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Fri 11/21/03


Total Messages Posted: 16



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     1. 05:32 AM - Dana Dings (Coers, John)
     2. 05:54 AM - Re: response to military question (glenn.williams@businessacft.bombardier.com)
     3. 07:23 AM - parachute for RV-4 (Frazier, Vincent A)
     4. 07:26 AM - Re: Drill Size??? (DAVID REEL)
     5. 09:01 AM - Corrosion (Wheeler North)
     6. 09:05 AM - Re: First flight decisons (Scott Brumbelow)
     7. 11:04 AM - Re: IFR schools? (Joel Haynes)
     8. 11:32 AM - Re:[PLEASE READ] - Why Do I Have A Fund Raiser Each Year? (bert murillo)
     9. 12:33 PM - multiple terminal boots, same terminal (Dan Checkoway)
    10. 01:24 PM - Re: multiple terminal boots, same terminal (C. Rabaut)
    11. 01:26 PM - Fw: multiple terminal boots, same terminal (C. Rabaut)
    12. 01:44 PM - Re: First flight decisons (Elsa & Henry)
    13. 02:13 PM - Re: First flight decisons (Scott Bilinski)
    14. 02:47 PM - Really Nice Comments... (Matt Dralle)
    15. 04:19 PM - Re: Corrosion (Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club)
    16. 07:38 PM - Re: Corrosion (Boyd Braem)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:32:18 AM PST US
    From: "Coers, John" <John.Coers@fkilogistex.com>
    Subject: Dana Dings
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Coers, John" <John.Coers@fkilogistex.com> Dana, I didn't notice any problems with your skins a couple of weeks ago. Why do you ask? Did I create some? :-) John Coers 90780


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    Time: 05:54:38 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: response to military question
    From: glenn.williams@businessacft.bombardier.com
    11/21/2003 07:18:19 AM --> RV-List message posted by: glenn.williams@businessacft.bombardier.com Guys: I just want to say thank you for all your support. I am thankfull that there are people who support our veterans and for those of you who have responded personally to me, I want to give a heart felt thank you to all of you. I have had mixed emotions about going over there to do my duty. I may not have to go but if I do I will carry your thoughts with me. I guess every soldier would like not to go to war, I am one of tose who do not want to go. However If called to active duty I will go and do my best to get back home in one piece. I will not dodge this responsibility if called like some ex president we had. again to all of you, God bless and thanks. your friend Glenn Williams do not archive


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    Time: 07:23:32 AM PST US
    Subject: parachute for RV-4
    From: "Frazier, Vincent A" <VFrazier@usi.edu>
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Frazier, Vincent A" <VFrazier@usi.edu> I recently bought a chute for my Rocket from Paraphernalia. They will send you a chute or two to try for size and comfort. I ended up with a seat pack wedge. Not to be confused with either their seat pack or their wedge, i.e.it was a seat pack packed in a wedge shape. In the Rocket or the 4 there isn't any room to put the chute behind you. And most seat packs are too tall. Very difficult to find a chute that will fit in there. BTW, I'm 5'10" and 170# The seat pack portion of my chute extends forward past the 404 bulkhead for thigh support. I had my container customized with velcro on the butt portion so I could add Temperfoam cushions as needed to tweak the fit. http://www.softieparachutes.com/html_files/product_line.html Call me if you need more info. Opinions are free!!! Vince Frazier 812-464-1839 work M-F 1946 Stinson, NC97535, FOR SALE F-1H Rocket, N540VF, Crazy Horse <http://www.usi.edu/science/chemistry/vfrazier/page1.html>


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    Time: 07:26:16 AM PST US
    From: "DAVID REEL" <dreel@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Drill Size???
    --> RV-List message posted by: "DAVID REEL" <dreel@cox.net> The right drill size to use depends on what goes in the hole. For example, a 3/16 drill is nominally .1875 inches in diameter. But AN3 bolts have some variance in size between individual bolts, and usually increase in diameter a little as you move up the shank and get close to the head. I have found that some bolts will slip right into a 3/16 inch hole whereas some bind up. In the latter case, using a #12 drill which is nominally .1890 inches in diameter, eliminates the problem. So, Van's advice to drill all holes with a #12 makes sense since it increases the chances that any bolt will go in any hole. Unless you are using precision bolts, as are used in the wing spar, there is little benefit to reaming standard bolt holes as the variation in bolt diameter defeats the goal of achieving a close, and therefore long lived, fit. The kit is engineered with standard construction practices in mind so there's no need to lengthen build times by making beautiful holes. But, if you get pleasure from the way a bolt slides into a precisely fitting hole with just a little friction telling you the fit is fine, well then, enjoy. Dave Reel - RV8A


