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1. 03:13 AM - Re: OT: Virus/Worms (chris m)
2. 05:45 AM - H10-40 Headsets for sale (Stucklen, Frederic IFC)
3. 05:58 AM - virii (John Huft)
4. 06:06 AM - Re: OT: Virus/Worms (Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club)
5. 07:56 AM - Give my buddy a ride? (Bill VonDane)
6. 08:51 AM - RV-8 1st anniversary observations (Rob Miller)
7. 09:04 AM - Re: virii (Matt Dralle)
8. 01:37 PM - Re: Dynon Report (Bob)
9. 03:13 PM - magnetometer placement/mount update (Jeff Orear)
10. 03:26 PM - Fuel Managment System (JusCash@aol.com)
11. 03:59 PM - Gyros 8 deg tilt question. (BillRVSIX@aol.com)
12. 04:58 PM - Imron paint calculations (D. Wayne Stiles)
13. 05:05 PM - Re: magnetometer placement/mount update (Jim Jewell)
14. 05:24 PM - Re: Fuel Managment System (Jerry Springer)
15. 06:57 PM - Re: magnetometer placement/mount update (Jeff Orear)
16. 08:34 PM - Re: Gyros 8 deg tilt question. (Albert Gardner)
17. 08:35 PM - Re: Gyros 8 deg tilt question. (Vanremog@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: OT: Virus/Worms |
--> RV-List message posted by: chris m <vhmum@bigpond.com>
Heaps thought it was just me!!
Chris and Susie
VH-MUM
VK3GI
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Springer" <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
Subject: RV-List: OT: Virus/Worms
> --> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
>
>
> Anyone else on this list getting hit with hundreds of virus and worms?
> My Anti virus is about to be burn up it is
> working so hard. :( I am checking a couple times a day for virus's and
> don't seem to have any on my computer
> but it is really getting irritating. It is mostly crap that says it is
> updates from MS etc. I don't know how to stop them
> other than changing email address. I have scanned with both Norton and
> AVG and both say none on my system,
> All email I send out are checked for virus before being sent.
>
> Jerry
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | H10-40 Headsets for sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stucklen, Frederic IFC" <Fred.Stucklen@UTCFuelCells.com>
Listers,
I have two H10-40 headsets that I am no longer using, and would like to
sell. Both are a few years old, but in excellent condition. One has a head
pad and gel ear muffs. Both have foam mike filters.
I'm asking $150.00 each, or $275.00 for both. Anybody interested should
contact me off the list at the email address below.
Fred Stucklen
RV-6A N926RV 54 Hrs
fred.stucklen@utcfuelcells.com
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--> RV-List message posted by: "John Huft" <rv8tor@lazy8.net>
As an experiment, I dropped my old subscription to this list, and re-subscribed
under a new email address. During the past two months, I did not post a single
message, and I received no spam or virii. Then, yesterday I posted a message,
and last night I received 6 virus messages and 2 pleas for help from Nigerian
nationals.
My own conclusion is that people are "mining" this list for valid addresses. How
Matt can stop this is beyond me. I guess it is just the cost of sharing knowledge
and opinions with our fellow builders.
John Huft
RV8 Pagosa Springs, CO
www.lazy8.net/rv8.html
see you at Copper State and LOE
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| Subject: | Re: OT: Virus/Worms |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club" <sisson@consolidated.net>
chris m wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: chris m <vhmum@bigpond.com>
>
> Heaps thought it was just me!!
>
> Chris and Susie
> VH-MUM
> VK3GI
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jerry Springer" <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV-List: OT: Virus/Worms
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
> >
> >
> > Anyone else on this list getting hit with hundreds of virus and worms?
> > My Anti virus is about to be burn up it is
> > working so hard. :( I am checking a couple times a day for virus's and
> > don't seem to have any on my computer
> > but it is really getting irritating. It is mostly crap that says it is
> > updates from MS etc. I don't know how to stop them
> > other than changing email address. I have scanned with both Norton and
> > AVG and both say none on my system,
> > All email I send out are checked for virus before being sent.
> >
> > Jerry
> > do not archive
> >
I am getting hit with hundreds a day.
I have set up the filter to catch many of them, but it still takes time for
them to come in and be deleted.
I have come to the conclusion that my email address has can't be used anymore.
