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1. 04:38 AM - Re: New Ray Allen G307 stick grips (Mark Phillips)
2. 04:55 AM - FAB to carb attach (Mark Phillips)
3. 06:40 AM - Seats & head to canopy clearnace (Scott Bilinski)
4. 06:51 AM - Re: ANR Headsets (Charlie Kuss)
5. 06:53 AM - Re: New Ray Allen G307 stick grips (Charlie Kuss)
6. 07:03 AM - Re: FAB to carb attach (Elsa & Henry)
7. 07:30 AM - Re: need tip up canopy repair ideas (Elsa & Henry)
8. 07:31 AM - Re: ANR Headsets (Nick N)
9. 07:43 AM - Re: New Ray Allen G307 stick grips (Bill VonDane)
10. 09:17 AM - Gretz Aero pitot bracket kit (Don Mack)
11. 09:57 AM - Re: Gretz Aero pitot bracket kit (Mike Robertson)
12. 10:13 AM - Aux Battery Location (Pat Hatch)
13. 10:18 AM - Re: FAB to carb attach (HCRV6@aol.com)
14. 10:23 AM - Re: Gretz Aero pitot bracket kit (Pat Hatch)
15. 10:24 AM - Re: question on windscreen fairing for slider (Steven Eberhart)
16. 10:37 AM - Re: Gretz Aero pitot bracket kit (McFarland, Randy)
17. 11:00 AM - Re: FAB to carb attach (Rob Miller)
18. 11:06 AM - ANR Headsets (Michael J. Robbins)
19. 11:49 AM - IFR (Wheeler North)
20. 12:00 PM - Re: ANR Headsets (Rob Prior)
21. 12:12 PM - Re: IFR (Sam Buchanan)
22. 12:22 PM - Re: New Ray Allen G307 stick grips (Mark Phillips)
23. 01:02 PM - Re: FAB to carb attach (Mark Phillips)
24. 01:10 PM - Re: IFR (Mike Robertson)
25. 01:45 PM - Re: Gretz Aero pitot bracket kit (Ralph E. Capen)
26. 02:17 PM - New RV Flying (Jim.Truitt@usdoj.gov)
27. 03:12 PM - Re: Seats & head to canopy clearnace (Mike Stephenson)
28. 06:00 PM - High Pressure Fuel Pump Location - RV6A?? (David Schaefer)
29. 07:42 PM - Re: High Pressure Fuel Pump Location - RV6A?? (Alex Peterson)
30. 09:32 PM - HIO-360-D1A ()
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| Subject: | Re: New Ray Allen G307 stick grips |
--> RV-List message posted by: Mark Phillips <ripsteel@edge.net>
Link to Ray Allen's new sticks:
http://www.rayallencompany.com/products/stickgripsG3.html
You also might wish to consider these:
http://www.chproducts.com/retail/CS.htm
They use 22awg wire, are very comfortable (so far- not flying yet) and a lot less
$$$... There's a good photo of Kevin's very sharp -6 with the grips installed
on
the website.
From The PossumWorks in TN
Mark -6A, wiring almost done!!! - do not archive -
Dougpsr@aol.com wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Dougpsr@aol.com
>
> Charlie, what is web address for Ray Allen? How is your project coming? Has
> Eric flown yet? We are putting our 8 in the paint shop the end of next month.
> Sure be glad when it is done.
> Ya'll take care.
> Doug Preston
>
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| Subject: | FAB to carb attach |
--> RV-List message posted by: Mark Phillips <ripsteel@edge.net>
Howdy list-
Anyone have a photo or good description of how to safety wire the bolts
holding the airbox to the bottom of the carb? (Marvel-Schlobber/O-320)
Also, there was a little info in the archives about using internal-tooth
star washers and metal locknuts and/or locktite for the carb-to-sump
nuts. Is this the preferred method, or what are most using?
Thanks!
Mark - do not archive -
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| Subject: | Seats & head to canopy clearnace |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
Just read the post about the head sets hitting the canopy. This reminded me
of something I did when I ordered my seats. I am 6' 3" and find it very
difficult to find anything that fits me right such as cars airplanes etc.
So, when ordering my seats form Oregon Aero I had them make the front seat
bottom in 2 pieces. What they did was cut off 2 inches of the bottom of the
front seat and ship both pieces. I installed them on a hot day so the foam
compressed quickly. I put them in sat down closed the canopy and realized I
only had 1" clearance to the top of the canopy with out head sets. Pulled
out the 2" thick piece got back in and everything is now perfect. I highly
recommend having Oregon Aero make this modification for anyone near 6' 3"
or taller. Just imagine you have the seats upholstered and then realize the
seat bottom is too thick!
