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1. 01:22 AM - Re: RV-List Digest: 21 Msgs - 07/18/03 (DFaile@aol.com)
2. 01:55 AM - Re: [nonspam] very basic rivet question (Larry Pardue)
3. 04:53 AM - Re: Engine input-Please (Dana Overall)
4. 05:30 AM - Re: RV's and Mexico (PASSPAT@aol.com)
5. 05:54 AM - Dynon D-10 Second Flight (Doug Rozendaal)
6. 06:01 AM - Dynon D-10, was Re: Re: RV-List Digest: 21 Msgs - (Kevin Horton)
7. 06:09 AM - Re: Dynon D-10 First Flight (SportAV8R@aol.com)
8. 07:00 AM - Re: very basic rivet question (Bob Hassel)
9. 07:46 AM - Re: very basic rivet question (Elsa & Henry)
10. 08:58 AM - Re: Dynon D-10 Second Flight (Tom Gummo)
11. 12:02 PM - Dynon encoder question (Russ Werner)
12. 12:13 PM - Temporairily off list (HCRV6@aol.com)
13. 12:39 PM - Re: Dynon D-10 First Flight (Dana Overall)
14. 01:11 PM - Oshkosh Newby ()
15. 01:25 PM - Re: Dynon D-10 First Flight (Dana Overall)
16. 02:00 PM - Re: Oshkosh Newby (Gert)
17. 02:23 PM - Re: very basic rivet question (DAVID REEL)
18. 02:51 PM - Re: Dynon encoder question (Noel & Yoshie Simmons)
19. 03:31 PM - Re: Oshkosh Newby ()
20. 04:24 PM - Re: Dynon encoder question (N67BT@aol.com)
21. 06:41 PM - Re: Oshkosh Newby (mstewart@qa.butler.com)
22. 08:37 PM - For Sale: 70x71 Warnke Prop for 160HP RV-4/6 (jcobb@guardpilot.com)
23. 08:55 PM - Re: Oshkosh Newby (Dana Overall)
24. 09:09 PM - Re: Dynon D-10, was Re: Re: RV-List Digest: 21 Msgs - 07/18/03 (Dana Overall)
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| Subject: | Re: RV-List Digest: 21 Msgs - 07/18/03 |
--> RV-List message posted by: DFaile@aol.com
In a message dated 7/19/2003 2:58:29 AM Eastern Standard Time,
rv-list-digest@matronics.com writes:
> But, anyone who goes in a
> cloud with the D-10 (or any EFIS) as the only flight instrument is
> really sticking their neck out. Let's not forget that if the EFIS
> fails you need some other flight instruments so you can do partial
> panel.
>
>
If you read the FAR's you will see that the basic flight instruments are
still required, unless it is a turbojet aircraft. All of the aircraft you see with
these EFIS type instruments still have the AI, HI, and TC tucked in someplace
unless they are a turbojet, in which case they will have an AI someplace.
David Faile, MCFI A&P
1999 National Flight Instructor of the Year
EAA Technical Counselor & Flight Advisor
please do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: very basic rivet question |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Pardue" <n5lp@carlsbad.net>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "rpmiller" <rpmiller@1usa.net>
>
> O.K. I'm riveting my 4 wing and I am wondering why the leading edge is
supposed to use -4 rivets while the rest of the wing uses -3.5. Also I was
merrily squeezing the rivets that connect the leading edge to the spar web
flange but am finding that using a 3.5 the head height looks just barely big
enough when the rivet is squeezed just enough to reject the little avery
rivet gauge. I tried a -4 and of course it has a bigger head. I'd like to
blindly follow the plans but I thought someone might have some advice.
>
It is my opinion that blindly following the plans is not a good idea in
this, or any other, area. Use the rivet length that is needed. The plans
will usually give you a starting place to figure it out.
