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1. 05:01 AM - Re: RV's and IFR (mstewart@qa.butler.com)
2. 05:53 AM - RV-6A Transition Trainin (Oldsfolks@aol.com)
3. 06:02 AM - Re: Re: [VAF Mailing List] Fixed pitch prop (glenn.williams@businessacft.bombardier.com)
4. 06:06 AM - Re: LED Position Lights Prototype (glenn.williams@businessacft.bombardier.com)
5. 06:18 AM - Re: Lycoming and/or Bendix manuals (glenn.williams@businessacft.bombardier.com)
6. 06:26 AM - Re: Seats (glenn.williams@businessacft.bombardier.com)
7. 07:26 AM - Re: Re: [VAF Mailing List] Fixed pitch prop (Bill VonDane)
8. 08:14 AM - RVs and IFR (Michael J. Robbins)
9. 08:25 AM - Re: LED Position Lights Prototype (Chris W)
10. 08:49 AM - RV's and IFR (John Allen)
11. 08:57 AM - Re: Pre-OshKosh FFI formation Clinic (Doug Rozendaal)
12. 09:48 AM - Random Orbital Sander (Rick Galati)
13. 10:25 AM - Wemac airvents (Paul Brown)
14. 10:57 AM - Re: Movie ()
15. 11:12 AM - Re: Movie ()
16. 01:25 PM - Re: LED Position Lights Prototype (David Carter)
17. 01:38 PM - Re: RV's and IFR (Jim Harper)
18. 02:08 PM - Re: Re: Movie (KostaLewis)
19. 02:22 PM - Re: RV's and IFR (Chuck Weyant)
20. 02:35 PM - Re: RV's and IFR (Jim Harper)
21. 02:39 PM - Re[2]: Re: Movie (RV9)
22. 03:08 PM - Re: Re: Movie (Rob Prior)
23. 03:08 PM - Re: RV-6A Transition Trainin (Rquinn1@aol.com)
24. 03:12 PM - Re: Re[2]: Re: Movie (John Starn)
25. 03:12 PM - Re: Seats (James E. Clark)
26. 03:16 PM - Re: Re: Movie (Terry Watson)
27. 03:17 PM - Re: Re: [VAF Mailing List] Fixed pitch prop (James E. Clark)
28. 03:19 PM - Re: Re: Movie (Canyon)
29. 03:23 PM - Mattituck TMX O/IO-360 (Brad Benson)
30. 03:24 PM - Re: RV-6A Transition Trainin (eregensburg)
31. 03:35 PM - Re: AeroElectric-List: Builder documentation on the Web-summary (David Carter)
32. 03:38 PM - Re: RV's and IFR (Kevin Horton)
33. 03:54 PM - Re: Random Orbital Sander (Richard Lundin)
34. 04:04 PM - Re: Random Orbital Sander (Bill Dube)
35. 04:22 PM - Re: Re: [VAF Mailing List] Fixed pitch prop (RV3)
36. 05:03 PM - Re: Re: AeroElectric-List: Builder documentation on the Web-summary (Jaimes Biard)
37. 05:50 PM - torque wrench (rpmiller)
38. 06:12 PM - T-34 manul for FFI formation Clinic (RV6 Flyer)
39. 07:11 PM - Re: RV's and IFR (Dana Overall)
40. 07:15 PM - LED position lights (Rob W M Shipley)
41. 07:56 PM - Re: Re: [VAF Mailing List] Fixed pitch prop (Brian Denk)
42. 10:22 PM - Re: RV's and IFR (Jeff Bertsch)
43. 11:26 PM - Re: RV's and IFR (Tedd McHenry)
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--> RV-List message posted by: mstewart@qa.butler.com
Jim,
Ditto what Nels Said.
It is quite a work load there is not doubt. I recently put the TruTrak alt
hold in and that has made all the difference for me in my IFR flying. I have
put on over 900 hours in 18 months on my 6A so I fly quite a bit. You will
find that the RV is extremely pitch sensitive. A little turbulence in the
soup and you quickly find yourself with all you can handle to keep alt.
along with everything else goings on. I found at least 60% of my IFR cockpit
time was spent fixated on the alt. alone. The alt. hold has made all the
difference in my workload.
My wing leveler went out a couple months back right when I had a bunch of
trips around the country in her. Had about 10 hours of actual in just a few
days w/o any autopilot. ARGH! It is really tough to do IMO and I would say I
am pretty current and put enough hours on my 6A in IFR. I now will not enter
solid IFR w/o my NavAid functioning any more. It is just too much work for
me. Also no more than Level 2 storms for me. Its all I can handle safely.
That said. With the right equipment, it is a fine IFR plane. You might get a
little wet in the rain. I get beaned on the back of the head in heavy rain
with water that comes in the slider rail in the back. There is no way that I
know of to seal this based on the way the slider functions. Tip ups have
their own issues also when it comes to rain and staying dry. For weather I
prefer the slider for sealing up the cockpit. In my RV I have had statics
ice up, gyro's fail, and lived to tell about it. My keys to solid IFR are
1. 2 axis autopilot
2. Staying current
I would not buy an RV for an IFR commuter. Buy it for the fun sport plane it
is, than can handle the occasional bout with IFR. Don't forget all the cool
people you will meet when you own one.
Mike Stewart
Lawrenceville GA
--> RV-List message posted by: Nels Hanson <pa201950@yahoo.com>
Jim,I have no autopilot but I do have a mechanical
wing leveler. I fly IFR regularly. Practice a lot,have
your maps prepared so you don't do a lot of
searching,and just do it, not a big deal.
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Hassel [mailto:bob@hassel-usa.com]
Subject: RE: RV-List: RV's and IFR
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Harper" <jharper@knology.net>
Hi, all:
I am not an RV owner yet. However, I am very, very interested in buying
a used one, and am diligently searching. The mission I have in mind is
two fold: Taking my lovely lady and myself all over the US on travelin'
light vacations, and (sound of distant trumpets) commuting between
Atlanta (LZU) and Montgomery (MGM).
One of the aspects of this matter that is somewhat concerning is:
Clearly I will need to fly this commute under IFR conditions.not too
often, but regularly, certainly. Accordingly, I need to ask the
question.
Several non-RV folks have suggested that Van's marvelous airplane would
be a dreadful IFR platform, being all sporty and all. I would counter
that responsive is GOOD, and power is GOOD, and speed is GOOD, and as
such, pooh to them! On the other hand, I suppose one would be best
served by coming to this august assemblage.
The question is, then: RV-4, RV-6.good or bad for IFR? I should think
that a wing-leveling autopilot would help, with a full and fancy
autopilot even being better, but you who have flown the RV's in IFR
conditions..good or bad?
I appreciate your imput!
Jim Harper
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| Subject: | RV-6A Transition Trainin |
--> RV-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com
Thanks to JT and John for your response to my request.
My neighbor has located a CFI who owned an RV-6A and is trying to locate an
available plane.
Bob Olds/ for Raymond Wells
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| Subject: | Re: [VAF Mailing List] Fixed pitch prop |
07/08/2003 07:31:26 AM
--> RV-List message posted by: glenn.williams@businessacft.bombardier.com
I believe what he is saying is the sensinich prop is rated to a certain RPM
range and a modified engine might exceed that range.
