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1. 03:52 AM - RV-8 Empennage for Sale (Jim Nolan)
2. 06:33 AM - Altrak Altitude Hold (Lenleg@aol.com)
3. 06:49 AM - Fw: [RVBGOTT] Any RV's nearby (Lenleg@aol.com)
4. 07:07 AM - Re: Altrak Altitude Hold (Sam Buchanan)
5. 08:11 AM - Re: RV Customer Number at Van's (Charles Rowbotham)
6. 08:13 AM - Re: Altrak Altitude Hold (Charles Rowbotham)
7. 08:15 AM - Re: Fw: [RVBGOTT] Any RV's nearby (C. Rabaut)
8. 09:12 AM - Re: Fw: [RVBGOTT] Any RV's nearby (Scott Bilinski)
9. 09:32 AM - Re: Fw: [RVBGOTT] Any RV's nearby (Mark Phillips)
10. 09:39 AM - How Wide a Door (Martin Sobel)
11. 10:36 AM - Re: ? is the main Def. on the vr-7 & vr-9 (Bob Hassel)
12. 10:50 AM - Re: Wither Dan? (Dan Checkoway)
13. 11:20 AM - Re: Flap leading edge protection (Richard Dudley)
14. 12:43 PM - Re: How Wide a Door (Jim Jewell)
15. 01:00 PM - GRT EFIS (Jerry2DT@aol.com)
16. 01:20 PM - Re: rudder (David.vonLinsowe)
17. 01:22 PM - Re: How Wide a Door (Jack Blomgren)
18. 01:47 PM - Re: How Wide a Door ()
19. 02:34 PM - Re: Fw: [RVBGOTT] Any RV's nearby (Harvey Sigmon)
20. 03:19 PM - Re: Fw: [RVBGOTT] Any RV's nearby (Louis Willig)
21. 03:30 PM - Re: How Wide a Door (Curt Hoffman)
22. 03:31 PM - Thank you (Lyle Peterson)
23. 03:48 PM - Re: Fw: [RVBGOTT] Any RV's nearby (C. Rabaut)
24. 03:50 PM - Re: ? is the main Def. on the vr-7 & vr-9 (David Taylor)
25. 05:02 PM - Run away rivet gun! (Charles L. Cotton)
26. 05:15 PM - EIS4000 engine monitor questions (C J Heitman)
27. 05:19 PM - Van's Tail Wheel (Rich Crosley)
28. 06:33 PM - Re: Run away rivet gun! (Bob Hassel)
29. 07:22 PM - Re: Van's Tail Wheel (Russell Duffy)
30. 07:38 PM - Re: EIS4000 engine monitor questions (Ed Perry)
31. 07:53 PM - Dynon Depth (Larygagnon@aol.com)
32. 07:56 PM - Re: Van's Tail Wheel (Larry Pardue)
33. 08:01 PM - Re: Run away rivet gun! (Steven Eberhart)
34. 08:04 PM - Re: Van's Tail Wheel (Sam Buchanan)
35. 08:12 PM - Re: Dynon Depth (Sam Buchanan)
36. 08:13 PM - Re: Run away rivet gun! (Charles L. Cotton)
37. 08:14 PM - Re: Van's Tail Wheel (Russell Duffy)
38. 08:38 PM - Re: Van's Tail Wheel (Jeff Point)
39. 08:59 PM - Re: Van's Tail Wheel (Larry Pardue)
40. 11:21 PM - Web site (Tom Gummo)
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Subject: | RV-8 Empennage for Sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Nolan" <jamespnolan@earthlink.net>
Listers,
I have an RV-8 Empennage for sale. Horizontal Stab is done,
Vertical Stab is started. $900.00 OBO. You have to come to Warsaw, In to
pick it up. I won't ship it.
Jim Nolan
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OBO. You
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Subject: | Altrak Altitude Hold |
--> RV-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
Guys:
I noticed on Vans website the altitude hold has the trim sensor option. What exactly
is this for and are most guys buying this option?
Sam Buchanan .... are you using the trim sensor?
Len Leggette, RV-8A
Greensboro, NC N910LL
152 hrs
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Subject: | Fwd: [RVBGOTT] Any RV's nearby |
--> RV-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
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Subject: [RVBGOTT] Any RV's nearby
Hello all,
Im a Flight Engineer in the Air Force on the C-5
Galaxy. I have been researching the Vans RV's for a
few months now and am seriously thinking about
starting a kit. I was wondering if anyone knows of
anyone nearby that has any RV's either finished or
being built that I could see and people to talk with
Im very new to all this. Thanks to all
Tim Piscitelli
Dover AFB Delaware
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Subject: | Re: Altrak Altitude Hold |
--> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
Lenleg@aol.com wrote:
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
>
> Guys:
>
> I noticed on Vans website the altitude hold has the trim sensor option. What
exactly is this for and are most guys buying this option?
>
> Sam Buchanan .... are you using the trim sensor?
>
> Len Leggette, RV-8A
> Greensboro, NC N910LL
> 152 hrs
>
No, I am using the standard version without the trim sensor. The
standard servo is completely acceptable in our planes. As I understand
the option, it would be desirable if the plane could get so out of trim
that the servo could not overpower the out of trim condition, and the
option would warn you that the condition existed. This is not a scenario
in an RV since elevator trim does not change a great deal during the
course of a cross country leg, and the elevator retains a lot of
authority even when slightly out of trim.
