RV-List Digest Archive

Wed 10/08/03


Total Messages Posted: 37



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 04:43 AM - Re: Mixture Cable/Attachment... (RV6AOKC@aol.com)
     2. 05:54 AM - Fuel tank seeps (Matt Jurotich)
     3. 07:09 AM - Re: GRT EFIS (James E. Clark)
     4. 07:22 AM - Re: Fuel tank seeps (C. Rabaut)
     5. 07:43 AM - Re: Fuel tank seeps (aronsond)
     6. 08:21 AM - EIS4000 engine monitor questions (Jim.Truitt@usdoj.gov)
     7. 08:25 AM - Re: Fuel tank seeps (Evan and Megan Johnson)
     8. 08:26 AM - Re: Fw: [RVBGOTT] Any RV's nearby (Charles Rowbotham)
     9. 08:37 AM - Re: Dynon Depth (Mike Robertson)
    10. 08:47 AM - Re: G meter and turn coordinator(long) (Ken Simmons)
    11. 09:42 AM - RV-8 Accident in N TX (RV_8 Pilot)
    12. 10:13 AM - Why are so many RV's registered in Delaware ???  (P M Condon)
    13. 10:27 AM - Van's Tail Wheel (P M Condon)
    14. 11:32 AM - Re: RV-8 Accident in N TX (Kirsten Lacy)
    15. 11:32 AM - Re: RV-8 Accident in N TX (Scott Bilinski)
    16. 11:35 AM - Re: Why are so many RV's registered in Delaware ???  (Scott Bilinski)
    17. 11:37 AM - Re: Why are so many RV's registered in Delaware ???  (Tedd McHenry)
    18. 11:42 AM - Re: Why are so many RV's registered in Delaware ??? (Chris W)
    19. 11:45 AM - Re: RV-8 Accident in N TX (Rob Prior)
    20. 12:41 PM - gaskets needed for my O-320 (Ron Patterson)
    21. 01:17 PM - RV STUFF FOR SALE (Scott Brown)
    22. 01:28 PM - Re: GRT EFIS (David.vonLinsowe)
    23. 01:55 PM - Re: Why are so many RV's registered in Delaware ???  (John Helms)
    24. 03:01 PM - Dynon G feature (Larry Bowen)
    25. 03:12 PM - Re: Why are so many RV's registered in Delaware ???  (Larry Bowen)
    26. 03:34 PM - Re: gaskets needed for my O-320 (RV_8 Pilot)
    27. 05:42 PM - Re: gaskets needed for my O-320 (Charlie & Tupper England)
    28. 06:02 PM - Maximizing Range (John)
    29. 07:12 PM - A&P (Wheeler North)
    30. 07:12 PM - Re: Mixture Cable/Attachment... (Jerry Calvert)
    31. 07:21 PM - Re: RV-8 Accident in N TX (Jerry Calvert)
    32. 07:25 PM - Dynon mag update (Sam Buchanan)
    33. 07:26 PM - [Fw: [VAF Mailing List] Woodard Service Arrangements] (Sam Buchanan)
    34. 08:03 PM - Re: Maximizing Range (Stein Bruch)
    35. 09:33 PM - Re: RV-8 Accident in N TX (Kirsten Lacy)
    36. 09:33 PM - Re: Dynon mag update (Larry Bowen)
    37. 09:47 PM - Tip Up canopy (Darwin N. Barrie)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:43:32 AM PST US
    From: RV6AOKC@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Mixture Cable/Attachment...
    --> RV-List message posted by: RV6AOKC@aol.com Thanks Jerry!!! I would love to steal a piece of this material from you.....but I would like to trade....I'll give you ...say....a elec. cable crimping tool....thats it....oh..wait....I guess that is yours too...!!!! =) Is the "Hussy" out at the airport yet??? Im done with my forward part of the canopy...all that is left is the cowl, baffel, FAB, and some misc stuff...getting close I hope.....building time is limited again as Im back at work in Houston, working the second job at the Air Force and we are expecting #2 on Nov 11th or so.... Drop me an update when you can.....


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    Time: 05:54:41 AM PST US
    From: Matt Jurotich <mjurotich@hst.nasa.gov>
    Subject: Fuel tank seeps
    --> RV-List message posted by: Matt Jurotich <mjurotich@hst.nasa.gov> Folks I have a 6A that I purchased from its builder. Both fuel tanks have seeps around 6 to 8 rivets, really slow seeps but the paint is bubbling up where the seeps occur. Any suggestions to cure? Thanks Matthew M. Jurotich NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center Swales contractor to the JWST ISIM Systems Engineer m/c : 443 e-mail mail to: <mjurotich@hst.nasa.gov> phone : 301-286-5919 fax : 301-286-1736 JWST URL: <http://ngst1.gsfc.nasa.gov


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    Time: 07:09:35 AM PST US
    From: "James E. Clark" <james@nextupventures.com>
    Subject: GRT EFIS
    --> RV-List message posted by: "James E. Clark" <james@nextupventures.com> Jerry, Their target ship date has been October 15th for some time now. I spoke with Greg yesterday and they seem to be very close to making that date or at least in October. It has been test flown in their "demo plane" (see article on their website) and I saw it installed in the Trutrak "demo" plane (at OSH ... was probably pre-production prototype). Thus, I would not expect there to be any "pireps" at this time. Maybe there IS someone out there that HAS flown it, but for now I think it too soon to expect same. I could be wrong. James > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jerry2DT@aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 3:57 PM > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV-List: GRT EFIS > > > --> RV-List message posted by: Jerry2DT@aol.com > > > Folks... > > Is anyone on the list using the Grand Rapids EFIS/Engine Monitor > yet? Any and > all input/opinions are appreciated. This thing looks like a good unit. > > Jerry Cochran > > > <HTML><FONT FACEarial,helvetica><FONT COLOR"#0000ff" SIZE2 FAMILY= > "SCRIPT" FACE"Comic Sans MS" LANG"0">Folks...<BR> > <BR> > Is anyone on the list using the Grand Rapids EFIS/Engine Monitor > yet? Any an= > d all input/opinions are appreciated. This thing looks like a > good unit. <BR= > > > <BR> > Jerry Cochran</FONT></HTML> > >


