RV-List Digest Archive

Fri 09/12/03


Total Messages Posted: 20



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 05:44 AM - Re: Empennage Ship Date (Conti, Rick)
     2. 06:34 AM - Re: Empennage Ship Date (Scott Bilinski)
     3. 07:26 AM - Re: RV-7 IO-360 baffle question (Noel & Yoshie Simmons)
     4. 08:13 AM - Re: RV-7 IO-360 baffle question (Dan Checkoway)
     5. 08:28 AM - Full Size Plans (Frederick Oldenburg)
     6. 08:45 AM - Re: Full Size Plans (Knicholas2@aol.com)
     7. 08:59 AM - Re: Full Size Plans (C. Rabaut)
     8. 09:49 AM - Re: Full Size Plans (Bill Dube)
     9. 10:04 AM - Re: Full Size Plans (Jeff Orear)
    10. 10:15 AM - Aft top skin F6112 (Jeff Orear)
    11. 10:29 AM - Re: Full Size Plans (Bartrim, Todd)
    12. 11:01 AM - Adding lead to elevator counterweights after painting?? (czechsix@juno.com)
    13. 11:05 AM - Early report from 9th Annual RV Forum, EAA486 Fulton NY (RV6160hp@aol.com)
    14. 12:16 PM - Re: First flight of C-FSTB - Noise (Bartrim, Todd)
    15. 12:18 PM - Re: Adding lead to elevator counterweights after painting?? (glenn.williams@businessacft.bombardier.com)
    16. 12:51 PM - Re: Aft top skin F6112 (Pat Hatch)
    17. 01:40 PM - Re: LCD (Bert Penney)
    18. 07:04 PM - Oswego Co KFZY RV Forum update (RV6160hp@aol.com)
    19. 07:45 PM - Re: LCD (R. Craig Chipley)
    20. 08:22 PM - Re: Ignition Harness (Jim Bean)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:44:37 AM PST US
    Subject: Empennage Ship Date
    From: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com>
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com> Scott, I don't understand what you mean by, "a nice constant speed". If you mean a propeller, why do you think it will eliminate the need for spoilers? Thank You Rick Conti The Boeing Company office: 703 - 872 - 4602 cell: 703 - 472 - 8592 If you're looking for a cute saying....fuhgeddaboudit -----Original Message----- From: Scott Bilinski [mailto:bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com] Subject: RE: RV-List: Empennage Ship Date --> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com> Why not put the money of spoilers into a nice constant speed. Then you wont need spoilers. At 02:43 PM 9/11/03 -0400, you wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com> > >I have sent an email to Precise Flight asking about spoilers and the RV-10. >Many wouldn't think spoilers are "necessary" on an RV-10, but the advantages >seem high. > >Thank You >Rick Conti >The Boeing Company >office: 703 - 872 - 4602 > cell: 703 - 472 - 8592 >If you're looking for a cute saying....fuhgeddaboudit > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Keith Vasey [mailto:keith@galvinflying.com] >To: rv-list@matronics.com >Subject: RE: RV-List: Empennage Ship Date > > >--> RV-List message posted by: "Keith Vasey" <keith@galvinflying.com> > >By "spoiler" do you mean speed brakes? I was a Mooney dealer until their >2001 implosion. The speed brakes on the modern Mooney are made by Precise >Flight in Bend, Oregon. The retail cost of them is about $4,000 (that's a >wag, because I have only seen an "installed" price). The work great for >slowin' down or goin' down. I use them on every flight in a Mooney. I don't >know whether they're necessary on an RV, but of course "necessary" is rarely >the prime consideration on our aircraft. > >Keith Vasey >Seattle >RV-8 > > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Conti, Rick >To: rv-list@matronics.com; RV10-list@matronics.com >Subject: RE: RV-List: Empennage Ship Date > > >--> RV-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com> > >Does anyone have information on spoilers that can be installed in an RV-10? >I saw an article on a Mooney some time back that had them installed. > >Thank You >Rick Conti >The Boeing Company >office: 703 - 872 - 4602 > cell: 703 - 472 - 8592 >If you're looking for a cute saying....fuhgeddaboudit > > >-----Original Message----- >From: BBreckenridge@att.net [mailto:BBreckenridge@att.net] >To: RV-List@matronics.com; RV10-list@matronics.com >Subject: RV-List: Empennage Ship Date > > >--> RV-List message posted by: BBreckenridge@att.net > >Ok all you "10" builders - I talked to Van's Tuesday around noonish and >here's the latest: >They will be mailing out an information packet later this week or early >next. The first 40 tail >kits will be ready to go around the 22nd of this month. At this point, >they're planning on filling >40 kits per month until the initial order (of a bit over a 100 kits) is >taken care of. > >Bruce >#18 > > Scott Bilinski Eng dept 305 Phone (858) 657-2536 Pager (858) 502-5190