Apparently this has happened to this list as well as other lists worldwide. I
get nuisance mail from all over the world.
If it gets too bad, I will go work on the 6 project....
Phil
do not archive
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| Subject: | Give my buddy a ride? |
vansairforce <vansairforce@yahoogroups.com>
--> RV-List message posted by: Bill VonDane <bill@vondane.com>
Hi all...
I am still searching for a ride for a friend of mine if FL... I received a message
from Bernie Kerr regarding a flyin at Love's Landing this weekend and was
wondering if anyone who plans to attend this flyin could give my friend a ride...
Please let me know so I can tell him to show up...
Thanks!
-Bill VonDane
RV-8A
www.vondane.com
www.creativair.com
www.epanelbuilder.com
----- Original Message -----
From: WALTER KERR
Subject: Orlando ride
Hi Bill,
There is an RV flyin by the FLA VAF this Saturday at Love's Landing just north
of Orlando , South of Ocala.
I'm sure if your friend showed up, someone would give him a ride. I'm bumming a
ride up since I can't legally fly at the moment after my MI.
Bernie Kerr, selling 6A, building 9A with rotary
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| Subject: | RV-8 1st anniversary observations |
--> RV-List message posted by: Rob Miller <rmill2000@yahoo.com>
Hi Listers
It's been 1 year and 150 fun-filled hours since the first flight of my O-360 180
hp RV-8 "Bad Cat" last year. Here are some noteworthy items:
1. Carb Heat flange failed at 35 hours. The Van's supplied, tack-welded flange
just didn't hold up. A spun aluminum flange from Spruce has done the trick.
2. Main gear replaced at 40 hours with Grove aerodynamic aluminum gear. What
a nice mod! Saves on parts count, no lower cuffs to make, internal brake line,
and 11 lbs less weight--the wallet is lighter too!
3. Air box mounting plate cracked at 95 hours. Replaced 1/16th plate with 1/8th
stock.
4. Electric Bob fused based electrical system driving an all electrical panel
and a full Apollo stack has worked beautifully--no failures.
5. Control stick is a little short. Make yours long enough so that it just does
clear the bottom edge of the panel.
6. New O-360/Harzell has plenty of power. Lowest initial climb rate recorded:
Malad City 4000 +- MSL, 85 degrees gross weight (and then some) = 700 fpm.
7. CG is extreme forward w/full fuel (O-360, Hartzell, and Panasonic Battery up
front) and solo but flies ok.--I really like this setup with a heavy backseater
and lots of bags.
8. &
&%$#&*& gear towers cut in on leg room and prevent me from putting my feet flat
on the floor. This gets tiring on a long cross country.
9. Aircraft painted at 75 hours in Yerrington NV by Matthews Aviation--Nice guys
who did a great job. 4 color imron = $4300.
10. Buy a big hat! And also some slap up window tint. The sun will cook your
head!
11. Rivets on rear canopy skirt are working and some small cracks have developed
in the canopy. They have been stop drilled.
12. Performance= 75% 206 mph @ 8,000 ft; 65% 201 mph @ 11.5K, Time to climb to
11K = 7 minutes 35 sec @ 1600 lbs.
13. Fun fun fun -- keep on a rivetin'
Rob Miller N262RM 80153 "Bad Cat" 150 hours
Visit us at www.badcataviation.com
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--> RV-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
I think the problem is that many people on the List have a virus or
10. When the infected machine gets a message from you though the List, the
viruses just shoot their wad your way. I don't think its really mining per
say, just how certain viruses work.
Matt Dralle
At 06:59 AM 9/24/2003 Wednesday, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "John Huft" <rv8tor@lazy8.net>
>
>As an experiment, I dropped my old subscription to this list, and
>re-subscribed under a new email address. During the past two months, I did
>not post a single message, and I received no spam or virii. Then,
>yesterday I posted a message, and last night I received 6 virus messages
>and 2 pleas for help from Nigerian nationals.
>
>My own conclusion is that people are "mining" this list for valid
>addresses. How Matt can stop this is beyond me. I guess it is just the
>cost of sharing knowledge and opinions with our fellow builders.
>
>John Huft
>RV8 Pagosa Springs, CO
>www.lazy8.net/rv8.html
>see you at Copper State and LOE
>
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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| Subject: | Re: Dynon Report |
--> RV-List message posted by: Bob <panamared2@brier.net>
I finally installed the Dynon head in the A/C and before I installed the
magnometer, I had to check what software version I had on the Dynon.