As has been stated by the DigiTrak rep, the trim option would be good if
you anticipate upgrading later to one of the advanced DigiTrak systems.
Sam Buchanan
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Subject: | Re: RV Customer Number at Van's |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Charles Rowbotham" <crowbotham@hotmail.com>
I would.
Chuck Rowbotham
RV-8A
>From: "Lyle Peterson" <lyleap@access4less.net>
>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RV-List: RV Customer Number at Van's
>Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:34:15 -0500
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Lyle Peterson" <lyleap@access4less.net>
>
>Hi,
>
>I know that each kit and set of plans has a Van's Customer Number and/or
>a serial number.
>
>Should these be checked with Van's prior to purchasing a previously
>owned kit?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Lyle
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Altrak Altitude Hold |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Charles Rowbotham" <crowbotham@hotmail.com>
We went without the trim sensor - works great. If you plan to upgrade in the
future or think you might TruTrak's policy is should allow to trade in old
unit for the new and only pay the difference.
Great product !! Highly recommend both digitrak and alttrak.
Chuck & Dave Rowbotham
RV-8A
>From: Lenleg@aol.com
>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV-List: Altrak Altitude Hold
>Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 09:32:12 -0400
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
>
>Guys:
>
>I noticed on Vans website the altitude hold has the trim sensor option.
>What exactly is this for and are most guys buying this option?
>
>Sam Buchanan .... are you using the trim sensor?
>
>Len Leggette, RV-8A
>Greensboro, NC N910LL
>152 hrs
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Fwd: [RVBGOTT] Any RV's nearby |
--> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
Welcome aboard Tim! You're gonna Love the RV. I'm at the other end of the
continent (Ca.) so I can't offer much assistance, however I'm confident one
of our comrades will answer up. You'll find the main problem at this point
for you, will be deciding "which" RV to start with. Now considering what
you're flyin' currently, it would be an easy transition into the RV-10.
It's got a similar VNE as the C-5, just a little less room. :} Or you
could swing the other way and go for the Solo Pocket Rocket, the RV-3.
I've been blessed/gotten to fly most all of the RV's, except the RV-9 & 10,
but the RV-4 is (and probably always will be) my favorite. It just seems
to me more like a small Fighter Plane than the rest (with of course the
exceptional Harmon/F-1 Rockets.... but I can't afford to keep one of those
thorough breds stabled and their owners rarely let me fly them).
Anyway, Glad to see another Pigeon, er... ah... Pilot catch the RV Fever.
I'm sure this will be a very rewarding and very costly (you have heard about
the $50-k "Free Test Ride" haven't you?) experience for you. Take care and
Good Air!
Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: <Lenleg@aol.com>
> Hello all,
> Im a Flight Engineer in the Air Force on the C-5
> Galaxy. I have been researching the Vans RV's for a
> few months now and am seriously thinking about
> starting a kit. I was wondering if anyone knows of
> anyone nearby that has any RV's either finished or
> being built that I could see and people to talk with
> Im very new to all this. Thanks to all
> Tim Piscitelli
> Dover AFB Delaware
DO NOT ARCHIVE , Thanks again Matt !!!!
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Subject: | Re: Fwd: [RVBGOTT] Any RV's nearby |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
This will help with finding a finished RV.
http://www.rvproject.com/rvfinder.jsp
At 08:14 AM 10/7/03 -0500, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
>
>Welcome aboard Tim! You're gonna Love the RV. I'm at the other end of the
>continent (Ca.) so I can't offer much assistance, however I'm confident one
>of our comrades will answer up. You'll find the main problem at this point
>for you, will be deciding "which" RV to start with. Now considering what
>you're flyin' currently, it would be an easy transition into the RV-10.
>It's got a similar VNE as the C-5, just a little less room. :} Or you
>could swing the other way and go for the Solo Pocket Rocket, the RV-3.
>I've been blessed/gotten to fly most all of the RV's, except the RV-9 & 10,
>but the RV-4 is (and probably always will be) my favorite. It just seems
>to me more like a small Fighter Plane than the rest (with of course the
>exceptional Harmon/F-1 Rockets.... but I can't afford to keep one of those
>thorough breds stabled and their owners rarely let me fly them).
>
>Anyway, Glad to see another Pigeon, er... ah... Pilot catch the RV Fever.
>I'm sure this will be a very rewarding and very costly (you have heard about
>the $50-k "Free Test Ride" haven't you?) experience for you. Take care and
>Good Air!
>
> Chuck
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <Lenleg@aol.com>
>> Hello all,
>> Im a Flight Engineer in the Air Force on the C-5
>> Galaxy. I have been researching the Vans RV's for a
>> few months now and am seriously thinking about
>> starting a kit. I was wondering if anyone knows of
>> anyone nearby that has any RV's either finished or
>> being built that I could see and people to talk with
>> Im very new to all this. Thanks to all
>> Tim Piscitelli
>> Dover AFB Delaware
>
>DO NOT ARCHIVE , Thanks again Matt !!!!