Glenn Williams
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| Subject: | Re: LED Position Lights Prototype |
07/08/2003 07:36:17 AM
--> RV-List message posted by: glenn.williams@businessacft.bombardier.com
To answer the question about how the L.E.D.'s will hold up under vibration
I will tell you this. On the Challenger business jet we were averaging
about 2.5 landings and the upper tail nav light would be burnt out or
completely shattered due to vibration on the upper tail. Flexjet engineered
an L.E.D. cluster for the upper tail nav light and we have not had one
single burn out yet. I would not reccomend a landing light with L.E.D.'s. I
have not seen any put out the power we need for landing lights as of yet.
Regards
Glenn Williams
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| Subject: | Re: Lycoming and/or Bendix manuals |
07/08/2003 07:47:49 AM
--> RV-List message posted by: glenn.williams@businessacft.bombardier.com
Call VanBortals in Arlington Texas and ask for the Lycoming maintenance
manual along with parts catalogue. ( I would get the service bulletin along
with the A.D. lists as well) cost is about $35.00 for each manual plus
shipping unless they have gone up. The bendix manual is a completly
different manual and Van Bortels may or may not have it but can probably
lead you in the right direction to find one. Their number is
1-800-759-4295. Hope this helps you.
Regards
Glenn Williams
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07/08/2003 07:56:22 AM
--> RV-List message posted by: glenn.williams@businessacft.bombardier.com
I have to agree with some of you about service. It just makes common sense
to let your customers know there is going to be delay. If any of you order
something and it does not show up within a day or two of the promise date
are you on the phone asking where's my stuff? I know I am and if I can't
get a hold of the people I bought the stuff from, my anxiety level gets
raised. All it takes is communication to let me know what the problem/delay
is and I am fine with it. I dont believe in this modern day computer led
world that one on one customer service should be forgotton. And just
dodging someone because your late getting the product out to them is
inviting the consumer to bash your name on list's just like this one. And
on the other hand people will praise great service if they get it on lists
too, am I right?
Glenn Williams
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| Subject: | Re: [VAF Mailing List] Fixed pitch prop |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com>
I believe what Senenich is saying is that the props are designed to work
with an engines particular vibration characteristics, and if you modify the
engine, you change those vibration characteristics...
If you read the FAQ regarding their prop for the O320 it says the RPM
restriction is extremely important due to a tenth order, third mode
vibration above 2600 RPM that can cause catastrophic failure...
I know the O360 prop does not have an RPM restriction, but putting it on an
engine that have different vibration characteristics could change
everything...
This is all just my opinion... Please call Senenich to get the facts!
-Bill VonDane
RV-8A
www.vondane.com
----- Original Message -----
From: <glenn.williams@businessacft.bombardier.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: [VAF Mailing List] Fixed pitch prop
--> RV-List message posted by: glenn.williams@businessacft.bombardier.com
I believe what he is saying is the sensinich prop is rated to a certain RPM
range and a modified engine might exceed that range.
Glenn Williams
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Michael J. Robbins" <michael.j.robbins@verizon.net>
Several non-RV folks have suggested that Van's marvelous airplane would
be a dreadful IFR platform . .
I fly my 8 in "light" IFR. I do have an S-Tec 20 (roll only) which I find
invaluable. The RV is not a stable IFR platform like a Cessna 182, but is
doable if you keep on top of it. It will gain or loose 100' in the blink
of an eye so you have to pay attention. As someone said, you have to
preplan everything, have your charts out and your approaches pretty much
memorized. My Garmin 430 helps a lot too.
Mike Robbins
RV-8 N88MJ 255 hours
Seattle area
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| Subject: | Re: LED Position Lights Prototype |
--> RV-List message posted by: Chris W <chrisw3@cox.net>
glenn.williams@businessacft.bombardier.com wrote:
> I would not reccomend a landing light with L.E.D.'s. I
> have not seen any put out the power we need for landing lights as of yet.
Has anyone seen the Luxeon LEDs yet?
http://www.lumileds.com/luxeon/products/products_index.html
A single Luxeon LED is brighter than several of the high intensity standard
size (5 mm) LEDs that most LED flashlights and other LED products use. They
are also quite a bit more expensive, but the price per lumens of light is about
the same or a little less than standard size LEDs.
I think it is also worth noting that while LEDs are quite a bit more efficient
than standard incandescent light bulbs, they aren't any more efficient than a
good xenon bulb. They will however, obviously last a lot longer than a xenon
bulb. The HID lights are a lot more efficient, but a whole lot more money
too. In a flashlight is where LEDs are a perfect solution. The LEDs are a lot
more durable than a flashlight bulb, the life of an LED is almost unlimited,
LEDs are more efficient than the bulbs in all but the most expensive
flashlights, and an LED will produce useful light after the battery voltage has
dropped too low for an incandescent bulb to put out any useful light.
--
Chris Woodhouse
3147 SW 127th St.
Oklahoma City, OK 73170
405-691-5206
chrisw@programmer.net
N35 20.492'
W97 34.342'
"They that can give up essential liberty
to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Historical Review of Pennsylvania
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--> RV-List message posted by: John Allen <fliier@yahoo.com>
A few weeks ago I posted an eMail to to the So-Cal user group on this subject.
It described my experiences getting IFR current in my RV-6A and also gave my
experiences during a couple of IMC encounters.
It's fairly long so rather than post it here I stuck it on a website. Perhaps it
will give some insight for those planning on flying IFR. Just as background,
I'm an 800 hour pilot with 21 hours actual IMC and 48 hours under the hood.
John Allen
http://www.geocities.com/fliier/IFRTXT.html
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| Subject: | Re: Pre-OshKosh FFI formation Clinic |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com>
I spoke with Stuart McCurdy this morning and he asked that I post this as a
tentative schedule for the weekend.
Arrival Fri 7-25 or Saturday 7-26 by 9:00 am.
Sat 7-26 9:00- 12 Classroom
Sat Afternoon 2 Ship practice flights with experienced pilots
Sun all day 4 Ships flights and qualification flights
Monday Large Formations practice for those qualified and more 4 ship
practice flights
Tues Morning Depart for OSH (possible mass arrival at OSH)
Some may want to depart earlier and that would be fine.
Stu said reading and knowing the T-34 Formation manual should be done prior
to arrival. EAA sells it.
Tailwinds,
Doug Rozendaal
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| Subject: | Random Orbital Sander |
--> RV-List message posted by: Rick Galati <rick6a@yahoo.com>
Im in the market for a palm sized pneumatic random orbital sander. A Sears Craftsman
model goes for $140 and Sears also gets $160 for a Chicago Pneumatic sander
that appears to be a comparable product. Any thoughts as to what I should
look for in a good to high quality R.O.S? Is one brand any better than another?
Rick Galati RV-6A FWF
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Brown" <nightmare@adelphia.net>
Listers
I have some new (not used) aluminum 1/4" Wemac airvents for sale. Chief Aircraft
has then for 148.00. I'll sell them for 100.00 each. Anybody interested?
