---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 11/09/03: 34 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:02 AM - AnywhereMap airspace warning (mick-matronics@rv8.ch) 2. 02:51 AM - Re: ACS2002 Engine Monitor Analog Module Installation (Richard V. Reynolds) 3. 05:26 AM - Re: Salute to our Mil Aviators (OT) (Mike Plecenik) 4. 07:06 AM - Re: AnywhereMap airspace warning (Sam Buchanan) 5. 07:21 AM - Re: Salute to our Mil Aviators (OT) (Jerry Springer) 6. 08:05 AM - Re:2600 rpm placard (bert murillo) 7. 08:05 AM - Jerry's tall tale, er tail (David Burton) 8. 09:48 AM - Re: Re:2600 rpm placard (jtb1) 9. 10:31 AM - Re: Over the fence at 70 (WPAerial@aol.com) 10. 10:39 AM - OT-Building a RV is going to pay off (Bob Skinner) 11. 11:33 AM - Re: Over the fence at 70 (Kevin Horton) 12. 01:33 PM - Baffle kit instructions needed (Greg Puckett) 13. 01:48 PM - Re: Salute to our Mil Aviators (OT) (Boyd Braem) 14. 02:32 PM - Re: Salute to our Mil Aviators (OT) (Tom Gummo) 15. 03:29 PM - Re: OT-Building a RV is going to pay offNIGERIAN_BODY (2.7 points) Message body has multiple indications of Nigerian spam (C. Rabaut) 16. 03:30 PM - Re: Starter/Starter Relay (kempthornes) 17. 03:43 PM - Re: OT-Building a RV is going to pay offNIGERIAN_BODY (2.7 points) Message body has multiple indications of Nigerian spam (Boyd Braem) 18. 04:03 PM - Re: Salute to our Mil Aviators (OT) (Boyd Braem) 19. 04:04 PM - Re: OT-Building a RV is going to pay offNIGERIAN_BODY (2.7 points) Message body has multiple indications of Nigerian spam (C. Rabaut) 20. 04:48 PM - Is this thing on? (Randy Richter) 21. 04:48 PM - Help - tip-up canopy latch slot dimensions (Gil Alexander) 22. 05:02 PM - Re: Salute to our Mil Aviators (OT) (linn walters) 23. 05:07 PM - Re: Salute to our Mil Heroes (linn walters) 24. 05:32 PM - hartwell latch (Dave Ford) 25. 06:04 PM - Re: hartwell latch (Neil McLeod) 26. 06:42 PM - Alternator Bracket failure (SportAV8R@aol.com) 27. 07:41 PM - Re: Salute to our Mil Heroes (Altoq) 28. 07:57 PM - N9PT First Flight (rmickey@ix.netcom.com) 29. 08:39 PM - Re: Brushing on Iridite 14-2 Question (Dave Smith) 30. 08:43 PM - Re: Salute to our Mil Aviators (OT) (Brett Morawski) 31. 08:54 PM - Canopy samples (Rob W M Shipley) 32. 09:59 PM - Approach Speeds (Jim and Bev Cone) 33. 09:59 PM - A GUIDE TO AIRCRAFT PAINTING & CORROSION CONTROL (Garey Wittich) 34. 10:49 PM - Re: Approach Speeds (Boyd Braem) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:02:22 AM PST US From: mick-matronics@rv8.ch Subject: RV-List: AnywhereMap airspace warning --> RV-List message posted by: mick-matronics@rv8.ch >For those using Control Vision's AnywhereMap you should not rely on it's >Class B & C airspace depictions without verifying it against current >charts. ... This is not new. Unfortunately you should never completely trust any of these new-fangled electronic charts. Remember this warning from the AOPA earlier this year? JEPPESEN REPORTS AIRSPACE BOUNDARY PROBLEMS About 350 airspace boundaries contained in Jeppesen NavData are incorrect, the FAA has warned. The error occurred at Jeppesen after a software upgrade when information was pulled from a database containing 20,000 airspace boundaries worldwide for the March NavData update, which takes effect March 20. Only a dozen are in the United States, including Chicago; Louisville, Kentucky; Fayetteville, North Carolina; Santa Ana, California; Las Vegas; Honolulu; Des Moines; and Oklahoma City. The error could cause pilot alerts to be given by GPS units too early or too late. Pilots are advised to use multiple sources of information, such as carrying paper charts (Jeppesen paper charts are unaffected by the problem), and contacting controlling agencies by radio to avoid airspace violations. Jeppesen has provided a searchable database of locations with airspace boundary errors on its Web site ( http://www.aopa.org/epilot/redir.cfm?adid=1875 ). To search, click on the binocular icon and enter an airport identifier. Jeppesen spokesman Mike Pound said the errors will be corrected "for the next possible release." The next release is scheduled for April 17. Of course, the most dangerous (for your ticket, and your life) is to ignore a Presidental TFR, which will not be in your electronic chart anyway. Mickey Coggins http://www.rv8.ch/ #82007 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:51:32 AM PST US From: "Richard V. Reynolds" Subject: Re: RV-List: ACS2002 Engine Monitor Analog Module Installation --> RV-List message posted by: "Richard V. Reynolds" Jordon, A RV-9A builder I am helping mounted it on the floor just aft of the firewall and covered it with a sheet metal top. The DB-37 connector is forward. Accessibility is very good. Richard Reynolds, Norfolk, VA, RV-6A Jordan Grant wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Jordan Grant" > > Listers: > I just got my ACS2002 engine monitor and I am contemplating where I can > mount the Analog Module in the airplane. Is there anyone out there with the > ACS2002 installed in an RV-6 Slider? I would like to know where you mounted > the module and how its been working for you. > > Thanks, > Jordan Grant > RV-6 - working on the panel > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:26:34 AM PST US From: "Mike Plecenik" Subject: Re: RV-List: Salute to our Mil Aviators (OT) --> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Plecenik" Brian - Your post is very much appreciated by this F-86, F-84F, F-4B/C/D/E driver. Folks like you are helping to get the taste of the 60's out of my mouth. - Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Denk" Subject: RV-List: Salute to our Mil Aviators (OT) > --> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Denk" > > Listers, > > I had a most interesting experience Friday morning that I thought I'd share. > (NOT specifically RV related, so delete now if not interested.) > > I had the morning free from work, husband and father chores. Time to RVate! > I went to a local breakfast spot for a plate of pancakes and eggs. I was > wearing my flightsuit....the usual green nomex with various patches: wings, > "RV8 Total Performance", "Young Eagles flight leader", etc. While enjoying > my breakfast, the waitress stopped by to top off my java mug, held up my > ticket and said, "don't worry about it...it's been paid for." > "Uh...OK...by who, and why?" I asked. She just grinned and shrugged her > shoulders. > > So, I looked around, saw nobody looking my way; just the usual folks lost in > conversation, pondering the days work ahead and probably wishing they owned > an RV!! OK, maybe not. But if they only knew... > > So, I finished up, left a hefty tip and headed off to go play with some low > level puffies that we seldom get around here. (For we New Mexicans, cloud > slalloming is a rare treat...unless you want to climb up to the flight > levels to find them.) > > It then dawned on me that there must have been someone in the cafe who > thought I was military and just wanted to say THANKS for being there. The > waitress did mention that the local air guard guys often stop by en masse > for pre-mission munchies. I think she relayed to another customer that I > was one of them. So, I started feeling awkward, even ashamed, but honored > at the gesture given freely to a mis-identified protector of our nation's > freedoms. > > To those who DO put their lives on the line to patrol our skies and knock > down the bad guys before they can inflict harm on our families and homes, I > say THANK YOU....Boyd, Danny, Denis, Stu, Scott, and all the other wonderful > RV'ers with JP4 still flowing in their veins....a big salute from me to > you. > > Oh, and feel free to stop by AEG if you come through Albuquerque. Breakfast > is on me. :) > > Brian Denk > RV8 N94BD > RV10 40051 > > do not archive > > Frustrated with dial-up? Get high-speed for as low as $26.95. > https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:06:10 AM PST US From: Sam Buchanan Subject: Re: RV-List: AnywhereMap airspace warning --> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan mick-matronics@rv8.ch wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: mick-matronics@rv8.ch > This is not new. Unfortunately you should never completely trust any > of these new-fangled electronic charts. > Of course, the most dangerous (for your ticket, and your life) is to > ignore a Presidental TFR, which will not be in your electronic > chart anyway. Or on your old fashioned paper charts........ Sam Buchanan ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:21:01 AM PST US From: Jerry Springer Subject: Re: RV-List: Salute to our Mil Aviators (OT) --> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer Mike Plecenik wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Plecenik" > >Brian - Your post is very much appreciated by this F-86, F-84F, F-4B/C/D/E >driver. Folks like you are helping to get the taste of the 60's out of my >mouth. - Mike > > Second that, Jerry (Vietnam 67-68) Springer do not archive >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Brian Denk" >To: >Subject: RV-List: Salute to our Mil Aviators (OT) > > > > >>--> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Denk" >> >>Listers, >> >>I had a most interesting experience Friday morning that I thought I'd >> >> >share. > > >> (NOT specifically RV related, so delete now if not interested.) >> >>I had the morning free from work, husband and father chores. Time to >> >> >RVate! > > >> I went to a local breakfast spot for a plate of pancakes and eggs. I >> >> >was > > >>wearing my flightsuit....the usual green nomex with various patches: >> >> >wings, > > >>"RV8 Total Performance", "Young Eagles flight leader", etc. While >> >> >enjoying > > >>my breakfast, the waitress stopped by to top off my java mug, held up my >>ticket and said, "don't worry about it...it's been paid for." >>"Uh...OK...by who, and why?" I asked. She just grinned and shrugged her >>shoulders. >> >>So, I looked around, saw nobody looking my way; just the usual folks lost >> >> >in > > >>conversation, pondering the days work ahead and probably wishing they >> >> >owned > > >>an RV!! OK, maybe not. But if they only knew... >> >>So, I finished up, left a hefty tip and headed off to go play with some >> >> >low > > >>level puffies that we seldom get around here. (For we New Mexicans, cloud >>slalloming is a rare treat...unless you want to climb up to the flight >>levels to find them.) >> >>It then dawned on me that there must have been someone in the cafe who >>thought I was military and just wanted to say THANKS for being there. The >>waitress did mention that the local air guard guys often stop by en masse >>for pre-mission munchies. I think she relayed to another customer that I >>was one of them. So, I started feeling awkward, even ashamed, but honored >>at the gesture given freely to a mis-identified protector of our nation's >>freedoms. >> >>To those who DO put their lives on the line to patrol our skies and knock >>down the bad guys before they can inflict harm on our families and homes, >> >> >I > > >>say THANK YOU....Boyd, Danny, Denis, Stu, Scott, and all the other >> >> >wonderful > > >>RV'ers with JP4 still flowing in their veins....a big salute from me to >>you. >> >>Oh, and feel free to stop by AEG if you come through Albuquerque. >> >> >Breakfast > > >>is on me. :) >> >>Brian Denk >>RV8 N94BD >>RV10 40051 >> >>do not archive >> >>Frustrated with dial-up? Get high-speed for as low as $26.95. >>https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) >> >> >> >> > > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:05:57 AM PST US From: " bert murillo" Subject: Re:RV-List: 2600 rpm placard --> RV-List message posted by: " bert murillo" Jack: What is your e-mail address? all I see is a lot of geroglifics??? Bert Do Not archive Sign up for Internet Service under $10 dollars a month, at http://isp.BlueLight.com ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:05:57 AM PST US From: "David Burton" Subject: RV-List: Jerry's tall tale, er tail --> RV-List message posted by: "David Burton" Hey Jerry, How about a pirep on the new tall tail on your 6? ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:48:23 AM PST US From: "jtb1" Subject: Re: Re:RV-List: 2600 rpm placard --> RV-List message posted by: "jtb1" email addes is: jtb1@prodigy.net ----- Original Message ----- From: " bert murillo" Subject: Re:RV-List: 2600 rpm placard | --> RV-List message posted by: " bert murillo" | | Jack: | | What is your e-mail address? all I see is a lot of | geroglifics??? | | Bert | | | Do Not archive | | Sign up for Internet Service under $10 dollars a month, at http://isp.BlueLight.com | | | | | ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:31:19 AM PST US From: WPAerial@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Over the fence at 70 --> RV-List message posted by: WPAerial@aol.com you will need to find out about each airplane. if you find what your airplanes 1-g stall is(desending at 500' per min) than 1.4 times that would be a good starting point. with this you could start getting a feel for it. each plane could be different. Jerry Wilken N699WP Albany Oregon ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 10:39:55 AM PST US From: Bob Skinner Subject: RV-List: OT-Building a RV is going to pay off NIGERIAN_BODY (2.7 points) Message body has multiple indications of Nigerian spam --> RV-List message posted by: Bob Skinner RVers' I got an e-mail the other day that I thought you guys might get a kick out of. Mr. Michael Smith from South Africa is a RV 6A builder and he's going to make me rich, rich, rich! *** Greetings from South Africa, How are you and your family I hope that you are all okay? I want to ask you, If you are not capable to quietly look for a reliable and honest person who will be capable and fit to provide either an existing bank account or to set up a new Bank a/c immediately to receive this money, even an empty a/c can serve to receive this money, as long as you will remain honest to me till the end for this important business trusting in you and believing in God that you will never let me down either now or in future. I am a homebuilder and presently I have an RV-6A I built with my friend and I am contacting you as a fellow RV enthusiast I am the Auditor in charge of international transaction in one of the biggest bank here in South Africa. During the course of our auditing, I discovered a floating fund in an account opened in the bank in 1996 and since 1998 nobody has operated on this account again, after going through some old files in the records I discovered that the owner of the account died without a [Heir/WILL] hence the money is floating and if I do not remit this money out urgently it will be forfeited for nothing. The owner of this account Mr. Victor Ratnavale a British, who unfortunately lost his life in the plane crash of Swiss Air Flight Number 111 which crashed on 2nd September 1998, including his wife. You shall read more news about the crash on visiting this site; http://users.aol.com/dharris498/swissair111/victims.html. No other person knows about this account or any thing concerning it, the account has no other beneficiary and my investigation proved to me as well that the account is a secret account. The total amount involve is Eighteen million Six Hundred Thousand United States Dollars only [$18,600.000.00] and we wish to transfer this money into a safe foreigners account abroad. But I don't know any foreigner, I am only contacting you as a foreigner because this money can not be approved to a local person here, but to a foreigner who has information about the account, which I shall give to you upon your positive response. I am revealing this to you with believe in God that you will never let me down in this business, you are the first and the only person that I am contacting for this business, so please reply urgently so that I will inform you the next step to take urgently. I need your strong assurance that you will never let us down, me and a key bank official who is deeply involved with me in this business. I guarantee that this transaction will be executed under a legitimate arrangement that will protect you from any breach of the law. I will destroy all documents of transaction immediately we receive this money leaving no trace to any place. I will use my position and influence to obtain all legal approvals for onward transfer of this money to your account with appropriate clearance from the relevant ministries and foreign exchange departments. At the conclusion of this business, you will be given 30% of the total amount, 70% will be for us. Further details awaits your earliest reply. PLEASE, TREAT THIS PROPOSAL AS TOP SECRET. Best Regards Michael Smith. ************* Man, if this deal works out, I'll build another RV Now, something that may be of value to RVers. My airplane replacement is a new 2003 Dodge Diesel Quad cab and I'm on a couple of Dodge diesel forums. One of the guys there is selling "Magic Cloths", 2 for $12.00. They are about 14 inces square. The tag on the cloth says "The Original Euro-Shine microfiber". This cloth works very well for cleaning bugs off my truck and for cleaning windshields and mirrors. It works well dry, too. After using the cloths on my truck, I "flashed back" to when I used to clean bugs off my RV after every flight during the summer in Nebraska. I had a bunch of clean, terry cloth towels and a jug of water that I kept in the hanger