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1. 04:23 AM - Re: panel lay out with Dynon (PSILeD@aol.com)
2. 05:31 AM - Re: Gas scooter fits in baggage compartment (Larygagnon@aol.com)
3. 05:34 AM - Re: Redimple the skin? (a flyer)
4. 05:43 AM - Re: panel lay out with Dynon (Dan Checkoway)
5. 06:22 AM - Re: Redimple the skin? (glenn.williams@businessacft.bombardier.com)
6. 06:48 AM - KitLog Down? (David E. Nelson)
7. 07:20 AM - Re: panel lay out with Dynon (PSILeD@aol.com)
8. 07:33 AM - Re: Gas scooter fits in baggage compartment (Greg Milner)
9. 08:31 AM - Redimple The Skin? (John)
10. 08:45 AM - Re: Propeller Performance Testing (Laird Owens)
11. 08:47 AM - Re: panel lay out with Dynon (lucky macy)
12. 09:02 AM - Re: Redimple The Skin? (Jim Jewell)
13. 10:39 AM - Anyone in the Chicago area? (Bill VonDane)
14. 11:47 AM - Re: Anyone in the Chicago area? (Don Mack)
15. 12:04 PM - Help - Jon Johanson and his RV4 trapped on American Antarctic base ()
16. 12:37 PM - Re: Help - Jon Johanson and his RV4 trapped on American Antarctic base (C. Rabaut)
17. 12:55 PM - Re: Help - Jon Johanson and his RV4 trapped on American (Jamie D. Painter)
18. 01:10 PM - Re: Help - Jon Johanson and his RV4 trapped on American (Steven Eberhart)
19. 02:15 PM - Jon Johanson and his RV4 trapped on American Antarctic base (Aircraft Technical Book Company)
20. 02:33 PM - Re: panel lay out with Dynon (Dana Overall)
21. 02:38 PM - Re: Help - Jon Johanson and his RV4 trapped on (Kevin Horton)
22. 02:48 PM - Re: Help - Jon Johanson and his RV4 trapped on American Antarctic base (Eustace Bowhay)
23. 02:49 PM - Help - Jon Johanson (long) (Andrew Barker)
24. 03:20 PM - Re: RV6-A Constant Speed Upgrade (czechsix@juno.com)
25. 03:21 PM - Re: Jon Johanson and his RV4 trapped on American Antarctic base (Eustace Bowhay)
26. 03:50 PM - EAA link to Jon Johanson and his RV4 (RV6 Flyer)
27. 04:00 PM - Re: Redimple The Skin? (Bob Hassel)
28. 06:00 PM - John Johanson - another new article ()
29. 06:44 PM - Re: Help - Jon Johanson (kempthornes)
30. 07:39 PM - Re: John Johanson - another new article (Larry Pardue)
31. 08:45 PM - Re: Cockpit "Audio out" to videocamera (David Carter)
32. 08:45 PM - Jon Johanson (Long) (Eustace Bowhay)
33. 08:48 PM - Shoulder Harness and Baggage (Jerry Huether)
34. 08:57 PM - Does any KSTL area builder need help or want to show off RV project? (Jerry Huether)
35. 09:04 PM - Fuel flow pulsation damper (Wheeler North)
36. 09:38 PM - Re: John Johanson - another new article (Eustace Bowhay)
37. 10:14 PM - Re: John Johanson - another new article ()
38. 11:05 PM - Re: Help - Jon Johanson and his RV4 trapped on American Antarctic base (John Brick)
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| Subject: | Re: panel lay out with Dynon |
--> RV-List message posted by: PSILeD@aol.com
In a message dated 12/8/2003 9:06:25 PM Eastern Standard Time,
dan@rvproject.com writes:
http://rvproject.com/images/panel/panel_640x210.jpg
All that lovely space,
Paul
RV-8 guy
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| Subject: | Re: Gas scooter fits in baggage compartment |
--> RV-List message posted by: Larygagnon@aol.com
Try GETaPED.com They list electric and gas scooters. Most are 20 to 25
pounds and up.
Larry Gagnon
RV6 N6LG
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| Subject: | Re: Redimple the skin? |
--> RV-List message posted by: a flyer <aflyer@direcway.com>
I am thinking Jim is on to the truth of it here. I have often been
complemented on my flat tail surfaces, but I had no clue as to why mine
might be flatter than others. Now, though, I think it has to do with the
fact that my C-frame was bolted to my welding table (3/4" steel sheet, very
sturdy frame). I made each dimple with one strike of a small plastic
dead-blow hammer.
John Huft RV8
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Oke" <wjoke@shaw.ca>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Redimple the skin?