Thanks Paul
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--> RV-List message posted by: <Jerry2DT@aol.com>
Please see the attached zip file for details.
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--> RV-List message posted by: <phil@petrasoft.net>
Please see the attached zip file for details.
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| Subject: | Re: LED Position Lights Prototype |
--> RV-List message posted by: "David Carter" <dcarter@datarecall.net>
Bill,
The "Whelen lens" is not an issue for those of us who are putting the lights
inside a clear plastic cover that forms the forward outbd corner of the
Van's fiberglass wingtip fairing - the ckt card/LED ass'y could go right in
there without any "redundant" lens.
David Carter
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Dube" <bdube@al.noaa.gov>
Subject: Re: RV-List: LED Position Lights Prototype
> --> RV-List message posted by: Bill Dube <bdube@al.noaa.gov>
>
>
> >
> >We ought to be able to do a "replacement in lieu of" for the incandescent
> >bulbs in the Whelen and Aeroflash tip units.
>
> Other folks have suggested this. There are some issues with
doing
> this. The Whelen lens would probably have to go and be replaced by a clear
> lens. I think Whelen makes a clear lens, but I'm not 100% sure. Otherwise,
> I would have to mold one up. I would also have to figure out how to cram
> all the LEDs in the available space inside the lens, and cram the current
> regulator board inside the remainder of the case. I think it is possible,
> but I would have to actually have a Whelen unit to fit it all up. Since my
> goal was to avoid buying a set of Whelen position lights, I don't own any.
:-)
>
>
<snip> through the roof and drags your wallet with it if you attempt to do
it with
> LEDs. I would suggest HID units as they draw about 1/3 the power as an
> incandescent unit for the same candlepower.
>
> _ /|
> \'o.O' Bill Dube'
> =(___)= bdube@al.noaa.gov
> U
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Harper" <jharper@knology.net>
Hey Mike:
First of all, the commute we are discussing will be from LZU to MGM...so
basically, IMO, not really an IFR commute. Sure, there are gonna be
days, but usually not. I will drive on the big-time thunderbumpers.
'Twill be mostly very early AM, and evenings. You call it, you're more
experienced in the area.
Secondly, hey, wanna show off your plane sometime? Not aviating or
anything, but just let me have a look? I live and work in Montgomery,
but the love of my life is in Duluth, GA...hence the current plan. Would
love to talk to you about it!
Jim Harper
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
mstewart@qa.butler.com
Subject: RE: RV-List: RV's and IFR
--> RV-List message posted by: mstewart@qa.butler.com
Jim,
Ditto what Nels Said.
It is quite a work load there is not doubt. I recently put the TruTrak
alt
hold in and that has made all the difference for me in my IFR flying. I
have
put on over 900 hours in 18 months on my 6A so I fly quite a bit. You
will
find that the RV is extremely pitch sensitive. A little turbulence in
the
soup and you quickly find yourself with all you can handle to keep alt.
along with everything else goings on. I found at least 60% of my IFR
cockpit
time was spent fixated on the alt. alone. The alt. hold has made all
the
difference in my workload.
My wing leveler went out a couple months back right when I had a bunch
of
trips around the country in her. Had about 10 hours of actual in just a
few
days w/o any autopilot. ARGH! It is really tough to do IMO and I would
say I
am pretty current and put enough hours on my 6A in IFR. I now will not
enter
solid IFR w/o my NavAid functioning any more. It is just too much work
for
me. Also no more than Level 2 storms for me. Its all I can handle
safely.
That said. With the right equipment, it is a fine IFR plane. You might
get a
little wet in the rain. I get beaned on the back of the head in heavy
rain
with water that comes in the slider rail in the back. There is no way
that I
know of to seal this based on the way the slider functions. Tip ups have
their own issues also when it comes to rain and staying dry. For weather
I
prefer the slider for sealing up the cockpit. In my RV I have had
statics
ice up, gyro's fail, and lived to tell about it. My keys to solid IFR
are
1. 2 axis autopilot
2. Staying current
I would not buy an RV for an IFR commuter. Buy it for the fun sport
plane it
is, than can handle the occasional bout with IFR. Don't forget all the
cool
people you will meet when you own one.
Mike Stewart
Lawrenceville GA
--> RV-List message posted by: Nels Hanson <pa201950@yahoo.com>
Jim,I have no autopilot but I do have a mechanical
wing leveler. I fly IFR regularly. Practice a lot,have
your maps prepared so you don't do a lot of
searching,and just do it, not a big deal.
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Hassel [mailto:bob@hassel-usa.com]
Subject: RE: RV-List: RV's and IFR
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Harper" <jharper@knology.net>
Hi, all:
I am not an RV owner yet. However, I am very, very interested in buying
a used one, and am diligently searching. The mission I have in mind is
two fold: Taking my lovely lady and myself all over the US on travelin'
light vacations, and (sound of distant trumpets) commuting between
Atlanta (LZU) and Montgomery (MGM).
One of the aspects of this matter that is somewhat concerning is:
Clearly I will need to fly this commute under IFR conditions.not too
often, but regularly, certainly. Accordingly, I need to ask the
question.
Several non-RV folks have suggested that Van's marvelous airplane would
be a dreadful IFR platform, being all sporty and all. I would counter
that responsive is GOOD, and power is GOOD, and speed is GOOD, and as
such, pooh to them! On the other hand, I suppose one would be best
served by coming to this august assemblage.
The question is, then: RV-4, RV-6.good or bad for IFR? I should think
that a wing-leveling autopilot would help, with a full and fancy
autopilot even being better, but you who have flown the RV's in IFR
conditions..good or bad?
I appreciate your imput!
Jim Harper
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--> RV-List message posted by: "KostaLewis" <mikel@dimensional.com>
Hmmmmm. I received about 6 of these posts. Of course, the Zip file was
not allowed by Matt's software. I looked up the alleged sender and he/it
is no one that is a usual poster on the list. Anyone else get one of
these?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
phil@petrasoft.net
Subject: RV-List: Re: Movie
--> RV-List message posted by: <phil@petrasoft.net>
Please see the attached zip file for details.
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| Subject: | Re: RV's and IFR |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Chuck Weyant" <chuck@chuckdirect.com>
Thanks John, that was great...and honest. Appreciated it.
Chuck
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----- Original Message -----
From: "John Allen" <fliier@yahoo.com>
Subject: RV-List: RV's and IFR
> --> RV-List message posted by: John Allen <fliier@yahoo.com>
>
> A few weeks ago I posted an eMail to to the So-Cal user group on this
subject. It described my experiences getting IFR current in my RV-6A and
also gave my experiences during a couple of IMC encounters.
>
> It's fairly long so rather than post it here I stuck it on a website.
Perhaps it will give some insight for those planning on flying IFR. Just as
background, I'm an 800 hour pilot with 21 hours actual IMC and 48 hours
under the hood.
>
> John Allen
>
> http://www.geocities.com/fliier/IFRTXT.html
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Harper" <jharper@knology.net>
Apologies to the list. This message was intended to be off-line. Sorry
Jim Harper
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Harper
Subject: RE: RV-List: RV's and IFR
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Harper" <jharper@knology.net>
Hey Mike:
First of all, the commute we are discussing will be from LZU to MGM...so
basically, IMO, not really an IFR commute. Sure, there are gonna be
days, but usually not. I will drive on the big-time thunderbumpers.
