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1. 03:56 AM - 9th Annual RV Forum, EAA486 Fulton NY (RV6160hp@aol.com)
2. 04:00 AM - KGED Delaware area? (RV6160hp@aol.com)
3. 04:23 AM - Re: Wing Building Sequence-Your Opinion Please (Dana Overall)
4. 07:50 AM - Re: Where to mount Whelen power supply (Elsa & Henry)
5. 07:53 AM - Re: Opting out... (Dwpetrus@aol.com)
6. 08:05 AM - Re: Headphone Jacks (Tim Bryan)
7. 08:13 AM - Night Vision (Warren W Hurd)
8. 09:10 AM - Re: Where to mount Whelen power supply (Greg Young)
9. 09:14 AM - Re: Night Vision (David Burton)
10. 09:46 AM - Re: Where to mount Whelen power supply (Pat Hatch)
11. 09:57 AM - Re: RV-List Digest: 37 Msgs - 08/26/03 (PSPRV6A@aol.com)
12. 10:57 AM - Re: Where to mount Whelen power supply (Dan Checkoway)
13. 11:33 AM - Re: Where to mount Whelen power supply (Karie Daniel)
14. 11:50 AM - RV aerobatics techniques and speeds (Matt Smith)
15. 12:04 PM - Ordering Tools (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
16. 01:31 PM - Re: RV aerobatics techniques and speeds (mstewart@qa.butler.com)
17. 01:52 PM - Archer VOR antenna and Garmin 430 (Laird Owens)
18. 02:21 PM - [SoCAL-RVlist] Re: Archer VOR antenna and Garmin 430 (Laird Owens)
19. 02:27 PM - Re: RV aerobatics techniques and speeds (George McNutt)
20. 02:38 PM - Re: Archer VOR antenna and Garmin 430 (Richard Dudley)
21. 02:59 PM - Dynon releases EFIS-D10 Magnetic Calibration Program (dmedema@att.net)
22. 04:08 PM - Re: Where to mount Whelen power supply (Dana Overall)
23. 04:27 PM - Access to bolts to VS to fuse. (David R. Cook)
24. 04:37 PM - Re: Night Vision (Paul Besing)
25. 04:54 PM - Re: Ordering Tools (Ron Walker)
26. 05:34 PM - Re: Atlanta area RVer's freindly airport near downtown Atlanta (C. Rabaut)
27. 05:45 PM - Aeroflash vs. Whelen Strobes ()
28. 06:16 PM - Re: Aeroflash vs. Whelen Strobes (Kyle Boatright)
29. 07:34 PM - Re:Aeroflash vs. Whelen Strobes (Oldsfolks@aol.com)
30. 07:35 PM - fuel flo sensor and high pressure fuel pump (Wayne Pedersen)
31. 07:41 PM - Re: RV Aerobatic Speeds (Oldsfolks@aol.com)
32. 07:49 PM - Re: Ordering Tools (Bob Hassel)
33. 08:43 PM - Order of Events.... (RV6AOKC@aol.com)
34. 08:43 PM - Re: Re: RV Aerobatic Speeds (James E. Clark)
35. 09:56 PM - Exporting / Importing to the States (Brian W. Truitt)
36. 11:43 PM - Re: fuel flo sensor and high pressure fuel pump (Dan Checkoway)
37. 11:49 PM - Re: Where to mount Whelen power supply (Karie Daniel)
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| Subject: | 9th Annual RV Forum, EAA486 Fulton NY |
--> RV-List message posted by: RV6160hp@aol.com
Mark your calendars and plan to attend.
September 12, 2003 Friday night fly in, cook out and camp out. The EAA 486 General
meeting night too. September 13, 2003 Saturday technical seminars all day,
meals provided to paid attendee's. Then a nice dinner banquet with a presentation.
This year Mr. Kirk House, ex-Director Curator of the Glenn Cirtiss Museum
will talk about the books on Glenn he wrote, and how Glenn was the ultimate
Experimenter!
September 14, 2003 Sunday AM our great pancake breakfast and perhaps a coordinated
fly out for lunch, planes, weather and pilots willing.
see us at www.eaachapter486.com
We will be updating our site soon with the 2003 plans.
Last year over 56 RV's and 25 SPAM's flew in with over 150 attendee's. There was
Mike Seager and the Factory RV6 doing instruction and manufacturers like Lycoming
and Aerospace logic with tables displaying and selling their wares.
I could go on...but you get the picture...just ask some one who has been there
the $45 is easily worth it. Hope to See you all there.
Respectfully,
David McManmon
President EAA 486
RV6 Flying, Builder, Pilot N58DM
DNA
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| Subject: | KGED Delaware area? |
--> RV-List message posted by: RV6160hp@aol.com
Listers,
May have to bust out of Oswego Co. (KFZY) 1 day early to KGED airport.
Have beach home invite Sunday on....
VFR forcast Sunday or Monday not favorable here then though...