>
>
Scott Bilinski
Eng dept 305
Phone (858) 657-2536
Pager (858) 502-5190
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Subject: | Re: Fwd: [RVBGOTT] Any RV's nearby |
--> RV-List message posted by: Mark Phillips <ripsteel@edge.net>
Gee, Tim- how would you get it home from Oregon? 8-)
I'm a long way from Dover, but you're in the right place asking the right questions-
you can't do better
than an RV! (but I "may" be a little biased!)
Best wishes-
Mark Phillips, RV-6A 90% done in Columbia TN - do not archive -
>
> Hello all,
> Im a Flight Engineer in the Air Force on the C-5
> Galaxy. I have been researching the Vans RV's for a
> few months now and am seriously thinking about
> starting a kit. I was wondering if anyone knows of
> anyone nearby that has any RV's either finished or
> being built that I could see and people to talk with
> Im very new to all this. Thanks to all
> Tim Piscitelli
> Dover AFB Delaware
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--> RV-List message posted by: Martin Sobel <rv8vator@earthlink.net>
Help:
We may be building a new home.
I need to know how wide a door do I need to get an -8 fuselage with gear out
of the basement.
Martin Sobel
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Subject: | ? is the main Def. on the vr-7 & vr-9 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Hassel" <bob@hassel-usa.com>
If you like hanging upside down the 7 may be a better ship for you. If you
plan on doing cross country go with the 9.
Best bet is figure out what your skills are like now and what your mission
or reason for flying is.
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of carlos noto
Subject: RV-List: ? is the main Def. on the vr-7 & vr-9
--> RV-List message posted by: "carlos noto" <notomoto1@juno.com>
Hello everyone! I'm new on the list. I'm planning on building an RV. I'm
looking in to the RV-9 & and the RV-7, and I will like to know that are the
main differences between them. I know that the RV-9 has 1 feet of extra wind
on each side, but that is about it. I like the RV-9 because it has a slower
lading speed, but I like the RV-7 because it has a higher top speed :) I
know the undecided world of aviation. For those of you that know more about
the RV's, can you put a 200 hp on an RV-9, or you I want to go really fast
I'll have to stick with the RV-7? can the wing on the RV-7 be extended 1
feet for better lading speed?
thanks everyone for your help.
carlos noto
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--> RV-List message posted by: Dan Checkoway <dan@rvproject.com>
I've decided that I don't like flying or building anymore so I'm done with
this project.
YEAH, RIGHT.
I just updated the current status on the site's home page -- got a lot
of "concerned" emails. 8-)
I'm on this stupid-a$$ cruise with my wife and her family, currently a few
hundred nm from Fanning Island. Man, the cruising life is NOT for me,
especially when I have a freakin' RV-7 just waiting for me in the garage.
I'll be back on Sunday night, sea gods willing.
do not archive
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
Quoting Patrick Kelley <webmaster@flion.com>:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Patrick Kelley" <webmaster@flion.com>
>
>
> Has something happened to Dan Checkoway, or is he simply immersed in
> moving his project to the hangar? His site is not updated for many days
> now and I haven't seen him posting on the 'List. Dan, if you're
> listening, I've been taking notes on your firewall forward work. don't
> stop now!
>
>
> Patrick Kelley - RV-6A - skinning the fuselage.
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Subject: | Re: Flap leading edge protection |
--> RV-List message posted by: Richard Dudley <rhdudley@att.net>
Thanks for the comments on flap leading edge protection. There seems to
be a variety of experiences and preferences on what works.
Regards,
Richard Dudley
Richard Dudley wrote:
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Richard Dudley <rhdudley@att.net>
>
> Listers,
>
> The leading edge of the flap on the RV-6/A (and probably all other RV's)
> is tight against the underside of the top skin of the wing. It drags on
> that top skin as the flaps are lowered.
>
> I have seen flap leading edges covered by a metal foil and by a white
> polymer that Van sells as UHMW tape as a replacement for the metal foil.
>
> My question is: has anyone tried applying the UMHW tape to the underside
> of the wing skin rather than to the flap? What were the results? Does it
> protect the paint on the flap?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Dudley
> -6A final details
>
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Subject: | Re: How Wide a Door |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net>
Hi Martin,
Well,...?
If you have had the right and proper presence of mind to build right next to
a runway then the door width should be about a minimum of thirty feet. Of
course a nice bi-fold door for that would seem appropriate.[8-)!
Failing the above an eight foot door should just be enough ( about 3" to 4"
clearance) to get the fuselage straight out with it's wheel pants installed,
out into the world and on the road to the runway that you wish you lived
next to.{;-]!
I am basing the door width suggestion on my 6A wheel stance as built in my
in-house garage.
If there is a difference in the 8 gear stance width I'm sure someone will be
more than happy to offer a more accurate measurement.(g-)!
Happy building of both,
Jim in Kelowna........ P.S. Finish the garage part of the house first dude!!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin Sobel" <rv8vator@earthlink.net>
Subject: RV-List: How Wide a Door
> --> RV-List message posted by: Martin Sobel <rv8vator@earthlink.net>
>
> Help:
>
> We may be building a new home.
>
> I need to know how wide a door do I need to get an -8 fuselage with gear
out
> of the basement.
>
> Martin Sobel
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry2DT@aol.com
Folks...
Is anyone on the list using the Grand Rapids EFIS/Engine Monitor yet? Any and
all input/opinions are appreciated. This thing looks like a good unit.
Jerry Cochran
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<BR>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "David.vonLinsowe" <David.vonLinsowe@delphi.com>
Hi Jerry,
I'm really curious of what the new fin and rudder did to your CG? I have an older
style 7 rudder I was going to mount on my 6 with a new fin. The guys in the
Van's booth didn't foresee any improvement and were concerned about the extra
3 lbs it would add to the tail.
Thanks,
Dave
Snip>
Actually the fairing fit better than I thought it would. I well have to modify
where it lays against the vertical stab a little to get a better fit, but for testing
I have just taped it for now. I well have to fly some more to get a better idea
of
performance because I took the wheel pants off to work on them during this same
time.
I do have a copy of the parts list maybe I well try to post it to a web site.
I really can't say about price because Van did give me reduced price on parts.
I was only at the fly-in for 2-3 hours on Sat., sorry did not get to say hello.
Jerry
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Subject: | Re: How Wide a Door |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jack Blomgren" <jackanet@hotmail.com>
Martin,
Mine measures 80" over wheel hub nuts with no engine weight gear spread.
However, you can do with less width opening if you have enough room to swing
the fuselage considerably away from straight on, sliding the tires sideways
as you work your way one wheel at a time through the opening.
Best Regards,
Jack, -8
>From: Martin Sobel <rv8vator@earthlink.net>
>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>To: RV-List Digest Server <rv-list-digest@matronics.com>
>Subject: RV-List: How Wide a Door
>Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 12:52:30 -0400
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: Martin Sobel <rv8vator@earthlink.net>
>
>Help:
>
>We may be building a new home.
>
>I need to know how wide a door do I need to get an -8 fuselage with gear
>out
>of the basement.
>
>Martin Sobel
>
>
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Subject: | Re: How Wide a Door |
--> RV-List message posted by: <klwerner@comcast.net>
Dear Martin,
In addition to Jim's comments below, I' like to add the following:
If you plan to roll the fuselage through the door(opening) with the
Empennage attached, then you need more than 8 feet wide.
At least that is the fact for my -6A with ~8'-4" width on the
Empennage. If you plan to attach the Empennage at the Airport than a
std. 8' Wide x 7' High would be sufficient. But better to big an
opening than to small, space permitting?
Good Luck with your quest. Do not archive
Konrad
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Jewell
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: How Wide a Door
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net>
Hi Martin,
Well,...?
If you have had the right and proper presence of mind to build right
next to
a runway then the door width should be about a minimum of thirty feet.
Of
course a nice bi-fold door for that would seem appropriate.[8-)!
Failing the above an eight foot door should just be enough ( about 3"
to 4"
clearance) to get the fuselage straight out with it's wheel pants
installed,
out into the world and on the road to the runway that you wish you
lived
next to.{;-]!
I am basing the door width suggestion on my 6A wheel stance as built
in my
in-house garage.
If there is a difference in the 8 gear stance width I'm sure someone
will be
more than happy to offer a more accurate measurement.(g-)!
Happy building of both,
Jim in Kelowna........ P.S. Finish the garage part of the house first
dude!!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin Sobel" <rv8vator@earthlink.net>
To: "RV-List Digest Server" <rv-list-digest@matronics.com>
Subject: RV-List: How Wide a Door
> --> RV-List message posted by: Martin Sobel <rv8vator@earthlink.net>
>
> Help:
>
> We may be building a new home.
>
> I need to know how wide a door do I need to get an -8 fuselage with
gear
out
> of the basement.
>
> Martin Sobel
>
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<DIV><FONT faceArial color#000080>If you plan to roll the fuselage
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<DIV><FONT faceArial color#000080>At least that is the fact for my
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<DIV><BR></DIV>--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" <<A
href"mailto:jjewell@telus.net">jjewell@telus.net</A>><BR><BR>Hi
Martin,<BR><BR>Well,...?<BR><BR>If you have had the right and proper
presence
of mind to build right next to<BR>a runway then the door width should
be about
a minimum of thirty feet. Of<BR>course a nice bi-fold door for that
would seem
appropriate.[8-)!<BR><BR>Failing the above an eight foot door should
just be
enough ( about 3" to 4"<BR>clearance) to get the fuselage straight out
with
it's wheel pants installed,<BR>out into the world and on the road to
the
runway that you wish you lived<BR>next to.{;-]!<BR><BR>I am basing the
door
width suggestion on my 6A wheel stance as built in my<BR>in-house
garage.<BR>If there is a difference in the 8 gear stance width I'm
sure
someone will be<BR>more than happy to offer a more accurate
measurement.(g-)!<BR><BR>Happy building of both,<BR><BR>Jim in
Kelowna........
P.S. Finish the garage part of the house first dude!!<BR><BR>-----
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need to
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gear<BR>out<BR>>
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Subject: | Re: Fwd: [RVBGOTT] Any RV's nearby |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Harvey Sigmon" <rv6hes@comcast.net>
Tim: I am situated at Dover, DE. I have a RV-6A At Delaware Airpark (33N)
This is my second RV-6, would be glad to give you the tour and even a
flight. The only problem is it will cost you about $50,000 after you get
the ride, because you will have to have one. My phone number is
302-697-1663.
