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1. 04:23 AM - Re: Best 760 Channel VHF radio for an RV? (lucky macy)
2. 05:56 AM - Mason City formation clinic was a great success. Long (mstewart@qa.butler.com)
3. 07:23 AM - Re: RV-7 C1C Engine (Al Mojzisik)
4. 07:29 AM - Fw: Louisiana Centennial of Flight Fly-in Series (Dwpetrus@aol.com)
5. 07:41 AM - Re: Mason City formation clinic was a great success. Long (RV6 Flyer)
6. 07:43 AM - Re: Hughes H-1B Crash! (Al Mojzisik)
7. 08:31 AM - Re: F696 fit to fuselage (DAVID REEL)
8. 09:25 AM - Re: Flop tube resting point (Dean Pichon)
9. 10:41 AM - high voltage cable testers (Aircraft Technical Book Company)
10. 10:52 AM - Constant Speed vs. Fixed Pitch (Eustace Bowhay)
11. 11:25 AM - KT-78A wiring info (Grenwis@aol.com)
12. 02:07 PM - OFF TOPIC... (Bill VonDane)
13. 02:15 PM - Earthlink Fraud !!!Danger!!! (Garry Legare)
14. 02:16 PM - Re: F696 fit to fuselage (Tim Bryan)
15. 04:39 PM - RV-8 BOM (Eric Parlow)
16. 05:13 PM - Re: R-710 rudder horn brace doesn't fit?!? (Charlie & Tupper England)
17. 05:30 PM - Off Airport Landing (JusCash@aol.com)
18. 06:36 PM - Re: Off Airport Landing (Kevin Horton)
19. 06:39 PM - Re: RV-7 C1C Engine (Greg Young)
20. 08:40 PM - Re: F696 fit to fuselage (Emrath)
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| Subject: | Re: Best 760 Channel VHF radio for an RV? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "lucky macy" <luckymacy@hotmail.com>
As discussed previously,
http://www.mcp.com.au/xcom760/comparison/comparison.html
XCOM 760 looks like the best, value or otherwise, but isn't available yet in
the US but supposedly they are close to getting through the paperwork.
Their built in itercom is fully functional (not just a hot mike and you
don't you standby channel when you use it).
good luck!
>From: "Ernest Kells" <ernest.kells@sympatico.ca>
>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RV-List: Best 760 Channel VHF radio for an RV?
>Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 23:58:30 -0400
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Ernest Kells" <ernest.kells@sympatico.ca>
>
>I have returned from Osh with a big question about which 760 channel VHF is
>the best choice - for a 2 1/4" hole. Perhaps someone with better
>experience
>could give an expert evaluation for the archives, based upon what we heard
>this year. I am interested in "VALUE", not necessarily the cheapest (or
>most features).
>The evaluation criteria should include cost, features, ease of
>installation,
>availibility and quality of wiring harnesses, availibility of an integrated
>Intercom (with wiring harness, etc.), maintenance record, TSO? Quality of
>documentation, etc., etc. I have looked at the XCOM, MicroAir MA760 and
>the Becker. Are there others?
>Anyone interested in taking this question on ? ?
>Ernest Kells - RV-9A O235-N2C, Wood Prop
> 90% Complete - Fairings
>
>
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| Subject: | Mason City formation clinic was a great success. Long |
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--> RV-List message posted by: mstewart@qa.butler.com
For those of you who were not able to make the Mason City Iowa formation
clinic a couple of weekends ago, you missed some of the best flying I have
seen. Here is a taste of what you missed.
First the airport.
I was a little skeptical at first, having a clinic out in the middle of no
where like that, but it turned out to be the best location for a clinic we
have had. How's 3 runways 150' wide sound? Four ship formation takeoffs were
a breeze. Traffic pattern busy? NOT!. There were a couple NW flights a day,
and one Cherokee training that we saw in 3 days. It was like having our own
oasis airport with no one to intervene. Even the airport manager came out to
greet us. She of course was happy to see the activity at the airport.
Facilities?
How's air-conditioned hangers sound? Well it was unbelievable. We were able
to cram all the RV's into hangers. Oh, and throw in a little deli on the
field.
Terrain?