and I wiped the bugs off while they were fresh after every flight. I think these cloths would be ideal for this and would clean airplanes up with a lot less effort. It might be something a few of you might want to try and, if it works as well on airplanes as I think it will, pass the info onto your fellow RVers. The guy I bought from is David Miller, 516-371-9021, e-mail dcmille290@aol.com. He travels in his work so is not always available. You could possibly to a search and find another source, as well. Speaking of "flash back", I use the "Dry Wash & Guard" I bought for the RV (works really well on the canopy) on my vehicles and every time I smell the stuff, I flash back to all of the times I used it on my RV. I almost get teary-eyed:) Bob Skinner Buffalo, WY (Former RV6 guy and EAA Tech Counselor" ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 11:33:50 AM PST US From: Kevin Horton Subject: Re: RV-List: Over the fence at 70 --> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton >--> RV-List message posted by: WPAerial@aol.com > >you will need to find out about each airplane. if you find what your >airplanes 1-g stall is(desending at 500' per min) than 1.4 times >that would be a good >starting point. with this you could start getting a feel for it. each plane >could be different. > >Jerry Wilken Jerry's point that each aircraft is different is important, and often not properly understood. Each aircraft has its own airspeed errors, its own drag from the prop, its own weight and CG, its own elevator and flap angles, etc. And its own pilot, airfield altitude, etc. In the certification world we test the suitability of a recommended approach speed by deliberately doing an approach (in smooth conditions) at 5 kt less than the recommended speed with max forward CG and the most critical weight, and making sure we have sufficient elevator authority to flare without requiring unusual pilot skill or an unusual technique (i.e. use the same technique as for a landing at the recommended speed). Doing a successful approach at 5 kt less than the recommended speed ensures that there is some margin for the day that the pilot is not flying accurately, or there is a small wind shear on short final. The most critical weight for this test is max landing weight if you plan the same speed for all weights, or lightest possible weight if you plan to schedule the landing speed with weight. Of course you would want to sneak up on this minimum approach speed gently, doing a series of tests with the approach speed a couple of knots less each time. -- Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit) Ottawa, Canada http://go.phpwebhosting.com/~khorton/rv8/ ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 01:33:02 PM PST US From: Greg Puckett Subject: RV-List: Baffle kit instructions needed --> RV-List message posted by: Greg Puckett Hello, Well, with all of the delay in completing my RV-8, my baffle kit and their instructions have gone their separate ways. At least it was just the instructions I have misplaced and not the kit :-). After searching the archives and reading some of the complaints some have with these instructions maybe I don't want them but after staring at the drawing for 30 minutes I think I need them. Does anyone have the latest instructions in electronic format that they could email me with??? Thanks, Greg Puckett 80081 wires and firewall fwd ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 01:48:58 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV-List: Salute to our Mil Aviators (OT) From: Boyd Braem --> RV-List message posted by: Boyd Braem Mike-- You flew a Thunderjet?/Thunderstreak?--damn--good show--a J-65, even (if memory serves). Stupid F-4 J-79s put out so much smoke they could see you about 1/2 hr before they could see the 'plane. do not archive On Sunday, November 9, 2003, at 08:25 AM, Mike Plecenik wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Plecenik" > > Brian - Your post is very much appreciated by this F-86, F-84F, > F-4B/C/D/E > driver. Folks like you are helping to get the taste of the 60's out of > my > mouth. - Mike > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brian Denk" > To: > Subject: RV-List: Salute to our Mil Aviators (OT) > > >> --> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Denk" >> >> Listers, >> >> I had a most interesting experience Friday morning that I thought I'd > share. >> (NOT specifically RV related, so delete now if not interested.) >> >> I had the morning free from work, husband and father chores. Time to > RVate! >> I went to a local breakfast spot for a plate of pancakes and eggs. >> I > was >> wearing my flightsuit....the usual green nomex with various patches: > wings, >> "RV8 Total Performance", "Young Eagles flight leader", etc. While > enjoying >> my breakfast, the waitress stopped by to top off my java mug, held up >> my >> ticket and said, "don't worry about it...it's been paid for." >> "Uh...OK...by who, and why?" I asked. She just grinned and shrugged >> her >> shoulders. >> >> So, I looked around, saw nobody looking my way; just the usual folks >> lost > in >> conversation, pondering the days work ahead and probably wishing they > owned >> an RV!! OK, maybe not. But if they only knew... >> >> So, I finished up, left a hefty tip and headed off to go play with >> some > low >> level puffies that we seldom get around here. (For we New Mexicans, >> cloud >> slalloming is a rare treat...unless you want to climb up to the flight >> levels to find them.) >> >> It then dawned on me that there must have been someone in the cafe who >> thought I was military and just wanted to say THANKS for being there. >> The >> waitress did mention that the local air guard guys often stop by en >> masse >> for pre-mission munchies. I think she relayed to another customer >> that I >> was one of them. So, I started feeling awkward, even ashamed, but >> honored >> at the gesture given freely to a mis-identified protector of our >> nation's >> freedoms. >> >> To those who DO put their lives on the line to patrol our skies and >> knock >> down the bad guys before they can inflict harm on our families and >> homes, > I >> say THANK YOU....Boyd, Danny, Denis, Stu, Scott, and all the other > wonderful >> RV'ers with JP4 still flowing in their veins....a big salute from me >> to >> you. >> >> Oh, and feel free to stop by AEG if you come through Albuquerque. > Breakfast >> is on me. :) >> >> Brian Denk >> RV8 N94BD >> RV10 40051 >> >> do not archive >> >> Frustrated with dial-up? Get high-speed for as low as $26.95. >> https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) >> >> > > > _- > ======================================================================= > _-> _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > > > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 02:32:44 PM PST US From: "Tom Gummo" Subject: Re: RV-List: Salute to our Mil Aviators (OT) --> RV-List message posted by: "Tom Gummo" Boyd, The F-4G's, Wild Weasel version, got smokeless J-79 engines in the early 80's. More thrust too. Big Ugly became hard to see. Tom "GummiBear" Gummo Wild Weasel #1753 http://mysite.verizon.net/t.gummo/index.html Apple Valley, CA Harmon Rocket-II do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Boyd Braem" Subject: Re: RV-List: Salute to our Mil Aviators (OT) > --> RV-List message posted by: Boyd Braem > > Mike-- > > You flew a Thunderjet?/Thunderstreak?--damn--good show--a J-65, even > (if memory serves). > > Stupid F-4 J-79s put out so much smoke they could see you about 1/2 hr > before they could see the 'plane. > > do not archive > On Sunday, November 9, 2003, at 08:25 AM, Mike Plecenik wrote: > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Plecenik" > > > > Brian - Your post is very much appreciated by this F-86, F-84F, > > F-4B/C/D/E > > driver. Folks like you are helping to get the taste of the 60's out of > > my > > mouth. - Mike > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Brian Denk" > > To: > > Subject: RV-List: Salute to our Mil Aviators (OT) > > > > > >> --> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Denk" > >> > >> Listers, > >> > >> I had a most interesting experience Friday morning that I thought I'd > > share. > >> (NOT specifically RV related, so delete now if not interested.) > >> > >> I had the morning free from work, husband and father chores. Time to > > RVate! > >> I went to a local breakfast spot for a plate of pancakes and eggs. > >> I > > was > >> wearing my flightsuit....the usual green nomex with various patches: > > wings, > >> "RV8 Total Performance", "Young Eagles flight leader", etc. While > > enjoying > >> my breakfast, the waitress stopped by to top off my java mug, held up > >> my > >> ticket and said, "don't worry about it...it's been paid for." > >> "Uh...OK...by who, and why?" I asked. She just grinned and shrugged > >> her > >> shoulders. > >> > >> So, I looked around, saw nobody looking my way; just the usual folks > >> lost > > in > >> conversation, pondering the days work ahead and probably wishing they > > owned > >> an RV!! OK, maybe not. But if they only knew... > >> > >> So, I finished up, left a hefty tip and headed off to go play with > >> some > > low > >> level puffies that we seldom get around here. (For we New Mexicans, > >> cloud > >> slalloming is a rare treat...unless you want to climb up to the flight > >> levels to find them.) > >> > >> It then dawned on me that there must have been someone in the cafe who > >> thought I was military and just wanted to say THANKS for being there. > >> The > >> waitress did mention that the local air guard guys often stop by en > >> masse > >> for pre-mission munchies. I think she relayed to another customer > >> that I > >> was one of them. So, I started feeling awkward, even ashamed, but > >> honored > >> at the gesture given freely to a mis-identified protector of our > >> nation's > >> freedoms. > >> > >> To those who DO put their lives on the line to patrol our skies and > >> knock > >> down the bad guys before they can inflict harm on our families and > >> homes, > > I > >> say THANK YOU....Boyd, Danny, Denis, Stu, Scott, and all the other > > wonderful > >> RV'ers with JP4 still flowing in their veins....a big salute from me > >> to > >> you. > >> > >> Oh, and feel free to stop by AEG if you come through Albuquerque. > > Breakfast > >> is on me. :) > >> > >> Brian Denk > >> RV8 N94BD > >> RV10 40051 > >> > >> do not archive > >> > >> Frustrated with dial-up? Get high-speed for as low as $26.95. > >> https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) > >> > >> > > > > > > _- > > ======================================================================= > > _-> _- > > ======================================================================= > > _- > > ======================================================================= > > _- > > ======================================================================= > > _- > > ======================================================================= > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 03:29:43 PM PST US From: "C. Rabaut" Subject: Re: RV-List: OT-Building a RV is going to pay offNIGERIAN_BODY (2.7 points) Message body has multiple indications of Nigerian spam --> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" Bob, Can I have your RV-6, since with all those millions you'll probably be buying a Lear or something? Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Skinner Subject: RV-List: OT-Building a RV is going to pay offNIGERIAN_BODY (2.7 points) Message body has multiple indications of Nigerian spam > --> RV-List message posted by: Bob Skinner > > RVers' > > I got an e-mail the other day that I thought you guys might get a kick > out of. Mr. Michael Smith from South Africa is a RV 6A builder and he's > going to make me rich, rich, rich! > > *** > > Greetings from South Africa, > > How are you and your family I hope that you are all okay? I want to ask > you, If you are not capable to quietly look for a reliable and honest > person who will be capable and fit to provide either an existing bank > account or to set up a new Bank a/c immediately to receive this money, even > an empty a/c can serve to receive this money, as long as you will remain > honest to me till the end for this important business trusting in you and > believing in God that you will never let me down either now or in future. > I am a homebuilder and presently I have an RV-6A I built with my friend and > I am contacting you as a fellow RV enthusiast > > I am the Auditor in charge of international transaction in one of the > biggest bank here in South Africa. During the course of our auditing, I > discovered a floating fund in an account opened in the bank in 1996 and > since 1998 nobody has operated on this account again, after going through > some old files in the records I discovered that the owner of the account > died without a [Heir/WILL] hence the money is floating and if I do not > remit this money out urgently it will be forfeited for nothing. The owner > of this account Mr. Victor Ratnavale a British, who unfortunately lost his > life in the plane crash of Swiss Air Flight Number 111 which crashed on 2nd > September 1998, including his wife. You shall read more news about the > crash on visiting this site; > http://users.aol.com/dharris498/swissair111/victims.html. > > No other person knows about this account or any thing concerning it, the > account has no other beneficiary and my investigation proved to me as well > that the account is a secret account. > > The total amount involve is Eighteen million Six Hundred Thousand United > States Dollars only [$18,600.000.00] and we wish to transfer this money > into a safe foreigners account abroad. But I don't know any foreigner, I am > only contacting you as a foreigner because this money can not be approved > to a local person here, but to a foreigner who has information about the > account, which I shall give to you upon your positive response. I am > revealing this to you with believe in God that you will never let me down > in this business, you are the first and the only person that I am > contacting for this business, so please reply urgently so that I will > inform you the next step to take urgently. > > I need your strong assurance that you will never let us down, me and a key > bank official who is deeply involved with me in this business. I guarantee > that this transaction will be executed under a legitimate arrangement that > will protect you from any breach of the law. I will destroy all documents > of transaction immediately we receive this money leaving no trace to any > place. I will use my position and influence to obtain all legal approvals > for onward transfer of this money to your account with appropriate > clearance from the relevant ministries and foreign exchange departments. > > At the conclusion of this business, you will be given 30% of the total > amount, 70% will be for us. Further details awaits your earliest reply. > PLEASE, TREAT THIS PROPOSAL AS TOP SECRET. > > Best Regards > > Michael Smith. > > ************* > > Man, if this deal works out, I'll build another RV > > > Now, something that may be of value to RVers. > > My airplane replacement is a new 2003 Dodge Diesel Quad cab and I'm on a > couple of Dodge diesel forums. One of the guys there is selling "Magic > Cloths", 2 for $12.00. They are about 14 inces square. The tag on the > cloth says "The Original Euro-Shine microfiber". This cloth works very > well for cleaning bugs off my truck and for cleaning windshields and > mirrors. It works well dry, too. After using the cloths on my truck, I > "flashed back" to when I used to clean bugs off my RV after every flight > during the summer in Nebraska. I had a bunch of clean, terry cloth towels > and a jug of water that I kept in the hanger and I wiped the bugs off while > they were fresh after every flight. I think these cloths would be ideal > for this and would clean airplanes up with a lot less effort. It might be > something a few of you might want to try and, if it works as well on > airplanes as I think it will, pass the info onto your fellow RVers. The > guy I bought from is David Miller, 516-371-9021, e-mail dcmille290@aol.com. > He travels in his work so is not always available. You could possibly to > a search and find another source, as well. > Speaking of "flash back", I use the "Dry Wash & Guard" I bought for the > RV (works really well on the canopy) on my vehicles and every time I smell > the stuff, I flash back to all of the times I used it on my RV. I almost > get teary-eyed:) > > Bob Skinner > > Buffalo, WY (Former RV6 guy and EAA Tech Counselor" > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 03:30:38 PM PST US From: kempthornes Subject: Re: RV-List: Starter/Starter Relay --> RV-List message posted by: kempthornes At 07:51 PM 11/8/2003 -0500, you wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: Louis Willig > >Hi gang, > >My buddy called me yesterday to say that when he tried to restart my RV-4 >after refueling, the starter circuit breaker popped off and continued to >pop out when re-trying the starter. I'd begin by considering whether heat isn't part of the problem chain. You could try again to restart while hot. If it fuse blows, then I'd disconnect the solenoid and try again. If it still blows wire is shorted. If starter operates okay then - intermitant problems are difficult. Maybe it would