-7 QB (Building)
Vero Beach, FL
----- Original Message -----
From: "LarryRobertHelming" <lhelming@sigecom.net>
Subject: RV-List: Drilling Elevator horn using HS bracket and bearing as
guide
> --> RV-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" <lhelming@sigecom.net>
>
> RE: Drilling Elevator horn to HS
>
> I can't seem to figure this out. I am mounting empennage and controls for
> final fit. Got HS on and fitting elevator to it.
>
> I need to drill the upper AN4 bolt hole in the WD605 elevator horn. This
is
> shown on page 5PP and 27A. It appears to me to drill the horn using the
> VA146 bearing of the HS as a guide.
>
> The 1/4" drill bit does not fit through the VA146 bearing.
>
> How is this drilled correctly?
>
> Larry in Indiana, RV7 Tip-up O-360 3XG reserved.
> Working on Finish Kit
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Finally--22DW flies |
--> RV-List message posted by: Denis Walsh <denis.walsh@attbi.com>
On 6/17/03 15:36, "Charles Rowbotham" <crowbotham@hotmail.com> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Charles Rowbotham" <crowbotham@hotmail.com>
>
> Doug,
>
> CONGRATULATIONS and WELL DONE !!!!
>
> Chuck & Dave Rowbotham
> RV-A
>
> p.s.
>
> Pass along our Congratulations and Well Done to Tom!
>
>
>> From: "Doug Weiler" <dougweil@pressenter.com>
>> Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>> To: "RV List" <rv-list@matronics.com>
>> Subject: RV-List: Finally--22DW flies
>> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 07:24:26 -0500
>>
>> --> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Weiler" <dougweil@pressenter.com>
>>
>> Fellow Listers
>>
>> Well it's only been 12 1/2 years, but I'm happy to report that my RV-4,
>> N722DW made its first flight yesterday at Lake Elmo Airport in Minnesota.
>> Everything went very well.. the usual requirement for some right rudder
>> trim
>> and the right wing is a tad heavy. But the new Aerosport 180hp ran perfect
>> as we expected. Weather was perfect.. clear and no wind.
>>
>> And... in addition, one of our other MN Wing members, Tom Berge, flew his
>> RV-7A just 90 minutes later (we both had the same DAR making the rounds on
>> Sunday afternoon). Tom's flight was uneventful (180 Aerosport with dual
>> electronic ignition and a dual electrical systems). Plus it flew perfectly
>> straight.. and only a 22 month construction time!!
>>
>> It was a fun day!!
>>
>> Doug Weiler,
>> pres, MN Wing
>> N722DW... flying!!!
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Delta Whiskeys RULE
133DW
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--> RV-List message posted by: "son hoang" <son@hoangs.com>
I recall seeing or hearing some where that the remote activation switch is no longer
a requirement for ELT. Can anyone verify or confirm if it is true or false
?
Thanks
Son Hoang-RV6A
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