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    Time: 07:22:42 AM PST US
    From: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
    Subject: Re: Fuel tank seeps
    --> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com> Matthew, Check the archives on this problem (a lot of GOOD stuff; scroll to the page bottom and click on archives). Basically scrape away the paint, apply a drop of special adhesive (I forget the name), let it soak in, then apply a drop of harder and your done. I used a two part adhesive on one rivet that went south a few years ago and haven't had any problem with it since. Chuck do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Matt Jurotich <mjurotich@hst.nasa.gov> Subject: RV-List: Fuel tank seeps > --> RV-List message posted by: Matt Jurotich <mjurotich@hst.nasa.gov> > > Folks > > I have a 6A that I purchased from its builder. Both fuel tanks have seeps > around 6 to 8 rivets, really slow seeps but the paint is bubbling up where > the seeps occur. Any suggestions to cure? > > Thanks > > Matthew M. Jurotich > > NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center > Swales contractor to the > JWST ISIM Systems Engineer > > m/c : 443 > e-mail mail to: <mjurotich@hst.nasa.gov> > phone : 301-286-5919 > fax : 301-286-1736 > > > JWST URL: <http://ngst1.gsfc.nasa.gov > >


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    Time: 07:43:00 AM PST US
    From: "aronsond" <aronsond@pacbell.net>
    Subject: Re: Fuel tank seeps
    --> RV-List message posted by: "aronsond" <aronsond@pacbell.net> Cut holes in the rear baffle, seal from inside, make covers to go over holes, seal and poprivet. Sorry Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Jurotich" <mjurotich@hst.nasa.gov> Subject: RV-List: Fuel tank seeps > --> RV-List message posted by: Matt Jurotich <mjurotich@hst.nasa.gov> > > Folks > > I have a 6A that I purchased from its builder. Both fuel tanks have seeps > around 6 to 8 rivets, really slow seeps but the paint is bubbling up where > the seeps occur. Any suggestions to cure? > > Thanks > > Matthew M. Jurotich > > NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center > Swales contractor to the > JWST ISIM Systems Engineer > > m/c : 443 > e-mail mail to: <mjurotich@hst.nasa.gov> > phone : 301-286-5919 > fax : 301-286-1736 > > > JWST URL: <http://ngst1.gsfc.nasa.gov > >


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    Time: 08:21:56 AM PST US
    From: "Jim.Truitt@usdoj.gov" <Jim.Truitt@usdoj.gov>
    Subject: EIS4000 engine monitor questions
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim.Truitt@usdoj.gov" <Jim.Truitt@usdoj.gov> I don't know much, but I can tell you that you must be sure you have the correct oil pressure sender to get the correct reading. The oil temp reads 59 because I believe that's as low as the EIS goes. So I assume your oil temp is below 59 or you're not getting a signal. I just started flying my 8A and I have the EIS 4000. I have two mags, but I wanted (and need of course) a tach reading from each side when you do the mag check. John Crabtree (a fine aircraft builder) came up with a circuit to switch the RPM reading from one side to another when you switch one side off on the mag check. John ran the diagram past Greg Tolman and he thought it was good. (It is). If I remember correctly, Greg had already conceived the circuit idea that John came up with, so Greg should be familiar with it. If he can't help you I can help you through John. I'm electrically challenged myself. Sometimes I'm not sure the circuits in my head are firing correctly.


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    Time: 08:25:00 AM PST US
    From: "Evan and Megan Johnson" <evmeg@snowcrest.net>
    Subject: Re: Fuel tank seeps
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Evan and Megan Johnson" <evmeg@snowcrest.net> NASA!?....I'll fix them for you if you get me a ride in the shuttle :) I have to say that sounds like a lot of leaking rivets. I have never had to do more that 2 or 3 rivets so you are in for a challenge.Your builder probably didnt use enough sealant on the ribs....or maybe put it together dry then tried to seal over the outside of the ribs. You may be chasing this for a long time....I would not repaint until you know that you have caught them all. That said, you can reseal leaking rivets by sucking sealant into the voids around the rivets. I use a mighty vac hand vacuum pump that I got at a local car parts shop. Plug up all of the hardware going into the tank, put several layers of package tape over the fuel cap and then pump out the air to around 10 pounds of negative pressure. The skins will be bowing in around the ribs. Now you drip sealant onto each rivet that is leaking and let it suck into the void....before it starts sucking air again let the pressure off and wait for it to harden up. The sealant you use is the regular stuff from Vans.....just mix up a small amout per the instructions and then thin it down with an equal amount of MEK. DO NOT under any circumstances let anybody talk you into sloshing your tanks. I hope this helps. If I have not given you enough information or if you decide to just build new tanks you can call me @ (530)247-0375. Feel free to call or email, I am happy to help if I can. Evan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Jurotich" <mjurotich@hst.nasa.gov> Subject: RV-List: Fuel tank seeps > --> RV-List message posted by: Matt Jurotich <mjurotich@hst.nasa.gov> > > Folks > > I have a 6A that I purchased from its builder. Both fuel tanks have seeps > around 6 to 8 rivets, really slow seeps but the paint is bubbling up where > the seeps occur. Any suggestions to cure? > > Thanks > > Matthew M. Jurotich > > NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center > Swales contractor to the > JWST ISIM Systems Engineer > > m/c : 443 > e-mail mail to: <mjurotich@hst.nasa.gov> > phone : 301-286-5919 > fax : 301-286-1736 > > > JWST URL: <http://ngst1.gsfc.nasa.gov > >


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    Time: 08:26:05 AM PST US
    From: "Charles Rowbotham" <crowbotham@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Fwd: [RVBGOTT] Any RV's nearby
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Charles Rowbotham" <crowbotham@hotmail.com> Tim, If you get up to Westover, MA there are a number of us in the area. Chuck & Dave Rowbotham RV-8A >From: Louis Willig <larywil@comcast.net> >Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com >To: rv-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: RV-List: Fwd: [RVBGOTT] Any RV's nearby >Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 18:19:03 -0400 > >--> RV-List message posted by: Louis Willig <larywil@comcast.net> > >At 09:49 AM 10/7/2003 -0400, you wrote: > > >Hello all, > >Im a Flight Engineer in the Air Force on the C-5 > >Galaxy. I have been researching the Vans RV's for a > >few months now and am seriously thinking about > >starting a kit. I was wondering if anyone knows of > >anyone nearby that has any RV's either finished or > >being built that I could see and people to talk with > >Im very new to all this. Thanks to all > >Tim Piscitelli > >Dover AFB Delaware > > >Tim, >I have an RV-4 in Philadelphia (PNE) and there are several RV-4's and 6's >in New Jersey. I can give you a ride in my -4 if you give me a ride in >your -5. >Or a -14, 15, 16, 17. ( forget the 17 - it looks weird.) Contact me off the >list or by phone. I'm sure we can spend a day looking at each other's ride. > > >- >Louis I Willig >1640 Oakwood Dr. >Penn Valley, PA 19072 >610 668-4964 >RV-4, N180PF >190HP IO-360, C/S prop > >