Harvey Sigmon RV-6A N602RV Flying Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Phillips" <ripsteel@edge.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Fwd: [RVBGOTT] Any RV's nearby
> --> RV-List message posted by: Mark Phillips <ripsteel@edge.net>
>
> Gee, Tim- how would you get it home from Oregon? 8-)
>
> I'm a long way from Dover, but you're in the right place asking the right
questions- you can't do better
> than an RV! (but I "may" be a little biased!)
>
> Best wishes-
> Mark Phillips, RV-6A 90% done in Columbia TN - do not archive -
>
> >
> > Hello all,
> > Im a Flight Engineer in the Air Force on the C-5
> > Galaxy. I have been researching the Vans RV's for a
> > few months now and am seriously thinking about
> > starting a kit. I was wondering if anyone knows of
> > anyone nearby that has any RV's either finished or
> > being built that I could see and people to talk with
> > Im very new to all this. Thanks to all
> > Tim Piscitelli
> > Dover AFB Delaware
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Fwd: [RVBGOTT] Any RV's nearby |
--> RV-List message posted by: Louis Willig <larywil@comcast.net>
At 09:49 AM 10/7/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>Hello all,
>Im a Flight Engineer in the Air Force on the C-5
>Galaxy. I have been researching the Vans RV's for a
>few months now and am seriously thinking about
>starting a kit. I was wondering if anyone knows of
>anyone nearby that has any RV's either finished or
>being built that I could see and people to talk with
>Im very new to all this. Thanks to all
>Tim Piscitelli
>Dover AFB Delaware
Tim,
I have an RV-4 in Philadelphia (PNE) and there are several RV-4's and 6's
in New Jersey. I can give you a ride in my -4 if you give me a ride in
your -5.
Or a -14, 15, 16, 17. ( forget the 17 - it looks weird.) Contact me off the
list or by phone. I'm sure we can spend a day looking at each other's ride.
-
Louis I Willig
1640 Oakwood Dr.
Penn Valley, PA 19072
610 668-4964
RV-4, N180PF
190HP IO-360, C/S prop
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Subject: | Re: How Wide a Door |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Curt Hoffman" <choffman9@cinci.rr.com>
My current house and my previous house I had double wide French doors
installed in the basement. They will take any fuselage and I can even drive
a small car into the basement. I figure - why scrimp. The hole costs the
same and doors don't cost that much.
Curt Hoffman
RV-9A wings done for now- working on tail
Quick build fuselage now in basement
Piper Cherokee N5320W
1974 TR6
----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin Sobel" <rv8vator@earthlink.net>
Subject: RV-List: How Wide a Door
> --> RV-List message posted by: Martin Sobel <rv8vator@earthlink.net>
>
> Help:
>
> We may be building a new home.
>
> I need to know how wide a door do I need to get an -8 fuselage with gear
out
> of the basement.
>
> Martin Sobel
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Lyle Peterson" <lyleap@access4less.net>
Many thanks to those who responded to my questions about previously
owned kits and the Van's customer number.
I bought an empannage kit today. Everything went well.
The list is a wealth of information. Even when the topic isn't about
something I am, or might be doing shortly, it is very interesting.
Thanks to all again,
Lyle Peterson
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Subject: | Re: Fwd: [RVBGOTT] Any RV's nearby |
--> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
Way to go Harvey! I knew the folks on our list would not disappoint.
----- Original Message -----
From: Harvey Sigmon <rv6hes@comcast.net>
> Tim: I am situated at Dover, DE. I have a RV-6A At Delaware Airpark (33N)
> This is my second RV-6, would be glad to give you the tour and even a
> flight. The only problem is it will cost you about $50,000 after you get
> the ride, because you will have to have one. My phone number is
> 302-697-1663.
> Harvey Sigmon RV-6A N602RV Flying
Do not archive
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Subject: | Re: ? is the main Def. on the vr-7 & vr-9 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "David Taylor" <rv7@cox.net>
Carlos,
I'd have to say the main difference in my opinion is the aerobatic
capability. The RV-9 isn't considered aerobatic while the -7 is. The RV-7
has a stronger wing so even if you aren't planning on performing aerobatics
it should handle more G-forces in turbulent weather.
-David Taylor
Warner Robins, GA
RV-6A Empennage/Wings
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "carlos noto" <notomoto1@juno.com>
Subject: RV-List: ? is the main Def. on the vr-7 & vr-9
> --> RV-List message posted by: "carlos noto" <notomoto1@juno.com>
>
> Hello everyone! I'm new on the list. I'm planning on building an RV. I'm
> looking in to the RV-9 & and the RV-7, and I will like to know that are
the
> main differences between them. I know that the RV-9 has 1 feet of extra
wind
> on each side, but that is about it. I like the RV-9 because it has a
slower
> lading speed, but I like the RV-7 because it has a higher top speed :) I
> know the undecided world of aviation. For those of you that know more
about
> the RV's, can you put a 200 hp on an RV-9, or you I want to go really fast
> I'll have to stick with the RV-7? can the wing on the RV-7 be extended 1
> feet for better lading speed?
>
> thanks everyone for your help.
>
> carlos noto
>
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Subject: | Run away rivet gun! |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Charles L. Cotton" <charles@cottonfamily.com>
Help!! I'm building an RV-7A and am working on the empennage. The short
version of the story is this: while riveting the rudder counter-balance
rib to the spar, the spar slipped, the rivet gun came off the rivet and
struck the spar three times. Its hard to describe how the spar looks, but
I'll try. There is no crease in the spar and no hole, but there is a
slight bulge just above the point where the rib attaches to the spar. I
talked to Van's to see if I should replace the spar, but they obviously
can't really make that determination, since they can't see it.
Has anyone else done this and what did you do? Should any damage to a spar
be grounds to replace it? It really doesn't look like the spar is damaged,
so I've finished everything, except riveting the trailing edge. However,
this is still bothering me and I'm very tempted to drill out about a
thousand rivets and replace the spar. Is this over kill?
Thanks,
Chas.
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Subject: | EIS4000 engine monitor questions |
--> RV-List message posted by: "C J Heitman" <cjh@execpc.com>
I started my engine for the first time today. Started right up - no leaks -
but a few issues with my Grand Rapids EIS4000 engine monitor. I'll try to
talk to Greg at Grand Rapids tomorrow but I'm wondering if anyone else has
experienced any of the following:
Oil Pressure is reading about half of actual (I checked it with a mechanical
gauge). The VDO sender is labeled 10 bar (about 150psi). When the wire is
disconnected the EIS reads 80psi.
No oil temperature indication. Reads 59F all the time. The 2 wire thermistor
based sensor appears to be wired correctly but I haven't yet disconnected it
to measure the resistance.
I have a mag and a Lightspeed with a selector switch to feed either tach
signal to the EIS. I get no reading from the Lightspeed and the reading from
the mag appears low but I'm not sure if it's half of actual as I don't have
another way to measure rpm. I'm feeding the p-lead thru a resistor to the
EIS as shown in the instructions. I have the EIS configured for 2 pulses per
revolution. Is that correct? On the lightspeed side I just connected the
tach signal directly to the EIS. I didn't use a shielded wire. Perhaps that
is part of the problem.
If anyone can offer insight on any of these 3 problems I would be most
grateful.
Chris Heitman
Dousman WI
RV-9A N94ME (reserved)
http://my.execpc.com/~cjh/rv9a.html
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Subject: | Van's Tail Wheel |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Rich Crosley" <dirtrider@qnet.com>
I received my finish kit and my tail wheel. I noticed the the grease
fitting (zerk fitting) was not a one-way fitting. It looks like a standard
zerk fitting, but has a hole straight through, no spring loaded ball to keep
grease in. Van's guys told me that's the way they sell it. If that's the
case, and I guess it is, do you grease the tail wheel or just use the
fitting to oil the bearings or what?
Rich Crosley
RV-8
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Subject: | Run away rivet gun! |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Hassel" <bob@hassel-usa.com>
If you're unsure take a picture and send it to Van's to look at. Even if
you don't have a digital camera you can get cd's made of your pictures when
they are processed. This may be the safest thing if you're worried.
Do all of the skin, rib and spar rivet holes still line up? A slight bulge
may not be a big problem but like Van's without a pic everything is just a
guess that can best be answered by you.
Good luck!
Bob
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Charles L.
Cotton
Subject: RV-List: Run away rivet gun!
--> RV-List message posted by: "Charles L. Cotton"
<charles@cottonfamily.com>
Help!! I'm building an RV-7A and am working on the empennage. The short
version of the story is this: while riveting the rudder counter-balance
rib to the spar, the spar slipped, the rivet gun came off the rivet and
struck the spar three times. Its hard to describe how the spar looks, but
I'll try. There is no crease in the spar and no hole, but there is a
slight bulge just above the point where the rib attaches to the spar. I
talked to Van's to see if I should replace the spar, but they obviously
can't really make that determination, since they can't see it.
Has anyone else done this and what did you do? Should any damage to a spar
be grounds to replace it? It really doesn't look like the spar is damaged,
so I've finished everything, except riveting the trailing edge. However,
this is still bothering me and I'm very tempted to drill out about a
thousand rivets and replace the spar. Is this over kill?
Thanks,
Chas.
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Subject: | Van's Tail Wheel |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Russell Duffy" <13brv3@bellsouth.net>
I received my finish kit and my tail wheel. I noticed the the grease
fitting (zerk fitting) was not a one-way fitting. It looks like a standard
zerk fitting, but has a hole straight through, no spring loaded ball to keep
grease in. Van's guys told me that's the way they sell it. If that's the
case, and I guess it is, do you grease the tail wheel or just use the
fitting to oil the bearings or what?
Rich Crosley
RV-8
--------------------
Funny you should ask. A buddy just changed his RV-8 tailwheel, and noticed
that there was no ball in the zerk fitting. I don't know if there was one
in his old wheel, but the one I got from Van's about a year ago doesn't have
one, and neither does the ancient (22 years old) one that was in the
original RV-3 kit. I'd say don't worry about it.
Cheers,
Rusty
Navarre, FL
RV-8, 80587, N174KT (sold, and for sale again I see)
RV-3B, 10751, N751RV, flying with turbo Mazda 13B engine (zoom, zoom)
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Subject: | Re: EIS4000 engine monitor questions |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Perry" <eperry@san.rr.com>
Hi Chris,
Set your Tach input to "1"pulse. As far as the Oil temp and pressure you'll
have to ask Greg. He will sit on the phone with you until you fix it, great
service and a great guy, but you have to get past Sandy first.
Good Luck,
The EIS is great for what it is and when you get it all set up you will love
it.
Ed Perry
----- Original Message -----
From: "C J Heitman" <cjh@execpc.com>
Subject: RV-List: EIS4000 engine monitor questions
> --> RV-List message posted by: "C J Heitman" <cjh@execpc.com>
>
> I started my engine for the first time today. Started right up - no
leaks -
> but a few issues with my Grand Rapids EIS4000 engine monitor. I'll try to
> talk to Greg at Grand Rapids tomorrow but I'm wondering if anyone else has
> experienced any of the following:
>
> Oil Pressure is reading about half of actual (I checked it with a
mechanical
> gauge). The VDO sender is labeled 10 bar (about 150psi). When the wire is
> disconnected the EIS reads 80psi.
>
> No oil temperature indication. Reads 59F all the time. The 2 wire
thermistor
> based sensor appears to be wired correctly but I haven't yet disconnected
it
> to measure the resistance.
>
> I have a mag and a Lightspeed with a selector switch to feed either tach
> signal to the EIS. I get no reading from the Lightspeed and the reading
from
> the mag appears low but I'm not sure if it's half of actual as I don't
have
> another way to measure rpm. I'm feeding the p-lead thru a resistor to the
> EIS as shown in the instructions. I have the EIS configured for 2 pulses
per
> revolution. Is that correct? On the lightspeed side I just connected the
> tach signal directly to the EIS. I didn't use a shielded wire. Perhaps
that
> is part of the problem.
>
> If anyone can offer insight on any of these 3 problems I would be most
> grateful.
>
> Chris Heitman
> Dousman WI
> RV-9A N94ME (reserved)
> http://my.execpc.com/~cjh/rv9a.html
>
> ---
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: Larygagnon@aol.com
I downloaded the installation manual from Dynon's web site but I can't seem
to find the depth on the unit, just the size and depth of the display portion.
I want to see if it will fit in my panel with the space I have. Anyone out
there have one they could measure. Sure seems like a great addition to my
panel, I seem to be hearing positive comments from everyone who has one.
Larry Gagnon
RV6 N6LG 30 hours and counting
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Subject: | Re: Van's Tail Wheel |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Pardue" <n5lp@warpdriveonline.com>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Rich Crosley" <dirtrider@qnet.com>
>
> I received my finish kit and my tail wheel. I noticed the the grease
> fitting (zerk fitting) was not a one-way fitting. It looks like a
standard
> zerk fitting, but has a hole straight through, no spring loaded ball to
keep
> grease in. Van's guys told me that's the way they sell it. If that's the
> case, and I guess it is, do you grease the tail wheel or just use the
> fitting to oil the bearings or what?
>
The zerk doesn't work anyway. Take the thing apart to grease it. It needs
it fairly often.
Larry Pardue
Carlsbad, NM
RV-6 N441LP Flying
http://n5lp.net
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Subject: | Re: Run away rivet gun! |
--> RV-List message posted by: Steven Eberhart <newtech@newtech.com>
I replaced the spar in my vert. stab. When I was drilling out a rivet
that attached the v yoke stiffener I screwed up and nicked the spar and
stiffener. When I called Van's about it they said that there were two
reasons for replacing a part. 1) for structural reasons. 2) because
every time you look at it you are going to mutter under your breath
things like sh*t, etc. I replaced my vert. spar and stiffener. I am
now finishing up my left wing and starting on the right wing. Today I
wouldn't replace the parts. Would have dressed out the nick and
continued on. But, at the time I just couldn't see how I was ever going
to be content knowing that my stab had a problem.
Get a picture to Van's and follow their suggestions unless #2 above is
the predominate situation then replace the parts.
Steve Eberhart
RV-7A, left wing done starting right.
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Charles L. Cotton" <charles@cottonfamily.com>
>
> Help!! I'm building an RV-7A and am working on the empennage. The short
> version of the story is this: while riveting the rudder counter-balance
> rib to the spar, the spar slipped, the rivet gun came off the rivet and
> struck the spar three times. Its hard to describe how the spar looks, but
> I'll try. There is no crease in the spar and no hole, but there is a
> slight bulge just above the point where the rib attaches to the spar. I
> talked to Van's to see if I should replace the spar, but they obviously
> can't really make that determination, since they can't see it.
>
> Has anyone else done this and what did you do? Should any damage to a spar
> be grounds to replace it? It really doesn't look like the spar is damaged,
> so I've finished everything, except riveting the trailing edge. However,
> this is still bothering me and I'm very tempted to drill out about a
> thousand rivets and replace the spar. Is this over kill?