Scott Bilinski
Eng dept 305
Phone (858) 657-2536
Pager (858) 502-5190
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--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie Kuss <chaskuss@bellsouth.net>
Nick,
What happens during cruise when ATC broadcasts while listening to music? Does
the music stay or cut out?
Charlie Kuss
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Nick N" <rvator@nicknaf.com>
>
>Really depends on what your preference / budget is. My first set is a
>Headsets Inc. conversion for my DC 10-30's. Inexpensive ($250 ish),
>easy to install, works as advertised, overall I'm very happy with the
>kit. Takes 1 9v battery which lasts (if you remember to turn it off,
>the new kits have a auto off feature) about 15-20 hours. My only
>complaint with them was that my head would start to feel squeezed after
>about 2 hours. This was in no way related to the conversion, but rather
>a typical DC feature.
>
>At Sun-N-Fun this spring I bought a pair of Lightspeed G3 Thirty's. WAY
>comfortable! I can wear these all day with no problem. Battery life is
>about double with two AA's. The G3's have Cell phone and Music input,
>which I thought would be a neat toy at the time, but find invaluable
>now. The ability to plug my MP3 player directly into the headset has
>been great on those long cross countries, as the Cherokee I fly now does
>not have a music input on the intercom. Cell Phone input... I really
>didn't' think I would use this. I was wrong. Getting a Clearance from
>FSS from the run up area is now a non-issue. No more straining to hear
>them over the cockpit noise, and no more running from the FBO jumping in
>the airplane trying to make a Void time.
>
>I'm VERY happy with my Lightspeed's and hard pressed to buy anything
>else.
>
>Nick
>Disclaimer: I'm in no way affiliated with either ANR Inc.
> (http://www.headsetsinc.com/) or Lightspeed
>(http://www.anrheadsets.com). Just a satisfied customer of both.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Crosley, Rich [mailto:RCROSLEY@HRTEXTRON.TEXTRON.COM]
>To: 'rv-list@matronics.com'
>Subject: RV-List: ANR Headsets
>
>I am getting ready to buy ANR headsets. What is everyone happy with?
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Crosley, Rich"
><RCROSLEY@HRTEXTRON.TEXTRON.COM>
>
>Rich Crosley
>RV-8 engine & finish stuff
>
>
>==
>==
>http://www.matronics.com/trouble-report
>==
>==
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: New Ray Allen G307 stick grips |
--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie Kuss <chaskuss@bellsouth.net>
Mark,
How much are the CH grips? There is no info on their web page.
Charlie
>--> RV-List message posted by: Mark Phillips <ripsteel@edge.net>
>
>Link to Ray Allen's new sticks:
>
>http://www.rayallencompany.com/products/stickgripsG3.html
>
>You also might wish to consider these:
>
>http://www.chproducts.com/retail/CS.htm
>
>They use 22awg wire, are very comfortable (so far- not flying yet) and a lot less
>$$$... There's a good photo of Kevin's very sharp -6 with the grips installed
on
>the website.
>
> From The PossumWorks in TN
>Mark -6A, wiring almost done!!! - do not archive -
>
>Dougpsr@aol.com wrote:
>
>> --> RV-List message posted by: Dougpsr@aol.com
>>
>> Charlie, what is web address for Ray Allen? How is your project coming? Has
>> Eric flown yet? We are putting our 8 in the paint shop the end of next month.
>> Sure be glad when it is done.
>> Ya'll take care.
>> Doug Preston
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: FAB to carb attach |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Elsa & Henry" <elsa-henry@darlor-watch.com>
Van's issued a service bulletin, 96-10-1 on 10-8-96 dealing with the
subject. For those of you that have not seen it, here is the gist:
"----The four bolts used to fasten the VA-130C (FAB-320) or the VA131C
((FAB-360) to the carburetor must be safetied. This may be accomplished by
either using bolts with drilled heads and safety wiring them in pairs, or
installing tab lock washers under the bolt heads. If the tab lock washers
are used , a 1/8" hole must be drilled in the top plate for the tab that
prevents the washer from rotating. After the bolt is installed, an ear of
the washer is bent up against one flat of the bolt head, preventing the bolt
from moving."--
Cheers!!---Henry Hore
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| Subject: | Re: need tip up canopy repair ideas |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Elsa & Henry" <elsa-henry@darlor-watch.com>
>In the original manual for my 6 (1990) it was optional regarding the
>installation of the pop rivets (CS4-4) through the canopy base molding. For
>the 6A it calls up the installation of these rivets at 4 inch spacing, was
>wondering if you have those rivets installed. Although it may have happened
>I have not heard of one separating with the rivets installed.