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    Time: 08:37:42 AM PST US
    From: "Mike Robertson" <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Dynon Depth
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Robertson" <mrobert569@hotmail.com> In addition to the 7.6 inches listed add the pitot/static/AOA nipples and computer style plug to the length. All told it comes to about 10 inches. Mike Robertson >From: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net> >Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com >To: rv-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: RV-List: Dynon Depth >Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 22:12:16 -0500 > >--> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net> > > >Larygagnon@aol.com wrote: > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: Larygagnon@aol.com > > > > I downloaded the installation manual from Dynon's web site but I can't >seem > > to find the depth on the unit, just the size and depth of the display >portion. > > I want to see if it will fit in my panel with the space I have. Anyone >out > > there have one they could measure. Sure seems like a great addition to >my > > panel, I seem to be hearing positive comments from everyone who has one. > > > > Larry Gagnon > > RV6 N6LG 30 hours and counting > > >Larry, hit this link: > >http://www.dynondevelopment.com/docs/efis-d10specs.html > >Sam Buchanan > >


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    Time: 08:47:37 AM PST US
    From: "Ken Simmons" <ken@truckstop.com>
    Subject: G meter and turn coordinator(long)
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Ken Simmons" <ken@truckstop.com> A follow up on the DA-55 digital G-meter. Aircraft Spruce is the only company I can find listing the item. I finally got out of them that these are backorderd because the company has to redesign the instrument because some of the parts are no longer available. That was the latest information they had. The company doesn't seem to return their phone calls. I have also emailed and phoned them with no reply. Anybody know of other digital G meters? Also, any takers on opinions of the "unconventional" turn coordinator displays on the Navaid,Dynon,EZ Pilot? Thanks. Ken ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Greg Young" <gyoung@cs-sol.com> >--> RV-List message posted by: "Greg Young" <gyoung@cs-sol.com> > >Ken, I had the DA-55 in the Phoenix. It's a nice instrument and has all the >features they say - even has a secret code to keep others from erasing the >recordings. With what limited flight time I had on it I liked it and will >reinstall it. Mine says it was made by EZE Instruments but I couldn't find a >site either. Why not shoot ACS a note and ask for more info? An example of >pretty poor marketing by the mfgr. I can scan the manual if you want to get >to that depth. > >As to the TC, you need to decide why you want it since you're not IFR. If >you want it to save your ass if you do something stupid then it better work >and you better be able to use it without getting used to it first. My >original was VFR w/o gyros except for the Navaid which was my backup if I >got stupid. I'm now IFR and the Phoenix will be too. BTW, Navaid uses a >mechanical gyro but has a digital display. Trutrak is solid state as are all >the EFIS. Decide on your mission then pick the equipment. > >Regards, >Greg Young - Houston (DWH) >RV-6 N6GY ...project Phoenix >Navion N5221K - just an XXL RV-6A > > >> --> RV-List message posted by: "Ken Simmons" <ken@truckstop.com> >> >> Is anyone familiar with the DA-55 digital G meter available >> from Aircraft Spruce? Here's a link to the website >> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/inpages/accelerometers.p >> hp. Google didn't seem to have anything for a website for the >> manufacturer. I'm considering building a digital G meter of >> some sort, but if I can buy one with all the features I want, >> I would rather pound rivets. >> >> Also, what's the impression of the built in "turn >> coordinator" features of some of the devices like Navaid >> autopilot, EZ Pilot autopilot, and the Dynon D-10. It doesn't >> appear to be as intuitive as the standard turn coordinator. >> Do you eventually get used to it? Is it to much of a trade >> off to get the no-moving-parts-reliability?


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    Time: 09:42:20 AM PST US
    From: "RV_8 Pilot" <rv_8pilot@hotmail.com>
    Subject: RV-8 Accident in N TX
    tests=FROM_HAS_UNDERLINE_NUMS --> RV-List message posted by: "RV_8 Pilot" <rv_8pilot@hotmail.com> Anyone have info on this? http://www1.faa.gov/avr/aai/M_1007_N.txt Bryan Jones -8 Pearland, Texas


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    Time: 10:13:17 AM PST US
    From: P M Condon <pcondon@mitre.org>
    Subject: Why are so many RV's registered in Delaware ???
    --> RV-List message posted by: P M Condon <pcondon@mitre.org> http://www.rvproject.com/rvfinder.jsp From time to time I have read why folks register their RV's in Delware, but, truely, are the benefits all there...and real ?? If some lawyer really wants a piece of you, would a sham, bogus company regrestry address in Delaware really save your butt?? I must be missing something because so many RV's (and other airplane owners) use this service....


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    Time: 10:27:12 AM PST US
    From: P M Condon <pcondon@mitre.org>
    Subject: Van's Tail Wheel
    --> RV-List message posted by: P M Condon <pcondon@mitre.org> My RV-4 tail wheel has two zirk fittings; one on the bronze/babbot pivot for the steering fork while the other zirk is on the Aviation Products tail wheel(Vans tail wheel proper). The Bearings are sealed bearings on the little aluimum hub so pumping grease onto the hollow hub does little good. I spin the wheel in the quiet of my hanger and listen for bearing raceway noises (scoring, loosness, sand, grit, freeplay) I have replaced a set of bearings once on my Cessna 150 tail dragger, which I used a Aviation products tailwheel after 500 hours because I detected some race scoring when I spun the wheel......never greased that bearing in over 8 years.


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    Time: 11:32:59 AM PST US
    From: "Kirsten Lacy" <klacy@totalaccess.net>
    Subject: Re: RV-8 Accident in N TX
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Kirsten Lacy" <klacy@totalaccess.net> here's another.... http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?ContentBlockID=0263216f-575c-484c-bb44-a2 3e943d3a1c&#d Kirsten Stugart Lacy ----- Original Message ----- From: "RV_8 Pilot" <rv_8pilot@hotmail.com> Subject: RV-List: RV-8 Accident in N TX > --> RV-List message posted by: "RV_8 Pilot" <rv_8pilot@hotmail.com> > > Anyone have info on this? > > http://www1.faa.gov/avr/aai/M_1007_N.txt > > Bryan Jones -8 > Pearland, Texas > >


