---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 07/09/03: 41 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:09 AM - Hard IFR in RV's (Jim Nolan) 2. 05:30 AM - Re: Seats (glenn williams) 3. 05:42 AM - RV accident in Colorado, from Kirsten Stugart Lacy (Kirsten Lacy) 4. 06:13 AM - Flying RV-6A For Sale (Will Cretsinger) 5. 06:49 AM - Re: RV accident in Colorado, from Kirsten Stugart Lacy (mstewart@qa.butler.com) 6. 06:59 AM - Re: RV accident in Colorado, from Kirsten Stugart Lacy (glenn williams) 7. 07:07 AM - Dimensions of sheared tips? (was: LED position lights) (Bill Dube) 8. 07:16 AM - Re: LED Position Lights Prototype (Bill Dube) 9. 07:44 AM - Re: torque wrench (Patrick Kelley) 10. 08:07 AM - RV's and IFR and cockpit organization (John Allen) 11. 08:50 AM - Re: RV accident in Colorado, from Kirsten Stugart Lacy (Kirsten Lacy) 12. 09:04 AM - Engine installation mistake (Bob Hodgson) 13. 09:37 AM - emailing wrong person my name is terry not kevin (Terry & Linda) 14. 09:37 AM - emailing wrong person (Terry & Linda) 15. 10:30 AM - Formation Clinic Questions (Doug Rozendaal) 16. 11:14 AM - Re: Engine installation mistake (Cy Galley) 17. 11:22 AM - Dynon shipping (Don Mack) 18. 12:15 PM - Re: Seats (bert murillo) 19. 12:28 PM - Re: RV accident in Colorado (janenjoe@juno.com) 20. 12:29 PM - Re: Seats (bert murillo) 21. 12:35 PM - Re: Seats (Jerry Springer) 22. 12:37 PM - rv seats (bert murillo) 23. 12:39 PM - Dynon: BAD ASS (Dan Checkoway) 24. 12:50 PM - Re: rv seats (Jerry Springer) 25. 01:14 PM - Re: Dynon: BAD ASS (Noel & Yoshie Simmons) 26. 01:43 PM - Quick Build vs Slow Build (Dana Overall) 27. 02:15 PM - Re: Quick Build vs Slow Build (Glenn Brasch) 28. 02:35 PM - Milwaukee to Oshkosh (Ken Simmons) 29. 02:40 PM - Re: rv seats (Bill VonDane) 30. 03:45 PM - Re: RV accident in Colorado, from Kirsten Stugart Lacy (Dana Overall) 31. 04:05 PM - cowl round inlet holes (chris m) 32. 04:17 PM - Re: cowl round inlet holes (Bob Hassel) 33. 04:29 PM - Re: cowl round inlet holes () 34. 04:46 PM - Re: cowl round inlet holes (Ken Simmons) 35. 05:07 PM - Re: cowl round inlet holes (Mike Stephenson) 36. 05:32 PM - Re: cowl round inlet holes (Randy Lervold) 37. 06:19 PM - Re: cowl round inlet holes (Bob Hassel) 38. 06:20 PM - Re: cowl round inlet holes (chris m) 39. 06:50 PM - Re: Quick Build vs Slow Build (DANIEL W WATTERS) 40. 11:21 PM - Re: [SoCAL-RVlist] Dynon (son hoang) 41. 11:55 PM - Re: Mattituck TMX O/IO-360 (Vincent Himsl) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:09:35 AM PST US From: "Jim Nolan" Subject: RV-List: Hard IFR in RV's --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Nolan" Listers, The RV's are quite capable of IFR. Especially if that's about all you've flown in the last 1100 hrs. My training in 172's was awkward but I finished up in a Piper 140 and that was more comfortable to maneuver. Some one else touched on a point that was directly related to flying an RV in IFR. Be prepared and have all material organized before you go. Last weekend my wife and I flew to Wings Field, north of Philadelphia. It was hard IFR from BVI and the ceiling was around 1000 ft. I had a clearance that only a commercial pilot would appreciate and they were stacked up going into Wings. The controller kept me in never-never land waiting on my turn. When my turn came it was the GPS 6. I activated the approach but the IAF I was looking for didn't pop up. I immediately told the controller that my GPS had went out. He asked me if I had an ADF and I said yes. I tuned to the NDB without having to look for the identifier, I knew the altitude I could descend to without having to look it up, I knew the approach course was 65 degrees and I knew the NDB was .9 mi from the runway without looking on the approach plate. The controller cleared me for the approach and I busted out about 1180 ft. (right) and made an uneventful NDB approach. The reason I was able to transition to the NDB approach was because I had shot this approach into Wings five times the night before we left for Philadelphia. I shot the approach on my computer using the Microsoft Flight Simulator. The X-Plane software is nice but it doesn't have some of the smaller airports. So my advice is the same as some of the other guy's, be prepared. It's not hard to do IFR if you are. It's only hard if you're unfamiliar with the airplane and unorganized with your procedures. BTW My GPS was right and I had mentally misread the information it was providing me. Jim Nolan N444JN RV4 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:30:32 AM PST US From: glenn williams Subject: RE: RV-List: Seats --> RV-List message posted by: glenn williams good post James: I fully concur. Glenn Williams do not archive --- "James E. Clark" wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "James E. Clark" > > > Glenn, > > I think there is validity in your points BUT ... > > I think someone else was simply saying "hey, how > about calling the supplier > or emailing the supplier (and insuring that the > email went to the right > place) BEFORE telling X thousand people that someone > has bad service. [I > note that you said you **WOULD** do just that.] > > **MAYBE**, just maybe the product was sent and got > lost in the mail. Maybe > and attempt was made to call and they had the wrong > number, or address. And > yes, maybe they are just running behind and have not > taken the time to call > ... yet. In any case, if so there is no way to > insure that you *undo* the > ***potential*** besmerching of the name of what > *may* be a very good vendor. > > Also, if those vendors were using this list as their > means of primary > communication with customers, then it might be a > good thing to rattle their > cage here first but if that is NOT the case, then > they may not have a > mechanism to defend themselves (if that is > appropriate). > > If they had been called and the caller was told to > "go pound sand" then I > would very much WANT to hear that here. > > In the case of the Orndorff's, (and Avery, > Laurentsen (sp?), Sterba, Rose > etc. [all small shops focussed on customers like > us]) I have had many **VERY > GOOD** business dealings with them so I already have > my opinions. But to > someone new who is just reading this list, they may > be turned away from a > very good supplier of services. Most of us lose in > that situation. > > Just imagine ... notes like that about a 1/2 dozen > vendors and one could be > left to believe that what some of believe are some > of the best suppliers > around border on being lousy business practitioners. > > Often times a little more patience, restraint and > outreach goes a long way. > > And for the record, I for one, have picked up the > phone many a time and > talked to each of the above and **ALWAYS** found > them to be responsive. > > > James > ... a **HAPPY** customer > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On > Behalf Of > > glenn.williams@businessacft.bombardier.com > > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 9:24 AM > > To: rv-list@matronics.com > > Subject: RE: RV-List: Seats > > > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: > glenn.williams@businessacft.bombardier.com > > > > > > I have to agree with some of you about service. It > just makes common sense > > to let your customers know there is going to be > delay. If any of you order > > something and it does not show up within a day or > two of the promise date > > are you on the phone asking where's my stuff? I > know I am and if I can't > > get a hold of the people I bought the stuff from, > my anxiety level gets > > raised. All it takes is communication to let me > know what the > > problem/delay > > is and I am fine with it. I dont believe in this > modern day computer led > > world that one on one customer service should be > forgotton. And just > > dodging someone because your late getting the > product out to them