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    Time: 06:34:32 AM PST US
    From: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
    Subject: Empennage Ship Date
    --> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com> Probably bad choice of words, should have said something like, just use a constant speed prop because they act like a speed brake. If you have flown an RV you know the very steep approach angle on final with the CS and no power applied. RV's are slippery aircraft and can be a little challenging for the new pilot to slow down if they are not using a constant speed prop. With a CS they descend very rapidly when the throttle is pulled back and prop at fine pitch. Maybe I completely misunderstand your requirements for the spoilers but with a 650 ft landing distance at gross you can make it into some pretty short fields, with CS of course. Can you tell us where/how you plane to use the spoilers? At 08:42 AM 9/12/03 -0400, you wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com> > >Scott, > >I don't understand what you mean by, "a nice constant speed". If you mean a >propeller, why do you think it will eliminate the need for spoilers? > >Thank You >Rick Conti >The Boeing Company >office: 703 - 872 - 4602 > cell: 703 - 472 - 8592 >If you're looking for a cute saying....fuhgeddaboudit > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Scott Bilinski [mailto:bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com] >To: rv-list@matronics.com >Subject: RE: RV-List: Empennage Ship Date > > >--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com> > >Why not put the money of spoilers into a nice constant speed. Then you wont >need spoilers. > > >At 02:43 PM 9/11/03 -0400, you wrote: >>--> RV-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com> >> >>I have sent an email to Precise Flight asking about spoilers and the RV-10. >>Many wouldn't think spoilers are "necessary" on an RV-10, but the advantages >>seem high. >> >>Thank You >>Rick Conti >>The Boeing Company >>office: 703 - 872 - 4602 >> cell: 703 - 472 - 8592 >>If you're looking for a cute saying....fuhgeddaboudit >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Keith Vasey [mailto:keith@galvinflying.com] >>To: rv-list@matronics.com >>Subject: RE: RV-List: Empennage Ship Date >> >> >>--> RV-List message posted by: "Keith Vasey" <keith@galvinflying.com> >> >>By "spoiler" do you mean speed brakes? I was a Mooney dealer until their >>2001 implosion. The speed brakes on the modern Mooney are made by Precise >>Flight in Bend, Oregon. The retail cost of them is about $4,000 (that's a >>wag, because I have only seen an "installed" price). The work great for >>slowin' down or goin' down. I use them on every flight in a Mooney. I don't >>know whether they're necessary on an RV, but of course "necessary" is rarely >>the prime consideration on our aircraft. >> >>Keith Vasey >>Seattle >>RV-8 >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com >>[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Conti, Rick >>To: rv-list@matronics.com; RV10-list@matronics.com >>Subject: RE: RV-List: Empennage Ship Date >> >> >>--> RV-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com> >> >>Does anyone have information on spoilers that can be installed in an RV-10? >>I saw an article on a Mooney some time back that had them installed. >> >>Thank You >>Rick Conti >>The Boeing Company >>office: 703 - 872 - 4602 >> cell: 703 - 472 - 8592 >>If you're looking for a cute saying....fuhgeddaboudit >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: BBreckenridge@att.net [mailto:BBreckenridge@att.net] >>To: RV-List@matronics.com; RV10-list@matronics.com >>Subject: RV-List: Empennage Ship Date >> >> >>--> RV-List message posted by: BBreckenridge@att.net >> >>Ok all you "10" builders - I talked to Van's Tuesday around noonish and >>here's the latest: >>They will be mailing out an information packet later this week or early >>next. The first 40 tail >>kits will be ready to go around the 22nd of this month. At this point, >>they're planning on filling >>40 kits per month until the initial order (of a bit over a 100 kits) is >>taken care of. >> >>Bruce >>#18 >> >> > > >Scott Bilinski >Eng dept 305 >Phone (858) 657-2536 >Pager (858) 502-5190 > > Scott Bilinski Eng dept 305 Phone (858) 657-2536 Pager (858) 502-5190