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    Time: 09:01:16 AM PST US
    From: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us>
    Subject: Corrosion
    --> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us> I suggest you guys look at the FAA AC 43-4 about corrosion inspection. 1100 aluminum can corrode is when it is poorly covered, like in bad paint or plastic coating. Its called filliform corrosion and is caused by the fact that oxygen is semi kept away from the aluminum so it can't form a uniform oxide barrier. Therefore it continues to corrode under the paint/plastic. W


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    Time: 09:05:38 AM PST US
    From: Scott Brumbelow <csbrumbelow@fedex.com>
    Subject: Re: First flight decisons
    --> RV-List message posted by: Scott Brumbelow <csbrumbelow@fedex.com> Yes. Typically the engines will not be run for more than one or two hours at "the factory" - which means the same break-in considerations still apply. Scott in MEM RV-8A 12 hours "McFarland, Randy" wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "McFarland, Randy" <Randy.McFarland@novellus.com> > > Does this caution apply to engines that are run in to some extent at the > factory? > Thx for the word of caution, I had not read that anywhere. > R > > -----Original Message----- > From: Eustace Bowhay [mailto:ebowhay@jetstream.net] > To: rv list > Subject: RV-List: First flight decisons > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Eustace Bowhay" <ebowhay@jetstream.net> > > In addition to all that has been said on this subject one of the most > important items is the engine. > > If one is starting with a new or overhauled engine it is critical that > ground running be kept to an absolute minimum. For me this would be a > start-up and checking for any snags, clearing the snags if any then out to > the runway and gone. > > The reason for this is the engine needs to be run at power settings high > enough to seat the rings like 75% in cruise until the oil consumption > stabilizes. > > Taxiing and running up and down the runway will glaze the cylinders and you > will have a oil burner with the only cure being to pull the cylinders and > deglaze and new rings. > > This mean that the first flight should be done by someone that is current on > the RV and needs no practicing on the ground. > > Not trying to discourage anyone from doing the first flight but you have to > be honest with yourself and ask if your prepared to go under these > conditions. > > Eustace Bowhay Blind Bay, B.C. >


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    Time: 11:04:20 AM PST US
    From: Joel Haynes <joelhaynes@tds.net>
    Subject: re: IFR schools?
    --> RV-List message posted by: Joel Haynes <joelhaynes@tds.net> If you're serious about getting a real world IFR ticket that will give you the confidence to launch off into the weather on your own once you "graduate" then you need to check out the following link: http://www.ifrwest.com/ I completed this course in 1995 and it gave me the skills and confidence to take my family into the soup in busy class C airspace with fast-talking controllers. Morey's west coast IFR training course is unique among concentrated courses in that it takes place on a long cross country trip starting from Middleton, WI, heading to the pacific northwest, down the CA coast (thru San Francisco and SoCal airspace), across the desert southwest, across the Rockies and finally back across the bread basket to WI. Morey takes two students in a turbo C182RG complete with every bell and whistle imaginable (HSI, TCAS, Stormscope), Garmin 530, autopiolot, etc. etc.). Morey has 30,000 hours and is a designated examinar so your last three legs of the trip home are your checkride (Morey's father was a pioneer in WI aviation history. His pilot certificate was signed by Orville Wright). This course has been written up in AOPA Pilot and other aviation periodicals. You need 20 hours of actual or hood time to enroll and need to know the basics of shooting approaches. To start you spend three full days in WI getting checked out in the plane, flying a Frasca simulator, shooting a significant number of approaches, and lots of time in ground school. Then you are off for the one week cross country. Each student does 50% of the flying. You get as much actual as the weather allows. Much of the actual is flown partial panel. When you are in the clear, it's all hood time with full panel. The greatest thing about this trip is the wealth of experience that Morey has as well as the chance to fly in a new environment for every approach. Morey even has a graduate course now that goes to Alaska. You need your IFR ticket to even sign up for that one. Morey gets a significant number of "repeat offenders" that use his course as a refresher or a proficiency check. Most of his students come from around the country, not just Wisconsin. Contact me offline if you'd like any more of a testimonial. Joel Haynes Mazomanie, WI 7a fuse


