RV-List Digest Archive

Thu 09/11/03


Total Messages Posted: 31



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 02:13 AM - Re: Sticking Tailwheel Swivel (act1)
     2. 04:13 AM - Re: LCD (Dana Overall)
     3. 05:11 AM - Re: Molecules (Robert Miller)
     4. 06:37 AM - Re: Empennage Ship Date (Conti, Rick)
     5. 07:28 AM - Fly-in at Tunkhannock PA 9-21 (Pat Perry)
     6. 07:42 AM - Re: Molecules (SportAV8R@aol.com)
     7. 08:00 AM - RV-10 Panel now available on ePanelBuilder (Bill VonDane)
     8. 08:06 AM - Looking for James Ahman (Pat Perry)
     9. 08:16 AM - Re: Molecules/Not RV related (Robert Miller)
    10. 08:16 AM - Re: Bad Day at the Satellite Factory---Humor? (Rob Prior)
    11. 09:09 AM - Re: Empennage Ship Date (Dan Checkoway)
    12. 09:09 AM - Re: Dynon Magnetometer Calibration Question (Ross Mickey)
    13. 09:17 AM - Ignition Harness (Greg Grigson)
    14. 10:09 AM - Re: Empennage Ship Date (Keith Vasey)
    15. 10:38 AM - Re: Ignition Harness (Mike Robertson)
    16. 11:49 AM - Re: Empennage Ship Date (Conti, Rick)
    17. 12:22 PM - Re: Ignition Harness (Greg Grigson)
    18. 01:22 PM - Re: Empennage Ship Date (Scott Bilinski)
    19. 06:04 PM - RV6A flap to fuse fit. (DWENSING@aol.com)
    20. 06:14 PM - heat muff confusion (bhuk@earthlink.net)
    21. 06:18 PM - Kentucky Flyin (Bobby Hester)
    22. 07:16 PM - E-714 right elevator counterweight trimming (Charlie & Tupper England)
    23. 07:34 PM - Re: RV6A flap to fuse fit. (Pat Hatch)
    24. 07:36 PM - Re: RV6A flap to fuse fit. (Dan Checkoway)
    25. 09:00 PM - Duckworks Lighting Question (Karie Daniel)
    26. 09:55 PM - Re: Duckworks Lighting Question (Dan Checkoway)
    27. 09:58 PM - Re: Duckworks Lighting Question (Kyle Boatright)
    28. 10:00 PM - RV-7 IO-360 baffle question (Dan Checkoway)
    29. 10:34 PM - Re: Duckworks Lighting Question (Wayne Reese)
    30. 10:44 PM - Trim tab ?s ()
    31. 10:44 PM - Re: Duckworks Lighting Question (Karie Daniel)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:13:30 AM PST US
    From: "act1" <act1@reap.org.nz>
    Subject: Sticking Tailwheel Swivel
    BAYES_01, IN_REP_TO, ORIGINAL_MESSAGE) --> RV-List message posted by: "act1" <act1@reap.org.nz> Hi Curt, I filed a shallow groove down from the grease nipple to allow a path for the grease to follow, seems to work. Cheers, Arthur Whitehead RV-8 Tailwheel swivelling fine so far, 70hrs. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Curt Reimer Subject: RV-List: Sticking Tailwheel Swivel --> RV-List message posted by: "Curt Reimer" <cgreimer@mb.sympatico.ca> I couldn't find any info in the archives on this one, so here goes: I have about 50 hours total on my RV-6 so far, and I find that my tailwheel pivot point (full swivel) tends to start sticking every 10-15 hours or so. I can still kick it free so it isn't a major hazard when it starts to stick, but it's a sure sign that I need to grease it again. I'm using standard automotive wheel bearing grease. To make things more inconvenient, I find the grease fitting totally useless. What happens is that grease will fill up and begin to leak out under the top washer, but nothing gets to the bottom bearing surface, where I need it. The only solution is to disassemble the swivel and manually grease 'er up. I can live with this, but is this normal procedure for you other tailwheel drivers? I operate off of grass but the tailwheel area generally stays pretty clean, although it does get slightly mucky after a rain. Did I leave out a washer or something? I don't recall having one for this assembly. Comments appreciated. Curt RV-6, 50 hours. Took up my first passenger last night. Oh man, this is fun. If I'm not flying I'm thinking about the next flight. Help me, I'm addicted and my gas bills are out of control! I'm exhausted from getting up at 5:00 AM every day to go flying before work!


