---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 11/14/03: 37 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:25 AM - Subject: MY FOURTH FLIGHT (quite long) (Bob Hodgson) 2. 06:10 AM - Re: Subject: MY FOURTH FLIGHT (quite long) (rob ray) 3. 07:20 AM - Stat question (Chris W) 4. 07:33 AM - Re: FloScan sensor in cabin tunnel (Tim Lewis) 5. 07:38 AM - prop governor fitting (Hobby Stevens) 6. 07:51 AM - Re: Bob Nuckolls' workshops (Charles Rowbotham) 7. 08:09 AM - Prop governor swap... (Ken Balch) 8. 09:31 AM - Dynon-10, EFIS LITE (Jack Bannon) 9. 09:37 AM - Re: Subject: MY FOURTH FLIGHT (quite long) (Dr. Kevin P. Leathers) 10. 09:56 AM - [PLEASE READ] - Why Do I Have A Fund Raiser Each Year? (Matt Dralle) 11. 10:04 AM - Re: Dynon-10, EFIS LITE (C. Rabaut) 12. 10:22 AM - Grand Rapids EIS 4000 Tach compatibility with Lightspeed Plasma II (czechsix@juno.com) 13. 11:29 AM - Re: Dynon-10, EFIS LITE (Pat Hatch) 14. 11:39 AM - Re: Dynon-10, EFIS LITE (Brian Denk) 15. 12:44 PM - Re: Subject: MY FOURTH FLIGHT (quite long) (rob ray) 16. 12:44 PM - Fw: Every Pilot's Dream Home> John Travolta (Bill VonDane) 17. 12:44 PM - Re: Stat question (rob ray) 18. 01:30 PM - Cold weather priming (Phil N) 19. 01:36 PM - Fiberglass supplies () 20. 01:51 PM - Golf Clubs () 21. 02:07 PM - Re: Subject: MY FOURTH FLIGHT (quite long) (Scott Bilinski) 22. 02:17 PM - Re: Cold weather priming (Jim Jewell) 23. 02:40 PM - Re: Fw: Every Pilot's Dream Home> John Travolta (Craig Hiers) 24. 02:46 PM - Re: Fiberglass supplies (Dr. Kevin P. Leathers) 25. 02:59 PM - SoCAL RV RendezVous Report (WMPALM@aol.com) 26. 03:03 PM - Re: Golf Clubs (Ted Gauthier) 27. 03:11 PM - Re: EAA Young Eagles hits a million! (Jim Bower) 28. 03:39 PM - Re: Fiberglass supplies (Craig Warner) 29. 04:34 PM - Re: EAA Young Eagles hits a million! (linn walters) 30. 04:57 PM - Re: Fiberglass supplies (kempthornes) 31. 05:12 PM - Re: EAA Young Eagles hits a million! (Sam Buchanan) 32. 06:58 PM - Re: Cold weather priming (Krhooper@aol.com) 33. 07:17 PM - Re: Fiberglass supplies (Jim Jewell) 34. 09:19 PM - Re: Fiberglass supplies () 35. 10:07 PM - Heat Muff (smoothweasel@juno.com) 36. 10:28 PM - Re: Heat Muff (rob ray) 37. 10:59 PM - Re: prop governor fitting (Charlie Kuss) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:25:58 AM PST US From: "Bob Hodgson" Subject: Subject: RV-List: MY FOURTH FLIGHT (quite long) --> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Hodgson" Hi Doug, > My first fill up: 29.14 gallons, $74.63. Yikes! Thats a bunch of money! > Sure is - but still not too bad compared to the $193.05 it would cost over here! :-0 -Not really whining; glad it's all worthwhile. Enjoy!! Bob in UK RV3B canopy- 'Steel Spaghetti' do not archive ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:10:59 AM PST US From: rob ray Subject: Re: Subject: RV-List: MY FOURTH FLIGHT (quite long) --> RV-List message posted by: rob ray Bob, My Dad used to say "fuel is an incedental"...not any more. I run Autogas in my 0-320 powered RV4 here in the US and figured last year I saved over $1000. I fly alot...It's a good argument for low compression engines....Also I have always liked the LOM engines after seeing one in Jim Ayers RV3. They are low compression, run autogas, use a manual supercharger for higher MP and power, have magnesium cases and cost almost 40% less than a lycoming. Do you see many LOM's over there in GB? RR Bob Hodgson wrote: --> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Hodgson" Hi Doug, > My first fill up: 29.14 gallons, $74.63. Yikes! Thats a bunch of money! > Sure is - but still not too bad compared to the $193.05 it would cost over here! :-0 -Not really whining; glad it's all worthwhile. Enjoy!! Bob in UK RV3B canopy- 'Steel Spaghetti' do not archive --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:20:23 AM PST US From: Chris W Subject: RV-List: Stat question --> RV-List message posted by: Chris W Does anyone know of a source for statistics of the number of homebuilt planes finished each year vs the number of spam cans sold every year. And also the number of homebuilts flying vs the number of spam cans flying? Just curious. -- Chris Woodhouse 3147 SW 127th St. Oklahoma City, OK 73170 405-691-5206 chrisw@programmer.net N35 20.492' W97 34.342' "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Historical Review of Pennsylvania ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:33:59 AM PST US From: Tim Lewis Subject: Re: RV-List: FloScan sensor in cabin tunnel --> RV-List message posted by: Tim Lewis Jack, I recommend you put a fuel filter or other pulse absorbing device between the flowscan and the facet pump. For example, I've used the Fram G3 fuel filter for several years. See the archives in the 1999 - 2000 time frame for a discussion. The bottom line is the Facet pump (and to a lesser extent the engine driven mechanical fuel pump) induce pulses in the fuel line which cause erratic readings in the flow scan. The fuel filter, with some air trapped inside, acts as a "capacitor" to smooth out the pulses so they don't impact the flowscan (as much). Tim Lewis RV-6A N47TD, 600 hrs EIS-4000 w/ flowscan transducer isolated by Fram G3 filters. -----Original Message----- From: jacklockamy@att.net Subject: RV-List: FloScan sensor in cabin tunnel --> RV-List message posted by: jacklockamy@att.net I'd like to install my fuel flow sensor (FloScan from Grand Rapids w/EIS- 4000) in the cabin tunnel running from the sparbox to the firewall (RV-7A). I would install an in-line fuel filter just after the Van's fuel selector valve, then the FloScan, inline up to the facet electric fuel pump mounted inside the cabin on the firewall. Nice straight run, easy to maintain/access and not located on the forward side of the firewall (heat). Has anyone else tried this AND been successful? My only concern is when I read that the 'wires' on the sensor must be mounted "UP" and with this tunnel installation the wires would be horizontal. Spoke with GRT this afternoon and they said the location and installation sounded great but were unsure whether or not the having the sensor mounted horizontal would cause bubbles to be created in the sensor thus causing a possible flucuation/error in the fuel flow readings. Comments and ideas welcomed. Jack Lockamy Camarillo, CA RV-7A QB ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:38:11 AM PST US From: "Hobby Stevens" Subject: RV-List: prop governor fitting --> RV-List message posted by: "Hobby Stevens" I have a Lyc O360-A1A engine, and I am looking for