---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 09/09/03: 26 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:42 AM - SP-200 (willfly) 2. 05:14 AM - Re: Good deal on an engine? (Ronschreck99@aol.com) 3. 06:07 AM - RV10 interiors (RV_8 Pilot) 4. 06:25 AM - Re: Avery or Cleveland? (Condrey, Bob (US SSA)) 5. 06:50 AM - Re: Re: Good deal on an engine? (Stein Bruch) 6. 06:51 AM - Re: First flight of C-FSTB (Charles Rowbotham) 7. 07:53 AM - Re: First flight of C-FSTB (C. Rabaut) 8. 08:55 AM - Re: Michelin Airstop Tubes now RV10 interiors (AndrewTR30@aol.com) 9. 09:54 AM - Re: RV10 interiors (Paul Besing) 10. 10:22 AM - Re: RV10 interiors (Noel & Yoshie Simmons) 11. 10:41 AM - Re: Avery or Cleveland? (HCRV6@aol.com) 12. 01:15 PM - Dupon, PPG websites = useless (flmike) 13. 01:37 PM - Re: Dupon, PPG websites = useless (Jim Jewell) 14. 02:07 PM - Re: Dupon, PPG websites = useless () 15. 02:10 PM - Re: Dupon, PPG websites = useless (Bruce Gray) 16. 02:13 PM - Re: Dupon, PPG websites = useless (Scott Bilinski) 17. 02:20 PM - Hangar space (Van Heuveln) 18. 02:52 PM - Avery or Cleveland (Frederick Oldenburg) 19. 06:25 PM - Dynon Magnetometer Calibration Question (N223RV@aol.com) 20. 06:26 PM - Re: Dupon, PPG websites = useless (flmike) 21. 06:57 PM - Re: Avery or Cleveland? (Paul Besing) 22. 06:59 PM - Sticking Tailwheel Swivel (Curt Reimer) 23. 08:50 PM - Re: Dynon Magnetometer Calibration Question (Gert) 24. 08:55 PM - Re: Avery or Cleveland? (Wayne Reese) 25. 09:08 PM - Re: Dynon Magnetometer Calibration Question (Larry Bowen) 26. 09:42 PM - flying into reno? (WPAerial@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:42:31 AM PST US From: "willfly" Subject: RV-List: SP-200 --> RV-List message posted by: "willfly" Does anyone have any experience with the hand held SP-200 NAV/COM from Sporty's? Looks like it may do the same job as the ICOM but with a LOC function. Thanks Steve Glasgow ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:14:10 AM PST US From: Ronschreck99@aol.com Subject: RV-List: Re: Good deal on an engine? --> RV-List message posted by: Ronschreck99@aol.com In a message dated 9/9/2003 3:02:37 AM Eastern Daylight Time, rv-list-digest@matronics.com writes: > > Ron - > > Sounds like a good boat anchor to me... BTW, what was your friends name and > > phone no?! ;) > > Just kidding. I've been out of the engine market several years, but just > from what you describe, the package might be worth somewhere between $10 to > $20K. Sorry for the wide range, but there seem to be lots of variables. A > known prop strike, sitting unprotected with rust showing, not knowing who > did the previous work, what plane was it on before, got any log books, any > of the engine components yellow tagged when the previous work was done? > > If I was the purchaser, I don't think I'd be able to hang it and fly. I'd > most certainly want to tear it down (prop included) due to the prop strike, > corrosion, questionable background, etc., driving the price down. Also, > that rear facing induction system sounds like it might work fine with the > "snorkel" (?) induction system. Eliminates the need for the lower cowl air > intake. > > my 2 cents > > Bryan Jones -8 > Pearland, Texas > > >I have a very good friend who was once building a HyperBipe but gave up on > >the project after buying almost everything he has to complete the airplane. > > > He > >has offered to sell me the engine and propeller but neither of us knows > >what > >either are worth. Here is what I know about each: The engine is an > >IO360-B1E, > >rated at 180 HP at 2700 RPM. It was overhauled a few years ago and I know > >it > Actually I know a lot about the engine. It came to an engine overhaul shop in pieces and they rebuilt it with a reconditioned crank to certified specs. The log book and yellow tags are right here. The prop was overhauled by a reputable shop as well. My only concern is possible damage to the engine due to sitting open (in the hangar) for 5 years. It has been covered by a tarp but the plug holes and accessory holes are open. The rear sump has been dealt with before according to the archives. Anyone know the cost to swap it with a front induction? Or, anyone have one to trade? Thanks. Ron Schreck RV-8 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:07:17 AM PST US From: "RV_8 Pilot" Subject: RV-List: RV10 interiors --> RV-List message posted by: "RV_8 Pilot" What a great idea! Works in the Suburban, would be great in the plane. Here I go giving away a good idea, but what the heck... install those DVD/LCD displays in the backs of the frontseats! Heck, maybe you could even somehow tie in the GPS for those neat situational displays like on the newer airliners!! "Airspeed - 220-mph, time to destination - 1 hr, 10 mins..." Would keep the kids from having to ask "when are we going to be there?!?!" >Gotta figure out how to mount a DVD player in the roof for >Skyler to watch on the long trips! Bryan Jones -8 Pearland, Texas do not archive Get a FREE computer virus scan online from McAfee. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:25:23 AM PST US Subject: RV-List: Re: Avery or Cleveland? From: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" --> RV-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" Fred, I just went through this, received several private emails with advice and settled on Avery. This was initially because of what appears to be almost reverence for the company. I ordered the RV kit along with some add-ons last Thursday mid-day and was told that it would ship Friday and to expect 3 working days which would have it arriving Wednesday of this week. The shipment was waiting for me when I got home from work last night. In addition, they apparently subsidize the shipping costs - shipping via UPS was only $35 and the 2 boxes totaled 87 lbs! I'm sure that I'll also try Cleaveland at some point but my initial experience with Avery has made me a believer! Bob --------------------------------- Time: 02:07:56 PM PST US From: Gert Subject: Re: RV-List: Avery or Cleveland? --> RV-List message posted by: Gert There is no 'OR' here only 'AND' !! You will find both have excelent tools and comparative pricing. best thing is to look for a package deal and see what is cheapest for what YOU want. In the end, you'll come out even and end up buying from both anyway. Gert Frederick Oldenburg wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: Frederick Oldenburg > --> > > Hi All, > > I'm getting ready to flip a coin here, but I thought I'd ask for input > from those that know. Looks like 6 of one and half a dozen of another to me. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated! > > > do not archive > > > Fred Oldenburg > RV-7A - Empennage Kit Ordered > http://rv.oldsack.com > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:50:43 AM PST US From: "Stein Bruch" Subject: RE: RV-List: Re: Good deal on an engine? --> RV-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch" Hi Ron, Just as a comparasion, the engine I fly behind is an AEIO-360 (180)hp that has 800TTSNEW, and I paid $9500.00 for it last year. A new Superior/ECI 360 will be somewhere between $15-22K. in the end, it's worth what someone will pay for it....if it were me, I'd probably ask somewhere between $10-12K for it. I think it's going to be hard to get a bunch more, just because of the fact that it has been sitting "un-pickled" and "open" for a period of time, and depending on the environment, could have some spotty corrosion in the cylinders (if they are steel), and possibly on the crank as well. At the very least, I would recommend whoever buys it to do a cursory tear-down inspection just to look it over. The engine could be a great deal, and I wouldn't hesitate to use it, just make sure everything looks good. Other than that, it's just a bunch of people's opinions! Cheers, Stein Bruch RV6's, Minneapolis http://www.steinair.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ronschreck99@aol.com Subject: RV-List: Re: Good deal on an engine? Actually I know a lot about the engine. It came to an engine overhaul shop in pieces and they rebuilt it with a reconditioned crank to certified specs. The log book and yellow tags are right here. The prop was overhauled by a reputable shop as well. My only concern is possible damage to the engine due to sitting open (in the hangar) for 5 years. It has been covered by a tarp but the plug holes and accessory holes are open. The rear sump has been dealt with before according to the archives. Anyone know the cost to swap it with a front induction? Or, anyone have one to trade? Thanks. Ron Schreck RV-8 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:51:48 AM PST US From: "Charles Rowbotham" Subject: Re: RV-List: First flight of C-FSTB --> RV-List message posted by: "Charles Rowbotham" Todd, CONGRATULATIONS and WELL DONE !!!!! Chuck & Dave Rowbotham RV-8A >From: "Bartrim, Todd" >Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com >To: "'rv-list@matronics.com'" , >"'rv9-list@matronics.com'" , >"'wing@vansairforce.org'" >Subject: RV-List: First flight of C-FSTB >Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 14:06:14 -0700 > >--> RV-List message posted by: "Bartrim, Todd" > > I'm very pleased to announce that RV-9endurance, kit # 90113, has >now become an airplane. Power is supplied by a Turbocharged 13B Mazda >rotary >engine, with a 76" 3-blade IVO Magnum with electronic constant speed >governor. It was built from a standard kit and engine was rebuilt myself >from a junkyard engine. Everything was done myself, including paint & >upholstery. I'm extremely pleased with and proud of the results. > The plane fly's exactly as I remembered from my demo flight 3 >years >ago. Very easy to fly. The engine is very smooth & quiet. So far I've not >used any boost at