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    Time: 04:13:31 AM PST US
    From: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: LCD
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com> >From: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com> > >there are plenty of in-dash DVD players out there, none of which are >very affordable. Here's a few: > >http://www.crutchfield.com/cgi-bin/S-RqKQZivPxXa/ProdGroup.asp?=3&g=129100&s=0&cc=01&avf=N Those prices are truly ridiculous, I would have just looked at it as a "cute" little add on not a major avionics purchase. I guess if I were "low riding with blacked out windows on 20" wheels" it would be differnet but heck, I only building an airplane:-) Dana Overall Richmond, KY RV-7 slider/fuselage, Imron black, "Black Magic" Finish kit ordered!! Buying Instruments. Hangar flying my Dynon. http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive Fast, faster, fastest: Upgrade to Cable or DSL today! https://broadband.msn.com


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    Time: 05:11:56 AM PST US
    From: Robert Miller <rmiller3@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Molecules
    --> RV-List message posted by: Robert Miller <rmiller3@earthlink.net> Thought I'd reply to this (just for fun...) > your lungs are permeable to both O2 > and N2, but more so with O2. > I don't know that this is true. The partial pressure of atmospheric gases crossing alveolar membranes remains proportional. > Avagadro's Law states that all gas molucules not involved in a chemical > reaction will demand the same volume of space per molecule at equal > temps/pressures, therefore appropriately contributing their portion of > partial pressure. This should include while they are being crammed through a > leak. It doesn't matter what type of gas molecule it is. > > Agreed. Robert >


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    Time: 06:37:42 AM PST US
    Subject: Empennage Ship Date
    From: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com>
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com> Does anyone have information on spoilers that can be installed in an RV-10? I saw an article on a Mooney some time back that had them installed. Thank You Rick Conti The Boeing Company office: 703 - 872 - 4602 cell: 703 - 472 - 8592 If you're looking for a cute saying....fuhgeddaboudit -----Original Message----- From: BBreckenridge@att.net [mailto:BBreckenridge@att.net] Subject: RV-List: Empennage Ship Date --> RV-List message posted by: BBreckenridge@att.net Ok all you "10" builders - I talked to Van's Tuesday around noonish and here's the latest: They will be mailing out an information packet later this week or early next. The first 40 tail kits will be ready to go around the 22nd of this month. At this point, they're planning on filling 40 kits per month until the initial order (of a bit over a 100 kits) is taken care of. Bruce #18


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    Time: 07:28:14 AM PST US
    From: "Pat Perry" <pperryrv@hotmail.com>
    vansairforce@yahoogroups.com.jkitz@greenapple.com, rcole@enter.net
    Subject: Fly-in at Tunkhannock PA 9-21
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Pat Perry" <pperryrv@hotmail.com> The Skyhaven Pilots Association will be having their fall fly-in/drive-in breakfast on Sunday, September 21st, from 8am - 2pm. We have had a few washouts in a row and are really reaching out for some attendance at this breakfast to help build the bank account. We have about 20 crafters, skydivers from Endless Mountain Skydiving, static and flying displays of vintage (a.k.a. "plain old") aircraft, and airplane rides in a 1943 Stinson V77 Gull Wing Big Red available for anyone interested. We usually get a model club flying and displaying their models, a local string band sometimes stops in for a few hours of public practice and a local antique engine collector sets up a display of old hit-and-miss and novelty engines. Anyone who has ever flown to Skyhaven in Tunkhannock PA can tell you this is a unique airport to visit. There is a 2000' paved runway located within a 1/2 mile of the center of town. When landing to the south on runway 19 adjust your 1500 MSL left pattern to a little closer to the runway avoid the mountain and hang glider launch which is in the pattern at 1650 MSL. Turn base to final at the traffic light in town and watch for the trees on short final. If you cant make it because the wife needs to get some shopping done dont worry, Wal-Mart is right across the street along with Burger King (incase you are still hungry after the breakfast). The grocery store is along the taxiway to runway 19. We are about 2 months from having 100LL fuel on the field so please fly-in with what you need unless you want auto gas. We share a street entrance with Texaco (almost enough room to taxi to the pump if there werent all those cars in the way!). Breakfast is $5 adult/ $2 child and includes all you can eat pancakes, eggs, sausage, ham, coffee, milk and OJ. Our pancakes are the best Ive had and the sausage patties are excellent. Hope to see a whole flock. or is it gaggle of RVs in the field, Pat Perry Treasurer Skyhaven Pilots Association RV-4 N154PK Flies great! Do Not Archive