>
> Thanks,
> Chas.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Van's Tail Wheel |
--> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
Russell Duffy wrote:
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Russell Duffy" <13brv3@bellsouth.net>
>
> I received my finish kit and my tail wheel. I noticed the the grease
> fitting (zerk fitting) was not a one-way fitting. It looks like a standard
> zerk fitting, but has a hole straight through, no spring loaded ball to keep
> grease in. Van's guys told me that's the way they sell it. If that's the
> case, and I guess it is, do you grease the tail wheel or just use the
> fitting to oil the bearings or what?
>
> Rich Crosley
> RV-8
> --------------------
>
> Funny you should ask. A buddy just changed his RV-8 tailwheel, and noticed
> that there was no ball in the zerk fitting. I don't know if there was one
> in his old wheel, but the one I got from Van's about a year ago doesn't have
> one, and neither does the ancient (22 years old) one that was in the
> original RV-3 kit. I'd say don't worry about it.
>
I seems it is a moot point since the bearings in the tailwheel are
sealed. If you shoot grease into the wheel, all you will accomplish is
slingin' grease out the wheel after a few takeoffs/landings. The
bearings won't see any of the grease.
Fortunately the bearings are easily replaced and can be purchased at
your local bearing emporium.
Sam Buchanan (RV-6)
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--> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
Larygagnon@aol.com wrote:
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Larygagnon@aol.com
>
> I downloaded the installation manual from Dynon's web site but I can't seem
> to find the depth on the unit, just the size and depth of the display portion.
> I want to see if it will fit in my panel with the space I have. Anyone out
> there have one they could measure. Sure seems like a great addition to my
> panel, I seem to be hearing positive comments from everyone who has one.
>
> Larry Gagnon
> RV6 N6LG 30 hours and counting
Larry, hit this link:
http://www.dynondevelopment.com/docs/efis-d10specs.html
Sam Buchanan
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Subject: | Re: Run away rivet gun! |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Charles L. Cotton" <charles@cottonfamily.com>
Never mind; I couldn't stand it and took the rudder apart. I'll order a
replacement spar tomorrow. I've had to drill a rivet here and there, but
this was the first major component I've had to disassemble and it really
sucks! Oh well, this is a learning process.
Chas.
At 07:00 PM 10/7/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Charles L. Cotton" <charles@cottonfamily.com>
>
>Help!! I'm building an RV-7A and am working on the empennage. The short
>version of the story is this: while riveting the rudder counter-balance
>rib to the spar, the spar slipped, the rivet gun came off the rivet and
>struck the spar three times. Its hard to describe how the spar looks, but
>I'll try. There is no crease in the spar and no hole, but there is a
>slight bulge just above the point where the rib attaches to the spar. I
>talked to Van's to see if I should replace the spar, but they obviously
>can't really make that determination, since they can't see it.
>
>Has anyone else done this and what did you do? Should any damage to a spar
>be grounds to replace it? It really doesn't look like the spar is damaged,
>so I've finished everything, except riveting the trailing edge. However,
>this is still bothering me and I'm very tempted to drill out about a
>thousand rivets and replace the spar. Is this over kill?
>
>Thanks,
>Chas.
>
>
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Subject: | Van's Tail Wheel |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Russell Duffy" <13brv3@bellsouth.net>
The zerk doesn't work anyway. Take the thing apart to grease it. It needs
it fairly often.
Larry Pardue
Carlsbad, NM
------------
Are you talking about the tailwheel, or the swivel for the tailwheel?
Rusty
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Subject: | Re: Van's Tail Wheel |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
The latest RVator has a plans revision for this very area. I don't have
it handy, but I believe it was to remove the zerk fitting and lube the
area with WD40 or such periodically. Anyone with the RVator handy can
look this up?
Jeff Point
RV-6 wiring
Milwaukee WI
Rich Crosley wrote:
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Subject: | Re: Van's Tail Wheel |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Pardue" <n5lp@warpdriveonline.com>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Pardue" <n5lp@warpdriveonline.com>
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Rich Crosley" <dirtrider@qnet.com>
> >
> > I received my finish kit and my tail wheel. I noticed the the grease
> > fitting (zerk fitting) was not a one-way fitting. It looks like a
> standard
> > zerk fitting, but has a hole straight through, no spring loaded ball to
> keep
> > grease in. Van's guys told me that's the way they sell it. If that's
the
> > case, and I guess it is, do you grease the tail wheel or just use the
> > fitting to oil the bearings or what?
> >
>
> The zerk doesn't work anyway. Take the thing apart to grease it. It
needs
> it fairly often.
>
Oops. Didn't read closely enough. Question was about the wheel and answer
was about the assembly.
Larry Pardue
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Tom Gummo" <T.gummo@verizon.net>
Guys,
I finally put together a web site. It has a Rocket page.
It is NOTHING SPECIAL. IT IS AIMED AT NON RV TYPES.
There are just a couple of pictures of my plane:
One flying
Two on the ground
One of the cockpit
One of the wing storage lockers
I am a pilot not a builder. :-)
http://mysite.verizon.net/t.gummo/index.html
Anyway, take a look.
Tom Gummo
Apple Valley, CA
BTW, there are some great pictures of F-4s too.
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