The Mason city area is flat flat flat. Beautiful lakes, streams, and
farmland. Everywhere you looked, there was a farm field awaiting the
unwanted prop stoppage.
The People?
How's 2 RV formation flight teams sound? Stu McCurdy had is Falcon Flight
Team, I brought Team RV, and others came from California to Florida. The
newbees that came out got a first hand look into the world of precision
formation demonstration flight by riding with the 2 flight teams in some
demonstrations. Not to mention all the one on one training going on. 3 days
of learning for everyone.
The training?
We start with a very thorough ground school for everyone. Old and new sit
through the ins and outs of a formal formation training class. Then we break
out into a couple of four ship runs with the newsbees right-seating to get a
birds eye view of their end game. We find this a perfect starting point. All
a newbee has to do is watch and take it all in. Then the newbees get to fly
2 ship formations, whilst an instructor right seats with them. Corrections
and training are quickly reinforced this way and the newbee gets instant
reinforcement and feedback. Whilst the newbees are training, others are up
polishing their skills. By day three, it culminates into a large formation
for everyone to participate in. I looked around with great pride many times
at all the aviation learning that was going on.
The Food?
Did I mention that barbeque was flown in from out of state? Sweet corn
boiled in a pot outside the hanger over a wooden fire? I mean you had to be
there to believe it. We ate like kings.
Accommodations?
The hotel was a mile away. There were plenty of cars available provided by
the host. The wives went out shopping during the day, visiting the local
arts festival and dropping in on occasion to make sure the pilots were
behaving themselves.
The host?
I can not give enough praise to the Rozendaal's. Doug and his wife did a
terrific job playing host and had everything in order for us. From cars, to
chairs, to projectors, to food. They were absolutely terrific. And who ever
ordered the a/c in the hanger. Man he was right on. Oh and whilst we were
waiting for the corn to sweeten, Doug took us for rides in his Bird Dog. L-1
I think. What a blast that was. You were first class Doug, many thanks from
all of us.
So what now?
Well next year of course. We decided, and Doug graciously accepted, to keep
this an annual pre-osh event. It is the perfect location, with the perfect
planes, and the most fun of people. We hope to at minimum double the turnout
next year. Lets put Mason City on the map. Hope to see you there.
Mike Stewart
Team RV
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| Subject: | Re: RV-7 C1C Engine |
--> RV-List message posted by: Al Mojzisik <prober@iwaynet.net>
Dave,
I have a C1C and it's really a non-issue to adapt it. It has a magnesium
sump and you can have the front boss machined off to open up a front facing
inlet for the F/I servo. The mag sump is light so you want to keep
it. Then just put a plate on the old boss to cover it up. It's a wide
deck angle valve engine. It's the one that Steve Barnard used to develop
the Holy Cowl for the RV-6 that Sam James now sells.
HTH, AL (Just back from Oshkosh and 7 days in the LRI booth! Good
show though...)
At 07:13 AM 7/31/03 -0700, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Clinchy, Dave" <clinchd@losrios.edu>
>
>Hi listers,
>
>I'm looking at a potential engine for my RV-7. What do you guys know
>about the IO-360 C1C engine? Are there any installation problems with
>this engine in a RV-7?
>
>Thanks
>Dave Clinchy
>RV-7 Fuse
>Sacramento, CA
>Do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Fwd: Louisiana Centennial of Flight Fly-in Series |
HWDJAD@aol.com, jdgummere@dow.com, bobhalsell@yahoo.com, Travlnbus@aol.com,
biff@mchsi.com, jgnorman@tampabay.rr.com, fesspark@email.com,
rrogersjr@jam.rr.com, crogers1@jam.rr.com, RV-LIST@matronics.com
--> RV-List message posted by: Dwpetrus@aol.com
Subject: Louisiana Centennial of Flight Fly-in Series
From: "Troy Toelle" <ttoelle@eaa.org>
Hi Everyone,
Well we've been off for our heat break and now it's time to crank the Louisiana
Centennial of Flight Fly-in Series up again. The next event will be another
event organized by Chapter 614 (yes, a total of 3 this year) and this one will
be unique. Yes, I do know it is still hot so this next event is going to be
mostly indoors and a great one to involve the spouses or significant others.