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    Time: 07:42:33 AM PST US
    From: SportAV8R@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Molecules
    --> RV-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com In a message dated 9/11/2003 9:15:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time, rmiller3@earthlink.net writes: > your lungs are permeable to both O2 > > and N2, but more so with O2. > > > > I don't know that this is true. The partial pressure of > atmospheric gases > crossing alveolar membranes remains proportional. Here's the rub: O2 transport is both by solution and by active binding to hemoglobin, with a very nonlinear dissociation curve; CO2, N2 and other gasses are all passively carried to and from the alveoli in solution in plasma (the liquid portion of your blood) and the kinetics are linear for them. At least that's what I recall; it's been 23 years, and I don't use this knowledge much in day to day practice, thankfully ;-) By the way, what does this have to do with how much I love my pricey AirStop inner tubes? Bill B do not archive


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    Time: 08:00:53 AM PST US
    From: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com>
    "vansairforce" <vansairforce@yahoogroups.com>
    Subject: RV-10 Panel now available on ePanelBuilder
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com> Hi all... I though you might like to know that I now have the RV-10 panel installed on the ePanelBuilder - www.epanelbuilder.com I am not on the RV-10 list, so if you are, can you pass this on for me!? Happy building! -Bill VonDane RV-8A www.vondane.com www.creativair.com www.epanelbuilder.com do not archive


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    Time: 08:06:38 AM PST US
    From: "Pat Perry" <pperryrv@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Looking for James Ahman
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Pat Perry" <pperryrv@hotmail.com> Anyone have a current e-mail or phone # for James Ahman please contact off list. Pat Perry Dallas, PA RV-4 N154PK Flies great! Do Not Archive


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    Time: 08:16:48 AM PST US
    From: Robert Miller <rmiller3@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Molecules/Not RV related
    --> RV-List message posted by: Robert Miller <rmiller3@earthlink.net> > By the way, what does this have to do with how much I love my pricey AirStop inner tubes? > Nothing... I replied to the post on O2/N2 diffusion for fun only. > Here's the rub: O2 transport is both by solution and by active binding to hemoglobin, with a very nonlinear dissociation > curve; CO2, N2 and other gasses are all passively carried to and from the alveoli in solution in plasma (the liquid portion > of your blood) and the kinetics are linear for them. > > No. O2 bind to hemoglobin passively. Hgb has affinity for O2 and CO2 and (unfortunately CO) in proportions that allow O2 delivery and CO2 removal (and more difficult removal of CO, because it binds more tightly with HGB. Crossing alveolar membranes by atmosperic gases is, likewise, a passive (non-energy consuming) process. Robert SportAV8R@aol.com wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com > > In a message dated 9/11/2003 9:15:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time, rmiller3@earthlink.net writes: > > > your lungs are permeable to both O2 > > > and N2, but more so with O2. > > > > > > > I don't know that this is true. The partial pressure of > > atmospheric gases > > crossing alveolar membranes remains proportional. > > Here's the rub: O2 transport is both by solution and by active binding to hemoglobin, with a very nonlinear dissociation curve; CO2, N2 and other gasses are all passively carried to and from the alveoli in solution in plasma (the liquid portion of your blood) and the kinetics are linear for them. > > At least that's what I recall; it's been 23 years, and I don't use this knowledge much in day to day practice, thankfully ;-) > > By the way, what does this have to do with how much I love my pricey AirStop inner tubes? > > Bill B > do not archive >


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    Time: 08:16:56 AM PST US
    From: Rob Prior <rv7@b4.ca>
    Subject: Re: Bad Day at the Satellite Factory---Humor?
    --> RV-List message posted by: Rob Prior <rv7@b4.ca> Vanremog@aol.com wrote: > Check out http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewsr.html?pid=10299 > > See what nasty things can happen at Lockheed Martin when folks from other > programs borrow your bolts without telling you. This occurred just last weekend. From the article: "As the NOAA-N Prime spacecraft was being repositioned from vertical to horizontal on the "turn over cart" at approximately 7:15 PDT today, it slipped off the fixture, causing severe damage." From the picture, you can see it laying down on it's side where it fell. Since they managed to "reposition" it "from vertical to horizontal," i'd say there's a better than average chance the labourers could argue that they actually completed their task successfully. -Rob rv7 "at" b4.ca DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 09:09:08 AM PST US
    From: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
    Subject: Re: Empennage Ship Date
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com> The de-facto setup for Mooneys is typically the Precise Flight speedbrake system: http://www.preciseflight.com/sb.html )_( Dan RV-7 N714D http://www.rvproject.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com> Subject: RE: RV-List: Empennage Ship Date > --> RV-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com> > > Does anyone have information on spoilers that can be installed in an RV-10? I saw an article on a Mooney some time back that had them installed. > > Thank You > Rick Conti > The Boeing Company > office: 703 - 872 - 4602 > cell: 703 - 472 - 8592 > If you're looking for a cute saying....fuhgeddaboudit > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BBreckenridge@att.net [mailto:BBreckenridge@att.net] > To: RV-List@matronics.com; RV10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV-List: Empennage Ship Date > > > --> RV-List message posted by: BBreckenridge@att.net > > Ok all you "10" builders - I talked to Van's Tuesday around noonish and here's the latest: > They will be mailing out an information packet later this week or early next. The first 40 tail > kits will be ready to go around the 22nd of this month. At this point, they're planning on filling > 40 kits per month until the initial order (of a bit over a 100 kits) is taken care of. > > Bruce > #18 > >