> --> RV-List message posted by: Jim Oke <wjoke@shaw.ca>
>
> The surface that the C-frame is placed on is also important. To obtain the
> desired result in some cases, the C-frame must be placed on a solid,
> non-resilient surface - eg., a concrete garage floor or similar. If the
> C-frame is just sitting on a flimsy table, pounding away with a heavy
hammer
> will just flex the table top vice forming the dimple or setting the rivet.
>
> Of course, this depends on the amount of effort require do form the dimple
> or set the rivet. I did the 470-6-XX rivets on my wing spars with a
C-frame
> riveter which took a bit of muscle. The elevator and rudder skins took a
> lot less.
>
> Jim Oke
> RV-6A
> Wpg, MB
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <HCRV6@aol.com>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Redimple the skin?
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: HCRV6@aol.com
> >
> > In a message dated 12/8/03 11:16:49 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> > pnewlon@toosan.com writes:
> >
> > << 4LB bronze hammer came up a little short of full depth (as compared
to
> > the dimples along the edges made using the squeezer). >>
> >
> > I dimpled my entire project with the Avery "C" Frame tool and a 1/2
pound
> > plastic mallet ( one whack per rivet hole, except on 0.40 which required
> two
> > whacks per hole) and the dimples worked great.. Maybe there is a law of
> > dimenishing return when you go up to a 4 lb sledge hammer.
> >
> > Do not archive
> >
> > Harry Crosby
> > Pleasanton, California
> > RV-6, firewall forward
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: panel lay out with Dynon |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
> In a message dated 12/8/2003 9:06:25 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> http://rvproject.com/images/panel/panel_640x210.jpg
> All that lovely space,
> Paul
I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic, but that's what I love about the
ACS2002 (http://www.advanced-control-systems.com). It really does free up a
ton of space. That and it's the most readable display out there, it has
aural voice warnings, it's easily customized, etc. I think there's a good
reason Van chose it for the RV-10.
And if I was a little more cavalier, I could have done what Dana & Stein
have done, which is get rid of the other steam gauges as well (and just use
the Dynon). But I'm gonna feel a lot better having those when I'm in the
soup.
Just say no to panel clutter!
do not archive
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
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| Subject: | Re: Redimple the skin? |
12/09/2003 07:45:05 AM
--> RV-List message posted by: glenn.williams@businessacft.bombardier.com
Guys on the dimple issue instead of using a bronze or plastic hammer. We at
George Orndorff's hangar use a wood mallet. I believe you can purchase
these from Van's accessory catalogue or from George himself or averys tool
supply at Hicks airfield. The procedure we use, is to use the avery C frame
and hit the rod on top with the wood mallet usually two times untill you
hear the dimple set go from a hollow sound to a solid sound. After the
skins are dimpled and rehung by clecos, just prior to shooting the
countersunk rivet we use the deburr tool to get the hole conformal all the
way around so the rivet head does not protrude. I use light pressure and
usually two to three turns is fine. You will not be removing strength from
the skin because the material you are removing is miniscule at best. All
the deburr tool does is to get any residue out of the dimpled hole and
allows the rivet to sit flush for a proper rivet set. I as an A&P also do
this process on corporate and military aircraft. also as a side benefit
when the aircraft is ready for paint there is less prep work required to
get the skins smooth. bear in mind that if you have a rivet head protruding
and you sand the protrusion away prior to paint that is when you lose the
strength of that rivet, not because of the deburr prior to shooting the
rivet.
Glenn Williams
do not archive
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--> RV-List message posted by: "David E. Nelson" <david.nelson@pobox.com>
Hi All,
I've tried e-mailing KitLog (info@kitlog.com and support@kitlog.com) and both
addresses have bounced with:
<<< 551 5.0.0 SMTP ACCESS DENIED
550 <support@kitlog.com>... User unknown
The web site is still up, though. Anybody know other e-mail addresses?
Thanks,
/\/elson
--
~~ ** ~~ If you didn't learn anything when you broke it the 1st ~~ ** ~~
time, then break it again.
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| Subject: | Re: panel lay out with Dynon |
--> RV-List message posted by: PSILeD@aol.com
Dan,
No, I wasn't being sarcastic, I was comparing the space available on the
RV-8 panel to the RV-7 panel. And thinking how nice all that wide panel space is.
I also have the Dynon unit and have placed in top center of my panel with
backup gauges in row below.
Thoroughly enjoy your site.
Thanks for all your efforts.
Paul
RV-8 QB
N9NM
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| Subject: | Re: Gas scooter fits in baggage compartment |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Greg Milner" <tldrgred@execpc.com>
Just wanted to let people know it`s slick having a compact mode of transportation.
I think the spec weight is with the box it`s shipped in (not a factor for
me). Don`t forget the mono-shock suspension when considering one. It smooths out
terrain.