is > > inviting the consumer to bash your name on list's > just like this one. And > > on the other hand people will praise great service > if they get it on lists > > too, am I right? > > > > Glenn Williams > > do not archive > > > > > > > > Contributions > any other > Forums. > > latest messages. > List members. > > http://www.matronics.com/subscription > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV-List.htm > http://www.matronics.com/archives > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > > > > ===== Glenn Williams 8A A&P N81GW __________________________________ ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:42:12 AM PST US From: "Kirsten Lacy" Subject: RV-List: RV accident in Colorado, from Kirsten Stugart Lacy --> RV-List message posted by: "Kirsten Lacy" Jim Stugart was my father. =0D =0D I was searching tonight for news on the crash investigation, and I found your message boards. I followed many of the threads for hours, and decided I'd better stop...it could drive me crazy by morning. =0D =0D I would like to give thanks to those who posted such kind messages about Dad those who knew him, were instructed by him, perhaps some Young Eagles out there who are flying today because his love of all things aviation was so contagious. Your condolences and memories are so very much appreciated by our family.=0D =0D I have to say that the second-guessing, back-seat flying as it were, is entirely beyond me. Those of you who knew Jim...well, you know Jim. If there was anything that could have been done on that takeoff, Dad was doing it. Sometimes, there is just that "oh shit" moment, and nothing else. =0D =0D Practice, practice, practice...it's true. My father practiced for 35 years. His skill and precision were second to none. Sometimes, God simply calls us home.=0D =0D We are a family of Aviators, it is not without risk. We know this, and it's all right.=0D =0D Kirsten Stugart Lacy=0D klacy@totalaccess.net ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:13:47 AM PST US From: Will Cretsinger Subject: RV-List: Flying RV-6A For Sale --> RV-List message posted by: Will Cretsinger 1999 RV-6A $42,000, 560 TTAF, Engine 2415 TTSN, 160 HP O-320-H2AD, Sensenich metal prop. Electroair & magneto ignition, EIS 4000 engine/fuel monitor, in panel Skymap II GPS coupled with NavAid autopilot, LightSpeed ANR headsets, Terra com/transponder/encoder. White over red with grey accent, always hangared at Grand Prairie (GPM), Texas Contact me off-list: cretsinger@ticnet.com Will Cretsinger, Arlington, Texas ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:49:48 AM PST US From: mstewart@qa.butler.com Subject: RE: RV-List: RV accident in Colorado, from Kirsten Stugart Lacy tests=AWL,BAYES_01,NO_REAL_NAME,ORIGINAL_MESSAGE, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=ham version=2.53 --> RV-List message posted by: mstewart@qa.butler.com Boy Kirsten, It was extremely thoughtful for you to make a post to us. We all ramble on about things here on this rv list. We all think we know about this or that. But a post like yours is simply moving and very appreciated and certainly you DO know what you are talking about. In this time of healing for your family, it matters a lot to us that his family knows the love of aviation and is 'all right' with it. We could not as pilots ask for anything more. That you took the time to read our ramblings, and respond to us, also shows your appreciation for your fathers love of flight. We all thank you. Thank you Kirsten, Mike Stewart 6A pilot who only met your father a couple of times. Do not archive. The original is perfect. -----Original Message----- From: Kirsten Lacy [mailto:klacy@totalaccess.net] Subject: RV-List: RV accident in Colorado, from Kirsten Stugart Lacy --> RV-List message posted by: "Kirsten Lacy" Jim Stugart was my father. =0D =0D I was searching tonight for news on the crash investigation, and I found your message boards. I followed many of the threads for hours, and decided I'd better stop...it could drive me crazy by morning. =0D =0D I would like to give thanks to those who posted such kind messages about Dad those who knew him, were instructed by him, perhaps some Young Eagles out there who are flying today because his love of all things aviation was so contagious. Your condolences and memories are so very much appreciated by our family.=0D =0D I have to say that the second-guessing, back-seat flying as it were, is entirely beyond me. Those of you who knew Jim...well, you know Jim. If there was anything that could have been done on that takeoff, Dad was doing it. Sometimes, there is just that "oh shit" moment, and nothing else. =0D =0D Practice, practice, practice...it's true. My father practiced for 35 years. His skill and precision were second to none. Sometimes, God simply calls us home.=0D =0D We are a family of Aviators, it is not without risk. We know this, and it's all right.=0D =0D Kirsten Stugart Lacy=0D klacy@totalaccess.net ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:59:19 AM PST US From: glenn williams Subject: Re: RV-List: RV accident in Colorado, from Kirsten Stugart Lacy --> RV-List message posted by: glenn williams Kirsten: I wish you all the best in the future. From your statement I wish I knew you personally and wish you could talk to my wife and explain your feelings about flying to her. She is not supportive of my flying at all. Again my condolences to you and your family on your loss. Regards Glenn Williams do not archive --- Kirsten Lacy wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Kirsten Lacy" > > > Jim Stugart was my father. =0D > =0D > I was searching tonight for news on the crash > investigation, and I found > your message boards. I followed many of the threads > for hours, and decided > I'd better stop...it could drive me crazy by > morning. =0D > =0D > I would like to give thanks to those who posted such > kind messages about Dad > those who knew him, were instructed by him, perhaps > some Young Eagles out > there who are flying today because his love of all > things aviation was so > contagious. Your condolences and memories are so > very much appreciated by > our family.=0D > =0D > I have to say that the second-guessing, back-seat > flying as it were, is > entirely beyond me. Those of you who knew > Jim...well, you know Jim. If > there was anything that could have been done on that > takeoff, Dad was doing > it. Sometimes, there is just that "oh shit" moment, > and nothing else. =0D > =0D > Practice, practice, practice...it's true. My father > practiced for 35 years. > His skill and precision were second to none. > Sometimes, God simply calls > us home.=0D > =0D > We are a family of Aviators, it is not without risk. > We know this, and it's > all right.