help to measure current passing thru the fuse to see if 5 A is really enough fuse? K. H. (Hal) Kempthorne RV6-a N7HK - Three trips to OSH now. PRB (El Paso de Robles, CA) ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 03:43:51 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV-List: OT-Building a RV is going to pay offNIGERIAN_BODY (2.7 points) Message body has multiple indications of Nigerian spam From: Boyd Braem --> RV-List message posted by: Boyd Braem Chuck-- I'll take half the action--I'm going to start buying/selling those airplane things--do they all need radios? do not archive On Sunday, November 9, 2003, at 04:30 PM, C. Rabaut wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" > > Bob, > > Can I have your RV-6, since with all those millions you'll > probably be > buying a Lear or something? > > Chuck > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bob Skinner > To: > Subject: RV-List: OT-Building a RV is going to pay offNIGERIAN_BODY > (2.7 > points) Message body has multiple indications of Nigerian spam > > >> --> RV-List message posted by: Bob Skinner >> >> RVers' >> >> I got an e-mail the other day that I thought you guys might get a >> kick >> out of. Mr. Michael Smith from South Africa is a RV 6A builder and >> he's >> going to make me rich, rich, rich! >> >> *** >> >> Greetings from South Africa, >> >> How are you and your family I hope that you are all okay? I want to >> ask >> you, If you are not capable to quietly look for a reliable and honest >> person who will be capable and fit to provide either an existing bank >> account or to set up a new Bank a/c immediately to receive this money, > even >> an empty a/c can serve to receive this money, as long as you will >> remain >> honest to me till the end for this important business trusting in you >> and >> believing in God that you will never let me down either now or in >> future. >> I am a homebuilder and presently I have an RV-6A I built with my >> friend > and >> I am contacting you as a fellow RV enthusiast >> >> I am the Auditor in charge of international transaction in one of the >> biggest bank here in South Africa. During the course of our >> auditing, I >> discovered a floating fund in an account opened in the bank in 1996 >> and >> since 1998 nobody has operated on this account again, after going >> through >> some old files in the records I discovered that the owner of the >> account >> died without a [Heir/WILL] hence the money is floating and if I do not >> remit this money out urgently it will be forfeited for nothing. The >> owner >> of this account Mr. Victor Ratnavale a British, who unfortunately >> lost his >> life in the plane crash of Swiss Air Flight Number 111 which crashed >> on > 2nd >> September 1998, including his wife. You shall read more news about >> the >> crash on visiting this site; >> http://users.aol.com/dharris498/swissair111/victims.html. >> >> No other person knows about this account or any thing concerning it, >> the >> account has no other beneficiary and my investigation proved to me as >> well >> that the account is a secret account. >> >> The total amount involve is Eighteen million Six Hundred Thousand >> United >> States Dollars only [$18,600.000.00] and we wish to transfer this >> money >> into a safe foreigners account abroad. But I don't know any >> foreigner, I > am >> only contacting you as a foreigner because this money can not be >> approved >> to a local person here, but to a foreigner who has information about >> the >> account, which I shall give to you upon your positive response. I am >> revealing this to you with believe in God that you will never let me >> down >> in this business, you are the first and the only person that I am >> contacting for this business, so please reply urgently so that I will >> inform you the next step to take urgently. >> >> I need your strong assurance that you will never let us down, me and >> a key >> bank official who is deeply involved with me in this business. I > guarantee >> that this transaction will be executed under a legitimate arrangement >> that >> will protect you from any breach of the law. I will destroy all >> documents >> of transaction immediately we receive this money leaving no trace to >> any >> place. I will use my position and influence to obtain all legal >> approvals >> for onward transfer of this money to your account with appropriate >> clearance from the relevant ministries and foreign exchange >> departments. >> >> At the conclusion of this business, you will be given 30% of the total >> amount, 70% will be for us. Further details awaits your earliest >> reply. >> PLEASE, TREAT THIS PROPOSAL AS TOP SECRET. >> >> Best Regards >> >> Michael Smith. >> >> ************* >> >> Man, if this deal works out, I'll build another RV >> >> >> Now, something that may be of value to RVers. >> >> My airplane replacement is a new 2003 Dodge Diesel Quad cab and I'm >> on a >> couple of Dodge diesel forums. One of the guys there is selling >> "Magic >> Cloths", 2 for $12.00. They are about 14 inces square. The tag on >> the >> cloth says "The Original Euro-Shine microfiber". This cloth works >> very >> well for cleaning bugs off my truck and for cleaning windshields and >> mirrors. It works well dry, too. After using the cloths on my >> truck, I >> "flashed back" to when I used to clean bugs off my RV after every >> flight >> during the summer in Nebraska. I had a bunch of clean, terry cloth >> towels >> and a jug of water that I kept in the hanger and I wiped the bugs off > while >> they were fresh after every flight. I think these cloths would be >> ideal >> for this and would clean airplanes up with a lot less effort. It >> might be >> something a few of you might want to try and, if it works as well on >> airplanes as I think it will, pass the info onto your fellow RVers. >> The >> guy I bought from is David Miller, 516-371-9021, e-mail > dcmille290@aol.com. >> He travels in his work so is not always available. You could >> possibly to >> a search and find another source, as well. >> Speaking of "flash back", I use the "Dry Wash & Guard" I bought for >> the >> RV (works really well on the canopy) on my vehicles and every time I >> smell >> the stuff, I flash back to all of the times I used it on my RV. I >> almost >> get teary-eyed:) >> >> Bob Skinner >> >> Buffalo, WY (Former RV6 guy and EAA Tech Counselor" >> >> > > > _- > ======================================================================= > _-> _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > > > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 04:03:20 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV-List: Salute to our Mil Aviators (OT) From: Boyd Braem --> RV-List message posted by: Boyd Braem Tom-- That's why you guys got the smokeless engine because "G" is an advanced replacement over the "J"--yeah--stick a frog in my throat. Tho, I do love you--except you AF guys have this bad habit of having better quarters than the Navy guys--that's why we always overnighted at an AF base--esp. in TX where they trained the nurses. please do not archive, my life is miserable enough, already On Tuesday, December 9, 2003, at 05:33 PM, Tom Gummo wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Tom Gummo" > > Boyd, > > The F-4G's, Wild Weasel version, got smokeless J-79 engines in the > early > 80's. > More thrust too. > Big Ugly became hard to see. > > Tom "GummiBear" Gummo > Wild Weasel #1753 > > http://mysite.verizon.net/t.gummo/index.html > > Apple Valley, CA > Harmon Rocket-II > > do not archive > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Boyd Braem" > To: > Subject: Re: RV-List: Salute to our Mil Aviators (OT) > > >> --> RV-List message posted by: Boyd Braem >> >> Mike-- >> >> You flew a Thunderjet?/Thunderstreak?