Since I did not have the user's manual with me I thought this would be a
real bear. But, it was easy to do a temp wire up and turn it all on. Much
to my surprise it worked. So I started playing with all the buttons, and
sure enough I was able to get the software version, without reading pages
and pages of the user's manual.
Now I have read the user's manual and it is pretty good. But what I really
like, is how intuitive the switchology was for the system. Unlike my Grand
Rapids EIS and Rocky Mountain MicroEncoder, the Dynon can be operated
without having to use the User's manual at all. I am not knocking my RMI
or GRT systems, they are truly great, but the Dynon is just so much eaiser
to use and understand the output.
In a previous life I used to conduct testing of complex systems in a combat
environment. Human Factors and switchology was important to a soldier (or
helicopter pilot) on the battlefield with no time to review the manual
prior to operation. I find the Dynon far exceeds anything I have ever used
in this area. With little or no experience, most aviators could figure out
how to use this system. However, that is not true with the EIS or
MicroEncoder, at least I would not lend my aircraft to someone without a
good checkout on those two instruments.
I must give Dynon an A+ for ease of use and the human factors side of the
system. I have not flown with the system yet, so I can not comment on how
it works in the air. I can comment on the magnometer placement, as it is a
real pain!!! As other posts have indicated, there are few if any good
places to mount it. On my aircraft I have choices between bad and really bad!
Bob
RV6 NightFighter
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| Subject: | magnetometer placement/mount update |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Orear" <jorear@new.rr.com>
List:
Spent a part of today getting my magnetometer mount installed in my 6A.
I was concerned about the proximity of the shoulder harness cable to the magnetometer,
so I gave Dynon a call. I must say that I was impressed with how quickly
I was referred to Paul for technical help.
Paul indicated that my setup being as close as 10 inches from the shoulder harness
cable was perfectly acceptable. That is really the only ferrous material
close to where I have my tray mounted on F607. Mine is a slider, so I plan to
change the last two screws holding the rear slider rail on to brass.
Two things have surfaced regarding the design of my tray. First, I would recommend
riveting a piece of angle to the forward area of the horizontal component
of the tray to stiffen as well as level it. Otherwise it tends to distort and
upset the lateral alignment of the magnetometer.
Second, I plan to apply thick cyanoacrylate glue along the hinge line after I get
the tray aligned in pitch. This will prevent any side to side movement of the
hinge line due to inherent "slop" in the hinge itself. This glue is not to
prevent the hinge from "hinging", but rather to form "Washers" made of glue between
the hinge tabs, keeping the hinge from moving laterally.
Once the tray is installed and after I have my aft top fuselage skin riveted, I
may install more forward support from the front flange of the tray up to the
J channels on either side of the center fuselage rib (again, sorry I don't have
that part number infront of me). As it stands, I can get a slight twist in
the tray, but this may be due to the skin not being riveted and the center rib
twisting with the tray. This should be more ridged with the skin riveted on.
This added support would also prevent the hinge from moving laterally.
Just thought I would pass this on, especially that Dynon feels 10 inches away from
ferrous material is OK.
Regards,
Jeff Orear
RV6A
finish kit
Peshtigo, WI
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| Subject: | Fuel Managment System |
--> RV-List message posted by: JusCash@aol.com
I am shopping for a fuel management system for my -6. I am considering the
E.I. FP-5L, Shadin Miniflo-L and the Matronics FuelChec DX. If any of you are
using these units would you share your experiences to help me make a decision.
Cash Copeland
RV6 Hayward, Ca
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| Subject: | Gyros 8 deg tilt question. |
--> RV-List message posted by: BillRVSIX@aol.com
Hello Quick question on a panel that has a 8 deg tilt I know the artificial
horizon has to have the tilt built in but dose the DG and turn coordinator need
to be set up for the 8 deg tilt panel.
Bill Higgins
RV-6
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| Subject: | Imron paint calculations |
--> RV-List message posted by: "D. Wayne Stiles" <dwstiles@hotmail.com>
I'm asking this for another builder. Does anyone know what the square
footage paintable area is on an RV-6a slider, and/ or the approximate weight
of a single coat of Imron paint on the same plane
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| Subject: | Re: magnetometer placement/mount update |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net>
Hi Jeff
This might work instead of messing with CA glue that might jam up the hinge
pin.
