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1. 12:57 AM - Fw: flying humor Not RV related (Bob Hodgson)
2. 04:54 AM - Re: RV-10 vs. Bonanza ref. LOE3 (Dana Overall)
3. 06:34 AM - Re: Fw: flying humor Not RV related (Elsa & Henry)
4. 07:05 AM - Nigel Marshall (terence.gannon@telus.net)
5. 07:12 AM - Re: RV-6 Jig Available (Elsa & Henry)
6. 07:23 AM - Re: Fw: flying humor Not RV related (Wayne Reese)
7. 07:39 AM - RV-7 QB (Kip Haas)
8. 08:33 AM - Spinner Cutout Template (Bill VonDane)
9. 08:34 AM - Alternator (Bill VonDane)
10. 10:08 AM - Plane bench from Fuselage Jig (Vince Himsl)
11. 10:44 AM - Re: Alternator (Jim Oke)
12. 02:08 PM - Re: Fw: flying humor Not RV related (Tedd McHenry)
13. 03:22 PM - Re: Spinner Cutout Template (Scott Brumbelow)
14. 04:21 PM - Re: Fw: flying humor Not RV related (Harvey Sigmon)
15. 05:06 PM - Capacitance-voltage converter from Van's (Ken Simmons)
16. 05:47 PM - RV7 Tank to Leading Edge Fit Question (Dwight Frye)
17. 06:04 PM - Re: RV-7 QB (Noel & Yoshie Simmons)
18. 06:11 PM - B&C regulator for sale (Bob Bittner)
19. 06:11 PM - RendezVous Reminder! (WMPALM@aol.com)
20. 07:29 PM - Re: Fw: flying humor Not RV related (RV_8 Pilot)
21. 08:11 PM - Re: RV7 Tank to Leading Edge Fit Question (Dan Checkoway)
22. 08:45 PM - Re: RV-7 QB (Noel & Yoshie Simmons)
23. 11:32 PM - oil cooler flow direction (Dan Checkoway)
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| Subject: | Fw: flying humor Not RV related |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Hodgson" <bob@hodgson252.freeserve.co.uk>
That one was PanAm and KLM at Tenerife in 1977 (Sloppy R/T).
Not humorous at all!
See http://aviation-safety.net/specials/tenerife/spanish-2.htm
Bob
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----- Original Message -----
> Time: 05:56:02 PM PST US
> From: "Wayne Reese" <waynereese@qwest.net>
> Subject: RE: RV-List:
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> --> RV-List message posted by: "Wayne Reese" <waynereese@qwest.net>
>
> Wasn't that two 747, the worst aviation accident in history?
> Wayne
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of racker@rmci.net
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Fw: flying humor Not RV related
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: <racker@rmci.net>
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> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Ken Stribling" <ken@soundsuckers.com>
> > do not archive
> >
> > By the way, Qantas is the only major airline that has never
> > had an accident.
>
> Only if you don't call wrecking a 747 an accident <g>.
>
> Rob Acker (RV-6 flying)
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 vs. Bonanza ref. LOE3 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Newman" <newmanb@rocketmail.com>
>
>
>I agree, and the RV-10's rear legroom is almost too generous, if such a
>thing
>is possible. But the baggage space is less than the Bonanza/Debonair (too
>little for a 4 seat touring machine IMO), and it carries an hour's less
>fuel.
>
>Best Regards,
>Bob
The thing I would look at is just how many times do you actually have four
people in the airplane for an extended tour. With the way the seat backs on
the 10 come out, it makes for a cavernous luggage storage area. My bladder
anymore, not the fuel on board, is my distance limiting factor:-)
I like my Bo but I like the 10 more.
Dana Overall
Richmond, KY
RV-7 slider/fuselage, Imron black, "Black Magic"
Finish kit ordered!! Buying Instruments. Hangar flying my Dynon.
http://rvflying.tripod.com
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: flying humor Not RV related |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Elsa & Henry" <elsa-henry@darlor-watch.com>
>>Wasn't that two 747, the worst aviation accident in history?