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    Time: 07:26:53 AM PST US
    From: "Noel & Yoshie Simmons" <noel@blueskyaviation.net>
    Subject: RV-7 IO-360 baffle question
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Noel & Yoshie Simmons" <noel@blueskyaviation.net> I put mine below. Sincerely, Noel Simmons Blue Sky Aviation, Inc. Phone: 866-859-0390 Fax: 406-538-6574 noel@blueskyaviation.net <mailto:noel@blueskyaviation.net> www.blueskyaviation.net <http://www.blueskyaviation.net> -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Dan Checkoway Subject: RV-List: RV-7 IO-360 baffle question --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com> Configuration: Van's IO-360 baffle kit, RV-7, drawing OP-4. Does part 20 (right front inlet floor stiffener) go on TOP or BELOW part 10 (right front inlet floor). I believe the plans imply the stiffener on top, but that seems like unnecessarily disturbing the flow a little bit -- the little lip formed by the height of the stiffener. Any advice? Thanks in advance, )_( Dan RV-7 N714D http://www.rvproject.com


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    Time: 08:13:36 AM PST US
    From: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
    Subject: Re: RV-7 IO-360 baffle question
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com> Thanks. I got a response from Ken Krueger this morning, who confirmed that it does go below. )_( Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Noel & Yoshie Simmons" <noel@blueskyaviation.net> Subject: RE: RV-List: RV-7 IO-360 baffle question > --> RV-List message posted by: "Noel & Yoshie Simmons" <noel@blueskyaviation.net> > > I put mine below. > > Sincerely, > > Noel Simmons > Blue Sky Aviation, Inc. > Phone: 866-859-0390 > Fax: 406-538-6574 > noel@blueskyaviation.net <mailto:noel@blueskyaviation.net> > www.blueskyaviation.net <http://www.blueskyaviation.net> > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Dan Checkoway > To: rv-list@matronics.com; RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com > Subject: RV-List: RV-7 IO-360 baffle question > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com> > > Configuration: Van's IO-360 baffle kit, RV-7, drawing OP-4. > > Does part 20 (right front inlet floor stiffener) go on TOP or BELOW part 10 > (right front inlet floor). I believe the plans imply the stiffener on top, > but that seems like unnecessarily disturbing the flow a little bit -- the > little lip formed by the height of the stiffener. > > Any advice? > > Thanks in advance, > )_( Dan > RV-7 N714D > http://www.rvproject.com > >


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    Time: 08:28:52 AM PST US
    From: Frederick Oldenburg <foldenburg@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Full Size Plans
    --> RV-List message posted by: Frederick Oldenburg <foldenburg@earthlink.net> How big are the full size plans? I'm trying to decide on an easel or bulletin board setup in the shop. Thanks, Fred do not archive Fred Oldenburg RV-7A - Empennage Kit Ordered http://rv.oldsack.com


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    Time: 08:45:49 AM PST US
    From: Knicholas2@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Full Size Plans
    --> RV-List message posted by: Knicholas2@aol.com In a message dated 9/12/2003 8:33:26 AM Pacific Daylight Time, foldenburg@earthlink.net writes: > How big are the full size plans? I'm trying to decide on an easel or > bulletin board setup in the shop. > > The plans are about 2 ft x 3 feet. I put a cork bullitin board on the shop wall. As the small pieces come together to become BIG pieces, floor space fills up fast! Kim Nicholas RV9A - almost ready to move to the hanger!!!!


