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1. 02:36 AM - Re: need tip up canopy repair ideas (Jim Sears)
2. 04:48 AM - 7 slider and remote mag install. (Dana Overall)
3. 05:04 AM - Re: Rocket (Doug Rozendaal)
4. 06:06 AM - Re: Rocket (MSices)
5. 06:32 AM - Re: invisible hinge on cowl oil door (John Huft)
6. 06:39 AM - Re: Pneumatic cleco tool--Some of us gotta have it! (Jack Textor)
7. 06:58 AM - oil door hinge (Frazier, Vincent A)
8. 07:04 AM - Re: Rocket (Jim Oke)
9. 07:09 AM - Re: invisible hinge on cowl oil door (DAVID REEL)
10. 07:15 AM - Re: Pneumatic cleco tool--Some of us gotta have it! (Sam Buchanan)
11. 07:17 AM - Re: OT: Virus/Worms (C. Rabaut)
12. 08:49 AM - Correct URL for "The Yard" & cleco tool (Richard Scott)
13. 12:33 PM - Re: Rocket (Bob)
14. 12:52 PM - Dynon magnetometer (Wheeler North)
15. 12:59 PM - CRQ (Wheeler North)
16. 01:31 PM - Re: Rocket (LeastDrag93066@aol.com)
17. 02:20 PM - Re: Rocket (Charlie Kuss)
18. 03:08 PM - Re: Dynon magnetometer (Jeff Orear)
19. 04:28 PM - Re: Rocket (Curt Reimer)
20. 05:01 PM - C-130 (was: Rocket) (Bill Dube)
21. 08:25 PM - Re: need tip up canopy repair ideas (Eustace Bowhay)
22. 11:08 PM - Dynon Magnetometer (All Charged Up) (GMC)
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| Subject: | Re: need tip up canopy repair ideas |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Sears" <sears@searnet.com>
> I have 170 hours on my RV6A. after coming back from Reno air race I found
the
> canopy had separated at the leading edge from the fiberglass on my tip up.
> Any ideas how I should repair this?
>
Maybe you didn't make the plexi rough enough, in the beginning. What one
could do is mix up some epoxy, use a straw that's flattened at one end that
can be pushed in between, and blow it in with the straw. Just be sure to
not suck the epoxy into your mouth as you fill the straw. :-) Of course,
you may have to slip something in between the plexi and the glass to allow
the epoxy to come out of the straw. It may even be a good idea to roughen
things up in between, first. The big hangup is that you'll most likely mess
up the paint.
Jim Sears in KY
RV-6A N198JS
EAA Tech Counselor
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| Subject: | 7 slider and remote mag install. |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
I won't have my finish kit for about another three weeks but while I still
have my aft skins off the fuselage, I want to make my Dynon remote mag
install.
Dan's illustrated install in a previous post seems to be very appropriate
for you tipper guys but would it be appropriate for us slider guys? Is the
slider rail steel or alum? If ferrous, how long is this rail? If alum, is
it bolted to the upper rib positioned between the baggage bulkhead and the
next aft bulkhead? If it's alum, and bolted on, could we use alum or brass
screws?
A couple things for us slider guys, and me in particular are the shoulder
belt cables and manual elevator trim cable. I looked at postioning it
furthur back near the furthest aft bulkhead but that is where the manual
cable turns up and exits the fuselage body, there's no way I can get it 12"
away. In front of this bulkhead is the attachment points for the shoulder
belt cables. If the slider rail is ferrous, the only way I see to mount the
mag in the fuselage is to somehow fabricate a very long bracket and "hang it
down" under the next bulkhead aft of the baggage bulkhead to get it 12" away
from this rail and 12" away form the shoulder cables.
Dana Overall
Richmond, KY
RV-7 slider/fuselage, Imron black, "Black Magic"
Finish kit ordered!! Buying Instruments. Hangar flying my Dynon.
http://rvflying.tripod.com
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com>
My 4 airplanes would be:
Taylorcraft L-2 w/85hp (an L-2 is a cub with Leg Room and they hooked up the
ailerons ;-).)