My 1994 vintage manual also called up the rivets as per Eustace's post
above. A word of caution if you have not installed the rivets and are about
to so, be careful that the rivets near the center clear the metal strip
below that holds the weather strip. I know of an unfortunate individual who
installed the rivets and found he couldn't open his canopy after the fact,
having the rivets go right through into the weather strip angle!
Cheers!!----Henry Hore
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Nick N" <rvator@nicknaf.com>
Its selectable on the battery box. You can set it to either soft mute
where it drops to about 5-10% of original volume when either the radio
or the intercom comes alive, or the always on mode where it will not
mute no matter who is talking.
I fly probably 98% of the time with the mute feature turned on. It's a
VERY quick fade out, not a sudden chop like some I've seen. I've found
the setup very friendly on the ears when switching from Pink Floyd to
Denver Center! :-)
Nick
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charlie Kuss
Subject: RE: RV-List: ANR Headsets
--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie Kuss <chaskuss@bellsouth.net>
Nick,
What happens during cruise when ATC broadcasts while listening to
music? Does the music stay or cut out?
Charlie Kuss
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Nick N" <rvator@nicknaf.com>
>
>Really depends on what your preference / budget is. My first set is a
>Headsets Inc. conversion for my DC 10-30's. Inexpensive ($250 ish),
>easy to install, works as advertised, overall I'm very happy with the
>kit. Takes 1 9v battery which lasts (if you remember to turn it off,
>the new kits have a auto off feature) about 15-20 hours. My only
>complaint with them was that my head would start to feel squeezed after
>about 2 hours. This was in no way related to the conversion, but
rather
>a typical DC feature.
>
>At Sun-N-Fun this spring I bought a pair of Lightspeed G3 Thirty's.
WAY
>comfortable! I can wear these all day with no problem. Battery life
is
>about double with two AA's. The G3's have Cell phone and Music input,
>which I thought would be a neat toy at the time, but find invaluable
>now. The ability to plug my MP3 player directly into the headset has
>been great on those long cross countries, as the Cherokee I fly now
does
>not have a music input on the intercom. Cell Phone input... I really
>didn't' think I would use this. I was wrong. Getting a Clearance from
>FSS from the run up area is now a non-issue. No more straining to hear
>them over the cockpit noise, and no more running from the FBO jumping
in
>the airplane trying to make a Void time.
>
>I'm VERY happy with my Lightspeed's and hard pressed to buy anything
>else.
>
>Nick
>Disclaimer: I'm in no way affiliated with either ANR Inc.
> (http://www.headsetsinc.com/) or Lightspeed
>(http://www.anrheadsets.com). Just a satisfied customer of both.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Crosley, Rich [mailto:RCROSLEY@HRTEXTRON.TEXTRON.COM]
>To: 'rv-list@matronics.com'
>Subject: RV-List: ANR Headsets
>
>I am getting ready to buy ANR headsets. What is everyone happy with?
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Crosley, Rich"
><RCROSLEY@HRTEXTRON.TEXTRON.COM>
>
>Rich Crosley
>RV-8 engine & finish stuff
>
>
>==
>==
>http://www.matronics.com/trouble-report
>==
>==
>
>
==
==
http://www.matronics.com/trouble-report
==
==
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| Subject: | Re: New Ray Allen G307 stick grips |
--> RV-List message posted by: Bill VonDane <bill@vondane.com>
http://rayallencompany.com/RACmedia/2002orderform.pdf
-Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charlie Kuss" <chaskuss@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: New Ray Allen G307 stick grips
--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie Kuss <chaskuss@bellsouth.net>
Mark,
How much are the CH grips? There is no info on their web page.
Charlie
>--> RV-List message posted by: Mark Phillips <ripsteel@edge.net>
>
>Link to Ray Allen's new sticks:
>
>http://www.rayallencompany.com/products/stickgripsG3.html
>
>You also might wish to consider these:
>
>http://www.chproducts.com/retail/CS.htm
>
>They use 22awg wire, are very comfortable (so far- not flying yet) and a
lot less
>$$$... There's a good photo of Kevin's very sharp -6 with the grips
installed on
>the website.
