---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 10/11/03: 13 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:24 AM - Re: closing the eft face of the HS and VS fiberglass tips (Gert) 2. 10:29 AM - Dynon Report (Wheeler North) 3. 10:31 AM - SoCAL RV RendezVous Information (WMPALM@aol.com) 4. 11:04 AM - Cub clone (Dr. Leathers) 5. 11:18 AM - Duplicates and Extra HTML in List Messages Solved!!! (Matt Dralle) 6. 12:10 PM - Closing fiberglass Tips () 7. 01:18 PM - Re: Cub clone (Karie Daniel) 8. 02:48 PM - Re: Closing fiberglass Tips (Mark Phillips) 9. 03:34 PM - Re: Landoll Balancer (Don Diehl) 10. 03:42 PM - Re: Closing fiberglass Tips (Richard Lundin) 11. 03:50 PM - Re: Cub clone (Richard Lundin) 12. 05:24 PM - Slobovia Outernational Airport Party Invitation (Charlie & Tupper England) 13. 05:48 PM - Re: Closing fiberglass Tips (Jeff Orear) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:24:52 AM PST US From: Gert Subject: Re: RV-List: closing the eft face of the HS and VS fiberglass tips --> RV-List message posted by: Gert And....nothing can get in there to come out and block the surfaces from moving when you least want it. Darwin N. Barrie wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Darwin N. Barrie" > > When visiting Oshkosh I looked at every RV there. The vast majority had the > closures. The really nice ones had the glass work faired in nicely. > > I chose to fair mine in for a few reasons, 1) I like the appearance, 2) Any > aerodynamic improvement is beneficial, 3) The weight gain is negligible 4) > The process can occur a little at a time, i.e, work on it for a while then > move on to something else and come back to it when you feel like it. I'd say > the elevator and stab glass work, faired in and ready for primer, took a > total of about 6 hours over the course of a month. > > Darwin N. Barrie > Chandler AZ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Amit Dagan" > To: > Subject: RV-List: closing the eft face of the HS and VS fiberglass tips > > > >>--> RV-List message posted by: "Amit Dagan" >> >>Question: >>Is there any aerodynamic reason to close the aft face of the horizontal >> > and > >>vertical tips ? >>I know it looks nicer, and maybe keeps critters out of there, but I would >>rather save the weight and time if there is no aerodynamic reason. >>Thanks. >> >> >> > > > > > > > > -- is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:29:28 AM PST US From: Wheeler North Subject: RV-List: Dynon Report --> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North OK, so we finally got a cloudy day in Southern Kaaleefornia (I'm told that this is the proper way to say it now that the skys are less Gray and our future is brighter) so I went out to the compass rose to get as accurate a calibration as I possibly could. I had everything turned on including two gps's, the DG, the mag compass, and the Dynon D-10 with the external EDC, the engine, the lights, the whistles and bells and wide angle gicchygoomies were all spinning. My results were Earth Mag D-10 w/EDC 360 359 359 030 030 032 060 058 062 090 090 092 120 119 120 150 150 151 180 180 180 210 208 209 240 240 241 270 270 269 300 300 298 330 330 329 I very pleased with these results. In fact the EDC had a more normal sinusoidal variance than the SIRS compass did even though the SIRS was a little closer. This is probably more due to the limitations of reading the smaller card of the SIRS than anything else. That said I want to emphasize that the D-10 wouldn't dial in very well without the EDC, nor would it with the EDC anywhere near (12" or less) any iron or current. It also wasn't that great (+-5/4deg) until I got the EDC within a few tenths of a degree of level and oriented relative to the D-10. So do your best to get these two accurately in jive with each other. Once done the calibration is very straight forward. Don't forget to reswing your compass while your at it and then update both cards. W ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:31:22 AM PST US From: WMPALM@aol.com Subject: RV-List: SoCAL RV RendezVous Information OPPORTUNITY_2 (1.3 points) BODY": HTML_FONT_COLOR_UNSAFE.BODY:HTML.font.color.not.within.safe.6x6x6.palette@Opportunity.-.What.a.deal.UUCP (0.1 points) --> RV-List message posted by: WMPALM@aol.com EVENT: SoCAL RV RendezVous DATE: Saturday, Nov. 1, 2003 TIME: 9am to 4pm LOCATION: Cable Airport (KCCB), Upland, CA (http://www.cableairport.com) Cable Airport's manger, Chuck Barnett, is graciously allowing us to use the old north-south crosswind runway as the site of our fly-in. The old runway=20= is now a taxiway located at the northwest corner of the airport just north of t= he fuel pit and west of the north hangars. REGISTRATION: When you arrive, please sign-in at our registration table and pick-up your badge. If you already have an EAA badge, you are encouraged to wear it as w= ell. RV FLYERS: Our SoCAL RV RendezVous is a great opportunity for you to meet your fellow R= V flyers/builders, enjoy some great RV camaraderie, and share your RV experiences and knowledge. Since this is an RV-focused "get together," ever= yone attending will be an enthusiastic "RVer" in some way! Many RV builders, pot= ential builders, and other RV enthusiasts will be attending the RendezVous, and we encourage you to encourage them! We're sure that they will be very interest= ed in your building experiences and will enjoy hearing about your RV flying. Note: If you decide that you want to give a few builders/enthusiasts a short= ride, that would be great, but we want to emphasize that giving rides is completely optional on your part. You are certainly not obligated to do so.