'Twill be mostly very early AM, and evenings. You call it, you're more
experienced in the area.
Secondly, hey, wanna show off your plane sometime? Not aviating or
anything, but just let me have a look? I live and work in Montgomery,
but the love of my life is in Duluth, GA...hence the current plan. Would
love to talk to you about it!
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--> RV-List message posted by: RV9 <rv9@charter.net>
Hello KostaLewis,
Tuesday, July 8, 2003, 4:07:51 PM, you wrote:
-->> RV-List message posted by: "KostaLewis" <mikel@dimensional.com>
K> Hmmmmm. I received about 6 of these posts. Of course, the Zip file was
K> not allowed by Matt's software. I looked up the alleged sender and he/it
K> is no one that is a usual poster on the list. Anyone else get one of
K> these?
It's a virus contained within the zip file. It's going around like
wildfire. Be careful.
For more details see :
http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.sobig.e@mm.html
for details on this virus.
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Steve Mottin
RV-9A Wings
N609RV (Reserved)
Granbury, Texas
K> -----Original Message-----
K> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
K> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
K> phil@petrasoft.net
K> To: Email-Lists@matronics.com
K> Subject: RV-List: Re: Movie
-->> RV-List message posted by: <phil@petrasoft.net>
K> Please see the attached zip file for details.
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--> RV-List message posted by: Rob Prior <rv7@b4.ca>
Yes, and they've been coming in kinda randomly over the last month.
Someone has a spam-bot that's picking email addresses out at random,
filling them in as return addresses, and sending this virus on to
another random destination. Somehow it's found the rv-list, whether
it's polling the archives or how isn't clear.
I'm about 99.9% certain that the message did not originate from the
sender shown in the posting, that address was just chosen at random from
the rv-list archive. Another lister reported that my computer was
infected a while ago, as they got a similar message from my return
address, but mine wasn't infected.
-Rob P
rv7 "at" b4.ca
KostaLewis wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "KostaLewis" <mikel@dimensional.com>
>
> Hmmmmm. I received about 6 of these posts. Of course, the Zip file was
> not allowed by Matt's software. I looked up the alleged sender and he/it
> is no one that is a usual poster on the list. Anyone else get one of
> these?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> phil@petrasoft.net
> To: Email-Lists@matronics.com
> Subject: RV-List: Re: Movie
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: <phil@petrasoft.net>
>
> Please see the attached zip file for details.
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RV-6A Transition Trainin |
--> RV-List message posted by: Rquinn1@aol.com
I am also looking for a CFI to train me in my RV6A in the vicinity of El
Paso, Texas. We expect to be ready to fly in about a month. Any one have any
recommendations?
Thanks
Rollie & Rod
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--> RV-List message posted by: "John Starn" <jhstarn@earthlink.net>
Lots by Kabong & Gummibear. We hit the delete button everytime. No idea on
the source. Do Not Archive. KABONG (GBA) 8*)
----- Original Message -----
From: "RV9" <rv9@charter.net>
Subject: Re[2]: RV-List: Re: Movie
> --> RV-List message posted by: RV9 <rv9@charter.net>
>
> Hello KostaLewis,
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "James E. Clark" <james@nextupventures.com>
Glenn,
I think there is validity in your points BUT ...
I think someone else was simply saying "hey, how about calling the supplier
or emailing the supplier (and insuring that the email went to the right
place) BEFORE telling X thousand people that someone has bad service. [I
note that you said you **WOULD** do just that.]
**MAYBE**, just maybe the product was sent and got lost in the mail. Maybe
and attempt was made to call and they had the wrong number, or address. And
yes, maybe they are just running behind and have not taken the time to call
... yet. In any case, if so there is no way to insure that you *undo* the
***potential*** besmerching of the name of what *may* be a very good vendor.
Also, if those vendors were using this list as their means of primary
communication with customers, then it might be a good thing to rattle their
cage here first but if that is NOT the case, then they may not have a
mechanism to defend themselves (if that is appropriate).
If they had been called and the caller was told to "go pound sand" then I
would very much WANT to hear that here.
In the case of the Orndorff's, (and Avery, Laurentsen (sp?), Sterba, Rose
etc. [all small shops focussed on customers like us]) I have had many **VERY
GOOD** business dealings with them so I already have my opinions. But to
someone new who is just reading this list, they may be turned away from a
very good supplier of services. Most of us lose in that situation.
Just imagine ... notes like that about a 1/2 dozen vendors and one could be
left to believe that what some of believe are some of the best suppliers
around border on being lousy business practitioners.
Often times a little more patience, restraint and outreach goes a long way.
And for the record, I for one, have picked up the phone many a time and
talked to each of the above and **ALWAYS** found them to be responsive.
James
... a **HAPPY** customer
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
> glenn.williams@businessacft.bombardier.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 9:24 AM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV-List: Seats
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: glenn.williams@businessacft.bombardier.com
>
>
> I have to agree with some of you about service. It just makes common sense
> to let your customers know there is going to be delay. If any of you order
> something and it does not show up within a day or two of the promise date
> are you on the phone asking where's my stuff? I know I am and if I can't
> get a hold of the people I bought the stuff from, my anxiety level gets
> raised. All it takes is communication to let me know what the
> problem/delay
> is and I am fine with it. I dont believe in this modern day computer led
> world that one on one customer service should be forgotton. And just
> dodging someone because your late getting the product out to them is
> inviting the consumer to bash your name on list's just like this one. And
> on the other hand people will praise great service if they get it on lists
> too, am I right?
>
> Glenn Williams
> do not archive
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com>
Yes, I received several from different Matronics lists but they weren't all
from the same alleged sender. My guess is someone's virus got ahold of some
of the list addresses and is pumping out viruses under the names of totally
innocent people, and Matt's software is stripping off the attachment making
them harmless. But I'm guessing. I'm sure someone else has a better
understanding of these things. If you get one with my name on it, I didn't
send it!
Terry
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of KostaLewis
Subject: RE: RV-List: Re: Movie
--> RV-List message posted by: "KostaLewis" <mikel@dimensional.com>
Hmmmmm. I received about 6 of these posts. Of course, the Zip file was
not allowed by Matt's software. I looked up the alleged sender and he/it
is no one that is a usual poster on the list. Anyone else get one of
these?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
phil@petrasoft.net
Subject: RV-List: Re: Movie
--> RV-List message posted by: <phil@petrasoft.net>
Please see the attached zip file for details.
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| Subject: | Re: [VAF Mailing List] Fixed pitch prop |
--> RV-List message posted by: "James E. Clark" <james@nextupventures.com>
And another quick note about RPM ...
If your tach is not tied directly to the firing of pulses, then it **MIGHT**
be off a bit.
If you plan to run your RPM up close to the 2600 RPM limits, you might want
to borrow a digital tach and see how many RPM your analog (including Van's
electric one) tach *might* be off.
Under normal circumstances it might not be an issue but I have found ours
(in the RV6) to be off about 50 RPM as compared to the digital tach. Note
that this is < 2% error!. I think the guages are "warranted" to be within 3%
(seems I read that somewhere).