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| Subject: | Redimple The Skin? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "John" <n1cxo320@salidaco.com>
I used an Avery C-frame to build my slow-build RV6A and a normal carpenter's
steel headed hammer. I placed the shaft down into the pre-drilled hole and
gave it one good whack. Out of the thousands of dimples I didn't have one
that was under-dimpled.....I think some may be over analyzing this rather
simple procedure.
FWIW
John
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| Subject: | Re: Propeller Performance Testing |
--> RV-List message posted by: Laird Owens <owens@aerovironment.com>
Charlie,
I got a chance to do a quick check on the conditions below. Same
8000 DA, full throttle, leaned 50 deg rich of peak at 2700 rpm, then
reduced rpm by 100 and noted fuel flow. Now my fuel flow isn't the
most rock stable number on the instrument panel, so I took the best
average of what I was seeing.
Since we're really changing the power by reducing RPM, I'd expect to
be able to get better fuel flow by tweaking the mixture for the new
RPM, but I didn't do that to keep the test points the same. So on
the surface it looks more like a 10% increase in fuel flow for 2% of
kts/hr.
2680 rpm = 178kts = 12.1 gph
2600 rpm = 178kts = 11.8 gph
2500 rpm = 176kts = 11.3 gph
2400 rpm = 174kts = 10.8 gph
Laird
>--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie & Tupper England <cengland@netdoor.com>
>
>Laird,
>
>Thanks for the additional data points on prop testing. In my mind, the
>significance isn't the speed change, which was only 2%, but the fuel
>flow increase for effectively the same speed. 40% change in fuel flow
>is a pretty big deal even if there had been an increase in speed of 2%.
>
>If you have fuel flow measurement in your plane, would you do all of us
>the favor of measuring your fuel flow at the same MP & the 3 rpms? You
>shouldn't have to refly the speed test; just a flow number at that
>density altitude & each rpm. Logically, the flow will be lower at lower
>rpm but I'd really like to know if you see the same 40% increase from
>2400 to 2700 rpm.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Charlie
>
>
> >>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Laird Owens" <owens@aerovironment.com>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Of course the one thing I forgot to record was GPH for the different
>>>> RPM settings. Oh well.
>>>>
> >>> FInal results at 8000 DA:
>>>> 2680 = 178kts
>>>> 2600 = 178kts
>>>> 2500 = 176kts
> >>> 2400 = 174kts
> >>>
>>>> So....I didn't see the TAS rise that Jim did during his tests with the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>RV-6a.
>>>
>>>
>>>> At least that's what I found tonight.
>>>>
>>>> Laird
> >>>
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| Subject: | Re: panel lay out with Dynon |
--> RV-List message posted by: "lucky macy" <luckymacy@hotmail.com>
where's pics of panels w/o steam gauges?
thinking of going that route too...
lucky
do not archive
>From: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: RV-List: panel lay out with Dynon
>Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 05:42:07 -0800
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
>
> > In a message dated 12/8/2003 9:06:25 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> > http://rvproject.com/images/panel/panel_640x210.jpg
> > All that lovely space,
> > Paul
>
>I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic, but that's what I love about the
>ACS2002 (http://www.advanced-control-systems.com). It really does free up
>a
>ton of space. That and it's the most readable display out there, it has
>aural voice warnings, it's easily customized, etc. I think there's a good
>reason Van chose it for the RV-10.
>
>And if I was a little more cavalier, I could have done what Dana & Stein
>have done, which is get rid of the other steam gauges as well (and just use
>the Dynon). But I'm gonna feel a lot better having those when I'm in the
>soup.
>
>Just say no to panel clutter!
>
>do not archive
>)_( Dan
>RV-7 N714D
>http://www.rvproject.com
>
>
Winterize your home with tips from MSN House & Home.
http://special.msn.com/home/warmhome.armx
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| Subject: | Re: Redimple The Skin? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net>
The skin with dimples should be flat across the top.
To test for flatness, use a straight edge.
If not flat?, hit harder,
or more often,
or with a bigger hammer,
or a better hammer,
or any combination that gets the skin in the immediate area of the dimples
to lay flat.
Beat that aluminum into submition, wail on it until it's an arplane and then
go fly the damn thing {[;-).
Jim in Kelowna
----- Original Message -----
From: "John" <n1cxo320@salidaco.com>
Subject: RV-List: Redimple The Skin?
> --> RV-List message posted by: "John" <n1cxo320@salidaco.com>
>
> I used an Avery C-frame to build my slow-build RV6A and a normal
carpenter's
> steel headed hammer. I placed the shaft down into the pre-drilled hole and
> gave it one good whack. Out of the thousands of dimples I didn't have one
> that was under-dimpled.....I think some may be over analyzing this rather
> simple procedure.
> FWIW
>
> John
>
>
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| Subject: | Anyone in the Chicago area? |
vansairforce <vansairforce@yahoogroups.com>
--> RV-List message posted by: Bill VonDane <bill@vondane.com>
What kind of RV presence is there in the Chicago area? Any airparks?