= Our main goal is to have you fly-in, show-off your RV, share your building and flight experiences, and Have Fun! Only offer a short ride if you happen to=20= feel like it! If not, don't worry about it! Just relax and Have Fun with your fellow "RVers!" RV BUILDERS, POTENTIAL BUILDERS, and RV ENTHUSIASTS: Note that this "get together" will be a particularly great opportunity for R= V builders, and potential builders/enthusiasts, to meet experienced RV builders/flyers and see their beautiful aircraft both in-flight and at the R= V parking area. You will be able to ask questions and gain valuable knowledge concerning the RV building process, the installation and checkout of various= aircraft systems, and RV performance and flight characteristics. A few RV flyers may= offer some lucky builders/enthusiasts a short encouragement/motivation ride,= but this opportunity is strictly at the discretion of the individual RV flyers/owners. We would expect builders/enthusiasts to be courteous and not= solicit any of the RV flyers/owners for a ride - - Please wait to be asked. Many RV= flyers will prefer to just sit, relax, and talk rather than give rides. Builders interested in rides should display their Van's builder's number and= RV model under construction on their registration badge and have a pilot's license. Potential builders may also be lucky enough to fly - - Please not= e "RV Builder???" on your badge and have your pilot's license handy. Also, "Significant Others" (the real decision-makers!) may be able to get a ride.=20= If offered a flight, builders and potential builders should offer to help pay f= or avgas. FLY-IN PROCEDURES: Cable Airport is a family-owned, RV-friendly airport with easy VFR access from the northwest and northeast (north of Ontario) as well as relatively ea= sy access from the south and southwest past Corona and west of the Chino and Brackett Airports. Be sure to contact the Chino and Brackett towers for per= mission to fly through their airspace if you so chose. Please comply with all airspace restrictions and steer-clear of Ontario's airspace unless you're ta= lking to ATC. We definitely want to have a violation-free day and maintain good relations with all air traffic control facilities/personnel. Note: A moving map GPS with airspace boundary depiction is highly recom mended. SoCAL airspace permits good VFR access, but you do need to know exactly wher= e and how high you are relative to controlled airspace. Also, please keep a wary eye out for airborne traffic. The traffic is not as thick as popularly= rumored, but SoCAL is a nice place to fly for all, and many RVs will be flyi= ng into Cable as well. Cable is an uncontrolled airport but does have published recommended VFR arrival and departure procedures which you should review (see Cable's websit= e and your flight guide). Also, please be neighbor-friendly by keeping noise down= . VFR arrival and departure procedures for Cable airport can be found at http://www.cableairport.com/images/vfr24.gif for runway 24 (most likely runw= ay with prevailing winds from the west) and at http://www.cableairport.com/images/vfr6.gif for runway 6. Please note that the Cable traffic pattern is left turns only - - No straight-ins or outs! No formation takeoffs, No buzz jobs, No fooling aroun= d! Flybys are restricted to pattern altitude, and flyby aircraft must yield to any aircraft in the standard traffic pattern. Be particularly watchful for cros= swind approach traffic! PLEASE NO LOW FLYBYS! All FARs must be observed. An FAA representative who is also building an RV= will be on the airport and could potentially issue violations for unsafe actions. If you wish to do a flyby, please remain at pattern altitude and w= atch carefully for traffic. After landing, you will exit off the runway to the NORTH side of the runway then taxi WEST. As you taxi westbound, please look for our RV RendezVous ta= xi and parking guides - - they'll have vests, wands, etc. and will help direct you to the next available parking spot. Please bring your own wheel chocks as we will be parking RVs on the old crosswind runway/taxiway that has a slight slope. Non-RV aircraft will be p= arked parallel to and facing the active runway near the RV parking. Tie-down chai= ns are available for those aircraft parking along the runway. FORMATION FLYING: If you are interested in formation flying (who isn't?), please contact Gary Sobek for further information and coordination: RV6_Flyer@hotmail.com. You must be a qualified, experienced RV formation flyer and comply with all Cabl= e Airport flight procedures/restrictions as well as FAA regulations. WEATHER ALTERNATES: In the unlikely event that Cable Airport is not sunny and clear on the morning of Nov. 1 as usual, our VFR weather alternates are: #1 Agua Dulce Ai= rpark (L70) and #2: Apple Valley (KAPV). Both Agua Dulce and Apple Valley are wel= l equipped with ramp space, food, and avgas to handle lots of fly-ins. If Cable is IFR, Paul and Victoria Rosales (cell 661 433-6056) will be at Agua Dulce to greet arrivals there. Paul and Victoria will be in contact wi= th the RendezVous crew at Cable to get the latest weather information. We don'= t plan to have anyone stationed at Apple Valley, but Paul and Victoria will fl= y there if Agua Dulce is socked in (which only happens "once in a blue moon!")