I think that I found a similar error on the tach in my Piper.
Just FYI ...
James
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bill VonDane
> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 10:26 AM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: [VAF Mailing List] Fixed pitch prop
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com>
>
> I believe what Senenich is saying is that the props are designed to work
> with an engines particular vibration characteristics, and if you
> modify the
> engine, you change those vibration characteristics...
>
> If you read the FAQ regarding their prop for the O320 it says the RPM
> restriction is extremely important due to a tenth order, third mode
> vibration above 2600 RPM that can cause catastrophic failure...
>
> I know the O360 prop does not have an RPM restriction, but
> putting it on an
> engine that have different vibration characteristics could change
> everything...
>
> This is all just my opinion... Please call Senenich to get the facts!
>
> -Bill VonDane
> RV-8A
> www.vondane.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <glenn.williams@businessacft.bombardier.com>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: [VAF Mailing List] Fixed pitch prop
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: glenn.williams@businessacft.bombardier.com
>
>
> I believe what he is saying is the sensinich prop is rated to a
> certain RPM
> range and a modified engine might exceed that range.
>
> Glenn Williams
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: Canyon <steve.canyon@verizon.net>
Rob Prior wrote:
>I'm about 99.9% certain that the message did not originate from the
>sender shown in the posting, that address was just chosen at random from
>the rv-list archive. Another lister reported that my computer was
>infected a while ago, as they got a similar message from my return
>address, but mine wasn't infected.
---
These things typical infect some computer and then look in their
address book and start sending out messages in the name of all the
friends there. Of course, anyone receiving it directly is apt to think
it's OK if from a user they probably know, right? And they count on
that. Doesn't have a thing to do with where the sender shown nor does
any other header in the message necessarily accurate -- they can all be
forged except for the last server that handles the message before it
got to you and it may be the virus writers themselves. All bets are off.
Do Not Archive
Steve
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| Subject: | Mattituck TMX O/IO-360 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Brad Benson" <brad@cds-inc.com>
Since I'm planning to buy my engine within the next couple of months, I was happy
to see the recent price drop on the Superior XP-360 - but now I see that Mattituck
has their own line of engines for experimentals, also based on the the
Lycoming 320/360 series:
http://www.mattituck.com/XE%20Program.htm
Furthermore, when coupled with their own "Precision EX" fuel injection system instead
of the Bendix, their 180HP IO-360 with a hollow crank for constant speed
props goes for $19,400. That's pretty tempting, as it's a fair bit less expensive
than a similarly equipped XP-360.
Does anyone have any experience with these engines yet? I guess I'd be surprised
if one has flown in a customer plane yet, but how was the fit/finish? Has
anyone here even seen one yet?
Thanks!
Brad "Sharpie" Benson
RV6AQB underway...
"Please buy my software, it's funding my RV6A project!" - http://www.notamd.com
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| Subject: | Re: RV-6A Transition Trainin |
--> RV-List message posted by: eregensburg <eregensburg@triad.rr.com>
Sorry but I missed the location where the transition training is needed. I
have an RV6A
Ed Regensburg
N925RV - Greensboro, NC
336-275-3009
>On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 08:52:55 -0400 (EDT) Oldsfolks@aol.com wrote.
>--> RV-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com
>
>Thanks to JT and John for your response to my request.
>My neighbor has located a CFI who owned an RV-6A and is trying to locate an
>available plane.
>Bob Olds/ for Raymond Wells
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: AeroElectric-List: Builder documentation on the Web-summary |
--> RV-List message posted by: "David Carter" <dcarter@datarecall.net>
Bob and others who have recently given suggestions on converting .dwg files:
Either export as .wmf & use IRFANview freeware or print to Adobe (or free
trial version of FinePoint's "pdfFactory") which converts whatever you print
in Autocad or Intellicad to .pdf.
The programs are functioning, but NOT giving USEABLE results - details when
"zoom" in on the pdf or wmf conversions.
- In ALL cases (exporting to .wmf and viewing with irfanview, exporting
to .bmp and viewing with "paint", and printing direct from Intellicad to
pdfFactory and saving as .pdf), I get just the level of detail that is
showing in Intellicad when I click "print"
1) If entire schematic (drawing) is showing on screen - but unreadable
until I zoom in - then the wmf and pdf files, when "zoom", are not legible -
no detail.
2) If zoom in in Intellicad so details (wire gauge, pin numbers, etc)
are readable, then "select all" and "print", I only get in the wmf and pdf
files what was showing in the computer screen in Intellicad (a tiny part of
the schematic, not the whole enchilada) The detail is the same as what I
saw in Intellicad, while zoomed in.
At this point, unless someone can point out a basic error in my
"print"keystrokes in Intellicad/Autocad, then I only see one solution for
letting others view my .dwg files for peer review , for sharing ideas, and
for documenting my work on a website:
- That solution is to provide a note to click a nearby link to a
download free CAD viewer that will allow viewing .dwg files, with full zoom
and pan cabability.
I downloaded Bob's CD ( AEC8_0.zip ) and scanned down to the bottom where it
listed the 3 CAD programs (Autocad Lite, Intellicad, and Turbocad 2d Lt.
- Turbocad was the only one of the 3 that was contained in a single
file to download and install, so that would appear to be the preferred
"simplest" way of giving someone access to a free .dwg viewer.
So, if that is to be "our" only method of sharing .dwg files (with entire
schematic/drawing available for pan and zoom) that will show details and not
be "blurred"/unreadable at high magnification, then I need to study how to
create the link to "which" site for downloading Turbocad;
- If I can upload the zipped Turbocad file to my website (assuming it
won't exceed my allowance of disk space on my ISP's server), then it is easy
to do the links.
- If, as I suspect, this will exceed my quota of space, then I'd need a
link to some website for the download.
I just called my ISP - said "No problem, not enforcing the 5mb quota - go
ahead and put it (Turbocad zip file) up."
Unless someone can help me with a simpler way, that is what I will pursue.
- Bob, the version of TC Lite is Feb 2002 - is there likely to be a
later version? Any tips on this?
David Carter
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <bob.nuckolls@cox.net>
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Builder documentation on the Web-summary
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III"
<bob.nuckolls@cox.net>
>
> At 10:47 PM 5/7/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "David Carter"
> ><dcarter@datarecall.net>
> >
> >I received 13 excellent, helpful replies to my request for "how to create
> >drawings, sketches, & tables viewable on a web site". Thank you all.
> >
> >Here's a summary of what I learned:
> >
> >1. Drawings made by CAD programs (Autocad, Intellicad-an Autocad "full
> >features clone" (I have Airplane PDQ which has full Intellicad embedded):
> > a. File, Export to File, in the Save As box navigate to the desired
> > folder, use or change the file name, then go to File Type & scroll down
> > to & select .bmp; that all disappears and you are back in Intellicad
with
> > the "Selection Menu" box popped up - click "select all" then press
> > "Enter" (a non-intuitive response to a command line question) and in a
> > short moment the conversion is completed.