IFR Rocket! (who needs an RV if you have a Rocket)
P-51A Mustang (A Mustang without the hassles of a Merlin engine. Kits will
be available soon!)
G-V ( If you are gonna dream, dream big!)
A DC-3 would come in handy too for traveling parties too!!! Why can't we
have 5 airplanes?
Tailwinds,
Doug Rozendaal
Needless to say, Do not archive
> Why can't we all have four airplanes? A J-3, an RV, a Rocket and a
> Citation, as the situation dictates?
>
> Do not archive
>
> Larry Pardue
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--> RV-List message posted by: "MSices" <msices@core.com>
Where's your seaplane? You need at least 6.
Mike Sices,
-8
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Doug Rozendaal
Subject: Re: RV-List: Rocket
--> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com>
My 4 airplanes would be:
Taylorcraft L-2 w/85hp (an L-2 is a cub with Leg Room and they hooked up the
ailerons ;-).)
IFR Rocket! (who needs an RV if you have a Rocket)
P-51A Mustang (A Mustang without the hassles of a Merlin engine. Kits will
be available soon!)
G-V ( If you are gonna dream, dream big!)
A DC-3 would come in handy too for traveling parties too!!! Why can't we
have 5 airplanes?
Tailwinds,
Doug Rozendaal
Needless to say, Do not archive
> Why can't we all have four airplanes? A J-3, an RV, a Rocket and a
> Citation, as the situation dictates?
>
> Do not archive
>
> Larry Pardue
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| Subject: | Re: invisible hinge on cowl oil door |
--> RV-List message posted by: "John Huft" <rv8tor@lazy8.net>
Dan, here is another design for the hinge...
http://www.lazy8.net/hinges.htm
I guess the whole thing is better suited to the 8, but take a look.
John Huft
RV8 120 hrs, Pagosa Springs, CO
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Dan Checkoway
> To: rv-list@matronics.com; SoCAL-RVlist@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RV-List: invisible hinge on cowl oil door
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
>
> I'm playing around with a design for the hinge on the oil door on the cowl
> that will make the hinge invisible. I'd like to get some feedback on it
> before I commit to it. Here are some photos of the design, which I played
> around with on scrap:
>
> http://www.rvproject.com/oildoordesign.html
>
> Do you see any potential snags with this design? Any reason why I would
not
> want to use it?
>
> Or...are there any simpler tricks for making the hinge invisible?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> )_( Dan
> RV-7 N714D
> http://www.rvproject.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Pneumatic cleco tool--Some of us gotta have it! |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jack Textor" <jack@personnelincorporated.com>
Dick,
I checked their site and couldn't find them. What category are they listed
under?
Jack
RV8
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Scott
Subject: RV-List: Pneumatic cleco tool--Some of us gotta have it!
--> RV-List message posted by: Richard Scott <rscott@cascadeaccess.com>
So I put about 300 clecos in my HS, then drilled, pulling & moving clecos
as I did so. Must have squeezed those things about 600 times. Next 3 days
I couldn't use my thumbs; arthritis at the base of them flared up from
repeatedly squeezing the cleco pliers.
Turns out The Yard (yardtools.com) has a pneumatic cleco tool on sale for
$25. Sold!
This thing works great! Faster than the pliers & holds the cleco straight
so it doesn't get cocked.
Needs about 70 pounds of air; with less it doesn't fully compress the cleco.
Dick Scott
RV-9A, Emp.
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Frazier, Vincent A" <VFrazier@usi.edu>
Here's a couple pics of my oil door hinge. I found the hinge on one of the junk
tables at Oshkosh. I plan to use a covered cooling plenum above the cylinders
so I'm not too concerned about the door bulging.... although anything is possible
as I haven't flown it yet!
http://www.usi.edu/science/chemistry/vfrazier/2003-08-25/oil%20door%201.jpg
http://www.usi.edu/science/chemistry/vfrazier/2003-08-25/oil%20door%204.jpg
Vince
F-1H Rocket
<http://www.usi.edu/science/chemistry/vfrazier/page1.html>
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--> RV-List message posted by: Jim Oke <wjoke@shaw.ca>
Gee, if wishlists are in order for the RV-list then mine would look like:
1) an Aviat/Christen Husky - for backwoods, remote area flying (it might
even be on floats part of the year);
2) an Aviat/Christen Eagle - for local fun flying, some aerobatics, playing
Red Baron, and nearby fly-in breakfasts;
3) an ex-Cdn. military Canadair Tutor jet trainer - to fly the warbird
circuit in and try and relive some of the happy days of my misspent youth;
4) a Pilatus PC-12 turboprop - for serious IFR travelling with friends and
family to my Caribbean Island retreat or my fishing lodge in the north woods
(according to season).