-Bill VonDane
EAA Tech Counselor
RV-8A ~ N8WV
www.vondane.com
www.creativair.com
www.epanelbuilder.com
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| Subject: | Anyone in the Chicago area? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Don Mack" <don@dmack.net>
Private airparks and there location relative to Chicago
West - Napper Aero -
http://map.aeroplanner.com/mapping/chart/aptrpt.cfm?A=7&id=LL10
West - Brookeridge -
http://map.aeroplanner.com/mapping/chart/aptrpt.cfm?A=7&id=LL22
South - Meadow Creek -
http://map.aeroplanner.com/mapping/chart/aptrpt.cfm?A=7&id=2IL9
West - Riley - Grass Strip -
http://map.aeroplanner.com/mapping/chart/aptrpt.cfm?A=7&id=LL51
Public
West - Clow - http://airnav.com/airport/1C5
South - Lansing Municipal Airport - http://airnav.com/airport/KIGQ
West - Aurora - http://airnav.com/airport/KARR
SW - Lewis University / Lockpport - http://airnav.com/airport/KLOT
NW - Shaumburg - http://airnav.com/airport/06C
West - DuPage - http://airnav.com/airport/KDPA
SW - Joliet - http://airnav.com/airport/KJOT
South - Monee - http://airnav.com/airport/C56
SW - New Lenox - http://airnav.com/airport/1C2
NW - Palwaukee - http://airnav.com/airport/KPWK
There are lots of RV's in the area.
-----Original Message-----
--> RV-List message posted by: Bill VonDane <bill@vondane.com>
What kind of RV presence is there in the Chicago area? Any airparks?
-Bill VonDane
EAA Tech Counselor
RV-8A ~ N8WV
www.vondane.com
www.creativair.com
www.epanelbuilder.com
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| Subject: | Help - Jon Johanson and his RV4 trapped on American Antarctic |
base
--> RV-List message posted by: <John.Morrissey@csiro.au>
Hi Guys,
Jon has been a naughty boy! In a news article on this mornings news it
has been reported that Jon Johanson and his RV4 are trapped at the
American base in Antarctica and he is being refused permission and fuel
to fly his aircraft back home. Basically Jon wanted to fly his RV4 to
the south pole from NZ then onto South America. Unfortunately he
encountered strong headwinds that forced a diversion to the US base at
McMurdo. Upon landing Jon has been advised that the US will fly him home
but the RV4 will have to stay. As the base operates an ice runway the
RV4 will be lost in the summer melt if Jon cannot get permission from
the US to leave with his aircraft. Do we want to lose this historic
aircraft???
Can we on the list help?? Time for some letter writing from some RV US
citizens??
I'll send some URL's as sone as something appears in the written press.
Cheers
John Morrissey
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| Subject: | Re: Help - Jon Johanson and his RV4 trapped on American Antarctic |
base
--> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
John,
Count me in !!! Let's do what we can.
Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: <John.Morrissey@csiro.au>
Subject: RV-List: Help - Jon Johanson and his RV4 trapped on American
Antarctic base
> --> RV-List message posted by: <John.Morrissey@csiro.au>
>
> Hi Guys,
>
>
> Jon has been a naughty boy! In a news article on this mornings news it
> has been reported that Jon Johanson and his RV4 are trapped at the
> American base in Antarctica and he is being refused permission and fuel
> to fly his aircraft back home. Basically Jon wanted to fly his RV4 to
> the south pole from NZ then onto South America. Unfortunately he
> encountered strong headwinds that forced a diversion to the US base at
> McMurdo. Upon landing Jon has been advised that the US will fly him home
> but the RV4 will have to stay. As the base operates an ice runway the
> RV4 will be lost in the summer melt if Jon cannot get permission from
> the US to leave with his aircraft. Do we want to lose this historic
> aircraft???
>
>
> Can we on the list help?? Time for some letter writing from some RV US
> citizens??
>
>
> I'll send some URL's as sone as something appears in the written press.
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
> John Morrissey
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Help - Jon Johanson and his RV4 trapped on American |
Antarctic base
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jamie D. Painter" <rvbuilder@earthlink.net>
Sorry, but I'm not buying this. Sounds like some good old fashioned
American bashing to me. Why would they tell him he couldn't take off?
Ok, maybe their fuel supply is rationed down there and therefore they're
not giving him any. It's not as if they're holding him in handcuffs. A
search of news.google.com turns up absolutely nothing about this. If
anyone has any links, please provide them.