To stop the hinge segments from shifting laterally drill a hole in each of
two hinge segments very close to the hinge pin loop bases.
If the holes are drilled diagonally opposite one another on two opposing
loops a tie wrap cable tie can be threaded through and pulled tight holding
the hinge segments tight against each other.
Jim in Kelowna
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Orear" <jorear@new.rr.com>
Subject: RV-List: magnetometer placement/mount update
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Orear" <jorear@new.rr.com>
>
> List:
>
> Spent a part of today getting my magnetometer mount installed in my 6A.
>SNIP<
> Second, I plan to apply thick cyanoacrylate glue along the hinge line
after I get the tray aligned in pitch. This will prevent any side to side
movement of the hinge line due to inherent "slop" in the hinge itself. This
glue is not to prevent the hinge from "hinging", but rather to form
"Washers" made of glue between the hinge tabs, keeping the hinge from moving
laterally.
>
> Just thought I would pass this on, especially that Dynon feels 10 inches
away from ferrous material is OK.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jeff Orear
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Managment System |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
I have a Matronic DX and love it. Plus you have the best support in the
world right here on the list
through our great list administrator Matt Dralle :) the designer of the
FuelChec.
Jerry
JusCash@aol.com wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: JusCash@aol.com
>
>I am shopping for a fuel management system for my -6. I am considering the
>E.I. FP-5L, Shadin Miniflo-L and the Matronics FuelChec DX. If any of you are
>using these units would you share your experiences to help me make a decision.
>
>Cash Copeland
>RV6 Hayward, Ca
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: magnetometer placement/mount update |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Orear" <jorear@new.rr.com>
Thanks Jim. Sounds like a better plan.
Regards,
Jeff Orear
RV6A
finish kit
Peshtigo, WI
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: magnetometer placement/mount update
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net>
>
> Hi Jeff
>
> This might work instead of messing with CA glue that might jam up the
hinge
> pin.
> To stop the hinge segments from shifting laterally drill a hole in each of
> two hinge segments very close to the hinge pin loop bases.
> If the holes are drilled diagonally opposite one another on two opposing
> loops a tie wrap cable tie can be threaded through and pulled tight
holding
> the hinge segments tight against each other.
>
> Jim in Kelowna
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeff Orear" <jorear@new.rr.com>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV-List: magnetometer placement/mount update
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Orear" <jorear@new.rr.com>
> >
> > List:
> >
> > Spent a part of today getting my magnetometer mount installed in my 6A.
> >SNIP<
> > Second, I plan to apply thick cyanoacrylate glue along the hinge line
> after I get the tray aligned in pitch. This will prevent any side to side
> movement of the hinge line due to inherent "slop" in the hinge itself.
This
> glue is not to prevent the hinge from "hinging", but rather to form
> "Washers" made of glue between the hinge tabs, keeping the hinge from
moving
> laterally.
> >
> > Just thought I would pass this on, especially that Dynon feels 10 inches
> away from ferrous material is OK.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jeff Orear
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Gyros 8 deg tilt question. |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Albert Gardner" <spudnut@worldnet.att.net>
No, of the normal flight instruments, I believe the AH is the only one. If
you get a gyro without the tilt (at least in my case) after the unit is
caged, the horizon drifts up and within about 10 minutes is also badly
lopsided. At Oshkosh, the guys at Kelly Manufacturing (R C Allen) told me
that that is a sympton of a non-tilted gyro installed in a tilted panel. I
understand the amount of tilt is not critical, ie. you don't have to order a
gyro with 7.5 degrees of tilt in it. Also, the panel tilt is measured in
straight and level flight not on the ground.
Albert Gardner
RV-9A 872RV
Yuma, AZ
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| Subject: | Re: Gyros 8 deg tilt question. |
--> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com
In a message dated 9/24/2003 4:01:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
BillRVSIX@aol.com writes:
Hello Quick question on a panel that has a 8 deg tilt I know the artificial
horizon has to have the tilt built in but dose the DG and turn coordinator
need
to be set up for the 8 deg tilt panel.
No.
-GV (RV-6A N1GV 648hrs)
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