the special flare fitting that goes on the propellor governor adapter onto which you attach the steel line to the front of the crankcase. The Lycoming part number is 74070. This part is described as "elbow, 3/8 flared tube x 9/16-18 str. thd., adj 45 degrees". If anyone has a spare fitting that they can part with, contact me directly. Thanks, Hobby Stevens hstevens@raycocpa.com ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:51:20 AM PST US From: "Charles Rowbotham" Subject: Re: RV-List: Bob Nuckolls' workshops --> RV-List message posted by: "Charles Rowbotham" Hi Craig - all, Location is Groton, CT (airport identifier GON) Chuck >From: "Craig Warner" >Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com >To: >Subject: Re: RV-List: Bob Nuckolls' workshops >Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:45:37 -0500 > >--> RV-List message posted by: "Craig Warner" > >Where in the North east? >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Bobby Hester" >To: >Subject: Re: RV-List: Bob Nuckolls' workshops > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: Bobby Hester > > > > Charles Rowbotham wrote: > > > > >--> RV-List message posted by: "Charles Rowbotham" > > > > > > >All, > > > > > >Ron's experience certainly echos Dave and mine's. Best investment we >made >in > > >our 8A, short of a major donation to Van's. > > > > > >For all of you in the North East - our EAA Chapter (334) is sponsoring >Bob > > >on March 6/7 of 2004. Hope to see many of you there. > > > > > >Chuck & Dave Rowbotham > > >RV-8A > > > > > > > > > > > In the North East, could that be narrowed down just a bit more? > > > > -- > > Surfing the Web from Hopkinsville, KY > > Visit my web site at: http://www.geocities.com/hester-hoptown/RVSite/ > > RV7A Slowbuild wings-QB Fuse :-) > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:09:15 AM PST US From: Ken Balch Subject: RV-List: Prop governor swap... --> RV-List message posted by: Ken Balch I've got a brand-new Woodward governor (model 210776 - of mid-1996 vintage) which I'd like to trade for a brand-new McCauley governor, such as Van's is currently selling. The Woodward governor has a thicker mounting flange which will require slightly longer studs on the governor pad. I'm installing this on an RV-4 with a Lyc O-320. Since the engine is already mounted, I don't have much room to work with, so I'd rather swap the governor than try to change the studs in the limited space available. Anyway, if someone would like to have a Woodward governor, this would be a lot cheaper than buying one outright... Regards, Ken Balch RV-8 N118KB ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:31:14 AM PST US From: "Jack Bannon" Subject: RV-List: Dynon-10, EFIS LITE --> RV-List message posted by: "Jack Bannon" Our RV-6A needs an Artificial Horizon, DG, G Meter etc. We happened on an RV-4 driver who sent us to the Dynon site for the EFIS-D10, as well as the Blue mountain site for the EFIS LITE. Both look terrific. Has anyone investigated, installed one of these units? On the Dynon is the EDC-D10 Electronic Digital Compass a good thing? I might wait for the heated AOA/Pitot probe to come out. We were looking at getting the Garmin 196, but the EFIS LITE incorporates a GPS with moving map. Any thoughts you can share? Jack ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:37:15 AM PST US From: "Dr. Kevin P. Leathers" Subject: Re: Subject: RV-List: MY FOURTH FLIGHT (quite long) --> RV-List message posted by: "Dr. Kevin P. Leathers" Hi RR, I am very interested in the LOM engines as well. I wonder if the four cylinder would fit under the cowling on my Patrol, or am I going to need to fabricate some extra custom metalwork? What about cooling using the Pitts type nose bowl? Doc ----- Original Message ----- From: "rob ray" Subject: Re: Subject: RV-List: MY FOURTH FLIGHT (quite long) > --> RV-List message posted by: rob ray > > Bob, > My Dad used to say "fuel is an incedental"...not any more. I run Autogas in my 0-320 powered RV4 here in the US and figured last year I saved over $1000. I fly alot...It's a good argument for low compression engines....Also I have always liked the LOM engines after seeing one in Jim Ayers RV3. They are low compression, run autogas, use a manual supercharger for higher MP and power, have magnesium cases and cost almost 40% less than a lycoming. Do you see many LOM's over there in GB? > > RR > > > Bob Hodgson wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Hodgson" > > Hi Doug, > > > My first fill up: 29.14 gallons, $74.63. Yikes! Thats a bunch of money! > > > > Sure is - but still not too bad compared to the $193.05 it would cost over > here! :-0 > -Not really whining; glad it's all worthwhile. Enjoy!! > > Bob in UK > RV3B canopy- 'Steel Spaghetti' > > do not archive > > > --------------------------------- > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:56:27 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: RV-List: [PLEASE READ] - Why Do I Have A Fund Raiser Each Year? --> RV-List message posted by: Matt Dralle Dear Listers, I was thinking that perhaps I should explain why I have a Fund Raiser and also take the opportunity to express why I think the List Services here provide a far better experience than the commercial equivalents. I use the List Fund Raiser each year to offset the costs involved with running a high performance email list site such as this one. 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If you use, appreciate, and receive value from these Lists, then please support them during the Annual List Fund Raiser! ----------------------------------------------- The SSL Secure Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution ----------------------------------------------- Thank you, Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 10:04:06 AM PST US From: "C. Rabaut" Subject: Re: RV-List: Dynon-10, EFIS LITE --> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" Jack, No offense intended... but did you just fall of a turnip truck or what??? Scroll down to the bottom of this (or any RV list) email and search the "Archives" for Dynon, EFIS, Blue Mountain, etc... you'll get a lot. Chuck do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack Bannon Subject: RV-List: Dynon-10, EFIS LITE > --> RV-List message posted by: "Jack Bannon" > > Our RV-6A needs an Artificial Horizon, DG, G Meter etc. We happened on an RV-4 driver who sent us to the Dynon site for the EFIS-D10, as well as the Blue mountain site for the EFIS LITE. Both look terrific. Has anyone investigated, installed one of these units? On the Dynon is the EDC-D10 Electronic Digital Compass a good thing? I might wait for the heated AOA/Pitot probe to come out. We were looking at getting the Garmin 196, but the EFIS LITE incorporates a GPS with moving map. Any thoughts you can share? > Jack > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 10:22:22 AM PST US Subject: RV-List: Grand Rapids EIS 4000 Tach compatibility with Lightspeed Plasma II From: czechsix@juno.com --> RV-List message posted by: czechsix@juno.com Guys, a few weeks ago Ross Mickey posted some stuff to the List that he couldn't get the Grand Rapids EIS 4000 engine monitor to read the tach signal from the Lightspeed Plasma II ignition system. I have this combo so I asked Greg Toman about it and here is his response. If you have this combo give him a call and he can talk you through this quick and easy mod to get it to work (or if you're ordering it new, and are using LSE PLasma II's, he can ship it this way from day one). --Mark Navratil Cedar Rapids, Iowa RV-8A N2D finishing with EIS 4000 and dual LSE Plasma II's.... Msg from Greg Toman 11/14/03: This isn't a problem. There is a resistor and capacitor in the tach circuit that you can remove youself with our help over the phone. When this is done, you will be able to use the tach output from the Plasma II. Don't worry...by now it seems like I have encountered every problem you can imagine! That is an easy one, but it is one of the very rare cases where our(unmodified) tachometer input circuit is not compatible with someones tach output. Thanks Greg Toman Grand Rapids Technologies, Inc 616 583-8000 fax 616 583-8001 www.grtavionics.com ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 11:29:51 AM PST US From: "Pat Hatch" Subject: Re: RV-List: Dynon-10, EFIS LITE --> RV-List message posted by: "Pat Hatch" Jack, You must have just recently signed on to the list. Welcome. There has been a lot of discussion lately on these two items. Are you familiar with the archives? If not, go to the Matronics search engine and type in Dynon and Blue Mountain. You will get a lot of hits, some as recent as yesterday, and you should find what you are looking for, maybe more. Good hunting. do not archive Pat Hatch RV-4 RV-6 RV-7 QB (Building) Vero Beach, FL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Bannon" Subject: RV-List: Dynon-10, EFIS LITE > --> RV-List message posted by: "Jack Bannon" > > Our RV-6A needs an Artificial Horizon, DG, G Meter etc. We happened on an RV-4 driver who sent us to the Dynon site for the EFIS-D10, as well as the Blue mountain site for the EFIS LITE. Both look terrific. Has anyone investigated, installed one of these units? On the Dynon is the EDC-D10 Electronic Digital Compass a good thing? I might wait for the heated AOA/Pitot probe to come out. We were looking at getting the Garmin 196, but the EFIS LITE incorporates a GPS with moving map. Any thoughts you can share? > Jack > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 11:39:07 AM PST US From: "Brian Denk" Subject: Re: RV-List: Dynon-10, EFIS LITE --> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Denk" >Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:29:02 -0500 > >--> RV-List message posted by: "Jack Bannon" > >Our RV-6A needs an Artificial Horizon, DG, G Meter etc. We happened on an >RV-4 driver who sent us to the Dynon site for the EFIS-D10, as well as the >Blue mountain site for the EFIS LITE. Both look terrific. Has anyone >investigated, installed one of these units? On the Dynon is the EDC-D10 >Electronic Digital Compass a good thing? I might wait for the heated >AOA/Pitot probe to come out. We were looking at getting the Garmin 196, but >the EFIS LITE incorporates a GPS with moving map. Any thoughts you can >share? >Jack Jack, There is much info on the Dynon EFIS, Blue Mountain, etc, in the archives. The new EFIS technology is a terrific thing! Several Dynons are now flying in RV's and seem to be meeting expectations. Brian Denk RV8 N94BD do not archive MSN Shopping upgraded for the holidays! Snappier product search... http://shopping.msn.com ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 12:44:08 PM PST US From: rob ray Subject: Re: Subject: RV-List: MY FOURTH FLIGHT (quite long) --> RV-List message posted by: rob ray Check the latest Sport Aviation article on the Glastar in CO with a 160 LOM up front. Sounds like LOM is doing complete firewall forwards now to compete and get their engines on the market. If so, the cowling on the Glastar is first rate. RR "Dr. Kevin P. Leathers" wrote: --> RV-List message posted by: "Dr. Kevin P. Leathers" Hi RR, I am very interested in the LOM engines as well. I wonder if the four cylinder would fit under the cowling on my Patrol, or am I going to need to fabricate some extra custom metalwork? What about cooling using the Pitts type nose bowl? Doc ----- Original Message ----- From: "rob ray" Subject: Re: Subject: RV-List: MY FOURTH FLIGHT (quite long) > --> RV-List message posted by: rob ray > > Bob, > My Dad used to say "fuel is an incedental"...not any more. I run Autogas in my 0-320 powered RV4 here in the US and figured last year I saved over $1000. I fly alot...It's a good argument for low compression engines....Also I have always liked the LOM engines after seeing one in Jim Ayers RV3. They are low compression, run autogas, use a manual supercharger for higher MP and power, have magnesium cases and cost almost 40% less than a lycoming. Do you see many LOM's over there in GB? > > RR > > > Bob Hodgson wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Hodgson" > > Hi Doug, > > > My first fill up: 29.14 gallons, $74.63. Yikes! Thats a bunch of money! > > > > Sure is - but still not too bad compared to the $193.05 it would cost over > here! :-0 > -Not really whining; glad it's all worthwhile. Enjoy!! > > Bob in UK > RV3B canopy- 'Steel Spaghetti' > > do not archive > > > --------------------------------- > > --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 12:44:08 PM PST US From: Bill VonDane Subject: RV-List: Fw: Every Pilot's Dream Home> John Travolta vansairforce --> RV-List message posted by: Bill VonDane DO NOT ARCHIVE This happens to belong to John Travolta in Anthony, Florida. Article published Nov 2, 2003 House image at http://www.vondane.com/$hit/travolta_house.jpg High-flying A lot of neighborhoods don't allow the owners to park Boeing 707s outside their homes, which is why actor John Travolta moved to Jumbolair, near Ocala. OCALA -- It's not just another housing development, as you can tell by the 1.4-mile airstrip and the Boeing 707 parked next to one of the houses. Located in the Central Florida town of Anthony, just north of Ocala, it's called Jumbolair, and it's the new home of John Travolta -- '70s TV phenom, film superstar, Oscar-nominated actor, sex symbol, accomplished pilot, doting husband and father. After several years of whispers about his building a house here, the 49-year-old actor has taken up residence in his nearly completed mansion. Travolta is flying daily from Ocala to Tampa to shoot "The Punisher," an action movie based on the comic book, set to be released next summer. A lifelong love of aviation holds the key to Travolta's decision to build at Jumbolair. During much of the 1980s, elephants used to roam Jumbolair's rolling woodlands, safe from poachers and reckless intruders, thanks to Arthur Jones, creator of the Nautilus line of exercise equipment, and his then-wife Terri, who used to bring in African elephants and other endangered creatures via the 1.4-mile airstrip. Terri Jones-Thayer, who divorced Jones and married Jeremy Thayer, is turning Jumbolair into an exclusive fly-in community. Although Travolta is the only big-name customer to buy in so far, other celebrities are said to have an interest, including NASCAR star Ricky Rudd. Travolta owns at least two jets, a Gulfstream and a huge Boeing 707B. Simply put, there aren't very many non-commercial airstrips where planes of that size can take off and land. Jumbolair, with its long landing strip and massive jet wash berms at either end, is one of them. About a decade ago, Travolta had a home in a fly-in community near Daytona, but was sued by neighbors who claimed his jet airplanes were too big and noisy for their facility. The very layout of his new house is testament to Travolta's love of flying. It's located immediately off the main airstrip, and is designed so his jets can taxi right up to two outbuildings connected to the main structure, which is shaped like a squat air-control tower. Travolta literally can walk out his door, under a canopied walkway and into the cockpit, open the long mechanized gate and be airborne in a matter of minutes. According to the Federal Aviation Administration pilot database, Travolta is qualified in several types of single- and multi-engine aircraft, and has the highest pilot medical certification possible. "We know that Travolta's an accomplished pilot. ... A lot of people fly for the pleasure of it, and he's one of them," said John Clabes, an FAA spokesman. "If you have this many ratings on these types of high-performance aircraft, you're obviously a good pilot." In layman's terms, Travolta has enough experience flying large multi-engine jets that he could easily switch to piloting commercial airliners for a living. 'Down to earth' guy Through his intermediaries, Travolta has declined media requests for interviews. But the star of "Pulp Fiction," "Grease" and "Face/Off" has been anything but reclusive. He has been spotted eating at local restaurants, working out at a public gym, even shopping for groceries. According to numerous people who have met and spoken with him, Travolta has been very friendly, even gregarious, toward his new neighbors. Rather than living in a remote estate behind multiple layers of security, or smack dab in the searing public spotlight of Hollywood, the actor seems to enjoy interacting with regular folks. Ask Charley Marcum. The classified advertising manager for the local newspaper, the Star-Banner, flies an ultralight -- a lightweight, open-air aircraft that resembles a hang glider with a seat and motor. Last month he and a buddy were flying over Jumbolair, where he hangars his craft, when they spotted another ultralight. After flying patterns together and practicing touch-and-go landings, they finally brought their ultralight to a rest. The other pilot rolled up, got out, shook their hands and introduced himself as John Travolta. "I asked him, 'What brings you to move to a place like this?'" Marcum said. "He said he loves aviation, and he enjoys being around people who share that enthusiasm." Marcum admits to being a little overwhelmed and starstruck -- at one point calling his daughter on his cell phone to let her speak with the actor, who cheerily complied -- but describes Travolta as very down-to-earth and friendly. The trio chatted for nearly an hour, mostly about planes. Added visibility Although "Punisher" and Travolta's most recent film, the military whodunit thriller "Basic," were filmed in Florida, local film production officials aren't holding out hope the actor will bring a major feature film shoot to his new hometown. The very appeal of Ocala is that it's far away from the hubbub of Los Angeles or New York, according to Jude Hagin, who heads up the Real Florida Film Commission, which covers Marion and Alachua counties. "Mr. and Mrs. Travolta moved here because of that airstrip, and it's our good fortune to have them as neighbors," Hagin said. "It probably gives us a little more visibility." The lack of seasoned film crew members and large buildings are the biggest impediments to attracting a major film shoot to Ocala, Hagin said. "Should (the Travoltas) decide to film here, we are at their beck and call." The "Mrs." refers to Travolta's wife of 12 years, Kelly Preston, a well-known actress ("Jerry Maguire," "Twins") in her own right. They have two children: Ella Bleu, 3, and Jett, 11. Their Ocala property is incorporated under the name Jett Bleu Estates, a combination of their children's names. Star sightings Whatever private concerns Travolta and Preston keep for their home, the actor has hardly been reticent to wander beyond the gated borders of Jumbolair. Travolta has been spotted dining at a number of Ocala-area restaurants, including Hops, Red Lobster and the Ocala Ale House. Usually, the actor shows up late in the evening, alone or with a single companion. Occasionally, his presence has sparked an excited frenzy large enough to reportedly require the presence of police officers to escort Travolta away from the potential mob of fans. This past summer, Travolta caused a big stir when he entered the Red Lobster on State Road 200. By the time he had finished his meal, a large crowd had formed in front of the restaurant, and police had to smuggle him out the back. Travolta was about to depart, but paused when he heard the story of MaKenzie White. White, a 14-year-old freshmen at Belleview High School, had a bad experience a couple of years earlier when a con man fooled her family into thinking he could introduce her to Travolta. White and her parents waited for hours at Ocala International Airport, and the girl was crushed when she learned it was all a hoax. "Somehow (Travolta) had gotten wind of the fact of what happened to my daughter," said White's father, Phil White. "He knew what had happened, and he felt terrible about it." Travolta took a few minutes to meet MaKenzie and have his picture taken with the young fan. "I can't even describe it. It was a once-in-a-lifetime thing," she said. 'Show him respect' A calm, friendly demeanor is universally described by those who have interacted with Travolta. "One thing that impressed me about Travolta in the few times I've met him is that he doesn't put on a big facade. It's nice to see a star of his caliber who doesn't put on a big air," said Tony Piccione, owner of the Ritz Historic Inn, a popular Ocala entertainment venue. "He just seems to have a very friendly spirit about him." That good nature, however, has occasionally been strained by overly arduous fans eager to see the famous star now shedding his light on Ocala. Travolta and his family have been forced to leave several area events because of a crush of fans -- something that worries film commissioner Hagin. "We wish for people to just allow them their dignity, to live their life and raise their children," she said. Ritz owner Piccione, who recently chatted with Travolta while the actor enjoyed a hamburger at Hops, echoes Hagin's caution, though he understands people's reactions. "We're all the same. We're all intrigued by someone who's achieved that degree of stardom," Piccione said. "But it's a shame people can't show him the respect of just nodding to him to say hello rather than mauling him. If we don't treat this guy with the respect he deserves and let him have his life, he's going to leave." ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 12:44:59 PM PST US From: rob ray Subject: Re: RV-List: Stat question --> RV-List message posted by: rob ray Email Dave Martin at Kitplanes magazine. He did an article on it recently. I seem to remember there being more Van's kits sold last year than ALL piston powered GA combined. RR Chris W wrote: --> RV-List message posted by: Chris W Does anyone know of a source for statistics of the number of homebuilt planes finished each year vs the number of spam cans sold every year. And also the number of homebuilts flying vs the number of spam cans flying? Just curious. -- Chris Woodhouse 3147 SW 127th St. Oklahoma City, OK 73170 405-691-5206 chrisw@programmer.net N35 20.492' W97 34.342' "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Historical Review of Pennsylvania --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 01:30:15 PM PST US From: "Phil N" Subject: RV-List: Cold weather priming --> RV-List message posted by: "Phil N" I am going to use Mar-Hyde 5111 to prime the parts of my -8. The air temp in my garage has been around the 35-40 deg F mark for several days now - I don't expect it to be any warmer than that until spring time (central Ohio). I ordered an infrared heater that will hang from the ceiling to warm a small area of the garage so I can do some priming. An infrared heater warms the objects under it, but does not warm the air (other than the heat radiating from the objects that are warmed, which will be minimal I think). I am a little concerned about the air temperature - the instructions on the can say the parts being painted need to be at least 65 deg F, but what effect might the 35-40 deg F air temp have on the paint as it goes from the can to the part? Thoughts? Thanks, Phil RV-8 empennage ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 01:36:02 PM PST US Subject: RV-List: Fiberglass supplies From: "" --> RV-List message posted by: "" All, Does anyone know of a "big-city" local source for high quality fiberglass/filler supplies? I know Spruce has good stuff, but I would like to find someplace local. Also, I have seen some great tip (emp, wing) tutorials on recent websites that I can no longer find (or remember where they were). If anyone has some good details published, I would appreciate if they might forward the link. I am done with the tail and would like to finish the tips. Thanks, Scott RV7A Hopefully on to wings... Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 01:51:15 PM PST US Subject: RV-List: Golf Clubs From: "" --> RV-List message posted by: "" All, Being an avid golfer/fisherman, anyone out there modify the baggage compartment to store such things? I saw through the archives that Norman Hunger may have done something similar (but couldn't find any pics). If anyone has any pictures (to send offline) or a link to share it would be much appreciated...I would be happy to post them on my website for all to see if need be. Thanks, Scott RV7A Emp/Wings Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 02:07:07 PM PST US From: Scott Bilinski Subject: Re: Subject: RV-List: MY FOURTH FLIGHT (quite long) --> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski Take a close look at that cowl. They never show a spinner to cowl side shot. Following the lines of the cowl I dont see how it can cleanly mate up with the cowl. Just a thought. At 12:42 PM 11/14/03 -0800, you wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: rob ray > >Check the latest Sport Aviation article on the Glastar in CO with a 160 LOM >up front. Sounds like LOM is doing complete firewall forwards now to compete >and get their engines on the market. If so, the cowling on the Glastar is >first rate. > >RR > >"Dr. Kevin P. Leathers" wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Dr. Kevin P. Leathers" > >Hi RR, > >I am very interested in the LOM engines as well. I wonder if the four >cylinder would fit under the cowling on my Patrol, or am I going to need to >fabricate some extra custom metalwork? What about cooling using the Pitts >type nose bowl? > >Doc > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "rob ray" >To: >Subject: Re: Subject: RV-List: MY FOURTH FLIGHT (quite long) > > >> --> RV-List message posted by: rob ray >> >> Bob, >> My Dad used to say "fuel is an incedental"...not any more. I run Autogas >in my 0-320 powered RV4 here in the US and figured last year I saved over >$1000. I fly alot...It's a good argument for low compression engines....Also >I have always liked the LOM engines after seeing one in Jim Ayers RV3. They >are low compression, run autogas, use a manual supercharger for higher MP >and