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On Tue, 2003-12-09 at 15:03, John.Morrissey@csiro.au wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: <John.Morrissey@csiro.au>
>
> Hi Guys,
>
>
> Jon has been a naughty boy! In a news article on this mornings news it
> has been reported that Jon Johanson and his RV4 are trapped at the
> American base in Antarctica and he is being refused permission and fuel
> to fly his aircraft back home. Basically Jon wanted to fly his RV4 to
> the south pole from NZ then onto South America. Unfortunately he
> encountered strong headwinds that forced a diversion to the US base at
> McMurdo. Upon landing Jon has been advised that the US will fly him home
> but the RV4 will have to stay. As the base operates an ice runway the
> RV4 will be lost in the summer melt if Jon cannot get permission from
> the US to leave with his aircraft. Do we want to lose this historic
> aircraft???
>
>
> Can we on the list help?? Time for some letter writing from some RV US
> citizens??
>
>
> I'll send some URL's as sone as something appears in the written press.
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
> John Morrissey
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Help - Jon Johanson and his RV4 trapped on American |
Antarctic base
--> RV-List message posted by: Steven Eberhart <newtech@newtech.com>
RV-8 builder and pilot Jim Inhofe is a US Senator. That would be a good
place to start. Don't know if he monitors this list but an e-mail or
phone call to him in the US senate couldn't hurt.
Steve Eberhart
RV-7A - still working on wings :-(
John.Morrissey@csiro.au wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: <John.Morrissey@csiro.au>
>
> Hi Guys,
>
>
> Jon has been a naughty boy! In a news article on this mornings news it
> has been reported that Jon Johanson and his RV4 are trapped at the
> American base in Antarctica and he is being refused permission and fuel
> to fly his aircraft back home. Basically Jon wanted to fly his RV4 to
> the south pole from NZ then onto South America. Unfortunately he
> encountered strong headwinds that forced a diversion to the US base at
> McMurdo. Upon landing Jon has been advised that the US will fly him home
> but the RV4 will have to stay. As the base operates an ice runway the
> RV4 will be lost in the summer melt if Jon cannot get permission from
> the US to leave with his aircraft. Do we want to lose this historic
> aircraft???
>
>
> Can we on the list help?? Time for some letter writing from some RV US
> citizens??
>
>
> I'll send some URL's as sone as something appears in the written press.
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
> John Morrissey
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Jon Johanson and his RV4 trapped on American Antarctic base |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Aircraft Technical Book Company" <winterland@rkymtnhi.com>
I have a friend who is a US Congressman. I am ready to ask for
intervention, but first I need some clarifications.
1] How did Jon expect to procure fuel for his return flight had he not had
to divert to McMurdo? (I can't believe he can stuff enough fuel in a -4 for
New Zealand to Puerto Arenas)
2] One does not plan a flight of this nature without several alternates.
Was Mcmurdo not a planned alternate? As being such, did he not plan for
fuel availability as a part of naming it an alternate? Is fuel available
for him at other alternates on the continent?
3] And as someone eluded to; does McMurdo even have 100LL fuel? Or just
jet A?
Andy
----- Original Message -----
From: Jamie D. Painter <rvbuilder@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Help - Jon Johanson and his RV4 trapped on American
Antarctic base
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Jamie D. Painter"
<rvbuilder@earthlink.net>
>
> Sorry, but I'm not buying this. Sounds like some good old fashioned
> American bashing to me. Why would they tell him he couldn't take off?
> Ok, maybe their fuel supply is rationed down there and therefore they're
> not giving him any. It's not as if they're holding him in handcuffs. A
> search of news.google.com turns up absolutely nothing about this. If
> anyone has any links, please provide them.
>
> Do Not Archive
>
> On Tue, 2003-12-09 at 15:03, John.Morrissey@csiro.au wrote:
> > --> RV-List message posted by: <John.Morrissey@csiro.au>
> >
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> >
> > Jon has been a naughty boy! In a news article on this mornings news it
> > has been reported that Jon Johanson and his RV4 are trapped at the
> > American base in Antarctica and he is being refused permission and fuel
> > to fly his aircraft back home. Basically Jon wanted to fly his RV4 to
> > the south pole from NZ then onto South America. Unfortunately he
> > encountered strong headwinds that forced a diversion to the US base at
> > McMurdo. Upon landing Jon has been advised that the US will fly him home
> > but the RV4 will have to stay. As the base operates an ice runway the
> > RV4 will be lost in the summer melt if Jon cannot get permission from
> > the US to leave with his aircraft. Do we want to lose this historic
> > aircraft???
> >
> >
> > Can we on the list help?? Time for some letter writing from some RV US
> > citizens??
> >
> >
> > I'll send some URL's as sone as something appears in the written press.
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> >
> > John Morrissey
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: panel lay out with Dynon |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
lucky,
I think Stein is planning on a panel with the Dynon as the main instrument.