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    Time: 09:09:22 AM PST US
    From: "Ross Mickey" <rmickey@ix.netcom.com>
    Subject: Re: Dynon Magnetometer Calibration Question
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Ross Mickey" <rmickey@ix.netcom.com> It should be mounted so it is in the same position as the EFIS. From the installation guide. "The EDC-D10 must be mounted such that its orientation is as closely aligned with the EFIS-D10 as possible. It should be mounted with the long axis parallel to the wings, the electrical connector facing toward the front of the plane, and the mounting tabs on the bottom. The bracket used to hold the EDC-D10 must account for all differences in angles between the EFIS-D10 and the EDC-D10. This includes pitch, roll, and yaw. We recommend you use an electronic level that reads to 1/10th of a degree to make sure the EDC-D10 is aligned with the EFIS-D10 in pitch and roll to better than 2/10th of a degree." Ross Mickey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lockamy, Jack L NA" <jack.lockamy@navy.mil> Subject: Re: RV-List: Dynon Magnetometer Calibration Question > --> RV-List message posted by: "Lockamy, Jack L NA" <jack.lockamy@navy.mil> > > Does the external magnetometer also have to be mounted with 8 degrees of tilt to match the panel tilt where the EFIS resides? > > Jack Lockamy > (waiting on my Dynon and ext. magnetometer) > Camarillo, CA > RV-7A


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    Time: 09:17:10 AM PST US
    From: Greg Grigson <iflyhawaii2@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Ignition Harness
    --> RV-List message posted by: Greg Grigson <iflyhawaii2@yahoo.com> I am looking for a source for 1/2 a harness for a Slick Magneto. The other side is Lightspeed electronic ignition. Spruce, Chief, Sky Ranch can't help. Any other sources? I would prefer a Champion harness. As an alternative, is anyone converting to electronic ignition with an unwanted harness on their hands or want to split a harness with me? Thanks in advance. Aloha Greg ---------------------------------


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    Time: 10:09:03 AM PST US
    From: "Keith Vasey" <keith@galvinflying.com>
    Subject: Empennage Ship Date
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Keith Vasey" <keith@galvinflying.com> By "spoiler" do you mean speed brakes? I was a Mooney dealer until their 2001 implosion. The speed brakes on the modern Mooney are made by Precise Flight in Bend, Oregon. The retail cost of them is about $4,000 (that's a wag, because I have only seen an "installed" price). The work great for slowin' down or goin' down. I use them on every flight in a Mooney. I don't know whether they're necessary on an RV, but of course "necessary" is rarely the prime consideration on our aircraft. Keith Vasey Seattle RV-8 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Conti, Rick Subject: RE: RV-List: Empennage Ship Date --> RV-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com> Does anyone have information on spoilers that can be installed in an RV-10? I saw an article on a Mooney some time back that had them installed. Thank You Rick Conti The Boeing Company office: 703 - 872 - 4602 cell: 703 - 472 - 8592 If you're looking for a cute saying....fuhgeddaboudit -----Original Message----- From: BBreckenridge@att.net [mailto:BBreckenridge@att.net] Subject: RV-List: Empennage Ship Date --> RV-List message posted by: BBreckenridge@att.net Ok all you "10" builders - I talked to Van's Tuesday around noonish and here's the latest: They will be mailing out an information packet later this week or early next. The first 40 tail kits will be ready to go around the 22nd of this month. At this point, they're planning on filling 40 kits per month until the initial order (of a bit over a 100 kits) is taken care of. Bruce #18


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    Time: 10:38:54 AM PST US
    From: "Mike Robertson" <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Ignition Harness
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Robertson" <mrobert569@hotmail.com> Greg, I had to do this a couple of years ago on my -8A. Sorry I can't remember the part number now. Give Unisyn a call (their number is on their web site). Tell them what you are doing and they will give you a part number and tell you how to order it . They are very easy and pleasent to work with. Mike Robertson >From: Greg Grigson <iflyhawaii2@yahoo.com> >Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com >To: RVList <rv-list@matronics.com> >Subject: RV-List: Ignition Harness >Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 09:16:28 -0700 (PDT) > >--> RV-List message posted by: Greg Grigson <iflyhawaii2@yahoo.com> > > I am looking for a source for 1/2 a harness for a Slick Magneto. The >other side is Lightspeed electronic ignition. Spruce, Chief, Sky Ranch >can't help. Any other sources? I would prefer a Champion harness. > > As an alternative, is anyone converting to electronic ignition with an >unwanted harness on their hands or want to split a harness with me? > >Thanks in advance. >Aloha >Greg > > >--------------------------------- > >


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    Time: 11:49:48 AM PST US
    Subject: Empennage Ship Date
    From: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com>
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com> I have sent an email to Precise Flight asking about spoilers and the RV-10. Many wouldn't think spoilers are "necessary" on an RV-10, but the advantages seem high. Thank You Rick Conti The Boeing Company office: 703 - 872 - 4602 cell: 703 - 472 - 8592 If you're looking for a cute saying....fuhgeddaboudit -----Original Message----- From: Keith Vasey [mailto:keith@galvinflying.com] Subject: RE: RV-List: Empennage Ship Date --> RV-List message posted by: "Keith Vasey" <keith@galvinflying.com> By "spoiler" do you mean speed brakes? I was a Mooney dealer until their 2001 implosion. The speed brakes on the modern Mooney are made by Precise Flight in Bend, Oregon. The retail cost of them is about $4,000 (that's a wag, because I have only seen an "installed" price). The work great for slowin' down or goin' down. I use them on every flight in a Mooney. I don't know whether they're necessary on an RV, but of course "necessary" is rarely the prime consideration on our aircraft. Keith Vasey Seattle RV-8 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Conti, Rick Subject: RE: RV-List: Empennage Ship Date --> RV-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com> Does anyone have information on spoilers that can be installed in an RV-10? I saw an article on a Mooney some time back that had them installed. Thank You Rick Conti The Boeing Company office: 703 - 872 - 4602 cell: 703 - 472 - 8592 If you're looking for a cute saying....fuhgeddaboudit -----Original Message----- From: BBreckenridge@att.net [mailto:BBreckenridge@att.net] Subject: RV-List: Empennage Ship Date --> RV-List message posted by: BBreckenridge@att.net Ok all you "10" builders - I talked to Van's Tuesday around noonish and here's the latest: They will be mailing out an information packet later this week or early next. The first 40 tail kits will be ready to go around the 22nd of this month. At this point, they're planning on filling 40 kits per month until the initial order (of a bit over a 100 kits) is taken care of. Bruce #18


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    Time: 12:22:46 PM PST US
    From: Greg Grigson <iflyhawaii2@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Ignition Harness
    --> RV-List message posted by: Greg Grigson <iflyhawaii2@yahoo.com> Thanks for all the ideas. I should be able to come up with something over the next few days. With aloha, Greg Greg Grigson <iflyhawaii2@yahoo.com> wrote: --> RV-List message posted by: Greg Grigson I am looking for a source for 1/2 a harness for a Slick Magneto. The other side is Lightspeed electronic ignition. Spruce, Chief, Sky Ranch can't help. Any other sources? I would prefer a Champion harness. As an alternative, is anyone converting to electronic ignition with an unwanted harness on their hands or want to split a harness with me? Thanks in advance. Aloha Greg --------------------------------- ---------------------------------