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    Time: 08:59:55 AM PST US
    From: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
    Subject: Re: Full Size Plans
    --> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com> Fred, Well if you didn't order "The Quick Build" kit... then the "full size" plans are exactly the same size as the parts. See, what you do is cut out the drawings, glue them together, then (after first mining the ore) you smelt down the aluminum and pour it "carefully" over the paper airplane you've just built, then allow it to cool before attaching the engine, avionics, interior upholstery, and paint..... : } do NOT archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Frederick Oldenburg <foldenburg@earthlink.net> Subject: RV-List: Full Size Plans > --> RV-List message posted by: Frederick Oldenburg <foldenburg@earthlink.net> > > How big are the full size plans? I'm trying to decide on an easel or bulletin board setup in the shop. > > Thanks, > > Fred > > do not archive > > > Fred Oldenburg > RV-7A - Empennage Kit Ordered > http://rv.oldsack.com > >


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    Time: 09:49:08 AM PST US
    From: Bill Dube <bdube@al.noaa.gov>
    Subject: Re: Full Size Plans
    --> RV-List message posted by: Bill Dube <bdube@al.noaa.gov> At 08:28 AM 9/12/2003 -0700, you wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: Frederick Oldenburg <foldenburg@earthlink.net> > >How big are the full size plans? "D" sized. About 36" x 24".


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    Time: 10:04:37 AM PST US
    From: "Jeff Orear" <jorear@new.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Full Size Plans
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Orear" <jorear@new.rr.com> Hi Fred: The plans measure 3 feet X 2 feet. Regards, Jeff Orear RV6A finish kit Peshtigo, WI ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frederick Oldenburg" <foldenburg@earthlink.net> Subject: RV-List: Full Size Plans > --> RV-List message posted by: Frederick Oldenburg <foldenburg@earthlink.net> > > How big are the full size plans? I'm trying to decide on an easel or bulletin board setup in the shop. > > Thanks, > > Fred > > do not archive > > > Fred Oldenburg > RV-7A - Empennage Kit Ordered > http://rv.oldsack.com > >


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    Time: 10:15:13 AM PST US
    From: "Jeff Orear" <jorear@new.rr.com>
    Subject: Aft top skin F6112
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Orear" <jorear@new.rr.com> List: I am currently scratching my head about where to trim the aft top skin, F6112, for my slider-equipped 6A. There are no drawings depicting the dimensions of the arc that is cut out of the forward edge of this skin. All that is said in the instructions is to cut it to match the slider frame. Is this a critical cut? I assume that you don't want to cut too much off so that the rear canopy skirt will overlap this skin adequately. Can anyone give me a ball park idea here? How far away from the center of F606 is the forward edge of your F6112 skin at the top center of the fuselage? Also, how far from F624 is the edge of this skin at the longerons? Thanks in advance folks..... Regards, Jeff Orear RV6A finish kit.....slider under way Peshtigo, WI