power, have magnesium cases and cost almost 40% less than a lycoming. Do >you see many LOM's over there in GB? >> >> RR >> >> >> Bob Hodgson wrote: >> --> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Hodgson" >> >> Hi Doug, >> >> > My first fill up: 29.14 gallons, $74.63. Yikes! Thats a bunch of money! >> > >> >> Sure is - but still not too bad compared to the $193.05 it would cost over >> here! :-0 >> -Not really whining; glad it's all worthwhile. Enjoy!! >> >> Bob in UK >> RV3B canopy- 'Steel Spaghetti' >> >> do not archive >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> >> > > >--------------------------------- > > Scott Bilinski Eng dept 305 Phone (858) 657-2536 Pager (858) 502-5190 ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 02:17:15 PM PST US From: "Jim Jewell" Subject: Re: RV-List: Cold weather priming --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" Hi Phil, I have been using Mar-Hide to prime various interior parts and pieces. I am building a 6A in my garage which is heated but gets quite cool in the cooler part of the winter. the one thing that I ran into was that the spay can nozzle seems to plug to the point of uselessness if I try to spray with the can at the garage's cool temps. I do not like to spray indoors as the garage in the lower part of the house as the fumes from the Mar-Hyde smell, are quite likely noxious and permeate the house. I now warm the Mar-Hyde spray can and parts to somthing above room temperature (about 80 degrees) and spray outdoors. I then bring the painted parts back into the garage to finish drying. This reduces the overspray in the shop to zero, brings the stink down to acceptable levels and all but eliminates the spattering and plugged nozzle syndrome. I will experiment with a heat lamp in the outdoor paint shop (driveway) to see if I can let the parts gas off longer outdoors and eliminate the paint smell even more. Not many more parts for me to paint but worth finding out about for future use. I hope this helps, Jim in Kelowna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil N" Subject: RV-List: Cold weather priming > --> RV-List message posted by: "Phil N" > > I am going to use Mar-Hyde 5111 to prime the parts of my -8. The air > temp in my garage has been around the 35-40 deg F mark for several days > now - I don't expect it to be any warmer than that until spring time > (central Ohio). > > I ordered an infrared heater that will hang from the ceiling to warm a > small area of the garage so I can do some priming. An infrared heater > warms the objects under it, but does not warm the air (other than the > heat radiating from the objects that are warmed, which will be minimal I > think). I am a little concerned about the air temperature - the > instructions on the can say the parts being painted need to be at least > 65 deg F, but what effect might the 35-40 deg F air temp have on the > paint as it goes from the can to the part? > > Thoughts? > > Thanks, > > Phil > RV-8 empennage > > ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 02:40:57 PM PST US From: "Craig Hiers" Subject: Re: RV-List: Fw: Every Pilot's Dream Home> John Travolta --> RV-List message posted by: "Craig Hiers" If anyone is interested, Jumbolair has a brunch the first Sunday of every month. The brunch cost 25$ and is open to the public. The cost is a little high, but they bring in some fancy 5 hat chef to whip up the gruel. Also, I have taxied past Travolta's house, the photo does not do it justice. Craig Hiers RV-4 Tifton, GA. > --> RV-List message posted by: Bill VonDane > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > This happens to belong to John Travolta in Anthony, Florida. Article > published Nov 2, 2003 > > House image at http://www.vondane.com/$hit/travolta_house.jpg > > ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 02:46:04 PM PST US From: "Dr. Kevin P. Leathers" Subject: Re: RV-List: Fiberglass supplies --> RV-List message posted by: "Dr. Kevin P. Leathers" If you live on the West Coast, try Tap Plastics. They have just about everything you could want. I have been using their stuff for years. The owner is a personal friend and long time patient. Doc http://www.tapplastics.com/fiberglass/ From: Subject: RV-List: Fiberglass supplies > --> RV-List message posted by: "" > > > All, > > Does anyone know of a "big-city" local source for high quality fiberglass/filler supplies? I know Spruce has good stuff, but I would like to find someplace local. > > Also, I have seen some great tip (emp, wing) tutorials on recent websites that I can no longer find (or remember where they were). If anyone has some good details published, I would appreciate if they might forward the link. I am done with the tail and would like to finish the tips. > > Thanks, > Scott > RV7A Hopefully on to wings... > > > Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com > The most personalized portal on the Web! > > ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 02:59:51 PM PST US From: WMPALM@aol.com Subject: RV-List: SoCAL RV RendezVous Report --> RV-List message posted by: WMPALM@aol.com Our SoCAL RV RendezVous was a Success! Aircraft Attending: 32 Homebuilts (30 RVs: RV-4, 6, 6A, 7, 9A, 8, 8A) + 1 Lancair 320 + 1 Thorp T-18) + 7-8 Factory (Ercoupe, Yankee, Cessnas, Pipers) (approx. 40 aircraft total) From: As far north as Las Vegas, as far east as Tucson, as far south as San Diego, and as far west as Oxnard. People Attending: 100+ including 2 builders from Australia! U.S. Builders and Dreamers came from: As far north as Sisters, Oregon, as far east as Redlands, as far south as San Diego, and as far west as Santa Barbara. Weather: Great! Partly Cloudy to Mostly Sunny, Ceilings 9,000 MSL+, Light Winds, Temp: 72 degrees Food Consumed: 6 dozen donuts/muffins, 50+ cups of coffee, 3 gallons of orange juice, 110 super hot dogs + lots of chips, cookies, and soft drinks! Thanks To: Chuck Barnett, Cable Airport Manager, for shaded seating and ramp space; Mary Barnett for Cable newsletter advertising and accommodation referral; EAA Chapter 448 (Fred and Gary) for lunch wagon (hot dogs, chips, drinks, cookies) plus coffee, chairs, and tables; SoCAL Volunteers for donuts, muffins, SoCAL Volunteers for auto parking (Tom, Dan, and Robin), aircraft parking (Paul and Greg), transportation (Mark), signs (Robert and Bill), organization (Gary, Gary, Fred, and Paul), and, most importantly, RV flyers, builders, friends, and family for A GREAT TIME! ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 03:03:08 PM PST US From: "Ted Gauthier" Subject: RE: RV-List: Golf Clubs --> RV-List message posted by: "Ted Gauthier" I would be more than happy to e-mail you photos of how I did my baggage compartment on my RV-6....I am happy with it and it serves my purpose. I must caution you that you will have to pay close attention to your weight and balance. Let me know if you have a high speed connection. Ted Gauthier Pontiac, Mi. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of tx_jayhawk@excite.com Subject: RV-List: Golf Clubs --> RV-List message posted by: "" All, Being an avid golfer/fisherman, anyone out there modify the baggage compartment to store such things? I saw through the archives that Norman Hunger may have done something similar (but couldn't find any pics). If anyone has any pictures (to send offline) or a link to share it would be much appreciated...I would be happy to post them on my website for all to see if need be. Thanks, Scott RV7A Emp/Wings Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! = == == == == ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 03:11:36 PM PST US From: "Jim Bower" Subject: Re: RV-List: EAA Young Eagles hits a million! --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Bower" Great!!!! Is it true that the EAA will not be supporting a YE program any more? I seem to have heard they won't be pushing it any more. YE rallys are a big part of what my chapter (32) does each year, and it's great community relations. What's the scoop? Jim Bower St. Louis, MO RV-6A Fuselage >From: Jim Sears >Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com >To: >Subject: RV-List: EAA Young Eagles hits a million! Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 >13:57:32 -0500 > >--> RV-List message posted by: Jim Sears > >I know some of you were interested. It was reported today that we have >finally hit the magic one million Young Eagles mark. Having been a part >of >that, I'm feeling very proud, right now. :-) > >Jim Sears in KY >do not archive > > Frustrated with dial-up? Get high-speed for as low as $26.95. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 03:39:07 PM PST US From: "Craig Warner" Subject: Re: RV-List: Fiberglass supplies --> RV-List message posted by: "Craig Warner" Boat U.S sells the West System, probibly most marine stores do. In Canada there is a knock off system called the "East System." In the back of Popular Mechanics you can get the phone number for Clark Craft marine products in Tonnawanda NY. They sell resin by the 55 gallon drum. Hope this helps. Best regards Craig Warner RV6 still building ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: RV-List: Fiberglass supplies > --> RV-List message posted by: "" > > > All, > > Does anyone know of a "big-city" local source for high quality fiberglass/filler supplies? I know Spruce has good stuff, but I would like to find someplace local. > > Also, I have seen some great tip (emp, wing) tutorials on recent websites that I can no longer find (or remember where they were). If anyone has some good details published, I would appreciate if they might forward the link. I am done with the tail and would like to finish the tips. > > Thanks, > Scott > RV7A Hopefully on to wings... > > > Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com > The most personalized portal on the Web! > > ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 04:34:18 PM PST US From: linn walters Subject: Re: RV-List: EAA Young Eagles hits a million! --> RV-List message posted by: linn walters Jim Bower wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Bower" > >Great!!!! Is it true that the EAA will not be supporting a YE program any >more? I seem to have heard they won't be pushing it any more. YE rallys >are a big part of what my chapter (32) does each year, and it's great >community relations. What's the scoop? > >Jim Bower >St. Louis, MO >RV-6A Fuselage > As I understand it, since the goal has been met, it won't be the same, but both EAA and Phillips will be supporting YE flights in the future. It's been a very successful program ..... for both kids and pilots ...... for us to stop now. I expect that there will be some definitive YE plans after the first of the year, so we'll just have to wait and see. Linn ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 04:57:39 PM PST US From: kempthornes Subject: Re: RV-List: Fiberglass supplies --> RV-List message posted by: kempthornes Scott, They have stuff here at the local Orchard Supply Hardware and at Kragens. That's local for me but where, we all wonder, are you? do not archive K. H. (Hal) Kempthorne RV6-a N7HK - Three trips to OSH now. PRB (El Paso de Robles, CA) At 04:34 PM 11/14/2003 -0500, you wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "" > > >All, > >Does anyone know of a "big-city" local source for high quality >fiberglass/filler supplies? I know Spruce has good stuff, but I would >like to find someplace local. > >Also, I have seen some great tip (emp, wing) tutorials on recent websites >that I can no longer find (or remember where they were). If anyone has >some good details published, I would appreciate if they might forward the >link. I am done with the tail and would like to finish the tips. > >Thanks, >Scott >RV7A Hopefully on to wings... ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 05:12:16 PM PST US From: Sam Buchanan Subject: Re: RV-List: EAA Young Eagles hits a million! --> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan > --> RV-List message posted by: linn walters > > Jim Bower wrote: > > >>--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Bower" >> >>Great!!!! Is it true that the EAA will not be supporting a YE program any >>more? I seem to have heard they won't be pushing it any more. YE rallys >>are a big part of what my chapter (32) does each year, and it's great >>community relations. What's the scoop? From the EAA web site: "So does that mean that it's over and we stop flying Young Eagles? No. The program will continue into the future because you have told us how important it is to remain involved with young people, working together to build aviation's future. Young Eagles has become a part of the very fabric of EAA. Our mission is too significant to stop now." "The Young Eagles program will continue to provide a high-quality, satisfying experience for young people. In addition, your headquarters staff will strive to provide the tools and support our Young Eagles desire, as they explore all the world of aviation is able to offer them. Young Eagles will build