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    Time: 01:22:10 PM PST US
    From: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
    Subject: Empennage Ship Date
    --> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com> Why not put the money of spoilers into a nice constant speed. Then you wont need spoilers. At 02:43 PM 9/11/03 -0400, you wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com> > >I have sent an email to Precise Flight asking about spoilers and the RV-10. >Many wouldn't think spoilers are "necessary" on an RV-10, but the advantages >seem high. > >Thank You >Rick Conti >The Boeing Company >office: 703 - 872 - 4602 > cell: 703 - 472 - 8592 >If you're looking for a cute saying....fuhgeddaboudit > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Keith Vasey [mailto:keith@galvinflying.com] >To: rv-list@matronics.com >Subject: RE: RV-List: Empennage Ship Date > > >--> RV-List message posted by: "Keith Vasey" <keith@galvinflying.com> > >By "spoiler" do you mean speed brakes? I was a Mooney dealer until their >2001 implosion. The speed brakes on the modern Mooney are made by Precise >Flight in Bend, Oregon. The retail cost of them is about $4,000 (that's a >wag, because I have only seen an "installed" price). The work great for >slowin' down or goin' down. I use them on every flight in a Mooney. I don't >know whether they're necessary on an RV, but of course "necessary" is rarely >the prime consideration on our aircraft. > >Keith Vasey >Seattle >RV-8 > > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Conti, Rick >To: rv-list@matronics.com; RV10-list@matronics.com >Subject: RE: RV-List: Empennage Ship Date > > >--> RV-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com> > >Does anyone have information on spoilers that can be installed in an RV-10? >I saw an article on a Mooney some time back that had them installed. > >Thank You >Rick Conti >The Boeing Company >office: 703 - 872 - 4602 > cell: 703 - 472 - 8592 >If you're looking for a cute saying....fuhgeddaboudit > > >-----Original Message----- >From: BBreckenridge@att.net [mailto:BBreckenridge@att.net] >To: RV-List@matronics.com; RV10-list@matronics.com >Subject: RV-List: Empennage Ship Date > > >--> RV-List message posted by: BBreckenridge@att.net > >Ok all you "10" builders - I talked to Van's Tuesday around noonish and >here's the latest: >They will be mailing out an information packet later this week or early >next. The first 40 tail >kits will be ready to go around the 22nd of this month. At this point, >they're planning on filling >40 kits per month until the initial order (of a bit over a 100 kits) is >taken care of. > >Bruce >#18 > > Scott Bilinski Eng dept 305 Phone (858) 657-2536 Pager (858) 502-5190


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    Time: 06:04:19 PM PST US
    From: DWENSING@aol.com
    Subject: RV6A flap to fuse fit.
    --> RV-List message posted by: DWENSING@aol.com Have a concern that needs some expert review. My lower inboard flap skins do not align well with the fuse. The flap is too high in relation to the fuse and the over lapping skin must bend when the flaps are retracted. Anyone else have this problem? and what did you do about it? Dale Ensing


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    Time: 06:14:44 PM PST US
    From: bhuk@earthlink.net
    Subject: heat muff confusion
    --> RV-List message posted by: bhuk@earthlink.net checked the archives...which only added to the confusion. Is the universal heat muff in the new Van's catalog a Robbins muff? anyone?...


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    Time: 06:18:19 PM PST US
    From: Bobby Hester <bhester@hopkinsville.net>
    Subject: Kentucky Flyin
    --> RV-List message posted by: Bobby Hester <bhester@hopkinsville.net> Flyin Rough River State Park - Falls of the Rough - 2I3 Friday 9/12 thru Sunday 9/14 Lodge walking distance from the runway Camp with your plane Meet in the Lodge Friday evening for war stories and drinks -- Surfing the Web from Hopkinsville, KY Visit my web site at: http://www.geocities.com/hester-hoptown/RVSite/ RV7A Slowbuild wings-QB Fuse :-)


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    Time: 07:16:37 PM PST US
    From: Charlie & Tupper England <cengland@netdoor.com>
    Subject: E-714 right elevator counterweight trimming
    --> RV-List message posted by: Charlie & Tupper England <cengland@netdoor.com> Well, a quick archive search didn't turn up much, so here's my contribution. Not presented as 'the' way to do it, just 'a' way to do it. A table saw with a carbide blade works fine for removing most of the lead except for the area that must be radiused (got to avoid those stress risers in those fishin' sinkers ;-) ) Set the blade height to remove the thickness desired & make multiple passes like cutting a dado. Or do what I did if you want to risk fingers & thumbs: make one cut across the nose using the rip fence then one cut across the face using the cross-cut guide. You get to keep a chunk of the lead, but it's a lot more risky. I then used a 1/4" shank, 1/2" diameter rotary file, cylindrical, round top (USATCO p/n 452HSS is similar) to mill the radius. I chucked it in my drill press, adjusted the table height so that the tip of the cutter just missed the surface left by the table saw, & made multiple very shallow & slow cuts until the side of the cutter reached my limit mark on the counterweight. I know there's a better way. Somebody just needs to share how.... Charlie


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    Time: 07:34:26 PM PST US
    From: "Pat Hatch" <pat_hatch@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: RV6A flap to fuse fit.
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Pat Hatch" <pat_hatch@msn.com> Dale, I would joggle the flap skin, i.e., put a little step in the skin so that it mates with the fuselage. Pat Hatch RV-4 RV-6 RV-7 QB (Building) Vero Beach, FL ----- Original Message ----- From: <DWENSING@aol.com> Subject: RV-List: RV6A flap to fuse fit. > --> RV-List message posted by: DWENSING@aol.com > > Have a concern that needs some expert review. > My lower inboard flap skins do not align well with the fuse. The flap is too > high in relation to the fuse and the over lapping skin must bend when the > flaps are retracted. Anyone else have this problem? and what did you do about it? > Dale Ensing > >


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    Time: 07:36:18 PM PST US
    From: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
    Subject: Re: RV6A flap to fuse fit.
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com> Yup. Had that same issue on my RV-7 on both flaps. I trimmed and joggled the lower flap skin edge so that it sits flush. I might chop the whole inboard end off if I don't end up happy with how it looks when it's final-assembled, but it looked ok when I did my initial wing mating. Lemme know if you want photos (or just dig through my web site for wing mating stuff...). )_( Dan RV-7 N714D http://www.rvproject.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <DWENSING@aol.com> Subject: RV-List: RV6A flap to fuse fit. > --> RV-List message posted by: DWENSING@aol.com > > Have a concern that needs some expert review. > My lower inboard flap skins do not align well with the fuse. The flap is too > high in relation to the fuse and the over lapping skin must bend when the > flaps are retracted. Anyone else have this problem? and what did you do about it? > Dale Ensing > >


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    Time: 09:00:09 PM PST US
    From: "Karie Daniel" <karie4@comcast.net>
    Subject: Duckworks Lighting Question
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Karie Daniel" <karie4@comcast.net> I'm installing my duckworks landing light and there is a rib shaped template. Section 2.4 of the plans say to fit the template into the leading edge (ok so far) then mark the 2 locations. On the template it's marked "A" and "B" which I can safely say is the 2 locations. The next step says to drill the 6 holes! Each rib according to the template gets 2 holes, not three. OK so now I go to the drawing and I see three holes are supposed to be in each rib. Two at the top and one at the bottom! What in the wide wide world of sports am I missing here? Recommended web site with pics? As always thanks for your help. BTW...... Cutting that hole out was almost as much fun as slow dancing on a bed of hot coals! Karie Daniel Sammamish, WA RV-7A QB


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    Time: 09:55:47 PM PST US
    From: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
    Subject: Re: Duckworks Lighting Question
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com> The idea is that you would have two angles at which you could install the mounting plate. You'll probably only use one, but it's nice to have options... 8-) Tailwheel folks might use one orientation, and nosedraggers may use another orientation. Or, point one up for taxi, one down for landing (or however you see fit). The plate is still adjustable to some extent once you pick two mounting points, but the third point gives you even greater flexibility. http://www.rvproject.com/20020624.html (right wing, some pics) http://www.rvproject.com/20020727.html (left wing, more pics) Have fun, )_( Dan RV-7 N714D http://www.rvproject.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karie Daniel" <karie4@comcast.net> Subject: RV-List: Duckworks Lighting Question > --> RV-List message posted by: "Karie Daniel" <karie4@comcast.net> > > I'm installing my duckworks landing light and there is a rib shaped template. Section 2.4 of the plans say to fit the template into the leading edge (ok so far) then mark the 2 locations. On the template it's marked "A" and "B" which I can safely say is the 2 locations. > > The next step says to drill the 6 holes! Each rib according to the template gets 2 holes, not three. OK so now I go to the drawing and I see three holes are supposed to be in each rib. Two at the top and one at the bottom! What in the wide wide world of sports am I missing here? > > Recommended web site with pics? > > As always thanks for your help. > > BTW...... Cutting that hole out was almost as much fun as slow dancing on a bed of hot coals! > > Karie Daniel > Sammamish, WA > RV-7A QB > >


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    Time: 09:58:40 PM PST US
    From: "Kyle Boatright" <kyle.boatright@adelphia.net>
    Subject: Re: Duckworks Lighting Question
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright" <kyle.boatright@adelphia.net> There are two bottom holes. This give you an adjustment for the angle of the light beam in theory, you should be able to adjust the light(s) for either a level or 3 point attitude, depending on gear type and the landing attitude you favor. KB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karie Daniel" <karie4@comcast.net> Subject: RV-List: Duckworks Lighting Question > --> RV-List message posted by: "Karie Daniel" <karie4@comcast.net> > > I'm installing my duckworks landing light and there is a rib shaped template. Section 2.4 of the plans say to fit the template into the leading edge (ok so far) then mark the 2 locations. On the template it's marked "A" and "B" which I can safely say is the 2 locations. > > The next step says to drill the 6 holes! Each rib according to the template gets 2 holes, not three. OK so now I go to the drawing and I see three holes are supposed to be in each rib. Two at the top and one at the bottom! What in the wide wide world of sports am I missing here? > > Recommended web site with pics? > > As always thanks for your help. > > BTW...... Cutting that hole out was almost as much fun as slow dancing on a bed of hot coals! > > Karie Daniel > Sammamish, WA > RV-7A QB > >