>
> From The PossumWorks in TN
>Mark -6A, wiring almost done!!! - do not archive -
>
>Dougpsr@aol.com wrote:
>
>> --> RV-List message posted by: Dougpsr@aol.com
>>
>> Charlie, what is web address for Ray Allen? How is your project coming?
Has
>> Eric flown yet? We are putting our 8 in the paint shop the end of next
month.
>> Sure be glad when it is done.
>> Ya'll take care.
>> Doug Preston
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Gretz Aero pitot bracket kit |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Don Mack" <don@dmack.net>
I want to install the Dynon AOA meter which requires the Gretz Aero
(http://www.gretzaero.com/) pitot bracket kit. I had already drilled my 6A
wing as per plans for the standard pitot installation. Does anyone with a 6A
know if the bracket installs in the same location? I contacted Gretz and
have not received a reply.
Don Mack
don@dmack.net www.dmack.net
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| Subject: | Re: Gretz Aero pitot bracket kit |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Robertson" <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
Don,
It does not. The Gretz mount is installed aft of the Spar adjacent to a
rib. With the extended profile of the pitot tube design (Dynon's included)
that fits the Gretz mount the measuring point is in approximately the same
air as the standard vans design. In our quick build, where the piot hole is
already drilled, we put a pop-in style chrome button in the old pitot mount
hole and make a new hole closer to the rib. Mounting instructions for the
Gretz mount come with the mount.
Mike Robertson
>From: "Don Mack" <don@dmack.net>
>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RV-List: Gretz Aero pitot bracket kit
>Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 08:55:21 -0500
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Don Mack" <don@dmack.net>
>
>I want to install the Dynon AOA meter which requires the Gretz Aero
>(http://www.gretzaero.com/) pitot bracket kit. I had already drilled my 6A
>wing as per plans for the standard pitot installation. Does anyone with a
>6A
>know if the bracket installs in the same location? I contacted Gretz and
>have not received a reply.
>
>Don Mack
>don@dmack.net www.dmack.net
>
>
Add MSN 8 Internet Software to your existing Internet access and enjoy
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| Subject: | Aux Battery Location |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Pat Hatch" <pat_hatch@msn.com>
For those building all-electric airplanes with an aux battery, here's an idea for
its location.
See my installation at:
http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-pathatch
go to RV-7 Project, then Aux Batt Mount.
Pat Hatch
RV-4
RV-6
RV-7 QB (Building)
Vero Beach, FL
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| Subject: | Re: FAB to carb attach |
--> RV-List message posted by: HCRV6@aol.com
Mark: I drilled the heads of grade 8 bolts from the aviation supply aisle
at the local hardware store and safety wired them in pairs. Drilling those
suckers was (is) a challenge (learning experience). I went through four drill
bits and as many extra bolts trying to use my clunky drill press. A friend with
a good quality combi mill/drill press tool finally showed me how to do it.
Harry Crosby
Pleasanton, California
RV-6, firewall forward
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| Subject: | Re: Gretz Aero pitot bracket kit |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Pat Hatch" <pat_hatch@msn.com>
Don, actually you can mount the Gretz pitot kit in several locations. I
found it more convenient to move it to the next bay outboard of the
inspection cover to give more clearance from the tiedown. If you have
already drilled the hole in the flange/skin for Van's pilot tube, the Gretz
doubler has a joggle/flange that will probably cover this hole. Or you
could patch the hole and move the Gretz kit outboard.
Pat Hatch
RV-4
RV-6
RV-7 QB (Building)
Vero Beach, FL
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Mack" <don@dmack.net>
Subject: RV-List: Gretz Aero pitot bracket kit
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Don Mack" <don@dmack.net>
>
> I want to install the Dynon AOA meter which requires the Gretz Aero
> (http://www.gretzaero.com/) pitot bracket kit. I had already drilled my 6A
> wing as per plans for the standard pitot installation. Does anyone with a
6A
> know if the bracket installs in the same location? I contacted Gretz and
> have not received a reply.
>
> Don Mack
> don@dmack.net www.dmack.net
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: question on windscreen fairing for slider |
--> RV-List message posted by: Steven Eberhart <newtech@newtech.com>
Has anyone used a very dark or black window tint film trimmed to just
cover the bond area? I am in the process of painting an RV-8 with PPG
Concept and need to do something about the back side of the molding that
shows through the canopy also.
