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1. 12:18 AM - Re: Oshkosh Newby ()
2. 03:24 AM - Dynon D10 encoder input/output (Richard V. Reynolds)
3. 04:45 AM - Re: For Sale: 70x71 Warnke Prop for 160HP RV-4/6 (James E. Clark)
4. 05:16 AM - Re: For Sale: 70x71 Warnke Prop for 160HP RV-4/6 (RV3)
5. 06:05 AM - Re: Dynon D10 encoder input/output (Larry Bowen)
6. 06:15 AM - Nags Head NC Area RV's (Frank Dombroski)
7. 06:16 AM - Nags Head NC Area RV's (Frank Dombroski)
8. 09:39 AM - Re: Nags Head NC Area RV's (Lenleg@aol.com)
9. 10:07 AM - Re: For Sale: RV-6A (Curt Reimer)
10. 11:04 AM - Of NACA scoops: the early experiments (SportAV8R@aol.com)
11. 02:13 PM - Re: Keep it Short! (Eugene Williams)
12. 03:40 PM - Re: Keep it Short! (Ed Anderson)
13. 06:15 PM - RV Forum NY 9-13...COME FLY WITH ME (RV6160hp@aol.com)
14. 06:59 PM - checkered pattern (Steve J Hurlbut)
15. 07:13 PM - SL-40 Intercom Function (bruno)
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| Subject: | Re: Oshkosh Newby |
--> RV-List message posted by: <ktlkrn@cox.net>
Thanks Mike,
Excellent points. I will do just that. I think the, "what would you do
differently?" question is probably the most applicable here. Everyone has
something that they would change or do differently. The current builders
become the beneficiaries of this "experience.
Can't wait.
Darwin N. Barrie
Chandler AZ
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From: <mstewart@qa.butler.com>
Subject: RE: RV-List: Oshkosh Newby
> --> RV-List message posted by: mstewart@qa.butler.com
>
> Rather than just take all kinds of pictures, I found that asking each
owner,
> "whats neat, unusual, or cool about yours?" What is different that you
would
> do again.
>
> Take pictures of that stuff.
> For example. I REALLY like my arm rest and center console. Not a real big
> deal, but a picture of one of these that another builder has done is worth
a
> thousand words when trying to replicate. Maybe you didn't think of an arm
> rest. I dunno... but the point is each plane has a unique quality or 2
that
> is worth noting as you build and may make all the difference day to day.
> Don't just mull around the real beauties. Go off the beaten path and see
> what the average joe has done and ask them that question. Then you will
have
> some great pictures to take home.
>
> I saw a pair of welded handles on a roll bar that I am so glad I put in.
> Getting in and out w/o using them is a bear. With them is a piece of cake.
> Just a little item that makes all the difference day to day.
>
> Mike Stewart
> see ya at osh
> do not archive.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ktlkrn@cox.net
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV-List: Oshkosh Newby
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: <ktlkrn@cox.net>
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I am now the proud owner of a nearly completed RV7. I am making the
> journey to Osh for the first time and am wondering if there is a central
> location where the RV's park. I'm sure some will be a separate camping
> area but I'm interested in seeing as many as possible.
>
> I'm ready!! Digital camera, 512mb card, hat , sunscreen, twitching
> credit card and an attitude, I'll be there when it opens.
>
> This list has already been extremely helpful. Thanks folks, and God
> bless American for providing us the opportunity to enjoy what we
> love!!!!
>
> Darwin N. Barrie
> Chandler AZ
> Stellar Airpark
>
>
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| Subject: | Dynon D10 encoder input/output |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Richard V. Reynolds" <rvreynolds@macs.net>
I have not received my D10 yet, but I have read the manuals available on the web
site.
Does the D10 output grey code to the transponder or does it require input from
an
external encoder?
Inquiring minds want to know.
Richard Reynolds
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| Subject: | For Sale: 70x71 Warnke Prop for 160HP RV-4/6 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "James E. Clark" <james@nextupventures.com>
Might be interested. Need to check with my partner. Please put me on your
list. I will get back to you.
We are in SC so AL is a lot closer.
Question: On what plane do you have it and at what weight are the numbers
mentioned for that plane?
Thanks,
James
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
> jcobb@guardpilot.com
> Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 11:36 PM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV-List: For Sale: 70x71 Warnke Prop for 160HP RV-4/6
>
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> --> RV-List message posted by: "jcobb@guardpilot.com"
> <jcobb@guardpilot.com>
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> FOR SALE: 2-blade, wood, 70x71, Warnke Propeller
>
> The prop has about 500 hours and is in good condition. It performed very
> well on the airplane with a consistent cruise speed of 160 KTS at
> 75% power
> at 8K feet and a gross weight climb of 1500fpm. I am moving back to the
> southeast and have opted for a composite (Catto) prop for better weather
> resistance.
>
> The prop is available for pick-up at DVT (Phoenix, AZ) now, or it will be
> moved to MGM (Montgomery, AL) in a few weeks. Or you can pay shipping
> anywhere.
>
> Make an offer.
>
> John Cobb
> jcobb@guardpilot.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: For Sale: 70x71 Warnke Prop for 160HP RV-4/6 |
--> RV-List message posted by: RV3 <rv3@comcast.net>
jcobb@guardpilot.com wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "jcobb@guardpilot.com" <jcobb@guardpilot.com>
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>FOR SALE: 2-blade, wood, 70x71, Warnke Propeller
>
>The prop has about 500 hours and is in good condition. It performed very
>well on the airplane with a consistent cruise speed of 160 KTS at 75% power
>at 8K feet and a gross weight climb of 1500fpm. I am moving back to the
>southeast and have opted for a composite (Catto) prop for better weather
>resistance.
>
>The prop is available for pick-up at DVT (Phoenix, AZ) now, or it will be
>moved to MGM (Montgomery, AL) in a few weeks. Or you can pay shipping
>anywhere.
>
>Make an offer.
>
>John Cobb
>
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Hi John,
OOOPS.
I offer $425 and will pay UPS Ground shipping....
IF, PROP BOLT HOLES ARE 3/8 INCH.
Can you send close-up pictures?
Bob Urban
Kansas City area
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| Subject: | Dynon D10 encoder input/output |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
Yes, it outputs the grey codes. See the installation manual.
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
2003 - The year of flight!
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard V. Reynolds [mailto:rvreynolds@macs.net]
> Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 6:24 AM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV-List: Dynon D10 encoder input/output
>
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> --> RV-List message posted by: "Richard V. Reynolds"
> --> <rvreynolds@macs.net>
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> I have not received my D10 yet, but I have read the manuals
> available on the web site.
>
> Does the D10 output grey code to the transponder or does it
> require input from an external encoder?
>
> Inquiring minds want to know.
>
> Richard Reynolds
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| Subject: | Nags Head NC Area RV's |
--> RV-List message posted by: Frank Dombroski <f_dombroski@yahoo.com>
I will be in Nags Head for a family week, today until next Sat. As my RV-8 project
is still in AZ, and I on the east coast, I am having RV withdraw. Any flying
or nearly completed RV's in the neighborhood interested in a visit/flight
companion???
Thanks
Frank Dombroski
-8 wires and plumbing - still...
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| Subject: | Nags Head NC Area RV's |
--> RV-List message posted by: Frank Dombroski <f_dombroski@yahoo.com>
Sorry - brain fade... contact f_dombroski@yahoo.com, 480-510-9454...
I will be in Nags Head for a family week, today until next Sat. As my RV-8 project
is still in AZ, and I on the east coast, I am having RV withdraw. Any flying
or nearly completed RV's in the neighborhood interested in a visit/flight
companion???
Thanks
Frank Dombroski
-8 wires and plumbing - still...
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Nags Head NC Area RV's |
--> RV-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
The Airventure Cup Race has 18 of us "RVs" in it and we are all coming down
to Kitty Hawk next Friday and Saturday. Come out to Dare County for the time
trials on Saturday.
Len Leggette, RV-8A
Greensboro, NC N910LL
106 hrs Race #87
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| Subject: | Re: For Sale: RV-6A |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Curt Reimer" <cgreimer@mb.sympatico.ca>
Hi Listers,
I'm posting this for a friend. For more info please contact Jill whose email
and phone listed below. She is not the owner either but has agreed to handle
the sale. The aircraft is located in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada. About 3 1/2
hours north of Fargo, ND.
Curt
RV-6 C-GACR 25 hours and loving it!
>> RV6A for sale - e-mail jill_oakes@umanitoba.ca or call (204) 261-1007 if
>> you're interested, feel free to pass this information on to others you
>> think might like to know.
>> 150 hrs. TT
>> Lycoming o-320 160 hp. Phlogiston spar.
>> Electric flaps and elevator trim.
>> Wing tip landing and position lights,
>> Strobe on vertical stabiliser.
>> New navcom radio,
>> Sigtronics voice activated intercom.
>> Transponder with Mode C.
>> AmeriKing ELT.
>> Stainless steel cross-over exhaust.
>> Electric tachometer.
>> Electric artificial horizon.
>> EGT and CHT.
>> Colin Walker wooden prop.
>> New main wheel tires.
>> Asking $55,000 Canadian firm.
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| Subject: | Of NACA scoops: the early experiments |
--> RV-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com
Yesterday dawned bright and only somewhat hazy, so there was no excuse not to
make scientific progress and dispell ignorance... since none of the cows or
dogs around here seemed intersted, I stepped forward to fly the mission. Hey,
it's a tough job, expanding the scope of aeronautical knowledge, but someone
has to do it.
A highly accurate, precision temperature sensing instrument (from the
aerospace division of Radio Shack) was fitted to the airframe with Duck brand duct
tape, to allow independent monitoring of the OAT during the flights. OAT
readings from the right wheel pant would be compared with the warm-ish air being
delivered by my left-side NACA scoop, where the probe for my Rocky Mountain
microEncoder OAT function is mounted.
Flight test data was collected at 75% cruise power in level flight at 2000,
3000 and 4000 feet MSL from both instruments, then avaraged and compared.
Three different regimes were tested. The first compared the readings in the
normal state, as installed. This test run showed a difference on the ground,
before engine startup, of only 0.8 C. This was taken to be the absolute gauge
error between the two instruments. This difference was subtracted out of all
subsequent comparisons. Averaging data from all three flight levels, the measured
(uEncoder) vs. actual (RadioShack) OAT's was off by +5.3 C.
The next test flight was made with the gaps in the cowling halves taped over
to eliminate hot air leakage from the engine compartment into the slipstream.
The temp spread in this condition dropped to +4.6 C. Thus we conclude that
convection contributes about 0.7 C to the temp rise above ambient.
This still left unanswered the question of probe error due to heat soak
(conduction and radiation) into the back of the probe from the cockpit environment
under the panel and close to the firewall. (The probe is insulated with
generous amounts of spray in place foam, but this still proved to be a source of
error; read on...) The Radio Shack probe was moved inside, to the opening of
the air vent, allowing comparison of measured versus delivered air temps in the
fresh air vent system. This error was found to be +1.2 C, meaning the air
coming from the vent was actually slightly cooler than what the dedicated OAT
probe was reporting.
By subtraction, it is possible to estimate the warming contribution made by
conduction from the cowling surface into the boundary layer of air flowing
along the outside of the cowl and ultimately into the fresh air vent system. The
answer: an average of 4.1 C. The cowl gets quite hot even in that gale of a
slipstream, and sources that heat into the ambient air by the bucketload! I
didn't fly with this instrumentation set-up and the cowl gaps untaped again,
but adding that earlier 0.7 C contribution back in, we get an estimated 4.8 C
total rise in air temp, with instrument errors factored out, as a result of heat
transfer in this scoop location. My opinion: it's structurally simple and
elegant to locate the scoop where Van says to put it, but DON"T!!! Considering
the scoop's puropose, it's a very bad choice of locations for entraining cool
outside air into the RV cockpit. And the OAT probe should be nowhere near
the engine or any slipstream air that has passed near the engine.
I am not sure what I will do about this (except to relocate the probe, which
is realtively simple), since my ship is finished and painted and all, but for
those of you still building, this may help you improve your free "adiabatic
lapse rate air conditioning" substantially.
Suggestions for retro-fit modifications are welcome and solicited...
Bill Boyd
RV-6A
one of the few things I've posted that may be worth archiving
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| Subject: | Re: Keep it Short! |
Seal-Send-Time: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 17:10:16 -0400
--> RV-List message posted by: "Eugene Williams" <Ewill177@hotmail.com>
The other day you posted a message on behalf of me. I can't get my messages to
appear on the list. What am I doing wrong? gene williams
----- Original Message -----
From: RV-List Tip of the Day
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 2:30 PM
Subject: RV-List: Keep it Short!
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| Subject: | Re: Keep it Short! |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
Gene, it got posted this time
Ed Anderson
eanderson@carolina.rr.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eugene Williams" <Ewill177@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Keep it Short!
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Eugene Williams" <Ewill177@hotmail.com>
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> The other day you posted a message on behalf of me. I can't get my
messages to appear on the list. What am I doing wrong? gene williams
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| Subject: | RV Forum NY 9-13...COME FLY WITH ME |
--> RV-List message posted by: RV6160hp@aol.com
From Ohio to Maryland up through NEE Canada....1200+ Flyers sent...did you get
your REV Forum Notice? See you at KFZY (Fulton NY) this year?
Mark your calendars and plan to attend.
September 12, 2003 Friday night fly in, cook out and camp out. The EAA 486 General
meeting night too. September 13, 2003 Saturday technical seminars all day,
meals provided to paid attendee's. Then a nice dinner banquet with a presentation.
This year Mr. Kirk House, ex-Director Curator of the Glenn Cirtiss Museum
will talk about the books on Glenn he wrote, and how Glenn was the ultimate
Experimenter!
September 14, 2003 Sunday AM our great pancake breakfast and perhaps a coordinated
fly out for lunch, planes, weather and pilots willing.
see us at www.eaachapter486.com
We will be updating (correcting-there are ome errors now) our site soon with the
2003 plans. Last year over 56+ RV's and 25 SPAM's flew in with over 150 attendee's.
There was Mike Seager and the Factory RV6 doing instruction (which is
happening again this year are you builders close email Craig Warner at cwarner@twcny.rr.com
) and as well there was manufacturers like Lycoming and Aerospace
logic with tables displaying and selling their wares.
I could go on...but you get the picture...just ask some one who has been there
the $40 (pre registered) is easily worth it. Hope to See you all there.
OH I plan to give rides this year Dammmmmit! YOU GAME?
Respectfully,
David McManmon
President EAA 486
RV6 Flying, Builder, Pilot N58DM
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| Subject: | checkered pattern |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Steve J Hurlbut" <sjhdcl@kingston.net>
Anybody know of a nice 'how to' website (pictures) for painting
a black and white checkered pattern?
Steve
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| Subject: | SL-40 Intercom Function |
--> RV-List message posted by: bruno <rv4@videotron.ca>
Here's the deal on the SL-40 intercom function and monitor function:
Intercom: Activating the intercom requires pulling pin 12 to ground.
This can be done with a switch on the panel (as shown in the installation
manual, switch not supplied with SL-40 install kit), or by hard wiring pin
12 to ground in the harness (if you want the intercom ON all the time).
Monitor: Activated by pressing the MON button on the front of the panel.
De-activated by pressing MON again.
There is no mention in either the Installation Manual or Users Guide of
not being able to use Intercom and Monitor at the same time.
All this and more can be found in the Installation Manual and Users Guide
available on the UPS Aviation Technologies website.
http://www.upsat.com/
I found the time spent reading the installation manuals and users guides
answered all my questions about functions, features, and how to mount the
hardware. Many manufacturers make both available to download in PDF
format.
Steve Allison
SL-40 on the shelf, along with other panel hardware....time to make holes
in the panel :-)
-----------------------------------------------
Hello Steve
hard wiring pin
12 to ground in the harness (if you want the intercom ON all the time)...
That's exactly how my SL-40 is wired.If I don't want the intercom to work in
the back seat, I just turn the volume/squelch function to zero and switch to
single mike operation.
The Intercom/Monitor function do work nicely together on my
radio.
Cheers
Bruno
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