Since most everything in life is a compromise and mostly since I lack the
$3-5 million dollars to buy such a fleet (never mind the island or the
fishing lodge), I will probably have to settle for my relatively basic
RV-6A. Actually, considering the short field performance, aerobatic
capability, nice crisp handling and cruise speed and range that that Vans
manages to combine in one airframe, this may not be that bad of a
compromise at all. (Gee, I wonder why that sounds a bit like a Vans RV
brochure!)
Jim Oke
Winnipeg, MB
RV-6A C-GKGZ
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Rocket
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com>
>
> My 4 airplanes would be:
>
> Taylorcraft L-2 w/85hp (an L-2 is a cub with Leg Room and they hooked up
the
> ailerons ;-).)
>
> IFR Rocket! (who needs an RV if you have a Rocket)
>
> P-51A Mustang (A Mustang without the hassles of a Merlin engine. Kits
will
> be available soon!)
>
> G-V ( If you are gonna dream, dream big!)
>
> A DC-3 would come in handy too for traveling parties too!!! Why can't we
> have 5 airplanes?
>
> Tailwinds,
> Doug Rozendaal
>
> Needless to say, Do not archive
> > Why can't we all have four airplanes? A J-3, an RV, a Rocket and a
> > Citation, as the situation dictates?
> >
> > Do not archive
> >
> > Larry Pardue
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: invisible hinge on cowl oil door |
--> RV-List message posted by: "DAVID REEL" <dreel@cox.net>
In addition to an invisible hinge, Dan, consider a manual release that will allow
the door to open and cool the engine compartment after landing. Then you'll
have done all my work for me!
Dave Reel - RV8A
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| Subject: | Re: Pneumatic cleco tool--Some of us gotta have it! |
--> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
The pneumatic cleco tool is a cool thing to have in the shop, but 300
clecoes in the HS?
It is not necessary to put a cleco in every hole; a cleco in about every
third or fourth hole is *usually* plenty to hold the parts in alignment.
But with the pneumatic tool, how will you be recognized at fly-ins as an
RV builder if both your forearms are the same size??!??? ;-)
Sam Buchanan
=========================
Richard Scott wrote:
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Richard Scott <rscott@cascadeaccess.com>
>
> So I put about 300 clecos in my HS, then drilled, pulling & moving clecos
> as I did so. Must have squeezed those things about 600 times. Next 3 days
> I couldn't use my thumbs; arthritis at the base of them flared up from
> repeatedly squeezing the cleco pliers.
>
> Turns out The Yard (yardtools.com) has a pneumatic cleco tool on sale for
> $25. Sold!
>
> This thing works great! Faster than the pliers & holds the cleco straight
> so it doesn't get cocked.
>
> Needs about 70 pounds of air; with less it doesn't fully compress the cleco.
>
> Dick Scott
> RV-9A, Emp.
>
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| Subject: | Re: OT: Virus/Worms |
--> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
Jerry,
I've gotten a few dozen; most say "MS" B.S. but I got two from "EBAY"
(fake ebay that is), that wanted me to go to a "Sign-In" site under threat
of losing something or another. My virus detection stuff won't let me go or
do anything (even if I was dumb enough to go or try to open anything with a
virus). Good luck avoiding all of them. I've heard from others they're a
headache when/if they get through.
Take care of your loved ones,
Chuck
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----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
Subject: RV-List: OT: Virus/Worms
> --> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
>
>
> Anyone else on this list getting hit with hundreds of virus and worms?
> My Anti virus is about to be burn up it is
> working so hard. :( I am checking a couple times a day for virus's and
> don't seem to have any on my computer
> but it is really getting irritating. It is mostly crap that says it is
> updates from MS etc. I don't know how to stop them
> other than changing email address. I have scanned with both Norton and
> AVG and both say none on my system,
> All email I send out are checked for virus before being sent.
>
> Jerry
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Correct URL for "The Yard" & cleco tool |
--> RV-List message posted by: Richard Scott <rscott@cascadeaccess.com>
The correct URL is yardstore.com; find the pneumatic cleco tool at
http://www.yardstore.com/tools/cleco.htm#an12165 & look near the bottom of
hte page or do a search for 12165.
Dick Scott
9A emp
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--> RV-List message posted by: Bob <panamared2@brier.net>
My Ultimate RV (Recreational Vehicle) would be a C-130, short dirt strip
capable, a bathroom, room for a kitchen, plenty of sleeping space
inside,you can carry your car/atv/snowmobile (you could even carry a Rocket
but would have to remove the wings). It sure is a lot of fun to fly, can
even fly through hurricanes and and other stuff. It flies on skis and I
heard of someone putting one on floats. The range is pretty good and
cruise is not bad.
Bob
RV6 NightFighter
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| Subject: | Dynon magnetometer |
--> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us>
Jeff,
This looks good, one comment is that if you have a slider, calibration is
going to be a problem as one must access the D-10 throughout the ground
calibration, yet you don't want the slider open while calibrating it.
I would also add that your installation is far easier without the skin
installed, those of us older flying folks are a little more hard pressed to
get into that area. ;{)
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--> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us>
Larry,
sorry to hear I missed you, CRQ is a few blocks from my house. Its common to
have that kinda marine layer WX there, which is why my plane stays at SEE.
CRQ was located in the dumbest possible place they could put it weather wise
as it and Pt. La Jolla are always the last places to clear on the entire So
Cal coast. They also managed to locate it on an old dump site so the field
altitude varies constantly depending on where you are standing due to
underground methane.
Lemme know if you come back this way, maybe we can catch a lunch or
something.
Wheeler
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at.a.big.ISP@matronics.com
--> RV-List message posted by: LeastDrag93066@aol.com
In a message dated 09/22/2003 8:33:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
randy@rv-8.com writes:
> Jim Ayers
> Flight tests completed on two Hartzell props and an MT 3 blade Propeller.
And the results?
Randy Lervold
We used the installed two blade Hartzell CS propeller to get the reference
data with a know characteristic that maximum level flight speed was obtained at
2600 RPM.
The MT 3 blade CS Propeller was 2 mph faster with the same characteristic
that the maximum speed obtained in level flight was at 2600 RPM.
Since this HR2 was going to be running at Reno, we also tried a new Hartzell
2 blade "J" blade propeller. The propeller matched the performance of the MT
propeller from 2300 to 2600 RPM. However, the performance kept improving
above 2600 RPM. This propeller was used at the Reno races.
An F-1 Rocket using an MT Propeller at Reno was running one mph faster than
the HR2.
Jim Ayers
Not exactly unbiased
Southern California Homebuilt MT Propeller Distributor
BTW, the 3 blade MT Propeller is 9 pounds lighter than the Hartzell "J" 2
blade prop.
And even on the six cylinder engine, there was a significant reduction in
vibration using the 3 blade MT Propeller.
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--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie Kuss <chaskuss@bellsouth.net>
Bob,
I want to see your face the first time you have to pay the fuel bill! :-)
do not archive
Charlie Kuss
>--> RV-List message posted by: Bob <panamared2@brier.net>
>
>My Ultimate RV (Recreational Vehicle) would be a C-130, short dirt strip
>capable, a bathroom, room for a kitchen, plenty of sleeping space
>inside,you can carry your car/atv/snowmobile (you could even carry a Rocket
>but would have to remove the wings). It sure is a lot of fun to fly, can
>even fly through hurricanes and and other stuff. It flies on skis and I
>heard of someone putting one on floats. The range is pretty good and
>cruise is not bad.