> > b. Then use Paint (MSPAINT) to open the file & immediately Save As a
> > .jpg Everyone with Windows has Microsoft's "Paint" for this
.bmp
> > to .jpg conversion. And everyone with Windows has Kodak's "Imaging"
> > program that views .jpgs, plus .jpg files/images are imbedded directly
> > into aweb page and thus viewable by a browser.
> > (interesting side note: My "Imaging" pgm won't let me save
anything
> > as .jpg . . . weird.)
> >
> >2. Non-cad drawings and sketches (fuel system, simple electrical
> >schematics or wire diagrams, etc)
> > a. Hand draw and color sketches and simply scan them as .jpg files
> > to insert into web page; or,
> > b. Use "Paint" (MSPAINT.EXE in Programs, Accessories) for
Sketches -
> > c. Excel has a "drawing" mode with lots of features.
> > - Another lister several months ago shared how he used Excel to
> > "draw" a very neat electrical schematic.
> > - My impression is that one would be able to "draw" a neater,
> > more detailed drawing than using PAINT - maybe easier, too, since Exel
> > has more drawing features than the rudimentary lines, rectangle, and
> > "free hand with a mouse" of PAINT.
>
> Better yet. Get Adobe Acrobat. It's for sale all over ebay and other
> places on the 'net. Acrobat fools your computer into thinking that
> it is a printer . . . you can "print" to Acrobat and instead of
getting
> paper out of a printer, you get .pdf file on your hard drive.
>
> <snip>
>
> >Other tips (summary listing):
> >1. Eric M. Jones: If you have an interest in CAD, please see
> >http://www.tenlinks.com/CAD/products/free/cad.htm. This is a repository
of
> >all things in free cad, and add-ons too
> >
> >2. Chris Good: Powerpoint has an "export to html" function that creates
> >the pages on the web site.
> >
> >3. Ernest Christley: Try "The Gimp". There is a version for Windo[ws]
> ><snip> It's a Photoshop wannabe, that will cost you exactly $0. You'll
be
> >able to work on the JPG files and do lots of other neat things if you'll
> >just spend a few hours with the included documentation. As a bonus, the
> >JPG files it produces tend to be about 1/4th the size of what my digital
> >camera program produces.
> >
> >4. Dale Smith: "jpeg optimizer" will trim your photos' file size
> >literally to any size you like, all the while showing you in a window
what
> >the downsized picture file looks like! ... it's shareware located for
> >download on CNet at: http://download.com.com/3000-2192-9623164.html
> > - File sizes a third of the original show with almost negligible
> > differences. If it does degrade, just kick it up a few percent. You
> > don't need to re-size most pics down to enjoy the benefits, but cropping
> > out the unneeded always helps keep the filesize in check.
> >
> >5. Rob Housman: Use "FinePrint" to save the file in Adobe Acrobat's pdf
> >format. Go to www.fineprint.com and download the free version of that
> >program. [ This sounds like one to get familiar with. ]
> >
> >6. Dan Checkoway: There are plenty of forums and self-teach web sites
> >out there for web development. See http://www.w3schools.com, for
> >example. [ I went to this and will use it as my primary learning tool
for
> >web stuff.]
> >
> >7. Joshua Siler: Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator, with a tablet input
> >device, are the
> >best ways to do this [sketches]. However they are quite expensive.
> > - Try Paint Shop Pro 8.0 - you can find it at
http://www.download.com
> > . It will let you create an
> >image, and then you can save it as a file format that windows can read.
>
> Our CD Rom has three Autocad compatible drafting programs on
> it. You can download from the website at
> http://216.55.140.222/CD/AEC8_0.zip
> or purchase at http://www.aeroelectric.com/Catalog/AECcatalog.htm
>
> Acrobat reader is free to everybody. Your published works will be
easily
> read and printed. I often publish .jpg photos to .pdf files just to
insure
> the manner in which they are displayed and printed. The REALLY neat
thing
> about going the Adobe route is that Acrobat allows you to edit
multiple
> .pdf files together. For example,
> http://216.55.140.222/temp/Audio_Prelim.pdf
> contains pages of data that were generated on three different
applications:
> Autocad.dwg, camera.jpg, and ECB layout.jpg. I could easily have
included
> pages of word processor text and maybe even pages from a .pdf file
> generated
> by another source. Very, VERY powerful and easy on your readers.
>
> Bob . . .
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RV's and IFR |
--> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorto1537@rogers.com>
>--> RV-List message posted by: John Allen <fliier@yahoo.com>
>
>A few weeks ago I posted an eMail to to the So-Cal user group on
>this subject. It described my experiences getting IFR current in my
>RV-6A and also gave my experiences during a couple of IMC encounters.
>
>It's fairly long so rather than post it here I stuck it on a
>website. Perhaps it will give some insight for those planning on
>flying IFR. Just as background, I'm an 800 hour pilot with 21 hours
>actual IMC and 48 hours under the hood.
>
>John Allen
>
>http://www.geocities.com/fliier/IFRTXT.html
>
Interesting write up. One question: do you consider yourself able to
handle single failures of some of the installed equipment? I assume
the answer for some of the failures would be to use the autopilot
(e.g. AI failure, or vacuum pump failure). What about an autopilot
failure?
--
Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit)
Ottawa, Canada
http://go.phpwebhosting.com/~khorton/rv8/
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| Subject: | Re: Random Orbital Sander |
--> RV-List message posted by: Richard Lundin <rlundin46@yahoo.com>
Not all random orbit sanders are created equal. Cheap
ones use alot of air which is hard on your compressor.
Hot Deals catalog just had a Dynorbital on sale for
$139. They are great sanders. We use them in the stair
building and fixture building companies and they work
great.
Rick
Rv-8 tail done
--- Rick Galati <rick6a@yahoo.com> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Rick Galati
> <rick6a@yahoo.com>
>
>
> Im in the market for a palm sized pneumatic random
> orbital sander. A Sears Craftsman model goes for
> $140 and Sears also gets $160 for a Chicago
> Pneumatic sander that appears to be a comparable
> product. Any thoughts as to what I should look for
> in a good to high quality R.O.S? Is one brand any
> better than another?
>
>
> Rick Galati RV-6A FWF
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| Subject: | Re: Random Orbital Sander |
--> RV-List message posted by: Bill Dube <bdube@al.noaa.gov>
At 09:47 AM 7/8/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Rick Galati <rick6a@yahoo.com>
>
>
>Im in the market for a palm sized pneumatic random orbital sander. A
>Sears Craftsman model goes for $140 and Sears also gets $160 for a Chicago
>Pneumatic sander that appears to be a comparable product. Any thoughts as
>to what I should look for in a good to high quality R.O.S? Is one brand
>any better than another?
I've never had any luck using an orbital sander for finish work.
Pieces of crud get underneath it and make swirly scratches. I use a
pneumatic line sander for 240 and courser (on cars and composites,) and use
a block for finer paper. With the block, the crud seems to escape and not
make scratches.
To answer your question, I would pick a CP product over a
Craftsman without a moment's hesitation.
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| Subject: | Re: [VAF Mailing List] Fixed pitch prop |
--> RV-List message posted by: RV3 <rv3@comcast.net>
>
>
> If you read the FAQ regarding their prop for the O320 it says the RPM
> restriction is extremely important due to a tenth order, third mode
> vibration above 2600 RPM that can cause catastrophic failure...