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    Time: 11:32:22 AM PST US
    From: " bert murillo" <bert6@mybluelight.com>
    Subject: Re: [PLEASE READ] - Why Do I Have A Fund Raiser Each Year?
    --> RV-List message posted by: " bert murillo" <bert6@mybluelight.com> Mr. Dralle: I had written to you some months ago,on a question I had. I never rceived an answer, although I did posted the question, more than once. If you received this, let me know Thanks Bert Sign up for Internet Service under $10 dollars a month, at http://isp.BlueLight.com


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    Time: 12:33:14 PM PST US
    From: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
    Subject: multiple terminal boots, same terminal
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com> I'm wiring my engine ground strap to the firewall, and I'm bumping into something that has come up a couple of times so far...two or more wires going to the same terminal, and a conflict when you try to use terminal boots/nipples on all of the wire ends. I'm sure it's something very simple I'm missing, but what's the trick for getting multiple ring terminals protected when they're on the same terminal? Do most people just protect the "top" terminal? I may not even bother with a terminal boot here, since these are ground wires anyway...but in some cases there are hot (positive) terminals that I do want to protect, and I've been settling for kind of kludgy fits of terminal boots. Any tricks? Thanks in advance, )_( Dan RV-7 N714D http://www.rvproject.com


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    Time: 01:24:39 PM PST US
    From: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
    Subject: Re: multiple terminal boots, same terminal
    --> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com> Dan, I utilize heat shrink tubing in similar cases. Works great. Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan Checkoway <dan@rvproject.com> Subject: RV-List: multiple terminal boots, same terminal > --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com> > > I'm wiring my engine ground strap to the firewall, and I'm bumping into > something that has come up a couple of times so far...two or more wires > going to the same terminal, and a conflict when you try to use terminal > boots/nipples on all of the wire ends. > > I'm sure it's something very simple I'm missing, but what's the trick for > getting multiple ring terminals protected when they're on the same terminal? > Do most people just protect the "top" terminal? > > I may not even bother with a terminal boot here, since these are ground > wires anyway...but in some cases there are hot (positive) terminals that I > do want to protect, and I've been settling for kind of kludgy fits of > terminal boots. > > Any tricks? > > Thanks in advance, > )_( Dan > RV-7 N714D > http://www.rvproject.com > >


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    Time: 01:26:23 PM PST US
    From: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
    Subject: multiple terminal boots, same terminal
    --> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com> I'm getting forgetful lately!? I was gonna add that I don't cover grounds unless these is a positive lead in close proximity. Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: C. Rabaut <crabaut@coalinga.com> Subject: Re: RV-List: multiple terminal boots, same terminal > Dan, > > I utilize heat shrink tubing in similar cases. Works great. > > Chuck > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dan Checkoway <dan@rvproject.com> > To: <rv-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 2:33 PM > Subject: RV-List: multiple terminal boots, same terminal > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com> > > > > I'm wiring my engine ground strap to the firewall, and I'm bumping into > > something that has come up a couple of times so far...two or more wires > > going to the same terminal, and a conflict when you try to use terminal > > boots/nipples on all of the wire ends. > > > > I'm sure it's something very simple I'm missing, but what's the trick for > > getting multiple ring terminals protected when they're on the same > terminal? > > Do most people just protect the "top" terminal? > > > > I may not even bother with a terminal boot here, since these are ground > > wires anyway...but in some cases there are hot (positive) terminals that I > > do want to protect, and I've been settling for kind of kludgy fits of > > terminal boots. > > > > Any tricks? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > )_( Dan > > RV-7 N714D > > http://www.rvproject.com > > > > > > > > _-> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 01:44:14 PM PST US
    From: "Elsa & Henry" <elsa-henry@darlor-watch.com>
    Subject: Re: First flight decisons
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Elsa & Henry" <elsa-henry@darlor-watch.com> I have been on this list just about a year now, (didn't know it existed before--sure could have used it during building my 6-A) and I have read many posts during that time asking advice which was well covered in the builders manual THEN! Makes me wonder if manuals issued since mine (before 1995) have the same info.The cut and paste below is an example: > --> RV-List message posted by: "McFarland, Randy" <Randy.McFarland@novellus.com> > > Does this caution apply to engines that are run in to some extent at the > factory? > Thx for the word of caution, I had not read that anywhere. > R In my manual, Section 15,--PREPARATION AND INSPECTION OF THE ENGINE.---there is a note, quote: "---A serious engine break-in problem faces some amateur builders for which there is little guidance. For example, a newly overhauled engine with chromed cylinders, or a new engine, must be broken in properly. That is, the engine needs to be operate at high RPM and the temperatures kept low* or the piston rings will never seat Unfortunately, this means that the engine temperatures during initial ground operation will be critical and often the engine operations must be severely limited. This usually precludes prolonged taxi testing and high speed taxi tests------" *(This should read "high". See following paragraph.---H): "---When engine break-in is a concern, perform flight testing without the wheel fairings and gear leg fairings. This will add around 15% to the airframe drag and cause higher engine temperatures at any given forward speed.----" --Unquote. So my question is: Do the later or newer manuals cover the above and if so,-- are builders neglecting to READ THEIR MANUALS!! Cheers!! ----Henry Hore


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    Time: 02:13:10 PM PST US
    From: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
    Subject: Re: First flight decisons
    --> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com> Its in my manual which is 2 years old to the month. At 04:42 PM 11/21/03 -0500, you wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Elsa & Henry" <elsa-henry@darlor-watch.com> > >I have been on this list just about a year now, (didn't know it existed >before--sure could have used it during building my 6-A) and I have read many >posts during that time asking advice which was well covered in the builders >manual THEN! Makes me wonder if manuals issued since mine (before 1995) have >the same info.The cut and paste below is an example: > >> --> RV-List message posted by: "McFarland, Randy" ><Randy.McFarland@novellus.com> >> >> Does this caution apply to engines that are run in to some extent at the >> factory? >> Thx for the word of caution, I had not read that anywhere. >> R > >In my manual, Section 15,--PREPARATION AND INSPECTION OF THE >ENGINE.---there is a note, quote: > >"---A serious engine break-in problem faces some amateur builders for which >there is little guidance. For example, a newly overhauled engine with >chromed cylinders, or a new engine, must be broken in properly. That is, the >engine needs to be operate at high RPM and the temperatures kept low* or the >piston rings will never seat Unfortunately, this means that the engine >temperatures during initial ground operation will be critical and often the >engine operations must be severely limited. This usually precludes prolonged >taxi testing and high speed taxi tests------" >*(This should read "high". See following paragraph.---H): >"---When engine break-in is a concern, perform flight testing without the >wheel fairings and gear leg fairings. This will add around 15% to the >airframe drag and cause higher engine temperatures at any given forward >speed.----" --Unquote. > >So my question is: Do the later or newer manuals cover the above and if >so,-- are builders neglecting to READ THEIR MANUALS!! > >Cheers!! ----Henry Hore > > Scott Bilinski Eng dept 305 Phone (858) 657-2536 Pager (858) 502-5190


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    Time: 02:47:30 PM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: Really Nice Comments...
    --> RV-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com> Dear Listers, We're nearing the end of this year's List Fund Raiser and I wanted to share some of the really nice comments members have been making about the Lists and what the Lists mean to them. Please take a moment to read over some of the thought's members have shared with me in the last couple of weeks regarding the Lists. Its pretty awesome. If you haven't taken a moment to show your support for the operation and upgrade of these services, won't you do so now? These Lists are operated solely through the $20 or $30 contribution you make each year. Without your yearly support, the Lists may cease to exist in the future. It takes your resources to keep these systems up. Remember, there's no advertising budget to keep things afloat. I think pretty much everyone appreciates the fact that I don't have any pop-ads or flashing banners of any kind on the List. Your support assures it will stay that way. Please make your contribution today and, in one small, way fight off the every increasing commercialism creep that is taking over the Internet!! :-) The SSL Secure web site for making your List Contribution can be found here: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you to everyone that has already showed their support for the List!! Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ======== Awesome Comments From Members Regarding The Lists ========= Absolutely essential information for any homebuilder. - Owen B. I get so much information from the List... - Paul L. [The List has] bailed me out more than once. - Hap S. Nothing is free, even though there is no price tag on it. I donate what I can afford. I hope this little bit helps offset expenses. - John H. I consider this list the most important tool in my possession for building an aircraft! - Don G. I have received many helpful tips by checking the List daily. - Ronald M. The advice and information that I have received from the List has saved me many hours of head-scratching and at least five thousand dollars... -Kevin H. Your List has been waaay COOL for years. - Charles R. My favorite subscription and a bargain too. - Hal K. Many thanks for the constant upgrades and all. - Dennis N. ...you've given us a great resource! - John V. I appreciate your keeping this List on such an even level... - Robert N. A few weeks ago I was looking to buy a metal brake/shear. One of your Listers told me how to save $130 off the $500 price and provided some other excellent suggestions on how to use it. - Terrence W. ...excellent service. - Hans-Peter R. This List has saved me lots of time and improved my project in many ways. - Jordan G. Talking with others is a real confidence builder. - Hap S. Thx sooooo much for this resource from a first time builder!! - Randy M. Recently discovered [your] really a great site! - Lieven B. Great List! - Paul P. ...very valuable tool. - Chris D. Read the digest every morning... - Ken B. Your Lists continue to educate, amuse, sometimes annoy, and mostly inspire me. - Chris R. ...excellent source if information. - Mike R. Your Lists have been most helpful to my RV-9A. - Dean V. You're make a significant contribution to us getting our aircraft in the air more safely and quickly through the knowledge and experience of others. - Charles L. [The List] has helped me avoid some costly mistakes! -Ronald M. Great service! - David P. ...a very informative list. - Derek L. I've been checking the RV List for the past 7 years and it has been very helpful. - Dann P. I can't imagine NOT having the RV list as a resource while building my RV-7! - Dwight F. Great list. I lurk a lot and get great knowledge from Bob et al. - Mark B. I find something every day on the RV lis that helps me in my RV-4 project. - Ron P. The Kolb List has helped me in many ways. Has gotten me in contact with and made many new friends and probably a few enemies too... - John H. Those who do not contribute are finks! - Hal K. When I run into a problem I search the Lists and can get several solutions. - Paul L. The build process would be twice as difficult without it. - Hap S. Great service. - F.R. M. ...it's a pleasure to be part of this generous community of builder/pilots. - Ron P. Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft do not archive


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    Time: 04:19:12 PM PST US
    From: "Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club" <sisson@consolidated.net>
    Subject: Re: Corrosion
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club" <sisson@consolidated.net> Wheeler North wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us> > > I suggest you guys look at the FAA AC 43-4 about corrosion inspection. > > 1100 aluminum can corrode is when it is poorly covered, like in bad paint or > plastic coating. > > Its called filliform corrosion and is caused by the fact that oxygen is semi > kept away from the aluminum so it can't form a uniform oxide barrier. > Therefore it continues to corrode under the paint/plastic. > > W And then there is intergranular corrosion. Sometime this cant even be seen until the damage is done. Phil do not archive


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    Time: 07:38:59 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Corrosion
    From: Boyd Braem <bcbraem@comcast.net>
    --> RV-List message posted by: Boyd Braem <bcbraem@comcast.net> On Friday, November 21, 2003, at 09:21 PM, Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic > Club" <sisson@consolidated.net> > > Wheeler North wrote: > >> --> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us> >> >> I suggest you guys look at the FAA AC 43-4 about corrosion inspection. >> >> 1100 aluminum can corrode is when it is poorly covered, like in bad >> paint or >> plastic coating. >> >> Its called filliform corrosion and is caused by the fact that oxygen >> is semi >> kept away from the aluminum so it can't form a uniform oxide barrier. >> Therefore it continues to corrode under the paint/plastic. >> >> W > > And then there is intergranular corrosion. Sometime this cant even be > seen until > the damage is done. > > Phil Yeah, and then there is "just ignore it" corrosion, sometimes initiated by bird droppings, not wiping off "love bugs" or flying too low over salt water (I never did that, tho)--sometimes the corrosion is related to how flat the tires are or how much accumulated dust/dirt is on the canopy/windscreen. I guess I'll have to move my electron microscope out to the hangar to figure it out. Boyd. do not archive > > do not archive > > > _- > ======================================================================= > _-> _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > > > >




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