I've said before, and people can certainly disagree, if I was going to build
a day VFR RV I would seriously consider putting in a Dynon, whiskey compass
and a Grand Rapids EIS 4000 engine moniter. This way you would have
horizon, DG, VIS, Alt, airspeed, TC, slip, g-meter, gray code to
transponder, voltmeter, egt, cht, oat, rpm, carb temp, mp, fuel level, fuel
flow, oil pressure, oil temp...........the list goes on in two instruments
that would weigh less than 4 lbs. at 3K.
Throw you a couple switches, some type of radio and a
transponder......wiring.....what wiring!!
Dana Overall
Richmond, KY
RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic"
Finish kit
Buying Instruments. Hangar flying my Dynon.
http://rvflying.tripod.com
do not archive
>From: "lucky macy" <luckymacy@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV-List: panel lay out with Dynon
>Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 11:47:39 -0500
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "lucky macy" <luckymacy@hotmail.com>
>
>where's pics of panels w/o steam gauges?
>
>thinking of going that route too...
>
>lucky
>do not archive
>
>
> >From: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
> >Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
> >To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: Re: RV-List: panel lay out with Dynon
> >Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 05:42:07 -0800
> >
> >--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
> >
> > > In a message dated 12/8/2003 9:06:25 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> > > http://rvproject.com/images/panel/panel_640x210.jpg
> > > All that lovely space,
> > > Paul
> >
> >I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic, but that's what I love about the
> >ACS2002 (http://www.advanced-control-systems.com). It really does free
>up
> >a
> >ton of space. That and it's the most readable display out there, it has
> >aural voice warnings, it's easily customized, etc. I think there's a
>good
> >reason Van chose it for the RV-10.
> >
> >And if I was a little more cavalier, I could have done what Dana & Stein
> >have done, which is get rid of the other steam gauges as well (and just
>use
> >the Dynon). But I'm gonna feel a lot better having those when I'm in the
> >soup.
> >
> >Just say no to panel clutter!
> >
> >do not archive
> >)_( Dan
> >RV-7 N714D
> >http://www.rvproject.com
> >
> >
>
>Winterize your home with tips from MSN House & Home.
>http://special.msn.com/home/warmhome.armx
>
>
Shop online for kids toys by age group, price range, and toy category at
MSN Shopping. No waiting for a clerk to help you! http://shopping.msn.com
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| Subject: | Re: Help - Jon Johanson and his RV4 trapped on |
American Antarctic base
--> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com> American Antarctic
base
I suspect the problem is that they don't have any avgas there. Everything
that normally flys into McMurdo would be turbine-powered and I bet all
their generators, etc are diesel-powered. And I can understand the USN not
wanting to go through the hassle and expense to fly in avgas just for him.
Kevin Horton
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Jamie D. Painter" <rvbuilder@earthlink.net>
>
>Sorry, but I'm not buying this. Sounds like some good old fashioned
>American bashing to me. Why would they tell him he couldn't take off?
>Ok, maybe their fuel supply is rationed down there and therefore they're
>not giving him any. It's not as if they're holding him in handcuffs. A
>search of news.google.com turns up absolutely nothing about this. If
>anyone has any links, please provide them.
>
>Do Not Archive
>
>On Tue, 2003-12-09 at 15:03, John.Morrissey@csiro.au wrote:
> > --> RV-List message posted by: <John.Morrissey@csiro.au>
> >
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> >
> > Jon has been a naughty boy! In a news article on this mornings news it
> > has been reported that Jon Johanson and his RV4 are trapped at the
> > American base in Antarctica and he is being refused permission and fuel
> > to fly his aircraft back home. Basically Jon wanted to fly his RV4 to
> > the south pole from NZ then onto South America. Unfortunately he
> > encountered strong headwinds that forced a diversion to the US base at
> > McMurdo. Upon landing Jon has been advised that the US will fly him home
> > but the RV4 will have to stay. As the base operates an ice runway the
> > RV4 will be lost in the summer melt if Jon cannot get permission from
> > the US to leave with his aircraft. Do we want to lose this historic
> > aircraft???
> >
> >
> > Can we on the list help?? Time for some letter writing from some RV US
> > citizens??
> >
> >
> > I'll send some URL's as sone as something appears in the written press.
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> >
> > John Morrissey
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| Subject: | Re: Help - Jon Johanson and his RV4 trapped on American |
Antarctic base
--> RV-List message posted by: "Eustace Bowhay" <ebowhay@jetstream.net>
Jon still has some 100LL on board and he can get by with some auto fuel by
mixing the two. The summer supply ships will be arriving soon to resupply.
Can't believe that a base as large as McMurdo can not spare a few gallons of
auto fuel, something is wrong.
Eustace Bowhay
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jamie D. Painter" <rvbuilder@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Help - Jon Johanson and his RV4 trapped on American
Antarctic base
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Jamie D. Painter"
<rvbuilder@earthlink.net>
>
> Sorry, but I'm not buying this. Sounds like some good old fashioned
> American bashing to me. Why would they tell him he couldn't take off?
> Ok, maybe their fuel supply is rationed down there and therefore they're
> not giving him any. It's not as if they're holding him in handcuffs. A
> search of news.google.com turns up absolutely nothing about this. If
> anyone has any links, please provide them.
>
> Do Not Archive
>
> On Tue, 2003-12-09 at 15:03, John.Morrissey@csiro.au wrote:
> > --> RV-List message posted by: <John.Morrissey@csiro.au>
> >
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> >
> > Jon has been a naughty boy! In a news article on this mornings news it
> > has been reported that Jon Johanson and his RV4 are trapped at the
> > American base in Antarctica and he is being refused permission and fuel
> > to fly his aircraft back home. Basically Jon wanted to fly his RV4 to
> > the south pole from NZ then onto South America. Unfortunately he
> > encountered strong headwinds that forced a diversion to the US base at
> > McMurdo. Upon landing Jon has been advised that the US will fly him home
> > but the RV4 will have to stay. As the base operates an ice runway the
> > RV4 will be lost in the summer melt if Jon cannot get permission from
> > the US to leave with his aircraft. Do we want to lose this historic
> > aircraft???
> >
> >
> > Can we on the list help?? Time for some letter writing from some RV US
> > citizens??
> >
> >
> > I'll send some URL's as sone as something appears in the written press.
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> >
> > John Morrissey
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Help - Jon Johanson (long) |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Andrew Barker" <Andrew@trutrakap.com>
To all on the RV list...
This is all of the information that we have at this time. Jon is our
(TruTrak) distributor in Australia, I e-mailed him as soon as I found out
that there was a problem.
>Hi Andrew,
>Yes, please go ahead and post the press release.
>If you know of anyone who can exert political pressure to persuade the
>"boss" of the govt agency that controls the McMurdo base to let Jon have
>(or buy) 400litres of fuel that would be a great help. The Foreign
>Minister here is working on the case . It will only be resolved at the
>political level as it needs the highest authority for the McMurdo station
>director to be told he has to help. The normal rules are not to help a
>"tourist". We are not sure if there is any spare Avgas at the base but
>there is ordinary petrol which will be OK as Jon can mix this with his
>remaining fuel.
>Jon has done an amazing job to fly 26.5 hours and go over the Pole - he is
>the first! As the weatherman said afterwards it was the "a" (antarctic)
>unpredictability factor that got him with the headwinds that were much
>stronger than forecast.
>Be assured that Jon is safe on the ground and his airplane is OK too.
>Regards,
> Sue Ball
and here is the press release on the flight...
MEDIA RELEASE 10 DECEMBER 2003
Jon Johanson sets new Polar Flight record
On Monday 8 December, Australian pilot, Jon Johanson became the first pilot
to fly a homebuilt, single engine aircraft over the South Pole. It is
believed that he is also the first person ever to fly a fixed wing aircraft
solo over the South Pole on a long distance flight.
Jon set this new world record during a non-stop flight from Invercargill,
New Zealand to overfly the South Pole before landing at the joint
US(McMurdo) / NZ (Scott )Base in Antarctica.
He flew his special RV-4 aircraft, call sign VH-NOJ, that he has already
flown three times around the world including over the North Pole.
His aircraft was modified for this history-making flight with a specialised
engine and increased fuel capacity.
The total flight distance was 3,345 nautical miles and took 26.5 hours.
The flight has taken years of planning. Jon is delighted to have made it
this week, in time for the centenary of powered flight on 17 December 2003.
Jon's flight is an amazing effort, worthy of recognition in the history of
aviation as a true endurance flight in an experimental aircraft. He has
re-created the pioneering spirit that led to that first powered flight a 100
years ago.
Jon left his home town of Adelaide South Australia quietly on Saturday
morning for a 10 hour flight to Invercargill, New Zealand.
Jon took off for his record flight on Sunday, at 5.30pm Adelaide time (8pm
in New Zealand). He planned to fly direct from Invercargill to the
Antarctic, over the South Pole and then to Ushuaia in Argentina.
But headwinds were much stronger than forecast. With airports few and far
between in the Antarctic, Jon changed his destination to fly to McMurdo
after overflying the South Pole. Jon remains at McMurdo /Scott Base unable
to depart until he can get more fuel. The Australian Government is
currently negotiating with relevant US/NZ authorities to assist.
Last week Jon made a final test flight, setting a new class record Round
Australia, flying the designated course from Adelaide via Melbourne, Sydney,
Brisbane, Townsville, Darwin, Port Hedland (fuel stop), Carnarvon, Perth and
back to Adelaide. His elapsed time was 38.5 hours which included only one
stop of 1.5 hours. This record breaking flight was just one of the flights
in the extensive test program undertaken during the planning for the flight
over the South Pole.