=0D > =0D > Kirsten Stugart Lacy=0D > klacy@totalaccess.net > > > > Contributions > any other > Forums. > > latest messages. > List members. > > http://www.matronics.com/subscription > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV-List.htm > http://www.matronics.com/archives > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > > > > ===== Glenn Williams 8A A&P N81GW __________________________________ ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:07:49 AM PST US From: Bill Dube Subject: RV-List: Dimensions of sheared tips? (was: LED position lights) --> RV-List message posted by: Bill Dube > >Bill, >This sounds like an item I need for my 9A. Have you designed these so >that they may be used with a strobe and taxi/landing light in the wing tip >as well? >Most of the setups I've seen with all three use the back wall of the bay >for the taxi light and I'm wondering if there is still enough room with >your design >>>>>> Proposed LED board size <<<<<< At the moment, the plan is to make the board tall and thin to fit in the corner against the aft wall. I'm going to try to locate all the forward-facing LEDs on the top and bottom and then put the regulator section and the sideward facing LEDs in the center area. In this way, I hope to make the unit "look around" a strobe placed in the center of the front wall of the sheared tip. Also, I'm hoping to leave enough space outboard for Bill VonDane's landing light fixture. >>>>>> Sheared tip interior dimensions???? <<<<<< Along those lines, are the interior dimensions of the sheared tips the same (or at least similar) on all models? I need to know the height of the corner and the width of the aft surface for each model so I can make sure the board will fit them all. >Are you also considering the challenge of the combined strobe and tail light? Not at the moment, but Bill VonDane is working on some sort of strobe system. Maybe he will figure out a nifty package deal that has a strobe, landing light, and my LED position lights. :-) ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:16:23 AM PST US From: Bill Dube Subject: Re: RV-List: LED Position Lights Prototype --> RV-List message posted by: Bill Dube At 03:25 PM 7/8/2003 -0500, you wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "David Carter" > >Bill, > >The "Whelen lens" is not an issue for those of us who are putting the lights >inside a clear plastic cover that forms the forward outbd corner of the >Van's fiberglass wingtip fairing - the ckt card/LED ass'y could go right in >there without any "redundant" lens. Quite true. That's exactly what I'm doing. Some folks want something weatherproof for planes without the sheared tips, ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:44:16 AM PST US From: "Patrick Kelley" Subject: RE: RV-List: torque wrench --> RV-List message posted by: "Patrick Kelley" Yes. I started off by tightening them with box wrenches and then went back at final assembly and used a click wrench and was horrified to find that all the bolts were over-tight. As an aside, I had never used a click wrench before - only dial wrenches - so I just about destroyed the first bolt waiting for the wrench to limit the torque; I thought it would simply quit turning at the proper torque. Now I know better; building is truly a learning experience. Since many of the bolts had been tightened to about twice the recommended torque (and I assumed that the others had been overtightened during fabrication), I replaced all the rib bolts and tightened them using the torque wrench to proper torque just to be safe. I've seen in the archives a joke about tightening the bolts 'til they start to fail, then backing off a turn - I'm not sure how much overtightening would be necessary to cause the bolts to fail and I don't want to find out, especially with the hard-to-reach rib bolts. Patrick Kelley - RV-6A - Fuselage fabrication continues -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rpmiller Subject: RV-List: torque wrench --> RV-List message posted by: "rpmiller" Did you use a torque wrench on the rib to spar bolts on the wing? (Not the spar to splice plates, spar to center section bolts.) ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:07:28 AM PST US From: John Allen Subject: RV-List: RV's and IFR and cockpit organization --> RV-List message posted by: John Allen Kevin, Since the A/P is not coupled to the vacuum system I consider it backup for vacuum gyro failure. I do have alternate static in the airplane. With respect to autopilot failure, I did almost all my IFR proficiency training without the use of the A/P so I know I can fly without one (though none of that flying was in actual IMC) Here in LA most of the IFR work from Spring through Fall is through a fairly benign marine layer. In that case there is always the option of asking for a climb to VFR, then going over to one of the high desert airports. In the colder months the problem is that the freezing level often drops below the MEA's. (LA is ringed by mountains up to 10,000') Then I just go to the movies. With respect to someone's question about cockpit organization, I work with NOS charts in bound form. Using Avery labels I create tabs on them for each airport on the flight plan. The NOS plates fit on a small flat clipboard. The charts are loose and inserted at the side of the seat. For writing clearances I use large post-it notes on a kneeboard. John Allen Interesting write up. One question: do you consider yourself able to handle single failures of some of the installed equipment? I assume the answer for some of the failures would be to use the autopilot (e.g. AI failure, or vacuum pump failure). What about an autopilot failure? -- Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit) Ottawa, Canada http://go.phpwebhosting.com/~khorton/rv8/ --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:50:24 AM PST US From: "Kirsten Lacy" Subject: Re: RV-List: RV accident in Colorado, from Kirsten Stugart Lacy --> RV-List message posted by: "Kirsten Lacy" Glenn, thank you so much.=0D =0D I wish I could give you the magic words that would help your wife to understand. She obviously loves you, and for some I'm sure the risks are not worth it.=0D =0D Flight was always just a given when I was growing up. lol, as a teenager, if I needed nail polish remover I got a baby jar of acetone from the garage. I can't even remember a Thanksgiving when there wasn't an airplane wing in the dining room.=0D =0D One of the strangest things for me in all of this, I never in a million years expected that my Dad would die in a plane crash. Never crossed my mind.=0D =0D Glenn, thank you again and take care.=0D =0D Kirsten=0D =0D =0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: rv-list@matronics.com=0D Subject: Re: RV-List: RV accident in Colorado, from Kirsten Stugart Lacy=0D =0D --> RV-List message posted by: glenn williams =0D =0D Kirsten:=0D =0D I wish you all the best in the future. From your=0D statement I wish I knew you personally and wish you=0D could talk to my wife and explain your feelings about=0D flying to her. She is not supportive of my flying at=0D all. Again my condolences to you and your family on=0D your loss.=0D =0D Regards=0D Glenn Williams=0D =0D do not archive=0D =0D --- Kirsten Lacy wrote:=0D > --> RV-List message posted by: "Kirsten Lacy"=0D > =0D > =0D > Jim Stugart was my father. 0D=0D > 0D=0D > I was searching tonight for news on the crash=0D > investigation, and I found=0D > your message boards. I followed many of the threads=0D > for hours, and decided=0D > I'd better stop...it could drive me crazy by=0D > morning. 0D=0D > 0D=0D > I would like to give thanks to those who posted such=0D > kind messages about Dad=0D > those who knew him, were instructed by him, perhaps=0D > some Young Eagles out=0D > there who are flying today because his love of all=0D > things aviation was so=0D > contagious. Your condolences and memories are so=0D > very much appreciated by=0D > our family.0D=0D > 0D=0D > I have to say that the second-guessing, back-seat=0D > flying as it were, is=0D > entirely beyond me. Those of you who knew=0D > Jim...well, you know Jim. If=0D > there was anything that could have been done on that=0D > takeoff, Dad was doing=0D > it. Sometimes, there is just that "oh shit" moment,=0D > and nothing else. 0D=0D > 0D=0D > Practice, practice, practice...it's true. My father=0D > practiced for 35 years.=0D > His skill and precision were second to none. =0D > Sometimes, God simply calls=0D > us home.0D=0D > 0D=0D > We are a family of Aviators, it is not without risk.=0D > We know this, and it's=0D > all right.0D=0D > 0D=0D > Kirsten Stugart Lacy0D=0D > klacy@totalaccess.net=0D > =0D > =0D >=0D > Contributions=0D > any other=0D > Forums.=0D >=0D > latest messages.=0D > List members.=0D >=0D > http://www.matronics.com/subscription=0D > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV-List.htm=0D > http://www.matronics.com/archives=0D > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare=0D > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists=0D >=0D > =0D > =0D > =0D > =0D =0D =0D =0D Glenn Williams=0D 8A=0D A&P=0D N81GW=0D =0D __________________________________=0D =0D =0D =0D =0D =0D =0D =0D =2E ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:04:21 AM PST US From: "Bob Hodgson" Subject: RV-List: Engine installation mistake --> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Hodgson" Hi List, This is not directly RV-related but may be relevant for some installations. I belong to a syndicate operating a Socata TB10 with a Lyc 0-360-A1AD. The maintenance outfit finishing the annual connected the SCAT hoses wrongly; from rear baffle behind cyl #3 to cabin 'warm' air inlet, and from exhaust muff to carburettor (!) Consequently for about 5 hrs after we got it back it was running in hot air and of course the performance was rubbish. (Never was very good compared to the average RV, anyway!) A senior instructor said he 'heard' detonation in the engine and predicted the pistons would be fried, but all the engineers we've consulted say very unlikely. I always thought it was impossible to hear in a light aircraft due to the noise level. But: 1 Checking carb heat on runup still gave power reduction on selecting hot air (only 50 rpm or so), so presumably the air from the exhaust muff was still a bit cooler than the 'proper' hot air. 2 Air that should be going to the cabin presumably cannot be so hot as to fry the engine if sent by mistake to the carb? Of course the maintenance company were very embarrassed and flew down immediately to put the hoses back in the correct position (rear baffle to carb inlet, and exhaust muff to cabin). Because of the dire warnings from the instructor, we got them (and an independent engineer) to also do a borescope check in the cylinders. All fine they say - cylinders very clean. Questions - 1 Could connecting the hoses in this way really cause a problem like detonation? 2 Is lack of carbon always a good thing - the Sac.Skyranch book says lack of carbon may be a sign of detonation having taken place . . . 3 If it wasn't detonation, what could it have been? I'm reading the Skyranch book again for guidance, but do the engine gurus on the list have anything comforting or otherwise to say on this? Thanks a lot Bob H (UK) RV3B - nearly on gear! ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 09:37:35 AM PST US From: "Terry & Linda" Subject: RV-List: emailing wrong person my name is terry not kevin --> RV-List message posted by: "Terry & Linda" ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Allen" Subject: RV-List: RV's and IFR and cockpit organization > --> RV-List message posted by: John Allen > > Kevin, > > Since the A/P is not coupled to the vacuum system I consider it backup for vacuum gyro failure. I do have alternate static in the airplane. > > With respect to autopilot failure, I did almost all my IFR proficiency training without the use of the A/P so I know I can fly without one (though none of that flying was in actual IMC) Here in LA most of the IFR work from Spring through Fall is through a fairly benign marine layer. In that case there is always the option of asking for a climb to VFR, then going over to one of the high desert airports. > > In the colder months the problem is that the freezing level often drops below the MEA's. (LA is ringed by mountains up to 10,000') Then I just go to the movies. > > With respect to someone's question about cockpit organization, I work with NOS charts in bound form. Using Avery labels I create tabs on them for each airport on the flight plan. The NOS plates fit on a small flat clipboard. The charts are loose and inserted at the side of the seat. For writing clearances I use large post-it notes on a kneeboard. > > > John Allen > > > Interesting write up. One question: do you consider yourself able to > handle single failures of some of the installed equipment? I assume > the answer for some of the failures would be to use the autopilot > (e.g. AI failure, or vacuum pump failure). What about an autopilot > failure? > -- > Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit) > Ottawa, Canada > http://go.phpwebhosting.com/~khorton/rv8/ > > > --------------------------------- > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 09:37:56 AM PST US From: "Terry & Linda" Subject: RV-List: emailing wrong person --> RV-List message posted by: "Terry & Linda" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Kelley" Subject: RE: RV-List: torque wrench > --> RV-List message posted by: "Patrick Kelley" > > Yes. > > I started off by tightening them with box wrenches and then went back at > final assembly and used a click wrench and was horrified to find that > all the bolts were over-tight. As an aside, I had never used a click > wrench before - only dial wrenches - so I just about destroyed the first > bolt waiting for the wrench to limit the torque; I thought it would > simply quit turning at the proper torque. Now I know better; building > is truly a learning experience. Since many of the bolts had been > tightened to about twice the recommended torque (and I assumed that the > others had been overtightened during fabrication), I replaced all the > rib bolts and tightened them using the torque wrench to proper torque > just to be safe. I've seen in the archives a joke about tightening the > bolts 'til they start to fail, then backing off a turn - I'm not sure > how much overtightening would be necessary to cause the bolts to fail > and I don't want to find out, especially with the hard-to-reach rib > bolts. > > Patrick Kelley - RV-6A - Fuselage fabrication continues > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rpmiller > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV-List: torque wrench > > --> RV-List message posted by: "rpmiller" > > Did you use a torque wrench on the rib to spar bolts on the wing? (Not > the spar to splice plates, spar to center section bolts.) > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 10:30:25 AM PST US From: "Doug Rozendaal" Subject: RV-List: Formation Clinic Questions --> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Rozendaal" All, I have received several reservations for the Formation Clinic at MCW and some questions, I will answer them here for the benefit of all. Can 2 pilots fly one airplane? Yes (not at the same time ;-) ) My airplane has a small engine and is slower than most RV's can I still participate? Yes, the flight lead should use a power setting that allows the slowest airplane in the group to have some room to work. Can I leave early? Yes You can participate in as much or as little as you have time for, or are comfortable with. Saturday will be primarily 2 ship practice pairing newer folks with experienced people. Sunday will focus on 4 ships for those that are ready for that and checkflights. Monday will be focused on the large formations but there will most likely be folks around willing to fly if someone wants to go and practice 2 or 4 ships all weekend. I will post more information as it becomes available. Tailwinds, Doug Rozendaal PS tell your spouse that The Clear Lake Arts Council has one of the best juried Art Sales in the Midwest that weekend. Fed Ex is right across the hiway from the airport and can ship home the treasures! You thought airplane parts were expensive.... ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 11:14:02 AM PST US From: "Cy Galley" Subject: Re: RV-List: Engine installation mistake --> RV-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" I believe it is no worse than running your engine with carb heat. Reduced power but nothing more. It was running rich as hot air is less dense for the same amount of gas. Cy Galley, TC - Chair, Emergency Aircraft Repair, Oshkosh Editor, EAA Safety Programs cgalley@qcbc.org or experimenter@eaa.org Always looking for articles for the Experimenter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Hodgson" Subject: RV-List: Engine installation mistake > --> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Hodgson" > > Hi List, > This is not directly RV-related but may be relevant for some installations. > > I belong to a syndicate operating a Socata TB10 with a Lyc 0-360-A1AD. The maintenance outfit finishing the annual connected the SCAT hoses wrongly; from rear baffle behind cyl #3 to cabin 'warm' air inlet, and from exhaust muff to carburettor (!) Consequently for about 5 hrs after we got it back it was running in hot air and of course the performance was rubbish. (Never was very good compared to the average RV, anyway!) > > A senior instructor said he 'heard' detonation in the engine and predicted the pistons would be fried, but all the engineers we've consulted say very unlikely. I always thought it was impossible to hear in a light aircraft due to the noise level. > But: > 1 Checking carb heat on runup still gave power reduction on selecting hot air (only 50 rpm or so), so presumably the air from the exhaust muff was still a bit cooler than the 'proper' hot air. > 2 Air that should be going to the cabin presumably cannot be so hot as to fry the engine if sent by mistake to the carb? > > Of course the maintenance company were very embarrassed and flew down immediately to put the hoses back in the correct position (rear baffle to carb inlet, and exhaust muff to cabin). Because of the dire warnings from the instructor, we got them (and an independent engineer) to also do a borescope check in the cylinders. All fine they say - cylinders very clean. > > Questions - > 1 Could connecting the hoses in this way really cause a problem like detonation? > 2 Is lack of carbon always a good thing - the Sac.Skyranch book says lack of carbon may be a sign of detonation having taken place . . . > 3 If it wasn't detonation, what could it have been? > > I'm reading the Skyranch book again for guidance, but do the engine gurus on the list have anything comforting or otherwise to say on this? > Thanks a lot > > Bob H (UK) > RV3B - nearly on gear! > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 11:22:36 AM PST US From: "Don Mack" Subject: RV-List: Dynon shipping --> RV-List message posted by: "Don Mack" For those on the Dynon wait list. They just called to ship mine today. Originally they told me it would be late August, early September. My sales order number is 269. Don Mack RV-6A Paneling Www.dmack.net ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 12:15:09 PM PST US From: " bert murillo" Subject: RE: RV-List: Seats --> RV-List message posted by: " bert murillo" And I fully concur also bert do not archive Sign up for Internet Service under $10 dollars a month, at http://isp.BlueLight.com ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 12:28:57 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV-List: RV accident in Colorado From: janenjoe@juno.com --> RV-List message posted by: janenjoe@juno.com No one is looking forward to dying,,,,,,,but.........we all are going some day........an airplane is as good as any.....and probably better than most.........but.........a persons chances are better of dying in your sleep than an airplane, at least thats what the number crunchers say........anyway, I just buried my wife and I would much rather her death had been by airplane than "C", she loved flying..... Joe The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 12:29:01 PM PST US From: " bert murillo" Subject: RE: RV-List: Seats --> RV-List message posted by: " bert murillo" James good points too, however, today society is like that everywhere... Is always excuses for everything, no one takes responsability for anything... today no one can for instance fire any one for incompetence,, is of course discrimination... I deal with this every day,,, you see I deal with the public also.;..an example, I talked to a Manager, of a particular company, gave him the information He needed, he repeat it, correctly, and told him that the check will be mail the same day. It was a check for $3,000, that one of my clients needed. Usually it takes for this particular company, 10 working days, for client to receive mail...plenty of time You would think, that a guy making $80,000 a year would be able to see that this simple thing is done... Well: it was never done,, my client call me two weeks later very upset (I don't blame it) had not receive the check... To make the story short, I had to call the president the other manager etc... finally check was mail express mail.....nothing bu excuses......I demanded they right a letter of apology, and that they were at fault... Excuses, excuses., Any how let me get back to my rv, more important than work no? Do not archive Bert Sign up for Internet Service under $10 dollars a month, at http://isp.BlueLight.com ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 12:35:20 PM PST US From: Jerry Springer Subject: Re: RV-List: Seats --> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer bert murillo wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: " bert murillo" > > And I fully concur also > > bert > > do not archive > Hi Burt, With a reply like that no ones has a clue what you are concuring to.... Please at least qoute a part of the message you concur with. Jerry do not archive ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 12:37:00 PM PST US From: " bert murillo" Subject: RV-List: rv seats --> RV-List message posted by: " bert murillo" Hi: Nedd to order seats for my rv6a, I know many have used Cleveland, they do a good job, for the ones I have seen.\ There is another one, in Oregon? any one have any experience with them, what is the difference in price. Any others, thanks bert rv6a do not archive Sign up for Internet Service under $10 dollars a month, at http://isp.BlueLight.com ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 12:39:33 PM PST US From: "Dan Checkoway" Subject: RV-List: Dynon: BAD ASS --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" I just got my Dynon EFIS-D10. All I can say is that this thing is BAD ASS! Take it out of the box, hit the power button, you're flying. Incredibly responsive. Can't wait to yank and bank this thing into submission. )_( Dan RV-7 N714D http://www.rvproject.com ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 12:50:58 PM PST US From: Jerry Springer Subject: Re: RV-List: rv seats --> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer bert murillo wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: " bert murillo" > > Hi: > > Nedd to order seats for my rv6a, I know many have > used Cleveland, they do a good job, for the ones I have > seen.\ > > There is another one, in Oregon? any one have > any experience with them, what is the difference in price. > > Any others, > > thanks > > bert > > rv6a > > do not archive Here is their web site Burt. http://www.oregonaero.com/ Jerry ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 01:14:02 PM PST US From: "Noel & Yoshie Simmons" Subject: RE: RV-List: Dynon: BAD ASS --> RV-List message posted by: "Noel & Yoshie Simmons" IMHO the only way you will be able to "yank and bank" The Dynon into submission is when one wing goes all the way south and the other north. Only then will you exceed the velocities to confuse it. A few seconds after the big dust cloud it will catch up to show just how bad the attitude really is. :>) Sincerely, Noel Simmons Blue Sky Aviation, Inc. Phone/Fax: 406-538-6574 noel@blueskyaviation.net www.blueskyaviation.net -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Dan Checkoway RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com Subject: RV-List: Dynon: BAD ASS --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" I just got my Dynon EFIS-D10. All I can say is that this thing is BAD ASS! Take it out of the box, hit the power button, you're flying. Incredibly responsive. Can't wait to yank and bank this thing into submission. )_( Dan RV-7 N714D http://www.rvproject.com ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 01:43:50 PM PST US From: "Dana Overall" Subject: RV-List: Quick Build vs Slow Build --> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" Fot those of you on the fence wondering about whether you should go QB or SB on the fuselage, here is a pic to furthur keep you on the fence or knock you off. http://rvflying.tripod.com/fuselage8.jpg I got my fuselage exactly one week ago. I worked about 1/2 day last Weds. on it, 1/2 day Thursday and all day Friday, Sat. and Sunday. This Monday, Tuesday and Weds have been about 4 hour days. Now, I'll grant you I was bachin it last Friday, Sat. and Sunday. All bulkheads are complete with the tailwheel drilled for keeper rivets and AN4 bolts. I have completely drilled the fuselage, it is ready to come back apart. I primed all the bulkhead at there overlap points, only as I was low on primer at that time. I will complete the priming after I talk it apart for deburring and dimpling. The center section, firewall and seat brace bulkhead are all complete. All this is exactly one weeks worth of work. It was a lot time spent in the shop, including rearranging the shop for fuselage work but this is what can be done with this prepunched stuff if you stay at it. I'll grant you, I am still a long way from QB status but I'll be there shortly. BTW, I've already fabricated more parts in a week than I did on the entire emp. and wings combined. Now it is time to buy more drill bits!! My plan now is to use the bench to assemble the seat bulkhead, baggage compartment ribs, floor ribs and center section. When I remove the fuselage from the sawhorses, I will swap spaces with the two components so I can work on both at the same time, ie, deburring and dimpling fuselage skins and drill the center section. Trust me, there is reason to this madness.............I am already buying instruments and looking for an engine.......it WILL fly to Oshkosh in 2004. Dana Overall Richmond, KY RV-7 slider/fuselage Finish kit ordered!! Buying Instruments http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 02:15:07 PM PST US From: "Glenn Brasch" Subject: Re: RV-List: Quick Build vs Slow Build --> RV-List message posted by: "Glenn Brasch" Your the man! I am going to save that extra money! Glenn in Arizona, about to order wings, DO NOT ARCHIVE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dana Overall" Subject: RV-List: Quick Build vs Slow Build > --> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" > > > Fot those of you on the fence wondering about whether you should go QB or SB > on the fuselage, here is a pic to furthur keep you on the fence or knock you > off. > > http://rvflying.tripod.com/fuselage8.jpg > ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 02:35:20 PM PST US From: "Ken Simmons" Subject: RV-List: Milwaukee to Oshkosh --> RV-List message posted by: "Ken Simmons" Sorry, not RV related. DO NOT ARCHIVE I'm trying to make last minute plans to attend Oshkosh to accept a Chapter award. I've got a plane ticket and a room in the UW dorm. The problem is getting to Oshkosh from Milwaukee. I don't want to rent a car for four days since I won't need it while I'm in Oshkosh. Greyhound is a possiblity, but the flight/bus schedules don't coincide very well. Any ideas? Thanks. Ken The Internet Truckstop The first and largest freight matching service on the Intenet ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ Sent via the KillerWebMail system at truckstop.com ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 02:40:13 PM PST US From: "Bill VonDane" Subject: Re: RV-List: rv seats --> RV-List message posted by: "Bill VonDane" I just got the seat foam kits from Van's for an RV-8 and they are NICE!!! http://checkoway.com/url/?s=17810958 -Bill VonDane RV-8A www.vondane.com www.creativair.com www.epanelbuilder.com ----- Original Message ----- From: " bert murillo" Subject: RV-List: rv seats --> RV-List message posted by: " bert murillo" Hi: Nedd to order seats for my rv6a, I know many have used Cleveland, they do a good job, for the ones I have seen.\ There is another one, in Oregon? any one have any experience with them, what is the difference in price. Any others, thanks bert rv6a do not archive Sign up for Internet Service under $10 dollars a month, at http://isp.BlueLight.com ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 03:45:19 PM PST US From: "Dana Overall" Subject: Re: RV-List: RV accident in Colorado, from Kirsten Stugart Lacy --> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" Kirsten, first of all my heartfelt sorrow at your terrible loss. I had to give a eulogy once for my best friend whose parents were directly in front of me. My most dreaded fears, as a parent, surfaced in there is no loss like the loss of a child. It can be extended from a child to the parent in the same terms. Again, I am so very sorry. I did not read all the post on this list concerning your fathers unfortunate accident as the only people who truly know what happened were on board the airplane. I am certain your father did everything in his power in an attempt to be able to see you again. I, like you, never think about dying in an airplane but if I do I would hope someone, somewhere might benefit in a time of need from a lesson learned by my passing. That is, I truly hope, the reason pilots discuss accidents. Your family, your community, the aviation community and the RV community has suffered a terrible loss. I can only extend to you my sorrow and a message that we as pilots try to take something from an accident that just might save our life one day. Again, through teary eyes my heart felt sorrow at your loss. Dana Overall Richmond, KY RV-7 slider/fuselage Finish kit ordered!! Buying Instruments http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive >From: "Kirsten Lacy" >Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com >To: >Subject: Re: RV-List: RV accident in Colorado, from Kirsten Stugart Lacy >Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 10:51:23 -0500 (Central Daylight Time) > >--> RV-List message posted by: "Kirsten Lacy" > >Glenn, thank you so much.=0D >=0D >I wish I could give you the magic words that would help your wife to >understand. She obviously loves you, and for some I'm sure the risks are >not worth it.=0D >=0D >Flight was always just a given when I was growing up. lol, as a teenager, >if I needed nail polish remover I got a baby jar of acetone from the >garage. > I can't even remember a Thanksgiving when there wasn't an airplane wing >in >the dining room.=0D >=0D >One of the strangest things for me in all of this, I never in a million >years expected that my Dad would die in a plane crash. Never crossed my >mind.=0D >=0D >Glenn, thank you again and take care.=0D >=0D >Kirsten=0D >=0D >=0D > =0D >-------Original Message-------=0D > =0D >From: rv-list@matronics.com=0D >Date: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 09:36:18 AM=0D >To: rv-list@matronics.com=0D >Subject: Re: RV-List: RV accident in Colorado, from Kirsten Stugart Lacy=0D > =0D >--> RV-List message posted by: glenn williams =0D >=0D >Kirsten:=0D >=0D >I wish you all the best in the future. From your=0D >statement I wish I knew you personally and wish you=0D >could talk to my wife and explain your feelings about=0D >flying to her. She is not supportive of my flying at=0D >all. Again my condolences to you and your family on=0D >your loss.=0D >=0D >Regards=0D >Glenn Williams=0D >=0D >do not archive=0D >=0D >--- Kirsten Lacy wrote:=0D > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Kirsten Lacy"=0D > > =0D > > =0D > > Jim Stugart was my father. 0D=0D > > 0D=0D > > I was searching tonight for news on the crash=0D > > investigation, and I found=0D > > your message boards. I followed many of the threads=0D > > for hours, and decided=0D > > I'd better stop...it could drive me crazy by=0D > > morning. 