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    Time: 10:29:10 AM PST US
    From: "Bartrim, Todd" <sbartrim@mail.canfor.ca>
    Subject: Full Size Plans
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Bartrim, Todd" <sbartrim@mail.canfor.ca> > > How big are the full size plans? I'm trying to decide on an easel or > > bulletin board setup in the shop. > > > > I built an easel on wheels, which I found most excellent as I would simply roll it over to wherever I was working. It would have been a pain in the patootie to have to walk over to the wall everytime I needed to refer to something. However I'm lucky enough to have had a large shop to work in. In a smaller shop where space is an issue, you would also be much closer to the walls. Another issue is that you often need to refer to several sheets within a short span of time. You would need to have a lot of sheets on the wall or continually be reposting them. With the easel, you just pull the current one to the top of the pile. S. Todd Bartrim Turbo 13B RX-9endurance C-FSTB http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm "Imagination is more important than knowledge" -Albert Einstein <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <META NAME"Generator" CONTENT"MS Exchange Server version 5.5.2653.12"> RE: RV-List: Full Size Plans How big are the full size plans? I'm trying to decide on an easel or bulletin board setup in the shop. I built an easel on wheels, which I found most excellent as I would simply roll it over to wherever I was working. It would have been a pain in the patootie to have to walk over to the wall everytime I needed to refer to something. However I'm lucky enough to have had a large shop to work in. In a smaller shop where space is an issue, you would also be much closer to the walls. Another issue is that you often need to refer to several sheets within a short span of time. You would need to have a lot of sheets on the wall or continually be reposting them. With the easel, you just pull the current one to the top of the pile. S. Todd Bartrim Turbo 13B RX-9endurance C-FSTB <A HREF"http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm" TARGET"_blank">http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm Imagination is more important than knowledge -Albert Einstein


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    Time: 11:01:59 AM PST US
    Subject: Adding lead to elevator counterweights after painting??
    From: czechsix@juno.com
    --> RV-List message posted by: czechsix@juno.com Guys, After painting my elevators, they are both trailing edge heavy. I did not trim the L elevator counterweights at all (due to weight of trim tab and servo on that side), and on the right side I trimmed the lead such that it was still overbalanced when unpainted, anticipating that the paint would make it balance "about right". I seriously underestimated the amount of weight the paint would add (the dark blue Sherwim williams Genesis I'm spraying takes 3 coats to get complete coverage). So...I imagine I'm not the first to have this problem, what have others done to add weight to the elevators after painting? The best idea I've come up with so far is to pop rivet in a small aluminum baffle aft of the existing counterweight lead and then pour in an epoxy/lead shot slurry. Let dry, mask off rest of elevator and touch up the area with paint to make it look decent... What say ye RVators? --Mark Navratil Cedar Rapids, Iowa RV-8A N2D in painting hell... The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!


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    Time: 11:05:30 AM PST US
    From: RV6160hp@aol.com
    Subject: Early report from 9th Annual RV Forum, EAA486 Fulton NY
    --> RV-List message posted by: RV6160hp@aol.com From the KFZY field report, 6 RV's have already flown in to the Forum. With the field based RV aircraft and diehard RV plane locals we will have at least 15 on the field Saturday. Mike Seager in the Van's factory Aircraft has made it also and the lessons have begun. KFZY Oswego County, Fulton NY Saturday looks to be intermittent scattered rain forecast, but VFR otherwise, it is a bummer to the south though.... Get there early, spend the night as Sunday after the great pancake breakfast, it looks VFR favorable. You'll have a great time! Hope to see you there the event goes on rain or shine, classes will be held. Thanks to the many RV wanna be's who are driving too...and yes they do make up the majority of our guests! It is not to late, preregistration not required. Get in that car now, what are you waiting for? So once again Thanks to all who are comming!!! David McManmon President, EAA 486 RV6 N58DM Builder-Pilot Previous Post edited below: September 12, 2003 Friday night fly in, cook out and camp out. The EAA 486 General meeting night too. September 13, 2003 Saturday technical seminars all day, meals provided to paid attendee's. Then a nice dinner banquet with a presentation. This year Mr. Kirk House, ex-Director Curator of the Glenn Cirtiss Museum will talk about the books on Glenn he wrote, and how Glenn was the ultimate Experimenter! September 14, 2003 Sunday AM our great pancake breakfast and perhaps a coordinated fly out for lunch, planes, weather and pilots willing. see us at www.eaachapter486.com Last year over 56 RV's and 25 SPAM's flew in with over 150 attendee's. There was Mike Seager and the Factory RV6 doing instruction and manufacturers like Lycoming and Aerospace logic with tables displaying and selling their wares. I could go on...but you get the picture...just ask some one who has been there the $45 is easily worth it. Hope to See you all there. Respectfully, David McManmon President EAA 486 RV6 Flying, Builder, Pilot N58DM DNA