= . NOTE: All drive-ins should proceed to Cable Airport, because we will have Cable-stationed RVs on-hand regardless of weather. DRIVE-IN DIRECTIONS: Ground-bound RV enthusiasts, particularly RV builders and potential builders= , are encouraged to attend! Cable Airport is located north of the I-10 freewa= y in Upland, CA. Take I-10's Central Avenue exit NORTH past Montclair Plaza.=20= At the end of Central Ave. (1.3 miles from I-10) turn RIGHT (EAST) on Foothi= ll Blvd. (Historic Route 66). (There's a traffic light there.) Travel EAST on= Foothill to the next traffic light. Turn LEFT (NORTH) at the light onto Benson Ave. (There's a "76" Gasoline/Car Wash Plaza on the left, and on the= right you'll see a Carl's Jr. and an "Old-Style" McDonald's across the inter section.) Continue NORTH on Benson Ave. past the Lowe's on your left and PAST the main= entrance to Cable Airport at the 13TH Street (first) traffic light. Continu= e PAST the second traffic light and you should see a Fire Station on the right= . After you pass the Fire Station (the runway will be on your left), you will make a LEFT (WEST) turn at the next opportunity (Howard Access Road) onto Ca= ble Airport. There is a sign that says "Holliday Rock Quarry" at this entrance. Drive through the gate onto the airport. Continue WEST via the taxiway between th= e hangars and keep your speed down to 5 mph or less. AIRCRAFT HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY! Give way to aircraft by pulling over to the right and stopping until the aircraft passes. Also, be careful to slow down before any open hangar to ma= ke sure that aircraft, people, or vehicles are not exiting the hangar. At the= end of the row of hangars, you will be directed to parking. Look for the SoCAL=20= RV signs and our RendezVous parking guides. OVERNIGHT STAY: If you are flying in from a distance and plan to stay Friday and/or Saturday= night, we would recommend the Western Inn located at 1191 East Foothill Blvd= ., Upland, CA approximately 4 to 5 miles from Cable. Their web address is http://www.venquest.com/westerninnupland. The Western Inn is clean and acce= ssible with restaurants nearby. The Western Inn has a "Cable Airport" discount of $59 for a single king or two queen beds and $69-$79 for more upscale accommodations. These are excellent prices for the Southern California area= . The Western Inn's reservation phone number is 800-726-2955 (Internet Hotel Hotline), and their local number is 909-949-4800. Reservations can also be=20= made directly through Western Inn's website. The Western Inn does not have Cable= Airport pickup, but our SoCAL group might be able to provide complimentary g= ro und transportation for you. Please contact Bill Palmer at wmpalm@aol.com as= soon as possible to request complimentary transportation between Cable Airpo= rt and the Western Inn. Also, there are two taxi companies serving the area: Yellow Cab, 909-622-1313, and Dell Cab, 800-340-8294. FOOD and DRINK: For morning arrivals, we will have FREE donuts, rolls, juice, and coffee. For lunch, the Cable EAA Chapter will have their food booth with reasonably priced food and drink. Cable also has an excellent airport restaurant, Man= iac Mike's Caf=E9, for more "gourmet" fare at reasonable prices. We will have a= shuttle van to take people to the south side of the airport where Maniac Mik= e's Caf=E9 is located. Please DO NOT walk across the runway but please DO use our shuttle van. SHELTER, SEATING, SWAPS, AND OTHER STUFF: Shade and seating will be under the new 60 X 60 shade hangar that is used as= an aircraft wash rack. We will have the food booth, Clearair Tools tool dem= o area, and an area to sell / swap any of your RV-related parts. We would lik= e to have a Tee Shirt vendor on site to sell 2003 SoCAL RV RendezVous shirts a= nd are working to find one. Note: You might want to bring some suntan lotion, or sunscreen, if you plan to do a lot of gawking at the RVs out on the ramp! SAFETY AND SECURITY: Our Safety and Security Officer is Gary Hart. In case of any problems, Gary= will be able to contact local law enforcement, the local fire department, healthcare, etc. Note: Gary Hart has the "Final Word" with respect to RendezVous safety! All= RendezVous participants are expected to follow Gary's guidance to ensure a Safe, Good Time! Important: We have no "event" insurance, since this is an informal "get together" for RV folks only and is not a "public" fly-in, so you're self-ins= ured. All flying and ground operations are at your own risk/insurance. Although Gary, and other SoCAL volunteers, will be available to help you, your safety= and security is ultimately your own responsibility! RSVP: If you're planning to come to the RendezVous (75% sure, anyway!), please RSV= P via a reply to SoCAL_RendezVous@yahoo.com with your estimated number of people in your group and vehicles (autos or aircraft) so that we can get a r= ough idea of how many people and vehicles might be arriving. This will help us w= ith aircraft and auto parking preparations, food and drink amounts, etc. THANKS= ! QUESTIONS: If you have any questions, please contact Bill Palmer at wmpalm@aol.com, and= we'll try to provide an answer, or at least an opinion! Note: Our responses= are at your own risk! SUMMARY: No Judging, No Trophies, No Schedule, No Fees, No Hassles - - Just Mutual RV= Admiration and FUN! We'll look forward to seeing you on Saturday, Nov.1 at Cable Airport!!! RVs= FOREVER!!! Best Regards, Gary Sobek SoCAL RV RendezVous Chairman EAA Technical Counselor, AB DAR-elect RV-6 N157GS Bill Palmer RendezVous Marketing and Communications Officer RV-8A QB In-Progress EVENT: SoCAL RV RendezVous