Here are the details:
1st Annual Paragon Festival of Flight - Sat, Aug 16, 2003, Marksville, LA, Cajun
Band at the airport, shuttle to Casino, $39.95 room rate for first 50 registered
EAA members, $10.00 RV Park for all registered participants, 6 awards, free
Fly-In T shirts to first 100 registrants, free buffets for the first 75 pilots
and spouses who fly in and register, championship golf course,=20beautiful
swimming pool, kid care available, forums of all types, EAA members and spouses
(or friends) special awards banquet and party Sat night, many=20nice door prizes,
and featuring the nationally know "Boogie Kings". Should=20be a great
time for all. Contact Jim Moody at MOODY888@aol.com
After that event, that will leave us five more great events to wrap up the series.
Here is a list of the remaining events to make sure you get every one on
your calendar:
Event No. 6 September 13 Chapter 541 Fly-in, Jennings
Event No. 7 October 11-12 Chapter 514 Fly-in, Houma =20
Event No. 8 October 17-18 Chapter 614 Pineville Fall Fly-in =20
Event No. 9 November 8-9 Chapter 971 Fly-in, Reserve
Event No. 10 December 13-14 Chapter 261 Fly-in, New Orleans Lakefront
Remember our goals for the series - celebrating the centennial, giving the public
an up-close view at sport aviation, and increasing enthusiasm in the aviation
community. The best thing you can do to help us achieve those goals is to
be at every remaining event. Remember that everyone that registers at an event
gets one entry to a year-end drawing for merchandise or services=20donated by
our sponsors. Pilots flying into events get bonus entries for attending multiple
fly-ins. Current sponsors include Pride Aviation, Brignac=20Aviation, Aircraft
Spruce and Specialty Co., Rans Aircraft, Van's Aircraft,=20Angel Flight,
EAA, Lancair and Exxon. More are on the way and additional sponsors are always
welcome.
We are using the Propclear website as our official information and communication
site for the Fly-in series. Please check the calendar and the discussion board
routinely. Here is the address...
http://www.propclear.com/
For further information, please contact the series coordinator Jim Riviere at 225-869-3481
or email rivierja@cox.net.
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| Subject: | Re: Mason City formation clinic was a great success. Long |
--> RV-List message posted by: "RV6 Flyer" <rv6_flyer@hotmail.com>
Mike:
Thanks for the very accurate post. I had planned to write something up but
your words say it better than I can describe.
I had a FANTASTIC time and will be there again next year to help out.
I enjoyed meeting and flying with all the fine Team RV members from Atlanta
as well as the new guys.
Thanks for everything Doug, Stu, and Team RV.
Gary A. Sobek
"My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell,
1,341 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA
http://SoCAL_WVAF.rvproject.com
----Original Message Follows----
From: mstewart@qa.butler.com
teamrv@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RV-List: Mason City formation clinic was a great success. Long
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--> RV-List message posted by: mstewart@qa.butler.com
For those of you who were not able to make the Mason City Iowa formation
clinic a couple of weekends ago, you missed some of the best flying I have
seen. Here is a taste of what you missed.
First the airport.
I was a little skeptical at first, having a clinic out in the middle of no
where like that, but it turned out to be the best location for a clinic we
have had. How's 3 runways 150' wide sound? Four ship formation takeoffs were
a breeze. Traffic pattern busy? NOT!. There were a couple NW flights a day,
and one Cherokee training that we saw in 3 days. It was like having our own
oasis airport with no one to intervene. Even the airport manager came out to
greet us. She of course was happy to see the activity at the airport.
Facilities?
How's air-conditioned hangers sound? Well it was unbelievable. We were able
to cram all the RV's into hangers. Oh, and throw in a little deli on the
field.
Terrain?
The Mason city area is flat flat flat. Beautiful lakes, streams, and
farmland. Everywhere you looked, there was a farm field awaiting the
unwanted prop stoppage.
The People?
How's 2 RV formation flight teams sound? Stu McCurdy had is Falcon Flight
Team, I brought Team RV, and others came from California to Florida. The
newbees that came out got a first hand look into the world of precision
formation demonstration flight by riding with the 2 flight teams in some
demonstrations. Not to mention all the one on one training going on. 3 days
of learning for everyone.
The training?
We start with a very thorough ground school for everyone. Old and new sit
through the ins and outs of a formal formation training class. Then we break
out into a couple of four ship runs with the newsbees right-seating to get a
birds eye view of their end game. We find this a perfect starting point. All
a newbee has to do is watch and take it all in. Then the newbees get to fly
2 ship formations, whilst an instructor right seats with them. Corrections
and training are quickly reinforced this way and the newbee gets instant
reinforcement and feedback. Whilst the newbees are training, others are up
polishing their skills. By day three, it culminates into a large formation
for everyone to participate in. I looked around with great pride many times
at all the aviation learning that was going on.
The Food?
Did I mention that barbeque was flown in from out of state? Sweet corn
boiled in a pot outside the hanger over a wooden fire? I mean you had to be
there to believe it. We ate like kings.
Accommodations?
The hotel was a mile away. There were plenty of cars available provided by
the host. The wives went out shopping during the day, visiting the local
arts festival and dropping in on occasion to make sure the pilots were
behaving themselves.
The host?
I can not give enough praise to the Rozendaal's. Doug and his wife did a
terrific job playing host and had everything in order for us. From cars, to
chairs, to projectors, to food. They were absolutely terrific. And who ever
ordered the a/c in the hanger. Man he was right on. Oh and whilst we were
waiting for the corn to sweeten, Doug took us for rides in his Bird Dog. L-1
I think. What a blast that was. You were first class Doug, many thanks from
all of us.
So what now?
Well next year of course. We decided, and Doug graciously accepted, to keep
this an annual pre-osh event. It is the perfect location, with the perfect
planes, and the most fun of people. We hope to at minimum double the turnout
next year. Lets put Mason City on the map. Hope to see you there.
Mike Stewart
Team RV
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| Subject: | Re: Hughes H-1B Crash! |
--> RV-List message posted by: Al Mojzisik <prober@iwaynet.net>
>I saw the H-1B on the ramp on Sunday before the show actually started and
>I had time to actually bicycle around with my daughter. I went nuts when
>I saw that plane. I think I took about about half a dozen pictures of
>it. It was the most beautiful airplane I had ever seen. Fortunately I
>had the opportunity to thank Jim Wright for building it so that I could
>see it and act like a fool drooling over it. Even my daughter remarked
>how she had never seen me react to an airplane like that. I just couldn't
>get over the workmanship and style that the airplane projected as it sat
>on the ramp. Not even moving it looked like it was doing 300! It was a
>piece of artwork as well as a functioning airplane. I get my pictures
>developed today so I will look at them with great sadness. Mr.
>Wright was a very proud and humble owner and made sure you knew that he
>had a lot of help building it. He will be missed. My prayers go out for
>him and his family. (I hope that doesn't offend anyone!) AL
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| Subject: | Re: F696 fit to fuselage |
--> RV-List message posted by: "DAVID REEL" <dreel@cox.net>
On my 8A, the slot goes in the tank bracket. Leaving the fuselage bracket whole
allows you to rivet a MK1000-428 minature platenut to the aft side of the bracket
with the tabs of the platenut oriented to parallel the slot. A precise
hole and properly oriented platenut stabilizes the attach bolt so it is less likely
to twist and catch if the fuel tank is being ripped off.
Dave Reel - RV8A
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| Subject: | Re: Flop tube resting point |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dean Pichon" <DeanPichon@msn.com>
I have flop tubes in both tanks of my -4. The pick-up from each tube is located
directly over the drain hole. I have not experienced any problems. Shortening
the tube would increase the amount of unuseable fuel without (in my opinion)
improving function.
Good luck,
Dean Pichon
RV-4, 150 hours
Morgantown, WV
----- Original Message -----
From: James Jula
Subject: RV-List: Flop tube resting point
--> RV-List message posted by: "James Jula" <jmjula@comcast.net>
I just checked the resting position of the flop tube and noticed that the
head rests in the center of the drain hole. There appears to be adequate
room for water and debris to be drained, but it still worries me a bit. I
could shorten it, but is that necessary?
Thanks,
James
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| Subject: | high voltage cable testers |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Aircraft Technical Book Company" <winterland@rkymtnhi.com>
My high voltage cable tester keeps blowing fuses after 2-3 seconds of use.
Can anyone advise if this problem could have anything to do with the
ignition system, as opossed to simply the tester going bad?
For a little history, during my annual I found an intermittent cable to the
plug on Cylinder 4T. So, I replaced it. At that time, the tester worked
fine on it and the other 7 leads. After the replacement, I took a 20 minute
flight. About 10 minutes into the flight, every 2-3 minutes the engine
would lose and quickly regain about 100 rpm. I never noticed it on the
tach. The sensation was only audible. All else on the engine is good;
compression, timing, temps and pressures, rpm, smoothness.
I suspected a bad cable as that was what just changed, so I went to recheck
them, which is where I found the problem with the tester blowing fuses.
Any advise would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Andy
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| Subject: | Constant Speed vs. Fixed Pitch |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Eustace Bowhay" <ebowhay@jetstream.net>
This subject comes up regularly on the list and is all in the achieves. For those
who are interested go into the achieves and search under "ebowhay" then go
to Oct/98 and you will find my post on the Sensenich 72FM propeller. Then go to
Jan/99 and find "Engines Care and Feeding", print a copy of each and compare
the info.
The Sensenich prop was just as good as the constant speed in cruise, however it
was not possible to cruise at the setting I prefer, between 65 and 70 % (2350-2400
and 21-22 inches manifold pressure). It was turning 2500 at 20.5, it would
need a bit courser pitch to run at 24 and 21-22 but then take-off and climb
performance would be lower. A fixed pitch prop is a compromise, but what's wrong
with 175-180 mph at 2400 and 19 inches? The constant speed will not do that
at that setting, you would have to be at 2400 and 21-22. I am sure the speeds
will vary between different RV6's but this was the numbers we got in Holmer's
aircraft. Also in the case of an engine failure you will glide a lot further
with the fixed pitch than the constant speed if you forget to select course
pitch, and this is dependent on oil pressure.
On the subject of the "Care and feeding"which requires a constant speed prop, I
am sure many will disagree with this or say I am too nit-picky but these procedures
have proved to be the best contributions to long engine life and safety
in my experience. My hair starts to curl and get a bit whiter than it already
is when I hear of some running at near redline RPM's and over.
Eustace Bowhay Blind Bay, B.C.
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| Subject: | KT-78A wiring info |
--> RV-List message posted by: Grenwis@aol.com
I bought a used KT-78A transponder without the manual. If anyone has that
manual, can you please provide the pinout number/letter and functional
description info for the unit. I have the manual for the encoder so I can match
by
function for the A1, A2, A4, etc lines. Many thanks.
Rick Grenwis
RV-6A QB Slider, Instrument Panel
<A HREF="http://rickgrenwis.tripod.com/rv6a">http://rickgrenwis.tripod.com/rv6a
The Plains, VA
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"vansairforce" <vansairforce@yahoogroups.com>,
<canard-aviators@yahoogroups.com>
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com>
Sorry for the off topic message, but I have been on the Internet all day trying
to find a GOOD Windows Administration Email list... I am looking for a group
of KNOWLEDGEABLE Windows Administrators to correspond with...
If you know of such a plane, please contact me off list:
-Bill
bill@vondane.com
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| Subject: | Earthlink Fraud !!!Danger!!! |
--> RV-List message posted by: Garry Legare <versadek@earthlink.net>
There is a very official looking Email going out to Earthlink
subscribers. It looks like a request to update your account information.
It almost fooled me except it was asking way too much information, and I
noticed that it was from earthlink.com not .net.
I know this is not RV related, but it could cost you big time.
Casper
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| Subject: | Re: F696 fit to fuselage |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" <tim@bryantechnology.com>
Thanks to all who have replied regarding this. I took the bracket to my
vise and squeezed it in there until the angle opened up to the right angle.
I had do do it several times because I was too shy to get after it, but it
is perfect now. I have soft jaws in my vise and it took a little pressure
but got it done.=0D
=0D
After I get done fitting I will remove the wing and slot the tank bracket=2E=0D
=0D
Thanks Again=0D
Tim=0D
RV-6 N616TB=0D
DNA =0D
=0D
-------Original Message-------=0D
=0D
From: rv-list@matronics.com=0D
Subject: Re: RV-List: F696 fit to fuselage=0D
=0D
--> RV-List message posted by: "DAVID REEL" <dreel@cox.net>=0D
=0D
On my 8A, the slot goes in the tank bracket. Leaving the fuselage bracket
whole allows you to rivet a MK1000-428 minature platenut to the aft side of
the bracket with the tabs of the platenut oriented to parallel the slot. A
precise hole and properly oriented platenut stabilizes the attach bolt so it
is less likely to twist and catch if the fuel tank is being ripped off. =0D
=0D
Dave Reel - RV8A=0D
=0D
=0D
=0D
=0D
=0D
=0D
=2E
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Eric Parlow" <ericparlow@hotmail.com>
I'm working on an estimated costed Bill Of Material (BOM) for my RV-8A. It
will be used for getting quotes. I want to make it as complete as possible
down to lighting, paint, interior, etc. Can anyone suggest where I might
find one or more for reference?
ERic--
RV-8A
Asheville, NC
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| Subject: | Re: R-710 rudder horn brace doesn't fit?!? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie & Tupper England <cengland@netdoor.com>
Will & Lynda Allen wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Will & Lynda Allen" <linenwool@comcast.net>
>
>So has anyone else found the pre-drilled holes for the rudder horn brace
>that attach it to the 704 rib and 405 horn, not to line up? I could not get
>the holes to line up for the life of me without putting so much stress on
>the spar and rib that I'm sure it would crack before the plane was finished.
>The bummer is that if those predrilled holes weren't there, I could've
>drilled my own holes and it would've fit nicely......doh! I finally moved
>on to the elevator until I had time to call Van's.
>
>So this morning I finally call Van's. Someone there told me this has been a
>problem for others as well and they are thinking about not predrilling those
>holes anymore. In the meantime, he said they can't give me a non-predrilled
>horn brace because they are already fabricated with the holes. He then
>suggested that I cut off the flange that attaches to the horn and fabricate
>a new flange that would rivet to the horn and then rivet to the brace. Not
>my favorite option but I guess it will have to do. Just wondering if anyone
>else has had this problem as he said, and if so, what solution did you use?
>
>-Will Allen
>North Bend, Wa
>RV8 emp
>
I just did that assembly on my -7 (actually the -9) rudder & the holes
attaching the brace to the rib's web & the spar's web fit fine on mine.
I had to drill the holes attaching the brace to the rib flanges. (I
couldn't find anything in the instructions about the need to drill these
holes, but it's pretty obvious they are needed.) Are those the holes you
are talking about? My kit was shipped sometime around March/early April
of this year. Perhaps they changed the drilling scheme after yours was
built.
They acknowledged that this is a known problem? I'm going to go way out
on a limb here & suggest that Van's send you parts that fit. You did pay
for that, right? (If the problem holes are in the webs & not the
flanges, you might be able to drill between the existing holes if they
won't send a replacement.)
Charlie
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| Subject: | Off Airport Landing |
--> RV-List message posted by: JusCash@aol.com
With the loss of the H1-B I feel very, very lucky.=A0 This past Saturday I had
to make an off airport landing in a hay field.=A0 The landing gear legs are
bent
and the motor mount is cracked.=A0 No other major damage except for the
wheelpants.=A0 On approach to Hollister the engine quit when I switched tanks.=A0
Couldn't get it restarted so I concentrated on flying the airplane.=A0 The hay
had just
been cut so the field wasn't to rough.=A0 Walked to the airport and got help to
tow it in on it's gear.=A0
My problem is Van's has an 8 to 10 week backlog on motor mounts and gear
legs.
Is there anyone on the list with an RV-6 or RV-7 motor mount and gear legs
that they won't be using for 8 to 10 weeks?=A0 Or expecting a finish kit soon
and
not needing the mount and legs right away. If anyone can help me out I would
really appreciate it.
Cash Copeland
RV-6 N46FC
Hayward, Ca
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| Subject: | Re: Off Airport Landing |
--> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorto1537@rogers.com>
>--> RV-List message posted by: JusCash@aol.com
>
>
>With the loss of the H1-B I feel very, very lucky.=A0 This past Saturday I had
>to make an off airport landing in a hay field.=A0 The landing gear legs are
>bent
>and the motor mount is cracked.=A0 No other major damage except for the
>wheelpants.=A0 On approach to Hollister the engine quit when I
>switched tanks.=A0
>
>Couldn't get it restarted so I concentrated on flying the airplane.=A0 The hay
>had just
>been cut so the field wasn't to rough.=A0 Walked to the airport and
>got help to
>
>tow it in on it's gear.=A0
>
>My problem is Van's has an 8 to 10 week backlog on motor mounts and gear
>legs.
>Is there anyone on the list with an RV-6 or RV-7 motor mount and gear legs
>that they won't be using for 8 to 10 weeks?=A0 Or expecting a finish kit soon
>and
>not needing the mount and legs right away. If anyone can help me out I would
>really appreciate it.
>
>Cash Copeland
Cash - great job on keeping your priorities straight and flying the
airplane first.
I'm interested in learning why the engine quit, if you ever figure it
out. How much fuel was in the tank you switched to? How long since
it had run on that tank? Were you sideslipping? Could the fuel
pickup have rotated up a bit, so that it was away from the bottom of
the tank (assuming you don't have a flop tube). Or, if you have a
flop tube, could it have hung up?
I'm just hoping to learn as much from your experience as I can, so I
can avoid repeating it myself.
Good luck getting the plane back in the air quickly.
--
Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit)
Ottawa, Canada
http://go.phpwebhosting.com/~khorton/rv8/
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Greg Young" <gyoung@cs-sol.com>
I used a C sump on a parallel valve O-360, on a -6 and it's not so simple.
Machining the front boss and covering the rear opening is straight forward
albeit expensive if you don't have a machinist buddy. However the further
aft location of the sump interfered with the engine mount tubes that run
from the lower mount cones to the lower-center fuselage mount bolts. I cut
them and welded new pieces to the tube that connect the gear mounts. I also
added an oil boss for inverted pick-up. The magnesium one is ~$200 plus
you'll need to find someone who can weld magnesium (not cheap either.) At
least the angle valve shouldn't require making new intake tubes and spacers.
You might consider swapping the sump to an "A" model.
Regards,
Greg Young - Houston (DWH)
RV-6 N6GY ...project Phoenix
Navion N5221K - just an XXL RV-6A
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Al Mojzisik
Cc:
Subject: Re: RV-List: RV-7 C1C Engine
--> RV-List message posted by: Al Mojzisik <prober@iwaynet.net>
Dave,
I have a C1C and it's really a non-issue to adapt it. It has a magnesium
sump and you can have the front boss machined off to open up a front facing
inlet for the F/I servo. The mag sump is light so you want to keep
it. Then just put a plate on the old boss to cover it up. It's a wide
deck angle valve engine. It's the one that Steve Barnard used to develop
the Holy Cowl for the RV-6 that Sam James now sells.
HTH, AL (Just back from Oshkosh and 7 days in the LRI booth! Good
show though...)
At 07:13 AM 7/31/03 -0700, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Clinchy, Dave" <clinchd@losrios.edu>
>
>Hi listers,
>
>I'm looking at a potential engine for my RV-7. What do you guys know
>about the IO-360 C1C engine? Are there any installation problems with
>this engine in a RV-7?
>
>Thanks
>Dave Clinchy
>RV-7 Fuse
>Sacramento, CA
>Do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: F696 fit to fuselage |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Emrath" <emrath@comcast.net>
Tim,
My RV-6A plans call for the slot to be in the tank angle. On the
fuselage angle I'm to rivet on a nut plate. The bolt is also safety
wired. All parts came in my kit, except for the safety wire (but I'm not
complaining one bit). This was also written up in a past Rvaitor and I
think Van's has a kit of the parts to do this. A rather large washer is
also needed.
As for the bending the angle, I had to "open" up the 90 degree angle as
the fuselage is tapering to the firewall at this point and so isn't flat
to the fuselage when held in position flat against the tank angle. I
put the fuselage angle in my padded vise and used a large, large, big
even, crescent wrench to bent the angle upwards to open the mouth of the
angle a few degrees. Not too much. Each side was different. Remember
to pad the jaws on the crescent wrench with some 'go fast' tape. Hope
this helps.
Marty in Brentwood, TN
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