That wasn't Qantas. The two 747s involved were in a runway collision in
dense fog in Tenerife (Canary Islands)when a KLM 747 Made a runway incursion
as a Pan-AM one was rolling down the runway on take off. it was barely
airborne when it slammed into the KLM.
Cheers!!--Henry Hore
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--> RV-List message posted by: terence.gannon@telus.net
I'm trying to get in touch with Nigel Marshall, and RV-4 builder near Paris,
France. If you're still on this list, please contact me, off list...thanx!!
Terry in Calgary
RV-6 S/N 24414
"Fuselage"
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| Subject: | Re: RV-6 Jig Available |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Elsa & Henry" <elsa-henry@darlor-watch.com>
Dave,
If you have no takers, it will make a good table. Just cut the side beams
behind the F606 cross-member and put the rear legs there and cover it with a
sheet of ply-wood.-Voila!
Cheers!! Henry Hore
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| Subject: | Fw: flying humor Not RV related |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Wayne Reese" <waynereese@qwest.net>
I sure agree with that.
I was just trying to get the facts straight, which you have done.
Sorry
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Hodgson
Subject: RV-List: Fw: flying humor Not RV related
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Hodgson"
<bob@hodgson252.freeserve.co.uk>
That one was PanAm and KLM at Tenerife in 1977 (Sloppy R/T).
Not humorous at all!
See http://aviation-safety.net/specials/tenerife/spanish-2.htm
Bob
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----- Original Message -----
> Time: 05:56:02 PM PST US
> From: "Wayne Reese" <waynereese@qwest.net>
> Subject: RE: RV-List:
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Wayne Reese" <waynereese@qwest.net>
>
> Wasn't that two 747, the worst aviation accident in history?
> Wayne
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
racker@rmci.net
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Fw: flying humor Not RV related
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: <racker@rmci.net>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Ken Stribling"
<ken@soundsuckers.com>
> > do not archive
> >
> > By the way, Qantas is the only major airline that has never
> > had an accident.
>
> Only if you don't call wrecking a 747 an accident <g>.
>
> Rob Acker (RV-6 flying)
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Kip Haas" <kiphaas@firstam.com>
I have an RV-7 QB for sale (delivered in July), It includes a tail kit that has
been drilled, dimpled and deburred, but not rivited. It also includes a partial
RV-8 tail. The QB is in a hanger in Corona, Ca. I am moving out of state and
I do not have a place for the plane. Please email me with your offers.
Thanks,
-Kip
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| Subject: | Spinner Cutout Template |
vansairforce <vansairforce@yahoogroups.com>
--> RV-List message posted by: Bill VonDane <bill@vondane.com>
Anyone know where I can get a Hartzell Spinner Cutout template?
-Bill VonDane
RV-8A
www.vondane.com
www.creativair.com
www.epanelbuilder.com
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vansairforce <vansairforce@yahoogroups.com>
--> RV-List message posted by: Bill VonDane <bill@vondane.com>
Oh yeah, and I need a diagram of how to wire up the internally regulated alternator
that comes on Bart's engines...
Thanks!
-Bill VonDane
RV-8A
www.vondane.com
www.creativair.com
www.epanelbuilder.com
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| Subject: | Plane bench from Fuselage Jig |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Vince Himsl" <vhimsl@turbonet.com>
Hello,
For those of you who, like me, haven't been blessed with the jigless kits, don't
be so hasty to get rid of your jig. I
used the lumber from mine to construct a long bench about stool height to go along
side of the fuselage so that with the
plane mounted on saw horses or on the axles and wheels, I can still work on the
inside of the cockpit at the recommended
'navel' height.
The parts from my RV-8 jig are enough to do two benches (I only made one). Also,
when the plane is done, you can continue
to use it for those times when you need to do something in the cockpit besides
fly.
Unfortunately, my wife was so impressed that mine will going on the deck.
Regards,
Vince Himsl
RV8-SB Finish
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--> RV-List message posted by: Jim Oke <wjoke@shaw.ca>
Bill;
Absolutely dead simple. Run a heavy B+ wire from the alternator output back
to wherever the power is going. Run a lightweight wire from a +12V power
source forward to the regulator "in" terminal. That's is all you need to get
the alternator going.