>
>Bob
>RV6 NightFighter
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Dynon magnetometer |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Orear" <jorear@new.rr.com>
Wheeler:
>I would also add that your installation is far easier without the skin
installed, those of us older flying folks are a little more hard pressed to
get into that area. ;{) <
Like I said before, my 12 year old son can be had for the right price!
;
)
Do Not Archive
Regards,
Jeff Orear
RV6A
finish kit
Peshtigo, WI
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Curt Reimer" <cgreimer@mb.sympatico.ca>
> My 4 airplanes would be:
> Taylorcraft L-2 w/85hp (an L-2 is a cub with Leg Room and they hooked up
the
> ailerons ;-).)
> IFR Rocket! (who needs an RV if you have a Rocket)
> P-51A Mustang (A Mustang without the hassles of a Merlin engine. Kits
will
> be available soon!)
> G-V ( If you are gonna dream, dream big!)
> A DC-3 would come in handy too for traveling parties too!!!
What, only monoplanes? What are you going to fly when it's hot out? Surly a
Fokker DR-1 or Stearman is needed for those hazy summer dawn patrols. Or
perhaps a Pitts, Beech Staggerwing or AN-2 depending on your personal
multi-wing tastes.
Oh, unless the G-V was referring to a WW-1 Gotha GV. A bit heavy on the
controls for a recreational airplane though. :-)
Curt
RV-6 C-GACR
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| Subject: | C-130 (was: Rocket) |
--> RV-List message posted by: Bill Dube <bdube@al.noaa.gov>
I think a C-130 fill-up costs about $20,000. Not bad for a day's
flight.
>Bob,
> I want to see your face the first time you have to pay the fuel bill! :-)
>do not archive
>
>Charlie Kuss
>
> >--> RV-List message posted by: Bob <panamared2@brier.net>
> >
> >My Ultimate RV (Recreational Vehicle) would be a C-130, short dirt strip
> >capable, a bathroom, room for a kitchen, plenty of sleeping space
> >inside,you can carry your car/atv/snowmobile (you could even carry a Rocket
> >but would have to remove the wings). It sure is a lot of fun to fly, can
> >even fly through hurricanes and and other stuff. It flies on skis and I
> >heard of someone putting one on floats. The range is pretty good and
> >cruise is not bad.
> >
> >Bob
> >RV6 NightFighter
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: need tip up canopy repair ideas |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Eustace Bowhay" <ebowhay@jetstream.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: <WPAerial@aol.com>
Subject: RV-List: need tip up canopy repair ideas
> --> RV-List message posted by: WPAerial@aol.com
>
> I have 170 hours on my RV6A. after coming back from Reno air race I found
the
> canopy had separated at the leading edge from the fiberglass on my tip up.
> Any ideas how I should repair this?
>
>
> Jerry Wilken
> N699WP
> Albany Oregon
> 541-926-8316
>
>
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| Subject: | Dynon Magnetometer (All Charged Up) |
--> RV-List message posted by: "GMC" <gmcnutt@intergate.ca>
"All Charged Up" a strange but true story.
I don't have a Dynon but have watched the posts about the super sensitivity
of the Dynon magnetometer and suddenly a light switched on, I remembered the
trouble I had with Underdogs compass.
Way back when, my Sirs Navigator compass was state of the art for
navigation, except it was about 60 degrees off when I tried to mount it in
Underdog, a 6A slider. All kinds of magnetism in everything, roll bar,
controls, everything!
Called in the specialists who degauss engine parts after magnaflux
inspection and they tried to demagnetize the roll bar, then they decided
that the crankshaft must be magnetized! Magnetism everywhere, just what I
really wanted to hear!
Driven almost to tears I purchased a marine compass with remote sensor.
Then I borrowed a gizmo from our local Hydro company that tests for EMF
fields. I found that there was all kinds of magnetism in my shop pouring out
from all those wonderful fluorescent lights I had installed.
Anyway seems like Underdog got all charged up sitting for years in all that
EMF from the fluorescent lights. Once Underdog got to the airport for final
assembly all the magnetism bleed off allowing the Sir's compass to be swung
to within two degrees.
Now who can hold a heading that close!
George McNutt
Langley, B.C.
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