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1. 01:40 AM - Tool Nerd / Pneumatic C-frame (Michael Saffold)
2. 01:49 AM - Re: Fifth point seat belt hole? (Jim Jewell)
3. 03:50 AM - Re: Tool Nerd / Pneumatic C-frame (Dana Overall)
4. 07:02 AM - Re: Tool Nerd / Pneumatic C-frame (Sam Buchanan)
5. 07:39 AM - Re: Tool Nerd / Pneumatic C-frame (Jerry Springer)
6. 08:17 AM - Re: Garmin 530 radio reception (Randy Richter)
7. 08:24 AM - Re: Tool Nerd / Pneumatic C-frame (Bob Hassel)
8. 08:39 AM - Re: Garmin 530 radio reception (LeastDrag93066@aol.com)
9. 09:14 AM - Re: Garmin 530 radio reception (Kevin Horton)
10. 10:13 AM - Canopy decks...slider (Jeff Orear)
11. 10:46 AM - Re: Tool Nerd / Pneumatic C-frame (BillDube@killacycle.com)
12. 11:26 AM - Re: Oops, wrong URL(was: Tool Nerd / Pneumatic C-frame) (BillDube@killacycle.com)
13. 12:43 PM - Re: Canopy decks...slider (HCRV6@aol.com)
14. 03:04 PM - Re: Looking for hangar space in eastern Massachusetts (GRENIER@aol.com)
15. 03:22 PM - Re: Tool Nerd / Pneumatic C-frame (Dana Overall)
16. 04:24 PM - Re: Looking for hangar space in eastern Massachusetts (Dr. Leathers)
17. 04:30 PM - CreativAir Landing Lights with LED Position Lights (BillDube@killacycle.com)
18. 06:04 PM - Re: Canopy decks...slider (Stein Bruch)
19. 06:47 PM - Re: Canopy decks...slider (Jeff Orear)
20. 07:03 PM - Re: Tool Nerd / Pneumatic C-frame (Tim Bryan)
21. 07:18 PM - Re: Garmin 530 radio reception (Alex Peterson)
22. 07:45 PM - Save Nelson! (George McNutt)
23. 07:53 PM - Oil temps (Dula737@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Tool Nerd / Pneumatic C-frame |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Michael Saffold" <michaelsaffold@hotmail.com>
First, I freely admit that I am a tool nerd. Building my RV-7 has allowed my love
of tools and tool acquisition to soar to new heights. Almost any tool that
has ever been described as "nice to have but not necessary" for building an aluminum
airplane, I have and love using. When someone asks if they should use a
pneumatic or hand squeezer. I really don't understand what "or" is doing in the
sentence.
So, you may understand why I need/want/whatever, an automatic foot switch activated
pneumatic C-frame dimpler. I know several people have created fine examples
of this totally unnecessary must have item. Unfortunately I am not a welder
and cant just get out the McMaster Carr catalog and whip one up. I did see
somewhere(can't find it now despite full web and archive searches) that someone
had a way of modifying an existing dimpler by adding pneumatic cylinders and,
if I'm not wrong, a mouth activated switch. If this mechanical genius is on
the list or someone knows him. I'd be glad to pay for plans or even just descriptions
and part numbers so I can make one of these beauties myself.
I think I can handle the laser sight dimple die finder myself.
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| Subject: | Re: Fifth point seat belt hole? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net>
Thanks George,
That is what I was looking for.
Jim in Kelowna do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "George McNutt" <gmcnutt@intergate.ca>
Subject: RE: RV-List: Fifth point seat belt hole?
> --> RV-List message posted by: "George McNutt" <gmcnutt@intergate.ca>
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net>
>
> A while back someone put information on the list about how they used some
> HMWP (white plastic) to make an adjustable cover or 'edge protector for
> their fifth point belt. I have spent some time in the archives but have
not
> found the right words or combinations thereof.