>
> I know the O360 prop does not have an RPM restriction, but putting it on an
> engine that have different vibration characteristics could change
> everything...
> -Bill VonDane
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
It's worse than that.
Replacing the magnetos on an 0-360 with electronic ignition
variants changes the vibration characteristics sufficiently that the
magneto body of data used for prop certification is not applicable.
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| Subject: | Re: AeroElectric-List: Builder documentation on the Web-summary |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jaimes Biard" <jbiard@charter.net>
You can get the free viewer from AutoDesk at the following link:
http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?siteID=123112&id=837403
Jaimes
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Carter
Subject: RV-List: Re: AeroElectric-List: Builder documentation on the
Web-summary
--> RV-List message posted by: "David Carter" <dcarter@datarecall.net>
Bob and others who have recently given suggestions on converting .dwg
files: Either export as .wmf & use IRFANview freeware or print to Adobe
(or free trial version of FinePoint's "pdfFactory") which converts
whatever you print in Autocad or Intellicad to .pdf.
The programs are functioning, but NOT giving USEABLE results - details
when "zoom" in on the pdf or wmf conversions.
- In ALL cases (exporting to .wmf and viewing with irfanview,
exporting to .bmp and viewing with "paint", and printing direct from
Intellicad to pdfFactory and saving as .pdf), I get just the level of
detail that is showing in Intellicad when I click "print"
1) If entire schematic (drawing) is showing on screen - but
unreadable until I zoom in - then the wmf and pdf files, when "zoom",
are not legible - no detail.
2) If zoom in in Intellicad so details (wire gauge, pin numbers,
etc) are readable, then "select all" and "print", I only get in the wmf
and pdf files what was showing in the computer screen in Intellicad (a
tiny part of the schematic, not the whole enchilada) The detail is the
same as what I saw in Intellicad, while zoomed in.
At this point, unless someone can point out a basic error in my
"print"keystrokes in Intellicad/Autocad, then I only see one solution
for letting others view my .dwg files for peer review , for sharing
ideas, and for documenting my work on a website:
- That solution is to provide a note to click a nearby link to a
download free CAD viewer that will allow viewing .dwg files, with full
zoom and pan cabability.
I downloaded Bob's CD ( AEC8_0.zip ) and scanned down to the bottom
where it listed the 3 CAD programs (Autocad Lite, Intellicad, and
Turbocad 2d Lt.
- Turbocad was the only one of the 3 that was contained in a single
file to download and install, so that would appear to be the preferred
"simplest" way of giving someone access to a free .dwg viewer.
So, if that is to be "our" only method of sharing .dwg files (with
entire schematic/drawing available for pan and zoom) that will show
details and not be "blurred"/unreadable at high magnification, then I
need to study how to create the link to "which" site for downloading
Turbocad;
- If I can upload the zipped Turbocad file to my website (assuming
it won't exceed my allowance of disk space on my ISP's server), then it
is easy to do the links.
- If, as I suspect, this will exceed my quota of space, then I'd
need a link to some website for the download.
I just called my ISP - said "No problem, not enforcing the 5mb quota -
go ahead and put it (Turbocad zip file) up."
Unless someone can help me with a simpler way, that is what I will
pursue.
- Bob, the version of TC Lite is Feb 2002 - is there likely to be a
later version? Any tips on this?
David Carter
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <bob.nuckolls@cox.net>
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Builder documentation on the Web-summary
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III"
<bob.nuckolls@cox.net>
>
> At 10:47 PM 5/7/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "David Carter"
> ><dcarter@datarecall.net>
> >
> >I received 13 excellent, helpful replies to my request for "how to
> >create drawings, sketches, & tables viewable on a web site". Thank
> >you all.
> >
> >Here's a summary of what I learned:
> >
> >1. Drawings made by CAD programs (Autocad, Intellicad-an Autocad
> >"full features clone" (I have Airplane PDQ which has full Intellicad
embedded):
> > a. File, Export to File, in the Save As box navigate to the
> >desired folder, use or change the file name, then go to File Type &
> >scroll down to & select .bmp; that all disappears and you are back
> >in Intellicad
with
> > the "Selection Menu" box popped up - click "select all" then press
> > "Enter" (a non-intuitive response to a command line question) and in
> > a short moment the conversion is completed.
> > b. Then use Paint (MSPAINT) to open the file & immediately Save
As a
> > .jpg Everyone with Windows has Microsoft's "Paint" for this
.bmp
> > to .jpg conversion. And everyone with Windows has Kodak's "Imaging"
> > program that views .jpgs, plus .jpg files/images are imbedded
> > directly into aweb page and thus viewable by a browser.
> > (interesting side note: My "Imaging" pgm won't let me save
anything
> > as .jpg . . . weird.)
> >
> >2. Non-cad drawings and sketches (fuel system, simple electrical
> >schematics or wire diagrams, etc)
> > a. Hand draw and color sketches and simply scan them as .jpg
> >files to insert into web page; or,
> > b. Use "Paint" (MSPAINT.EXE in Programs, Accessories) for
Sketches -
> > c. Excel has a "drawing" mode with lots of features.
> > - Another lister several months ago shared how he used
> > Excel to "draw" a very neat electrical schematic.
> > - My impression is that one would be able to "draw" a
> > neater, more detailed drawing than using PAINT - maybe easier, too,
> > since Exel has more drawing features than the rudimentary lines,
> > rectangle, and "free hand with a mouse" of PAINT.
>
> Better yet. Get Adobe Acrobat. It's for sale all over ebay and
other
> places on the 'net. Acrobat fools your computer into thinking that
> it is a printer . . . you can "print" to Acrobat and instead of
getting
> paper out of a printer, you get .pdf file on your hard drive.
>
> <snip>
>
> >Other tips (summary listing):
> >1. Eric M. Jones: If you have an interest in CAD, please see
> >http://www.tenlinks.com/CAD/products/free/cad.htm. This is a
> >repository
of
> >all things in free cad, and add-ons too
> >
> >2. Chris Good: Powerpoint has an "export to html" function that
> >creates the pages on the web site.
> >
> >3. Ernest Christley: Try "The Gimp". There is a version for
> >Windo[ws] <snip> It's a Photoshop wannabe, that will cost you exactly
> >$0. You'll
be
> >able to work on the JPG files and do lots of other neat things if
> >you'll just spend a few hours with the included documentation. As a
> >bonus, the JPG files it produces tend to be about 1/4th the size of
> >what my digital camera program produces.
> >
> >4. Dale Smith: "jpeg optimizer" will trim your photos' file size
> >literally to any size you like, all the while showing you in a window
what
> >the downsized picture file looks like! ... it's shareware located for
> >download on CNet at: http://download.com.com/3000-2192-9623164.html
> > - File sizes a third of the original show with almost
> >negligible differences. If it does degrade, just kick it up a few
> >percent. You don't need to re-size most pics down to enjoy the
> >benefits, but cropping out the unneeded always helps keep the
> >filesize in check.
> >
> >5. Rob Housman: Use "FinePrint" to save the file in Adobe Acrobat's
pdf
> >format. Go to www.fineprint.com and download the free version of
> >that program. [ This sounds like one to get familiar with. ]
> >
> >6. Dan Checkoway: There are plenty of forums and self-teach web
> >sites out there for web development. See http://www.w3schools.com,
> >for example. [ I went to this and will use it as my primary learning
> >tool
for
> >web stuff.]
> >
> >7. Joshua Siler: Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator, with a tablet
> >input device, are the best ways to do this [sketches]. However they
> >are quite expensive.
> > - Try Paint Shop Pro 8.0 - you can find it at
http://www.download.com
> > . It will let you create an
> >image, and then you can save it as a file format that windows can
> >read.
>
> Our CD Rom has three Autocad compatible drafting programs on
> it. You can download from the website at
> http://216.55.140.222/CD/AEC8_0.zip
> or purchase at http://www.aeroelectric.com/Catalog/AECcatalog.htm
>
> Acrobat reader is free to everybody. Your published works will be
easily
> read and printed. I often publish .jpg photos to .pdf files just
> to
insure
> the manner in which they are displayed and printed. The REALLY
> neat
thing
> about going the Adobe route is that Acrobat allows you to edit
multiple
> .pdf files together. For example,
> http://216.55.140.222/temp/Audio_Prelim.pdf
> contains pages of data that were generated on three different
applications:
> Autocad.dwg, camera.jpg, and ECB layout.jpg. I could easily have
included
> pages of word processor text and maybe even pages from a .pdf file
> generated
> by another source. Very, VERY powerful and easy on your readers.
>
> Bob . . .
>
>
direct advertising on the Matronics Forums.
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--> RV-List message posted by: "rpmiller" <rpmiller@1usa.net>
Did you use a torque wrench on the rib to spar bolts on the wing? (Not the spar
to splice plates, spar to center section bolts.)
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| Subject: | T-34 manul for FFI formation Clinic |
--> RV-List message posted by: "RV6 Flyer" <rv6_flyer@hotmail.com>
Here is the link to the T-34 manual on the EAA web site..
http://shop.eaa.org/html/2warbirds_books.html?cart_id
They can also be purchased from the T-34 Association.
http://www.t-34.com/merchandise.htm
North American Trainer Associaton
http://www.northamericantrainer.org/NATAStore.htm
Builder's Book Store
http://www.buildersbooks.com/formation_flight_manual.htm
If you search the web, you can find more. I purchased and distributed a few
locally that I purchased from the NATA. They were $10 each delivered about
9 months ago.
See you at MCW and Oshkosh.
Gary A. Sobek
"My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell,
1,299 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA
http://SoCAL_WVAF.rvproject.com
http://www.landings.com/evird.acgi$pass*55484760!_h-www.landings.com/_landings/pacflyer/jul6-2003/Jl-54-rv-formation-g.html
----Original Message Follows----
From: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Pre-OshKosh FFI formation Clinic
--> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com>
I spoke with Stuart McCurdy this morning ...
---------- snip --------
Stu said reading and knowing the T-34 Formation manual should be done prior
to arrival. EAA sells it.
Tailwinds,
Doug Rozendaal
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| Subject: | Re: RV's and IFR |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
I'll add a little IFR trick I keep in my airplane............a baseball hat.
When I know I'm going to be hitting the clouds I put the hat on and pull
it down much like a hood. You can still see down but it blocks the soup
coming by and the only thing up is more clouds anyway. I know this has
absolutly nothing to do with RV......but with that full
canopy..............it just might.
For those who have a tendency to get vertigo (I don't but I still like the
hat), this may help out.
I flew the 172 IFR, I fly my Bonanza IFR and I plan on flying my 7 IFR in
2004. I will have my Garmin 430 (supposed to be here tomorrow) coupled to
my TruTrack and will have altitude hold plus VS.
BTW, John great understanding of your ability. Good job.
Dana Overall
Richmond, KY
RV-7 slider/fuselage
Finish kit ordered!! Buying Instruments
http://rvflying.tripod.com
do not archive
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| Subject: | LED position lights |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Rob W M Shipley" <rob@robsglass.com>
"--> RV-List message posted by: Bill Dube <bdube@al.noaa.gov>
Well, after a few delays, including learning how to use the latest
printed circuit board (PCB) design software, the prototype LED position
lights are complete and working perfectly. I tested the finished units and
they put out more than enough light in all directions to meet FAA specs."
Bill,
This sounds like an item I need for my 9A. Have you designed these so that they
may be used with a strobe and taxi/landing light in the wing tip as well?
Most of the setups I've seen with all three use the back wall of the bay for the
taxi light and I'm wondering if there is still enough room with your design
Are you also considering the challenge of the combined strobe and tail light?
A terrific effort more power to you.
Rob
Rob W M Shipley
RV9A N919RV (res) Fuselage
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| Subject: | Re: [VAF Mailing List] Fixed pitch prop |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Denk" <akroguy@hotmail.com>
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: RV3 <rv3@comcast.net>
>
> >
> >
> > If you read the FAQ regarding their prop for the O320 it says the RPM
> > restriction is extremely important due to a tenth order, third mode
> > vibration above 2600 RPM that can cause catastrophic failure...
> >
> > I know the O360 prop does not have an RPM restriction, but putting it on
>an
> > engine that have different vibration characteristics could change
> > everything...
>
> > -Bill VonDane
>
>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>It's worse than that.
>Replacing the magnetos on an 0-360 with electronic ignition
>variants changes the vibration characteristics sufficiently that the
>magneto body of data used for prop certification is not applicable.
>
What about the certified Unison Lasar ignition?
Brian Denk
RV8 N94BD
O-360, 180hp w/ Lightspeed and one mag.
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| Subject: | Re: RV's and IFR |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Bertsch <noms1reqd@yahoo.com>
My IFR question is for tandem seaters....
My RV-4 is well equipped for IFR (GPS, ILS, Century HSI, STEC autopilot, etc.).
However, it is so narrow and space is so limited that I find it very difficult
to use charts, look at maps, and store everything away and still have room
to fly. The Jepp chart binder for Texas is about 4 inches thick all by itself
:|
Question: How do you RV-4 drivers store and keep all your IFR stuff organized?
Jeff Bertsch
John Allen <fliier@yahoo.com> wrote:
--> RV-List message posted by: John Allen
A few weeks ago I posted an eMail to to the So-Cal user group on this subject.
It described my experiences getting IFR current in my RV-6A and also gave my experiences
during a couple of IMC encounters.
It's fairly long so rather than post it here I stuck it on a website. Perhaps it
will give some insight for those planning on flying IFR. Just as background,
I'm an 800 hour pilot with 21 hours actual IMC and 48 hours under the hood.
John Allen
http://www.geocities.com/fliier/IFRTXT.html
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| Subject: | Re: RV's and IFR |
--> RV-List message posted by: Tedd McHenry <tedd@vansairforce.org>
> Question: How do you RV-4 drivers store and keep all your IFR stuff organized?
Jeff:
I've never flown and RV-4 IFR, but you might consider wearing a flight suit.
They're very handy for keeping all your charts and whatnot organized.
Tedd McHenry
Surrey, BC
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