DATE: Saturday, Nov. 1, 2003

TIME: 9am to 4pm

LOCATION: Cable Airport (KCCB), Upland, CA  (http://www.cableairport.co= m)

Cable Airport's manger, Chuck Barnett, is graciously allowing us to use the=20= old north-south crosswind runway as the site of our fly-in.  The old ru= nway is now a taxiway located at the northwest corner of the airport just no= rth of the fuel pit and west of the north hangars.

REGISTRATION:

When you arrive, please sign-in at our registration table and pick-up your b= adge.  If you already have an EAA badge, you are encouraged to wear it=20= as well.

RV FLYERS:

Our SoCAL RV RendezVous is a great opportunity for you to meet your fellow R= V flyers/builders, enjoy some great RV camaraderie, and share your RV experi= ences and knowledge.  Since this is an RV-focused "get together," every= one attending will be an enthusiastic "RVer" in some way!  Many RV buil= ders, potential builders, and other RV enthusiasts will be attending the Ren= dezVous, and we encourage you to encourage them!  We're sure that they=20= will be very interested in your building experiences and will enjoy hearing=20= about your RV flying.

Note: If you decide that you want to give a few builders/enthusiasts a short= ride, that would be great, but we want to emphasize that giving rides is co= mpletely optional on your part.  You are certainly not obligated to do=20= so.  Our main goal is to have you fly-in, show-off your RV, share your=20= building and flight experiences, and Have Fun!  Only offer a short ride= if you happen to feel like it!  If not, don't worry about it!  Ju= st relax and Have Fun with your fellow "RVers!"

RV BUILDERS, POTENTIAL BUILDERS, and RV ENTHUSIASTS:

Note that this "get together" will be a particularly great opportunity for R= V builders, and potential builders/enthusiasts, to meet experienced RV build= ers/flyers and see their beautiful aircraft both in-flight and at the RV par= king area.  You will be able to ask questions and gain valuable knowled= ge concerning the RV building process, the installation and checkout of vari= ous aircraft systems, and RV performance and flight characteristics.  A= few RV flyers may offer some lucky builders/enthusiasts a short encourageme= nt/motivation ride, but this opportunity is strictly at the discretion of th= e individual RV flyers/owners.  We would expect builders/enthusiasts to= be courteous and not solicit any of the RV flyers/owners for a ride - - Ple= ase wait to be asked.  Many RV flyers will prefer to just sit, relax, a= nd talk rather than give rides. 

Builders interested in rides should display their Van's builder's number and= RV model under construction on their registration badge and have a pilot's=20= license.   Potential builders may also be lucky enough to fly - -=20= Please note "RV Builder???" on your badge and have your pilot's license hand= y.  Also, "Significant Others" (the real decision-makers!) may be able=20= to get a ride.  If offered a flight, builders and potential builders sh= ould offer to help pay for avgas.

FLY-IN PROCEDURES:

Cable Airport is a family-owned, RV-friendly airport with easy VFR access fr= om the northwest and northeast (north of Ontario) as well as relatively easy= access from the south and southwest past Corona and west of the Chino and B= rackett Airports.  Be sure to contact the Chino and Brackett towers for= permission to fly through their airspace if you so chose.  Please comp= ly with all airspace restrictions and steer-clear of Ontario's airspace unle= ss you're talking to ATC.  We definitely want to have a violation-free=20= day and maintain good relations with all air traffic control facilities/pers= onnel. 

Note: A moving map GPS with airspace boundary depiction is highly recommende= d. 

