RV-List Digest Archive

Tue 08/05/03


Total Messages Posted: 27



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     1. 06:05 AM - Full leading edge tank skins (Scott Brown)
     2. 06:47 AM - slick mag gear (RVer273sb@aol.com)
     3. 08:27 AM - PARACHUTE (Scott Brown)
     4. 09:50 AM - Fixed Pitch Props (owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com)
     5. 10:32 AM - New ASEK Survival/Egress Knife (czechsix@juno.com)
     6. 10:43 AM - Re: Renesis Rotary (was: Yet another new engine) (Tracy Crook)
     7. 11:10 AM - Hughes H-1B Crash! (Bill VonDane)
     8. 11:23 AM - Re: [c-a] Hughes H-1B Crash! (Bill VonDane)
     9. 11:58 AM - Hughes H1-B Crash (John)
    10. 01:04 PM - Formation List? (Tedd McHenry)
    11. 01:15 PM - Re: Hughes H-1B Crash! (Evan and Megan Johnson)
    12. 01:26 PM - Low cost fresh air mask for painting Polyurethane paints and such (P M Condon)
    13. 01:37 PM - Bought a GPS @ OSH and kept $350 in my pocket (Joel Haynes)
    14. 02:27 PM - F696 fit to fuselage (Tim Bryan)
    15. 02:30 PM - Re: Renesis Rotary  (Bill Dube)
    16. 02:55 PM - Re: F696 fit to fuselage (Terry Watson)
    17. 03:04 PM - Re: F696 fit to fuselage (Scott Bilinski)
    18. 03:31 PM - Re: F696 fit to fuselage (Jim Jewell)
    19. 04:40 PM - Re: Hughes H1-B Crash (Curt Reimer)
    20. 05:49 PM - Re: Hughes H-1B Crash! (Doug Rozendaal)
    21. 05:53 PM - Re: Bought a GPS @ OSH and kept $350 in my pocket (Doug Rozendaal)
    22. 06:04 PM - Re: Re: STD-1211 (Cy Galley)
    23. 09:07 PM - Best 760 Channel VHF radio for an RV? (Ernest Kells)
    24. 09:42 PM - KI209 & KLN89B Wiring (Richard B. Rauch)
    25. 10:00 PM - Re:  (Vanremog@aol.com)
    26. 10:04 PM - Re: Hughes H1-B Crash (James E. Clark)
    27. 11:45 PM - R-710 rudder horn brace doesn't fit?!? (Will & Lynda Allen)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:05:47 AM PST US
    From: "Scott Brown" <scottbrown@precisionjet.com>
    Subject: Full leading edge tank skins
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Scott Brown" <scottbrown@precisionjet.com> Listers, As you can probably tell, I am cleaning out my hangar. I have some full leading edge tanks skins, for those that would want to make a very large fuel tank. Asking $200 each. If interested, please contact me offline at scottbrown@precisionjet.com. Thanks! Scott


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    Time: 06:47:16 AM PST US
    From: RVer273sb@aol.com
    Subject: slick mag gear
    --> RV-List message posted by: RVer273sb@aol.com Looking for a non impulse slick mag drive gear. Anyone out there have one? Thanks, Stewart RV-4


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    Time: 08:27:10 AM PST US
    From: "Scott Brown" <scottbrown@precisionjet.com>
    Subject: PARACHUTE
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Scott Brown" <scottbrown@precisionjet.com> Listers, I purchased a Pitts awhile back and this chute came with it. I am not going to use it. It is a very thin chute. Would work great for RVs. Chute needs to be repacked. The last time I had that done it was $35 bucks. New slim line chutes are running $1200. Best reasonable fair offer gets the chute. Not interested in low ballers. Scott


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    Time: 09:50:33 AM PST US
    From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
    --> RV-List message posted by:
    From: "Crosley, Rich" <RCROSLEY@HRTEXTRON.TEXTRON.COM>
    Subject: Fixed Pitch Props I am planning on running a Sensenich on a 0-360, RV-8. Which prop seems to be working best for everyone 85" or 86"? Is the cruise prop giving you a descent climb? Rich Crosley Palmdale, CA RV-8


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    Time: 10:32:07 AM PST US
    Subject: New ASEK Survival/Egress Knife
    From: czechsix@juno.com
    --> RV-List message posted by: czechsix@juno.com Guys, has anyone seen the military's new aircraft survival/egress knife? The link below shows a picture of it with some info, and states that it can be purchased on the web for under $50. I could only find one website selling it, and they wanted $89 for it. Anybody aware of a less expensive source? Maybe if a bunch of us were interested, we could do a group order for a discount... --Mark Navratil Cedar Rapids, Iowa RV-8A N2D painting...and still mad at the fly who landed in the fresh paint on my perfectly glossy wheel pant last night just after I finished spraying it. He's dead now. But my wheel pant is flawed...horrors! -----Original Message----- From: James Meade [mailto:jnmeade@southslope.net] Subject: [EAA Chapter 33] ASEK survival knife If I remember right, some club members were discussing what it would take to get out of a plexiglass canopy in the event of a crash. Here is what the Army has developed as a helicopter pilot's survival knife. It cuts seat belts, breaks canopy, etc. http://www.army.mil/usar/news/2003/07jul/asek.html The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!


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    Time: 10:43:07 AM PST US
    From: "Tracy Crook" <lors01@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: Renesis Rotary (was: Yet another new engine)
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Tracy Crook" <lors01@msn.com> Bill, The weight reductions on the Renesis are said to be about 30% compared to the earlier 13B. This is mostly due to the external parts (intake & exhaust) that we don't use for aircraft applications. The core engine is about 5 pounds lighter, nice but not a huge weight savings. The lighter rotors account for the higher usable RPM & HP. The intake system for aircraft use will be nothing like the one in the RX-8. The large improvements in fuel economy are mainly at low throttle settings (which is where it mostly runs in cars). At high throttle the improvement is around 5%, again nice but not huge. The EGT is about 150 - 200 degrees cooler with the new exhaust porting which is very nice. New versions of the EC2 engine management controller for the Renesis are already in the works. Also a new higher ratio gear drive (2.85 : 1) to utilize the higher powerband (250 HP). Also rotates the prop in the "right" direction for those who can't imagine using left rudder on takeoff. If the idea of 8000 rpm just doesn't work for you the Renesis will still make 200 - 210 HP with the current 2.176 : 1 drive at a sedate 6300 rpm. Not bad for an engine package weighing a bit less than an O - 320. The engine will be available as a crate engine but will take awhile for Mazda to fill the pipeline. Mechanic's net price on the engine is around $5750.00, pricey for a car engine but not bad in comparison to a Lyc. Tracy Crook Hopeless Rotorhead > --> RV-List message posted by: Bill Dube <bdube@al.noaa.gov> > > I read that the rotors 14% weigh less on the Renesis. Does the > complete Renesis engine also weigh less than the RX-7 engine? > > Will your electronic control box work with the Renesis engine? > > The Renesis has a three-port induction system with the third port > switched on at high speed. The Mazda folks claim this feature makes a big > difference in fuel economy. How do you plan to work this in the air? Could > this third port be closed for 65% economy cruise? > > How much do these Renesis engines cost? Are the even available in > the USA? Do you plan to resell them, perhaps rebuilt? > > Thanks in advance for the info. > >


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    Time: 11:10:26 AM PST US
    From: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com>
    <rv8list@yahoogroups.com>, "vansairforce" <vansairforce@yahoogroups.com>
    Subject: Hughes H-1B Crash!
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com> I just read on the NTSB site that the replica Hughes H-1B crashed in Yellowstone National Park and the pilot was killed: http://www1.faa.gov/avr/aai/M_0805_N.txt I checked the registration number, and it appears to be the one that was just built by Jim Wright in Cottage Grove, Oregon, and that was supposed to appear at Oshkosh this year: http://www.eaa.org/communications/eaanews/pr/030509_h1b_racer.html -Bill VonDane RV-8A - 115 hrs www.vondane.com www.creativair.com www.epanelbuilder.com


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    Time: 11:23:55 AM PST US
    From: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com>
    <rv8list@yahoogroups.com>, "vansairforce" <vansairforce@yahoogroups.com>
    Subject: Re: [c-a] Hughes H-1B Crash!
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com> Newspaper article: http://www.yellowstone.net/newspaper/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com> <rv8list@yahoogroups.com>; "vansairforce" <vansairforce@yahoogroups.com> Subject: [c-a] Hughes H-1B Crash! I just read on the NTSB site that the replica Hughes H-1B crashed in Yellowstone National Park and the pilot was killed: http://www1.faa.gov/avr/aai/M_0805_N.txt I checked the registration number, and it appears to be the one that was just built by Jim Wright in Cottage Grove, Oregon, and that was supposed to appear at Oshkosh this year: http://www.eaa.org/communications/eaanews/pr/030509_h1b_racer.html -Bill VonDane RV-8A - 115 hrs www.vondane.com www.creativair.com www.epanelbuilder.com


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    Time: 11:58:41 AM PST US
    From: "John" <n1cxo320@salidaco.com>
    Subject: Hughes H1-B Crash
    --> RV-List message posted by: "John" <n1cxo320@salidaco.com> That plane was at OSH and was the most beautiful metal work I have ever seen...it was done so well that seams between adjoining sheets of metal were so tight you couldn't have forced a piece of very thin paper into the crack...in fact, there was no crack. The flush riveting was beyond anything I have ever seen on any military plane, or any RV for that matter, including award winning RV's who's metal work is often outstanding. What a shame for the loss of the pilot most importantly, and for a magnificant piece of artristry., John


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    Time: 01:04:12 PM PST US
    From: Tedd McHenry <tedd@vansairforce.org>
    Aerobatic List <aerobatic-list@matronics.com>
    Subject: Formation List?
    --> RV-List message posted by: Tedd McHenry <tedd@vansairforce.org> I'm thinking of approaching Matt about a formation list. Let me know if you'd be interested in joining it. Yes, I know there's a Yahoo formation group, but I'm not a yahoo. Tedd McHenry Surrey, BC


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    Time: 01:15:04 PM PST US
    From: "Evan and Megan Johnson" <evmeg@snowcrest.net>
    Subject: Re: Hughes H-1B Crash!
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Evan and Megan Johnson" <evmeg@snowcrest.net> Incredibly sad news......not only did we lose a comrade, but one of the nicest airplanes ever built. I got a good look at it at the Golden west fly in a few weeks ago and it made those P-51's look like turds... I'm bummed out.... Evan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com> <rv8list@yahoogroups.com>; "vansairforce" <vansairforce@yahoogroups.com> Subject: RV-List: Hughes H-1B Crash! > --> RV-List message posted by: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com> > > I just read on the NTSB site that the replica Hughes H-1B crashed in Yellowstone National Park and the pilot was killed: > http://www1.faa.gov/avr/aai/M_0805_N.txt > > I checked the registration number, and it appears to be the one that was just built by Jim Wright in Cottage Grove, Oregon, and that was supposed to appear at Oshkosh this year: > http://www.eaa.org/communications/eaanews/pr/030509_h1b_racer.html > > -Bill VonDane > RV-8A - 115 hrs > www.vondane.com > www.creativair.com > www.epanelbuilder.com > >


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    Time: 01:26:22 PM PST US
    From: P M Condon <pcondon@mitre.org>
    Subject: Low cost fresh air mask for painting Polyurethane paints and
    such --> RV-List message posted by: P M Condon <pcondon@mitre.org> Two fellow builders urged me to write this up for the Matronics group since they both made a system like mine after seeing my air system in person in my hanger.... I used my old scuba divers mask I had from 10 years ago when I got my diver certification as a paint mask to supply fresh air (to me) when spraying the "bad" paints. I used a Avery small, light weight air hose, installed a male Avery coupling into the nose area of the mask and with a small 5 dollar pressure regulator I "Tee" into the air for the spray gun and force air into the scuba mask. Exhale thru your mouth and there you have a "fresh air breathing system" for the nasty paints. Divers mask also keeps your eyes protected during mixing and applying the paint. Keey your air compressor up wind and 40 feet or more away from you, and I even use a house box fan to keep "up-up" wind blowing on the compressor to insure real fresh air gets into the compressor since I am breathing the air. Finally, I am using one of those baseball sized, orange inline oil and moisture filter/seporators to the fresh air source to keep any oil fumes(from the compressor) from getting into the breathing air. I suspect I would get fish eye in my paint as a indicator or presence of oil....so far no tell-tail oir present in my paint, so I assume there is no oil in my lungs. System works nice and there is little to no cost here. I balked at the cost of the hobby-air system...at ore then 600 dollars (shipping, tax and handling) I think that excessive. If you purchased everything new, I doubt that you would have 40 to 50 dollars into this "home brew" system.


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    Time: 01:37:23 PM PST US
    From: Joel Haynes <joelhaynes@tds.net>
    Subject: Bought a GPS @ OSH and kept $350 in my pocket
    --> RV-List message posted by: Joel Haynes <joelhaynes@tds.net> RV Listers The following is an unsolicited GPS testimonial. DELETE if not interested. I went to OSH intending to buy a Garmin GPS196 (going price at the show of $850) but ended up with the new Lowrance WAAS Capable AIRMAP 500 ($499) and had $350 left over. If you factor in the fact that the Lowrance unit comes standard with every accessory including MapCreate software to create detailed land maps when you are operating in land or marine mode, the price savings is even greater since Garmin charges significantly more bucks for this feature add on. In aviation mode, the Lowrance unit has a full Americas Jepp database with all intersections, NDBs, VORs etc. as well as class B, C, and D airspace. Jepp updates are available via internet download for only 35 bucks. It has NMEA output through a single COM port supporting baud rates from 1200 to 115,200 so it can be used to drive an autopilot such as the TruTrack. My favorite aviation characteristic is the very nice HSI page with a fully controllable OBS setting allowing you to easily navigate to or from any fix on any radial. This same page also shows course, bearing, track, ETE, GS, Distance, Altitude, and cross track error. Finally, it is very slim and light and fits nicely into a pants pocket when you're on the ground (while maintaining a satelite lock). When you're hiking, it plots trails and allows you to store more waypoints than you would ever need. When traveling, the MapCreate software allows you to load in detailed land maps complete with addresses and map loc! ations of restaurants, hotels, emergency services, etc. in large geographic regions of the U.S. The LCD screen is easy to read but is smaller than the 196 (3.0 inch diagonal versus 3.8 for the garmin). While the HIS graphic is very nice and responsive, the numerical readouts for distance, course, etc.on that page are a bit small (the HSI rose is big). However, it does have a nice backlight feature for dim lighting. It's also very nice in direct sunlight. In an ideal world I would like to have the larger screen of the 196 and the price tag of the AIRMAP 500 but that ain't gonna happen for a while. All in all the 500 gives you a lot of GPS for a great price. Joel Haynes Mazomanie, WI 7a wings finishing up fuse on the way


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    Time: 02:27:56 PM PST US
    From: "Tim Bryan" <tim@bryantechnology.com>
    Subject: F696 fit to fuselage
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" <tim@bryantechnology.com> Hello listers, I have a question regarding the fit of the F696 braket (fuselage to wing tank ). If I were to bolt the bracket to the T605 Tank bracket flat against each other the F696 will not fit flat against the fuselage. Or vice a versa The plans don't show it but am I supposed to install some kind of a wedge spacer on one end or the other? Also I have heard talk of sloting one of these brackets to allow the wings to fold back in a crash without rupturing the tank. Is this so? and if so, which bracket should get the slot? Thanks Tim RV-6 N616TB


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    Time: 02:30:46 PM PST US
    From: Bill Dube <bdube@al.noaa.gov>
    Subject: Re: Renesis Rotary
    --> RV-List message posted by: Bill Dube <bdube@al.noaa.gov> At 01:43 PM 8/5/2003 -0400, you wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Tracy Crook" <lors01@msn.com> > > > The large improvements in fuel economy are mainly at low throttle settings >(which is where it mostly runs in cars). At high throttle the improvement >is around 5%, again nice but not huge. The EGT is about 150 - 200 degrees >cooler with the new exhaust porting which is very nice. I guess the energy is going into the output shaft rather than into the exhaust. >New versions of the EC2 engine management controller for the Renesis are >already in the works. Also a new higher ratio gear drive (2.85 : 1) to >utilize the higher powerband (250 HP). Also rotates the prop in the "right" >direction for those who can't imagine using left rudder on takeoff. If the >idea of 8000 rpm just doesn't work for you the Renesis will still make 200 - >210 HP with the current 2.176 : 1 drive at a sedate 6300 rpm. Not bad for >an engine package weighing a bit less than an O - 320. This Renesis set-up is going to be a screamer. Sounds like we are getting close to 1 lb per HP firewall-forward package weight. With the tight cowl these engines will fit in, this should make a VERY fast RV. I was wondering how they boosted the HP so dramatically without an increase in displacement. Duh, RPM. These engines wear like iron anyway. Do you think sustained operation at this higher RPM will make a difference in the TBO for the engine? >The engine will be available as a crate engine but will take awhile for >Mazda to fill the pipeline. Mechanic's net price on the engine is around >$5750.00, pricey for a car engine but not bad in comparison to a Lyc. > >Tracy Crook >Hopeless Rotorhead You are turning me into one as well. :-)


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    Time: 02:55:47 PM PST US
    From: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com>
    Subject: F696 fit to fuselage
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com> Tim, The instructions for my RV-8A says that the brackets may need to be shaped or rounded to fit the fuselage. As for the slot, Van's has an inexpensive kit that has the instructions and a few small pieces of hardware if I remember correctly, that shows how to do it. I remember that one of Van's tech support guys didn't agree with the instructions and liked his way better. I don't remember what his way was. Terry RV-8A finish Seattle --> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" <tim@bryantechnology.com> Hello listers, I have a question regarding the fit of the F696 braket (fuselage to wing tank ). If I were to bolt the bracket to the T605 Tank bracket flat against each other the F696 will not fit flat against the fuselage. Or vice a versa The plans don't show it but am I supposed to install some kind of a wedge spacer on one end or the other? Also I have heard talk of sloting one of these brackets to allow the wings to fold back in a crash without rupturing the tank. Is this so? and if so, which bracket should get the slot?


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    Time: 03:04:57 PM PST US
    From: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
    Subject: Re: F696 fit to fuselage
    --> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com> You need a big hammer to either open or close the bend. Remember reading that in the instructions. At 02:33 PM 8/5/03 -0700, you wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" <tim@bryantechnology.com> > > > Hello listers, > >I have a question regarding the fit of the F696 braket (fuselage to wing >tank ). If I were to bolt the bracket to the T605 Tank bracket flat against >each other the F696 will not fit flat against the fuselage. Or vice a versa > The plans don't show it but am I supposed to install some kind of a wedge >spacer on one end or the other? > >Also I have heard talk of sloting one of these brackets to allow the wings >to fold back in a crash without rupturing the tank. Is this so? and if so, >which bracket should get the slot? > >Thanks > >Tim RV-6 >N616TB > > Scott Bilinski Eng dept 305 Phone (858) 657-2536 Pager (858) 502-5190


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    Time: 03:31:54 PM PST US
    From: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net>
    Subject: Re: F696 fit to fuselage
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net> Hi Tim, I think you will find reference to bending the fuselage mounted angle either on the drawing or in the instruction manual. I'm working from memory on this, its been about three years since I did this. I remember bending mine in the vise as follows: Clamp in vice with soft jaws in place. Put large flat metal mass on top of the angle flange. Hit with short handle four pound sledge with moderate force. Adjust degree of bent with lighter hits. Trial fit pieces in place on the air frame. Finish shaping of flanges after bending both parts to fit. The slot was not indicated on my older plans and drawings set. the concept came along a bit later and I am not sure if it is now indicated in or on some form of Vans documentation or not. The slot can be in either one of the flanges. As the slot is there primarily to take the load in vertical shear the idea is to get a the slot to have a good close tolerance fit to the bolt shank. I suppose all four brackets could be slotted without loss of attachment integrity. when fitted the bolt should be tightened to a low torqued snug fit to allow the tank to pull cleanly away from the fuselage in the event of mishap.(:-(! Jim in Kelowna > --> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" <tim@bryantechnology.com> > > > Hello listers, > > I have a question regarding the fit of the F696 braket (fuselage to wing > tank ). If I were to bolt the bracket to the T605 Tank bracket flat against > each other the F696 will not fit flat against the fuselage. Or vice a versa > The plans don't show it but am I supposed to install some kind of a wedge > spacer on one end or the other? > > Also I have heard talk of sloting one of these brackets to allow the wings > to fold back in a crash without rupturing the tank. Is this so? and if so, > which bracket should get the slot? > > Thanks > > Tim RV-6 > N616TB > >


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    Time: 04:40:39 PM PST US
    From: "Curt Reimer" <cgreimer@mb.sympatico.ca>
    Subject: Re: Hughes H1-B Crash
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Curt Reimer" <cgreimer@mb.sympatico.ca> I agree with John completely. I only allowed myself a few minutes to look at it at OSH (damn!) but I have never seen an airplane so beautifully built. Not in 10 Oshkoshes attended so far. Inside the wheel wells you could see the gorgeous varnished dark brown mahogany wooden spar joined to the fuselage structure with polished metal brackets. It gave the impression that every single piece of metal on the airplane was polished alloy. It was a work of art. What a terrible shame. I weep for the pilot, his family and the plane. Curt > That plane was at OSH and was the most beautiful metal work I have ever > seen...it was done so well that seams between adjoining sheets of metal were > so tight you couldn't have forced a piece of very thin paper into the > crack...in fact, there was no crack. The flush riveting was beyond anything > I have ever seen on any military plane, or any RV for that matter, including > award winning RV's who's metal work is often outstanding. What a shame for > the loss of the pilot most importantly, and for a magnificant piece of > artristry., > > John > >


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    Time: 05:49:26 PM PST US
    From: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com>
    Subject: Re: Hughes H-1B Crash!
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com> I spoke with Jim Wright for half an hour Monday morning while I was waiting for the WX to clear so I could leave. He was as excited as a school girl at the prom and that was after a whole week at OSH. It was a goregous airplane and it is a terrible shame! Thoughts and prayers to all. Tailwinds, Doug Rozendaal ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com> <rv8list@yahoogroups.com>; "vansairforce" <vansairforce@yahoogroups.com> Subject: RV-List: Hughes H-1B Crash! > --> RV-List message posted by: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com> > > I just read on the NTSB site that the replica Hughes H-1B crashed in Yellowstone National Park and the pilot was killed: > http://www1.faa.gov/avr/aai/M_0805_N.txt > > I checked the registration number, and it appears to be the one that was just built by Jim Wright in Cottage Grove, Oregon, and that was supposed to appear at Oshkosh this year: > http://www.eaa.org/communications/eaanews/pr/030509_h1b_racer.html > > -Bill VonDane > RV-8A - 115 hrs > www.vondane.com > www.creativair.com > www.epanelbuilder.com > >


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    Time: 05:53:11 PM PST US
    From: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com>
    Subject: Re: Bought a GPS @ OSH and kept $350 in my pocket
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com> First of all, didn't you buy a Airmap 100? The biggest reason for a Lowrance over a Garmin is the towers are listed with the altitude to the top in the Lowrance and not in the Garmin. Towers make a great landmark for correlating what you see on the GPS with the ground and the chart, and even better when you scud run you can stay clear of them. Tailwinds, Doug Roaendaal ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel Haynes" <joelhaynes@tds.net> Subject: RV-List: Bought a GPS @ OSH and kept $350 in my pocket


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    Time: 06:04:33 PM PST US
    From: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
    Subject: Re: STD-1211
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org> I wasn't aware that an engine came with both plugs installed. Cy Galley Editor, EAA Safety Programs cgalley@qcbc.org or experimenter@eaa.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Galati" <rick6a@yahoo.com> Subject: RV-List: Re: STD-1211 > --> RV-List message posted by: Rick Galati <rick6a@yahoo.com> > > > The FRONT plug stays for fixed pitch. You remove it for a constant speed > and place another plug at the rear of the front main bearing cavity. > > Cy Galley, TC - Chair, Emergency Aircraft Repair, Oshkosh > > > Cy, > > Your advice seems to be in conflict with Lycoming Service Instruction 1435. I say SEEMS because there may be some ambiguity. According to SI 1435, to configure for fixed pitch operation, the front expansion plug must be removed, and the seal located a few inches aft must be pierced or on some engines, a 1102 pipe plug removed. Then the front expansion plug is replaced with an STD-1211. At least, this is how I interpret SI 1435. > > I don't usually cut and paste another person's post, but we are the RV community and lots of expensive new engines are being shipped. This issue is simply to important to gloss over. Read below. > > Rick: I think there is room for discussion here. I also have a new Lycoming 0-320 D1A. The ENGINE INSTALLATION CHECK LIST says and I quote: "IMPORTANT DOCUMENT. 1)Drain the preservative oil, 2)pre-oil the engine, 3)The crankshaft expansion plug: If the engine installation requires a variable pitch propeller, you must remove the expansion plug from the front of the crankshaft prior to installing the propeller. then it says: IF THE INSTALLATION REQUIRES A FIXED PITCH PROPELLOR, THE PLUG SHOULD STAY IN PLACE." It seems to be in direct conflict with service instruction 1435. I called Lycoming tech. support. He said leave the plug in place, your engine is set up for a fixed pitch propellor. He said this after looking up something on his notes and I think he confirmed with someone else. I am still not confident of what to do. I am 6 to 8 weeks away from hanging my engine, so I thought I would check this group and maybe even call Lycoming back and see if I get the same answer. If! > you want > the BRAND NEW check list that they sent me, email me your fax or address and I will send it to you. Has anyone else noticed this conflict in the instructions or am I missing something. Jack RV9A N489JE > > Rick Galati RV-6A FWF > > > --------------------------------- > >


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    Time: 09:07:04 PM PST US
    From: "Ernest Kells" <ernest.kells@sympatico.ca>
    Subject: Best 760 Channel VHF radio for an RV?
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Ernest Kells" <ernest.kells@sympatico.ca> I have returned from Osh with a big question about which 760 channel VHF is the best choice - for a 2 1/4" hole. Perhaps someone with better experience could give an expert evaluation for the archives, based upon what we heard this year. I am interested in "VALUE", not necessarily the cheapest (or most features). The evaluation criteria should include cost, features, ease of installation, availibility and quality of wiring harnesses, availibility of an integrated Intercom (with wiring harness, etc.), maintenance record, TSO? Quality of documentation, etc., etc. I have looked at the XCOM, MicroAir MA760 and the Becker. Are there others? Anyone interested in taking this question on ? ? Ernest Kells - RV-9A O235-N2C, Wood Prop 90% Complete - Fairings


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    Time: 09:42:02 PM PST US
    From: "Richard B. Rauch" <richardr@apcon.com>
    Subject: KI209 & KLN89B Wiring
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Richard B. Rauch" <richardr@apcon.com> Would anyone have a wiring diagram and pin connections for a KI209 LOC Indicator and KLN89B GPS? Richard B. Rauch Email: richardr@apcon.com APCON, Inc. 17938 SW Upper Boones Ferry Rd. Portland, OR 97224 USA Ph: (503)639-6700 Fax: (503)639-6740 Web: www.apcon.com


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    Time: 10:00:22 PM PST US
    From: Vanremog@aol.com
    Subject: Re:
    --> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com In a message dated 8/5/2003 9:51:13 AM Pacific Daylight Time, owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com writes: > Is the cruise prop giving you a > descent climb? Is that something like "I been down so long, it looks like up". -GV (RV-6A N1GV 642hrs)


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    Time: 10:04:15 PM PST US
    From: "James E. Clark" <james@nextupventures.com>
    Subject: Hughes H1-B Crash
    --> RV-List message posted by: "James E. Clark" <james@nextupventures.com> Ditto Curt. Wow, what a bummer. I too saw the plane for only a couple of minutes or so BUT spent more time talking to the pilot and builder (he said he was one of MANY people who built it). Makes it all so real when the first message you see after getting back from OSH is about the death of probably the last pilot you chatted with while there. Just goes to remind us to be thankful for each day as tommorrow is not promised. James > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Curt Reimer > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 7:41 PM > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV-List: Hughes H1-B Crash > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Curt Reimer" <cgreimer@mb.sympatico.ca> > > I agree with John completely. I only allowed myself a few minutes > to look at > it at OSH (damn!) but I have never seen an airplane so beautifully built. > Not in 10 Oshkoshes attended so far. Inside the wheel wells you could see > the gorgeous varnished dark brown mahogany wooden spar joined to the > fuselage structure with polished metal brackets. It gave the > impression that > every single piece of metal on the airplane was polished alloy. It was a > work of art. > > What a terrible shame. I weep for the pilot, his family and the plane. > > Curt > > > That plane was at OSH and was the most beautiful metal work I have ever > > seen...it was done so well that seams between adjoining sheets of metal > were > > so tight you couldn't have forced a piece of very thin paper into the > > crack...in fact, there was no crack. The flush riveting was beyond > anything > > I have ever seen on any military plane, or any RV for that matter, > including > > award winning RV's who's metal work is often outstanding. What > a shame for > > the loss of the pilot most importantly, and for a magnificant piece of > > artristry., > > > > John > > > > > >


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    Time: 11:45:56 PM PST US
    From: "Will & Lynda Allen" <linenwool@comcast.net>
    Subject: R-710 rudder horn brace doesn't fit?!?
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Will & Lynda Allen" <linenwool@comcast.net> So has anyone else found the pre-drilled holes for the rudder horn brace that attach it to the 704 rib and 405 horn, not to line up? I could not get the holes to line up for the life of me without putting so much stress on the spar and rib that I'm sure it would crack before the plane was finished. The bummer is that if those predrilled holes weren't there, I could've drilled my own holes and it would've fit nicely......doh! I finally moved on to the elevator until I had time to call Van's. So this morning I finally call Van's. Someone there told me this has been a problem for others as well and they are thinking about not predrilling those holes anymore. In the meantime, he said they can't give me a non-predrilled horn brace because they are already fabricated with the holes. He then suggested that I cut off the flange that attaches to the horn and fabricate a new flange that would rivet to the horn and then rivet to the brace. Not my favorite option but I guess it will have to do. Just wondering if anyone else has had this problem as he said, and if so, what solution did you use? -Will Allen North Bend, Wa RV8 emp




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