Will be painting the fuselage in a week or so. Cowling is painted and I
am on a break letting the primer setup on the wing tips I just painted.
Starting to develop a nice feeling for PPG Concept. I was planning on
one gallon of primer and two gallons of color but that is looking like
it isn't going to be enough.
Steve Eberhart
RV-7A - working on wings and painting a friend's RV-8
lex Peterson wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@usjet.net>
>
>>Is it recommended to do anything to the inside of the
>>windscreen to block the view of the backside of the bond area
>>at the base of the windscreen? I'm wondering if I should
>>paint that area on the inside of the windscreen. (I couldn't
>>find an answer in the archives.)
>>
>>Chris Heitman
>>Dousman WI
>>RV-9A N94ME (reserved)
>>ready to install windscreen
>
>
>
> I painted mine with flat black spray paint from the hardware store.
>
> Alex Peterson
> Maple Grove, MN
> RV6-A N66AP 373 hours
> www.usfamily.net/web/alexpeterson
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Gretz Aero pitot bracket kit |
That makes two of us with that question.
R
--> RV-List message posted by: "McFarland, Randy" <Randy.McFarland@novellus.com>
----------
From: Don Mack [SMTP:don@dmack.net]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 6:55 AM
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Subject: RV-List: Gretz Aero pitot bracket kit
--> RV-List message posted by: "Don Mack" <don@dmack.net>
I want to install the Dynon AOA meter which requires the Gretz Aero
(http://www.gretzaero.com/) pitot bracket kit. I had already drilled
my 6A
wing as per plans for the standard pitot installation. Does anyone
with a 6A
know if the bracket installs in the same location? I contacted Gretz
and
have not received a reply.
Don Mack
don@dmack.net www.dmack.net
http://www.matronics.com/trouble-report
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| Subject: | Re: FAB to carb attach |
--> RV-List message posted by: Rob Miller <rmill2000@yahoo.com>
Mark
Spencer Aircraft in Washington State has just the bolts you need--Coarse threads
with drilled heads. The ones that came with the engine are not drilled--not
good, you wouldn't want the carb to ingest a loosened bolt and mine were not
quite long enough. Spencer has a number of sizes and I enjoy doing business with
them.
Rob Miller -8 N262RM "Bad Cat" 150 hours
visit us at www.badcataviation.com
HCRV6@aol.com wrote:
--> RV-List message posted by: HCRV6@aol.com
Mark: I drilled the heads of grade 8 bolts from the aviation supply aisle
at the local hardware store and safety wired them in pairs. Drilling those
suckers was (is) a challenge (learning experience). I went through four drill
bits and as many extra bolts trying to use my clunky drill press. A friend with
a good quality combi mill/drill press tool finally showed me how to do it.
Harry Crosby
Pleasanton, California
RV-6, firewall forward
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Michael J. Robbins" <michael.j.robbins@verizon.net>
The choice of a headset is very subjective. Everyone's hearing is
different, and what works for one will not for another. Here is my
experience. After 43 years of flying, many without any hearing protection,
I have a hearing loss in the voice range, and most sounds are a bit muffled
to my ears. I've found that I need a headset with a sharp, clear tone that
may be irritating to others. Also besides bad hearing I have very
sensitive hearing, which is perhaps an oxymoron, but because of that I wear
earplugs under my headsets.
I have currently have four ANR headsets. An old black first generation
Telex ANR with Oregon Aero ear cups, a DC H10-56, designed for helicopter
use with larger cups and greater passive protection, also with Oregon Aero
ear cups, a new Telex Stratos, and just purchased the latest generation
Bose X. The old Telex ANR still works and was OK for it's time. I like
the DC construction, but am disappointed in the anemic ANR. Before I
bought the Telex Statos last year I borrowed five different ANR headsets,
including the Bose, from an avionics store and took them up in my 8. I
found the Stratos the sharpest, clearest, and having the greatest volume,
needed to offset the earplugs. I was disappointed in the Bose. It had
insufficient volume and was muffled, and less attenuation than the
Stratos. I have since tried the Lightspeeds, and they work OK, but seem
bulky with too much plastic and (although this may seem politically
incorrect), are made in China which I don't like. And before you throw
darts, my wife is Chinese. My wife likes the Bose the best, because they
are the most comfortable and lightest, so I bought those for her. I just
tried them yesterday (again) and I still don't like them. But her hearing
is different, and she does.
So, you have to try them all if you are going to buy the high end ones. And
you generally do get what you pay for.