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    Time: 12:16:43 PM PST US
    From: "Bartrim, Todd" <sbartrim@mail.canfor.ca>
    Subject: First flight of C-FSTB - Noise
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Bartrim, Todd" <sbartrim@mail.canfor.ca> > I have head that with the turbo installed, it is possible > to > eliminate the muffler. Have you run the engine up with, and without, > the > muffler? > > > Bill Dube <LED@Killacycle.com> > http://www.killacycle.com/Lights.htm Hi Bill; Yes I did run without the muffler, however I had no exhaust pipe at all, just the outlet directly from the turbo. (exhaust materials were held up at customs at this point). It sounded much like an outboard motor out of water. Certainly quieter than a Lyc and it is quiet enough to eliminate the muffler, however I really want a quiet airplane, as like most pilots, I'm hoping one day to have my own airstrip at home. Even though I live in a rural setting, there is always some jack*** that will complain about noise. In Europe noise regulations have resulted in strict regulations that ban overflight of some cities (any Europeans on the list feel free to correct me). I just feel that if us North Americans are more proactive in managing our own noise emissions, we won't be forced to comply with unreasonable laws. Just one man's opinion.... S. Todd Bartrim Turbo 13B RX-9endurance C-FSTB http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm "Imagination is more important than knowledge" -Albert Einstein <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <META NAME"Generator" CONTENT"MS Exchange Server version 5.5.2653.12"> RE: RV-List: First flight of C-FSTB - Noise I have head that with the turbo installed, it is possible to eliminate the muffler. Have you run the engine up with, and without, the muffler? Bill Dube LED@Killacycle.com <A HREF"http://www.killacycle.com/Lights.htm" TARGET"_blank">http://www.killacycle.com/Lights.htm Hi Bill; Yes I did run without the muffler, however I had no exhaust pipe at all, just the outlet directly from the turbo. (exhaust materials were held up at customs at this point). It sounded much like an outboard motor out of water. Certainly quieter than a Lyc and it is quiet enough to eliminate the muffler, however I really want a quiet airplane, as like most pilots, I'm hoping one day to have my own airstrip at home. Even though I live in a rural setting, there is always some jack*** that will complain about noise. In Europe noise regulations have resulted in strict regulations that ban overflight of some cities (any Europeans on the list feel free to correct me). I just feel that if us North Americans are more proactive in managing our own noise emissions, we won't be forced to comply with unreasonable laws. Just one man's opinion.... S. Todd Bartrim Turbo 13B RX-9endurance C-FSTB <A HREF"http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm" TARGET"_blank">http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm Imagination is more important than knowledge -Albert Einstein


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    Time: 12:18:31 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Adding lead to elevator counterweights after painting??
    From: glenn.williams@businessacft.bombardier.com
    09/12/2003 01:44:58 PM --> RV-List message posted by: glenn.williams@businessacft.bombardier.com have you thought about adding washers to the screws that attach the lead? HMMMM


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    Time: 12:51:25 PM PST US
    From: "Pat Hatch" <pat_hatch@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: Aft top skin F6112
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Pat Hatch" <pat_hatch@msn.com> This is really not a very critical cut at all. What I did was make sure I had several inches forward of the trailing edge of the canopy skirt, then eyeball the curve as is shown on the plans, just wag it. What you will encounter is that as you fit the canopy, you will have to trim off much of the lower part of the skin, especially near the longerons, to keep from interfereing with the canopy frame, etc. In the end I realized I had wasted way too much time pondering this. Pat Hatch RV-4 RV-6 RV-7 QB (Building) Vero Beach, FL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Orear" <jorear@new.rr.com> Subject: RV-List: Aft top skin F6112 > --> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Orear" <jorear@new.rr.com> > > List: > > I am currently scratching my head about where to trim the aft top skin, F6112, for my slider-equipped 6A. There are no drawings depicting the dimensions of the arc that is cut out of the forward edge of this skin. All that is said in the instructions is to cut it to match the slider frame. > > Is this a critical cut? I assume that you don't want to cut too much off so that the rear canopy skirt will overlap this skin adequately. > > Can anyone give me a ball park idea here? How far away from the center of F606 is the forward edge of your F6112 skin at the top center of the fuselage? Also, how far from F624 is the edge of this skin at the longerons? > > Thanks in advance folks..... > > > Regards, > > Jeff Orear > RV6A > finish kit.....slider under way > Peshtigo, WI > >


