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1. 12:02 AM - Re: Really long winded Icing dribble, was : When the vibration stops (Bruce Gray)
2. 01:57 AM - Deburring in impossible? places. (jakent@unison.ie)
3. 04:26 AM - Re: Really long winded Icing dribble, was : When the (Kevin Horton)
4. 05:13 AM - Re: LightSPEED 3G series and LG TP 5250 (Lenleg@aol.com)
5. 05:13 AM - Re: Cockpit Lights (Lenleg@aol.com)
6. 05:20 AM - Re: Really long winded Icing dribble, was : When the vibration stops (Gert)
7. 05:45 AM - Re: deburring in impossible places (j1j2h3@juno.com)
8. 05:54 AM - Re: Really long winded Icing dribble, was : When the vibration (linn walters)
9. 06:17 AM - Re: Really long winded Icing dribble, was : When the vibration stops (Kosta Lewis)
10. 06:42 AM - Wright flyer up (Kosta Lewis)
11. 06:53 AM - Corsair: off subject (Doug Rozendaal)
12. 06:55 AM - Re: Really long winded Icing dribble, was : When the vibration stops (Doug Rozendaal)
13. 06:58 AM - Re: Really long winded Icing dribble, was : When the vibration stops (Jeff Orear)
14. 07:09 AM - Re: Really long winded Icing dribble, (Jim Oke)
15. 07:38 AM - Re: deburring in impossible places (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
16. 09:12 AM - Re: Corsair: off subject (Hal Rozema)
17. 09:56 AM - Re: Rv-list spark Plugs (Jack Lockamy)
18. 11:16 AM - Re: Corsair: off subject (Elsa & Henry)
19. 11:19 AM - Re: Wright Flyer down. (Randy Compton)
20. 11:44 AM - Re: Wright Flyer down. (Randy Compton)
21. 11:44 AM - Re: Wright flyer up (Randy Compton)
22. 12:00 PM - Re: empennage tip attachment (kempthornes)
23. 12:17 PM - Re: LightSPEED 3G and Cell Phone (RobHickman@aol.com)
24. 12:34 PM - Last "Official" Day To Make Your List Contribution!! (Matt Dralle)
25. 12:43 PM - Re: Really long winded Icing dribble, was : When the vibration stops (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
26. 12:53 PM - Re: Corsair: off subject (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
27. 01:02 PM - Re: Last "Official" Day To Make Your List Contribution!! (a flyer)
28. 01:54 PM - Going faster (Glen Matejcek)
29. 02:39 PM - Propeller performance testing (LeastDrag93066@aol.com)
30. 02:44 PM - Re: Going faster (Jim Oke)
31. 03:23 PM - Re: Wright Flyer down. (C. Rabaut)
32. 04:19 PM - Thw Wright stuff (JOHN STARN)
33. 04:49 PM - Re: Really long winded Icing dribble, was : When the vibration stops (HCRV6@aol.com)
34. 05:52 PM - Re: Thw Wright stuff (Randy Compton)
35. 05:53 PM - Re: When the vibration stops (Fred Stucklen)
36. 06:14 PM - Re: Long winded icing dribble (Jim Nolan)
37. 06:16 PM - Lasar or Lightspeed? (Bobby Hester)
38. 06:21 PM - RV9A Empty Weights (Roger Evenson)
39. 07:13 PM - Turn and Bank - RC Allen vs Electrical Gyro Corp? (Kevin Horton)
40. 07:38 PM - Re;Going Faster (Oldsfolks@aol.com)
41. 08:43 PM - Re: Lasar or Lightspeed? (Brian Denk)
42. 08:49 PM - Dimple problem (BGCrook@aol.com)
43. 09:04 PM - Re:Really long winded Icing dribble (j1j2h3@juno.com)
44. 09:50 PM - Re: Propeller performance testing (Tracy Crook)
45. 10:45 PM - Handheld question (JOHN STARN)
46. 10:57 PM - Re: Re: When the vibration stops & Carb Heat (GMC)
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| Subject: | Really long winded Icing dribble, was : When the vibration |
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Bruce Gray" <Bruce@glasair.org>
High horsepower engine needed a big prop. It was the best way to get tip
clearance.
Bruce
www.glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Boyd Braem
Subject: Re: RV-List: Really long winded Icing dribble, was : When the
vibration stops
--> RV-List message posted by: Boyd Braem <bcbraem@comcast.net>
Doug--excellent post--I hope everybody (esp. lower time pilots) (and
that is not an insult--it's just practical sense) reads it.
So, Doug, what do you think about "light" IFR? "I'm just going to fly
(up or down?) thru a layer or two"
Any one who can spool up a Corsair (fire those cartridges) and buzz it
around, isn't all bad. Whispering Death comes home.
Tho, can any one say why they put that dip in the F-4U Corsair's wing?
Boyd.
Super-6
do not archive
On Saturday, November 29, 2003, at 11:12 PM, Doug Rozendaal wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com>
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| Subject: | Deburring in impossible? places. |
--> RV-List message posted by: jakent@unison.ie
Try a Cogsdill deburring tool - like a plain shaft with a retractable blade on
the side. Spin it up in a drill motor, push in to deburr the front of the hole,
pull back to deburr the rear - simple, but (very) expensive. E-Bay sometimes
has them at an affordable price - sometimes in batches.
Wish I'd found them sooner. J.Kent RV-4 #3254 (almost!).
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| Subject: | Re: Really long winded Icing dribble, was : When the |
vibration stops
--> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com> vibration stops
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com>
>
>The only way to fly IFR out here in the winter is to "manage ice" Ice is
>like turbulence, there is almost always some, and it is usually not a big
>deal. Without knowing the WX pattern etc, I don't know what Jim's plan was
>or should have been, but "plan" is the key word and with a "plan" usually
>you can "manage" ice pretty effectively. Flying IFR in the winter up north
>is not for marginal instrument pilots. Flying and navigating needs to be
>easy enough for the pilot to leave plenty of mental horsepower available for
>gathering weather information and planning.
>
All of Doug's post was right on the mark in my experience. The
weather guys don't have the tools to accurately forecast where the
ice will be, so they cover their butt by putting out a blanket
statement about icing in cloud above the freezing level. Quite often
there is nothing there, but you had better have a plan on what to do
if there is ice before you stick your nose in the cloud.
One thing I've learned from icing flight testing - with layer type
cloud there is often a very thin layer of icing conditions about 50
ft below the cloud tops. So don't linger near the top of a layer of
cloud.
I've done a fair bit of flight testing with simulated ice glued on
the leading edges of wings and tails. In general aircraft fly just
fine with ice on the airframe, except for a drag increase, and around
a 40% loss in maximum lift. That would translate into about a 20%
increase in stall speed. But, your prop will be collecting ice too,
so your available thrust will be decreasing significantly as the prop
turns into a baseball bat. So don't waste any time getting out of
the ice. If I had to chose between having prop ice protection or
airframe ice protection, I would pick the prop ice protection every
time.
--
Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit)
Ottawa, Canada
http://go.phpwebhosting.com/~khorton/rv8/
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| Subject: | Re: LightSPEED 3G series and LG TP 5250 |
--> RV-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
In a message dated 11/25/2003 2:36:10 PM Eastern Standard Time,
richterrbb@earthlink.net writes:
> First off, I tried the archives and couldn't find any pertinent info, so
> (grasp nose and jump) . . .
>
> Does anyone on the list have any experience with the LightSPEED 3G
> series ANR headsets and LG cell phones, specifically, the TP 5250.
> (LightSPEED told me that LG has not provided them any info, so their
> phones don't appear in the compatibility list.) If so, does it need an
> adaptor? Is it loud enough with the engine running?
>
> Naturally, I'll try to get to some local pilot shops to see if they have
> a demo to try it on. If so, I'll post the results.
>
> Feel free to respond off line.
>
> Thanks in advance!
> Randy
Randy:
I have the 3Gs and use a Motorolla cell phone. Sorry to say that so far it
has been too noisy in the plane ... great when taxiing.
Len Leggette, RV-8A
Greensboro, NC N910LL
171 hrs
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| Subject: | Re: Cockpit Lights |
--> RV-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
In a message dated 11/20/2003 8:48:00 AM Eastern Standard Time,
pat_hatch@msn.com writes:
> Question for those who have used the eyeball lights...how well do you think
> they would work as map lights instead of instrument flood lights? Are they
> bright enough for this purpose do you think?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Pat Hatch
>
This is exactly what I use mine for. I used the flat light strips by
Aerotronics under my glareshield area for lighting the instruments. I don't think
I
would have been happy at all had I used the eyeballs for my only instrument
lighting. I think they work great for map reading. They swivel and I have one
on each side so I can direct them pretty efficiently.
Are you going to the Lakeland RV Fly In in January?
Len Leggette, RV-8A
Greensboro, NC N910LL
171 hrs
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| Subject: | Re: Really long winded Icing dribble, was : When the vibration |
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--> RV-List message posted by: Gert <gert@execpc.com>
AND it needed a sturdy landing gear for carrier operations, this way the
gear was kept short and stubby whilst saving on weight at the same time
uttelizing the max prop and engine combo.
Bruce Gray wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Bruce Gray" <Bruce@glasair.org>
>
> High horsepower engine needed a big prop. It was the best way to get tip
> clearance.
>
> Bruce
> www.glasair.org
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Boyd Braem
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Really long winded Icing dribble, was : When the
> vibration stops
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> --> RV-List message posted by: Boyd Braem <bcbraem@comcast.net>
>
> Doug--excellent post--I hope everybody (esp. lower time pilots) (and
> that is not an insult--it's just practical sense) reads it.
>
> So, Doug, what do you think about "light" IFR? "I'm just going to fly
> (up or down?) thru a layer or two"
>
> Any one who can spool up a Corsair (fire those cartridges) and buzz it
> around, isn't all bad. Whispering Death comes home.
>
> Tho, can any one say why they put that dip in the F-4U Corsair's wing?
>
> Boyd.
> Super-6
>
> do not archive
> On Saturday, November 29, 2003, at 11:12 PM, Doug Rozendaal wrote:
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| Subject: | Re: deburring in impossible places |
--> RV-List message posted by: j1j2h3@juno.com
I've used the following on other jobs with a Dremel tool - it might work
for deburring too. Cut a coarse (red) Scotchbrite pad into small squares
(about 1-1/2 inches). Fasten one of these to the end of the Dremel
adapter that is normally used for sanding disks. No need to round off
the edges of the square - they will round off in the first second or so
of use. These wear out fairly rapidly, but the cost is very low. You
might also try stacking several of the squares on at once.
Jim Hasper - RV-7 just starting empennage (setting up shop in Franklin,
Tennessee)
--> RV-List message posted by: "lucky macy" <luckymacy@hotmail.com>
(snip)
>I was wondering if there was a dremel tool dubur tool or something
similar
>that did good job. The grinding stones I've always seen are too coarse
for
>this job.
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| Subject: | Re: Really long winded Icing dribble, was : When the vibration |
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--> RV-List message posted by: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
Boyd Braem wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Boyd Braem <bcbraem@comcast.net>
>
>Any one who can spool up a Corsair (fire those cartridges) and buzz it
>around, isn't all bad. Whispering Death comes home.
>
>Tho, can any one say why they put that dip in the F-4U Corsair's wing?
>
Absolutely! It was the only way to raise the fuselage up high enough
for that big prop to clear the ground without having long spindly gear.
You have to remember that the Corsair's landings were intended to be
'severe' at the very least and would be considered to be controlled
crashes in comparison to ours. OK, sometimes we have them too!
Linn (one trap)
do not archive
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>Boyd.
>Super-6
>
>do not archive
>On Saturday, November 29, 2003, at 11:12 PM, Doug Rozendaal wrote:
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| Subject: | Really long winded Icing dribble, was : When the vibration |
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Kosta Lewis" <mikel@dimensional.com>
>> Tho, can any one say why they put that dip in the F-4U Corsair's
wing?
>
>AND it needed a sturdy landing gear for carrier operations, this way
the
>gear was kept short and stubby whilst saving on weight at the same time
>utilizing the max prop and engine combo.
AND it looked really cool............
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Kosta Lewis" <mikel@dimensional.com>
>Sorry, but it's hard for me to get too excited about this centennial
thing,
>seeing as Orville has been morphed into a woman for the "First Flight"
>reenactment........
My word. How does one respond to that?
Yeah, I'm bumbed too that they didn't find two brothers, one sort of
skinny, one a little chubby to do the flying. And what do these
whippersnappers know about bicycles anyway, I'd like to know? And, Lord
knows, having some WOMAN fly the thing; think how that is going to
inspire more WOMEN to get into aviation. Too bad. What are the Good Ol'
Boys gonna think about that? That is certainly going to distract ME from
celebrating one of the most amazing feats in human history that has
since inspired us all and given us the tools to take to the air. This
should NOT also be a celebration of the cross section of people involved
in aviation! I spit on the ground. HA. Who ever thought this should be a
celebration of the aviation community and what a wonderful, diverse
activity it has become? I want the MOVIE.......
Oh, wait. I'll bet you were being serious. This wasn't a joke? Sorry.
Michael
Do not archive.
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| Subject: | Corsair: off subject |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com>
A couple points on the Corsair, first, I have never seen one that started
with a cartridge, There could have been, but all the ones I know about
start with a electric starter. Some inertia, some direct cranking.
As to the gear many have correctly pointed out the reason why the wings are
bent, but the neat thing about the Corsair is the gear system. If you look
at a Corsair on the ground, the struts are always flat, (at least they
should be) The struts extend to some great length when you take off and
then when you retract the gear, a cable collapses them so the wheels will
fit in the gear well. The down lock and the uplock are the same overcenter
mechanism. The rotation is accomplished by a universal joint which is
fixed at a 45 deg angle and turns the wheel as the retraction occurs. All
the monkey motion in the gear well is amazing. I understand how the up and
down locks work in theory, but when you look in the gear well, they are
still a mystery.
On landing, the strut is really just a shock absorber, it has no rebound. I
have never made a bad landing in the Corsair, I can't imagine what it would
take to bounce it! It is like landing on a whoopie cushion, and if you put
in a bunch of aileron in a cross wind, the downwind wing will come up, but
the tire is still on the ground and the brake is available if you need it.
An amazing Airplane!!! And what wonderful ailerons!!!! a whole 'nother
story....
Tailwinds,
Doug Rozendaal
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Really long winded Icing dribble, was : When the vibration |
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com>
All,
I got several nice comments about the icing article this morning. Thank you
all, and while I appreciate the mail, It is Matt that makes this possible
and it is time to send him some $$$$$
Click here:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Tailwinds,
Doug Rozendaal
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| Subject: | Re: Really long winded Icing dribble, was : When the vibration |
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Orear" <jorear@new.rr.com>
Also, for carrier ops a long legged airplane would have trouble. The bent
wing shortened the gear legs.
Regards,
Jeff Orear
RV6A
canopy skirts
Peshtigo, WI
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Gray" <Bruce@glasair.org>
Subject: RE: RV-List: Really long winded Icing dribble, was : When the
vibration stops
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Bruce Gray" <Bruce@glasair.org>
>
> High horsepower engine needed a big prop. It was the best way to get tip
> clearance.
>
> Bruce
> www.glasair.org
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Boyd Braem
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Really long winded Icing dribble, was : When the
> vibration stops
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Boyd Braem <bcbraem@comcast.net>
>
> Doug--excellent post--I hope everybody (esp. lower time pilots) (and
> that is not an insult--it's just practical sense) reads it.
>
> So, Doug, what do you think about "light" IFR? "I'm just going to fly
> (up or down?) thru a layer or two"
>
> Any one who can spool up a Corsair (fire those cartridges) and buzz it
> around, isn't all bad. Whispering Death comes home.
>
> Tho, can any one say why they put that dip in the F-4U Corsair's wing?
>
> Boyd.
> Super-6
>
> do not archive
> On Saturday, November 29, 2003, at 11:12 PM, Doug Rozendaal wrote:
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com>
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| Subject: | Re: Really long winded Icing dribble, |
was : When the vibration stops
--> RV-List message posted by: Jim Oke <wjoke@shaw.ca> was : When the vibration
stops
Well, life is just full of compromises! The Corsair used a very elegant
solution to the prop clearance and landing gear problem but ended up with a
very complex wing centre section to manufacture. The Grumman Wildcat series
had a much simpler wing and fuselage arrangement and did almost the same
job. Result was that Grumman was able to tool up and produce and send to the
war a lot more Wildcats than the various companies building Corsairs could.
There was some other reason that the Corsair ended up with that aft located
cockpit which made carrier landings just that little bit more "exciting".
All this was beat to death in the Corky Meyer series awhile back in one of
the aviation mags. He was a long-time Grumman guy so that may have coloured
his comments a bit.
Jim Oke
RV-6A, RV-3
Winnipeg, MB
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Kosta Lewis" <mikel@dimensional.com>
Subject: RE: RV-List: Really long winded Icing dribble, was : When the
vibration stops
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Kosta Lewis" <mikel@dimensional.com>
>
> >> Tho, can any one say why they put that dip in the F-4U Corsair's
> wing?
> >
>
> >AND it needed a sturdy landing gear for carrier operations, this way
> the
> >gear was kept short and stubby whilst saving on weight at the same time
>
> >utilizing the max prop and engine combo.
>
>
> AND it looked really cool............
>
> Do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: deburring in impossible places |
--> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com
I made a real handy de-burring tool with a standard 3-flute countersink bit-
just find a piece of reinforced rubber hose about 1-1/2" long that snugly fits
the shank and a 6" piece of wooden doweling the same size. (I use 1/4") Plug
this together for a real handy deburrer. You can work down a line of holes
in no time by just poking it in a hole and giving a couple of twirls. Since
the rubber hose is always bent just a little, it deburrs nicely because the
angle of the bit varies as you spin it around. Plus for those tight spots, just
unplug the dowel and use the hose as a handle. REAL tight spots, just use the
countersink...
P.S. Took a picture last week of my LAST SKIN RIVET!! WOOHOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!
From The PossumWorks in TN
Mark - N51PW fuse is at the field!! Wrestling with warped #%&@X
Z@ sheared
wingtips!!
> --> RV-List message posted by: "lucky macy" <luckymacy@hotmail.com>
> (snip)
> >I was wondering if there was a dremel tool dubur tool or something
> similar
> >that did good job. The grinding stones I've always seen are too coarse
> for
> >this job.
>
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| Subject: | Re: Corsair: off subject |
--> RV-List message posted by: Hal Rozema <hartist1@cox.net>
Interesting side bar to the Corsair story.
Roosevelt gave a go ahead to produce the corsair in large numbers even though
the navy Department said they didn't want them.... to risky to land by straight
in approach to carriers (nose blanketed the entire carrier when nose high in
slow flight). this was before we had entered the war.
Churchill was begging for aircraft and Roosevelt said we've a bunch of carrier
planes at a factory up at (I think) Bethpage New York. Send your pilots and a
carrier. The British pilots flew them out to Arc Royal (I think) landed aboard
and steamed for UK. In route they were diverted to chase Bismarck. The
Corsairs flew first combat against the German ship with British pilots doing the
flying. Landings were no problem because the Brits landing technique was a
circular landing track so the LO and carrier were always to the left of the nose
and ahead of the wing
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Jack Lockamy" <jacklockamy@att.net>
Contact Jeanne Fenimore at Aircraft Spark Plug Service in Van Nuys, CA (818) 787-5680.
She will re-condition your used plugs to like new condition for only $3.50 per
plug, or you can buy reconditioned plugs from her (no exchange) for $7.50 each.
If you want to purchase brand new un-used Champion Plugs, she sells those for
about $13.50 if I remember correctly.
Good service and quick turn-around.....
Jack Lockamy
Camarillo, CA
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| Subject: | Re: Corsair: off subject |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Elsa & Henry" <elsa-henry@darlor-watch.com>
I can attest to Hal's description of carrier landings by British pilots re
the circular base/final approaches. In 1946 I was on HMS Venerable, a 14000
ton light Fleet carrier base in Hong Kong just after the war. We had
Corsairs and Fairey Fireflies on board. Our sister ship HMS Thesius had
Fireflies and Seafires.We used to go out to sea together for flying
exercises including Fireflies of 814 squadron based at Kai-Tak airport. My
ship, achieved the record for number of aircraft landings in 6 minutes--7-
and in those days we didn't have angled flight-decks and as every A/C
landed, the arrester wire was manually released, the crash barrier was
lowered and the pilot hurriedly taxied the 'plane to the forard deck and the
arrester wire was retracted and the crash barrier raised for the next
landing. All in less than a minute!
I was a Pilot wannabe but when the end of the Jap war concluded my training
ceased and I was remustered into the airborne Radar business which was my
trade on the carrier.
The thing that broke my heart was that all the Corsairs that were on board
were pushed overboard in the Strait of Malacca on our return to England, in
compliance of the terms of Lend-Lease!
Cheers!!-----Henry Hore
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| Subject: | Re: Wright Flyer down. |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Randy Compton" <thecomptons@bellsouth.net>
> >
> If it had been a woman who made the first flight do you think they would
> consider a man for the reinactment?
>
In this day and age...well, you ever heard of the Chance brothers: Slim,
Fat, and None?
V/R,
Sluggo
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| Subject: | Re: Wright Flyer down. |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Randy Compton" <thecomptons@bellsouth.net>
> They'll flip a coin to decide whether Terry Queijo (the Gal)or
> Kevin Kochersberger The guy (I think)get the flight. But since she
crashed it ......
> Linn
>
OK, so Wilbur got morphed into a woman by the PC crowd. :-)
Anyhow, the fact that a female is there as a crewmember means it sure isn't
a historically accurate reenactment of the Wright Brothers event. I mean,
why go to all the fuss to be absolutely, positively sure that the Wright
Flyer is a dead-on reproduction, stage the event at Kill Devil Hill, all for
historical accuracy you see, but then come up with this?
Predictably, there are those who don't get it and see this as just some
anti-woman-in-aviation thing. Not at all. Got nothin' to do with good ol'
boys, etc. Celebrating diversity is one thing, staging an accurate
reenactment of an historical event is another. All I'm saying is that
apparently the accuracy part stops at the airplane itself.
For me, I think I'll just try to time my takeoff for 1035EST on 17Dec03.
What a cool entry in the logbook that will be. And frankly, I won't care
less about who's at the controls of the Wright Flyer reproduction at that
same time.
What a great country!
RC
P.S. My money's on the chick to win the toss.
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| Subject: | Re: Wright flyer up |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Randy Compton" <thecomptons@bellsouth.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kosta Lewis" <mikel@dimensional.com>
Subject: RV-List: Wright flyer up
>Who ever thought this should be a
> celebration of the aviation community and what a wonderful, diverse
> activity it has become? > Michael
Exactly! It's not about history, it is about celebrating diversity.
Thank you for agreeing with me...usually we don't.
RC
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| Subject: | Re: empennage tip attachment |
--> RV-List message posted by: kempthornes <kempthornes@earthlink.net>
At 11:06 AM 11/28/2003 -0600, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie & Tupper England <cengland@netdoor.com>
>
>Has anyone attached their empennage tips using a bonding adhesive
>instead of the recommended cs4-4 rivets?
I wouldn't think there would be much risk to trying it. Might use a rivet
or two also.
My first thought is about expansion and if the bond could withstand it or
if it would even be enough to matter. I guess it could be tried on a strip
of aluminum then heated and cooled etc.
Couldn't help but look better!
K. H. (Hal) Kempthorne
RV6-a N7HK - Three trips to OSH now.
PRB (El Paso de Robles, CA)
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| Subject: | Re: LightSPEED 3G and Cell Phone |
--> RV-List message posted by: RobHickman@aol.com
I have the LightSpeed 3G headsets and they work very well with my Nokia/AT&T
service. Occasionally I forget to turn the phone off in flight and I get a
call :)
Last year on my way to OSH @ 12,500 over the Blue Mountains (Oops forgot
again!) the phone rang and it was my friend Peter "So what are you doing?" I
replied "I am going to OSH, I am over the Blue Mountains" Peter "You are not the
call is to clear" me "yes, I am in the plane over the Blue Mountains with two
other RV's and the cell phone police are going to be waiting for me when I land
in Helena"
I did lose the call after about 4 minutes and no sign of the cell phone
police in Helena.
Rob Hickman
RV-4 N401RH
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| Subject: | Last "Official" Day To Make Your List Contribution!! |
--> RV-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Dear Listers,
Well, its November 30th and that means three things...
1) Today I am officially 40 years old (sympathy is appreciated)!
2) It marks that last "official" day of the List Fund Raiser!
3) Its the last day I will be bugging everyone for a whole year! :-)
If you use the Lists and enjoy the content and the no-advertising, no-spam,
and no-censorship way in which they're run, please make a Contribution
today to support their continued operation and upkeep. Your $20 or $30
goes a long way to further the List operation and keep the bills paid.
A Lister wrote a funny message in the comments field of his Contribution
today that I thought summed up the whole situation:
"Worth every penny and I'm a tightwad!"
Thank you to everyone that has made a Contribution so far this year! It is
greatly appreciated.
Contributions: http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email
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| Subject: | Re: Really long winded Icing dribble, was : When the vibration |
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--> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com
In a message dated 11/30/03 8:18:43 AM Central Standard Time,
mikel@dimensional.com writes:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Kosta Lewis" <mikel@dimensional.com>
>
> >>Tho, can any one say why they put that dip in the F-4U Corsair's
> wing?
> >
>
> >AND it needed a sturdy landing gear for carrier operations, this way
> the
> >gear was kept short and stubby whilst saving on weight at the same time
>
> >utilizing the max prop and engine combo.
>
>
> AND it looked really cool............
Another one I heard is that the lowest drag wing/fuse intersection is at 90
degrees...
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| Subject: | Re: Corsair: off subject |
--> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com
> All the monkey motion in the gear well is amazing. I understand how the up
> and
> down locks work in theory, but when you look in the gear well, they are
> still a mystery.
Stand under a C-17 and figure THAT one out sometime you've got some time to
kill- ( ! ) The folks that did those must have lived in padded cells
and used REALLY good drugs! 8-)
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| Subject: | Re: Last "Official" Day To Make Your List Contribution!! |
--> RV-List message posted by: a flyer <aflyer@direcway.com>
Ha! I bet you don't get much sympathy from THIS list...did you see Henry
Hore's post earlier this morning?
Get your contributions in you slackers!
John Huft
RV8 140 hours
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From: "Matt Dralle" <dralle@matronics.com>
Subject: RV-List: Last "Official" Day To Make Your List Contribution!!
> --> RV-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
>
>
> Dear Listers,
>
> Well, its November 30th and that means three things...
>
> 1) Today I am officially 40 years old (sympathy is appreciated)!
>
> 2) It marks that last "official" day of the List Fund Raiser!
>
> 3) Its the last day I will be bugging everyone for a whole year!
:-)
>
> If you use the Lists and enjoy the content and the no-advertising,
no-spam,
> and no-censorship way in which they're run, please make a Contribution
> today to support their continued operation and upkeep. Your $20 or $30
> goes a long way to further the List operation and keep the bills paid.
>
> A Lister wrote a funny message in the comments field of his Contribution
> today that I thought summed up the whole situation:
>
> "Worth every penny and I'm a tightwad!"
>
> Thank you to everyone that has made a Contribution so far this year! It
is
> greatly appreciated.
>
> Contributions: http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
> Best regards,
>
> Matt Dralle
> Email List Admin.
>
>
> Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
> 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email
> http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
>
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>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Glen Matejcek" <aerobubba@earthlink.net>
Kevin et al aero guys-
The machine I operate for a living has three (relatively) small vg's
protruding fwd from the underside of the outboard LE of each wing. The
vortices they create seem to counter the normal spanwise flow on the
underside of the wing. Glycol trails indicate that the airflow in this
region run straight back until reaching the aileron LE, then some outboard
flow is indicated. Do you have any idea how tricky / hazardous it would be
to try and incorporate this technology into our RV's? Pros / cons?
Enquiring minds want to know...
Glen Matejcek
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| Subject: | Propeller performance testing |
--> RV-List message posted by: LeastDrag93066@aol.com
Hi All,
Just received my copy of the RVator, and read their report on propeller
performance testing.
Just thought I would add my 2 cents.
I have been getting performance data on an RV-6A with a Lyc. O-360-A1A engine
and a Hartzell 2 blade propeller (HC-C2YK-ABF/F7666A-4).
Please note that the airspeed system is uncalibrated. Since the total
difference in airspeeds measured was only about 2 per cent of the total airspeed,
it
should still be fairly accurate data.
The data I collected was at 7,500 feet pressure altitude with the engine at
full throttle.
gph RPM TIAS (mph)
11.2 2700 201
10.5 2600 203
10.1 2500 203
8.8 2400 200
7.9 2300 199
gph = fuel flow in gallons per hour
Jim Ayers
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| Subject: | Re: Going faster |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jim Oke <wjoke@shaw.ca>
The wingtip vortex situation is at it's least harmful when in high speed
cruise flight so spanwise flow prevention is probably not the reason to add
VGs at this location. More likely, IMHO and without looking at the actual
wing, the vortices are intended to add some extra energy to the upper
surface airflow at high angles of attack to reduce flow separation at the
trailing edge of the wing. This would keep the flow attached in the vicinity
of the ailerons and improve roll control in slow flight.
Short, stubby, (well, let's be nice and say low aspect ratio) wings as found
on the RV series already have lots of tip vortices at high angles of attack
that keep the flow attached at the tips plus the usual Van's slotted aileron
gap feature keeps the ailerons effective through and above the stalling
angle of attack. Adding VGs to this situation won't make much difference to
slow flight characteristics and will add drag at high speeds slowing the
aircraft down
Jim Oke
Wpg, MB.
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From: "Glen Matejcek" <aerobubba@earthlink.net>
Subject: RV-List: Going faster
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Glen Matejcek" <aerobubba@earthlink.net>
>
> Kevin et al aero guys-
>
> The machine I operate for a living has three (relatively) small vg's
> protruding fwd from the underside of the outboard LE of each wing. The
> vortices they create seem to counter the normal spanwise flow on the
> underside of the wing. Glycol trails indicate that the airflow in this
> region run straight back until reaching the aileron LE, then some outboard
> flow is indicated. Do you have any idea how tricky / hazardous it would
be
> to try and incorporate this technology into our RV's? Pros / cons?
> Enquiring minds want to know...
>
> Glen Matejcek
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Wright Flyer down. |
--> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
What if the "Heroin" crashes the Wright Flyer (again) during the
reenactment..... will that have any historical (or hysterical)
significance at the 200 year anniversary ??? :-}
Chuck
P.S. Asbestos britches on... "Fire" away
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----- Original Message -----
From: Dana Overall <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
Subject: RV-List: Wright Flyer down.
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
>
> I just pulled this off the Bonanza list.
>
> See http://www.newsobserver.com/front/digest/story/3068683p-2795243c.html
.
>
>
> The Flyer replica planned for use in the 12/17 reenactment at Kill Devil
> Hills has crashed with no injuries, and word is theyll have it repaired
for
> the event.
>
>
> Remember, the original crashed on 12/14/1903it took two days to rebuild,
> but the Wrights promised their father (the Bishop) they would not fly on a
> Sunday, so they delayed the next attempt until Monday the 17th.
>
>
> Dana Overall
> Richmond, KY
> RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic"
> Finish kit
> Buying Instruments. Hangar flying my Dynon.
> http://rvflying.tripod.com
> do not archive
>
> Groove on the latest from the hot new rock groups! Get downloads, videos,
> and more here. http://special.msn.com/entertainment/wiredformusic.armx
>
>
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| Subject: | Thw Wright stuff |
--> RV-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
If the earliest history of Adam & Eve can be re-written as Adam & Steve why
not Wilma & Orville Wright. (note top billing has also changed). I recall
a story from the 60's where the "truth" was told, not the whole truth but
the "truth". There was a horse race with American & USSR entries. The
Russian press reported while the Russian ran a perfect second, the poor
American horse was next to last. They left off the part about only two
horses in the race. 8*) KABONG Do Not Archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Wright Flyer down.
> --> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
>
> What if the "Heroin" crashes the Wright Flyer (again) during the
> reenactment..... will that have any historical (or hysterical)
> significance at the 200 year anniversary ??? :-}
>
> Chuck
>
> P.S. Asbestos britches on... "Fire" away
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| Subject: | Re: Really long winded Icing dribble, was : When the vibration |
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--> RV-List message posted by: HCRV6@aol.com
In a message dated 11/30/03 7:10:38 AM Pacific Standard Time, wjoke@shaw.ca
writes:
<< send to the war a lot more Wildcats >>
Just nit pickin", but I'm pretty sure you meant to say Hellcats, the
Wildcats were pretty much phasing out service by the time the Corsairs
started showing up.
Harry Crosby
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| Subject: | Re: Thw Wright stuff |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Randy Compton" <thecomptons@bellsouth.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
<rocket-list@matronics.com>
Subject: RV-List: Thw Wright stuff
> --> RV-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
>
> If the earliest history of Adam & Eve can be re-written as Adam & Steve
why
> not Wilma & Orville Wright. (note top billing has also changed). I
recall
> a story from the 60's where the "truth" was told, not the whole truth but
> the "truth". There was a horse race with American & USSR entries. The
> Russian press reported while the Russian ran a perfect second, the poor
> American horse was next to last. They left off the part about only two
> horses in the race. 8*) KABONG Do Not Archive
>
The old communist gang back in the former Soviet Union has to be just green
with envy at how successful the PC (actually should be LC, since there's no
such thing as "Politically Correct" in a truly free society...but I digress)
crowd in the USA has been at rewriting history.
Those old commies were in the bush leagues of history revision when compared
to our lovable "left."
V/R,
Sluggo
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| Subject: | RE: When the vibration stops |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Fred Stucklen" <wstucklen1@cox.net>
Jim,
Glad to hear that you made it in in one piece. Not good to get into
icing conditions.
I too was enroute over Terre Haute on Saturday, but I elected to do it
at 11,000', well
above the icing conditions (below freezing, but above the clouds).. I
did make an
approach into Manchester Ohio just to stay away from the more severe
conditions,
and get gas. (I was on my way back from NM, going to Hartford CT...). I
did pick up
a bit of light rim ice, but not enough to cause any issues.
For those of you that want a better carb heat muff, I strongly suggest
NOT using the
same muff as the cabin heat. Instead, construct a muff around one of the
crossover
pipes directly above the carb air box. And to make more carb heat
available, make a
spring type device from .032 stainless safety wire, and wrap it around
the exhaust pipe
under the muff. (I do this inside my cabin heat muff too..) Robin
Williams sells the
stainless end caps (you only need one: the other end is open to let the
air in...).
I see a 20*C rise in carb inlet air temps by using such a device.....
Better yet, use a standard cabin heat muff on the opposite exhaust
pipe as the cabin heat,
with the air inlet open to the lower cowl. The increased area will help
a lot..
Even being careful flying IFR, you're bound to experience ice sometime
in your flying career,
so why not design your engine support systems so you don't have to worry
about the
windmill stopping. It's bad enough to not be able to see out the
windshield....
Fred Stucklen
RV-6A N926RV
107 hrs since the middle of August!
Listers,
Just got in from Fort Worth via an all night stay at Terre
Haute. I left
Mt. Vernon (MVN) on the way to Warsaw in 2000 ft. ceilings and
reported ice
from 4-6000 ft. I filed IFR at 3000 because that's as low as they
would give
me, and climbing on top would have put me in ice for longer than I
wanted to
be. Twelve miles north of Terre Haute my airspeed indicator went
to zero. I
told Terra Haute I wanted to spend the night with them. I received
radar
vectors to HUF started to 1500 ft , made the turn south and the
engine quit
when I reduced power. I had carb heat on and throttle full open, I
had to
jockey the mixture at the full lean position. I pulsed the engine
for eight
miles. These RVs take very little power to keep them afloat.
Finally the
engine would take a richer mixture and started running OK as I got
to the
airport. Made a good landing and approach thanked me for not
making them do
a lot of paperwork. My controller at Terre Haute talked to me
continually
and indicated places to sit down if I had too, he was a Godsend.
Chad Williams and the guys at the Flight Center put my RV4 in
a heated
hanger to let the ice melt off last night.
Last night it dawned on me that a lot of you listers probably
have the
same carb heat set-up that I do. You use a heat muff around the
pipes to get
cabin heat and carb heat. IF YOU GET CARB ICE, TURN THE CABIN HEAT
OFF WHILE
YOU'RE TRYING TO GET YOUR ENGINE TO RUN AGAIN. I didn't think of
this until
last night in the motel room. ALSO, WHEN THEY SAY ICE, THEY MEAN
ICE. I
didn't have pitot heat because I wasn't going to be foolish enough
to fly in
icing conditions, RIGHT!
Jim Nolan
N444JN
Older and Wiser
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| Subject: | Re: Long winded icing dribble |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Nolan" <jamespnolan@earthlink.net>
Doug,
Good post. I learned a lot this weekend about what not to do in bad
weather. And yes, I've ordered pitot heat, a Davtron M303 and for Christmas
I hope Santa brings me a Icom A5 with all the goodies.
I learned that light IFR when properly flown for a period of time will
eventually give you a sense of accomplishment leading to the inevitable hard
IFR that you never intended to fly in. I've been knocked around and enjoyed
being able to break out after two hours of never seeing the ground. I
thought I was good with my little rocket. But, being human, guess what
you'll eventually make, a mistake.
I've always realized that the pilots that get killed are not necessarily
bad pilots nor are they stupid pilots. They may have used bad judgment at
the wrong time. Thankfully my time hasn't came yet. When it does you can bet
it won't be icing.
Jim Nolan
N444JN
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| Subject: | Lasar or Lightspeed? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Bobby Hester <bhester@hopkinsville.net>
I plan on ordering a new 0-360 from Vans when the time comes. I am
trying to figure out which route to take. Should I order the engine with
the Lasar system install on the engine or should I order the Lightspeed
and why? I don't know squat about either :-( I hope to be using a
ACS2002 engine monitor and I'll be using a key start, if that makes any
differance.
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Surfing the Web from Hopkinsville, KY
Visit my web site at: http://www.geocities.com/hester-hoptown/RVSite/
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| Subject: | RV9A Empty Weights |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Roger Evenson" <revenson@comcast.net>
About a week ago, I asked for empty weights for RV9As. For your info, here are
the averages so far:
O-320, fixed pitch (9 responses): 1061 lbs.
O-320, constant speed (3 responses): 1090 lbs.
Eggenfellner Subaru, constant speed (6 responses): 1099 lbs.
I'd sure like to get a few more data points from those of you flying RV9A's with
O-320's and constant speed props. Anyone else? Thanks, Roger.
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| Subject: | Turn and Bank - RC Allen vs Electrical Gyro Corp? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com>
I need to buy a 3 1/8 inch electric turn and bank for the RV-8 I'm
building. Aircraft Spruce sells two, and I'm wondering whether there
is any reason to pick one over the other, other than the small price
difference.
Does any one have opinions on the performance and reliability of the
RC Allen 56-3B vs the Electric Gyro Corp 1234T100. I'll probably
call a gyro overhaul shop tomorrow to see if they will tell me
anything useful.
I'll fly some IFR, so I want a trust-worthy instrument. I'll also
fly a fair bit of aerobatics, so I want one that is robust and
overhaulable at a reasonable cost.
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Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit)
Ottawa, Canada
http://go.phpwebhosting.com/~khorton/rv8/
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--> RV-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com
I have added vortex generators on top of my RV-4 wings and it has very
noticably lowered my stall and improved low speed stability. I see no difference
in
top speed. I don't have expensive test equipment so these are general
observations.
I have to make my final approach between trees at about 40 feet above ground
in order to get onto the end of my runway (1100 foot grass strip). I wanted
the improvement at low speed for that reason. Take-off is shorter also.
Larry Vetterman has the VG's available.
Bob Olds A&P , EAA Tech. Counselor
RV-4 , N1191X , Flying Now
Charleston, Arkansas
"Real Aviators Fly Taildraggers"
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| Subject: | Re: Lasar or Lightspeed? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Denk" <akroguy@hotmail.com>
>Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:17:45 -0600
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: Bobby Hester <bhester@hopkinsville.net>
>
>I plan on ordering a new 0-360 from Vans when the time comes. I am
>trying to figure out which route to take. Should I order the engine with
>the Lasar system install on the engine or should I order the Lightspeed
>and why? I don't know squat about either :-( I hope to be using a
>ACS2002 engine monitor and I'll be using a key start, if that makes any
>differance.
>
You'll find plenty of references to various electronic ignitions in the
archives so you might want to try looking there first. For the record, I'm
very pleased with the Lightspeed system that I have on my O-360 and highly
recommend it. The Lasar is also excellent, and is FAA approved, if that
matters to you. Jeff Rose's ignition system is also very popular and is a
fine choice.
You may also find that the key switch only complicates matters for use with
the Lightspeed or Rose systems. Simple toggle switches are MUCH cheaper and
lighter. A key switch will never stop a hardcore airplane thief from taking
your airplane if he really wants it.
Have fun with your decision!
Brian Denk
RV8 N94BD 352 hrs.
RV10 51
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--> RV-List message posted by: BGCrook@aol.com
Well, I was dimpling the right elevator (RV-9) and my wife was helping me.
Somehow the male dimple didn't stay in the hole as I hit the c-frame with a
mallet. Her hand was blocking my view so I'm not sure what happened. I don't blame
her, I should have made sure the dimple dies were correctly positioned before
I drove the dimple.
It cut the edge of the stiffener hole out. I tried to re-dimple thinking I
could maybe save it. At first, I thought it might be OK, but when I looked at
the outside of the skin I saw a crack from the hole extending about a 1/64 of an
inch outside the dimple.
I'm thinking the skin is scrap, but I thought I would ask for opinons before
I throw it out and start over. It might be possible to wait until the crack
grows out (and it will) away from the hole and then stop drill it. It's too
close to the dimple to drill it now. Since it's on the bottom it wouldn't be
visible. However, I'm not sure this would even work.
Opinions, advise?
Thanks,
Bryon Crook
RV-9A EMP.
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| Subject: | Re: Really long winded Icing dribble |
--> RV-List message posted by: j1j2h3@juno.com
RV-List message posted by: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com>
(snip)
>The only way to fly IFR out here in the winter is to "manage ice" Ice
is
>like turbulence, there is almost always some, and it is usually not a
big
>deal.
Great post, Doug. This one definitely goes into the "Save" file. Even
though I have taken my instrument training up North (Western PA, where
our winter weather briefings resemble yours, except with more cloud
cover) and have about 70 hours of dual instrument time plus 2 regular
ground schools and 2 of the 3-day type, I have never before received such
good advice about ice management.
In case you're wondering why so much training, I'm not really that slow a
learner. I have taken and passed the instrument written with 97-99%
correct twice, but every time I got ready to take the practical test, I
was transferred to an overseas assignment,then had to start with a new
instructor when I got back. I still don't have the rating, and the next
time I go for it I will do one of the accelerated courses.
RV-List message posted by: Boyd Braem <bcbraem@comcast.net>
(snip)
>Tho, can any one say why they put that dip in the F-4U Corsair's wing?
It was to provide ground clearance for the prop without making the
landing gear ridiculously long. I believe the Corsair had the biggest
prop of any single-engine plane in WW2. A side benefit was that the
angle of the wing to the fuselage was nearly 90 degrees, giving a more
efficient transition without excessive fairings.
Jim Hasper - RV-7 just starting empennage (setting up shop in Franklin,
Tennessee)
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| Subject: | Re: Propeller performance testing |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tracy Crook" <lors01@msn.com>
What mixture did you run these tests at Jim? ROP? LOP? How many degrees?
Tracy Crook
>SNIP<
The data I collected was at 7,500 feet pressure altitude with the engine at
full throttle.
gph RPM TIAS (mph)
11.2 2700 201
10.5 2600 203
10.1 2500 203
8.8 2400 200
7.9 2300 199
Jim Ayers
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| Subject: | Handheld question |
--> RV-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
My old Sporty's 200 gave up the ghost when something melted inside. It was
used when I bought it 4 years ago and was well used and worked great 'til
the day it quit. I'm going to buy a replacement transceiver and am asking
for suggections. The Sporty's new & improved SP200A at $279.00 is larger
than most of the new models but has all of my requirements.
We used the old one for the radio communitions when flying the Champ for
tail wheel training while building the HRII. The old one could not be
plugged into an outside power source such as a cigarette lighter, the new
SP200A can. The Nav part is not important but nice to have as a backup. I've
read the reports but am looking for opinions and the listers all seem to
have at least one on every subject. Thanks in advance. Do Not Archive
KABONG
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| Subject: | RE: When the vibration stops & Carb Heat |
--> RV-List message posted by: "GMC" <gmcnutt@intergate.ca>
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Fred Stucklen
Subject: RV-List: RE: When the vibration stops
--> RV-List message posted by: "Fred Stucklen" <wstucklen1@cox.net>
For those of you that want a better carb heat muff, I strongly suggest
NOT using the same muff as the cabin heat. Instead, construct a muff around
one of the
crossover pipes directly above the carb air box. And to make more carb heat
available, make a spring type device from .032 stainless safety wire, and
wrap it around
the exhaust pipe under the muff.
I second Fred's comments and would even suggest that the carb heat muff wrap
around both
crossover pipes.
Fred could you elaborate a bit on your "spring type device from .032
stainless safety wire"
the safety wire I have is quite soft, and I can't picture it wrapped as a
spring.
Thanks
George McNutt
Langley, B.C.
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