SoCAL airspace permits good VFR access, but you do need to know exactly wher= e and how high you are relative to controlled airspace.  Also, please k= eep a wary eye out for airborne traffic.  The traffic is not as thick a= s popularly rumored, but SoCAL is a nice place to fly for all, and many RVs=20= will be flying into Cable as well. 

Cable is an uncontrolled airport but does have published recommended VFR arr= ival and departure procedures which you should review (see Cable's website a= nd your flight guide).  Also, please be neighbor-friendly by keeping no= ise down.  VFR arrival and departure procedures for Cable airport can b= e found at http://www.cableairport.com/images/vfr24.gif for runway 24 (most=20= likely runway with prevailing winds from the west) and at http://www.cableai= rport.com/images/vfr6.gif for runway 6. 

Please note that the Cable traffic pattern is left turns only - - No straigh= t-ins or outs!  No formation takeoffs, No buzz jobs, No fooling around!=   Flybys are restricted to pattern altitude, and flyby aircraft must yi= eld to any aircraft in the standard traffic pattern.  Be particularly w= atchful for crosswind approach traffic! 

PLEASE NO LOW FLYBYS! 

All FARs must be observed.  An FAA representative who is also building=20= an RV will be on the airport and could potentially issue violations for unsa= fe actions.  If you wish to do a flyby, please remain at pattern altitu= de and watch carefully for traffic.

After landing, you will exit off the runway to the NORTH side of the runway=20= then taxi WEST.  As you taxi westbound, please look for our RV RendezVo= us taxi and parking guides - - they'll have vests, wands, etc. and will help= direct you to the next available parking spot. 

Please bring your own wheel chocks as we will be parking RVs on the old cros= swind runway/taxiway that has a slight slope.  Non-RV aircraft will be=20= parked parallel to and facing the active runway near the RV parking.  T= ie-down chains are available for those aircraft parking along the runway.
FORMATION FLYING:

If you are interested in formation flying (who isn't?), please contact Gary=20= Sobek for further information and coordination: RV6_Flyer@hotmail.com. = You must be a qualified, experienced RV formation flyer and comply with all= Cable Airport flight procedures/restrictions as well as FAA regulations.
WEATHER ALTERNATES:

In the unlikely event that Cable Airport is not sunny and clear on the morni= ng of Nov. 1 as usual, our VFR weather alternates are: #1 Agua Dulce Airpark= (L70) and #2: Apple Valley (KAPV).  Both Agua Dulce and Apple Valley a= re well equipped with ramp space, food, and avgas to handle lots of fly-ins.=  

If Cable is IFR, Paul and Victoria Rosales (cell 661 433-6056) will be at Ag= ua Dulce to greet arrivals there.  Paul and Victoria will be in contact= with the RendezVous crew at Cable to get the latest weather information.&nb= sp; We don't plan to have anyone stationed at Apple Valley, but Paul and Vic= toria will fly there if Agua Dulce is socked in (which only happens "once in= a blue moon!"). 

NOTE: All drive-ins should proceed to Cable Airport, because we will have Ca= ble-stationed RVs on-hand regardless of weather.

DRIVE-IN DIRECTIONS:

Ground-bound RV enthusiasts, particularly RV builders and potential builders= freeway in Upland, CA.  Take I-10's Central Avenue exit NORTH past Mon= tclair Plaza.  At the end of Central Ave. (1.3 miles from I-10) turn RI= GHT (EAST) on Foothill Blvd. (Historic Route 66).  (There's a traffic l= ight there.)  Travel EAST on Foothill to the next traffic light. =20= Turn LEFT (NORTH) at the light onto Benson Ave.  (There's a "76" Gasoli= ne/Car Wash Plaza on the left, and on the right you'll see a Carl's Jr. and=20= an "Old-Style" McDonald's across the intersection.) 

Continue NORTH on Benson Ave. past the Lowe's on your left and PAST the main= entrance to Cable Airport at the 13TH Street (first) traffic light.  C= ontinue PAST the second traffic light and you should see a Fire Station on t= he right.  After you pass the Fire Station (the runway will be on your=20= left), you will make a LEFT (WEST) turn at the next opportunity (Howard Acce= ss Road) onto Cable Airport. 

There is a sign that says "Holliday Rock Quarry" at this entrance.  Dri= ve through the gate onto the airport.  Continue WEST via the taxiway be= tween the hangars and keep your speed down to 5 mph or less. 

AIRCRAFT HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY! 

Give way to aircraft by pulling over to the right and stopping until the air= craft passes.  Also, be careful to slow down before any open hangar to=20= make sure that aircraft, people, or vehicles are not exiting the hangar.&nbs= p;  At the end of the row of hangars, you will be directed to parking.&= nbsp; Look for the SoCAL RV signs and our RendezVous parking guides.

OVERNIGHT STAY:

If you are flying in from a distance and plan to stay Friday and/or Saturday= night, we would recommend the Western Inn located at 1191 East Foothill Blv= d., Upland, CA approximately 4 to 5 miles from Cable.  Their web addres= s is http://www.venquest.com/westerninnupland.  The Western Inn is clea= n and accessible with restaurants nearby.  The Western Inn has a "Cable= Airport" discount of $59 for a single king or two queen beds and $69-$79 fo= r more upscale accommodations.  These are excellent prices for the Sout= hern California area. 

The Western Inn's reservation phone number is 800-726-2955 (Internet Hotel H= otline), and their local number is 909-949-4800.  Reservations can also= be made directly through Western Inn's website.  The Western Inn does=20= not have Cable Airport pickup, but our SoCAL group might be able to provide=20= complimentary ground transportation for you.  Please contact Bill Palme= r at wmpalm@aol.com as soon as possible to request complimentary transportat= ion between Cable Airport and the Western Inn.  Also, there are two tax= i companies serving the area: Yellow Cab, 909-622-1313, and Dell Cab, 800-34= 0-8294.

FOOD and DRINK:

For morning arrivals, we will have FREE donuts, rolls, juice, and coffee.&nb= sp; For lunch, the Cable EAA Chapter will have their food booth with reasona= bly priced food and drink.   Cable also has an excellent airport r= estaurant, Maniac Mike's Caf=E9, for more "gourmet" fare at reasonable price= s.  We will have a shuttle van to take people to the south side of the=20= airport where Maniac Mike's Caf=E9 is located. 

Please DO NOT walk across the runway but please DO use our shuttle van.

SHELTER, SEATING, SWAPS, AND OTHER STUFF:

Shade and seating will be under the new 60 X 60 shade hangar that is used as= an aircraft wash rack.  We will have the food booth, Clearair Tools to= ol demo area, and an area to sell / swap any of your RV-related parts. = We would like to have a Tee Shirt vendor on site to sell 2003 SoCAL RV Rend= ezVous shirts and are working to find one. 

Note: You might want to bring some suntan lotion, or sunscreen, if you plan=20= to do a lot of gawking at the RVs out on the ramp!

SAFETY AND SECURITY:

Our Safety and Security Officer is Gary Hart.  In case of any problems,= Gary will be able to contact local law enforcement, the local fire departme= nt, healthcare, etc. 

Note: Gary Hart has the "Final Word" with respect to RendezVous safety! = ; All RendezVous participants are expected to follow Gary's guidance to ensu= re a Safe, Good Time!

Important: We have no "event" insurance, since this is an informal "get toge= ther" for RV folks only and is not a "public" fly-in, so you're self-insured= . 

All flying and ground operations are at your own risk/insurance.  Altho= ugh Gary, and other SoCAL volunteers, will be available to help you, your sa= fety and security is ultimately your own responsibility!

RSVP:

If you're planning to come to the RendezVous (75% sure, anyway!), please RSV= P via a reply to SoCAL_RendezVous@yahoo.com with your estimated number of pe= ople in your group and vehicles (autos or aircraft) so that we can get a rou= gh idea of how many people and vehicles might be arriving.  This will h= elp us with aircraft and auto parking preparations, food and drink amounts,=20= etc.  THANKS!

QUESTIONS:

If you have any questions, please contact Bill Palmer at wmpalm@aol.com, and= we'll try to provide an answer, or at least an opinion!  Note: Our res= ponses are at your own risk!

SUMMARY:

No Judging, No Trophies, No Schedule, No Fees, No Hassles - - Just Mutual RV= Admiration and FUN!

We'll look forward to seeing you on Saturday, Nov.1 at Cable Airport!!! = ; RVs FOREVER!!!

Best Regards,

Gary Sobek
SoCAL RV RendezVous Chairman
EAA Technical Counselor, AB DAR-elect
RV-6 N157GS

Bill Palmer
RendezVous Marketing and Communications Officer
RV-8A QB In-Progress
 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:04:59 AM PST US From: "Dr. Leathers" Subject: RV-List: Cub clone --> RV-List message posted by: "Dr. Leathers" Hello All, A friend of mine is asking if anyone knows of a kitplane which is a Piper Cub clone? Possibly made somewhere in Idaho?? TIA Doc
Hello All,
 
A friend of mine is asking if anyone knows of a kitplane which is a Piper Cub clone? Possibly made somewhere in Idaho??
 
TIA
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________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:18:57 AM PST US Subject: RV-List: Duplicates and Extra HTML in List Messages Solved!!! From: "Matt Dralle" aeroelectric-list@matronics.com, yak-list@matronics.com --> RV-List message posted by: "Matt Dralle" Dear Listers, Well, I apologize. I discovered today why the extra HTML tags and odd repeating of messages was occuring. About 1-2 weeks ago I was troubleshooting a different problem and had commented out the section in the incoming message filter that strips out MIME enclosures and other HTML data. Duh, then I forgot to put it back! Other filters were stripping out a good deal of the stuff, but still some stuff was getting through! I've reinstated the MIME filter and things should be back to normal as of about 11am pdt on Saturday. Again, my apologies!!! Best regards, Matt Dralle List Admin. -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle@matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:10:12 PM PST US Subject: RV-List: Closing fiberglass Tips From: "" --> RV-List message posted by: "" On the subject of glassing tips...what kind of foam are most using to lay the glass against? Floral foam? balsa wood? Or is there something more suitable for the application (where do I get it if so)? Thanks in advances, Scott 7A Emp/Wings Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:18:43 PM PST US From: "Karie Daniel" Subject: Re: RV-List: Cub clone --> RV-List message posted by: "Karie Daniel" If he's a good friend you would give him Vans number. :-) DO NOT ARCHIVE. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dr. Leathers" Subject: RV-List: Cub clone > --> RV-List message posted by: "Dr. Leathers" > > > Hello All, > > A friend of mine is asking if anyone knows of a kitplane which is a > Piper Cub clone? Possibly made somewhere in Idaho?? > > TIA > Doc > > > > > > > > Hello All, > > A friend of mine is asking if anyone > knows of a > kitplane which is a Piper Cub clone? Possibly made somewhere in > Idaho?? > > TIA > Doc > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:48:07 PM PST US From: Mark Phillips Subject: Re: RV-List: Closing fiberglass Tips --> RV-List message posted by: Mark Phillips I used blue Dow styrofoam insulation board scrap I had laying around- it's about 1/2" thick and has a very fine texture- rigid, easy to trim, carve, sand etc... Has a plastic film on it that easily peels off- and I did close out my tips! From The PossumWorks in TN Mark tx_jayhawk@excite.com wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "" > > > On the subject of glassing tips...what kind of foam are most using to lay the glass against? Floral foam? balsa wood? Or is there something more suitable for the application (where do I get it if so)? > > Thanks in advances, > > Scott > 7A Emp/Wings > > > Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com > The most personalized portal on the Web! > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 03:34:23 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV-List: Landoll Balancer From: Don Diehl --> RV-List message posted by: Don Diehl > Does anyone have experience with both the 12 Lb ring and the 12 lb > balancer > sold by Mark Landoll. I'm going to put one of them on my RV-4 and I'm > not > sure if I should go the extra $300 and put on the balancer. My > primary > reason for adding the part is to get some weight up front, I'm running > a > wood prop and lightweight starter and could use some extra weight up > front > when carrying a passenger to reduce pitch sensitivity. If the balancer > makes a big difference in vibration and idle speed i'll put it on. > > > Pat Perry > Dallas, PA > RV-4 N154PK Flies great! > I put the Landoll balancer/damper on my O-320E2D, 150 h.p. wood prop. It idles smoothly at 600 r.p.m. so generates less thrust on landing roll out. I weigh 140 lb so it puts some weight where it's needed. Would I do it again? You bet. Don Diehl Bremerton WA RV-4, N28EW 240 happy hours Do not archive ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 03:42:54 PM PST US From: Richard Lundin Subject: Re: RV-List: Closing fiberglass Tips --> RV-List message posted by: Richard Lundin I used balsa wood glassed with epoxy resind on both inner and outer surfaces. I had the balsa from R/C airplane building. Rick --- Mark Phillips wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: Mark Phillips > > > I used blue Dow styrofoam insulation board scrap I > had laying around- > it's about 1/2" thick and has a very fine texture- > rigid, easy to trim, > carve, sand etc... Has a plastic film on it that > easily peels off- and > I did close out my tips! > > From The PossumWorks in TN > Mark > > tx_jayhawk@excite.com wrote: > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "" > > > > > > > On the subject of glassing tips...what kind of > foam are most using to lay the glass against? > Floral foam? balsa wood? Or is there something more > suitable for the application (where do I get it if > so)? > > > > Thanks in advances, > > > > Scott > > 7A Emp/Wings > > > > > > Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com > > The most personalized portal on the Web! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Contributions > any other > Forums. > > http://www.matronics.com/trouble-report > > http://www.matronics.com/subscription > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV-List.htm > http://www.matronics.com/archives > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > http://www.matronics.com/trouble-report > > > > > __________________________________ ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 03:50:25 PM PST US From: Richard Lundin Subject: Re: RV-List: Cub clone --> RV-List message posted by: Richard Lundin There are two I know of one is Kubkits in FL #866-582-5487 and the other is www.supercubkits.ca #519-461-0274 they are in canada eh. Nothing like 500 ft with the window open, smelling the fields moving slowly beneath your cub. Well except...... Rick --- Karie Daniel wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Karie Daniel" > > > If he's a good friend you would give him Vans > number. :-) > > > DO NOT ARCHIVE. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dr. Leathers" > To: > Subject: RV-List: Cub clone > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Dr. Leathers" > > > > > > > Hello All, > > > > A friend of mine is asking if anyone knows of a > kitplane which is a > > Piper Cub clone? Possibly made somewhere in > Idaho?? > > > > TIA > > Doc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello All, > > > > A friend of mine is asking if anyone > > knows of a > > kitplane which is a Piper Cub clone? Possibly made > somewhere in > > Idaho?? > > > > TIA > > Doc > > > > > > > > Contributions > any other > Forums. > > http://www.matronics.com/trouble-report > > http://www.matronics.com/subscription > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV-List.htm > http://www.matronics.com/archives > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > http://www.matronics.com/trouble-report > > > > > __________________________________ ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 05:24:48 PM PST US From: Charlie & Tupper England Subject: RV-List: Slobovia Outernational Airport Party Invitation --> RV-List message posted by: Charlie & Tupper England Hello all (who aren't heading for LOE next weekend), Please remember your invitation to our party one week from today at Slobovia Outernational, just north of Jackson MS. You are all cordially invited to the next flyin lunch/supper/all-weekend-long hangar party at Slobovia Outernational Airport, 10 miles north of Jackson MS on October 17-19, 2003. If flying fun isn't enough reason to party, it's wedding anniversary time for two families here, so come & help us celebrate. Overnighters are welcome any time after noon on Friday, and are welcome to stay through Sunday. Bring your bed roll and if desired, a tent. We have lots of indoor floor space & even more outdoor tent space, so come on down! We had a great turnout in July with about 45 planes, including around 25 RV's. We are hoping for at least twice that number in October. The noon meal on Saturday will again be 'pulled pork', thanks to the wonderful wives here in our strange corner of the universe. If you can stay for the hangar party Saturday night, we plan on having 'Chili & Blues' with a live band for entertainment. Bring your dancin' shoes. You can get info about our airport at airnav.com http://www.airnav.com/airport/MS71 Update: runway length is now 4800 feet. Disclaimer: Slobovia is a private airport. Pilots operate at their own risk. If you need driving directions or more info, feel free to email me at cengland@netdoor.com or call at 601-879-9596. FAA Identifier: MS71 Lat/Long: 32-29-42.508N / 090-17-34.325W 32-29.70847N / 090-17.57208W 32.4951411 / -90.2928681 (estimated) Elevation: 250 ft. / 76 m (estimated) Variation: 03E (1985) From city: 1 mile N of POCAHONTAS, MS Airport Operations Airport use: Private use. Permission required prior to landing Sectional chart: MEMPHIS UNICOM: 122.75 Runway Information Runway 15/33 Dimensions: 3540 x 80 ft. / 1079 x 24 m Surface: turf RUNWAY 15 RUNWAY 33 Traffic pattern: left left Obstructions: 70 ft. trees, 200 ft. from approach end of 33 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 05:48:52 PM PST US From: "Jeff Orear" Subject: Re: RV-List: Closing fiberglass Tips --> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Orear" Me too Rick. Worked great. The RC days do come in handy at times.....What ever material you use to lay up the fiberglass, be sure to lay up a few layers on the inside of the tip you are working on to help prevent cracks where the manufactured fiberglass ends and your layup begins. Also, I used talcum powder mixed with resin to fill the weave of the glass cloth. Sands easily, and makes your shop smell nice and fresh too! Regards, Jeff Orear RV6A finish kit Peshtigo, WI ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Lundin" Subject: Re: RV-List: Closing fiberglass Tips > --> RV-List message posted by: Richard Lundin > > > I used balsa wood glassed with epoxy resind on both > inner and outer surfaces. I had the balsa from R/C > airplane building. > Rick > > > --- Mark Phillips wrote: > > --> RV-List message posted by: Mark Phillips > > > > > > I used blue Dow styrofoam insulation board scrap I > > had laying around- > > it's about 1/2" thick and has a very fine texture- > > rigid, easy to trim, > > carve, sand etc... Has a plastic film on it that > > easily peels off- and > > I did close out my tips! > > > > From The PossumWorks in TN > > Mark > > > > tx_jayhawk@excite.com wrote: > > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "" > > > > > > > > > > > On the subject of glassing tips...what kind of > > foam are most using to lay the glass against? > > Floral foam? balsa wood? Or is there something more > > suitable for the application (where do I get it if > > so)? > > > > > > Thanks in advances, > > > > > > Scott > > > 7A Emp/Wings > > > > > > > > > Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com > > > The most personalized portal on the Web! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Contributions > > any other > > Forums. > > > > http://www.matronics.com/trouble-report > > > > http://www.matronics.com/subscription > > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV-List.htm > > http://www.matronics.com/archives > > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare > > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > http://www.matronics.com/trouble-report > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > >