---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 06/21/03: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:21 AM - Dynon D-10 Encoder Question (N223RV@aol.com) 2. 11:10 AM - Re: Interior paint, Rustoleum Hammered (John Schnebeck) 3. 11:31 AM - RV-8 Accident (BBreckenridge@att.net) 4. 02:24 PM - EGT Thermocouple Locations (Richard Dudley) 5. 02:59 PM - Re: Question about the "P" word (Randall Henderson) 6. 03:15 PM - Re: EGT Thermocouple Locations (Ed Bundy) 7. 03:27 PM - Re: EGT Thermocouple Locations (John Starn) 8. 03:43 PM - Re: RV-8 Accident (DEREK REED) 9. 08:13 PM - Re: RV-8 Accident (Brian Denk) 10. 09:05 PM - thrills and chills - the reason you get an IFR rating (Bob Hassel) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:21:22 AM PST US From: N223RV@aol.com Subject: RV-List: Dynon D-10 Encoder Question --> RV-List message posted by: N223RV@aol.com My Dynon D-10 is supposed to be shipped this week (FYI, I'm order #199). I have a question about the included encoder. Is anyone flying using the Dynon encoder? If so, how does it work (good, bad, needed adjustment, etc.). I am contemplating whether to keep my stand alone encoder, or remove it and just utilize the Dynon's built in encoder. Any thoughts? Thanks Mike Kraus N223RV RV-4 Flying ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 11:10:55 AM PST US From: "John Schnebeck" Subject: Re: RV-List: Interior paint, Rustoleum Hammered --> RV-List message posted by: "John Schnebeck" Test Do not Archive ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:31:45 AM PST US From: BBreckenridge@att.net Subject: RV-List: RV-8 Accident --> RV-List message posted by: BBreckenridge@att.net Dear Listers; I've heard a nasty rumor of the loss of an 8 with one soul on board near Grants Pass, OR. Can anyone confirm? Thanks, Bruce ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:24:43 PM PST US From: Richard Dudley Subject: RV-List: EGT Thermocouple Locations --> RV-List message posted by: Richard Dudley Listers, What is the conventional wisdom for the locations of EGT thermocouples relative to the exhaust flanges? The only post I found in the archives asks the question: "is 1-1/2" from the flange the popular location?" Regards, Richard Dudley -6A FWF ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:59:31 PM PST US From: "Randall Henderson" Subject: Re: RV-List: Question about the "P" word --> RV-List message posted by: "Randall Henderson" > I've read about some builders just priming the mating services of parts > (i.e. the rib flanges and the rivet lines on the skins). Is there anyone > doing this with epoxy primer that "requires" etching and alodining? > > It's seems to be a difficult task to prepare and prime just the rivet > lines on the skins. Is it worth the hassle to do just the rivet lines > and save a little weight? Not in my opinion. Perhaps if you used a self-etching primer (rattle-can marhyde comes to mind) that you could just mask and shoot. But in reality, and as you'll no doubt hear from others (and can see plenty about in the archives) priming the alclad parts is overkill for the most part. I'd say either shoot the whole thing with primer or skip it altogether (exept for the non-alclad parts of course). ('Course I etched, alodyned and primed all my parts with Courtauld's "airliner" epoxy primer before assembly.... but then my plane spends a lot of time parked next to the ocean....) Randall Henderson, RV-6 N6R (~500 hrs) Portland, OR www.vanshomewing.org ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:15:26 PM PST US From: "Ed Bundy" Subject: RE: RV-List: EGT Thermocouple Locations --> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Bundy" Do you already have the thermocouples and/or gauge? The reason I ask is they usually come with information on where to locate them. Different manufacturers specify different locations. The E.I. instructions for example specify a certain distance from the exhaust flange, while (at least some) Westach instructions specify a certain distance from the piston skirt that ends up in a completely different location. If you have thermocouples already, I would ask the manufacturer for their location. Ed Bundy RV6a 600hrs > What is the conventional wisdom for the locations of EGT thermocouples > relative to the exhaust flanges? > > The only post I found in the archives asks the question: "is 1-1/2" from > the flange the popular location?" ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:27:35 PM PST US From: "John Starn" Subject: Re: RV-List: EGT Thermocouple Locations --> RV-List message posted by: "John Starn" On the HRII with custom built exhaust and a VERY tight cowl, we are a little more like 2 1/2 to 3" down stream and on a "flat" part of the tube. Ours are drilled in the very "front" part of the tube. If we had to do it again we'd drill the hole at about 45 degrees angle looking out to make service removal/re-installation easier BUT we have 3 cylinders on each side so the middle one(s) is/are the service problem(s). KABONG (GBA) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Dudley" Subject: RV-List: EGT Thermocouple Locations > What is the conventional wisdom for the locations of EGT thermocouples > relative to the exhaust flanges? > > The only post I found in the archives asks the question: "is 1-1/2" from > the flange the popular location?" ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 03:43:04 PM PST US From: "DEREK REED" Subject: Re: RV-List: RV-8 Accident --> RV-List message posted by: "DEREK REED" Sad to say my friend Farn Reed, did not survive a dead stick landing Friday afternoon in his RV8. He reported engine problems on down wind but didn't quite make the runway. Damage to the craft tore half the left wing off and broke the right wing away from the fuselage. The break away front attach wing bracket did it's job and there was no fire. The cockpit area remained virtually intact, Sad days. Take care you guys, keep those shoulder harnesses tight! Derek Reed [great friend, not related] ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: RV-List: RV-8 Accident > --> RV-List message posted by: BBreckenridge@att.net > > Dear Listers; > I've heard a nasty rumor of the loss of an 8 with one soul on board near Grants > Pass, OR. Can anyone confirm? > Thanks, > Bruce > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:13:43 PM PST US From: "Brian Denk" Subject: Re: RV-List: RV-8 Accident --> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Denk" > >--> RV-List message posted by: "DEREK REED" > >Sad to say my friend Farn Reed, did not survive a dead stick landing Friday >afternoon in his RV8. > He reported engine problems on down wind but didn't quite make the >runway. >Damage to the craft tore half the left wing off and broke the right wing >away from the fuselage. The break away front attach wing bracket did it's >job and there was no fire. >The cockpit area remained virtually intact, > >Sad days. > >Take care you guys, keep those shoulder harnesses tight! This is terrible news. Please people....fly your patterns as if you're a lead GLIDER. Because, someday, YOU MIGHT BE! I swear it's the modern day training....the "fly bomber sized patterns" teachings of the every day low-time, 20 yr old CFI that is getting our collective butts in a ringer. Give me a direct overhead 360 fighter break anyday. But, I digress. My condolences to his family. God speed, Mr. Reed. Brian Denk RV8 N94BD survived a dead stick RV8 landing do not archive ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:05:23 PM PST US From: "Bob Hassel" Subject: RV-List: thrills and chills - the reason you get an IFR rating --> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Hassel" I received this link from the 'Cozy' group via Vance Atkinson in Ft Worth. Everyone should take a listen to this. Bob Hassel RV9 (for now) / RV10 (maybe soon) 8-) http://www.hassel-usa.com =========================================================== If you think an IFR rating isnt worth it listen to this tape..... AND support your local FSS Vance Atkinson EAA Flt & Tech advisor http://www.naats.org/docs/flightassist.mp3