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    Time: 10:00:31 PM PST US
    From: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
    Subject: RV-7 IO-360 baffle question
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com> Configuration: Van's IO-360 baffle kit, RV-7, drawing OP-4. Does part 20 (right front inlet floor stiffener) go on TOP or BELOW part 10 (right front inlet floor). I believe the plans imply the stiffener on top, but that seems like unnecessarily disturbing the flow a little bit -- the little lip formed by the height of the stiffener. Any advice? Thanks in advance, )_( Dan RV-7 N714D http://www.rvproject.com


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    Time: 10:34:23 PM PST US
    From: "Wayne Reese" <waynereese@qwest.net>
    Subject: Duckworks Lighting Question
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Wayne Reese" <waynereese@qwest.net> I think duckwork used to have three holes, a b and optional c. When I ask about something they I believe they told me they were going to get rid of c because it was not needed. Maybe the directions did not keep up with the change. My .02 do not archive Wayne -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Karie Daniel Subject: RV-List: Duckworks Lighting Question --> RV-List message posted by: "Karie Daniel" <karie4@comcast.net> I'm installing my duckworks landing light and there is a rib shaped template. Section 2.4 of the plans say to fit the template into the leading edge (ok so far) then mark the 2 locations. On the template it's marked "A" and "B" which I can safely say is the 2 locations. The next step says to drill the 6 holes! Each rib according to the template gets 2 holes, not three. OK so now I go to the drawing and I see three holes are supposed to be in each rib. Two at the top and one at the bottom! What in the wide wide world of sports am I missing here? Recommended web site with pics? As always thanks for your help. BTW...... Cutting that hole out was almost as much fun as slow dancing on a bed of hot coals! Karie Daniel Sammamish, WA RV-7A QB


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    Time: 10:44:13 PM PST US
    Subject: Trim tab ?s
    From: "" <tx_jayhawk@excite.com>
    --> RV-List message posted by: "" <tx_jayhawk@excite.com> All, Any tips on getting the final little bit of bend on the trim tab? I got the most of it done, but the inboard ends puff out (don't sit flush). Will the pop rivets pull it flush? Also, the countersink got away from me on one of the holes on the trim tab spar. It is actually bigger than the -4. Should I squeeze down a 4 to make it a little fatter? Any other standard rivets I could put it there? I am trying to avoid buying another spar for one bad hole. Thanks, Scott 7A Emp/Wings Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!


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    Time: 10:44:13 PM PST US
    From: "Karie Daniel" <karie4@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Duckworks Lighting Question
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Karie Daniel" <karie4@comcast.net> According to a few web pages I found (thanks Dan C.) this is apparently a hole to adjust the mount more forward if you want. The way the mount comes now it doesn't look like it would need the third hole. I finished the holes tonight. I'm wondering now if I should put a light in each wing as I originally planned. Anyone using just one of these and are happy with the amount of lighting you get? I just don't know if I can bring my self to cut another hole in a perfectly good wing! :-) Karie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wayne Reese" <waynereese@qwest.net> Subject: RE: RV-List: Duckworks Lighting Question > --> RV-List message posted by: "Wayne Reese" <waynereese@qwest.net> > > I think duckwork used to have three holes, a b and optional c. > When I ask about something they I believe they told me they were going > to get rid of c because it was not needed. Maybe the directions did not > keep up with the change. > My .02 do not archive > Wayne > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Karie Daniel > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV-List: Duckworks Lighting Question > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Karie Daniel" <karie4@comcast.net> > > I'm installing my duckworks landing light and there is a rib shaped > template. Section 2.4 of the plans say to fit the template into the > leading edge (ok so far) then mark the 2 locations. On the template it's > marked "A" and "B" which I can safely say is the 2 locations. > > The next step says to drill the 6 holes! Each rib according to the > template gets 2 holes, not three. OK so now I go to the drawing and I > see three holes are supposed to be in each rib. Two at the top and one > at the bottom! What in the wide wide world of sports am I missing here? > > Recommended web site with pics? > > As always thanks for your help. > > BTW...... Cutting that hole out was almost as much fun as slow dancing > on a bed of hot coals! > > Karie Daniel > Sammamish, WA > RV-7A QB > >




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