RV-List Digest Archive

Fri 12/05/03


Total Messages Posted: 19



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 12:19 AM - Re: Cockpit "Audio out" to videocamera (Blanton Fortson)
     2. 12:58 AM - Re: AeroElectric-List: Cockpit "Audio out" to videocamera (HereBostonTim@aol.com)
     3. 01:05 AM - Re: "Audio out" to videocamera (photo of part) (Blanton Fortson)
     4. 03:13 AM - Re: Amazing story Re: DHL incident at Bagdad Int'l (NOT RV related) (Claude Heiniger)
     5. 04:28 AM - Re: Re: AeroElectric-List: Cockpit "Audio out" to videocamera (Joe Hine)
     6. 04:31 AM - Re: Re: AeroElectric-List: Cockpit "Audio out" to videocamera (Jerry Springer)
     7. 06:41 AM - Re: "Audio out" to videocamera (photo of part) (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta))
     8. 07:00 AM - Pop rivets (Wheeler North)
     9. 07:19 AM - Priming the rivet heads after driving? (Phil N)
    10. 07:47 AM - "pop" rivets (JOHN STARN)
    11. 08:43 AM - Re: Propeller Performance Testing (Ross Mickey)
    12. 09:45 AM - Re: Priming the rivet heads after driving? (Rick Galati)
    13. 09:57 AM - Re: AFS Waterbourne painting (Andy Karmy)
    14. 10:10 AM - Re: Propeller Performance Testing (Laird Owens)
    15. 10:59 AM - Pigtail for camcorder hookup.  (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta))
    16. 05:47 PM - Re: Propeller Performance Testing (Charlie & Tupper England)
    17. 06:44 PM - prop tests (PittsS1@aol.com)
    18. 07:06 PM - How many RV's to change a light bulb (Neil McLeod)
    19. 10:52 PM - Softcomm ATC 2p and SL-30 (Amit Dagan)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:19:52 AM PST US
    From: Blanton Fortson <blanton@alaska.net>
    Subject: Re: Cockpit "Audio out" to videocamera
    --> RV-List message posted by: Blanton Fortson <blanton@alaska.net> Northern Lights Avionics in Anchorage has a made-up pigtail for just this. One wire plugs into the camcorder audio-out port, the rest of it plugs in-line between your headset and intercom. I've had one for years and they work great. http://www.nlavionics.com/ b. On Dec 4, 2003, at 1:33 PM, David Carter wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "David Carter" <dcarter@datarecall.net> > > This is going to both the Aeroelectric and RV-lists, in hopes of > increasing > probability of someone being able to help with this issue. > > I want to put cockpit audio into my video camera when doing test > flying to > get pictures of instruments & audio comments I make - should greatly > reduce > "head down in cockpit" time taking notes and greatly increase amount of > instrument reading data collected. > > I went to Radio Shack and bought a Y adapter (p/n 274-892) with single > male > plug that goes into the "audio out" plug on instrument panel. The Y > adapter > has two female holes (jacks?) into which the headset audio plug goes > and > also a 6' long extension cord with 1/4 male plug that goes into other > hole > of Y adapter, with its other end (1/8 male) plugged into video > camera's > audio jack. > > When I replay cockpit recordings, the audio of the video camera is > distorted - amplitude too high coming out of intercom to be compatible > with > video recorder. > - Had same problem in F-100 30 years ago when trying to record > air-to-air combat audio. Now I remember why my Avionics guys put a > small > (1" or less) centertap "audio transformer" into a little box (adapter) > that > cut the signal amplitude in half - worked fine. > > Options: > 1. I can do the 1973 version: Buy a small centertapped "audio output > transformer" (RS p/n 273-1380: 1000 ohms and 8 ohms with center tap > on the > 1000 ohm side?), then cut my 6' RS extension cord somewhere > convenient, > strip the cut ends and solder end(s) coming from aircraft audio jack > to the > end of the ??? > -- I can't even visualize what I have to connect. Looks > like the > raw (too big) audio signal would have to go into one end of the > winding that > is NOT center-tapped and then have the other end of that winding go > ____???. > Then solder the other end of cord (that goes into the video camera) to > center tap (which should have 1/2 audo amplitude of that coming into > this > transformer-adapter). > > 2. While shopping at Radio Shack today, I saw a TV thing: "300 ohm > to 75 > ohm matching adapter". I'm assuming it has a transformer inside the > neat > fat cable housing. Problem: It has two U connectors on one end that > obviously go onto two screws for antenna input; other end looks like a > center conductor TV cable end. That is a 4 to 1 change of ohms (300 > to 75 > or vice versa) - is it done with a transformer? If so, I could have a > neater adapter by modifying that gadget to have a 1/4" male plug on > one end > and a 1/4" female jack on other: I'd then plug it into the Y adapter, > then > plug the 6' extension cord (unmodified in this option) into it and run > the > extension cord to the video camera. > - It is a $5 part and I'd need add the 1/4" plug on one end and a > 1/4 > inch jack on the other end. > - Looks hard to do. > > If I can have some help figuring how to wire the audio transformer, > then > just cutting into the extension cord (it must have two conductors in > it) I'd > probably run conductor #1 into side of transformer without center-tap > and > connect other cut end of conductor #1 to other end of that > transformer. I'd > probably connect one end of conductor #2 to 1 end of the center-tapped > side > and the other end of conductor #2 to the center tap. > - After all that, I could just wrap the transformer wires in the > cut > area with electrical tape - or pot with RTV or Shoe Goo, etc. > - Which conductor in the above narrative/guess would be conductor > #1? > The one that connects to the tip or body of the plug? These are molded > cable ends so I can't unscrew to see wire attachments/colors to the > plugs. > > Appreciate any tips. > > David Carter > > > _- > ======================================================================= > _-> _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > > > >


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    Time: 12:58:41 AM PST US
    From: HereBostonTim@aol.com
    Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Cockpit "Audio out" to videocamera
    --> RV-List message posted by: HereBostonTim@aol.com FUCK OFF AND DIE... ONE MORE E-MAIL TO ME AND YOU WILL BE ARRESTED.


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    Time: 01:05:15 AM PST US
    From: Blanton Fortson <blanton@alaska.net>
    Subject: Re: "Audio out" to videocamera (photo of part)
    --> RV-List message posted by: Blanton Fortson <blanton@alaska.net> NLA audio pigtail for camcorder: I posted a photo at http://homepage.mac.com/blanton/PhotoAlbum22.html -click on photo for larger image. -B. (cockpit conversation, narration, music through intercom, ATC & traffic, etc. ... pretty cool, ... and simple) On Dec 4, 2003, at 11:19 PM, Blanton Fortson wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: Blanton Fortson <blanton@alaska.net> > > Northern Lights Avionics in Anchorage has a made-up pigtail for just > this. One wire plugs into the camcorder audio-out port, the rest of it > plugs in-line between your headset and intercom. I've had one for years > and they work great. > > http://www.nlavionics.com/ (Anchorage) > > -Blanton > http://homepage.mac.com/blanton > > On Dec 4, 2003, at 1:33 PM, David Carter wrote: > >> --> RV-List message posted by: "David Carter" <dcarter@datarecall.net> >> >> This is going to both the Aeroelectric and RV-lists, in hopes of >> increasing >> probability of someone being able to help with this issue. >> >> I want to put cockpit audio into my video camera when doing test >> flying to >> get pictures of instruments & audio comments I make - should greatly >> reduce >> "head down in cockpit" time taking notes and greatly increase amount >> of >> instrument reading data collected. >> >> I went to Radio Shack and bought a Y adapter (p/n 274-892) with single >> male >> plug that goes into the "audio out" plug on instrument panel. The Y >> adapter >> has two female holes (jacks?) into which the headset audio plug goes >> and >> also a 6' long extension cord with 1/4 male plug that goes into other >> hole >> of Y adapter, with its other end (1/8 male) plugged into video >> camera's >> audio jack. >> >> When I replay cockpit recordings, the audio of the video camera is >> distorted - amplitude too high coming out of intercom to be compatible >> with >> video recorder. >> - Had same problem in F-100 30 years ago when trying to record >> air-to-air combat audio. Now I remember why my Avionics guys put a >> small >> (1" or less) centertap "audio transformer" into a little box (adapter) >> that >> cut the signal amplitude in half - worked fine. >> >> Options: >> 1. I can do the 1973 version: Buy a small centertapped "audio output >> transformer" (RS p/n 273-1380: 1000 ohms and 8 ohms with center tap >> on the >> 1000 ohm side?), then cut my 6' RS extension cord somewhere >> convenient, >> strip the cut ends and solder end(s) coming from aircraft audio jack >> to the >> end of the ??? >> -- I can't even visualize what I have to connect. Looks >> like the >> raw (too big) audio signal would have to go into one end of the >> winding that >> is NOT center-tapped and then have the other end of that winding go >> ____???. >> Then solder the other end of cord (that goes into the video camera) to >> center tap (which should have 1/2 audo amplitude of that coming into >> this >> transformer-adapter). >> >> 2. While shopping at Radio Shack today, I saw a TV thing: "300 ohm >> to 75 >> ohm matching adapter". I'm assuming it has a transformer inside the >> neat >> fat cable housing. Problem: It has two U connectors on one end that >> obviously go onto two screws for antenna input; other end looks like a >> center conductor TV cable end. That is a 4 to 1 change of ohms (300 >> to 75 >> or vice versa) - is it done with a transformer? If so, I could have a >> neater adapter by modifying that gadget to have a 1/4" male plug on >> one end >> and a 1/4" female jack on other: I'd then plug it into the Y adapter, >> then >> plug the 6' extension cord (unmodified in this option) into it and run >> the >> extension cord to the video camera. >> - It is a $5 part and I'd need add the 1/4" plug on one end and a >> 1/4 >> inch jack on the other end. >> - Looks hard to do. >> >> If I can have some help figuring how to wire the audio transformer, >> then >> just cutting into the extension cord (it must have two conductors in >> it) I'd >> probably run conductor #1 into side of transformer without center-tap >> and >> connect other cut end of conductor #1 to other end of that >> transformer. I'd >> probably connect one end of conductor #2 to 1 end of the center-tapped >> side >> and the other end of conductor #2 to the center tap. >> - After all that, I could just wrap the transformer wires in the >> cut >> area with electrical tape - or pot with RTV or Shoe Goo, etc. >> - Which conductor in the above narrative/guess would be conductor >> #1? >> The one that connects to the tip or body of the plug? These are >> molded >> cable ends so I can't unscrew to see wire attachments/colors to the >> plugs. >> >> Appreciate any tips. >> >> David Carter >> >> >> _- >> ====================================================================== >> >> _-> _- >> ====================================================================== >> >> _- >> ====================================================================== >> >> _- >> ====================================================================== >> >> _- >> ====================================================================== >> >>> >> >> > > > _- > ======================================================================= > _-> _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > > > >


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    Time: 03:13:52 AM PST US
    From: "Claude Heiniger" <cheiniger@dplanet.ch>
    Subject: Re: Amazing story re: DHL incident at Bagdad Int'l (NOT RV related)
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Claude Heiniger" <cheiniger@dplanet.ch> Sir, I would really like those pictures as I teach alongside a DHL captain who refused to fly in Bagdad due to the high risk factors. Thanks a lot, Claude Heiniger heiniger@air-espace.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gert" <gert@execpc.com> Subject: Re: RV-List: Amazing story re: DHL incident at Bagdad Int'l (NOT RV related) > --> RV-List message posted by: Gert <gert@execpc.com> > > Harry > > I'd be intersted in seeing the pictures. > > Thanks > > Gert > > HCRV6@aol.com wrote: > > > --> RV-List message posted by: HCRV6@aol.com > > > > I have a bunch of photos also that I could forward individually if someone is > > interested. They were attached to the original but as you know Matt's > > system strips attachments for our protection. > > > > Again DO NOT ARCHIVE. > > > > Harry Crosby > > Pleasanton, California > > RV-6, firewall forward > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500 > >


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    Time: 04:28:57 AM PST US
    From: "Joe Hine" <joehine@rogers.com>
    Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Cockpit "Audio out" to videocamera
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Joe Hine" <joehine@rogers.com> Here it is Timmy ....come and get me!!!! Or us, or whatever..... Do not Archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of HereBostonTim@aol.com Subject: RV-List: Re: AeroElectric-List: Cockpit "Audio out" to videocamera --> RV-List message posted by: HereBostonTim@aol.com FUCK OFF AND DIE... ONE MORE E-MAIL TO ME AND YOU WILL BE ARRESTED.