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    Time: 01:40:32 PM PST US
    Subject: LCD
    From: "Bert Penney" <van@entechnos.com>
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Bert Penney" <van@entechnos.com> Why not buy a notebook computer? There are some inexpensive ones out there for around $1100 that have wide screen displays and built in dvd readers. I know that it would be difficult to fit one into the panel of an aircraft, but I'm sure someone on this list could figure out how to do it. Bert Do not archive. -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Point [mailto:jpoint@mindspring.com] Subject: Re: RV-List: LCD --> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com> Dana, there are plenty of in-dash DVD players out there, none of which are very affordable. Here's a few: http://www.crutchfield.com/cgi-bin/S-RqKQZivPxXa/ProdGroup.asp?c=3&g=129 100&s=0&cc=01&avf=N Jeff Point


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    Time: 07:04:04 PM PST US
    From: RV6160hp@aol.com
    Subject: Oswego Co KFZY RV Forum update
    --> RV-List message posted by: RV6160hp@aol.com Just left the airport.... Meeting night was held, Mike Seager after his flight lessons gave the group a little talk about Van's State of the Business and the unfortunate Red RV6 Oshkosh incident. There is a flying RV6 sans cowls set up in hanger to give a seminar and to discuss his automotive style built fuel injection system. As well the trailer delivered RV8 sans tail/wings but sporting the Subaru Engine FWF package for another seminar....SO WHOLE and apart RV's we got em. 7 RV's yes 3, 6, 7, 8, 9 but no 4's yet ....all tied down, 1 or 2 spams there too already,not including the field based planes. There are 6 or so other RV's there (kind you tow behind the truck and there is more than 10 tenst set up for the overnight campers who don't want to miss the morning roll call.... man these RV builders are a dedicated bunch. Shaping up for a great forum. Regards David McManmon President, EAA 486 N58DM RV6 Builder/Pilot DNA


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    Time: 07:45:12 PM PST US
    From: "R. Craig Chipley" <mechtech81@yahoo.com>
    Subject: LCD
    --> RV-List message posted by: "R. Craig Chipley" <mechtech81@yahoo.com> There is a better way. Buy a portable dvd player which is cheaper, then buy the display on ebay. A much cheaper solution. Go to ebay and google and do a search. --- Bert Penney <van@entechnos.com> wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Bert Penney" > <van@entechnos.com> > > Why not buy a notebook computer? There are some > inexpensive ones out > there for around $1100 that have wide screen > displays and built in dvd > readers. I know that it would be difficult to fit > one into the panel of > an aircraft, but I'm sure someone on this list could > figure out how to > do it. > > Bert > > Do not archive. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeff Point [mailto:jpoint@mindspring.com] > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV-List: LCD > > --> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Point > <jpoint@mindspring.com> > > Dana, > > there are plenty of in-dash DVD players out there, > none of which are > very affordable. Here's a few: > > http://www.crutchfield.com/cgi-bin/S-RqKQZivPxXa/ProdGroup.asp?c=3&g=129 > 100&s=0&cc=01&avf=N > > Jeff Point > > > > Contributions > any other > Forums. > > latest messages. > List members. > > http://www.matronics.com/subscription > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV-List.htm > http://www.matronics.com/archives > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > > > > __________________________________ http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com


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    Time: 08:22:35 PM PST US
    From: Jim Bean <jim-bean@att.net>
    Subject: Re: Ignition Harness
    --> RV-List message posted by: Jim Bean <jim-bean@att.net> I got mine from Mattituck. Jim Bean RV8




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