Mike Robbins
RV-8 N88MJ 308 hours
Seattle area
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--> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us>
Mike,
the question as I see it is that most EXPs are certified as VFR and are now
allowed to make major alterations with a log book sign off and 5 hours of
flight testing. So does making the major alterations such that it is now IFR
qualified constitute only making major alterations or does it constitute a
change in certification status which is then being interpreted as a need for
recertification. From what I can devine from my Special Airworthiness
Certificate addendum this is only a major alteration and the aircraft is
still Special Airworthiness - Experimental regardless of mission
capabilities.
I would also state that parts of FAR 91.205 D are quickly becoming out of
date given the pending evolution of technology and I would hope your
contemporaries are looking at that. But I'm not sure there is a fix that
would ever be received well in the NPRM process. The key seems to be a
clarification of the term "Gyroscopic". Must this be an object of definable
mass spinning around, or can it be an electronic sensor system sensing the
same or similarly reliable physical phenomina?
At this point, in your shoes with my inspector/agent status on the line I
would be conservative and say, "The Law says, where is the gyro in it???"
But that doesn't preclude that the new systems aren't viable and should be
allowed into our airplanes for IFR use. It is one of the FAA's charters to
help maintain the economic viability of this industry. So it will be
interesting to see how this plays out.
W
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| Subject: | Re: ANR Headsets |
--> RV-List message posted by: Rob Prior <rv7@b4.ca>
Michael J. Robbins wrote:
> So, you have to try them all if you are going to buy the high end ones. And
> you generally do get what you pay for.
For what it's worth, here's a link to a review our flying club did a
while ago. In the end, we decided the Lightspeed QFR Cross Country was
the best ANR headset "bang-for-the-buck". They're not pretty, but they
are pretty robust, and they do work well. As always, your mileage may vary.
http://www.b4.ca/raa_85/story/ANRHeadsets/
-Rob Prior
rv7 "at" b4.ca
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--> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
I didn't realize the DAR or FAA inspector had any say in whether the
plane can be flown under an IFR flight plan. The operating limitations
allow day VFR ops, and night VFR/IFR ops if equipped according to
91.205; it is the pilot's responsibility to determine whether or not the
plane is so equipped.
There is no such thing as an "FAA IFR certification" for an experimental
aircraft.
The big question is whether or not the insurance carrier is satisfied
the aircraft was properly equipped for the conditions under which an
accident occurred.
Sam Buchanan
===================
Wheeler North wrote:
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us>
>
> Mike,
>
> the question as I see it is that most EXPs are certified as VFR and are now
> allowed to make major alterations with a log book sign off and 5 hours of
> flight testing. So does making the major alterations such that it is now IFR
> qualified constitute only making major alterations or does it constitute a
> change in certification status which is then being interpreted as a need for
> recertification. From what I can devine from my Special Airworthiness
> Certificate addendum this is only a major alteration and the aircraft is
> still Special Airworthiness - Experimental regardless of mission
> capabilities.
>
> I would also state that parts of FAR 91.205 D are quickly becoming out of
> date given the pending evolution of technology and I would hope your
> contemporaries are looking at that. But I'm not sure there is a fix that
> would ever be received well in the NPRM process. The key seems to be a
> clarification of the term "Gyroscopic". Must this be an object of definable
> mass spinning around, or can it be an electronic sensor system sensing the
> same or similarly reliable physical phenomina?
>
> At this point, in your shoes with my inspector/agent status on the line I
> would be conservative and say, "The Law says, where is the gyro in it???"
> But that doesn't preclude that the new systems aren't viable and should be
> allowed into our airplanes for IFR use. It is one of the FAA's charters to
> help maintain the economic viability of this industry. So it will be
> interesting to see how this plays out.
>
> W
>
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| Subject: | Re: New Ray Allen G307 stick grips |
--> RV-List message posted by: Mark Phillips <ripsteel@edge.net>
When I bought they were charging $117 each, but Kevin gave me two of them for just
under $200. He even threw in a couple of extra trigger buttons that I asked for
so I
could play with them. They are pretty impressive so far- I tried on the Infinitys
at
OSH and found the CH's were much more comfortable without all those buttons poking
out
everywhere, plus they are a little bit slimmer and fit my hand very well.
Contact Kevin Williamson from the website- he was very helpful and built an absolutely
beautiful -7!
Mark
Charlie Kuss wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Charlie Kuss <chaskuss@bellsouth.net>
>
> Mark,
> How much are the CH grips? There is no info on their web page.
> Charlie
>
> >--> RV-List message posted by: Mark Phillips <ripsteel@edge.net>
> >
> >Link to Ray Allen's new sticks:
> >
> >http://www.rayallencompany.com/products/stickgripsG3.html
> >
> >You also might wish to consider these:
> >
> >http://www.chproducts.com/retail/CS.htm
> >
> >They use 22awg wire, are very comfortable (so far- not flying yet) and a lot
less
> >$$$... There's a good photo of Kevin's very sharp -6 with the grips installed
on
> >the website.
> >
> > From The PossumWorks in TN
> >Mark -6A, wiring almost done!!! - do not archive -
> >
> >Dougpsr@aol.com wrote:
> >
> >> --> RV-List message posted by: Dougpsr@aol.com
> >>
> >> Charlie, what is web address for Ray Allen? How is your project coming? Has
> >> Eric flown yet? We are putting our 8 in the paint shop the end of next month.
> >> Sure be glad when it is done.
> >> Ya'll take care.
> >> Doug Preston
> >>
> >
> >
>
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| Subject: | Re: FAB to carb attach |
--> RV-List message posted by: Mark Phillips <ripsteel@edge.net>
I'd like to thank John, Mahlon, Henry, Harry, Rob & any others that replied- if
this stuff comes apart now it's because the molecules disassembled!
Oh yeah, and THANKS Matt!
Mark - do not archive -
Rob Miller wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Rob Miller <rmill2000@yahoo.com>
>
> Mark
>
> Spencer Aircraft in Washington State has just the bolts you need--Coarse threads
with drilled heads. The ones that came with the engine are not drilled--not
good, you wouldn't want the carb to ingest a loosened bolt and mine were not
quite long enough. Spencer has a number of sizes and I enjoy doing business
with them.
>
> Rob Miller -8 N262RM "Bad Cat" 150 hours
> visit us at www.badcataviation.com
>
> HCRV6@aol.com wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: HCRV6@aol.com
>
> Mark: I drilled the heads of grade 8 bolts from the aviation supply aisle
> at the local hardware store and safety wired them in pairs. Drilling those
> suckers was (is) a challenge (learning experience). I went through four drill
> bits and as many extra bolts trying to use my clunky drill press. A friend with
> a good quality combi mill/drill press tool finally showed me how to do it.
>
> Harry Crosby
> Pleasanton, California
> RV-6, firewall forward
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Robertson" <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
Wheeler,
See notes imbedded in each paragraph
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us>
>
>Mike,
>
>the question as I see it is that most EXPs are certified as VFR and are now
>allowed to make major alterations with a log book sign off and 5 hours of
>flight testing. So does making the major alterations such that it is now
>IFR
>qualified constitute only making major alterations or does it constitute a
>change in certification status which is then being interpreted as a need
>for
>recertification. From what I can devine from my Special Airworthiness
>Certificate addendum this is only a major alteration and the aircraft is
>still Special Airworthiness - Experimental regardless of mission
>capabilities.
>
On this issue we really need to look at YOUR aircraft's Operating
Limitations and what they say. If you have the older operating limitations
that state you must seek and get approval for any major change then you will
need to seek approval for installing those extra items need on your aircraft
to meet the requirements of 91.205(e). Those same older operating
limitations alwo usually stated that your aircraft was/is restricted to VFR
day, or VFR night, of IFR. If you have the newer operating limitations that
allow you to make major changes/alterations yourself and place the aircraft
back into a five hour test flight period, then you are in luck because these
limitations also usually say that your aircraft is restricted to day VFR
unless appropriately equipped for night and/or IFR. So on these you install
the needed equipment, test fly it for a minimum of 5 hours, sign it off
yourself and go fly night and/or IFR.
But for those of you with the older operating limitations there is an out.
If you have the older operating limitations you can apply for, and will be
granted, newer operating limitations as layed out in Order 8130.2E. This
order is available to all on the internet.
>I would also state that parts of FAR 91.205 D are quickly becoming out of
>date given the pending evolution of technology and I would hope your
>contemporaries are looking at that. But I'm not sure there is a fix that
>would ever be received well in the NPRM process. The key seems to be a
>clarification of the term "Gyroscopic". Must this be an object of definable
>mass spinning around, or can it be an electronic sensor system sensing the
>same or similarly reliable physical phenomina?