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    Time: 04:31:14 AM PST US
    From: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Cockpit "Audio out" to videocamera
    --> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net> my my I think we all should send this this person a nice friendly e-mail. LOL do not archive HereBostonTim@aol.com wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: HereBostonTim@aol.com > >****** AND DIE... >ONE MORE E-MAIL TO ME AND YOU WILL BE ARRESTED. > > > >


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    Time: 06:41:27 AM PST US
    Subject: "Audio out" to videocamera (photo of part)
    From: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net> This appears to just be a splitter. Mike Do not archive. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Blanton Fortson Subject: Re: RV-List: "Audio out" to videocamera (photo of part) --> RV-List message posted by: Blanton Fortson <blanton@alaska.net> NLA audio pigtail for camcorder: I posted a photo at http://homepage.mac.com/blanton/PhotoAlbum22.html -click on photo for larger image. -B. (cockpit conversation, narration, music through intercom, ATC & traffic, etc. ... pretty cool, ... and simple) On Dec 4, 2003, at 11:19 PM, Blanton Fortson wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: Blanton Fortson <blanton@alaska.net> > > Northern Lights Avionics in Anchorage has a made-up pigtail for just > this. One wire plugs into the camcorder audio-out port, the rest of it > plugs in-line between your headset and intercom. I've had one for years > and they work great. > > http://www.nlavionics.com/ (Anchorage) > > -Blanton > http://homepage.mac.com/blanton > > On Dec 4, 2003, at 1:33 PM, David Carter wrote: > >> --> RV-List message posted by: "David Carter" <dcarter@datarecall.net> >> >> This is going to both the Aeroelectric and RV-lists, in hopes of >> increasing >> probability of someone being able to help with this issue. >> >> I want to put cockpit audio into my video camera when doing test >> flying to >> get pictures of instruments & audio comments I make - should greatly >> reduce >> "head down in cockpit" time taking notes and greatly increase amount >> of >> instrument reading data collected. >> >> I went to Radio Shack and bought a Y adapter (p/n 274-892) with single >> male >> plug that goes into the "audio out" plug on instrument panel. The Y >> adapter >> has two female holes (jacks?) into which the headset audio plug goes >> and >> also a 6' long extension cord with 1/4 male plug that goes into other >> hole >> of Y adapter, with its other end (1/8 male) plugged into video >> camera's >> audio jack. >> >> When I replay cockpit recordings, the audio of the video camera is >> distorted - amplitude too high coming out of intercom to be compatible >> with >> video recorder. >> - Had same problem in F-100 30 years ago when trying to record >> air-to-air combat audio. Now I remember why my Avionics guys put a >> small >> (1" or less) centertap "audio transformer" into a little box (adapter) >> that >> cut the signal amplitude in half - worked fine. >> >> Options: >> 1. I can do the 1973 version: Buy a small centertapped "audio output >> transformer" (RS p/n 273-1380: 1000 ohms and 8 ohms with center tap >> on the >> 1000 ohm side?), then cut my 6' RS extension cord somewhere >> convenient, >> strip the cut ends and solder end(s) coming from aircraft audio jack >> to the >> end of the ??? >> -- I can't even visualize what I have to connect. Looks >> like the >> raw (too big) audio signal would have to go into one end of the >> winding that >> is NOT center-tapped and then have the other end of that winding go >> ____???. >> Then solder the other end of cord (that goes into the video camera) to >> center tap (which should have 1/2 audo amplitude of that coming into >> this >> transformer-adapter). >> >> 2. While shopping at Radio Shack today, I saw a TV thing: "300 ohm >> to 75 >> ohm matching adapter". I'm assuming it has a transformer inside the >> neat >> fat cable housing. Problem: It has two U connectors on one end that >> obviously go onto two screws for antenna input; other end looks like a >> center conductor TV cable end. That is a 4 to 1 change of ohms (300 >> to 75 >> or vice versa) - is it done with a transformer? If so, I could have a >> neater adapter by modifying that gadget to have a 1/4" male plug on >> one end >> and a 1/4" female jack on other: I'd then plug it into the Y adapter, >> then >> plug the 6' extension cord (unmodified in this option) into it and run >> the >> extension cord to the video camera. >> - It is a $5 part and I'd need add the 1/4" plug on one end and a >> 1/4 >> inch jack on the other end. >> - Looks hard to do. >> >> If I can have some help figuring how to wire the audio transformer, >> then >> just cutting into the extension cord (it must have two conductors in >> it) I'd >> probably run conductor #1 into side of transformer without center-tap >> and >> connect other cut end of conductor #1 to other end of that >> transformer. I'd >> probably connect one end of conductor #2 to 1 end of the center-tapped >> side >> and the other end of conductor #2 to the center tap. >> - After all that, I could just wrap the transformer wires in the >> cut >> area with electrical tape - or pot with RTV or Shoe Goo, etc. >> - Which conductor in the above narrative/guess would be conductor >> #1? >> The one that connects to the tip or body of the plug? These are >> molded >> cable ends so I can't unscrew to see wire attachments/colors to the >> plugs. >> >> Appreciate any tips. >> >> David Carter >> >> >> _- >> ====================================================================== >> >> _-> _- >> ====================================================================== >> >> _- >> ====================================================================== >> >> _- >> ====================================================================== >> >> _- >> ====================================================================== >> >>> >> >> > > > _- > ======================================================================= > _-> _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > > > > = == == == ==


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    Time: 07:00:10 AM PST US
    From: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us>
    Subject: Pop rivets
    --> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us> Not that it means much but I remember that at least the 4's were allowed to use structural pop rivets extensively by Vans. I have seen several of them with the entire bottom wing skins done this way. They aren't that pretty, but then who spends much time under the plane? do not archive


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    Time: 07:19:14 AM PST US
    From: "Phil N" <pnewlon@toosan.com>
    Subject: Priming the rivet heads after driving?
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Phil N" <pnewlon@toosan.com> Is it a good idea to prime the rivet heads after driving? I haven't seen anyone mention this, though I think it wouldn't be a "bad" thing to do. I'm specifically talking about places like the HS skeleton before skinning - places you won't ever see again after the skin is installed. Phil


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    Time: 07:47:54 AM PST US
    From: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
    "rocket-list" <rocket-list@matronics.com>
    Subject: "pop" rivets
    --> RV-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net> Every builder at every airport/airshow/ramp where your bird is parked. On RV's, most look at the tail first so they can judge your skill level when you started building and then look at the parts that most (non-builders) people don't know exist. Big (building) Brother is watching. Do Not Archive 8*) KABONG HRII, working on 2nd "conditional" and adding rear seat controls. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wheeler North" <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us> Subject: RV-List: Pop rivets 4's were allowed to > use structural pop rivets extensively by Vans. I have seen several of them > with the entire bottom wing skins done this way. > > They aren't that pretty, but then who spends much time under the plane?


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    Time: 08:43:09 AM PST US
    From: "Ross Mickey" <rmickey@ix.netcom.com>
    Subject: Re: Propeller Performance Testing
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Ross Mickey" <rmickey@ix.netcom.com> Laird, Did you leave the throttle at full power for all these runs or are they "squared?" ie 2600 rpm-26" mp, 2500 rpm-25" mp... Ross Mickey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laird Owens" <owens@aerovironment.com> > Of course the one thing I forgot to record was GPH for the different > RPM settings. Oh well. > > FInal results at 8000 DA: > 2680 = 178kts > 2600 = 178kts > 2500 = 176kts > 2400 = 174kts > > So....I didn't see the TAS rise that Jim did during his tests with the RV-6a. > > At least that's what I found tonight. > > Laird


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    Time: 09:45:50 AM PST US
    From: Rick Galati <rick6a@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Priming the rivet heads after driving?
    --> RV-List message posted by: Rick Galati <rick6a@yahoo.com> Phil, It is not necessary to prime rivet heads after driving but for me old hourly production work habits die hard. Like routine construction practices required on some of the taxpayers combat aircraft, I prime both the manufactured head AND the shop head. In my case, after mixing and spraying epoxy primer there is always a small amount of primer left in the paint gun (can) and it is simple enough matter using a disposable art brush to make good use of the left over primer to touch up bare rivets as I find them. Necessary? Of course not. But it can't hurt a thing. Rick Galati RV-6A "finishing" Subject: Priming the rivet heads after driving?From: Phil N (pnewlon@toosan.com)Date: Fri Dec 05 - 7:19 AM --> RV-List message posted by: "Phil N" <pnewlon@toosan.com>Is it a good idea to prime the rivet heads after driving? I haven't seen anyone mention this, though I think it wouldn't be a "bad" thing todo. I'm specifically talking about places like the HS skeleton before skinning - places you won't ever see again after the skin is installed.Phil --------------------------------- Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now


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    Time: 09:57:26 AM PST US
    From: Andy Karmy <andy@karmy.com>
    Subject: Re: AFS Waterbourne painting
    --> RV-List message posted by: Andy Karmy <andy@karmy.com> Ok, I talked with Paul (owner of AFS) about this and have heard him speak on it at one of the Arlington airshow forums about painting with AFS. The polyisocyanate that is in the paint is the bad stuff like you say. The bad thing about ISO's in polyurethane is that they want to bind to water molecules. Using a normal solvent based system the only water is YOU so it wicks into your pores and tear ducts looking for water to bind to. With the AFS system the thinner is water... So as soon as you mix the paint it has all the water it needs and then some so it is then no longer a threat to you and thus the reason you don't need forced air respiration. - Andy Karmy (not a chemist, just listening to the smart guys that are) Time: 07:10:37 AM PST US From: P M Condon <pcondon@mitre.org> Subject: RV-List: Re: AFS Waterbourne painting=A0=A0=A0 --> RV-List message posted by: P M Condon <pcondon@mitre.org> In reply to your recent post on AFS:=A0=A0AFS provides more then one waterborne paint system. My comments were on the two part polyurathane waterborne offering from AFS. Here is a clip from their web site: PRODUCT DESCRIPTION ".....Aircraft Finishing Systems Waterborne TWO-PART POLYURETHANE TOPCOAT is a solvent free, water dispersible polyisocyanate. It provides outstanding coverage, excellent durability, and ease of application as well as being a low VOC and EPA compliant coating. Aircraft Finishing Systems Waterborne Two-Part Polyurethane Topcoat offers superior adhesion and has film properties that exceed most solvent based catalyzed polyurethane systems......" Notice the mention of ISO's in the description. Also, nowhere in the AFS website is there mention of safety or breathing concerns. I think it only prudent to error on the save side when using this(or any) Polyurathane paint by using the proper breathing equipment.


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    Time: 10:10:18 AM PST US
    From: Laird Owens <owens@aerovironment.com>
    Subject: Re: Propeller Performance Testing
    --> RV-List message posted by: Laird Owens <owens@aerovironment.com> All test conditions were at full throttle. Only the RPM was reduced. Manifold pressure was consistent at 23.5 inches for all test points. Laird >--> RV-List message posted by: "Ross Mickey" <rmickey@ix.netcom.com> > >Laird, > >Did you leave the throttle at full power for all these runs or are they >"squared?" ie 2600 rpm-26" mp, 2500 rpm-25" mp... > >Ross Mickey > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Laird Owens" <owens@aerovironment.com> >> Of course the one thing I forgot to record was GPH for the different >> RPM settings. Oh well. >> >> FInal results at 8000 DA: >> 2680 = 178kts >> 2600 = 178kts >> 2500 = 176kts >> 2400 = 174kts >> >> So....I didn't see the TAS rise that Jim did during his tests with the >RV-6a. >> >> At least that's what I found tonight. >> >> Laird > >


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    Time: 10:59:30 AM PST US
    Subject: Pigtail for camcorder hookup.
    From: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net> From The owner himself. It's a splitter only. Do not archive. -----Original Message----- From: Gary R. Bennett [mailto:gary@NLAvionics.com] Subject: Re: pigtail for camcorder hookup Mike, this is a simple splitter that connects in-line with your headphones (stereo compatible) and parallels to the mike input of your camera recorder. Basically the camera records exactly what you hear. gary From: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net> Subject: RE: pigtail for camcorder hookup Is this a splitter or does it have built in noise attenuation? =09 Mike =09 =09 =09 =09 =09 -----Original Message----- From: Gary R. Bennett [mailto:gary@NLAvionics.com] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 12:15 PM To: Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta) Subject: pigtail for camcorder hookup =09 =09 =09 Hi Michael, the adapters are in stock, $42 ea. gary ---------- From: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 09:37:43 -0500 To: sales@nlavionics.com Subject: pigtail for camcorder hookup =09 I understand you make a pigtail to hook a camcorder audio up with an intercom. This was taken from a discussion group. Northern Lights Avionics in Anchorage has a made-up pigtail for just =09 this. One wire plugs into the camcorder audio-out port, the rest of it =09 plugs in-line between your headset and intercom. I've had one for years =09 and they work great. =09 =09 =09 http://www.nlavionics.com/ =09 =09 =09 b. =09 =09 =09 =09 =09 =09 =09 So hhow much is this gismo? =09 =09 =09 =09 =09 Michael Stewart =09 Quality Assurance =09 404.236.3363 =09 GO ISS! =09 =09 =09 "First Who, Then What." Jim Collins author of the book, "Good to Great" =09 =09 =09 =09


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    Time: 05:47:52 PM PST US
    From: Charlie & Tupper England <cengland@netdoor.com>
    Subject: Re: Propeller Performance Testing
    --> RV-List message posted by: Charlie & Tupper England <cengland@netdoor.com> Laird, Thanks for the additional data points on prop testing. In my mind, the significance isn't the speed change, which was only 2%, but the fuel flow increase for effectively the same speed. 40% change in fuel flow is a pretty big deal even if there had been an increase in speed of 2%. If you have fuel flow measurement in your plane, would you do all of us the favor of measuring your fuel flow at the same MP & the 3 rpms? You shouldn't have to refly the speed test; just a flow number at that density altitude & each rpm. Logically, the flow will be lower at lower rpm but I'd really like to know if you see the same 40% increase from 2400 to 2700 rpm. Thanks, Charlie Laird Owens wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: Laird Owens <owens@aerovironment.com> > >All test conditions were at full throttle. Only the RPM was reduced. >Manifold pressure was consistent at 23.5 inches for all test points. > >Laird > > > >>--> RV-List message posted by: "Ross Mickey" <rmickey@ix.netcom.com> >> >>Laird, >> >>Did you leave the throttle at full power for all these runs or are they >>"squared?" ie 2600 rpm-26" mp, 2500 rpm-25" mp... >> >>Ross Mickey >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Laird Owens" <owens@aerovironment.com> >> >> >>> Of course the one thing I forgot to record was GPH for the different >>> RPM settings. Oh well. >>> >>> FInal results at 8000 DA: >>> 2680 = 178kts >>> 2600 = 178kts >>> 2500 = 176kts >>> 2400 = 174kts >>> >>> So....I didn't see the TAS rise that Jim did during his tests with the >>> >>> >>RV-6a. >> >> >>> At least that's what I found tonight. >>> >>> Laird >>>


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    Time: 06:44:33 PM PST US
    From: PittsS1@aol.com
    Subject: prop tests
    --> RV-List message posted by: PittsS1@aol.com not hanger talk...but a fact.... i hear comments / questions about fuel flo...props....and such the biggest change in fuel flow i've seen has resulted from electronic ignition, one to two gph...a fact...not hanger talk mike


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    Time: 07:06:00 PM PST US
    From: Neil McLeod <neilmcleod@direcway.com>
    Subject: How many RV's to change a light bulb
    --> RV-List message posted by: Neil McLeod <neilmcleod@direcway.com> Actually found on the Acro list (1) Changes the light bulb and posts that it has been replaced. (12) Share their experiences in light bulb changing and methods of replacing bulbs. (7) warn that changing the light bulb is dangerous. (27) complain about the spelling and grammar of the first 20. (53) argue with the wise guys saying that "spling doznt mattah". (156) members IM the admins and mods that discussing changing light bulbs is off topic in this forum. (41) correct the grammar in the posts of the 80 that argue. (109) request the thread to be moved to the "light bulb forum". (203) request that the spelling/grammar argument should be moved to the "grammar lounge" and the "spelling test forum". (111) say that we all use light bulbs and that discussing changing them in a public forum may offend some. (306) argue about the best place to buy bulbs, the best way to change them, and which brand of bulbs are best. (27) link to sites where you can see various bulbs. (14) say that links don't work and that "here's the right link". (3) say that these sites are inaccessible through their firewall or that those who visit them will get fired. (33) sort the previous posts and compile one big text and add their own opinion at the end. (12) claim that they are leaving the forum forever because they can't stand the thread. (4) suggest to start a FAQ on light bulbs and their changing. (25) request a new forum called "light bulb forum". (47) claim that physics.cold.fusion was meant just for this. (56) argue about turbocharged vs NA bulbs. (400) post complete and utter nonsense. (85) complain that the 15k sized picture of the light bulb is too large for their modems. And then, the guy that posts to complain because the original poster didn't do a search for "light bulbs" before posting his experience!


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    Time: 10:52:57 PM PST US
    From: "Amit Dagan" <amitdagan@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Softcomm ATC 2p and SL-30
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Amit Dagan" <amitdagan@hotmail.com> Has anyone had any experience with the combination of the Softcomm ATC-2P and the SL-30? I would like to see a wiring diagram. Specificaly, did you connect the mic 2 (pin #15 on the Sl30 connector) to anything? Has anyone had any good/bad experience just using the internal intercom within the SL30? Thanks, Amit.




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