0D=0D > > 0D=0D > > I would like to give thanks to those who posted such=0D > > kind messages about Dad=0D > > those who knew him, were instructed by him, perhaps=0D > > some Young Eagles out=0D > > there who are flying today because his love of all=0D > > things aviation was so=0D > > contagious. Your condolences and memories are so=0D > > very much appreciated by=0D > > our family.0D=0D > > 0D=0D > > I have to say that the second-guessing, back-seat=0D > > flying as it were, is=0D > > entirely beyond me. Those of you who knew=0D > > Jim...well, you know Jim. If=0D > > there was anything that could have been done on that=0D > > takeoff, Dad was doing=0D > > it. Sometimes, there is just that "oh shit" moment,=0D > > and nothing else. 0D=0D > > 0D=0D > > Practice, practice, practice...it's true. My father=0D > > practiced for 35 years.=0D > > His skill and precision were second to none. =0D > > Sometimes, God simply calls=0D > > us home.0D=0D > > 0D=0D > > We are a family of Aviators, it is not without risk.=0D > > We know this, and it's=0D > > all right.0D=0D > > 0D=0D > > Kirsten Stugart Lacy0D=0D > > klacy@totalaccess.net=0D > > =0D > > =0D > >=0D > > Contributions=0D > > any other=0D > > Forums.=0D > >=0D > > latest messages.=0D > > List members.=0D > >=0D > > http://www.matronics.com/subscription=0D > > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV-List.htm=0D > > http://www.matronics.com/archives=0D > > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare=0D > > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists=0D > >=0D > > =0D > > =0D > > =0D > > =0D >=0D >=0D >=0D >Glenn Williams=0D >8A=0D >A&P=0D >N81GW=0D >=0D >__________________________________=0D >=0D >=0D >=0D >=0D >=0D >=0D >=0D >=2E > > ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 04:05:49 PM PST US From: chris m Subject: RV-List: cowl round inlet holes --> RV-List message posted by: chris m Dors anyone remember the chap that was making speed mods including the cowl inlet "making the holes smaller and round. Web page would be great. Looked everywhere?? Chris and Susie VH-MUM ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 04:17:13 PM PST US From: "Bob Hassel" Subject: RE: RV-List: cowl round inlet holes --> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Hassel" It was more than just changing the hole shape on the cowl - I believe it was Sam James - Holy Cowl. No known web site but if you search the achieves I bet you'll come up with a phone number...of course I bet that someone will provide it to the list shortly! Bob Hassel -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of chris m Subject: RV-List: cowl round inlet holes --> RV-List message posted by: chris m Dors anyone remember the chap that was making speed mods including the cowl inlet "making the holes smaller and round. Web page would be great. Looked everywhere?? Chris and Susie VH-MUM ________________________________ Message 33 ____________________________________ Time: 04:29:27 PM PST US From: Subject: Re: RV-List: cowl round inlet holes --> RV-List message posted by: Try this one: James Aircraft 12185 Schooner Lane Moore Haven, FL 33471 (863) 675-4493 (sorry, as of this writing he doesn't have e-mail) Good Luck! Konrad --> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Hassel" It was more than just changing the hole shape on the cowl - I believe it was Sam James - Holy Cowl. No known web site but if you search the achieves I bet you'll come up with a phone number...of course I bet that someone will provide it to the list shortly! Bob Hassel -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of chris m To: rv-list@matronics.com Subject: RV-List: cowl round inlet holes --> RV-List message posted by: chris m Dors anyone remember the chap that was making speed mods including the cowl inlet "making the holes smaller and round. Web page would be great. Looked everywhere?? Chris and Susie VH-MUM ________________________________ Message 34 ____________________________________ Time: 04:46:53 PM PST US From: "Ken Simmons" Subject: Re: RV-List: cowl round inlet holes --> RV-List message posted by: "Ken Simmons" Speaking of the Sam Jame's cowl, will anyone be at Arlington that has one. I'm getting ready for the finish kit and I'm considering this cowl. Thanks. Ken DO NOT ARCHIVE ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: >--> RV-List message posted by: > >Try this one: > >James Aircraft >12185 Schooner Lane >Moore Haven, FL 33471 >(863) 675-4493 >(sorry, as of this writing he doesn't have e-mail) > >Good Luck! Konrad > > The Internet Truckstop The first and largest freight matching service on the Intenet ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ Sent via the KillerWebMail system at truckstop.com ________________________________ Message 35 ____________________________________ Time: 05:07:37 PM PST US From: "Mike Stephenson" Subject: Re: RV-List: cowl round inlet holes --> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Stephenson" Contact John McMahon in Gallatin, TN at 615-452-8742, he can tell you where to get it. He is a nice guy who showed me the round aluminum inlet, that he had fiberglassed into this scoop, that replaces the standard cowl inlet on Van's air scoop. Please post the information back to this list. Sorry I don't have his email address. Regards, Mike Stephenson > Dors anyone remember the chap that was making speed mods including the cowl > inlet "making the holes smaller and round. > Web page would be great. > Looked everywhere?? > > Chris and Susie ________________________________ Message 36 ____________________________________ Time: 05:32:58 PM PST US From: "Randy Lervold" Subject: Re: RV-List: cowl round inlet holes --> RV-List message posted by: "Randy Lervold" And try this also... www.rv-8.com/Cowl.htm Sam's new web site is listed at the bottom of the page. Randy Lervold RV-8, Sam James cowl ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: RV-List: cowl round inlet holes > --> RV-List message posted by: > > Try this one: > > James Aircraft > 12185 Schooner Lane > Moore Haven, FL 33471 > (863) 675-4493 > (sorry, as of this writing he doesn't have e-mail) > > Good Luck! Konrad > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Hassel" > > It was more than just changing the hole shape on the cowl - I believe it was > Sam James - Holy Cowl. No known web site but if you search the achieves I > bet you'll come up with a phone number...of course I bet that someone will > provide it to the list shortly! > > Bob Hassel > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of chris m > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV-List: cowl round inlet holes > > > --> RV-List message posted by: chris m > > Dors anyone remember the chap that was making speed mods including the cowl > inlet "making the holes smaller and round. > Web page would be great. > Looked everywhere?? > > Chris and Susie > VH-MUM > > ________________________________ Message 37 ____________________________________ Time: 06:19:23 PM PST US From: "Bob Hassel" Subject: RE: RV-List: cowl round inlet holes --> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Hassel" Wow! Thanks! Hopefully he'll be adding the RV-10 to his list! Bob Hassel Do Not Archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Randy Lervold Subject: Re: RV-List: cowl round inlet holes --> RV-List message posted by: "Randy Lervold" And try this also... www.rv-8.com/Cowl.htm Sam's new web site is listed at the bottom of the page. Randy Lervold RV-8, Sam James cowl ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: RV-List: cowl round inlet holes > --> RV-List message posted by: > > Try this one: > > James Aircraft > 12185 Schooner Lane > Moore Haven, FL 33471 > (863) 675-4493 > (sorry, as of this writing he doesn't have e-mail) > > Good Luck! Konrad > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Hassel" > > It was more than just changing the hole shape on the cowl - I believe it was > Sam James - Holy Cowl. No known web site but if you search the achieves I > bet you'll come up with a phone number...of course I bet that someone will > provide it to the list shortly! > > Bob Hassel > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of chris m > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV-List: cowl round inlet holes > > > --> RV-List message posted by: chris m > > Dors anyone remember the chap that was making speed mods including the cowl > inlet "making the holes smaller and round. > Web page would be great. > Looked everywhere?? > > Chris and Susie > VH-MUM > > ________________________________ Message 38 ____________________________________ Time: 06:20:19 PM PST US From: chris m Subject: Re: RV-List: cowl round inlet holes --> RV-List message posted by: chris m Thanks all got the web site. I try to find stuff on the webb before ringing the states. Chris and Susie VH-MUM ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Lervold" Subject: Re: RV-List: cowl round inlet holes > --> RV-List message posted by: "Randy Lervold" > > And try this also... > www.rv-8.com/Cowl.htm > > Sam's new web site is listed at the bottom of the page. > > Randy Lervold > RV-8, Sam James cowl > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Subject: Re: RV-List: cowl round inlet holes > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: > > > > Try this one: > > > > James Aircraft > > 12185 Schooner Lane > > Moore Haven, FL 33471 > > (863) 675-4493 > > (sorry, as of this writing he doesn't have e-mail) > > > > Good Luck! Konrad > > > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Hassel" > > > > It was more than just changing the hole shape on the cowl - I believe it > was > > Sam James - Holy Cowl. No known web site but if you search the achieves > I > > bet you'll come up with a phone number...of course I bet that someone > will > > provide it to the list shortly! > > > > Bob Hassel > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of chris m > > To: rv-list@matronics.com > > Subject: RV-List: cowl round inlet holes > > > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: chris m > > > > Dors anyone remember the chap that was making speed mods including the > cowl > > inlet "making the holes smaller and round. > > Web page would be great. > > Looked everywhere?? > > > > Chris and Susie > > VH-MUM > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 39 ____________________________________ Time: 06:50:42 PM PST US From: "DANIEL W WATTERS" Subject: Re: RV-List: Quick Build vs Slow Build --> RV-List message posted by: "DANIEL W WATTERS" That guy makes it look easy on the fuselage. He works pretty fast. I always remember him because we use to have a radar bomb scoring detachment in Richmond, KY. I never went there but I knew a lot of guys that were stationed there. Pretty country I'll bet. Get to leave here at 9 PM tonight. Had to come in early for a Siemens sales meeting. Keeping my eye on the Chalet. Just a couple of hours left. It is up to $5200 now. Not sure what to do yet. I did put in for the three weeks vacation today. Hopefully it won't get nixed. Physicists want me back by August 11th so they can start their annual QA inspections on the machines. I'm really torn between spending money on a trailer and going to Osh or just saving money to spend on the plane. Can't think of any better year than this one for Osh. If I was only going to go once in my life this is the year for it. Don't think I would ever fly into that mess. The therapist that used to work here that is in Rochester, MN. called me today and wondered what I was doing for vacation this year. When I told her about Osh. she got all excited about me coming up to there and seeing her. I wonder what her husband would think of that idea. I wouldn't mind taking her out to lunch though. Lots of reasons to go and lots of ways to spend money. Dan >From: "Glenn Brasch" >Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com >To: >Subject: Re: RV-List: Quick Build vs Slow Build >Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 14:16:14 -0700 > >--> RV-List message posted by: "Glenn Brasch" > >Your the man! I am going to save that extra money! >Glenn in Arizona, about to order wings, DO NOT ARCHIVE > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Dana Overall" >To: >Subject: RV-List: Quick Build vs Slow Build > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" > > > > > > Fot those of you on the fence wondering about whether you should go QB >or >SB > > on the fuselage, here is a pic to furthur keep you on the fence or knock >you > > off. > > > > http://rvflying.tripod.com/fuselage8.jpg > > > > ________________________________ Message 40 ____________________________________ Time: 11:21:41 PM PST US From: "son hoang" Subject: RV-List: Re: [SoCAL-RVlist] Dynon --> RV-List message posted by: "son hoang" My Dynon EFIS-D10 was delivered this afternoon. Took it out of the box, nothing connected hit the power button and miracles happened. (I opted for the internal backup battery so it has its own power source). I was so impressed with it. I pitched it up/down, bank it left/right and the attitude indicator works perfectly. The altimeter function shows the correct altitude at my house (1560 ft) even without any connection to an encoder. I have not flown it yet but I know I will love it. My plane is IFR equipped with 2 coms, ILS, dme, Garmin IFR gps, fuel computer etc. but this EFIS is my favorite. Had I known it earlier I would order this unit scrap a few of the traditional instruments, save $ and panel space. Son Hoang RV6A-being painted ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan Checkoway To: SoCAL-RVlist@yahoogroups.com ; rv-list@matronics.com ; RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 12:38 PM Subject: [SoCAL-RVlist] Dynon: BAD ASS I just got my Dynon EFIS-D10. All I can say is that this thing is BAD ASS! Take it out of the box, hit the power button, you're flying. Incredibly responsive. Can't wait to yank and bank this thing into submission. )_( Dan RV-7 N714D http://www.rvproject.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: socal-rvlist-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com ________________________________ Message 41 ____________________________________ Time: 11:55:25 PM PST US From: "Vincent Himsl" Subject: RE: RV-List: Mattituck TMX O/IO-360 --> RV-List message posted by: "Vincent Himsl" Hello, I too am looking for an engine. After reading their web site, I emailed Mattituck with some questions. Their reply was to read their web site...not a good beginning. Vince Himsl RV8 SB Fuselage Moscow, ID USA -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brad Benson Subject: RV-List: Mattituck TMX O/IO-360 --> RV-List message posted by: "Brad Benson" Since I'm planning to buy my engine within the next couple of months, I was happy to see the recent price drop on the Superior XP-360 - but now I see that Mattituck has their own line of engines for experimentals, also based on the the Lycoming 320/360 series: http://www.mattituck.com/XE%20Program.htm Furthermore, when coupled with their own "Precision EX" fuel injection system instead of the Bendix, their 180HP IO-360 with a hollow crank for constant speed props goes for $19,400. That's pretty tempting, as it's a fair bit less expensive than a similarly equipped XP-360. Does anyone have any experience with these engines yet? I guess I'd be surprised if one has flown in a customer plane yet, but how was the fit/finish? Has anyone here even seen one yet? Thanks! Brad "Sharpie" Benson RV6AQB underway... "Please buy my software, it's funding my RV6A project!" - http://www.notamd.com advertising on the Matronics Forums. Share: Share photos & files with other List members.