all as we've been very conservative with it. > As I'm a student pilot, I now am looking forward to finishing my >training in my own plane. Test pilot for the first 3 flights is an >experienced commercial bush pilot, however as he was unfamiliar with the >rotary engine (but very interested in it), I was along as flight engineer. >This worked very well as all he had to do was fly the plane. All other >duties were my responsibility. > As my test pilot/instructor has had to return to his regular >flying >job, testing is on hold for a week. I'm still in the "Holy ****, I can't >believe it's flying" phase, so next flights will begin to put the plane >through it's paces. > As every first flight report before has stated, It really is worth >all the sacrifices and hard work, so keep on pounding! I found the >building >process to be tremendously enjoyable, particularly the FWF development of >an >alternative engine, however it sure is pretty damn cool to be flying it >now! >:-) > Thanks to the FlyRotary group and the AeroElectric list for all >the >knowledge that is freely shared. > >The adventure continues...... > >S. Todd Bartrim >Turbo 13B >RX-9endurance >C-FSTB >http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm > > "Imagination is more important than knowledge" > -Albert Einstein > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:53:24 AM PST US From: "C. Rabaut" Subject: Re: RV-List: First flight of C-FSTB --> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" WAY to GO TODD!!!! do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Bartrim, Todd Subject: RV-List: First flight of C-FSTB > --> RV-List message posted by: "Bartrim, Todd" > > I'm very pleased to announce that RV-9endurance, kit # 90113, has > now become an airplane. Power is supplied by a Turbocharged 13B Mazda rotary > engine, with a 76" 3-blade IVO Magnum with electronic constant speed > governor. It was built from a standard kit and engine was rebuilt myself > from a junkyard engine. Everything was done myself, including paint & > upholstery. I'm extremely pleased with and proud of the results. > The plane fly's exactly as I remembered from my demo flight 3 years > ago. Very easy to fly. The engine is very smooth & quiet. So far I've not > used any boost at all as we've been very conservative with it. > As I'm a student pilot, I now am looking forward to finishing my > training in my own plane. Test pilot for the first 3 flights is an > experienced commercial bush pilot, however as he was unfamiliar with the > rotary engine (but very interested in it), I was along as flight engineer. > This worked very well as all he had to do was fly the plane. All other > duties were my responsibility. > As my test pilot/instructor has had to return to his regular flying > job, testing is on hold for a week. I'm still in the "Holy ****, I can't > believe it's flying" phase, so next flights will begin to put the plane > through it's paces. > As every first flight report before has stated, It really is worth > all the sacrifices and hard work, so keep on pounding! I found the building > process to be tremendously enjoyable, particularly the FWF development of an > alternative engine, however it sure is pretty damn cool to be flying it now! > :-) > Thanks to the FlyRotary group and the AeroElectric list for all the > knowledge that is freely shared. > > The adventure continues...... > > S. Todd Bartrim > Turbo 13B > RX-9endurance > C-FSTB > http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm > > "Imagination is more important than knowledge" > -Albert Einstein > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:55:23 AM PST US From: AndrewTR30@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Michelin Airstop Tubes now RV10 interiors --> RV-List message posted by: AndrewTR30@aol.com In the new products section of the current Kitplanes, there is a piece about a combo cd/mp3/dvd player from PS Engineering. With a little fiberglass work I'm sure you could install an overhead lcd screen for rear passengers or possibly individual screens in the back of the headrests. Andrew Rayhill RV-10 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:54:10 AM PST US From: "Paul Besing" Subject: Re: RV-List: RV10 interiors --> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Besing" Oh yeah. I've already planned on this mod. Wanted to figure out how the kids could have their DVD source audio on a separate intercom system that I could switch to if I needed to yell at them. This way mom and dad in the front seats could listen to MP3's, CD, etc, while the kids listened to the audio from the movie they were watching from the screen that folds down from the roof. Too cool! Paul Besing RV-6A Sold (Waiting on the RV-10) http://www.lacodeworks.com/besing Kitlog Pro Builder's Log Software http://www.kitlog.