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    Time: 11:32:59 AM PST US
    From: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
    Subject: Re: RV-8 Accident in N TX
    --> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com> Texas Couple Dies In RV-8 Incident Wed, 08 Oct '03 Pleasure Cruise Ends In Tragedy FAA investigators are going over what's left of an RV-8 after it went down about 20 miles northwest of Tyler (TX) Monday. The two people on board were ejected upon impact. Their remains were scattered on the ground 100 yards or more from the crash site. KLTV News quotes Noel Sexton, who saw the plane overhead, 2 1/2 miles south of the crash site, as saying, "It was backfiring and missing and he revved the motor up real high, and it went back to idling." Stan May lives right across from the field where the plane crashed. He says he thought the plane was about to hit his home. "He gained altitude a little bit, and then he took a nosedive out into that pasture right there. Just a sudden impact, a loud boom. There was straps from the seatbelts where he appeared to have been buckled up. And then it threw him across the road." Ernest and Marketta Woodard from Georgetown (TX) died instantly in the crash. "There wasn't a lot left of it. But, again, the investigation is ongoing," said FAA Aviation Safety Inspector, Michael Hamilton. "We can't determine a cause this early in the investigation. It's going to take a while to filter out all of the causes." FAA Preliminary Accident Report IDENTIFICATION Regis#: 27JW Make/Model: RV8 Description: RV-8 VANS Date: 10/06/2003 Time: 1750 Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: Fatal Mid Air: N Missing: N Damage: Destroyed LOCATION City: TYLER State: TX Country: US DESCRIPTION ACFT WAS FLYING BETWEEN LAYERS AND DECIDED TO CLIMB TO ON TOP. ACFT DROPPED OFF WING FORMATION. UNABLE TO CONTACT ACFT AND WRECKAGE WAS FOUND 20 M NW OF TYLER, TX. OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES ARE UNKNOWN. THE ACFT WAS DESTROYED AND THE TWO SOB'S SUFFERED FATAL INJURIES. TYLER, TX INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 2 # Crew: 1 Fat: 1 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: # Pass: 1 Fat: 1 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: WEATHER: METAR TYR 061853Z 35003KT 1SM RA BA SCT002 OVC017 19/19 A3002 OTHER DATA Activity: Pleasure Phase: Cruise Operation: General Aviation Departed: GILMER, TX Dep Date: 10/06/2003 Dep. Time: 1740 Destination: GEORGETOWN, TX GTU Flt Plan: NONE Wx Briefing: N Last Radio Cont: UNKN Last Clearance: UNKN FAA FSDO: DALLAS, TX (SW05) Entry date: 10/07/2003 At 11:41 AM 10/8/03 -0500, you wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "RV_8 Pilot" <rv_8pilot@hotmail.com> > >Anyone have info on this? > >http://www1.faa.gov/avr/aai/M_1007_N.txt > >Bryan Jones -8 >Pearland, Texas > > Scott Bilinski Eng dept 305 Phone (858) 657-2536 Pager (858) 502-5190


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    Time: 11:35:15 AM PST US
    From: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
    Subject: Re: Why are so many RV's registered in Delaware ???
    --> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com> I was told by a lawyer that if its obviously a "corporation" for the protection of a individual then the corporate veil can be pierced. At 01:14 PM 10/8/03 -0400, you wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: P M Condon <pcondon@mitre.org> > >http://www.rvproject.com/rvfinder.jsp > >>From time to time I have read why folks register their RV's in Delware, >but, truely, are the >benefits all there...and real ?? If some lawyer really wants a piece of >you, would a sham, bogus company regrestry address in Delaware really >save your butt?? I must be missing something because so many RV's (and >other airplane owners) use this service.... > > Scott Bilinski Eng dept 305 Phone (858) 657-2536 Pager (858) 502-5190


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    Time: 11:37:26 AM PST US
    From: Tedd McHenry <tedd@vansairforce.org>
    Subject: Re: Why are so many RV's registered in Delaware ???
    --> RV-List message posted by: Tedd McHenry <tedd@vansairforce.org> On Wed, 8 Oct 2003, P M Condon wrote: --snip-- > If some lawyer really wants a piece of you, would a sham, bogus company > regrestry address in Delaware really save your butt?? I must be missing > something because so many RV's (and other airplane owners) use this > service.... It's more than just bogus companies. Nine out of ten major American corporations are incorporated in Delaware. I don't know that the legal subtlties of this are, but I assume they are very real. Tedd McHenry Surrey, BC


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    Time: 11:42:16 AM PST US
    From: Chris W <chrisw3@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Why are so many RV's registered in Delaware ???
    --> RV-List message posted by: Chris W <chrisw3@cox.net> P M Condon wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: P M Condon <pcondon@mitre.org> > > http://www.rvproject.com/rvfinder.jsp > > >From time to time I have read why folks register their RV's in Delware, > but, truely, are the > benefits all there...and real ?? If some lawyer really wants a piece of > you, would a sham, bogus company regrestry address in Delaware really > save your butt?? I must be missing something because so many RV's (and > other airplane owners) use this service.... I always thought it was because taxes were less that way but I don't really know for sure. -- Chris Woodhouse 3147 SW 127th St. Oklahoma City, OK 73170 405-691-5206 chrisw@programmer.net N35 20.492' W97 34.342' "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Historical Review of Pennsylvania


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    Time: 11:45:54 AM PST US
    From: Rob Prior <rv7@b4.ca>
    Subject: Re: RV-8 Accident in N TX
    --> RV-List message posted by: Rob Prior <rv7@b4.ca> RV_8 Pilot wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "RV_8 Pilot" <rv_8pilot@hotmail.com> > Anyone have info on this? > > http://www1.faa.gov/avr/aai/M_1007_N.txt Well, after a quick search on the RV-Finder, I couldn't find it. But a search of the FAA database reveals that it's not from Texas: Aircraft Description Serial Number RJC02 Type Registration Individual Manufacturer Name COLLIANDER RICHARD J Certificate Issue Date 07/10/2001 Model VANS RV-8 Status Valid Type Aircraft Fixed Wing Single-Engine Type Engine Reciprocating Pending Number Change None Dealer No Date Change Authorized None Mode S Code 50522400 MFR Year 2000 Fractional Owner NO Registered Owner Name ROBINSON JEFFREY R Street 8839 BALD EAGLE DR City BLAINE State WASHINGTON Zip Code 98230-9300 County WHATCOM Country UNITED STATES