--damn--good show--a J-65, even >> (if memory serves). >> >> Stupid F-4 J-79s put out so much smoke they could see you about 1/2 hr >> before they could see the 'plane. >> >> do not archive >> On Sunday, November 9, 2003, at 08:25 AM, Mike Plecenik wrote: >> >>> --> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Plecenik" >>> >>> Brian - Your post is very much appreciated by this F-86, F-84F, >>> F-4B/C/D/E >>> driver. Folks like you are helping to get the taste of the 60's out >>> of >>> my >>> mouth. - Mike >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Brian Denk" >>> To: >>> Subject: RV-List: Salute to our Mil Aviators (OT) >>> >>> >>>> --> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Denk" >>>> >>>> Listers, >>>> >>>> I had a most interesting experience Friday morning that I thought >>>> I'd >>> share. >>>> (NOT specifically RV related, so delete now if not interested.) >>>> >>>> I had the morning free from work, husband and father chores. Time >>>> to >>> RVate! >>>> I went to a local breakfast spot for a plate of pancakes and eggs. >>>> I >>> was >>>> wearing my flightsuit....the usual green nomex with various patches: >>> wings, >>>> "RV8 Total Performance", "Young Eagles flight leader", etc. While >>> enjoying >>>> my breakfast, the waitress stopped by to top off my java mug, held >>>> up >>>> my >>>> ticket and said, "don't worry about it...it's been paid for." >>>> "Uh...OK...by who, and why?" I asked. She just grinned and shrugged >>>> her >>>> shoulders. >>>> >>>> So, I looked around, saw nobody looking my way; just the usual folks >>>> lost >>> in >>>> conversation, pondering the days work ahead and probably wishing >>>> they >>> owned >>>> an RV!! OK, maybe not. But if they only knew... >>>> >>>> So, I finished up, left a hefty tip and headed off to go play with >>>> some >>> low >>>> level puffies that we seldom get around here. (For we New Mexicans, >>>> cloud >>>> slalloming is a rare treat...unless you want to climb up to the >>>> flight >>>> levels to find them.) >>>> >>>> It then dawned on me that there must have been someone in the cafe >>>> who >>>> thought I was military and just wanted to say THANKS for being >>>> there. >>>> The >>>> waitress did mention that the local air guard guys often stop by en >>>> masse >>>> for pre-mission munchies. I think she relayed to another customer >>>> that I >>>> was one of them. So, I started feeling awkward, even ashamed, but >>>> honored >>>> at the gesture given freely to a mis-identified protector of our >>>> nation's >>>> freedoms. >>>> >>>> To those who DO put their lives on the line to patrol our skies and >>>> knock >>>> down the bad guys before they can inflict harm on our families and >>>> homes, >>> I >>>> say THANK YOU....Boyd, Danny, Denis, Stu, Scott, and all the other >>> wonderful >>>> RV'ers with JP4 still flowing in their veins....a big salute from >>>> me >>>> to >>>> you. >>>> >>>> Oh, and feel free to stop by AEG if you come through Albuquerque. >>> Breakfast >>>> is on me. :) >>>> >>>> Brian Denk >>>> RV8 N94BD >>>> RV10 40051 >>>> >>>> do not archive >>>> >>>> Frustrated with dial-up? Get high-speed for as low as $26.95. >>>> https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> _- >>> ===================================================================== >>> == >>> _-> _- >>> ===================================================================== >>> == >>> _- >>> ===================================================================== >>> == >>> _- >>> ===================================================================== >>> == >>> _- >>> ===================================================================== >>> == >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > _- > ======================================================================= > _-> _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > > > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 04:04:55 PM PST US From: "C. Rabaut" Subject: Re: RV-List: OT-Building a RV is going to pay offNIGERIAN_BODY (2.7 points) Message body has multiple indications of Nigerian spam --> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" Cool Biz Boyd !!! No, the only ones that need radios are the ones that bust airspace restrictions. ----- Original Message ----- From: Boyd Braem Subject: Re: RV-List: OT-Building a RV is going to pay offNIGERIAN_BODY (2.7 points) Message body has multiple indications of Nigerian spam > --> RV-List message posted by: Boyd Braem > > Chuck-- > > I'll take half the action--I'm going to start buying/selling those > airplane things--do they all need radios? > > do not archive > On Sunday, November 9, 2003, at 04:30 PM, C. Rabaut wrote: > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" > > > > Bob, > > > > Can I have your RV-6, since with all those millions you'll > > probably be > > buying a Lear or something? > > > > Chuck > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Bob Skinner > > To: > > Subject: RV-List: OT-Building a RV is going to pay offNIGERIAN_BODY > > (2.7 > > points) Message body has multiple indications of Nigerian spam > > > > > >> --> RV-List message posted by: Bob Skinner > >> > >> RVers' > >> > >> I got an e-mail the other day that I thought you guys might get a > >> kick > >> out of. Mr. Michael Smith from South Africa is a RV 6A builder and > >> he's > >> going to make me rich, rich, rich! > >> > >> *** > >> > >> Greetings from South Africa, > >> > >> How are you and your family I hope that you are all okay? I want to > >> ask > >> you, If you are not capable to quietly look for a reliable and honest > >> person who will be capable and fit to provide either an existing bank > >> account or to set up a new Bank a/c immediately to receive this money, > > even > >> an empty a/c can serve to receive this money, as long as you will > >> remain > >> honest to me till the end for this important business trusting in you > >> and > >> believing in God that you will never let me down either now or in > >> future. > >> I am a homebuilder and presently I have an RV-6A I built with my > >> friend > > and > >> I am contacting you as a fellow RV enthusiast > >> > >> I am the Auditor in charge of international transaction in one of the > >> biggest bank here in South Africa. During the course of our > >> auditing, I > >> discovered a floating fund in an account opened in the bank in 1996 > >> and > >> since 1998 nobody has operated on this account again, after going > >> through > >> some old files in the records I discovered that the owner of the > >> account > >> died without a [Heir/WILL] hence the money is floating and if I do not > >> remit this money out urgently it will be forfeited for nothing. The > >> owner > >> of this account Mr. Victor Ratnavale a British, who unfortunately > >> lost his > >> life in the plane crash of Swiss Air Flight Number 111 which crashed > >> on > > 2nd > >> September 1998, including his wife. You shall read more news about > >> the > >> crash on visiting this site; > >> http://users.aol.com/dharris498/swissair111/victims.html. > >> > >> No other person knows about this account or any thing concerning it, > >> the > >> account has no other beneficiary and my investigation proved to me as > >> well > >> that the account is a secret account. > >> > >> The total amount involve is Eighteen million Six Hundred Thousand > >> United > >> States Dollars only [$18,600.000.00] and we wish to transfer this > >> money > >> into a safe foreigners account abroad. But I don't know any > >> foreigner, I > > am > >> only contacting you as a foreigner because this money can not be > >> approved > >> to a local person here, but to a foreigner who has information about > >> the > >> account, which I shall give to you upon your positive response. I am > >> revealing this to you with believe in God that you will never let me > >> down > >> in this business, you are the first and the only person that I am > >> contacting for this business, so please reply urgently so that I will > >> inform you the next step to take urgently. > >> > >> I need your strong assurance that you will never let us down, me and > >> a key > >> bank official who is deeply involved with me in this business. I > > guarantee > >> that this transaction will be executed under a legitimate arrangement > >> that > >> will protect you from any breach of the law. I will destroy all > >> documents > >> of transaction immediately we receive this money leaving no trace to > >> any > >> place. I will use my position and influence to obtain all legal > >> approvals > >> for onward transfer of this money to your account with appropriate > >> clearance from the relevant ministries and foreign exchange > >> departments. > >> > >> At the conclusion of this business, you will be given 30% of the total > >> amount, 70% will be for us. Further details awaits your earliest > >> reply. > >> PLEASE, TREAT THIS PROPOSAL AS TOP SECRET. > >> > >> Best Regards > >> > >> Michael Smith. > >> > >> ************* > >> > >> Man, if this deal works out, I'll build another RV > >> > >> > >> Now, something that may be of value to RVers. > >> > >> My airplane replacement is a new 2003 Dodge Diesel Quad cab and I'm > >> on a > >> couple of Dodge diesel forums. One of the guys there is selling > >> "Magic > >> Cloths", 2 for $12.00. They are about 14 inces square. The tag on > >> the > >> cloth says "The Original Euro-Shine microfiber". This cloth works > >> very > >> well for cleaning bugs off my truck and for cleaning windshields and > >> mirrors. It works well dry, too. After using the cloths on my > >> truck, I > >> "flashed back" to when I used to clean bugs off my RV after every > >> flight > >> during the summer in Nebraska. I had a bunch of clean, terry cloth > >> towels > >> and a jug of water that I kept in the hanger and I wiped the bugs off > > while > >> they were fresh after every flight. I think these cloths would be > >> ideal > >> for this and would clean airplanes up with a lot less effort. It > >> might be > >> something a few of you might want to try and, if it works as well on > >> airplanes as I think it will, pass the info onto your fellow RVers. > >> The > >> guy I bought from is David Miller, 516-371-9021, e-mail > > dcmille290@aol.com. > >> He travels in his work so is not always available. You could > >> possibly to > >> a search and find another source, as well. > >> Speaking of "flash back", I use the "Dry Wash & Guard" I bought for > >> the > >> RV (works really well on the canopy) on my vehicles and every time I > >> smell > >> the stuff, I flash back to all of the times I used it on my RV. I > >> almost > >> get teary-eyed:) > >> > >> Bob Skinner > >> > >> Buffalo, WY (Former RV6 guy and EAA Tech Counselor" > >> > >> > > > > > > _- > > ======================================================================= > > _-> _- > > ======================================================================= > > _- > > ======================================================================= > > _- > > ======================================================================= > > _- > > ======================================================================= > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 04:48:08 PM PST US From: Randy Richter Subject: RV-List: Is this thing on? --> RV-List message posted by: Randy Richter Is this just a really slow weekend, or have my subscriptions died for some reason? I've gotten zero posts this weekend. Just wondering. Randy ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 04:48:08 PM PST US From: Gil Alexander Subject: RV-List: Help - tip-up canopy latch slot dimensions --> RV-List message posted by: Gil Alexander Guys ... I need some help with RV-6 plan dimensions... I was ready to cut the slot in the left fuselage side for the canopy latch, and I found some dimension 'anomalies' with my plans set (even though they were recently updated). Sheet 51 give a dimension of 1 3/8 (1.375 inches) from the aft side of the F-604 bulkhead to the front edge of the canopy latch angles (C-612). But if I use this dimension, then the C-615 spring and the C-616 rod will be too short, and not fit into the hole in F-604. I'm guessing that the 1 3/8 dimension should be to the forward edge of the front 'latch' piece C-609, but this is only a guess. Does anyone have a dimension that works for this assembly? I don't want to cut slots in my nice clean fuselage side in the wrong spot...: ( NOTE ... this is an old RV-6A original very slow build kit, and the wing spar bulkhead is different on the later RV-7s.... ....thanks for any help..... gil in Tucson RV-6A, #20701 .. fitting out firewall... 77 Tiger N28478 at 57AZ ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 05:02:17 PM PST US From: linn walters Subject: Re: RV-List: Salute to our Mil Aviators (OT) --> RV-List message posted by: linn walters Boyd Braem wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: Boyd Braem > >Tom-- > >That's why you guys got the smokeless engine because "G" is an >advanced replacement over the "J"--yeah--stick a frog in my throat. >Tho, I do love you--except you AF guys have this bad habit of having >better quarters than the Navy guys--that's why we always overnighted at >an AF base--esp. in TX where they trained the nurses. > > Yeah, but the Navy had better food!! Hmmm. Where did those pounds come from??? Linn ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 05:07:28 PM PST US From: linn walters Subject: Re: RV-List: Salute to our Mil Heroes --> RV-List message posted by: linn walters How appropriate! I just received this link on sea life: http://www.jacquielawson.com/viewcard.asp?code=1483260750 Turn the sound up and check it out! You'll be glad you did. Linn ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 05:32:02 PM PST US From: "Dave Ford" Subject: RV-List: hartwell latch --> RV-List message posted by: "Dave Ford" I'm looking for a Hartwell latch that has the round push lever instead of the rectangular spring loaded one seen in ACS. There is a part number on this broken one that I have of H601S-100-C356. Anyone know of a source for this? Dave Ford RV6 finishing ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 06:04:17 PM PST US From: Neil McLeod Subject: Re: RV-List: hartwell latch --> RV-List message posted by: Neil McLeod I've never seen one in a catalog but I was just looking at such a latch this afternoon my friends Mooney 201 and thinking that it would be perfect for the RV oil door as well. Maybe an aircraft salvage yard if the part form Mooney is too $$$$. Neil McLeod RV7 qb finishing ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Ford" Subject: RV-List: hartwell latch > --> RV-List message posted by: "Dave Ford" > > I'm looking for a Hartwell latch that has the round push lever instead of the rectangular spring loaded one seen in ACS. There is a part number on this broken one that I have of H601S-100-C356. Anyone know of a source for this? > > Dave Ford > RV6 finishing > > ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 06:42:06 PM PST US From: SportAV8R@aol.com Subject: RV-List: Alternator Bracket failure --> RV-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com At oil change this weekend I noticed a complete failure of my stock blue anodized aluminum alternator bracket, with a crack across both halves of the arm at the far end of the belt tension adjustment slot, just above the bolt which locks the alternator into final position. Because the belt holds the broken pieces in tension, there was no significant displacement of the parts, and I have no way of knowing how long it may have been like this. I suspect this is a vibration-related failure possibly originating from a stress riser where the bolt head/washer may have galled the bracket. I believe the alternator boss position also places some lateral bending stress on this arm, as it is not in perfect alignment with the plane of the engine case's boss. That's if my memory of the installation serves me correctly after 5 years. FWIW, my v-belt is of a length that requires the alternator to be bolted at maximum distance down the slot to adequately tension the belt. I will be ordering a replacement from Van's, which will be radiused along the edges of the slot (the original was shipped quite roughly machined and anodized, and I neglected to deburr it before installation.) Meanwhile, after a bit of boy scout lashing with safety wire, I went flying with the bracket as is, and had an uneventful 1 hour local flight. Just giving everyone a heads-up and wondering if this had ever come up before. -Bill Boyd RV-6A 335 hrs TT Lyc O-320-E2D Sensenich FP prop, Van's 35A Alternator. ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 07:41:00 PM PST US From: Altoq Subject: Re: RV-List: Salute to our Mil Heroes --> RV-List message posted by: Altoq I feel Better. Thank you. ----- Original Message ----- From: "linn walters" Subject: Re: RV-List: Salute to our Mil Heroes > --> RV-List message posted by: linn walters > > How appropriate! I just received this link on sea life: > > http://www.jacquielawson.com/viewcard.asp?code=1483260750 > > Turn the sound up and check it out! You'll be glad you did. > > Linn > > ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 07:57:04 PM PST US From: rmickey@ix.netcom.com Subject: RV-List: N9PT First Flight --> RV-List message posted by: rmickey@ix.netcom.com N9PT flew for the first time today. 9 years to the day of when I picked my emp kit up from Vans. One hour of joy and uneventful flying. No heavy wing, aileron in trim, and no trim tab needed on the rudder. All engine parameters good. Indicated airspeed at 45 degrees F, 2,000 feet, 24" manifold pressure and 2400 rpm's was 168 knots. No flap stall speed was 38 knots. Only squawk,so far, the GRT engine monitor goes wierd when I transmit on Comm 2 which is my wingtip antenna. Keep building. Thanks again, Ross N9PT...Flying!!!!! ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 08:39:39 PM PST US From: Dave Smith Subject: Re: RV-List: Brushing on Iridite 14-2 Question --> RV-List message posted by: Dave Smith Charlie, I'm not sure why anything would bounce. I leave my email up all the time, so I'm always cleaning out the inbox. I have 50mb of storage for my email, and I don't have any msgs sitting there, so I should have been able to receive it. If you would, please try a test msg and let's see if that goes sans attachments. The recovery I'm talking about is converting the liquid back into powder form, which can be re-used. I'm not sure how it's done yet, but I've been told it's possible. Linn, I just started calling chemical companies that were listed in my yellow pages, and started asking who carries McDermid. 1st call I made got me to an Alodine rep, and he gave me the # for the Iridite rep. Friendly folks, but they don't deal in this stuff a lot, so whenever I ask a question, there's a delay of a day or two to get an answer. -- Dave http://www.rv10project.net ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 08:43:04 PM PST US From: "Brett Morawski" Subject: RE: RV-List: Salute to our Mil Aviators (OT) --> RV-List message posted by: "Brett Morawski" I just need to chime in here and add my thanks to any veterans on the list - land, sea or air. I usually feel about 3 inches tall next to any of you guys knowing that nothing I've done or will do will be as important as what you were a part of. As for people of the 60's/70's who disrespected our soldiers in the ways they did (whatever their feelings on whatever war/conflict/military action) I can only hope their lack of apologies today means they're just too ashamed to do it. I'm 32 and can say I don't know a single person in my generation who doesn't respect our veterans and current military members. Anyway, back to the point - THANK YOU ALL! do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jerry Springer Subject: Re: RV-List: Salute to our Mil Aviators (OT) --> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer Mike Plecenik wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Plecenik" > >Brian - Your post is very much appreciated by this F-86, F-84F, F-4B/C/D/E >driver. Folks like you are helping to get the taste of the 60's out of my >mouth. - Mike > > Second that, Jerry (Vietnam 67-68) Springer do not archive >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Brian Denk" >To: >Subject: RV-List: Salute to our Mil Aviators (OT) > > >>--> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Denk" >> >>Listers, >> >>I had a most interesting experience Friday morning that I thought I'd >> >> >share. > > >> (NOT specifically RV related, so delete now if not interested.) >> >>I had the morning free from work, husband and father chores. Time to >> >> >RVate! > > >> I went to a local breakfast spot for a plate of pancakes and eggs. I >> >> >was > > >>wearing my flightsuit....the usual green nomex with various patches: >> >> >wings, > > >>"RV8 Total Performance", "Young Eagles flight leader", etc. While >> >> >enjoying > > >>my breakfast, the waitress stopped by to top off my java mug, held up my >>ticket and said, "don't worry about it...it's been paid for." >>"Uh...OK...by who, and why?" I asked. She just grinned and shrugged her >>shoulders. >> >>So, I looked around, saw nobody looking my way; just the usual folks lost >> >> >in > > >>conversation, pondering the days work ahead and probably wishing they >> >> >owned > > >>an RV!! OK, maybe not. But if they only knew... >> >>So, I finished up, left a hefty tip and headed off to go play with some >> >> >low > > >>level puffies that we seldom get around here. (For we New Mexicans, cloud >>slalloming is a rare treat...unless you want to climb up to the flight >>levels to find them.) >> >>It then dawned on me that there must have been someone in the cafe who >>thought I was military and just wanted to say THANKS for being there. The >>waitress did mention that the local air guard guys often stop by en masse >>for pre-mission munchies. I think she relayed to another customer that I >>was one of them. So, I started feeling awkward, even ashamed, but honored >>at the gesture given freely to a mis-identified protector of our nation's >>freedoms. >> >>To those who DO put their lives on the line to patrol our skies and knock >>down the bad guys before they can inflict harm on our families and homes, >> >> >I > > >>say THANK YOU....Boyd, Danny, Denis, Stu, Scott, and all the other >> >> >wonderful > > >>RV'ers with JP4 still flowing in their veins....a big salute from me to >>you. >> >>Oh, and feel free to stop by AEG if you come through Albuquerque. >> >> >Breakfast > > >>is on me. :) >> >>Brian Denk >>RV8 N94BD >>RV10 40051 >> >>do not archive >> >>Frustrated with dial-up? Get high-speed for as low as $26.95. >>https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 08:54:03 PM PST US From: "Rob W M Shipley" Subject: RV-List: Canopy samples --> RV-List message posted by: "Rob W M Shipley" Dana, I'm presently considering gluing the canopy on for my 9 tipper. A couple of samples would be most useful. Rob Rob W M Shipley RV9A N919RV (res) Fuselage Subject: RV-List: Canopy samples If anyone wants a sample of canopy material to test, play, drill, scratch, buff, hammer, bend, break or just drill and rivet with until you get yours in let me know off the list. Come Tuesday all this scrap stuff gets pitched. Dana Overall Richmond, KY RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 09:59:15 PM PST US From: "Jim and Bev Cone" Subject: RV-List: Approach Speeds --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim and Bev Cone" My RV-6A stalls at 38 KIAS. This was verified by a four way GPS groundspeed check. I know that is a bit slow compared to the stock RV, but I have several home made fairings and the plane is very clean. I can fly at 50 KIAS and roll to 60 degrees and back the other way to 60 degrees without any problem. I use 60 KIAS for approach solo and 65 KIAS for dual. For gusty conditions, I add 1/2 the gust. That works good for me. BTW, my stalls are a non-event. As soon as I relax the back pressure on the stick, I am flying again. The nose never gets below the horizon and I don't loose any altitude. I also have the Proprietary System AOA and that keeps me safe with a wake up call if my speed gets too slow. I too, flew the -9, and think that 60 KIAS has plenty of margin against a stall. Jim Cone #2 RV-6A flying, soon to be for sale. #3 RV-7A working on the finishing kit. ________________________________ Message 33 ____________________________________ Time: 09:59:43 PM PST US From: Garey Wittich Subject: RV-List: A GUIDE TO AIRCRAFT PAINTING & CORROSION CONTROL --> RV-List message posted by: Garey Wittich THIS IS NOT "SPAM", but from a Real RV-8A Builder with a lot of information to share - to help others. -------------------------------------------------- SAVE YOURSELF hundreds of hours of research time and building time, by using the comprehensive "Guide to Painting & Corrosion Control of Aluminum and Composite Aircraft" This book took over 600+ hours of research time, by a fussy RV-8A Builder. 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Contains plenty of "Do's" and "Don'ts" that save time, money and frustration. Send a check for $25 to (includes Postage within the US) to: Garey Wittich 58 Village Parkway Santa Monica, CA. 90405 __________________________________ ________________________________ Message 34 ____________________________________ Time: 10:49:20 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV-List: Approach Speeds From: Boyd Braem --> RV-List message posted by: Boyd Braem Jim--(if I can call you that)-- Fly your own airplane and screw all the other "experts"--if your airplane stalls at a certain speed, then that's your airplane--fly what you got--figure out the envelope--which means you have to fly the thing. Tho, 38 kts make me wonder if you have a measurement problem with your airspeed thingy. Don't rely on me, I'm pretty stupid. Boyd. do not archive On Monday, November 10, 2003, at 12:58 AM, Jim and Bev Cone wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim and Bev Cone" > > My RV-6A stalls at 38 KIAS. This was verified by a four way GPS > groundspeed check. I know that is a bit slow compared to the stock > RV, but I have several home made fairings and the plane is very clean. > I can fly at 50 KIAS and roll to 60 degrees and back the other way to > 60 degrees without any problem. I use 60 KIAS for approach solo and > 65 KIAS for dual. For gusty conditions, I add 1/2 the gust. That > works good for me. BTW, my stalls are a non-event. As soon as I > relax the back pressure on the stick, I am flying again. The nose > never gets below the horizon and I don't loose any altitude. I also > have the Proprietary System AOA and that keeps me safe with a wake up > call if my speed gets too slow. I too, flew the -9, and think that 60 > KIAS has plenty of margin against a stall. > > Jim Cone > #2 RV-6A flying, soon to be for sale. > #3 RV-7A working on the finishing kit. > > > _- > ======================================================================= > _-> _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > > > >