Today's Message Index:
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1. 06:12 AM - Re: Yet another new engine (Scott Bilinski)
2. 07:28 AM - Re: RV-7 C1C Engine (Mike Robertson)
3. 07:50 AM - c1c (PittsS1@aol.com)
4. 07:52 AM - Re: Fiberglass - Next? (Ed Perry)
5. 08:41 AM - [Fw: The best new thing I saw at OSH...] (Chris W)
6. 09:13 AM - Re: Fiberglass - Next? (Kyle Boatright)
7. 09:30 AM - Re: Fiberglass - Next? (Ed Perry)
8. 10:04 AM - Re: Fiberglass - Next? (Kyle Boatright)
9. 10:43 AM - Re: Fiberglass - Next? (Elsa & Henry)
10. 11:44 AM - How to fit a 15' wing box in an 8' bed (Will & Lynda Allen)
11. 12:17 PM - Bahama Bound (Scott Brown)
12. 12:19 PM - Re: How to fit a 15' wing box in an 8' bed (Patrick Kelley)
13. 12:22 PM - Leaking Oil Cooler Update (Tom Gummo)
14. 01:07 PM - Re: Bahama Bound (Michael McGee)
15. 01:10 PM - Re: RV-10 (BBreckenridge@att.net)
16. 01:15 PM - Re: How to fit a 15' wing box in an 8' bed (BBreckenridge@att.net)
17. 01:23 PM - Re: Fiberglass - Next? (Ed Perry)
18. 01:58 PM - Re: Fiberglass - Next? (Steve Glasgow)
19. 02:04 PM - Re: How to fit a 15' wing box in an 8' bed (Scott Reichel)
20. 03:30 PM - Re: Re: How to fit a 15' wing box in an 8' bed (Elsa & Henry)
21. 04:32 PM - Re: How to fit a 15' wing box in an 8' bed (David Carter)
22. 09:16 PM - Xcom radio update (Don Mack)
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| Subject: | Re: Yet another new engine |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
http://www.liquidcooledairpower.com/cj-pricing.shtml
At 06:23 PM 7/31/03 -0700, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net>
>
>What ever became of the Lycoming conversion kit that incorporated water
>jackets around the cylinders?
>In spite of the added complexity and weight this adaptation was supposed to
>deal with the shock cooling etc. and provide better power. Did any of these
>units get to the market place? Where they just more vapor ware?
>
>Jim in Kelowna
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Bill Dube" <bdube@al.noaa.gov>
>To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: RV-List: Yet another new engine
>
>
>> --> RV-List message posted by: Bill Dube <bdube@al.noaa.gov>
>>
>> The fuel economy of the diesels appears to be quite good. They
>burn about
>> 2/3s the fuel of a gasoline engine. Firewall-forward weight appears to be
>> equivalent, at least for the two-stroke diesels. Cost also appears to be
>> comparable to Lycoming.
>>
>> It would not surprise me if the reliability turns out to be the
>same or
>> better than Lycoming, once the initial bugs are worked out. The diesels
>are
>> simpler in some ways, but more complicated in others, so it will probably
>> come out even or slightly ahead in terms of reliability. The diesels are
>> water cooled. This adds complexity, (reducing reliability) but greatly
>> suppresses thermal shock and cycling, (enhancing reliability.) There is no
>> ignition system, but there is a high-pressure fuel injection system. In
>the
>> case of the two-stroke diesel, there is no valve train, but there is a
>> supercharger.
>>
>> The DeltaHawk folks <http://www.deltahawk.com> seems to have a
>pretty good
>> design and are targeted towards experimental aircraft. They have just
>> demonstrated (on the test stand) an inverted version of their engine that
>> should slip right into the cowling of an RV. They have been flying an
>> upright version successfully in a Velocity for a few months.
>>
>> When I'm ready to buy an engine, (about a year from now) I figure
>the
>> choice will be pretty clear.
>>
>>
>
>
Scott Bilinski
Eng dept 305
Phone (858) 657-2536
Pager (858) 502-5190
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| Subject: | Re: RV-7 C1C Engine |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Robertson" <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
Dave,
The C1C has a rear facing Injector servo that will interfere with the Stock
Van's engine mount. To use that engine you will have to do one of several
things, alter the engine mount, make a 180 degree adapter for the servo, or
change the sump and inlet tubes to an A1A model sump and tubes.
Other than that no big deal.
Mike Robertson
>From: "Clinchy, Dave" <clinchd@losrios.edu>
>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RV-List: RV-7 C1C Engine
>Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 07:13:01 -0700
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Clinchy, Dave" <clinchd@losrios.edu>
>
>Hi listers,
>
>I'm looking at a potential engine for my RV-7. What do you guys know
>about the IO-360 C1C engine? Are there any installation problems with
>this engine in a RV-7?
>
>Thanks
>Dave Clinchy
>RV-7 Fuse
>Sacramento, CA
>Do not archive
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: PittsS1@aol.com
C1C info
just machine the fwd fi mount. its lite weight magnesiun, slightly
tuned and makes as much if not more hp than the after market hot rod setups. i
know i have 1 with an air flo perf injector. no air cleaner, 4 inch intake into
a small plenum chamber...as much as 32 map on t/o.
so many opinions, ask someone who has done it...questons are invited
m
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| Subject: | Re: Fiberglass - Next? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Perry" <eperry@san.rr.com>
Different person here...I have put the Smooth Prime on and sanded it to a
nice finish. Poly Fiber says to use an epoxy primer to seal the Smooth
Prime. The only epoxy primer that I have used, on internal parts is AKZO,
and I here that paint has a difficult time adhering to it. What kind of
primer is everyone else using? and what color is it? I was told to stick
with white or the paint color would get distorted.
Thanks
Ed Perry
RV-8
49 hours and lots of finish work to go
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kyle Boatright" <kyle.boatright@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Fiberglass - Next?
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright"
<kyle.boatright@adelphia.net>
>
> Use a filling/sanding primer. Fill and sand until smooth, then you're
ready
> for paint.
>
> KB
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Duane Bentley" <dbentley@fuse.net>
> To: <RV-List@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV-List: Fiberglass - Next?
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Duane Bentley" <dbentley@fuse.net>
> >
> > I'm finishing up my RV6 fiberglass work. After accumulating all the
> > insight from the archives, I successfully laid up the windscreen fairing
> > with fiberglass tape and West Systems epoxy. It was a learning
> > experience, but seemed to work well. I used the West Systems epoxy for
> > the final contour with their 410 microlight fairing filler. It's all
> > sanded down easily and looks smooth to the touch and eyes. Now what?
> > Does this need some sort of material coating before a primer and paint?
> >
> >
> > I read in the archives of using straight epoxy as a final coat. That
> > goes on too heavy and uneven and begins to set up way before I'veI used
> > it up. In addition, I found that it needed to be nearly all sanded off
> > to get back to the smooth contour I originally had. Someone in the
> > archives suggested thinning it with acetone, but I was also warned that
> > this could take days to dry, even in 80 deg weather. Do you go next to
> > a primer like K38 or what?
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> > Duane Bentley
> >
> > West Chester, OH
> >
> > RV6 Finishing
> >
> >
>
>
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RV10 <RV10@yahoogroups.com>
| Subject: | [Fwd: The best new thing I saw at OSH...] |
--> RV-List message posted by: Chris W <chrisw3@cox.net>
I just saw this on rec.aviation.piloting and thought everyone here might
be interested
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: The best new thing I saw at OSH...
From: "Dan Luke" <c172rg@bellSPAMsouth.net>
...was Van's new, four-place RV-10. They had a cockpit mockup outside
the
tent for the tirekickers to sit in. The roominess is truly impressive,
especially the rear seats which hold two six-footers in comfort. Van is
projecting an 1100 lb. useful load for the airplane if you build it
light.
http://www.vansaircraft.com/public/rv-10spe.htm
The formal introduction of the airplane was jammed on Wednesday. When
the
crowd was asked how many had already ordered empennage/rear fuse. kits,
a
dozen hands went up. When we were asked how many were thinking about
ordering one, a hundred hands went up (mine included). Van was smiling.
--
Dan
C172RG at BFM
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| Subject: | Re: Fiberglass - Next? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright" <kyle.boatright@adelphia.net>
Ed,
I used smoothprime and used a regular filling primer over it. No problems
after nearly 3 years.
Kyle Boatright
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed Perry" <eperry@san.rr.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Fiberglass - Next?
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Perry" <eperry@san.rr.com>
>
> Different person here...I have put the Smooth Prime on and sanded it to a
> nice finish. Poly Fiber says to use an epoxy primer to seal the Smooth
> Prime. The only epoxy primer that I have used, on internal parts is AKZO,
> and I here that paint has a difficult time adhering to it. What kind of
> primer is everyone else using? and what color is it? I was told to stick
> with white or the paint color would get distorted.
> Thanks
> Ed Perry
> RV-8
> 49 hours and lots of finish work to go
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kyle Boatright" <kyle.boatright@adelphia.net>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Fiberglass - Next?
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright"
> <kyle.boatright@adelphia.net>
> >
> > Use a filling/sanding primer. Fill and sand until smooth, then you're
> ready
> > for paint.
> >
> > KB
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Duane Bentley" <dbentley@fuse.net>
> > To: <RV-List@matronics.com>
> > Subject: RV-List: Fiberglass - Next?
> >
> >
> > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Duane Bentley" <dbentley@fuse.net>
> > >
> > > I'm finishing up my RV6 fiberglass work. After accumulating all the
> > > insight from the archives, I successfully laid up the windscreen
fairing
> > > with fiberglass tape and West Systems epoxy. It was a learning
> > > experience, but seemed to work well. I used the West Systems epoxy
for
> > > the final contour with their 410 microlight fairing filler. It's all
> > > sanded down easily and looks smooth to the touch and eyes. Now what?
> > > Does this need some sort of material coating before a primer and
paint?
> > >
> > >
> > > I read in the archives of using straight epoxy as a final coat. That
> > > goes on too heavy and uneven and begins to set up way before I'veI
used
> > > it up. In addition, I found that it needed to be nearly all sanded
off
> > > to get back to the smooth contour I originally had. Someone in the
> > > archives suggested thinning it with acetone, but I was also warned
that
> > > this could take days to dry, even in 80 deg weather. Do you go next
to
> > > a primer like K38 or what?
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> > > Duane Bentley
> > >
> > > West Chester, OH
> > >
> > > RV6 Finishing
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fiberglass - Next? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Perry" <eperry@san.rr.com>
What is regular "filling primer"? Do you know what brand? I'm looking for
something that I can use to seal the smooth prime.
Thanks,
Ed Perry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kyle Boatright" <kyle.boatright@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Fiberglass - Next?
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright"
<kyle.boatright@adelphia.net>
>
> Ed,
>
> I used smoothprime and used a regular filling primer over it. No problems
> after nearly 3 years.
>
> Kyle Boatright
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ed Perry" <eperry@san.rr.com>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Fiberglass - Next?
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Perry" <eperry@san.rr.com>
> >
> > Different person here...I have put the Smooth Prime on and sanded it to
a
> > nice finish. Poly Fiber says to use an epoxy primer to seal the Smooth
> > Prime. The only epoxy primer that I have used, on internal parts is
AKZO,
> > and I here that paint has a difficult time adhering to it. What kind of
> > primer is everyone else using? and what color is it? I was told to stick
> > with white or the paint color would get distorted.
> > Thanks
> > Ed Perry
> > RV-8
> > 49 hours and lots of finish work to go
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kyle Boatright" <kyle.boatright@adelphia.net>
> > To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Re: RV-List: Fiberglass - Next?
> >
> >
> > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright"
> > <kyle.boatright@adelphia.net>
> > >
> > > Use a filling/sanding primer. Fill and sand until smooth, then you're
> > ready
> > > for paint.
> > >
> > > KB
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Duane Bentley" <dbentley@fuse.net>
> > > To: <RV-List@matronics.com>
> > > Subject: RV-List: Fiberglass - Next?
> > >
> > >
> > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Duane Bentley" <dbentley@fuse.net>
> > > >
> > > > I'm finishing up my RV6 fiberglass work. After accumulating all the
> > > > insight from the archives, I successfully laid up the windscreen
> fairing
> > > > with fiberglass tape and West Systems epoxy. It was a learning
> > > > experience, but seemed to work well. I used the West Systems epoxy
> for
> > > > the final contour with their 410 microlight fairing filler. It's
all
> > > > sanded down easily and looks smooth to the touch and eyes. Now
what?
> > > > Does this need some sort of material coating before a primer and
> paint?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I read in the archives of using straight epoxy as a final coat.
That
> > > > goes on too heavy and uneven and begins to set up way before I'veI
> used
> > > > it up. In addition, I found that it needed to be nearly all sanded
> off
> > > > to get back to the smooth contour I originally had. Someone in the
> > > > archives suggested thinning it with acetone, but I was also warned
> that
> > > > this could take days to dry, even in 80 deg weather. Do you go
next
> to
> > > > a primer like K38 or what?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Duane Bentley
> > > >
> > > > West Chester, OH
> > > >
> > > > RV6 Finishing
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fiberglass - Next? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright" <kyle.boatright@adelphia.net>
Any rattle can primer from your local auto body store will work. I prefer
the sandable ones simply because they fill minor scratches and pits and you
*can* sand 'em if necessary
KB
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed Perry" <eperry@san.rr.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Fiberglass - Next?
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Perry" <eperry@san.rr.com>
>
> What is regular "filling primer"? Do you know what brand? I'm looking for
> something that I can use to seal the smooth prime.
> Thanks,
> Ed Perry
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kyle Boatright" <kyle.boatright@adelphia.net>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Fiberglass - Next?
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright"
> <kyle.boatright@adelphia.net>
> >
> > Ed,
> >
> > I used smoothprime and used a regular filling primer over it. No
problems
> > after nearly 3 years.
> >
> > Kyle Boatright
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ed Perry" <eperry@san.rr.com>
> > To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Re: RV-List: Fiberglass - Next?
> >
> >
> > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Perry" <eperry@san.rr.com>
> > >
> > > Different person here...I have put the Smooth Prime on and sanded it
to
> a
> > > nice finish. Poly Fiber says to use an epoxy primer to seal the Smooth
> > > Prime. The only epoxy primer that I have used, on internal parts is
> AKZO,
> > > and I here that paint has a difficult time adhering to it. What kind
of
> > > primer is everyone else using? and what color is it? I was told to
stick
> > > with white or the paint color would get distorted.
> > > Thanks
> > > Ed Perry
> > > RV-8
> > > 49 hours and lots of finish work to go
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Kyle Boatright" <kyle.boatright@adelphia.net>
> > > To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> > > Subject: Re: RV-List: Fiberglass - Next?
> > >
> > >
> > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright"
> > > <kyle.boatright@adelphia.net>
> > > >
> > > > Use a filling/sanding primer. Fill and sand until smooth, then
you're
> > > ready
> > > > for paint.
> > > >
> > > > KB
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Duane Bentley" <dbentley@fuse.net>
> > > > To: <RV-List@matronics.com>
> > > > Subject: RV-List: Fiberglass - Next?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Duane Bentley" <dbentley@fuse.net>
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm finishing up my RV6 fiberglass work. After accumulating all
the
> > > > > insight from the archives, I successfully laid up the windscreen
> > fairing
> > > > > with fiberglass tape and West Systems epoxy. It was a learning
> > > > > experience, but seemed to work well. I used the West Systems
epoxy
> > for
> > > > > the final contour with their 410 microlight fairing filler. It's
> all
> > > > > sanded down easily and looks smooth to the touch and eyes. Now
> what?
> > > > > Does this need some sort of material coating before a primer and
> > paint?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I read in the archives of using straight epoxy as a final coat.
> That
> > > > > goes on too heavy and uneven and begins to set up way before I'veI
> > used
> > > > > it up. In addition, I found that it needed to be nearly all
sanded
> > off
> > > > > to get back to the smooth contour I originally had. Someone in
the
> > > > > archives suggested thinning it with acetone, but I was also warned
> > that
> > > > > this could take days to dry, even in 80 deg weather. Do you go
> next
> > to
> > > > > a primer like K38 or what?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Duane Bentley
> > > > >
> > > > > West Chester, OH
> > > > >
> > > > > RV6 Finishing
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fiberglass - Next? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Elsa & Henry" <elsa-henry@darlor-watch.com>
I used Dupont 30S "HI SPEED" Platinum Grey (Light) Lacquer Primer Surfacer.
It sprays on easily with a standard spray gun and what I like about is that
you can sand coats after about 15 minutes after application. Great for
filling pin-holes too.
Cheers!!--Henry Hore
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| Subject: | How to fit a 15' wing box in an 8' bed |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Will & Lynda Allen" <linenwool@comcast.net>
Anyone who has picked up their wing kit from Van's them selves with a full
size truck but no roof rack, how did you set it in for a long drive? With a
standard 8' bed and the long box is 15.5' long, I would have 6.5' hanging
out the back of the truck so I thought about resting it at an angle over the
cab and into the bed. Has anyone done it this way? Did it damage the cab of
your truck at all, or worse, the wing parts? Did it ride OK?
I'm picking up my wing kit a week from this Monday so any suggestions
(without modifying my truck ;-) would be appreciated!
Thanks,
-Will Allen
North Bend, Wa.
Trying to finish emp to make room for wings....
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Scott Brown" <scottbrown@precisionjet.com>
Listers,
Have any of you ventured your RV to the bahamas? What kind of paperwork was
necessary for an Experimental to get to the Bahamas. I have taken spam cans
galore to the Bahamas, but never my RV...was wondering if there was any
different procedures that I need to be aware of.
Scott
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| Subject: | How to fit a 15' wing box in an 8' bed |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Patrick Kelley" <webmaster@flion.com>
I moved mine 5 miles from the Rodeway terminal. I put the long box in
first with the tailgate up and the end of the box behind the cab. The
short box went on top with rope over to help hold both boxes down. I
also ran rope to the end of the long box to keep it from sliding
backwards. It rode solid all the way home.
Patrick Kelley - RV-6A - finishing the empennage fiberglas
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Will & Lynda
Allen
Subject: RV-List: How to fit a 15' wing box in an 8' bed
--> RV-List message posted by: "Will & Lynda Allen"
<linenwool@comcast.net>
Anyone who has picked up their wing kit from Van's them selves with a
full
size truck but no roof rack, how did you set it in for a long drive?
With a
standard 8' bed and the long box is 15.5' long, I would have 6.5'
hanging
out the back of the truck so I thought about resting it at an angle over
the
cab and into the bed. Has anyone done it this way? Did it damage the cab
of
your truck at all, or worse, the wing parts? Did it ride OK?
I'm picking up my wing kit a week from this Monday so any suggestions
(without modifying my truck ;-) would be appreciated!
Thanks,
-Will Allen
North Bend, Wa.
Trying to finish emp to make room for wings....
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"Rocket List" <rocket-list@matronics.com>
| Subject: | Leaking Oil Cooler Update |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tom Gummo" <t.gummo@verizon.net>
I got about fifteen replies to my request for a oil cooler repair shop and
they were all "Pacific Oil Cooler."
The cooler was removed and driven down to the shop. The shop was very
helpful and seemed to be very easy to work with. So, I will add my
recommendation to the others for Pacific Oil Cooler. Of course, I might
have to amend my opinion if it still leaks after the repair. :-)
For those who told me to switch to S&W, it is a Stewart Warner 11 fin cooler
but is 30 years old and just needed a little TLC.
Skid was the gentleman who help me and asked lots of questions about
building his own plane. Once the Rocket is back flying, I will give him one
of those "FREE" 40-50 thousand dollars rides. I just about have set the
hook.
Tom Gummo
Apple Valley, CA
Harmon Rocket - 140 hours :-)
down for oil leak :-(
should be back up next week :-)
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| Subject: | Re: Bahama Bound |
--> RV-List message posted by: Michael McGee <jmpcrftr@teleport.com>
Go to your AOPA web site and download the info regarding experimental
aircraft in the Bahamas. There are a bunch of people that have made the
trip. They want your tourist dollar$. There is something new about
permission from the TSA for Caribbean flights to and from the US.
You might want to check out this site, it has a lot of links to info:
http://www.mstewart.net/michael/rv/teamrv/turkscaicos/index.htm
Mike McGee, RV-4 N996RV, O320-E2G, Hillsboro, OR
13B in gestation mode
At 15:09 2003-08-01 -0400, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Scott Brown" <scottbrown@precisionjet.com>
>
>Listers,
>
>Have any of you ventured your RV to the bahamas? What kind of paperwork was
>necessary for an Experimental to get to the Bahamas. I have taken spam cans
>galore to the Bahamas, but never my RV...was wondering if there was any
>different procedures that I need to be aware of.
>
>Scott
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--> RV-List message posted by: BBreckenridge@att.net
>I bought the domain RV-10.org for my future web page/builder's log. Don't
>expect to see anything soon though!
>Brian Denk
>RV8 N94BD
>RV-10 tail ordered
Brian;
Please don't feel abused: I gave my wife a list of possible website addresses to
pick from in
anticipation of developing a builder's website when I actually dive in. Guess
what? She
chose "MyRV-10.org" Your's will be easier to get to, easier to remember, and way
cooler than
mine, but it cracked me up that she picked the one so similar to yours!
We haven't built one before, so we're going to take a local class on construction
techniques to
give us a good start. We figured it didn't matter which model we chose - there's
quite a
learning curve on all of them when you haven't done one before.
Can't wait to start!
Looking forward to the Homecoming Fly-In...
Bruce Breckenridge
RV-10 Tail on order, #18
Pneumatic squeezer ready...
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| Subject: | RE: How to fit a 15' wing box in an 8' bed |
--> RV-List message posted by: BBreckenridge@att.net
>I'm picking up my wing kit a week from this Monday so any suggestions
>(without modifying my truck ;-) would be appreciated!
>Thanks,
>Will Allen
>North Bend, Wa.
>Trying to finish emp to make room for wings....
Of course, the best way is to straddle it under the truck... and avoid speed bumps!
Bruce Breckenridge
Clackamas, OR
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| Subject: | Re: Fiberglass - Next? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Perry" <eperry@san.rr.com>
That sounds pretty easy...
Thanks Kyle,
Ed Perry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kyle Boatright" <kyle.boatright@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Fiberglass - Next?
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright"
<kyle.boatright@adelphia.net>
>
> Any rattle can primer from your local auto body store will work. I prefer
> the sandable ones simply because they fill minor scratches and pits and
you
> *can* sand 'em if necessary
>
> KB
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ed Perry" <eperry@san.rr.com>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Fiberglass - Next?
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Perry" <eperry@san.rr.com>
> >
> > What is regular "filling primer"? Do you know what brand? I'm looking
for
> > something that I can use to seal the smooth prime.
> > Thanks,
> > Ed Perry
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kyle Boatright" <kyle.boatright@adelphia.net>
> > To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Re: RV-List: Fiberglass - Next?
> >
> >
> > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright"
> > <kyle.boatright@adelphia.net>
> > >
> > > Ed,
> > >
> > > I used smoothprime and used a regular filling primer over it. No
> problems
> > > after nearly 3 years.
> > >
> > > Kyle Boatright
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Ed Perry" <eperry@san.rr.com>
> > > To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> > > Subject: Re: RV-List: Fiberglass - Next?
> > >
> > >
> > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Perry" <eperry@san.rr.com>
> > > >
> > > > Different person here...I have put the Smooth Prime on and sanded it
> to
> > a
> > > > nice finish. Poly Fiber says to use an epoxy primer to seal the
Smooth
> > > > Prime. The only epoxy primer that I have used, on internal parts is
> > AKZO,
> > > > and I here that paint has a difficult time adhering to it. What kind
> of
> > > > primer is everyone else using? and what color is it? I was told to
> stick
> > > > with white or the paint color would get distorted.
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Ed Perry
> > > > RV-8
> > > > 49 hours and lots of finish work to go
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Kyle Boatright" <kyle.boatright@adelphia.net>
> > > > To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: RV-List: Fiberglass - Next?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright"
> > > > <kyle.boatright@adelphia.net>
> > > > >
> > > > > Use a filling/sanding primer. Fill and sand until smooth, then
> you're
> > > > ready
> > > > > for paint.
> > > > >
> > > > > KB
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Duane Bentley" <dbentley@fuse.net>
> > > > > To: <RV-List@matronics.com>
> > > > > Subject: RV-List: Fiberglass - Next?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Duane Bentley"
<dbentley@fuse.net>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm finishing up my RV6 fiberglass work. After accumulating all
> the
> > > > > > insight from the archives, I successfully laid up the windscreen
> > > fairing
> > > > > > with fiberglass tape and West Systems epoxy. It was a learning
> > > > > > experience, but seemed to work well. I used the West Systems
> epoxy
> > > for
> > > > > > the final contour with their 410 microlight fairing filler.
It's
> > all
> > > > > > sanded down easily and looks smooth to the touch and eyes. Now
> > what?
> > > > > > Does this need some sort of material coating before a primer and
> > > paint?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I read in the archives of using straight epoxy as a final coat.
> > That
> > > > > > goes on too heavy and uneven and begins to set up way before
I'veI
> > > used
> > > > > > it up. In addition, I found that it needed to be nearly all
> sanded
> > > off
> > > > > > to get back to the smooth contour I originally had. Someone in
> the
> > > > > > archives suggested thinning it with acetone, but I was also
warned
> > > that
> > > > > > this could take days to dry, even in 80 deg weather. Do you go
> > next
> > > to
> > > > > > a primer like K38 or what?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Duane Bentley
> > > > > >
> > > > > > West Chester, OH
> > > > > >
> > > > > > RV6 Finishing
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fiberglass - Next? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
I used the 410 on my cowlings, pants, tips and skirt then sanded. Next I
used UV Smooth prime and sanded. Finally I used Dupont URO sanding primer
on all parts and sanded again.
Next I primed with Dupont primer and finally finished with IMROM.
Everything came out very good.
If you want more detail, let me know off line.
Steve Glasgow
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| Subject: | Re: How to fit a 15' wing box in an 8' bed |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Reichel <scott.reichel@cctechnol.com>
Will,
I'd suggest doing it the safe and easy way, and go rent a 16' trailer.
Good luck!
-Scott
do not archive
At 11:52 AM 8/1/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Will & Lynda Allen" <linenwool@comcast.net>
>
>Anyone who has picked up their wing kit from Van's them selves with a full
>size truck but no roof rack, how did you set it in for a long drive? With a
>standard 8' bed and the long box is 15.5' long, I would have 6.5' hanging
>out the back of the truck so I thought about resting it at an angle over the
>cab and into the bed. Has anyone done it this way? Did it damage the cab of
>your truck at all, or worse, the wing parts? Did it ride OK?
>
>I'm picking up my wing kit a week from this Monday so any suggestions
>(without modifying my truck ;-) would be appreciated!
>
>Thanks,
>
>-Will Allen
>North Bend, Wa.
>Trying to finish emp to make room for wings....
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RE: How to fit a 15' wing box in an 8' bed |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Elsa & Henry" <elsa-henry@darlor-watch.com>
Don't know how they pack wingkits on the other kits, but my -6A kit was
packed in ~8' length boxes (of different height and depth) and the long box
(14 1/2' long by 8" X 10" on the -6) contained the main spar components and
12' long bulk aluminum angle stock . I ordered the entire kit at one time
and picked it up in Watertown NY, 3 hours drive away, in a U-Haul open
trailer hitched to a friend's car. The long box rested on the front fence of
the trailer and cleared the roof of the tow-car handily. ABF freight must
have done a lot of truck transfers because the boxes were damaged by fork
lift tines, ripping off skids. despite that, all the contents were OK. I
made 2 trips because the finishing kit, the largest box, arrived 2 days
later. Just as well because I wouldn't have been able to take it all in one
trip with that trailer.
Cheers!!---Henry Hore
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| Subject: | Re: How to fit a 15' wing box in an 8' bed |
--> RV-List message posted by: "David Carter" <dcarter@datarecall.net>
Borrow a boat trailer (small fishing boat size) - easy to load (low to
ground), easy to tie down and secure it.
- That's how the fellow did it who bought my wing kit. Took it down
I10 from SE Texas into Louisianna.
David Carter
----- Original Message -----
From: "Will & Lynda Allen" <linenwool@comcast.net>
Subject: RV-List: How to fit a 15' wing box in an 8' bed
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Will & Lynda Allen"
<linenwool@comcast.net>
>
> Anyone who has picked up their wing kit from Van's them selves with a full
> size truck but no roof rack, how did you set it in for a long drive? With
a
> standard 8' bed and the long box is 15.5' long, I would have 6.5' hanging
> out the back of the truck so I thought about resting it at an angle over
the
> cab and into the bed. Has anyone done it this way? Did it damage the cab
of
> your truck at all, or worse, the wing parts? Did it ride OK?
>
> I'm picking up my wing kit a week from this Monday so any suggestions
> (without modifying my truck ;-) would be appreciated!
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Will Allen
> North Bend, Wa.
> Trying to finish emp to make room for wings....
>
>
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| Subject: | Xcom radio update |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Don Mack" <don@dmack.net>
I spoke to the blokes at XCom Australia today at OSH.
They are still working on getting the paperwork through the feds. They
expect to be shipping units within 2-3 months. They have a backorder of 300
units.
don mack
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Mack" <don@dmack.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Radios
> I am planning on the Xcom too. Only problem is you still can't buy them in
> the US. They are going to have a booth at OSH so hopefully they will have
> some word. Last I heard, they are still working on FCC approval.
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "lucky macy" <luckymacy@hotmail.com>
> >
> > http://www.mcp.com.au/xcom760/features/features.html
> >
> > how does it stack up against this beauty? This is what I'm considering
as
> a
> > space saver and pretty functional as the specs show
> >
> do not archive
>
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