If you were to look in Part 23.1311 you will notice that the newer MFD
instruments are addressed and can replace "gyroscopic" instruments. So now
instead of "Gyroscopic" meaning a physical style of instrument it has
evolved to be understood to mean a gyroscopic type of instrument. In type
certificated aircraft if they do use MFDs for their flight instruments they
must also have a backup but this does not apply to homebuilt aircraft. The
important thing here is that we are supposed to already recognize MFDs as a
gyropscopic type of instrument if it displays attitude, etc.
>
>At this point, in your shoes with my inspector/agent status on the line I
>would be conservative and say, "The Law says, where is the gyro in it???"
>But that doesn't preclude that the new systems aren't viable and should be
>allowed into our airplanes for IFR use. It is one of the FAA's charters to
>help maintain the economic viability of this industry. So it will be
>interesting to see how this plays out.
>
At this time I am trying to put together the needed information, with
specifics, to write something to clarify this issue. Generally speaking I
hate writing lengthly documents but I feel strongly that this issue needs
some input so I am going to try to force myself to write this.
Unfortunately something of this nature has to be reviewed by the powers on
high so it will take several weeks before I will be able to let it out. I
will let everybody know when it is ready.
Mike Robertson
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| Subject: | Re: Gretz Aero pitot bracket kit |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
It doesn't....
I have some pictures if you want to see what I did.
Zap me directly,
Ralph Capen
***SNIP***
> I want to install the Dynon AOA meter which requires the Gretz Aero
> (http://www.gretzaero.com/) pitot bracket kit. I had already drilled my 6A
> wing as per plans for the standard pitot installation. Does anyone with a
6A
> know if the bracket installs in the same location? I contacted Gretz and
> have not received a reply.
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim.Truitt@usdoj.gov" <Jim.Truitt@usdoj.gov>
Just wanted to let everyone know - kit # 81610, an RV-8A (N627TT), is
now flying. 180 hp. Aero Sport Power, carb, Sensenich fixed pitch 85",
full interior, day/night VFR, 1107 lbs.
A lot of thanks to John Crabtree, Vince Frazier, and Steve Steckler for all
their help, and especially John's "engineering s*** ".
Special thanks to my most patient and loveable wife, Terri, who, by the
way, designed the paint scheme and the interior, and installed the
interior.
Flys GREAT! Only 8 hours so far - can't wait to get some more stick
time!
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| Subject: | Re: Seats & head to canopy clearnace |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Stephenson" <mike@proclaimweb.com>
At Oshkosh, I purchased an ear plug headset from
http://www.quiettechnologies.com/ for less than the cost of a good ANR
headset you get better noise canceling and it will never hit the canopy. The
total weight is 0.38 oz (11 grams) I have 20 hours flight time on it in both
a Cessna Skylane and an RV-6A and there is nothing better. I have already
sold my David Clark and Lightspeed headsets. Sweaty ears no more and no more
bad hair days for my wife.!!!!
The company is owned by a nice feller who will return you money if you don't
like them. Not everyone can wear this headset. If you ear canal is shaped
like a funnel the boom mic will pivot downward. If your canal has a slight
angle it works very well.
> --> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski
<bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
>
> Just read the post about the head sets hitting the canopy.
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| Subject: | High Pressure Fuel Pump Location - RV6A?? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "David Schaefer" <dschaefer1@kc.rr.com>
I'm wondering where the RV6 folks with I0-360's mount the high pressure
fuel pump that's required. I really don't like the idea of running it
down the center floor. Does anyone have any good pictures I can take a
look at for ideas?
Thanks..
David Schaefer
RV6-A Finish
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| Subject: | High Pressure Fuel Pump Location - RV6A?? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@usjet.net>
> I'm wondering where the RV6 folks with I0-360's mount the
> high pressure fuel pump that's required. I really don't like
> the idea of running it down the center floor. Does anyone
> have any good pictures I can take a look at for ideas?
>
> Thanks..
>
> David Schaefer
David, see http://www.usfamily.net/web/alexpeterson and click on misc,
you can see where I mounted mine.
Alex Peterson
Maple Grove, MN
RV6-A N66AP 373 hours (doing second annual already!)
www.usfamily.net/web/alexpeterson
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--> RV-List message posted by: <pshipley17@comcast.net>
Is the HIO-360-D1A from the Schweizer 300C helicopter practical for use in an RV?
This is the angle valve engine with a conical mount and a rear mount for the
fuel injection servo. I am building an RV-4 and was wondering if the modifications
would be worth the effort. Would this engine be suitable for an RV-8?
Thanks
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