Larry Pardue
Carlsbad, NM
RV-6 N441LP Flying
http://www.carlsbadnm.com/n5lp/index.htm
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| Subject: | Re: Engine input-Please |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
Gang, thanks for all the online and offline emails on the different
qualities of the A1F6D. Those of you who have these obviously swear by
them. Time to pay for a tear down. If it's not the one, all I'm out is the
A&P charge which will be cheaper than a trip to
Maine.................nothing against Maine as I'm sure when the RV is
finished (next year!!) it will visit Maine.
Thanks again gang.
BTW, I've got two "Friends don't let friends fly plastic airplanes" T-shirts
for Oshkosh. Will wear one to the informal get together for the plastic
airplane I built in a privious building life. Can't wait to ruffle some
feathers:-)
Dana Overall
Richmond, KY
RV-7 slider/fuselage
Finish kit ordered!! Buying Instruments
http://rvflying.tripod.com
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| Subject: | Re: RV's and Mexico |
--> RV-List message posted by: PASSPAT@aol.com
Parker
Make dam sure your insurance has a Mx. binder for travel in that
place
Also you don't want to get to far from the plane or it may get
ripped off.
Pat
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| Subject: | Dynon D-10 Second Flight |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com>
Second flight this morning. This morning I was kind to the Dynon and did not
assualt it with acro, but rather flew it like an IFR airplane and it worked
great!!!
The speed envelope on the RV is so wide and the display is so accurate that
much of what I percieved last night as pitch wandering was really airspeed
(read pitch) changes.
The bank still wanders on the ground in turns and only a degree or two in
flight, but again, the screen allows you to see EXACTLY what level is and
you want it to be PERFECT and and it almost is!
I will probably have a nice backlit Horizon for sale soon! I am pretty
happy with it right now. More to follow.
Tailwinds,
Doug Rozendaal
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| Subject: | Re: RV-List Digest: 21 Msgs - |
07/18/03
--> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorto1537@rogers.com>
>--> RV-List message posted by: DFaile@aol.com
>
>In a message dated 7/19/2003 2:58:29 AM Eastern Standard Time,
>rv-list-digest@matronics.com writes:
>
>> But, anyone who goes in a
>> cloud with the D-10 (or any EFIS) as the only flight instrument is
>> really sticking their neck out. Let's not forget that if the EFIS
>> fails you need some other flight instruments so you can do partial
>> panel.
>>
>>
>
>If you read the FAR's you will see that the basic flight instruments are
>still required, unless it is a turbojet aircraft. All of the
>aircraft you see with
>these EFIS type instruments still have the AI, HI, and TC tucked in someplace
>unless they are a turbojet, in which case they will have an AI someplace.
>
>David Faile, MCFI A&P
>1999 National Flight Instructor of the Year
>EAA Technical Counselor & Flight Advisor
>please do not archive
>
The Dynon D-10 has all these instruments on one display, which meets
the literal requirements for our aircraft all by itself. If you are
aware of any FARs that would require backup flight instruments for
homebuilts, please educate me.
The FARs applicable to homebuilts don't say anything about separate
instruments, the way I read them. Just another case where simply
meeting the regulatory requirements is not enough to provide an
acceptable level of safety. You need to add a good measure of common
sense, as the guys writing the regs couldn't foresee every
circumstance.
Now, if we are building a FAR 25 Transport Category aircraft, then
FAR 25.1309 pretty much requires backup displays for critical
functions.
--
Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit)
Ottawa, Canada
http://go.phpwebhosting.com/~khorton/rv8/
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| Subject: | Re: Dynon D-10 First Flight |
--> RV-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com
Sorry to hear the sexy box is not 100% what we were hoping it would be. I wonder
if the new offering from Greg Toman will have any of the same flaws. I look
forward to a critical shoot-out among the new whiz-boxes on the market now or
by year's end. These are excoiting times to live in for airplane builders and
weekend warrior scud-runner types.
www.grtavionics.com
(I'm a satisfied customer of one of Greg's original Engine Information Systems
monitors, and I think he's going to rock the competition in October with this
one ;-)
-Bill B
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| Subject: | very basic rivet question |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Hassel" <bob@hassel-usa.com>
I agree with the others. The rivet length you need will vary. Sometimes
you just need a longer rivet. We all dimple/countersink etc to differing
levels. Even from rivet to rivet there is bound to be some minor variation.
Use the rivet length that gets you the results you need. I even ordered
extra rivets (longer) than what came in the kits for just that reason.
Bob Hassel
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[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of rpmiller
Subject: RV-List: very basic rivet question
--> RV-List message posted by: "rpmiller" <rpmiller@1usa.net>
O.K. I'm riveting my 4 wing and I am wondering why the leading edge is
supposed to use -4 rivets while the rest of the wing uses -3.5. Also I was
merrily squeezing the rivets that connect the leading edge to the spar web
flange but am finding that using a 3.5 the head height looks just barely big
enough when the rivet is squeezed just enough to reject the little avery
rivet gauge. I tried a -4 and of course it has a bigger head. I'd like to
blindly follow the plans but I thought someone might have some advice.
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| Subject: | Re: very basic rivet question |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Elsa & Henry" <elsa-henry@darlor-watch.com>
I had no trouble at all meeting the I 1/2 + diameter ratio between shop-head
and rivet body on all my wing skins as called up on the plans (1994
vintage). I don't know what the present RV-4 plans call-up, but on the -6
the spar web is .040" thk mat'l, whereas most of the ribs are .025" and a
few .032".-- A .032" skin with a .040" web used with -3.5 rivet will just
(theoretically) make it by .007" if squeezed perfectly, not including primer
thickness.-----Use the -4 rivet!
Cheers!! Henry Hore
> O.K. I'm riveting my 4 wing and I am wondering why the leading edge is
supposed to use -4 rivets while the rest of the wing uses -3.5. Also I was
merrily squeezing the rivets that connect the leading edge to the spar web
flange but am finding that using a 3.5 the head height looks just barely big
enough when the rivet is squeezed just enough to reject the little avery
rivet gauge. I tried a -4 and of course it has a bigger head. I'd like to
blindly follow the plans but I thought someone might have some advice.
>
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| Subject: | Re: Dynon D-10 Second Flight |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tom Gummo" <t.gummo@verizon.net>
>
> The bank still wanders on the ground in turns and only a degree or two in
> flight, but again, the screen allows you to see EXACTLY what level is and
> you want it to be PERFECT and and it almost is!
> Tailwinds,
> Doug Rozendaal
Doug,
I was told to only taxi as fast as I can walk. You must be really going
fast on the ground to cause bank angles during turns. You must be hard on
tires and brakes too. :-)
How about this for the name for your RV-4:
"Almost A Rocket"
LOL
Sounds like you are having fun. Check 6.
Tom Gummo
Apple Valley, CA
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| Subject: | Dynon encoder question |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Russ Werner" <russ@wernerworld.com>
A friend at the hangar is wiring up his Dynon encoder functions to a KT76
Transponder. The encoder has a "strobe" line out. The old Ameriking
encoder manual said to put this line to ground when using a KT76.
Is this the case with any encoder and should the Dynon "strobe" line also be
grounded? We're guessing so, but anyone with some knowledge here that can
point us right would be appreciated.
Russ Werner
HRII
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| Subject: | Temporairily off list |
--> RV-List message posted by: HCRV6@aol.com
Signing off the list for about 10 days.
Harry Crosby
Pleasanton, California
RV-6, firewall forward
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| Subject: | Re: Dynon D-10 First Flight |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
>From: SportAV8R@aol.com
>
>Sorry to hear the sexy box is not 100% what we were hoping it would be. ,
>and I think he's going to rock the competition in October with this one ;-)
>
>-Bill B
>
>
All except the price difference. Looking forward to taking my Dynon out of
the box with delivery sch. the week after Oshkosh. It's appears to be 100%
of what I am looking for.
Dana Overall
Richmond, KY
RV-7 slider/fuselage
Finish kit ordered!! Buying Instruments
http://rvflying.tripod.com
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--> RV-List message posted by: <ktlkrn@cox.net>
Hi Everyone,
I am now the proud owner of a nearly completed RV7. I am making the journey to
Osh for the first time and am wondering if there is a central location where the
RV's park. I'm sure some will be a separate camping area but I'm interested
in seeing as many as possible.
I'm ready!! Digital camera, 512mb card, hat , sunscreen, twitching credit card
and an attitude, I'll be there when it opens.
This list has already been extremely helpful. Thanks folks, and God bless American
for providing us the opportunity to enjoy what we love!!!!
Darwin N. Barrie
Chandler AZ
Stellar Airpark
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| Subject: | Re: Dynon D-10 First Flight |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
>--> RV-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com
>
>Sorry to hear the sexy box is not 100% what we were hoping it would be. .
>These are excoiting times to live in for airplane builders and weekend
>warrior scud-runner types.
I think he's going to rock the competition in October with this one ;-)
Bill, sorry my first post seemed to little short and trite for my liking.
Sorry if it came across that way. Dynon has been very upfront with it's
customers concerning the heading function not working properly. Anyone who
buys now knows it is not a working part of the unit. There appears to be
overwhelming satisfaction on other boards for the Dynon unit as a whole.
Sure everyone always would love to have something included in any instrument
that is not there already. To say it is not what people were hoping for may
be stretching it a little, once again, there appears to be overwhelming
satisfaction at this point.
I talked with Greg at SNF. His unit will be nice and perform accordingly I
am sure. With that said though, there is a substantial, and it is
substantial, difference in the price of the unit. Sure if I were "King for
a Day" I would install a new whiz bang new IO360 CS will all the goodies,
junk this old technology Garmin 430 for a couple new UPS CNS80's coupled the
most unbelievable approach coupled autopilot.........and a great CD player.
But, cost is factor and while Greg's unit will be nice I can get the Dynon
and use the difference in upgrading and engine, for example.
I didn't mean to be so short with my first post...........or so long winded
on this one.
Dana Overall
Richmond, KY
RV-7 slider/fuselage
Finish kit ordered!! Buying Instruments
http://rvflying.tripod.com
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| Subject: | Re: Oshkosh Newby |
--> RV-List message posted by: Gert <gert@execpc.com>
Hi Darwin
Ohhh Yesssss, there's an RV area. go North, my friend, we're at the
north end of 18-36 and a little west. If ya wander towards the warbird
area or the trimotor rides, yer bound to meet up with us.
There is a parking area, all for us, called 'Area 51', if there are
enough, we even overflow in to 'The Skunkworks'......
Gert
ktlkrn@cox.net wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: <ktlkrn@cox.net>
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I am now the proud owner of a nearly completed RV7. I am making the journey to
Osh for the first time and am wondering if there is a central location where
the RV's park. I'm sure some will be a separate camping area but I'm interested
in seeing as many as possible.
>
> I'm ready!! Digital camera, 512mb card, hat , sunscreen, twitching credit card
and an attitude, I'll be there when it opens.
>
> This list has already been extremely helpful. Thanks folks, and God bless American
for providing us the opportunity to enjoy what we love!!!!
>
> Darwin N. Barrie
> Chandler AZ
> Stellar Airpark
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: very basic rivet question |
--> RV-List message posted by: "DAVID REEL" <dreel@cox.net>
I found that I sometimes needed to substitute a longer rivet than called for in
the plans because the rivet did not extend 1.5 times the rivet diameter beyond
the hole before squeezing. I hand-filed a notch in a small piece of 1/8" thick
aluminum so I could check this and avoid having to drill out a rivet that
formed a shop head that was less than 1/2 a rivet diameter high. The vast majority
of the rivets called for were OK, but occasionally they would be too short.
When this would happen, I'd check that the pieces were fitting together without
gaps & if so, go with the longer rivet.
Dave Reel - RV8A
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| Subject: | Dynon encoder question |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Noel & Yoshie Simmons" <noel@blueskyaviation.net>
Russ,
Just put in my second Dynon using the encoder. GROUND pin#s #16 - #4 along
with the master ground #3. Power pin#s #1 - #14. The gray code A1-C4 are
all the same as the encoder to transponder.
Sincerely,
Noel Simmons
Blue Sky Aviation, Inc.
Phone/Fax: 406-538-6574
noel@blueskyaviation.net <mailto:noel@blueskyaviation.net>
www.blueskyaviation.net <http://www.blueskyaviation.net>
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[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Russ Werner
Subject: RV-List: Dynon encoder question
--> RV-List message posted by: "Russ Werner" <russ@wernerworld.com>
A friend at the hangar is wiring up his Dynon encoder functions to a KT76
Transponder. The encoder has a "strobe" line out. The old Ameriking
encoder manual said to put this line to ground when using a KT76.
Is this the case with any encoder and should the Dynon "strobe" line also be
grounded? We're guessing so, but anyone with some knowledge here that can
point us right would be appreciated.
Russ Werner
HRII
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| Subject: | Re: Oshkosh Newby |
--> RV-List message posted by: <ktlkrn@cox.net>
Thanks, this is the information I'm looking for. Myself and another builder
are flying commercially to Milwaukee then driving up. We will be there the
first 4 days. I'm close to the panel planning stage so I'm going to be
taking pictures and shopping.
Thanks again.
Darwin
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gert" <gert@execpc.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Oshkosh Newby
> --> RV-List message posted by: Gert <gert@execpc.com>
>
> Hi Darwin
>
> Ohhh Yesssss, there's an RV area. go North, my friend, we're at the
> north end of 18-36 and a little west. If ya wander towards the warbird
> area or the trimotor rides, yer bound to meet up with us.
>
> There is a parking area, all for us, called 'Area 51', if there are
> enough, we even overflow in to 'The Skunkworks'......
>
> Gert
>
> ktlkrn@cox.net wrote:
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: <ktlkrn@cox.net>
> >
> > Hi Everyone,
> >
> > I am now the proud owner of a nearly completed RV7. I am making the
journey to Osh for the first time and am wondering if there is a central
location where the RV's park. I'm sure some will be a separate camping area
but I'm interested in seeing as many as possible.
> >
> > I'm ready!! Digital camera, 512mb card, hat , sunscreen, twitching
credit card and an attitude, I'll be there when it opens.
> >
> > This list has already been extremely helpful. Thanks folks, and God
bless American for providing us the opportunity to enjoy what we love!!!!
> >
> > Darwin N. Barrie
> > Chandler AZ
> > Stellar Airpark
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Dynon encoder question |
--> RV-List message posted by: N67BT@aol.com
According to Dynon tech support the strobe connection is just grounded if
there is no corresponding connection on the transponder.
Bob Trumpfheller
<A friend at the hangar is wiring up his Dynon encoder functions to a KT76
Transponder.=A0 The encoder has a "strobe" line out.=A0 The old Ameriking
encoder manual said to put this line to ground when using a KT76.
Is this the case with any encoder and should the Dynon "strobe" line also be
grounded?=A0=A0 We're guessing so, but anyone with some knowledge here that=20can
point us right would be appreciated.
Russ Werner>
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--> RV-List message posted by: mstewart@qa.butler.com
Rather than just take all kinds of pictures, I found that asking each owner,
"whats neat, unusual, or cool about yours?" What is different that you would
do again.
Take pictures of that stuff.
For example. I REALLY like my arm rest and center console. Not a real big
deal, but a picture of one of these that another builder has done is worth a
thousand words when trying to replicate. Maybe you didn't think of an arm
rest. I dunno... but the point is each plane has a unique quality or 2 that
is worth noting as you build and may make all the difference day to day.
Don't just mull around the real beauties. Go off the beaten path and see
what the average joe has done and ask them that question. Then you will have
some great pictures to take home.
I saw a pair of welded handles on a roll bar that I am so glad I put in.
Getting in and out w/o using them is a bear. With them is a piece of cake.
Just a little item that makes all the difference day to day.
Mike Stewart
see ya at osh
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-----Original Message-----
From: ktlkrn@cox.net
Subject: RV-List: Oshkosh Newby
--> RV-List message posted by: <ktlkrn@cox.net>
Hi Everyone,
I am now the proud owner of a nearly completed RV7. I am making the
journey to Osh for the first time and am wondering if there is a central
location where the RV's park. I'm sure some will be a separate camping
area but I'm interested in seeing as many as possible.
I'm ready!! Digital camera, 512mb card, hat , sunscreen, twitching
credit card and an attitude, I'll be there when it opens.
This list has already been extremely helpful. Thanks folks, and God
bless American for providing us the opportunity to enjoy what we
love!!!!
Darwin N. Barrie
Chandler AZ
Stellar Airpark
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| Subject: | For Sale: 70x71 Warnke Prop for 160HP RV-4/6 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "jcobb@guardpilot.com" <jcobb@guardpilot.com>
FOR SALE: 2-blade, wood, 70x71, Warnke Propeller
The prop has about 500 hours and is in good condition. It performed very
well on the airplane with a consistent cruise speed of 160 KTS at 75% power
at 8K feet and a gross weight climb of 1500fpm. I am moving back to the
southeast and have opted for a composite (Catto) prop for better weather
resistance.
The prop is available for pick-up at DVT (Phoenix, AZ) now, or it will be
moved to MGM (Montgomery, AL) in a few weeks. Or you can pay shipping
anywhere.
Make an offer.
John Cobb
jcobb@guardpilot.com
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| Subject: | Re: Oshkosh Newby |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
>From: <ktlkrn@cox.net>
>I am now the proud owner of a nearly completed RV7. I am making the journey
>to Osh for the first time and am wondering if there is a central location
>where the RV's park>
>I'm ready!! Digital camera, 512mb card, hat , sunscreen, twitching credit
>card and an attitude, I'll be there when it opens.
>
>Darwin N. Barrie
Darwin, as another poster said..........head north young man, head north.
You will run into more RV's than the man upstairs made clecos for (poor
sentence structure but the truth).
BTW, your 512 card won't be enough, and "almost complete 7" what, did the
guy work on it for a year and give up...............sorry, couldn't resist.
See ya all thar.
Dana Overall
Richmond, KY
RV-7 slider/fuselage
Finish kit ordered!! Buying Instruments
http://rvflying.tripod.com
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| Subject: | Re: RV-List Digest: 21 Msgs - 07/18/03 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
> >--> RV-List message posted by: DFaile@aol.com
> >
> >If you read the FAR's you will see that the basic flight instruments are
> >still required, unless it is a turbojet aircraft. All of the
> >aircraft you see with
> >these EFIS type instruments still have the AI, HI, and TC tucked in
>someplace
> >unless they are a turbojet, in which case they will have an AI someplace.
> >
> >David Faile, MCFI A&P
> >1999 National Flight Instructor of the Year
> >EAA Technical Counselor & Flight Advisor
> >please do not archive
David
I read the FAR's the same way as Kevid does tonight. The literal read for
experimental indicates the Dynon satisfies the required instruments
incorporated within the unit. For IFR a pitot static and altitude reporting
requirement exists but with gray code being transmitted by the Dynon this
will be something that some shops may balk at. Now from and safety
standpoint, the inclusion of an airspeed indicator, TC, VSI for tendencies
and maybe ALT would be mandatory.......in my book. The Dynon appears to
satisfy the reg. requirements. As my wife will quickly point out, I am
wrong on most occasions. If so, please put me in my place. I'm a big boy,
I can take it.
Man, I'm looking forward to Oshkosh hangovers:-)
Dana Overall
Richmond, KY
RV-7 slider/fuselage
Finish kit ordered!! Buying Instruments
http://rvflying.tripod.com
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