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    Time: 12:41:29 PM PST US
    From: Ron Patterson <scc_ron@yahoo.com>
    Subject: gaskets needed for my O-320
    --> RV-List message posted by: Ron Patterson <scc_ron@yahoo.com> --0-1139714383-1065641229=:98879 Hi guys, Just got my cylinders back from Lycon and decided to paint the case...which required my removing all the accessories from the back of the engine. Can anyone guide me to where I can get a metal cover for the vacuum pump (won't be using it), gaskets for the magnetos and fuel pump and other accessory gaskets for my O-320? I also need to find a 90 degree oil filter adapter like Mattituck was showing on their rebuild in OSH. Thanks Ron Patterson N8ZD reserved FWF --0-1139714383-1065641229=:98879 <DIV>Hi guys,</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Just got my cylinders back from Lycon and decided to paint the case...which required my removing all the accessories from the back of the engine.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Can anyone guide me to where I can get a metal cover for the vacuum pump (won't be using it), gaskets for the magnetos and fuel pump and other accessory gaskets&nbsp;for my O-320? I also need to find a 90 degree oil filter adapter like Mattituck was showing on their rebuild in OSH.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Thanks </DIV> <DIV>Ron Patterson</DIV> <DIV>N8ZD reserved FWF</DIV> --0-1139714383-1065641229=:98879--


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    Time: 01:17:32 PM PST US
    From: "Scott Brown" <scottbrown@precisionjet.com>
    Subject: RV STUFF FOR SALE
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Scott Brown" <scottbrown@precisionjet.com> Listers, I still have the following for sale: - front and rear Jon Johansen seats - full leading edge tank skins - harmon rocket fuel tank skins Please respond off-line. Thanks, Scott


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    Time: 01:28:19 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: GRT EFIS
    From: "David.vonLinsowe" <David.vonLinsowe@delphi.com>
    --> RV-List message posted by: "David.vonLinsowe" <David.vonLinsowe@delphi.com> Hi Jerry, I'm upgrading to the Grand Rapids EFIS-EIS in my flying RV-6. The start ship date for the EFIS should be the 15th of this month, the EIS is in stock. I've got the EIS in the panel and just starting to do the wiring. If you're looking for a dealer check with Greg Panzl at Wingtip to Wingtip, he's got the best prices I've found. With the way the system integrates the EFIS, Garmin 430 and the Digiflight IIVSG it should be quite the setup! Now I'll just have to learn how to use it all. :-) Dave From: Jerry2DT@aol.com Subject: RV-List: GRT EFIS --> RV-List message posted by: Jerry2DT@aol.com Folks... Is anyone on the list using the Grand Rapids EFIS/Engine Monitor yet? Any and all input/opinions are appreciated. This thing looks like a good unit. Jerry Cochran


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    Time: 01:55:15 PM PST US
    From: "John Helms" <jhelms@i1.net>
    Subject: Re: Why are so many RV's registered in Delaware ???
    --> RV-List message posted by: "John Helms" <jhelms@i1.net> Incorporating or creating a Limited Liability Corporation (regardless of the state) can be useful for certain things and not as effective as folks think for others. Those that say that they are worthless probably live in a very liberal state (California). If you have more than one owner or non-owner pilots, setting up a corporation to own the plane is a good idea. In a lawsuit, normally, the people who could be sued would be the pilot (he'll be at the crash site) and whomever is listed as the owner with the FAA. If you own a plane as two individual owners, and one of you crashes, then the other partner can be sued even if he's not there. If you own a plane and have a pilot who doesn't own it flying it, you could be sued for allowing the non-owner to fly that plane. So, for these instances corporations can possibly be useful as protection for the owner as an individual. This use for an LLC or Inc is one of the primary benefits. However, each state has different laws and climates for their state courts (where the liability lawsuit is likely to be brought). The reason for the apparent ineffectiveness of Inc. and LLCs to work for airplanes is that the lawsuit can be brought in the state that the accident happens in as opposed to the state the plane is kept and registered in. Planes tend to go all over the country, and thus the laws where you stop (suddenly) can be applied. California has notoriously liberal laws, and yes, if the corporations sole purpose is to evade liability then the 'coporate veil' could be 'pierced' and the actual owner(s) assets could be at risk. Delaware is notorious for having the most conservative laws regarding 'piercing the corporate veil'. That's why so many companies are registered there. Bottom line is that setting up an inc or llc is not completely worthless in every situation, but could be depending upon the state in which you crash. John "JT" Helms Branch Manager NationAir Insurance Agency Pleasure and Business Branch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tedd McHenry" <tedd@vansairforce.org> Subject: Re: RV-List: Why are so many RV's registered in Delaware ??? --> RV-List message posted by: Tedd McHenry <tedd@vansairforce.org> On Wed, 8 Oct 2003, P M Condon wrote: --snip-- > If some lawyer really wants a piece of you, would a sham, bogus company > regrestry address in Delaware really save your butt?? I must be missing > something because so many RV's (and other airplane owners) use this > service.... It's more than just bogus companies. Nine out of ten major American corporations are incorporated in Delaware. I don't know that the legal subtlties of this are, but I assume they are very real. Tedd McHenry Surrey, BC


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    Time: 03:01:00 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
    Subject: Dynon G feature
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com> I've noticed that I can reset the G-meter on the Dynon, power it off, back on, then the min G always reads "2.0". Is this a bug or a feature I don't understand. I'm using the latest software version. - Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com


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    Time: 03:12:10 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
    Subject: Why are so many RV's registered in Delaware ???
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com> Aren't there tax advantages to the Delaware thing? - Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Scott Bilinski [mailto:bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 2:35 PM > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV-List: Why are so many RV's registered in Delaware ??? > > > --> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski > --> <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com> > > I was told by a lawyer that if its obviously a "corporation" > for the protection of a individual then the corporate veil > can be pierced. > > > At 01:14 PM 10/8/03 -0400, you wrote: > >--> RV-List message posted by: P M Condon <pcondon@mitre.org> > > > >http://www.rvproject.com/rvfinder.jsp > > > >>From time to time I have read why folks register their RV's in > >>Delware, > >but, truely, are the > >benefits all there...and real ?? If some lawyer really wants > a piece of > >you, would a sham, bogus company regrestry address in > Delaware really > >save your butt?? I must be missing something because so many > RV's (and > >other airplane owners) use this service.... > > > > > > > Scott Bilinski > Eng dept 305 > Phone (858) 657-2536 > Pager (858) 502-5190 > > > ============ > Matronics Forums. > ============ > http://www.matronics.com/trouble-report > > ============ > ============ > > > > > >


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    Time: 03:34:17 PM PST US
    From: "RV_8 Pilot" <rv_8pilot@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: gaskets needed for my O-320
    --> RV-List message posted by: "RV_8 Pilot" <rv_8pilot@hotmail.com> Try EnParts in Lancaster, TX for the cover. might even be able to help with the oil filter adapter. 1-800-444-3305 Bryan Jones -8 Pearland, Texas >From: Ron Patterson <scc_ron@yahoo.com> >Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com >To: rv-list@matronics.com >Subject: RV-List: gaskets needed for my O-320 >Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 12:27:09 -0700 (PDT) > >--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Patterson <scc_ron@yahoo.com> > >--0-1139714383-1065641229=:98879 > >Hi guys, > >Just got my cylinders back from Lycon and decided to paint the case...which >required my removing all the accessories from the back of the engine. > >Can anyone guide me to where I can get a metal cover for the vacuum pump >(won't be using it), gaskets for the magnetos and fuel pump and other >accessory gaskets for my O-320? I also need to find a 90 degree oil filter >adapter like Mattituck was showing on their rebuild in OSH. > >Thanks >Ron Patterson >N8ZD reserved FWF > >--0-1139714383-1065641229=:98879 > ><DIV>Hi guys,</DIV> ><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> ><DIV>Just got my cylinders back from Lycon and decided to paint the >case...which required my removing all the accessories from the back of the >engine.</DIV> ><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> ><DIV>Can anyone guide me to where I can get a metal cover for the vacuum >pump (won't be using it), gaskets for the magnetos and fuel pump and other >accessory gaskets&nbsp;for my O-320? I also need to find a 90 degree oil >filter adapter like Mattituck was showing on their rebuild in OSH.</DIV> ><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> ><DIV>Thanks </DIV> ><DIV>Ron Patterson</DIV> ><DIV>N8ZD reserved FWF</DIV> >--0-1139714383-1065641229=:98879-- > >


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    Time: 05:42:30 PM PST US
    From: Charlie & Tupper England <cengland@netdoor.com>
    Subject: Re: gaskets needed for my O-320
    --> RV-List message posted by: Charlie & Tupper England <cengland@netdoor.com> Ron Patterson wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Patterson <scc_ron@yahoo.com> > >--0-1139714383-1065641229=:98879 > >Hi guys, > >Just got my cylinders back from Lycon and decided to paint the case...which required my removing all the accessories from the back of the engine. > >Can anyone guide me to where I can get a metal cover for the vacuum pump (won't be using it), gaskets for the magnetos and fuel pump and other accessory gaskets for my O-320? I also need to find a 90 degree oil filter adapter like Mattituck was showing on their rebuild in OSH. > >Thanks >Ron Patterson >N8ZD reserved FWF > I've had good luck for almost 15 years calling Linda Lou in Memphis TN. 1-800-824-9912. Courteous, competent, prompt service. Charlie


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    Time: 06:02:05 PM PST US
    From: "John" <n1cxo320@salidaco.com>
    Subject: Maximizing Range
    --> RV-List message posted by: "John" <n1cxo320@salidaco.com> I have been pondering how to operate an RV to maximize range without adding more fuel tank capacity or slowing down to really slow speeds. In the archives I ran across the admonition, "Optimum altitude (for cruising) equals the height where full throttle provides the desired cruise RPM" (or words to that effect.) Can someone with more aeronautical knowledge than I have comment on this 'wisdom.' John


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    Time: 07:12:32 PM PST US
    From: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us>
    Subject: A&P
    --> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us> Glenn, I would take one exception to your list, not all A&Ps are trained. And this is a problem in some areas where the inspectors are a little loose in signing off work experience, and the candidate takes a 3 day spin course. That said, I know many good A&Ps who learned from the school of hard knocks only, but somewhere out there is a plane with all their hard knocks on it. ;{) Wheeler North A&P IA A&P Instructor


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    Time: 07:12:38 PM PST US
    From: "Jerry Calvert" <rv6@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Mixture Cable/Attachment...
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Jerry Calvert" <rv6@cox.net> Holler when you are in town and I can drop by and bring some tubing and check out the progress. We had the first EAA meeting at Marshal's place and it went well. I am the newsletter editor so I will have to pilfer stuff from other chapter letters! Plane is still in the garage. I need to rivet on the front skin, put on the engine oil and fuel lines, put the prop on, and of course plug the wings in and hook it all up and she would be ready to for inspection. I am going to order the hoses in next few days, so I hope to move it soon. Give me a buzz. Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: <RV6AOKC@aol.com> Subject: Re: RV-List: Mixture Cable/Attachment... > --> RV-List message posted by: RV6AOKC@aol.com > > Thanks Jerry!!! I would love to steal a piece of this material from > you.....but I would like to trade....I'll give you ...say....a elec. cable crimping > tool....thats it....oh..wait....I guess that is yours too...!!!! =) > > Is the "Hussy" out at the airport yet??? Im done with my forward part of the > canopy...all that is left is the cowl, baffel, FAB, and some misc > stuff...getting close I hope.....building time is limited again as Im back at work in > Houston, working the second job at the Air Force and we are expecting #2 on Nov > 11th or so.... > > Drop me an update when you can..... > >


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    Time: 07:21:25 PM PST US
    From: "Jerry Calvert" <rv6@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: RV-8 Accident in N TX
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Jerry Calvert" <rv6@cox.net> For some reason they used a picture of Greg Hale's RV8 in this article??? Jerry Calvert Edmond Ok RV6 N296JC res ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kirsten Lacy" <klacy@totalaccess.net> Subject: Re: RV-List: RV-8 Accident in N TX > --> RV-List message posted by: "Kirsten Lacy" <klacy@totalaccess.net> > > here's another.... > > http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?ContentBlockID=0263216f-575c-484c-bb44-a2 > 3e943d3a1c&#d > > Kirsten Stugart Lacy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "RV_8 Pilot" <rv_8pilot@hotmail.com> > To: <rv-list@matronics.com> > Subject: RV-List: RV-8 Accident in N TX > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "RV_8 Pilot" <rv_8pilot@hotmail.com> > > > > Anyone have info on this? > > > > http://www1.faa.gov/avr/aai/M_1007_N.txt > > > > Bryan Jones -8 > > Pearland, Texas > > > > > >


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    Time: 07:25:15 PM PST US
    From: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
    Subject: Dynon mag update
    --> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net> In a post of a few days ago, I mentioned that the remote magnetometer installation on my Dynon EFIS had been problematic. I am happy to report that the magnetic gremlins have been excised, and the heading function of my Dynon EFIS is now working as designed. Turns out I had a magnetometer that did not have the factory calibration data onboard its memory chip. Once the crippled mag was replaced with an intelligent one, and the field calibration routine completed, the heading indicator began working with a less than five degree error. I am confident that further tweaking will tighten the accuracy even more. Of course, if we can get these magnetic gizmos to indicate with 2-3 degrees, that is probably as close as we can expect since I don't know how we can practically align an airframe any closer than that to a particular magnetic heading on the ground or in the air. The mag in my plane is mounted on the deck under the leading edge of the vertical stab. This is a good location that is easily accessible. The only downside to this location I can see is the likely intrusion of water; I wrapped the mag in a taped plastic bag but will probably go back at some point and seal the mag with some proseal or RTV. The proximity of the mag to elevator horns and the tailwheel spring have no effect on the accuracy of the heading indications. Matter of fact, I found I could leave the ELT antenna in its original location about six inches from the magnetometer. I need to point out the commendably patient efforts of Doug Medema at Dynon to troubleshoot this problem and another issue I have had with my Dynon. If Dynon continues to support their product in this manner, they will be a major player in the EFIS game for a long time to come. I am very pleased with the Dynon EFIS and the value it represents, and look forward to future enhancements by the Dynon gang. Sam Buchanan (RV-6, 515 hrs)


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    Time: 07:26:24 PM PST US
    From: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
    Subject: [Fwd: [VAF Mailing List] Woodard Service Arrangements]
    --> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [VAF Mailing List] Woodard Service Arrangements From: Mike Thompson <grobdriver@yahoo.com> Folks, I have information about the visitation and funeral for Ernest and Marketta Woodard, lost in an RV-8 accident on 6 October. Visitation will be this Friday from 6 to 8 PM at the Gabriel Funeral Home at 393 North IH 35. The funeral will be Saturday at 2 PM at Crestview Baptist Church, 2300 Williams Drive in Georgetown. The family has asked that donations be given in lieu of flowers to the church in the Woodard's name which will assign the funds for mission work. Mike Thompson President, EAA Chapter 187


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    Time: 08:03:53 PM PST US
    From: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com>
    Subject: Maximizing Range
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com> Hi John, A lot depends on your particular RV and how it's configured. Mainly, Fixed Pitch vs Constant Speed. The traditional formula of altitude for 75% power at full throttle doesn't necessarily apply. This isn't always the way to achieve "econ" cruise. I'll keep this short, since a bunch of C/S guys can givey ou their specs, but here's mine. IO-360 (180hp) Fixed Pitch, 85". I can run the RPM past 2700 at any altitude to 15,000 feet (I haven't had O2 to try above that). As a result, I usually fly around at a lot less, around 2400. At 2700 I can zip along at 195-200mph, but I "sip" 10-11gph. At 2400, I can lope along at 170-175mph, and drink only 7.8-8gph. If I slow down to 160 I can get the burn down to 6.9-7.4gph. Quick math tells you the slower I go, the further I can go, but like most RV'ers I'm impatient, so I usually choose 170mph and 8gph. Gives me lots of distance in 3.5-4hrs (+reserve), which is just about all my bladder and butt really are comfortable with. Someone of the C/S guys have done extensive studies on engine parameters, fuel burn, MP, speed, etc.. would give you a much better and accurate answer than my "seat of the pants" recording! Hope this helps, Stein Bruch RV6's, Minneapolis http://www.steinair.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of John Subject: RV-List: Maximizing Range --> RV-List message posted by: "John" <n1cxo320@salidaco.com> I have been pondering how to operate an RV to maximize range without adding more fuel tank capacity or slowing down to really slow speeds. In the archives I ran across the admonition, "Optimum altitude (for cruising) equals the height where full throttle provides the desired cruise RPM" (or words to that effect.) Can someone with more aeronautical knowledge than I have comment on this 'wisdom.' John


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    Time: 09:33:45 PM PST US
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    From: "Kirsten Lacy" <klacy@totalaccess.net>
    Subject: Re: RV-8 Accident in N TX
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Kirsten Lacy" <klacy@totalaccess.net> --------------Boundary-00=_1I3HQL80000000000000 --------------Boundary-00=_2I3HLVC0000000000000 Jerry, I haven't a clue as to why they used someone else's pic in this article. I had thought this site a good source of information until toda= y. Perhaps (?) they've forgotten how personal this can be. My sister actual= ly sent them a scathing e-mail ( she left a message on the phone, but it was not returned ) about how they had reported this story about the Woodards. Their remains were scattered...." no one, I think, wants to hear that, least of all family and friends. There was no author or reporter was lis= ted as being responsible for this article. If you should find out why why Greg Hale's pic was used, would you please let me know via this board, or e-mail me direct. These past months have truly been an experience, learning to deal with the FAA, NTSB, and the media, searching for information. I've considered lately that I would li= ke to use this knowledge to help other families in the same situation. Thanks for any help, resources, or insight y'all can provide. Anyone w= ho needs info on navigating this kind of loss, please e-mail me. Kirsten Stugart Lacy ( stepping off of the soapbox, lol ) klacy@totalaccess.net -------Original Message------- From: rv-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: RV-List: RV-8 Accident in N TX --> RV-List message posted by: "Jerry Calvert" <rv6@cox.net> For some reason they used a picture of Greg Hale's RV8 in this article???= Jerry Calvert Edmond Ok RV6 N296JC res ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kirsten Lacy" <klacy@totalaccess.net> Subject: Re: RV-List: RV-8 Accident in N TX > --> RV-List message posted by: "Kirsten Lacy" <klacy@totalaccess.net> > > here's another.... > > http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?ContentBlockID0263216f-575c-484c-bb= 44-a2 > 3e943d3a1c&#d > > Kirsten Stugart Lacy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "RV_8 Pilot" <rv_8pilot@hotmail.com> > To: <rv-list@matronics.com> > Subject: RV-List: RV-8 Accident in N TX > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "RV_8 Pilot" <rv_8pilot@hotmail.com> > > > > Anyone have info on this? > > > > http://www1.faa.gov/avr/aai/M_1007_N.txt > > > > Bryan Jones -8 > > Pearland, Texas > > > > > > = = rt = = --------------Boundary-00=_2I3HLVC0000000000000 <HTML><HEAD> 1"> <META content"IncrediMail 1.0" nameGENERATOR> <!--IncrdiXMLRemarkStart> <IncrdiX-Info> <X-FID>FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000</X-FID> <X-FVER></X-FVER> <X-CNT>;</X-CNT> </IncrdiX-Info> <IncrdiXMLRemarkEnd--> </HEAD> <BODY style"BACKGROUND-POSITION: 0px 0px; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 5px= 10px 10px; FONT-FAMILY: Arial" bgColor#ffffff background"" scroll= yes ORGYPOS"0" X-FVER"3.0"> <TABLE idINCREDIMAINTABLE cellSpacing0 cellPadding2 width"100= %" border0> <TBODY> <TR> <TD idINCREDITEXTREGION style"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; CURSOR: auto; FONT-F= AMILY: Arial" width"100%"> <DIV>Jerry, I haven't a clue as to why they used someone else's pic in th= is article.&nbsp; I had thought this site a good source of information un= til today.&nbsp; Perhaps&nbsp;(?) they've forgotten how personal this can= be.&nbsp; My&nbsp;sister&nbsp;actually sent them a scathing&nbsp;e-mail (&nbsp;she left a message on the phone, but it was not returned ) about h= ow they had reported this story about the&nbsp;Woodards."Their remains we= re scattered...."&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;no one, I think, wants to hear that, l= east of all&nbsp;family and friends.&nbsp; There was no author or reporte= r was&nbsp;listed as being responsible for this&nbsp;article.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>If you should find out why why Greg Hale's pic was used, would you p= lease let me know via this board, or e-mail me direct.&nbsp; These past m= onths have truly been an experience, learning to deal with the &nbsp;FAA,= NTSB,&nbsp; and the media, searching for information.&nbsp; I've conside= red&nbsp;lately that I would like to use this knowledge to help other fam= ilies in the same situation.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Thanks for any help, resources, &nbsp;or insight&nbsp; y'all&nbsp;ca= n provide.&nbsp; Anyone who needs info on navigating this kind of&nbsp;lo= ss, please e-mail me.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Kirsten Stugart Lacy&nbsp; (&nbsp; stepping off of the soapbox, lol )</DIV> <DIV><A href"mailto:klacy@totalaccess.net">klacy@totalaccess.net</A></= DIV> <DIV><BR>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV idIncrediOriginalMessage><I>-------Original Message-------</I></D= IV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV idreceivestrings> <DIV dirltr style"FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>From:</B></I> <A href"m= ailto:rv-list@matronics.com">rv-list@matronics.com</A></DIV> <DIV dirltr style"FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>Date:</B></I> Wednesday, O= ctober 08, 2003 10:06:28 PM</DIV> <DIV dirltr style"FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>To:</B></I> <A href"mai= lto:rv-list@matronics.com">rv-list@matronics.com</A></DIV> <DIV dirltr style"FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>Subject:</B></I> Re: RV-Li= st: RV-8 Accident in N TX</DIV></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>--&gt; RV-List message posted by: "Jerry Calvert" &lt;<A= href"mailto:rv6@cox.net">rv6@cox.net</A>&gt;<BR><BR>For some reason t= hey used a picture of Greg Hale's RV8 in this article???<BR><BR>Jerry Cal= vert<BR>Edmond Ok<BR>RV6 N296JC res<BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>Fr= om: "Kirsten Lacy" &lt;<A href"mailto:klacy@totalaccess.net">klacy@tot= alaccess.net</A>&gt;<BR>To: &lt;<A href"mailto:rv-list@matronics.com">= rv-list@matronics.com</A>&gt;<BR>Subject: Re: RV-List: RV-8 Accident in N= TX<BR><BR><BR>&gt; --&gt; RV-List message posted by: "Kirsten Lacy" &lt;= <A href"mailto:klacy@totalaccess.net">klacy@totalaccess.net</A>&gt;<BR= >&gt;<BR>&gt; here's another....<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR><A href"http://www= aero-news.net/index.cfm?ContentBlockID0263216f-575c-484c-bb44-a2">h= ttp://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?ContentBlockID0263216f-575c-484c-bb4= 4-a2</A><BR>&gt; 3e943d3a1c&amp;#d<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Kirsten Stugart Lacy<B= R>&gt;<BR>&gt; ----- Original Message -----<BR>&gt; From: "RV_8 Pilot" &l= t;<A href"mailto:rv_8pilot@hotmail.com">rv_8pilot@hotmail.com</A>&gt;<= BR>&gt; 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    Time: 09:33:45 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
    Subject: Dynon mag update
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com> "Turns out I had a magnetometer that did not have the factory calibration data onboard its memory chip." How was this determined? How can other customers be assured they don't have the same problem? - Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Sam Buchanan [mailto:sbuc@hiwaay.net] > Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 10:25 PM > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV-List: Dynon mag update > > > --> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net> > > In a post of a few days ago, I mentioned that the remote > magnetometer installation on my Dynon EFIS had been > problematic. I am happy to report that the magnetic gremlins > have been excised, and the heading function of my Dynon EFIS > is now working as designed. > > Turns out I had a magnetometer that did not have the factory > calibration data onboard its memory chip. Once the crippled > mag was replaced with an intelligent one, and the field > calibration routine completed, the heading indicator began > working with a less than five degree error. I am confident > that further tweaking will tighten the accuracy even more. Of > course, if we can get these magnetic gizmos to indicate with > 2-3 degrees, that is probably as close as we can expect since > I don't know how we can practically align an airframe any > closer than that to a particular magnetic heading on the > ground or in the air. [snip]


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    Time: 09:47:57 PM PST US
    From: "Darwin N. Barrie" <ktlkrn@cox.net>
    <AZ_RVList@yahoogroups.com>
    Subject: Tip Up canopy
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Darwin N. Barrie" <ktlkrn@cox.net> I have spent roughly 80 hours on the canopy detail. It is nearing completion and I think it turned out nice. However the side frames do not line up perfectly to the fuse sides. The left side is in about 1/16" and the right side at the back sticks out about 1/16". Maybe I'm nitpicking here but.... My question is, has anyone used any alignment pins (maybe two) on the canopy frame that would align the frame to the fuselage? I'm thinking maybe two pins one near the back and one farther forward that are attached to the frame and go into holes in the fuse deck. This would provide for perfect alignment of the frame to the fuse and would be very easy to install. I'm not going for a show stopper but the small details are important. Let me know if I'm going over board here. Darwin N. Barrie Chandler AZ <HTML><HEAD> <META content"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1264" nameGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor#ffffff> <DIV><FONT faceArial size2>I have spent roughly 80 hours on the canopy detail. It is nearing completion and I think it turned out nice. However the side frames do not line up perfectly to the fuse sides. The left side is in about 1/16" and the right side at the back sticks out about 1/16". Maybe I'm nitpicking here but....</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT faceArial size2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT faceArial size2>My question is, has anyone used any alignment pins (maybe two) on the canopy frame that would align the frame to the fuselage? I'm thinking maybe two pins one near the back and one farther forward that are attached to the frame and go into holes in the fuse deck. This would provide for perfect alignment of the frame to the fuse and would be very easy to install.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT faceArial size2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT faceArial size2>I'm not going for a show stopper but the small details are important. Let me know if I'm going over board here.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT faceArial size2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT faceArial size2>Darwin N. Barrie </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT faceArial size2>Chandler AZ</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>




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