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "RV_8 Pilot" Subject: RV-List: RV10 interiors > --> RV-List message posted by: "RV_8 Pilot" > > What a great idea! Works in the Suburban, would be great in the plane. > Here I go giving away a good idea, but what the heck... install those > DVD/LCD displays in the backs of the frontseats! Heck, maybe you could even > somehow tie in the GPS for those neat situational displays like on the newer > airliners!! "Airspeed - 220-mph, time to destination - 1 hr, 10 mins..." > Would keep the kids from having to ask "when are we going to be there?!?!" > > >Gotta figure out how to mount a DVD player in the roof for > >Skyler to watch on the long trips! > > Bryan Jones -8 > Pearland, Texas > do not archive > > Get a FREE computer virus scan online from McAfee. > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 10:22:40 AM PST US From: "Noel & Yoshie Simmons" Subject: RE: RV-List: RV10 interiors --> RV-List message posted by: "Noel & Yoshie Simmons" The PM7000B or SL-15 will do nicely. now what you need to come up with is the auto Slapper. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Paul Besing Subject: Re: RV-List: RV10 interiors --> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Besing" Oh yeah. I've already planned on this mod. Wanted to figure out how the kids could have their DVD source audio on a separate intercom system that I could switch to if I needed to yell at them. This way mom and dad in the front seats could listen to MP3's, CD, etc, while the kids listened to the audio from the movie they were watching from the screen that folds down from the roof. Too cool! Paul Besing RV-6A Sold (Waiting on the RV-10) http://www.lacodeworks.com/besing Kitlog Pro Builder's Log Software http://www.kitlog.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "RV_8 Pilot" Subject: RV-List: RV10 interiors > --> RV-List message posted by: "RV_8 Pilot" > > What a great idea! Works in the Suburban, would be great in the plane. > Here I go giving away a good idea, but what the heck... install those > DVD/LCD displays in the backs of the frontseats! Heck, maybe you could even > somehow tie in the GPS for those neat situational displays like on the newer > airliners!! "Airspeed - 220-mph, time to destination - 1 hr, 10 mins..." > Would keep the kids from having to ask "when are we going to be there?!?!" > > >Gotta figure out how to mount a DVD player in the roof for > >Skyler to watch on the long trips! > > Bryan Jones -8 > Pearland, Texas > do not archive > > Get a FREE computer virus scan online from McAfee. > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 10:41:33 AM PST US From: HCRV6@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Avery or Cleveland? --> RV-List message posted by: HCRV6@aol.com Both top quality, a pleasure to do business with and both stand behind their products 100% in my experience. I have never been disappointed with anything I have purchased from either of them. Unfortunately I can't say that about some of the other tool suppliers. FWIW I'd consider the new style Cleveland hand squeezer if I was starting from scratch, but then my Avery aqueezer has worked perfectly well for me so far. In the long run you'll most likely end up buying from both of them. Harry Crosby Pleasanton, California RV-6, firewall forward ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 01:15:25 PM PST US From: flmike Subject: RV-List: Dupon, PPG websites = useless --> RV-List message posted by: flmike Man, what a couple of useless websites. All Im trying to do is find some datasheets on Dupont VariPrime and PPG DX1791 wash primers. Geez, their own search engines don't even give a hit. They sure do have megabytes of info on diversity, environmental awareness, and governmental affairs though. Just nothing on actual products. I even picked up the phone and it was just as useless, five minute of re-directs followed by five minutes of hold, then leave a message and well call back. The only site that seems to have any information is a Canadian firm...and these lists! Anybody have any luck with these Goliaths? Rant off Do not archive __________________________________ http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 01:37:32 PM PST US From: "Jim Jewell" Subject: Re: RV-List: Dupon, PPG websites = useless --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" Ranter,....(;-)! Please indicate contact info for the Canadian firm. Jim in Kelowna ----- Original Message ----- From: "flmike" Subject: RV-List: Dupon, PPG websites = useless > --> RV-List message posted by: flmike > > Man, what a couple of useless websites. > All Im trying to do is find some datasheets on Dupont > VariPrime and PPG DX1791 wash primers. Geez, their > own search engines don't even give a hit. They sure > do have megabytes of info on diversity, environmental > awareness, and governmental affairs though. Just > nothing on actual products. I even picked up the > phone and it was just as useless, five minute of > re-directs followed by five minutes of hold, then > leave a message and well call back. > > The only site that seems to have any information is a > Canadian firm...and these lists! > > Anybody have any luck with these Goliaths? > > > Rant off > Do not archive > > > __________________________________ > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 02:07:53 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV-List: Dupon, PPG websites = useless From: --> RV-List message posted by: PPG stuff is fairly easy to find. Go to main page, click on automotive refinish link, in the search box enter DX1791 to pull up datasheet: http://www.ppg.com/cr-refinish/phase1/frmProductInfo.asp Rob Acker (RV-6 flying) do not archive > --> RV-List message posted by: flmike > > Man, what a couple of useless websites. > All Im trying to do is find some datasheets on Dupont > VariPrime and PPG DX1791 wash primers. Geez, their > own search engines don't even give a hit. They sure > do have megabytes of info on diversity, environmental > awareness, and governmental affairs though. Just > nothing on actual products. I even picked up the > phone and it was just as useless, five minute of > re-directs followed by five minutes of hold, then > leave a message and well call back. > > The only site that seems to have any information is a > Canadian firm...and these lists! > > Anybody have any luck with these Goliaths? > > > Rant off > Do not archive > > > __________________________________ > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 02:10:59 PM PST US From: "Bruce Gray" Subject: RE: RV-List: Dupon, PPG websites = useless --> RV-List message posted by: "Bruce Gray" Hmmm... I can hit it in 3 clicks (GG) Try, http://www.ppg.com/cr-refinish/Phase1/frmPickRegion.asp Click on USA and follow your nose. Bruce www.glasair.org -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of flmike Subject: RV-List: Dupon, PPG websites = useless --> RV-List message posted by: flmike Man, what a couple of useless websites. All Im trying to do is find some datasheets on Dupont VariPrime and PPG DX1791 wash primers. Geez, their own search engines don't even give a hit. They sure do have megabytes of info on diversity, environmental awareness, and governmental affairs though. Just nothing on actual products. I even picked up the phone and it was just as useless, five minute of re-directs followed by five minutes of hold, then leave a message and well call back. The only site that seems to have any information is a Canadian firm...and these lists! Anybody have any luck with these Goliaths? Rant off Do not archive __________________________________ http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 02:13:29 PM PST US From: Scott Bilinski Subject: Re: RV-List: Dupon, PPG websites = useless --> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski I used PPG paint and could not beleive how much information they did NOT give me. I made numerous calls to the tech line before I got the total BIG picture. Even then I bet I still did not get all the info. I found the lititure at the paint stores that you can pick up for each part number leaves out alot of info. For example NO WHERE did it tell me that there was a 2 week shelf life on the hardner after it was open. I really had to pull the info out of them. I was always able to reach the tech people though, so maybe go with PPG exclusively? At 01:13 PM 9/9/03 -0700, you wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: flmike > >Man, what a couple of useless websites. >All Im trying to do is find some datasheets on Dupont >VariPrime and PPG DX1791 wash primers. Geez, their >own search engines don't even give a hit. They sure >do have megabytes of info on diversity, environmental >awareness, and governmental affairs though. Just >nothing on actual products. I even picked up the >phone and it was just as useless, five minute of >re-directs followed by five minutes of hold, then >leave a message and well call back. > >The only site that seems to have any information is a >Canadian firm...and these lists! > >Anybody have any luck with these Goliaths? > > >Rant off >Do not archive > > >__________________________________ >http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > > Scott Bilinski Eng dept 305 Phone (858) 657-2536 Pager (858) 502-5190 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 02:20:02 PM PST US From: "Van Heuveln" Subject: RV-List: Hangar space --> RV-List message posted by: "Van Heuveln" I'm in need of hangar space in the Cary, NC area for a few days in the middle of October. Don't like the idea of leaving my brand new -7 outside. Any recomendations? Van do not archive ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 02:52:04 PM PST US From: Frederick Oldenburg Subject: RV-List: Avery or Cleveland --> RV-List message posted by: Frederick Oldenburg Heads: Avery Tails: Cleveland Heads it is! (Just Kidding) I did order the Avery kit today though. Thanks to all for their input! Fred Oldenburg RV-7A - Empennage Kit Ordered http://rv.oldsack.com ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 06:25:16 PM PST US From: N223RV@aol.com Subject: RV-List: Dynon Magnetometer Calibration Question --> RV-List message posted by: N223RV@aol.com I have question about calibrating the Dynon External Magnetometer. I noticed the magnetometer was pitch sensitive (i.e. changes the heading based on pitch angle). I have a tail dragger, so it would make sense to calibrate the magnetometer with the tail up in flight position. I called Dynon and asked if I should raise the tail to in flight position for the calibration process and they said it was not necessary. I did not question them any further, but the more I think about it, I don't understand why. The magnetometer clearly does not know it is in a tail dragger or a nose dragger, therefore I would think it would make a difference. Or does it have something to do with the relation of the head unit to the magnetometer, and as long as they are at the same angle, it does not matter. But after calibration if you lift the tail, the heading does change. Clearly, I'm confused. Anyone else have any ideas or experience in this area? I was hoping to calibrate tomorrow. Thanks! Mike Kraus N223RV RV-4 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 06:26:17 PM PST US From: flmike Subject: RV-List: Re: Dupon, PPG websites = useless --> RV-List message posted by: flmike The Canadian firm is www.pwpaints.com located in Vancouver, B.C. Sorry, meant Dupont in the header, not Dupon. Okay guys, I can get there too if I know exactly what I'm looking for, i.e product number, and where it lives, but try a search from the PPG home page for DX1791, heck, just do a search from the automotive page on "wash primer", or "primer". It doesn't come up. Do a search from the automotive page for DX1792, all you get is the 1791 doc. I'm just looking for some info like; what size containers is it available in, is the DX1791 mostly phosphoric acid like the VariPrime catalyst, any salt fog testing data available, shelf life, etc.? You'd sorta think they might have a cross to it on the aviation page too, but no luck. Oh well, they're in good company, ever try to specify a connector from scratch on the AMP site? It's brutal. I will never throw away my "phone book" AMP catalog! End rant follow-up :) Time to let this tread die. Do not archive __________________________________ http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 06:57:46 PM PST US From: "Paul Besing" Subject: Re: RV-List: Avery or Cleveland? --> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Besing" Flip a coin. They both are great. There are a few things that each one carries that are unique, so you will probably order some from one and some from the other. People say that Cleveland's dimple dies are better, but I don't know if that is substantiated. I bought Cleveland tools for the tool kit, but spent my fair share of money with Avery. Either one is a great bet. Paul Besing RV-6A Sold (Waiting on the RV-10) http://www.lacodeworks.com/besing Kitlog Pro Builder's Log Software http://www.kitlog.com ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 06:59:36 PM PST US From: "Curt Reimer" Subject: RV-List: Sticking Tailwheel Swivel --> RV-List message posted by: "Curt Reimer" I couldn't find any info in the archives on this one, so here goes: I have about 50 hours total on my RV-6 so far, and I find that my tailwheel pivot point (full swivel) tends to start sticking every 10-15 hours or so. I can still kick it free so it isn't a major hazard when it starts to stick, but it's a sure sign that I need to grease it again. I'm using standard automotive wheel bearing grease. To make things more inconvenient, I find the grease fitting totally useless. What happens is that grease will fill up and begin to leak out under the top washer, but nothing gets to the bottom bearing surface, where I need it. The only solution is to disassemble the swivel and manually grease 'er up. I can live with this, but is this normal procedure for you other tailwheel drivers? I operate off of grass but the tailwheel area generally stays pretty clean, although it does get slightly mucky after a rain. Did I leave out a washer or something? I don't recall having one for this assembly. Comments appreciated. Curt RV-6, 50 hours. Took up my first passenger last night. Oh man, this is fun. If I'm not flying I'm thinking about the next flight. Help me, I'm addicted and my gas bills are out of control! I'm exhausted from getting up at 5:00 AM every day to go flying before work! ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 08:50:23 PM PST US From: Gert Subject: Re: RV-List: Dynon Magnetometer Calibration Question --> RV-List message posted by: Gert I believe it is because the magnetometer provides a correction signal for the system build into the main unit, That's why the main unit AND the magnetometer have to be installed within a few tenth's of a degree axis angle in all 3 planes. if this holds true, then it shouldn't matter if you are propped up or sitting down on the tailwheel as the relative angle between the main unit and the magnetometer unit does not change. Just thinking out loud.......... Gert N223RV@aol.com wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: N223RV@aol.com > > I have question about calibrating the Dynon External Magnetometer. I noticed > the magnetometer was pitch sensitive (i.e. changes the heading based on pitch > angle). I have a tail dragger, so it would make sense to calibrate the > magnetometer with the tail up in flight position. > > I called Dynon and asked if I should raise the tail to in flight position for > the calibration process and they said it was not necessary. I did not > question them any further, but the more I think about it, I don't understand why. > The magnetometer clearly does not know it is in a tail dragger or a nose > dragger, therefore I would think it would make a difference. Or does it have > something to do with the relation of the head unit to the magnetometer, and as long > as they are at the same angle, it does not matter. But after calibration if > you lift the tail, the heading does change. > > Clearly, I'm confused. Anyone else have any ideas or experience in this > area? I was hoping to calibrate tomorrow. Thanks! > Mike Kraus > N223RV RV-4 > > > > > > > > -- is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500 ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 08:55:29 PM PST US From: "Wayne Reese" Subject: RE: RV-List: Avery or Cleveland? --> RV-List message posted by: "Wayne Reese" I really like Avery too, but I did have one small problem I was disappointed that Avery couldn't help me with. The chuck key on my Sioux did not fit right. It would slip then the bits would always slip. When I called they acted like this was really a weird problem and I ended up finding a chuck in and old tool box and the problem was gone. I have and will buy from them again. Wayne -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Besing Subject: Re: RV-List: Avery or Cleveland? --> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Besing" Flip a coin. They both are great. There are a few things that each one carries that are unique, so you will probably order some from one and some from the other. People say that Cleveland's dimple dies are better, but I don't know if that is substantiated. I bought Cleveland tools for the tool kit, but spent my fair share of money with Avery. Either one is a great bet. Paul Besing RV-6A Sold (Waiting on the RV-10) http://www.lacodeworks.com/besing Kitlog Pro Builder's Log Software http://www.kitlog.com ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 09:08:01 PM PST US From: "Larry Bowen" Subject: RE: RV-List: Dynon Magnetometer Calibration Question --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" I think as long as it is in the same attitude as the D10 it doesn't matter. - Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com 2003 - The year of flight! > -----Original Message----- > From: N223RV@aol.com [mailto:N223RV@aol.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 9:20 PM > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV-List: Dynon Magnetometer Calibration Question > > > --> RV-List message posted by: N223RV@aol.com > > I have question about calibrating the Dynon External > Magnetometer. I noticed > the magnetometer was pitch sensitive (i.e. changes the > heading based on pitch > angle). I have a tail dragger, so it would make sense to > calibrate the > magnetometer with the tail up in flight position. > > I called Dynon and asked if I should raise the tail to in > flight position for > the calibration process and they said it was not necessary. > I did not > question them any further, but the more I think about it, I > don't understand why. > The magnetometer clearly does not know it is in a tail > dragger or a nose > dragger, therefore I would think it would make a difference. > Or does it have > something to do with the relation of the head unit to the > magnetometer, and as long > as they are at the same angle, it does not matter. But after > calibration if > you lift the tail, the heading does change. > > Clearly, I'm confused. Anyone else have any ideas or > experience in this > area? I was hoping to calibrate tomorrow. Thanks! > Mike Kraus > N223RV RV-4 ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 09:42:44 PM PST US From: WPAerial@aol.com Subject: RV-List: flying into reno? --> RV-List message posted by: WPAerial@aol.com hope to fly to reno air races. where should i fly into? reno or carson city? do not archive jerry wilken n699wp albany oregon