If you get fancy, there is an alternator fail "idiot" connection on the
regulator that you can use if desired. Run this from the terminal through a
small light bulb to the battery or power distribution buss. (The terminal
rises to + V when the alternator is going so the light bulb see the same
voltage at each side so no current flows and the bulb stays dark. If the
alternator fails, the terminal drops to ground, the bulb sees + 12V on one
side and ground on the other - current flows and lights up the bulb.)
Over-voltage protection and how to deal with killing the alternator if it
fails in different ways is discussed at great length on the "aero-electric
connection" list.
Jim Oke
RV-6A C-GKGZ
(running an Aerosport alternator)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com>
<vansairforce@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RV-List: Alternator
> --> RV-List message posted by: Bill VonDane <bill@vondane.com>
>
> Oh yeah, and I need a diagram of how to wire up the internally regulated
alternator that comes on Bart's engines...
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> -Bill VonDane
> RV-8A
> www.vondane.com
> www.creativair.com
> www.epanelbuilder.com
>
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: flying humor Not RV related |
--> RV-List message posted by: Tedd McHenry <tedd@vansairforce.org>
> That wasn't Qantas. The two 747s involved were in a runway collision in
> dense fog in Tenerife (Canary Islands)when a KLM 747 Made a runway incursion
> as a Pan-AM one was rolling down the runway on take off. it was barely
> airborne when it slammed into the KLM.
It was the other way around: KLM on the roll and Pan-Am taxiing. KLM was not
cleared for take-off. Pan-Am was cleared to taxi down the runway. There was
no runway incursion, it was an unauthorized take-off.
Tedd McHenry
Surrey, BC
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| Subject: | Re: Spinner Cutout Template |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Brumbelow <csbrumbelow@fedex.com>
Bill - email me back your address and I will send you one. The starting point
was what Eustace Bowhay sent me (so thanks to him for making it easy for me
and now you). I have the "new" Hartzell prop from Vans, and while the tips are
different, I am guessing the blades are not much if any different at the
spinner end.
I think what I have will get you close, but please be forwarned that you will
still need to do some final fit work, and more importantly, you may desire
clearances that are different than mine. What I will be sending is a
representation of pretty much the "final" fit as I took a tracing of the
openings after I was satisfied with the fit.
csb
Bill VonDane wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Bill VonDane <bill@vondane.com>
>
> Anyone know where I can get a Hartzell Spinner Cutout template?
>
> -Bill VonDane
> RV-8A
> www.vondane.com
> www.creativair.com
> www.epanelbuilder.com
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: flying humor Not RV related |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Harvey Sigmon" <rv6hes@comcast.net>
I was there the day before this accident happened in a DC-8, it was a
confusing situation as the taxiway was closed for a section repair, which
made it necessary to back taxi on the runway for a distance. The runway had
some light fog which it usually does that time of the year. Our crew made a
comment as it was a place looking for a accident, the PAN AM crew saw it
coming and tried to clear the runway but it was too late, as the KLM was
rolling. Some language confusion contributed to what happened. My view
only.
Harvey Sigmon RV-6A flying Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tedd McHenry" <tedd@vansairforce.org>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Fw: flying humor Not RV related
> --> RV-List message posted by: Tedd McHenry <tedd@vansairforce.org>
>
> > That wasn't Qantas. The two 747s involved were in a runway collision in
> > dense fog in Tenerife (Canary Islands)when a KLM 747 Made a runway
incursion
> > as a Pan-AM one was rolling down the runway on take off. it was barely
> > airborne when it slammed into the KLM.
>
> It was the other way around: KLM on the roll and Pan-Am taxiing. KLM was
not
> cleared for take-off. Pan-Am was cleared to taxi down the runway. There
was
> no runway incursion, it was an unauthorized take-off.
>
> Tedd McHenry
> Surrey, BC
>
>
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| Subject: | Capacitance-voltage converter from Van's |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ken Simmons" <ken@truckstop.com>
Anyone have any numbers on output voltage from the Capacitance-voltage converter
that Van's sells for the EI fuel gage (i.e. volts when empty and volts when
full)?
I believe this would work with other meters, but it would make the determination
easier if I knew the specs.
Thanks.
Ken
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| Subject: | RV7 Tank to Leading Edge Fit Question |
--> RV-List message posted by: Dwight Frye <dwight@openweave.org>
It may be that I'm being too picky here, but I want input on a tank to
leading edge fit issue I've run into. On the right side the fit is
absolutely perfect. On the left side I have a small difference between
the forward-most part of the skin on the tank and the forward-most
part of the skin on the leading edge.
The difference is about the thickness of the tank skin, so maybe I am
being too picky, but I wanted to hear what folks had to say about the
issue. If you look at http://www.openweave.org/RV7/showissue.php you
can see a web page with pictures of the situation. There are two pictures
there .. one showing the general area of concern, and the other showing
a closeup of the skins and the "gap" I'm seeing.
I did check with Van's and they said that _maybe_ a shim was called
for to bump up the leading edge skin a bit, but even then seemed to
think that it wasn't a big deal.
Anyone have any advice here? Or should I just press on and not worry
about it? Enquiring minds want to know. :)
-- Dwight
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Noel & Yoshie Simmons" <noel@blueskyaviation.net>
Kip,
I sent your e-mail to my partner and here is his questions.
is that a complete QB rv7 ? with finishing kit also? i have a cessna 140
with zero timed eng, by magnum engines of ohio. painted in L-19 colors
with army markings. it has 720 com, garmin gps. txp. mode c , 800-6 new
tires , and tubes. new stainless brake lines slick mags. it is a trouble
free plane that you can fly 2000 hrs with little expense. you can see the
plane on trade a plane. im asking 25000 or trade for complete rv kit.
thank you
Noel / Gary
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Kip Haas
Subject: RV-List: RV-7 QB
--> RV-List message posted by: "Kip Haas" <kiphaas@firstam.com>
I have an RV-7 QB for sale (delivered in July), It includes a tail kit that
has been drilled, dimpled and deburred, but not rivited. It also includes a
partial RV-8 tail. The QB is in a hanger in Corona, Ca. I am moving out of
state and I do not have a place for the plane. Please email me with your
offers.
Thanks,
-Kip
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| Subject: | B&C regulator for sale |
10/21/2003 08:10:23 PM,
Serialize complete at 10/21/2003 08:10:23 PM
--> RV-List message posted by: Bob Bittner <rbittner@us.ibm.com>
Hi all.
I ordered a B&C LR-3 14V alternator controller / OV protection, but I'm
going to use an internally regulated alternator instead. It's still
new-in-box, unopened condition. I could send it back to Aircraft Spruce,
but I thought I might just as well see if anyone here wants it. I can
ship it to you without sales tax or shipping charge (pay via PayPal) and
probably a bit sooner... otherwise, I'll just send it back to AS.
Bob B
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| Subject: | RendezVous Reminder! |
--> RV-List message posted by: WMPALM@aol.com
EVENT: SoCAL RV RendezVous
DATE: Saturday, Nov. 1, 2003
TIME: 9am to 4pm
LOCATION: Cable Airport (KCCB), Upland, CA (http://www.cableairport.com)
FLY-IN PROCEDURES:
Cable Airport is a family-owned, RV-friendly airport with easy VFR access
from the northwest and northeast (north of Ontario) as well as relatively easy
access from the south and southwest past Corona and west of the Chino and
Brackett Airports. Be sure to contact the Chino and Brackett towers for permission
to fly through their airspace if you so chose. Please comply with all
airspace restrictions and steer-clear of Ontario's airspace unless you're talking
to
ATC. We definitely want to have a violation-free day and maintain good
relations with all air traffic control facilities/personnel.
Note: A moving map GPS with airspace boundary depiction is highly
recommended.
SoCAL airspace permits good VFR access, but you do need to know exactly where
and how high you are relative to controlled airspace. Also, please keep a
wary eye out for airborne traffic. The traffic is not as thick as popularly
rumored, but SoCAL is a nice place to fly for all, and many RVs will be flying
into Cable as well.
Cable is an uncontrolled airport but does have published recommended VFR
arrival and departure procedures which you should review (see Cable's website and
your flight guide). Also, please be neighbor-friendly by keeping noise down.
VFR arrival and departure procedures for Cable airport can be found at
http://www.cableairport.com/images/vfr24.gif for runway 24 (most likely runway with
prevailing winds from the west) and at
http://www.cableairport.com/images/vfr6.gif for runway 6.
Please note that the Cable traffic pattern is left turns only - - No
straight-ins or outs! No formation takeoffs, No buzz jobs, No fooling around!
Flybys
are restricted to pattern altitude, and flyby aircraft must yield to any
aircraft in the standard traffic pattern. Be particularly watchful for crosswind
approach traffic!
PLEASE NO LOW FLYBYS!
All FARs must be observed. An FAA representative who is also building an RV
will be on the airport and could potentially issue violations for unsafe
actions. If you wish to do a flyby, please remain at pattern altitude and watch
carefully for traffic.
After landing, you will exit off the runway to the NORTH side of the runway
then taxi WEST. As you taxi westbound, please look for our RV RendezVous taxi
and parking guides - - they'll have vests, wands, etc. and will help direct
you to the next available parking spot.
Please bring your own wheel chocks as we will be parking RVs on the old
crosswind runway/taxiway that has a slight slope. Non-RV aircraft will be parked
parallel to and facing the active runway near the RV parking. Tie-down chains
are available for those aircraft parking along the runway.
FORMATION FLYING:
If you are interested in formation flying (who isn't?), please contact Gary
Sobek for further information and coordination: RV6_Flyer@hotmail.com. You
must be a qualified, experienced RV formation flyer and comply with all Cable
Airport flight procedures/restrictions as well as FAA regulations.
WEATHER ALTERNATES:
In the unlikely event that Cable Airport is not sunny and clear on the
morning of Nov. 1 as usual, our VFR weather alternates are: #1 Agua Dulce Airpark
(L70) and #2: Apple Valley (KAPV). Both Agua Dulce and Apple Valley are well
equipped with ramp space, food, and avgas to handle lots of fly-ins.
If Cable is IFR, Paul and Victoria Rosales (cell 661 433-6056) will be at
Agua Dulce to greet arrivals there. Paul and Victoria will be in contact with
the RendezVous crew at Cable to get the latest weather information. We don't
plan to have anyone stationed at Apple Valley, but Paul and Victoria will fly
there if Agua Dulce is socked in (which only happens "once in a blue moon!").
NOTE: All drive-ins should proceed to Cable Airport, because we will have
Cable-stationed RVs on-hand regardless of weather.
DRIVE-IN DIRECTIONS:
Ground-bound RV enthusiasts, particularly RV builders and potential builders,
are encouraged to attend! Cable Airport is located north of the I-10 freeway
in Upland, CA. Take I-10's Central Avenue exit NORTH past Montclair Plaza.=20
At the end of Central Ave. (1.3 miles from I-10) turn RIGHT (EAST) on Foothill
Blvd. (Historic Route 66). (There's a traffic light there.) Travel EAST on
Foothill to the next traffic light. Turn LEFT (NORTH) at the light onto
Benson Ave. (There's a "76" Gasoline/Car Wash Plaza on the left, and on the right
you'll see a Carl's Jr. and an "Old-Style" McDonald's across the
intersection.)
Continue NORTH on Benson Ave. past the Lowe's on your left and PAST the main
entrance to Cable Airport at the 13TH Street (first) traffic light. Continue
PAST the second traffic light and you should see a Fire Station on the right.
After you pass the Fire Station (the runway will be on your left), you will
make a LEFT (WEST) turn at the next opportunity (Howard Access Road) onto Cable
Airport.
There is a sign that says "Holliday Rock Quarry" at this entrance. Drive
through the gate onto the airport. Continue WEST via the taxiway between the
hangars and keep your speed down to 5 mph or less.
AIRCRAFT HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY!
Give way to aircraft by pulling over to the right and stopping until the
aircraft passes. Also, be careful to slow down before any open hangar to make
sure that aircraft, people, or vehicles are not exiting the hangar. At the end
of the row of hangars, you will be directed to parking. Look for the SoCAL=20RV
signs and our RendezVous parking guides.
OVERNIGHT STAY:
If you are flying in from a distance and plan to stay Friday and/or Saturday
night, we would recommend the Western Inn located at 1191 East Foothill Blvd.,
Upland, CA approximately 4 to 5 miles from Cable. Their web address is
http://www.venquest.com/westerninnupland. The Western Inn is clean and accessible
with restaurants nearby. The Western Inn has a "Cable Airport" discount of
$59 for a single king or two queen beds and $69-$79 for more upscale
accommodations. These are excellent prices for the Southern California area.
The Western Inn's reservation phone number is 800-726-2955 (Internet Hotel
Hotline), and their local number is 909-949-4800. Reservations can also be=20made
directly through Western Inn's website. The Western Inn does not have Cable
Airport pickup, but our SoCAL group might be able to provide complimentary
ground transportation for you. Please contact Bill Palmer at wmpalm@aol.com as
soon as possible to request complimentary transportation between Cable Airport
and the Western Inn. Also, there are two taxi companies serving the area:
Yellow Cab, 909-622-1313, and Dell Cab, 800-340-8294.
FOOD and DRINK:
For morning arrivals, we will have FREE donuts, rolls, juice, and coffee.
For lunch, the Cable EAA Chapter will have their food booth with reasonably
priced food and drink. Cable also has an excellent airport restaurant, Maniac
Mike's Caf=E9, for more "gourmet" fare at reasonable prices. We will have a
shuttle van to take people to the south side of the airport where Maniac Mike's
Caf=E9 is located.
Please DO NOT walk across the runway but please DO use our shuttle van.
Note: Maniac Mike's Caf=E9 is also hosting an antique aircraft fly-in on Nov.
1-2, so you should be able to see some interesting airplanes near the
restaurant!
SHELTER, SEATING, SWAPS, AND OTHER STUFF:
Shade and seating will be under the new 60 X 60 shade hangar that is used as
an aircraft wash rack. We will have the food booth, Clearair Tools tool demo
area, and an area to sell / swap any of your RV-related parts. We would like
to have a Tee Shirt vendor on site to sell 2003 SoCAL RV RendezVous shirts and
are working to find one.
Note: You might want to bring some suntan lotion, or sunscreen, if you plan
to do a lot of gawking at the RVs out on the ramp!
SAFETY AND SECURITY:
Our Safety and Security Officer is Gary Hart. In case of any problems, Gary
will be able to contact local law enforcement, the local fire department,
healthcare, etc.
Note: Gary Hart has the "Final Word" with respect to RendezVous safety! All
RendezVous participants are expected to follow Gary's guidance to ensure a
Safe, Good Time!
Important: We have no "event" insurance, since this is an informal "get
together" for RV folks only and is not a "public" fly-in, so you're self-insured.
All flying and ground operations are at your own risk/insurance. Although
Gary, and other SoCAL volunteers, will be available to help you, your safety and
security is ultimately your own responsibility!
RSVP:
If you're planning to come to the RendezVous (75% sure, anyway!), please RSVP
via a reply to SoCAL_RendezVous@yahoo.com with your estimated number of
people in your group and vehicles (autos or aircraft) so that we can get a rough
idea of how many people and vehicles might be arriving. This will help us with
aircraft and auto parking preparations, food and drink amounts, etc. THANKS!
QUESTIONS:
If you have any questions, please contact Bill Palmer at wmpalm@aol.com, and
we'll try to provide an answer, or at least an opinion! Note: Our responses
are at your own risk!
SUMMARY:
No Judging, No Trophies, No Schedule, No Fees, No Hassles - - Just Mutual RV
Admiration and FUN!
We'll look forward to seeing you on Saturday, Nov.1 at Cable Airport!!! RVs
FOREVER!!!
Best Regards,
Gary Sobek
SoCAL RV RendezVous Chairman
EAA Technical Counselor, AB DAR-elect
RV-6 N157GS
Bill Palmer
RendezVous Marketing and Communications Officer
RV-8A QB In-Progress
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: flying humor Not RV related |
--> RV-List message posted by: "RV_8 Pilot" <rv_8pilot@hotmail.com>
Unauthorized alright. The FO objected, understanding they were to hold. He
spoke up but the capt pressed on anyway. Theory is he was concered about
the delay after fueling due to fog.
Bryan Jones -8
Pearland, Texas
do not archive
> > That wasn't Qantas. The two 747s involved were in a runway collision in
> > dense fog in Tenerife (Canary Islands)when a KLM 747 Made a runway
>incursion
> > as a Pan-AM one was rolling down the runway on take off. it was barely
> > airborne when it slammed into the KLM.
>
>It was the other way around: KLM on the roll and Pan-Am taxiing. KLM was
>not
>cleared for take-off. Pan-Am was cleared to taxi down the runway. There
>was
>no runway incursion, it was an unauthorized take-off.
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| Subject: | Re: RV7 Tank to Leading Edge Fit Question |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
> It may be that I'm being too picky here, but I want input on a tank to
> leading edge fit issue I've run into. On the right side the fit is
Dwight,
Another builder had this very same problem recently...he mentioned that
Van's suggested grinding down the Z brackets, which I thought was a pretty
bad idea...there are easier ways. Here's the email I sent him. It may or
may not apply in your case.
My assumption is that the problem is in two possible areas, both related to
the rib flanges:
1) Rib-to-baffle flanges. Make sure those puppies are good and square. If
they're even slightly obtuse, they'll push the tank skin forward away from
the baffle. So check 'em and if anything, evenly bend the aft rib flanges
forward very, very slightly. Square is best, but you could "coax" 'em if
you
had to, if you know what I mean.
2) More likely are the flanges at the nose area of each tank rib. If you
had
an experience like I did, I had a hell of time getting those ribs "deep"
enough into the tank to get clecos in (at first). It was a real bitch doing
it. It's *really* easy to elongate the holes, rather than getting the ribs
deep down into the skin. If that happens, then exactly what you've
witnessed
will be the symptom...tank skin will sit further forward and proud of the
leading edge skin. So I think this is 99% likely to be your issue.
My recommendation would be to really make sure your tank ribs are getting
pressed all the way into the tank skin when you cleco 'em. If the holes are
elongated, you might think about ordering new tank ribs. They can't be that
expensive in the grand scheme of things. If the holes are not elongated,
think about "filing round" the nose area of the rib flanges. Essentially,
you've got like 8 or so mini flanges up there, all flat edges. It's best to
file the edges of each flange so that it "approximates a curve" rather than
has lots of flats...know what I mean? Hard to express.
I had a similar fit issue on the front deck/canopy skin area. I had to file
the flanges round on their edges so that the flange edges didn't push the
skin out.
Ok, enough babbling...lemme know if these suggestions help out at all. I'll
be curious to see if they do, and/or what ends up solving the problem.
Best of luck,
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Noel & Yoshie Simmons" <noel@blueskyaviation.net>
Sorry list that message was meant for Kip
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| Subject: | oil cooler flow direction |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
Is there a hard and fast rule about which direction the oil should flow in a
vertically oriented oil cooler? According to Van's fwf kit drawings, the
oil should flow UP through the cooler, flowing into the bottom port and out
of the top port.
Does oil cooling suffer in any way if you reverse the flow, so that the oil
flows into the top port and flows DOWN through the cooler?
Just wanted to get the skinny on this before I decide what my oil cooler
hose setup will be. In some ways it will be much easier to have oil flowing
DOWN through the cooler. The Jihostroj governor bracket really gets in the
way!
Thanks in advance,
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
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