>
> Thanks
>
> Jim in Kelowna
> ---------------------------
>
> Hi Jim
>
> Might be mine you were thinking of. Its on the VAF Western Canada Wing web
> page, aircraft C-GJTY and follow the links for "more" pictures. When you
get
> the page with building pictures it's down at bottom of page.
>
> http://www.vansairforce.org/airplanes/C-GJTY/more.cgi?more
>
> Made adjustable gap so a unused buckle could never fall inside and jam
> controls.
>
> George McNutt
> Langley B.C.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Tool Nerd / Pneumatic C-frame |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
>From: "Michael Saffold" <michaelsaffold@hotmail.com>
>First, I freely admit that I am a tool nerd. Building my RV-7 has allowed
>my love of tools and tool acquisition to soar to new heights. >
>I think I can handle the laser sight dimple die finder myself.
>
The "laser sight dimple die finder"..............when you have it in your
sights how do you say "fire" if you have the pneumatic C-frame squeezer
control in your mouth:-)??
Sorry, I've just got a couple visions of Michael in the workshop: Laser
sight aligned properly, wind and elevation taken into consideration, time to
fire this thing, "Yes, it works"!! whereupon he mouth activates the C-frame
laser guided cannon firing off a quick three round burst of 3/32
dimples....off to one side:-) Wife comes out to the shop for the third
time, "I said dinner is done, I'm throwing it out if you don't come right
now", Michael replies, with is bloodshot eyes trained on the laser sight,
"Just one more shot honey", whereupon he eats zap food from the microwave:-)
Sorry gang, it's early and the RVlist has been a little slow this weekend.
BTW Michael, they would have to pry my cold dead hands from my pneumatic
squeezer, I'd have to fight someone over it!!
I repeat...................Do not archive
Dana Overall
Richmond, KY
RV-7 slider/fuselage
Finish kit ordered!! Buying Instruments. Hangar flying my Dynon.
http://rvflying.tripod.com
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Tool Nerd / Pneumatic C-frame |
--> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
Dana Overall wrote:
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
>
> >From: "Michael Saffold" <michaelsaffold@hotmail.com>
> >First, I freely admit that I am a tool nerd. Building my RV-7 has allowed
> >my love of tools and tool acquisition to soar to new heights. >
> >I think I can handle the laser sight dimple die finder myself.
> >
>
> The "laser sight dimple die finder"..............when you have it in your
> sights how do you say "fire" if you have the pneumatic C-frame squeezer
> control in your mouth:-)??
>
> Sorry, I've just got a couple visions of Michael in the workshop: Laser
> sight aligned properly, wind and elevation taken into consideration, time to
> fire this thing, "Yes, it works"!! whereupon he mouth activates the C-frame
> laser guided cannon firing off a quick three round burst of 3/32
> dimples....off to one side:-) Wife comes out to the shop for the third
> time, "I said dinner is done, I'm throwing it out if you don't come right
> now", Michael replies, with is bloodshot eyes trained on the laser sight,
> "Just one more shot honey", whereupon he eats zap food from the microwave:-)
>
> Sorry gang, it's early and the RVlist has been a little slow this weekend.
>
> BTW Michael, they would have to pry my cold dead hands from my pneumatic
> squeezer, I'd have to fight someone over it!!
Dana, the "mouth activated" dimpler was developed by a member of our
local group and it is the most amazing dimpling setup I have ever seen.
This individual fabricated a pair of small air cylinders that drive a
conventional dimpling frame. The rig is activated by a slight "puff"
into a small plastic hose that is held in the mouth. That way you have
both hands to manage the skin stock and get everything lined up. The
laser light pen is mounted on the rig so you can see a target that shows
precisely where the dimple dies are going to hit.
What makes this rig superior to the other attempts at airdriven C-frame
tools is that the travel of the cylinders is limited to the exact amount
needed to form a proper dimple. Other systems allow the cylinders to
"spread" the frame because their travel isn't limited beyond the
resistance of the C-frame.
I know this sounds bizarre, but the rig is incredible to watch in
action. It works perfectly....every dimple!
I encouraged this innovative individual to modify the "puff control"
into a footswitch so you don't get a rapid set of dimples if you
unexpectedly try to cough up an errant mosquito or if the mouth control
just seemed too gross for an operator (or if several people wanted to
use the same machine???). It was pretty easy to modify a rubber squeeze
bulb into a footswitch.
Sam Buchanan
http://thervjournal.com
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| Subject: | Re: Tool Nerd / Pneumatic C-frame |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
Dana Overall wrote:
>Sorry gang, it's early and the RVlist has been a little slow this weekend.
>
>Dana Overall
>
The list is slow because just about every RV in the world is at Van's
this weekend. I was there for a while yesterday.
Don't have a count but there were a lot of them. the weather in Oregon
this weekend is perfect for the homecoming.
There are some really nice RV's being built.
Jerry
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Garmin 530 radio reception |
--> RV-List message posted by: Randy Richter <richterrbb@earthlink.net>
Reading this thread brought up some thoughts I've been mulling over, so, here are
a couple of related but slightly digressive (?) questions.
I've seen some descriptions of Nav radio antennas being placed inside the wingtips.
1) It's only been mentioned being done on one side, which can (obviously)
result in impeded reception in certain aircraft orientations. Can it be done
in both wingtips for 360 degree reception? 2) Can the same be done for Comm antennas?
Thanks for your inputs!
Randy
Time: 04:10:20 PM PST US
From: "Brian W. Truitt" <b-l-t@shaw.ca>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Garmin 530 radio reception
--> RV-List message posted by: "Brian W. Truitt" <b-l-t@shaw.ca>
Hi Doug
That big metal prop whirling around in front will disturb a radiation pattern.
Probably more than the nose wheel, especially in a descent. The bent antenna
on our -7 is about a foot forward of the rear spar and a few inches inboard from
the side. No directional problems have been noticed with many transmissions
directly in front. I would suspect the coax and connectors are okay as it
works fine in other dircetions. Best check is with a power meter inserted in
the coax near the 530 and check for reflected power.
Brian Truitt RV-7 C-GZXM flying and for sale.
(250) 897-0260
b-l-t@shaw.ca
----- Original Message -----
From: Doug Weiler
To: RV List
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 1:34 PM
Subject: RV-List: Garmin 530 radio reception
--> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Weiler" <dougweil@pressenter.com>
Fellow Listers:
One of our members who is not on the List has a recently completed RV-7A
with a multitude of electronic goodies. This aircraft is all electric with
dual alternators, batteries, and dual Lightspeed electronic ignition. The
primary radio is a Garmin 530. The antenna for this radio is located on the
belly (bent whip) under the seats (just forward of the spar carry-through
structure). His problem is poor reception from a ground station when the
airplane is pointed at the station. This is very directional. He says when
he turns the airplane left or right of the station (ATIS, for example), the
reception is clear and strong. But when pointed directly at the source
(from greater than 15 miles out), the reception is weak and scratchy. It
seems to be blocked by something.... nosewheel, ????... don't know.
Any ideas?? Has anyone else reported something similar with a tri-gear RV.
How about the antenna cable? It's a 50 ohm cable. How can he check the
integrity and performance of this cable?
Your help is greatly appreciated!!
Thanks
Doug Weiler
pres, MN Wing
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| Subject: | Tool Nerd / Pneumatic C-frame |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Hassel" <bob@hassel-usa.com>
Is there a link to check it out? I seem to recall at least some pictures
somewhere at one time.
This sounds like a really great idea!
Bob Hassel
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Sam Buchanan
Subject: Re: RV-List: Tool Nerd / Pneumatic C-frame
--> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
Dana Overall wrote:
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
>
> >From: "Michael Saffold" <michaelsaffold@hotmail.com>
> >First, I freely admit that I am a tool nerd. Building my RV-7 has allowed
> >my love of tools and tool acquisition to soar to new heights. >
> >I think I can handle the laser sight dimple die finder myself.
> >
>
> The "laser sight dimple die finder"..............when you have it in your
> sights how do you say "fire" if you have the pneumatic C-frame squeezer
> control in your mouth:-)??
>
> Sorry, I've just got a couple visions of Michael in the workshop: Laser
> sight aligned properly, wind and elevation taken into consideration, time
to
> fire this thing, "Yes, it works"!! whereupon he mouth activates the
C-frame
> laser guided cannon firing off a quick three round burst of 3/32
> dimples....off to one side:-) Wife comes out to the shop for the third
> time, "I said dinner is done, I'm throwing it out if you don't come right
> now", Michael replies, with is bloodshot eyes trained on the laser sight,
> "Just one more shot honey", whereupon he eats zap food from the
microwave:-)
>
> Sorry gang, it's early and the RVlist has been a little slow this weekend.
>
> BTW Michael, they would have to pry my cold dead hands from my pneumatic
> squeezer, I'd have to fight someone over it!!
Dana, the "mouth activated" dimpler was developed by a member of our
local group and it is the most amazing dimpling setup I have ever seen.
This individual fabricated a pair of small air cylinders that drive a
conventional dimpling frame. The rig is activated by a slight "puff"
into a small plastic hose that is held in the mouth. That way you have
both hands to manage the skin stock and get everything lined up. The
laser light pen is mounted on the rig so you can see a target that shows
precisely where the dimple dies are going to hit.
What makes this rig superior to the other attempts at airdriven C-frame
tools is that the travel of the cylinders is limited to the exact amount
needed to form a proper dimple. Other systems allow the cylinders to
"spread" the frame because their travel isn't limited beyond the
resistance of the C-frame.
I know this sounds bizarre, but the rig is incredible to watch in
action. It works perfectly....every dimple!
I encouraged this innovative individual to modify the "puff control"
into a footswitch so you don't get a rapid set of dimples if you
unexpectedly try to cough up an errant mosquito or if the mouth control
just seemed too gross for an operator (or if several people wanted to
use the same machine???). It was pretty easy to modify a rubber squeeze
bulb into a footswitch.
Sam Buchanan
http://thervjournal.com
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| Subject: | Re: Garmin 530 radio reception |
--> RV-List message posted by: LeastDrag93066@aol.com
In a message dated 08/31/2003 8:19:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
richterrbb@earthlink.net writes:
> Reading this thread brought up some thoughts I've been mulling over, so,
> here are a couple of related but slightly digressive (?) questions.
>
> I've seen some descriptions of Nav radio antennas being placed inside the
> wingtips. 1) It's only been mentioned being done on one side, which can
> (obviously) result in impeded reception in certain aircraft orientations. Can
it be
> done in both wingtips for 360 degree reception? 2) Can the same be done for
> Comm antennas?
>
> Thanks for your inputs!
>
> Randy
>
Hi Randy,
Although it doesn't seem to be obvious, the "standard" VOR antenna has
impeded reception regardless of where it is mounted on the airframe.
The Sportcraft wingtip NAV antenna will always perform better than the
"standard" VOR antenna. Part of the reason for this is that the airframe itself
forms the ground plane for the Sportcraft wingtip NAV antenna.
Sportcraft Antenna's has a wingtip COM antenna for the standard RV wingtip.
However, because the COM antenna requires vertical polarization, it only works
as well as the bent whip belly mounted antenna.
The newer RV "sheared" wingtips do not allow adequate vertical height for the
Sportcraft wingtip COM antenna to function well.
The same holds true for the "Hot Tips" from Massey Aircraft Services.
Jim Ayers
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| Subject: | Re: Garmin 530 radio reception |
--> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorto1537@rogers.com>
>--> RV-List message posted by: LeastDrag93066@aol.com
>
>In a message dated 08/31/2003 8:19:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
>richterrbb@earthlink.net writes:
>
>
>> Reading this thread brought up some thoughts I've been mulling over, so,
>> here are a couple of related but slightly digressive (?) questions.
>>
>> I've seen some descriptions of Nav radio antennas being placed inside the
>> wingtips. 1) It's only been mentioned being done on one side, which can
>> (obviously) result in impeded reception in certain aircraft
>>orientations. Can it be
>> done in both wingtips for 360 degree reception? 2) Can the same be done for
>> Comm antennas?
>>
>> Thanks for your inputs!
>>
>> Randy
>>
>
>Hi Randy,
>
>Although it doesn't seem to be obvious, the "standard" VOR antenna has
>impeded reception regardless of where it is mounted on the airframe.
>The Sportcraft wingtip NAV antenna will always perform better than the
>"standard" VOR antenna. Part of the reason for this is that the
>airframe itself
>forms the ground plane for the Sportcraft wingtip NAV antenna.
>
>Sportcraft Antenna's has a wingtip COM antenna for the standard RV wingtip.
>However, because the COM antenna requires vertical polarization, it only works
>as well as the bent whip belly mounted antenna.
>The newer RV "sheared" wingtips do not allow adequate vertical height for the
>Sportcraft wingtip COM antenna to function well.
>The same holds true for the "Hot Tips" from Massey Aircraft Services.
>
>Jim Ayers
>
Bob Archer, the designer of the SportCraft wing tip VOR antenna, says
that you should not try to put one antenna in each side. The antenna
pattern will be quite screwed up, and it will work much worse than if
you just had one antenna. It is hard to believe, but I have read
several reports from RV flyers with single wing tip VOR antenna that
claimed excellent performance even if the VOR was directly on the
other side of the aircraft. So, I say just install one wing tip VOR
antenna, fly it, and see if you get acceptable performance.
--
Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit)
Ottawa, Canada
http://go.phpwebhosting.com/~khorton/rv8/
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| Subject: | Canopy decks...slider |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Orear" <jorear@new.rr.com>
Greetings Listers:
Those of you who have done a slider on a 6 or 7....The Justice instructions indicate
that the canopy decks F-6110 and F-6113 should not be riveted on until the
finish kit construction. I am ready to start fitting my roll-bar to the fuselage
and was wondering if anyone had riveted them on regardless of what the
Justice instructions say. I assume his concern was routing wires to the aft of
the fuselage as well as running wires up to the panel from the wings. Seems
to me I can accomplish those things with these decks riveted in.
Am I missing something here?
Thanks in advance
Regards,
Jeff Orear
RV6A
finish kit
Peshtigo, WI
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| Subject: | Re: Tool Nerd / Pneumatic C-frame |
--> RV-List message posted by: "BillDube@killacycle.com" <BillDube@killacycle.com>
>
> So, you may understand why I need/want/whatever, an automatic foot
> switch activated pneumatic C-frame dimpler. I know several people have
> created fine examples of this totally unnecessary must have item.
I built a foot pedal for my "Mongo-Squeeze" Chicago Pneumatic 351
with 9 inch alligator jaws. I bought this monster on Ebay for $100.
If you can build an airplane, you should have absolutely no
trouble building a foot pedal.
Here are a couple of pictures:
http://www.killacycle.com/mongo1.jpg
http://www.killacycle.com/mongo2.jpg
Indeed, I welded the post for the pedal, but you could easily make
the stand without welding. The cable is a bicycle brake cable. The
adjusters are also from a bicycle.
It is important to have a pedal or a lever instead of a "switch"
to operate a squeezer. You need to be able to smoothly and gradually
throttle the air pressure to place the die in position lightly before
applying any serious force. This allows you to avoid a lot of mistakes. It
also eliminates the need for any sort of laser pointer or aiming device.
My CP 214 has a detent built in that allows you to set the die in
position before you move the lever to full "on" position.
Bill Dube <LED@Killacycle.com>
http://www.killacycle.com/Lights.htm
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| Subject: | Re: Oops, wrong URL(was: Tool Nerd / Pneumatic C-frame) |
--> RV-List message posted by: "BillDube@killacycle.com" <BillDube@killacycle.com>
The correct URL
Here are a couple of pictures:
http://www.killacycle.com/mongo1.JPG
http://www.killacycle.com/mongo2.JPG
Bill Dube <LED@Killacycle.com>
http://www.killacycle.com/Lights.htm
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy decks...slider |
--> RV-List message posted by: HCRV6@aol.com
In a message dated 8/31/03 10:14:17 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
jorear@new.rr.com writes:
<< --> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Orear" <jorear@new.rr.com>
Greetings Listers:
Those of you who have done a slider on a 6 or 7....The Justice instructions
indicate that the canopy decks F-6110 and F-6113 should not be riveted on
until the finish kit construction. I am ready to start fitting my roll-bar to
the
fuselage and was wondering if anyone had riveted them on regardless of what
the Justice instructions say. I assume his concern was routing wires to the
aft of the fuselage as well as running wires up to the panel from the wings.
Seems to me I can accomplish those things with these decks riveted in. >>
FWIW I find it is very difficult (in my case impracticle if not impossible)
to get under these decks to drill pass through holes for wiring. I would
definitely put any feed throughs I might ever want up there before riveting those
decks in place.
I also suggest putting nutplates in the decks for the canopy rail screws,
it's a lot easier than struggling to put nuts on the screws up under those decks,
but that's just my $0.002 worth.
Harry Crosby
Pleasanton, California
RV-6, firewall forward
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for hangar space in eastern Massachusetts |
--> RV-List message posted by: GRENIER@aol.com
Dean I hope you got my msg about the space here at Nashua. I have not seen
the guy yet, but will get info ASAP.
Ray
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| Subject: | Re: Tool Nerd / Pneumatic C-frame |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
>From: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
>
>Dana, the "mouth activated" dimpler was developed by a member of our
>local group and it is the most amazing dimpling setup I have ever seen.
I did remember the dimpler from prior posts, it just hit me as humorous
thinking of 3-4 builders using a hand squeezer and sledge hammering spar
rivets.........to laser guided, mouth activated pneumatic C-frames to
pre-punched kits where you can have a boat in two-three months. The "old
timers" must be rolling in their lazy boys:-)
BTW, I can't wait to C-frame for the last time...........I have truly
learned to hate that contraption!!
Dana Overall
Richmond, KY
RV-7 slider/fuselage, Imron black, "Black Magic"
Finish kit ordered!! Buying Instruments. Hangar flying my Dynon.
http://rvflying.tripod.com
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for hangar space in eastern Massachusetts |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dr. Leathers" <DrLeathers@822heal.com>
Hi Everyone,
I am just curious about what hanger space is going for around the country. I
have an older, but pretty nice T-hanger at a small family owned airstrip in
Washington State (about 20 minutes from Seattle).
I pay about $230.00 per month, and I am presently sub-letting it to a
friend, in anticipation of building an airplane some time in the future. I'm
happy with the situation, but I would like to hear form other builders
regarding hangers.
By the way, I attended Van's Homecoming this weekend. What a great time! the
highlight for me was seeing a beautiful RV4 with retractable gear and a
sliding canopy! Thanks Mr. Best!
Doc
----- Original Message -----
From: <GRENIER@aol.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Looking for hangar space in eastern Massachusetts
> --> RV-List message posted by: GRENIER@aol.com
>
> Dean I hope you got my msg about the space here at Nashua. I have not
seen
> the guy yet, but will get info ASAP.
>
> Ray
>
>
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| Subject: | CreativAir Landing Lights with LED Position Lights |
--> RV-List message posted by: "BillDube@killacycle.com" <BillDube@killacycle.com>
I need to install the Plexiglass and then take it all apart to
trim, buff, and paint everything, but I thought I'd show a picture of what
I have done so far.
http://www.killacycle.com/LEDVonDane1.JPG
http://www.killacycle.com/LEDVonDane2.JPG
These are pictures of Bill VonDane's (http://www.creativair.com)
Wingtip Landing Lights installed with my LED Position Lights. Everything
fits like it is supposed to. Note that you can install a strobe in the
center of the other "wall" of the sheared tip and not block either the
position light or the landing light.
As Hannibal Smith (George Peppard) would say at the end of every A
Team episode "I love it when a plan comes together." :-)
Bill Dube <LED@Killacycle.com>
http://www.killacycle.com/Lights.htm
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| Subject: | Canopy decks...slider |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com>
Amen to both of Harry's suggestions. I've not built two -6's with sliders,
and on the recommedation of others drilled the pass through holes early on.
Also I'll second the nutplats on the decks. Makes it SOOOOO much easier to
remove the rails (and you'll have to more than once).
Cheers,
Stein Bruch
RV6 Minneapolis
http://www.steinair.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of HCRV6@aol.com
Subject: Re: RV-List: Canopy decks...slider
--> RV-List message posted by: HCRV6@aol.com
In a message dated 8/31/03 10:14:17 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
jorear@new.rr.com writes:
<< --> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Orear" <jorear@new.rr.com>
Greetings Listers:
Those of you who have done a slider on a 6 or 7....The Justice instructions
indicate that the canopy decks F-6110 and F-6113 should not be riveted on
until the finish kit construction. I am ready to start fitting my roll-bar
to the
fuselage and was wondering if anyone had riveted them on regardless of what
the Justice instructions say. I assume his concern was routing wires to the
aft of the fuselage as well as running wires up to the panel from the wings.
Seems to me I can accomplish those things with these decks riveted in. >>
FWIW I find it is very difficult (in my case impracticle if not impossible)
to get under these decks to drill pass through holes for wiring. I would
definitely put any feed throughs I might ever want up there before riveting
those
decks in place.
I also suggest putting nutplates in the decks for the canopy rail screws,
it's a lot easier than struggling to put nuts on the screws up under those
decks,
but that's just my $0.002 worth.
Harry Crosby
Pleasanton, California
RV-6, firewall forward
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy decks...slider |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Orear" <jorear@new.rr.com>
Stein and Harry:
Thanks for the heads up on the nutplates. I already have pass-through holes
drilled into the F604 bulkhead....Is that the area you are referring to
regarding hard access once the decks are riveted on?
Thanks again.
Regards,
Jeff Orear
RV6A
finish kit
Peshtigo, WI
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com>
Subject: RE: RV-List: Canopy decks...slider
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com>
>
> Amen to both of Harry's suggestions. I've not built two -6's with
sliders,
> and on the recommedation of others drilled the pass through holes early
on.
> Also I'll second the nutplats on the decks. Makes it SOOOOO much easier
to
> remove the rails (and you'll have to more than once).
>
> Cheers,
> Stein Bruch
> RV6 Minneapolis
>
> http://www.steinair.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of HCRV6@aol.com
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Canopy decks...slider
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: HCRV6@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 8/31/03 10:14:17 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> jorear@new.rr.com writes:
>
> << --> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Orear" <jorear@new.rr.com>
>
> Greetings Listers:
>
> Those of you who have done a slider on a 6 or 7....The Justice
instructions
> indicate that the canopy decks F-6110 and F-6113 should not be riveted on
> until the finish kit construction. I am ready to start fitting my
roll-bar
> to the
> fuselage and was wondering if anyone had riveted them on regardless of
what
> the Justice instructions say. I assume his concern was routing wires to
the
> aft of the fuselage as well as running wires up to the panel from the
wings.
> Seems to me I can accomplish those things with these decks riveted in. >>
>
> FWIW I find it is very difficult (in my case impracticle if not
impossible)
> to get under these decks to drill pass through holes for wiring. I would
> definitely put any feed throughs I might ever want up there before
riveting
> those
> decks in place.
>
> I also suggest putting nutplates in the decks for the canopy rail screws,
> it's a lot easier than struggling to put nuts on the screws up under those
> decks,
> but that's just my $0.002 worth.
>
> Harry Crosby
> Pleasanton, California
> RV-6, firewall forward
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Tool Nerd / Pneumatic C-frame |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" <tim@bryantechnology.com>
The "old timers" must be rolling in their lazy boys:-)
I think I resemble that!. Only I always thought by the time I actually got
to that C-frame I was actually ready to rivet the skin on. That being a
good thing. Amazing how the perspective has changed.
Done riveting really, but still got soooo much to do. Hooking up controls
and NOT so looking forward to the dreaded fiberglass.
Tim Bryan
RV-6 N616TB
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From: rv-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV-List: Tool Nerd / Pneumatic C-frame
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
>From: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
>
>Dana, the "mouth activated" dimpler was developed by a member of our
>local group and it is the most amazing dimpling setup I have ever seen.
I did remember the dimpler from prior posts, it just hit me as humorous
thinking of 3-4 builders using a hand squeezer and sledge hammering spar
rivets.........to laser guided, mouth activated pneumatic C-frames to
pre-punched kits where you can have a boat in two-three months. The "old
timers" must be rolling in their lazy boys:-)
BTW, I can't wait to C-frame for the last time...........I have truly
learned to hate that contraption!!
Dana Overall
Richmond, KY
RV-7 slider/fuselage, Imron black, "Black Magic"
Finish kit ordered!! Buying Instruments. Hangar flying my Dynon.
http://rvflying.tripod.com
do not archive
.
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| Subject: | Garmin 530 radio reception |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@usjet.net>
It should be noted that the previous RV this fellow had was a RV6, and
his new plane is a 7A. He had 1600 hours in the taildragger RV6, and is
now glad he built a trike. He is no longer worrying about strong
crosswinds at his destination.
Alex Peterson
Maple Grove, MN
RV6-A N66AP 366 hours, just back from Van's Homecoming
www.usfamily.net/web/alexpeterson
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Dave Bristol <bj034@lafn.org>
>
> Doug,
>
> I'd suspect that the nosegear is blocking it. The fix of
> course, would
> to put a tailwheel on it.
>
> Dave 8>) RV6 (naturally)
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--> RV-List message posted by: "George McNutt" <gmcnutt@intergate.ca>
Attention Northwest flyers! The Nelson B.C. airport is under attack by
developers and may be lost forever. The city has given a one year reprive to
this scenic waterfront airport which is one of the few gems within easy
walking distance of a city center.
Local aviation enthusiats have organized a fly-in and airport appreciation
days next weekend.
Fly in activities will be Saturday Sept 6th. Your support would be welcomed!
See www.flynorth.com/nelson.html for info on fly-in. Customs will be
available for U.S arrivals 8 - 11 am on Saturday 6th, see web page for
details.
There are also nice aerial photographs of the city airport with arrival
circuit procedures superimposed on a linked web page.
www.flynorth.com/CZNL.htm
Direct distances to Nelson (CZNL) are - Spokane 113nm, Calgary 159nm,
Vancouver 231nm, Seattle 235nm, Portland 318nm. Not far in a RV, see you
there!
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--> RV-List message posted by: Dula737@aol.com
Howdy folks,
My name is Mark DuLaney and I live in Las Vegas, NV. Obviously during the
summer months it is very hot and I find I have a hard time keeping my oil tems
in
the proper range. I have a RV-6A with an IO-360 engine, a modified Bernard
cowling and a fiberglass plenum for cooling. I have Stewart Warner 9 row oil
cooler overhauled last summer. It is located on the firewall behind the #3
cylinder. I know it would be better on the baffeling, but there is not enough room.
My mechanic thinks putting in a naca duct on the side of the cowl and
directing outside air directly to the oil cooler will help. I was wondering if
any
other RV'ers had done or seen this mod? Also, we have thought of louvers on the
bottom of the cowl under the oil cooler to help with exit air flow. Any ideas
on the best type and possible solutions?
Thanks for any and all replys,
Mark DuLaney
dula737@aol.com
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