aviation's next century." Sam Buchanan ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 06:58:11 PM PST US From: Krhooper@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Cold weather priming --> RV-List message posted by: Krhooper@aol.com I find that a heat gun will do considerable help if the primer does not kick off because of low temperature. Just take care not to concentrate the heat and blister the finish. Randy Hooper Rv-8 Fuselage ________________________________ Message 33 ____________________________________ Time: 07:17:42 PM PST US From: "Jim Jewell" Subject: Re: RV-List: Fiberglass supplies --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" Scott, Try Googling (is that a word?!) to West System's website and seek regional dealers there. Jim in Kelowna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Warner" Subject: Re: RV-List: Fiberglass supplies > --> RV-List message posted by: "Craig Warner" > > Boat U.S sells the West System, probibly most marine stores do. In Canada > there is a knock off system called the "East System." In the back of Popular > Mechanics you can get the phone number for Clark Craft marine products in > Tonnawanda NY. They sell resin by the 55 gallon drum. Hope this helps. > > Best regards > Craig Warner RV6 still building > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Subject: RV-List: Fiberglass supplies > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "" > > > > > > All, > > > > Does anyone know of a "big-city" local source for high quality > fiberglass/filler supplies? I know Spruce has good stuff, but I would like > to find someplace local. > > > > Also, I have seen some great tip (emp, wing) tutorials on recent websites > that I can no longer find (or remember where they were). If anyone has some > good details published, I would appreciate if they might forward the link. > I am done with the tail and would like to finish the tips. > > > > Thanks, > > Scott > > RV7A Hopefully on to wings... > > > > > > Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com > > The most personalized portal on the Web! > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 34 ____________________________________ Time: 09:19:16 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV-List: Fiberglass supplies From: "" --> RV-List message posted by: "" Thanks for the feedback. I found the West Systems site and there are three locations that carry their products in town (Austin)! Thanks again. Scott --- On Fri 11/14, Jim Jewell < jjewell@telus.net > wrote: From: Jim Jewell [mailto: jjewell@telus.net] Subject: Re: RV-List: Fiberglass supplies --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" Scott, Try Googling (is that a word?!) to West System's website and seek regional dealers there. Jim in Kelowna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Warner" Subject: Re: RV-List: Fiberglass supplies > --> RV-List message posted by: "Craig Warner" > > Boat U.S sells the West System, probibly most marine stores do. In Canada > there is a knock off system called the "East System." In the back of Popular > Mechanics you can get the phone number for Clark Craft marine products in > Tonnawanda NY. They sell resin by the 55 gallon drum. Hope this helps. > > Best regards > Craig Warner RV6 still building > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Subject: RV-List: Fiberglass supplies > > > > --> R V-List message posted by: "" > > > > > > All, > > > > Does anyone know of a "big-city" local source for high quality > fiberglass/filler supplies? I know Spruce has good stuff, but I would like > to find someplace local. > > > > Also, I have seen some great tip (emp, wing) tutorials on recent websites > that I can no longer find (or remember where they were). If anyone has some > good details published, I would appreciate if they might forward the link. > I am done with the tail and would like to finish the tips. > > > > Thanks, > > Scott > > RV7A Hopefully on to wings... > > > > > > Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com > > The most personalized portal on the Web! > > > > > > !) /subscription Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ________________________________ Message 35 ____________________________________ Time: 10:07:38 PM PST US Subject: RV-List: Heat Muff From: smoothweasel@juno.com --> RV-List message posted by: smoothweasel@juno.com Good Day to everyone!!! Today a follow RV builder was here to look at my project and was concerned that I did NOT have provisions to vent my heat muff when the heater is not in use. He seemed to think the exhaust needed some kind of cooling. Is there anyone out there flying that does not have these provisions? Thanx Joel "Weasel" Graber RV-4 trying to finish Brooksville MS ________________________________ Message 36 ____________________________________ Time: 10:28:13 PM PST US From: rob ray Subject: Re: RV-List: Heat Muff --> RV-List message posted by: rob ray Nope, 1000 hours of heat hasn't hurt mine... RR smoothweasel@juno.com wrote: --> RV-List message posted by: smoothweasel@juno.com Good Day to everyone!!! Today a follow RV builder was here to look at my project and was concerned that I did NOT have provisions to vent my heat muff when the heater is not in use. He seemed to think the exhaust needed some kind of cooling. Is there anyone out there flying that does not have these provisions? Thanx Joel "Weasel" Graber RV-4 trying to finish Brooksville MS --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 37 ____________________________________ Time: 10:59:30 PM PST US From: Charlie Kuss Subject: Re: RV-List: prop governor fitting --> RV-List message posted by: Charlie Kuss Hobby, These are the same fittings used for the mechanical fuel pump. The best deal going is to get them from Wick's Aircraft. I just ordered some for myself and another builder. the 45 degree fitting is part number 6802-6-6. Cost is $3.12 each. Check prices elsewhere and you'll find that this is a real deal. Charlie Kuss RV-8A working on heat and ventilation systems >--> RV-List message posted by: "Hobby Stevens" > >I have a Lyc O360-A1A engine, and I am looking for the special flare fitting that goes on the propellor governor adapter onto which you attach the steel line to the front of the crankcase. The Lycoming part number is 74070. > >This part is described as "elbow, 3/8 flared tube x 9/16-18 str. thd., adj 45 degrees". > >If anyone has a spare fitting that they can part with, contact me directly. > >Thanks, > >Hobby Stevens >hstevens@raycocpa.com > >