Put me up for a night and we'll do an hour in the plane.
I'd gladly examine projects and/or visit with a group....
Open for suggestions...
Food for thought...replies appreciated off list at McManD@aol.com
Regards
David McManmon
President EAA 486
RV6 Flying, Builder, Pilot N58DM
see first flight at: www.eaachapter486.com
DNA
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Building Sequence-Your Opinion Please |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
Glenn,
After sitting on your question for a day, I can't come up with any good
reason at all to build the control surfaces first on the pre punched kits.
The holes for the aileron center bracket are already punched. The outer
bracket, at least on the 7, is prepunched on the aft spar but you still have
to drill 3-4 holes on the side flange through the outer rib. The flap is
positioned to get 1/4" separation for the aileron before you drill the hinge
so you have to have the wing finished to do that.
On the prepunched stuff, you don't use the control surfaces to settle any
kind alignment issues. It's just plug and play. With that said, you could
build the control surfaces first, as they will fit the wing when you
complete it. However, you would not accomplish anything, other than having
a bunch of control surfaces sitting in the corner, by working out of
sequence.
Dana Overall
Richmond, KY
RV-7 slider/fuselage
Finish kit ordered!! Buying Instruments. Hangar flying my Dynon.
http://rvflying.tripod.com
do not archive
Get MSN 8 and help protect your children with advanced parental controls.
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| Subject: | Re: Where to mount Whelen power supply |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Elsa & Henry" <elsa-henry@darlor-watch.com>
Hi Karie,
I have addressed the location of the Whelen power supplies on previous posts
and to answer your question re installing it under the seats (or baggage
compartment), from my experience, is the best place to put it because noise
radiation from the wiring is enclosed and shielded by the fuselage
structure. I don't know how the wiring kit came from Van's but the kit I
bought at OSH a few years back, had four Molex connectors with pig-tails
which must be spliced to the shielded wiring to the wings and tail (my case)
lights and the power supply wires. So the shielding integrity is interrupted
by these splices, therefore a noise source, which is contained within the
area.
The nice thing of putting the PS there is the wiring does not have to pass
through the wing spars, as it would if it is mounted in a forward area,
assuming, of course, that the wiring to the wing tips runs aft of the spar.
Make sure that the shields on the wires are grounded at the power supply end
ONLY!
Cheers!!------Henry Hore
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| Subject: | Re: Opting out... |
--> RV-List message posted by: Dwpetrus@aol.com
Well done Kristen, I also beleive as you do that Jim would have felt that way
too.
Wayne Petrus
RV8a
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| Subject: | Re: Headphone Jacks |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" <tim@bryantechnology.com>
Stein,
Thanks for the heads up on your comment. The AV guy labeled the cables and
individual wires for me, but I will double check that I didn't miss anything
Also, I used heat shrink on the wire when I connected them to the jack to
prevent anything stray. The Jacks are pretty vulnerable the way they are
designed of course. Also because of the proximity to each other, I wondered
if
they were touching when installed but couldn't see anything like that. Will
look further,
They seem to work perfect when not installed in the panel. Leads me to
think the PTT wire is connected to the outer ground ring. Well at least I
know what to look for.
Thanks
Tim
-------Original Message-------
From: rv-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV-List: Headphone Jacks
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com>
Guys,
The insulators on the jacks are NOT to prevent the mic ground/tx switching,
but to prevent ground loops and "noise" from enterring your audio path. If
the jacks and harness are wire correctly, they should work regardless if the
jacks are installed with our without the insulators. I've wired up lots of
radios and Intercoms, and many times things like this are an errant wire, or
the mic jack wired incorrectly. Don't take this note negatively, just want
people to make sure they aren't using the insulators to "band-aid" another
potential problem.
Cheers,
Stein Bruch
RV6, N664SB
RV6, N64YU
http://www.steinair.com
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Harvey Sigmon" <rv6hes@comcast.net>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Harvey Sigmon" <rv6hes@comcast.net>
>
>Tim : What happens is the jacks are suppose to be insulated from ground,
>when you wired them to the panel without the insulators they created a
>ground path, I had a similar situation but my plug shorted to ground. Do
>you happen to have some spare jack insulators?
>Harvey Sigmon RV-6A Flying
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Tim Bryan" <tim@bryantechnology.com>
>To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RV-List: Headphone Jacks
>
>
>> --> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" <tim@bryantechnology.com>
>>
>>
>> Any radio gurus out there?
>>
>> First, since my panel was pre wired for me , I can't believe how much
wire
>I
>> had to still run. But, it is all in and almost all terminated inside the
>> airplane. I had originally planned on putting my headset jacks in the
>back
>> somewhere and therefore the wire was not connected to the jacks. I did
>have
>> the labeling for the wires.
>>
>> The question is this. I fired up my panel and turned on my SL15M first as
>> part of my check out. The transmit light came on and stayed on. So after
>> powering it down, I looked under the panel at my jacks to confirm nothing
>> was touching accross the PTT leads or any other for that matter. Still no
>> success, so I removed them from the panel and pluged my headsets in,
>turned
>> it on... Perfect. Of course turning my radio on next was most excellent
>to
>> hear Redmond tower.
>>
>> I installed the two insulators on the jacks, one front and one back. What
>could be causing them to key up for transmit?
>>
>>
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: Warren W Hurd <warren@ahyup.com>
I was just reading the AOPA Pilot magazine article on night flight. Has
anyone used night vision goggles to tell the difference between forest
and field at night? I am talking about surplus type of goggle like the
Harbor freight import.
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=47626
Would such a goggle be of any use for improving safety of night flight?
Warren Hurd
90454 Wings
http://www.ahyup.com (builders page)
Do Not Archive (yet)
Should be building and not reading
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| Subject: | Where to mount Whelen power supply |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Greg Young" <gyoung@cs-sol.com>
Before you mount the power supply (or anything else) under the seat,
consider that this is a crumple zone in the event of a crash/hard landing
and whether you would want that object in intimate contact with your
posterior. (Fill-in your own bad jokes here;-)
Regards,
Greg Young - Houston (DWH)
RV-6 N6GY ...project Phoenix
Navion N5221K - just an XXL RV-6A
<snip>
> I have addressed the location of the Whelen power supplies on
> previous posts and to answer your question re installing it
> under the seats (or baggage compartment), from my experience,
> is the best place to put it because noise radiation from the
> wiring is enclosed and shielded by the fuselage structure. I
> don't know how the wiring kit came from Van's but the kit I
> bought at OSH a few years back, had four Molex connectors
> with pig-tails which must be spliced to the shielded wiring
> to the wings and tail (my case) lights and the power supply
> wires. So the shielding integrity is interrupted by these
> splices, therefore a noise source, which is contained within the area.
>
> The nice thing of putting the PS there is the wiring does not
> have to pass through the wing spars, as it would if it is
> mounted in a forward area, assuming, of course, that the
> wiring to the wing tips runs aft of the spar.
<snip>
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| Subject: | Re: Night Vision |
--> RV-List message posted by: "David Burton" <dburton@nwlink.com>
> I was just reading the AOPA Pilot magazine article on night flight. Has
> anyone used night vision goggles to tell the difference between forest
> and field at night? I am talking about surplus type of goggle like the
> Harbor freight import.
> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=47626
> Would such a goggle be of any use for improving safety of night flight?
I've used generation 1, 2 and 3 goggles. There are several issues with them.
The early models have poor resolution and light intensifying capability.
Since you are looking at a tv screen and not at the actual image the
resolution is very important. Cheap models (Costco, Harbor Freight, Sam's
etc.) usually are gen 1 and do not work well. Gen 1 is 1960s technology,
can you imagine using a 1960s computer today? Gen 2 are a big improvement
over gen 1 but still are not real great. They are Desert Storm vintage.
Same deal. Could you stand to use a 1980's computer? The close up
resolution is good but the poor light gathering and intensification make
distance resolution tough. Gen 3 are daylight vision with great resolution.
They work as you might imagine night vision should. The earlier models are
not that useful. Since you are looking at a bright tv screen you can kiss
your night vision goodbye when you take the goggles off. The field of view
is very limited. The focus is adjustable, but you can only see near or
far... With the focus adjusted to see the ground, you can not read the
instrument panel or visa versa. The goggles I'm familiar with are not fast
to change the focus on. With mine you can set one eye to close focus and
one to far. This can let you see your instruments and the ground with
monovision. You can't do that with the single tube models. Here is a link
to the company I have dealt with for years. I've been happy with their
service and they have saved me a ton of money on parts and pieces to do
upgrades and repairs of my equipment.
http://www.stano.night-vision.com/html/nvg.html
It would be interesting to try flying with them as a passenger to explore
the usefulness. I'm not sure I'd survive an attempted landing wearing them
without significant training and another pilot to help fly the plane...
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| Subject: | Re: Where to mount Whelen power supply |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Pat Hatch" <pat_hatch@msn.com>
Karie, you should also consider installing the power supply aft of the
baggage compartment in the vicinity of the bellcrank. I built a little
platform in this area for the ELT and strobe p/s. Easy to get to.
Pat Hatch
RV-4
RV-6
RV-7 QB (Building)
Vero Beach, FL
----- Original Message -----
From: "Karie Daniel" <karie4@comcast.net>
Subject: RV-List: Where to mount Whelen power supply
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Karie Daniel" <karie4@comcast.net>
>
> I'm wondering if anyone has some pictures or details where to mount the
power supply for a Whelen lighting system. It's the system Van's sells with
a single power supply unit.
>
> As always, thanks for the great replies. Oh, I did search the archives and
found only a few who had mounted under the baggage compartment seat. Is this
the best spot?
>
> Karie Daniel
> Sammamish, WA
> RV-7A
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RV-List Digest: 37 Msgs - 08/26/03 |
--> RV-List message posted by: PSPRV6A@aol.com
Repeating a hint on anchor nuts: They can be "conditioned" by driving a
greased socket set screw though them ether before they are installed or after they
are in place. A high quality socket head set screw is a class 3 thread
which is slightly larger than the class 2 AN screws. I have used this trick for
years with good success. There is still plenty of locking torque remaining and
galling is no problem. Don't even think of tapping them!
A second thought: There is a type of tap that forms a thread rather than
cutting it. They are sometimes calle X-press taps. They will not remove any
matwerial but will relieve some of the excess interference. FWIW, I have NOT
tried them, have always used the set screw technique. Paul S.
Petersen, RV6A, 95% done, 50% to go!!!!
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| Subject: | Re: Where to mount Whelen power supply |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
I agree with Pat. Having the strobe power supply in the cabin just takes up
precious baggage space...and for some reason I would not want to expose the
power supply to people accidentally touching it and getting zapped (even
though I know that possibility is highly unlikely...just a psychological
thing).
Here are some photos of my strobe power supply installation just aft of
F-706 (baggage bulkhead):
http://rvproject.com/images/2003/20030525_strobe_brackets.jpg
http://rvproject.com/images/2003/20030525_power_supply_mounted.jpg
http://rvproject.com/images/2003/20030611_strobe_power_supply.jpg
And here's where I installed my ELT, for reference:
http://rvproject.com/images/2003/20030603_elt_installed.jpg
It's at the aft end of the bellcrank support rib, just fwd of F-707.
Hope this helps,
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pat Hatch" <pat_hatch@msn.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Where to mount Whelen power supply
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Pat Hatch" <pat_hatch@msn.com>
>
> Karie, you should also consider installing the power supply aft of the
> baggage compartment in the vicinity of the bellcrank. I built a little
> platform in this area for the ELT and strobe p/s. Easy to get to.
>
> Pat Hatch
> RV-4
> RV-6
> RV-7 QB (Building)
> Vero Beach, FL
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Karie Daniel" <karie4@comcast.net>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV-List: Where to mount Whelen power supply
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Karie Daniel" <karie4@comcast.net>
> >
> > I'm wondering if anyone has some pictures or details where to mount the
> power supply for a Whelen lighting system. It's the system Van's sells
with
> a single power supply unit.
> >
> > As always, thanks for the great replies. Oh, I did search the archives
and
> found only a few who had mounted under the baggage compartment seat. Is
this
> the best spot?
> >
> > Karie Daniel
> > Sammamish, WA
> > RV-7A
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Where to mount Whelen power supply |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Karie Daniel" <karie4@comcast.net>
You make a good point. My main concern though with mounting it under the
seat or baggage compartment is that the power supply has to put off a fair
amount of heat when being used. I'm not sure I want heated seats! The pics
I've seen of the baggage compartment mounting look good though.
BTW... I have recieved several e-mails with great pics and suggestions.
Thank you all!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Greg Young" <gyoung@cs-sol.com>
Subject: RE: RV-List: Where to mount Whelen power supply
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Greg Young" <gyoung@cs-sol.com>
>
> Before you mount the power supply (or anything else) under the seat,
> consider that this is a crumple zone in the event of a crash/hard landing
> and whether you would want that object in intimate contact with your
> posterior. (Fill-in your own bad jokes here;-)
>
> Regards,
> Greg Young - Houston (DWH)
> RV-6 N6GY ...project Phoenix
> Navion N5221K - just an XXL RV-6A
>
> <snip>
> > I have addressed the location of the Whelen power supplies on
> > previous posts and to answer your question re installing it
> > under the seats (or baggage compartment), from my experience,
> > is the best place to put it because noise radiation from the
> > wiring is enclosed and shielded by the fuselage structure. I
> > don't know how the wiring kit came from Van's but the kit I
> > bought at OSH a few years back, had four Molex connectors
> > with pig-tails which must be spliced to the shielded wiring
> > to the wings and tail (my case) lights and the power supply
> > wires. So the shielding integrity is interrupted by these
> > splices, therefore a noise source, which is contained within the area.
> >
> > The nice thing of putting the PS there is the wiring does not
> > have to pass through the wing spars, as it would if it is
> > mounted in a forward area, assuming, of course, that the
> > wiring to the wing tips runs aft of the spar.
> <snip>
>
>
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| Subject: | RV aerobatics techniques and speeds |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Matt Smith" <viperpilot@usa.com>
Does anyone know of a good source for RV model specific entry speeds and attitudes
for basic sport aerobatics? Specifically for a 6A.
Also, if anyone knows of a good aerobatics instructor within a hundred miles or
so of Lexington, KY, that would be great also.
Thanks,
Matt
RV6A
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
I'm getting ready to order tools (to build a -10) and planning to get
the Avery RV kit. Is there anything that I should include or exclude
from the standard kit?
BTW, thanks to all who replied to my earlier post about air compressors.
Bob
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| Subject: | RV aerobatics techniques and speeds |
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--> RV-List message posted by: mstewart@qa.butler.com
I have some aerobatic speeds listed on my POH.
You can d/l it from my website.
http://www.mstewart.net/michael/rv/index.htm
cheers,
Mike Stewart
-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Smith [mailto:viperpilot@usa.com]
Subject: RV-List: RV aerobatics techniques and speeds
--> RV-List message posted by: "Matt Smith" <viperpilot@usa.com>
Does anyone know of a good source for RV model specific entry speeds and
attitudes for basic sport aerobatics? Specifically for a 6A.
Also, if anyone knows of a good aerobatics instructor within a hundred miles
or so of Lexington, KY, that would be great also.
Thanks,
Matt
RV6A
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| Subject: | Archer VOR antenna and Garmin 430 |
--> RV-List message posted by: Laird Owens <owens@aerovironment.com>
OK, so I should read the installation instructions first....but
they're, like 300 pages (and they're at the hangar, I'm not), so I
have a stupid question.
In looking at the archives, I see people using the Archer's VOR
wingtip antenna for localizer and glide slope. But my new (oh, boy!)
430 that I'm installing in my RV-6 has 2 bnc connectors in the back
of the unit, one labled NAV, and the other G/S.
What gives. Do I need a splitter or something.
Give me a structures problem, no sweat, but these electrons hurt my head....
Laird
RV-6 SoCal
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| Subject: | Re: [SoCAL-RVlist] Re: Archer VOR antenna and Garmin 430 |
--> RV-List message posted by: Laird Owens <owens@aerovironment.com>
OK, I see the little bugger I need. Thanks!
>Laird,
>Spruce has the splitter you need. I have the same setup you are
>installing (it works great).
>Robert
>
>
>--- In SoCAL-RVlist@yahoogroups.com, Laird Owens <owens@a...> wrote:
>> OK, so I should read the installation instructions first....but
>> they're, like 300 pages (and they're at the hangar, I'm not), so I
>> have a stupid question.
>>
>> In looking at the archives, I see people using the Archer's VOR
>> wingtip antenna for localizer and glide slope. But my new (oh,
>boy!)
>> 430 that I'm installing in my RV-6 has 2 bnc connectors in the
>back
>> of the unit, one labled NAV, and the other G/S.
>>
>> What gives. Do I need a splitter or something.
>>
>> Give me a structures problem, no sweat, but these electrons hurt
>my head....
>>
>> Laird
>> RV-6 WHP
>
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| Subject: | RV aerobatics techniques and speeds |
--> RV-List message posted by: "George McNutt" <gmcnutt@intergate.ca>
Subject: RV-List: RV aerobatics techniques and speeds
--> RV-List message posted by: "Matt Smith" <viperpilot@usa.com>
Does anyone know of a good source for RV model specific entry speeds and
attitudes for basic sport aerobatics? Specifically for a 6A.
Also, if anyone knows of a good aerobatics instructor within a hundred miles
or so of Lexington, KY, that would be great also.
Thanks,
Matt
RV6A
Entry speeds are listed in RV-6A building instructions Section 15, page 25.
George McNutt
Langley B.C.
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| Subject: | Re: Archer VOR antenna and Garmin 430 |
--> RV-List message posted by: Richard Dudley <rhdudley@att.net>
Laird,
Yes, you need either an additional antenna for the GS or a splitter to
separate the VOR/LOC and the GS from your VOR antenna.
I have a 430 and a splitter connected to a "cat's whisker" antenna atop
my vertical stab.
Regards,
Richard Dudley
-6A finishing details
Laird Owens wrote:
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Laird Owens <owens@aerovironment.com>
>
> OK, so I should read the installation instructions first....but
> they're, like 300 pages (and they're at the hangar, I'm not), so I
> have a stupid question.
>
> In looking at the archives, I see people using the Archer's VOR
> wingtip antenna for localizer and glide slope. But my new (oh, boy!)
> 430 that I'm installing in my RV-6 has 2 bnc connectors in the back
> of the unit, one labled NAV, and the other G/S.
>
> What gives. Do I need a splitter or something.
>
> Give me a structures problem, no sweat, but these electrons hurt my head....
>
> Laird
> RV-6 SoCal
>
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| Subject: | Dynon releases EFIS-D10 Magnetic Calibration Program |
--> RV-List message posted by: dmedema@att.net
Dynon Avionics is pleased to announce the availability of the EFIS-D10 in-
panel Magnetic Calibration Program and instructions. Owners of the EFIS-D10
can now calibrate the magnetic sensors internal to the EFIS-D10 to improve
the accuracy of the heading displayed on the EFIS-D10. This calibration
procedure applies only to EFIS-D10 stand-alone installations. Customers who
have installed the EDC-D10 Electronic Digital Compass module should not
perform this calibration.
The program and instructions can be downloaded from our web site at
www.dynonavionics.com.
Doug Medema
Dynon Avionics
RV-6A N276DM (reserved) working on pre-inspection paper-work.
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| Subject: | Re: Where to mount Whelen power supply |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
Karie, you have obviously received several responses that address various
positions used in placement of the power supply. However, I am going to put
this out just to satisfy my own thinking. If I'm totally off the wall here,
please let me know.
I too looked at placing the unit under a baggage floor. My unit just barely
fit with very little room between the top of the unit and the floor. Since
heat is a major issue with electronic equipment longevity I pitched this
idea. My thinking says this unit has got to generate some heat. Since heat
rises, there would be very little space above the unit for the heat to
dissipate. Add to this, the alum. sheet directly above it would probably
have "stuff" stacked on it, ie., baggage in the baggage compartment acting
as insulation. It may generate so very little heat this is a non issue,
just my convaluted (as in long-winded) thinking.
I mounted mine like Dan illustrated thinking an "open" install just might
prolong the power supplies life.
Dana Overall
Richmond, KY
RV-7 slider/fuselage
Finish kit ordered!! Buying Instruments. Hangar flying my Dynon.
http://rvflying.tripod.com
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| Subject: | Access to bolts to VS to fuse. |
--> RV-List message posted by: "David R. Cook" <davercook@prodigy.net>
Listers
Stupid question 932. How do you get to the nuts on the inside of the fuse that
hold the bottom of the vertical stab to the fuse. I guess I made the access hole
to small to get my fist into. The cover plate is 2&1/2 by 3&1/4. I'm in the
process of drilling the top holes but I need to snug up the bottom bolts to get
the VS to lie flat. Of coarse I will need to get to the bolts latter anyhow.
Thanks Dave Cook
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| Subject: | Re: Night Vision |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Besing" <azpilot@extremezone.com>
In about 8 weeks, I start night vision goggle training in an OH-58. I'll
have about 20 hours of night flight with goggles on. Not sure what
generation we use here in the Army. I'd be happy to provide feedback when I
get through at the end of November.
My experience with goggles are they are horrible for depth perception. I've
driven with them. Can't imaging flying with them. Night flight is truly
enjoyable, and doesn't need to be ruined by looking at fuzzy green light.
IMHO, fly IFR altitudes (if not IFR flight plan) and enjoy the ride.
Paul Besing
RV-6A Sold (Waiting on the RV-10)
http://www.lacodeworks.com/besing
Kitlog Pro Builder's Log Software
http://www.kitlog.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Burton" <dburton@nwlink.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Night Vision
> --> RV-List message posted by: "David Burton" <dburton@nwlink.com>
>
>
> > I was just reading the AOPA Pilot magazine article on night flight. Has
> > anyone used night vision goggles to tell the difference between forest
> > and field at night? I am talking about surplus type of goggle like the
> > Harbor freight import.
> > http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=47626
> > Would such a goggle be of any use for improving safety of night flight?
>
> I've used generation 1, 2 and 3 goggles. There are several issues with
them.
> The early models have poor resolution and light intensifying capability.
> Since you are looking at a tv screen and not at the actual image the
> resolution is very important. Cheap models (Costco, Harbor Freight, Sam's
> etc.) usually are gen 1 and do not work well. Gen 1 is 1960s technology,
> can you imagine using a 1960s computer today? Gen 2 are a big improvement
> over gen 1 but still are not real great. They are Desert Storm vintage.
> Same deal. Could you stand to use a 1980's computer? The close up
> resolution is good but the poor light gathering and intensification make
> distance resolution tough. Gen 3 are daylight vision with great
resolution.
> They work as you might imagine night vision should. The earlier models
are
> not that useful. Since you are looking at a bright tv screen you can kiss
> your night vision goodbye when you take the goggles off. The field of
view
> is very limited. The focus is adjustable, but you can only see near or
> far... With the focus adjusted to see the ground, you can not read the
> instrument panel or visa versa. The goggles I'm familiar with are not
fast
> to change the focus on. With mine you can set one eye to close focus and
> one to far. This can let you see your instruments and the ground with
> monovision. You can't do that with the single tube models. Here is a
link
> to the company I have dealt with for years. I've been happy with their
> service and they have saved me a ton of money on parts and pieces to do
> upgrades and repairs of my equipment.
>
> http://www.stano.night-vision.com/html/nvg.html
>
> It would be interesting to try flying with them as a passenger to explore
> the usefulness. I'm not sure I'd survive an attempted landing wearing
them
> without significant training and another pilot to help fly the plane...
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Ordering Tools |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ron Walker" <ron@walker.net>
If you have the empennage already completed, you do not need the jig
brackets - they will credit the price against the kit price.
As for anything additional -- the Longeron yoke on either the hand squeezer
or a pneumatic squeezer will go a loooooooong way.
Ron
----- Original Message -----
From: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
Subject: RV-List: Ordering Tools
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)"
<bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
>
> I'm getting ready to order tools (to build a -10) and planning to get
> the Avery RV kit. Is there anything that I should include or exclude
> from the standard kit?
>
> BTW, thanks to all who replied to my earlier post about air compressors.
>
> Bob
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Atlanta area RVer's freindly airport near downtown Atlanta |
--> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
Peach Tree - Del Kaulb (spelling a bit off)... They are great !!!
----- Original Message -----
From: Dane Sheahen <dane@mutualace.com>
Subject: RV-List: Atlanta area RVer's freindly airport near downtown Atlanta
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dane Sheahen" <dane@mutualace.com>
>
> Does any one have any recommendations for an RV friendly airport close to
> Downtown Atlanta.
> I have to be there for 4 days attending an ACE Hardware Convention in
> October. This is my first major trip with my RV8a N838RV. I am a VFR
pilot
> and use to flying around Chicago Metro with all the airspace restrictions
> and congestion.
>
> Any suggestion on which airport go into please E-Mail at
dane@mutualace.com
> <mailto:dane@mutualace.com>
>
> Do not archive
>
> Dane Sheahen
>
>
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| Subject: | Aeroflash vs. Whelen Strobes |
--> RV-List message posted by: "" <tx_jayhawk@excite.com>
Speaking of strobes...are there any advantages of the Whelan over the Aeroflash?
It seems that the Aeroflash offer a significant price savings. Given that
the Aeroflash are not PMA'd (and don't carry the price premium), they would be
the "experimental" aircraft owners choice. Are those with the Aeroflash happy
customers?
Thanks,
Scott
7A Emp/Wings
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| Subject: | Re: Aeroflash vs. Whelen Strobes |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright" <kyle.boatright@adelphia.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: <tx_jayhawk@excite.com>
Subject: RV-List: Aeroflash vs. Whelen Strobes
> --> RV-List message posted by: "" <tx_jayhawk@excite.com>
>
>
> Speaking of strobes...are there any advantages of the Whelan over the
Aeroflash? It seems that the Aeroflash offer a significant price savings.
Given that the Aeroflash are not PMA'd (and don't carry the price premium),
they would be the "experimental" aircraft owners choice. Are those with the
Aeroflash happy customers?
>
> Thanks,
> Scott
> 7A Emp/Wings
>
>
Check the archives. Probably 500 differing opinions in there.
KB
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| Subject: | Re:Aeroflash vs. Whelen Strobes |
--> RV-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com
Chech out > http://strobesnmore.com/
I biught Whelen power supply and 4 strobe units with cables for $199. They
aren't WX proof and I used a clear glass teardrop light from ebay and built my
own strobe/tailight units for 5 bucks or so.
Bob Olds A&P , EAA Tech. Counselor
RV-4 , N1191X , Flying Now
Charleston, Arkansas
"Real Aviators Fly Taildraggers"
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| Subject: | fuel flo sensor and high pressure fuel pump |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Wayne Pedersen" <wayne@pedersentransport.com>
I am starting to plumb the high pressure fuel pump and the fuel flo
transducer that hooks to my IK2000 engine monitor. Any one have experience
on how to keep the transducer 12 inches away from the pump, after the filter
and on the suction side ? Im getting lots of slivers scratching my head on
this one.
Thanks
Wayne
S.Alberta
RV 7a IO-360
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| Subject: | Re: RV Aerobatic Speeds |
--> RV-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com
In my experience: DON"T EVER split"S" at anything over 100 MPH. I came
whistling out the bottom WAAAY past redline once - Just Once !
An RV aerobatic instructor might just save some gray hair.
Bob Olds A&P , EAA Tech. Counselor
RV-4 , N1191X , Flying Now
Charleston, Arkansas
"Real Aviators Fly Taildraggers"
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Hassel" <bob@hassel-usa.com>
Agree to both and if you can afford it get the pneumatic squeezer! Order
more cleo's than you think you'll need (they're cheap and totally worth
every penny).
I love my Sioux drill. That and the pneumatic you'd have to pry from my
cold dead hands. If I had it to do over again (and I may still do it yet)
I'd get the new C Frame dimpler by Experimental Aero
(http://experimentalaero.com/drdt-1.htm).
I already have the regular c-frame from Avery and like it. That's probably
the only diversion from Avery I'd make. I can sure see where the new design
might be beneficial though!
Good luck!
Bob Hassel
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ron Walker
Subject: Re: RV-List: Ordering Tools
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ron Walker" <ron@walker.net>
If you have the empennage already completed, you do not need the jig
brackets - they will credit the price against the kit price.
As for anything additional -- the Longeron yoke on either the hand squeezer
or a pneumatic squeezer will go a loooooooong way.
Ron
----- Original Message -----
From: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
Subject: RV-List: Ordering Tools
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)"
<bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
>
> I'm getting ready to order tools (to build a -10) and planning to get
> the Avery RV kit. Is there anything that I should include or exclude
> from the standard kit?
>
> BTW, thanks to all who replied to my earlier post about air compressors.
>
> Bob
>
>
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| Subject: | Order of Events.... |
--> RV-List message posted by: RV6AOKC@aol.com
Polling the masses once again.....have a few "semi-major" projects left on my
6A. Mainly: 1. Hanging Prop
2. Baffeling
3. FAB
4. Cowl Trim/Fit/Install (Skybolt Camlocks)
My question is based on your past experience what is the best order to
complete all of these projects? Im guessing Prop, Cowl, FAB, Baffeling??? Im
at
the point in vans instructions where you are for the most part on your own!!!
Thanks...
Kurt in OKC
6A finishing....
Do Not Archive
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| Subject: | Re: RV Aerobatic Speeds |
--> RV-List message posted by: "James E. Clark" <james@nextupventures.com>
As an adder to Bob's point, I also recall Mike Seager saying something very
similar.
I think he used 80 or so KNOTS (92 MPH????). He was **VERY** insistent about
this point.
James
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
> Oldsfolks@aol.com
> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 10:41 PM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV-List: Re: RV Aerobatic Speeds
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com
>
> In my experience: DON"T EVER split"S" at anything over 100 MPH. I came
> whistling out the bottom WAAAY past redline once - Just Once !
> An RV aerobatic instructor might just save some gray hair.
>
>
> Bob Olds A&P , EAA Tech. Counselor
> RV-4 , N1191X , Flying Now
> Charleston, Arkansas
> "Real Aviators Fly Taildraggers"
>
>
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| Subject: | Exporting / Importing to the States |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Brian W. Truitt" <b-l-t@shaw.ca>
Can anyone direct me to a site or provide information for importing a completed
and flying RV-7 into the States? In searching the FAA site I can find lots
for a "certified" aircraft but nothing for a "homebuilt". I have the Canadian
exporting information which looks quite straight foreward. As a homebuilt I
do not believe an Export C of A will be required. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks.
Brian W. Truitt RV-7 C-GZXM
Courtenay BC
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| Subject: | Re: fuel flo sensor and high pressure fuel pump |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
http://www.rvproject.com/20030520.html
That page shows where I ended up mounting my fuel flow transducer (for the
ACS2002, I assume it's more or less the same deal). I was told to have a
straight stretch of at least 5" before the transducer, with no elbows on
either end, and with the "wires pointing up."
You can see the spot I chose in the photos on the page above...it's located
right in front of the AFP pump/filter contraption on the floor, in the
middle of the tubing run from the pump up to the firewall. It took some
minor tweaking of the pump housing, but no big deal.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne Pedersen" <wayne@pedersentransport.com>
Subject: RV-List: fuel flo sensor and high pressure fuel pump
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Wayne Pedersen"
<wayne@pedersentransport.com>
>
> I am starting to plumb the high pressure fuel pump and the fuel flo
> transducer that hooks to my IK2000 engine monitor. Any one have
experience
> on how to keep the transducer 12 inches away from the pump, after the
filter
> and on the suction side ? Im getting lots of slivers scratching my head
on
> this one.
>
> Thanks
>
> Wayne
> S.Alberta
> RV 7a IO-360
> ---
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Where to mount Whelen power supply |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Karie Daniel" <karie4@comcast.net>
There's tons of room behind the baggage compartment bulkhead and plenty of
ventilation. I also like that it is accessible and I agree that an open
install might prolong the life. Probably apples and though, I think as long
as it's secure it should be OK.
I can't say thanks enough for all the great pictures and e-mails. I was
stumped at first then I had more ideas than I knew what to do with. Several
have ask that I forward all the off-line pictures I received since they were
in the same place. Let me know if you would like them and I'll gladly pass
them along.
Karie Daniel
Sammamish, WA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Where to mount Whelen power supply
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
>
> Karie, you have obviously received several responses that address various
> positions used in placement of the power supply. However, I am going to
put
> this out just to satisfy my own thinking. If I'm totally off the wall
here,
> please let me know.
>
> I too looked at placing the unit under a baggage floor. My unit just
barely
> fit with very little room between the top of the unit and the floor.
Since
> heat is a major issue with electronic equipment longevity I pitched this
> idea. My thinking says this unit has got to generate some heat. Since
heat
> rises, there would be very little space above the unit for the heat to
> dissipate. Add to this, the alum. sheet directly above it would probably
> have "stuff" stacked on it, ie., baggage in the baggage compartment acting
> as insulation. It may generate so very little heat this is a non issue,
> just my convaluted (as in long-winded) thinking.
>
> I mounted mine like Dan illustrated thinking an "open" install just might
> prolong the power supplies life.
>
>
> Dana Overall
> Richmond, KY
> RV-7 slider/fuselage
> Finish kit ordered!! Buying Instruments. Hangar flying my Dynon.
> http://rvflying.tripod.com
> do not archive
>
>
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