All the work on Jon's aircraft was done at Parafield Airport in South
Australia, mostly self-funded by Jon with some help from a few key sponsors
who were willing to support Jon's vision with their products and services.
For more information contact: Sue Ball 0417 813 699
Dick Smith 02
9450 0600
Photos of Jon are available on http://users.senet.com.au/~jonj/photos.html
Andrew Barker
TruTrak Flight Systems
479-751-0250
www.trutrakap.com
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| Subject: | Re: RV6-A Constant Speed Upgrade |
--> RV-List message posted by: czechsix@juno.com
Guys, one thing to keep in mind...several have made comments to the effect that
a C.S. prop isn't any faster than a correctly pitched cruise prop. This is absolutely
correct....BUT...remember that this is only true under certain limited
conditions, primarily those where the FP prop can run wide-open-throttle without
overspeeding, which is only possible above a certain altitude (anywhere
from 5-12K' according to pilot reports I've read from flying RV's)....and the
altitude depends on several factors including HP and airframe drag, but the pitch
of the FP prop is the primary consideration.
To relate all that to real life, if you have an "average" pitch recommended by
Vans for your Sensenich, and you're flying formation with your buddy who has a
CS prop down at 3500', he's going to outrun you simply because he can open it
up all the way whereas you cannot run W.O.T. without exceeding 2700 rpm. If
you both climb to something like 8-10K (or wherever you can open up your throttle
all the way), you'll probably be almost exactly the same speed. I think Rusty
Duffy found the Sensenich to be slightly faster than the older model Hartzell
(not the new blended airfoil model) once he was able to open the throttle
all the way on the Sensenich. If you climb even higher, I would imagine (although
I don't have any evidence to back it up) that the CS prop would once again
gain a speed advantage because the rpm on the FP application would be steadily
decreasing even with full throttle, whereas the CS prop could continue to
run higher rpms if it proved beneficial for more spee
d.
Not a flame to anyone, just some caveats to keep in mind if you're pondering the
FP vs CS options. The CS is more flexible in ALL operating conditions, the
FP is only optimized for one speed condition...
--Mark Navratil
Cedar Rapids, Iowa
RV-8A N2D finishing...Sensenich sold...blended-airfoil Hartzell shipping this month...
From: "Dennis Persyk" <dpersyk@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: RV-List: Re: RV6-A Constant Speed Upgrade
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dennis Persyk" <dpersyk@worldnet.att.net>
Hi Pete,
The constant speed prop will not give you any faster cruise speed than a
correctly pitched fixed-pitch prop. What it will give you is faster climb
and a greater margin of safety. With the constant speed prop you have
greater obstacle clearance climb and the ability to make steep, controlled
descents without overspeeding the engine.
Dennis Persyk N600DP 6A C/S sold
Specs and pictures at http://home.att.net/~dpersyk/rv6a.htm
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| Subject: | Re: Jon Johanson and his RV4 trapped on American Antarctic base |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Eustace Bowhay" <ebowhay@jetstream.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Aircraft Technical Book Company" <winterland@rkymtnhi.com>
Subject: RV-List: Jon Johanson and his RV4 trapped on American Antarctic
base
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Aircraft Technical Book Company"
<winterland@rkymtnhi.com>
>
> I have a friend who is a US Congressman. I am ready to ask for
> intervention, but first I need some clarifications.
>
> 1] How did Jon expect to procure fuel for his return flight had he not
had
> to divert to McMurdo? (I can't believe he can stuff enough fuel in a -4
for
> New Zealand to Puerto Arenas)
Jon had 34 hours of fuel on bourd when he left New Zealand and planning his
flight using the aviation forcast he expected to arrive at Puerto Arenas
with some three hours of reserve. Jon converted his RV 4 wing to a complete
wet wing includeing the tips and by useing the large reserve tank that he
used for his three previous round the world fights was able to get that
amount of fuel on. His take-off wieght was around 3200 lbs.leaving New
Zealand.
>
> 2] One does not plan a flight of this nature without several alternates.
> Was Mcmurdo not a planned alternate? As being such, did he not plan for
> fuel availability as a part of naming it an alternate? Is fuel available
> for him at other alternates on the continent?
I don't know all the details of his flight plan but knowing Jon he would
have all his bases covered.
>
> 3] And as someone eluded to; does McMurdo even have 100LL fuel? Or just
> jet A
I am sure that the Ant-Arctic is the same as the Arctic which is now almost
100% Jet fuel and Jon was aware of this but by the fact that he can mix with
auto fuel the fuel situation was not considered a problem.
As has happened to all of us that have flown for many years, sometimes
things don't go as exactly planned, I unserstand that as he got closer to
the Pole the head winds were double what was forcast (60-70 knots at times)
and in order to conserve as much 100LL as possible to mix with auto fuel
McMurdo was his best choice.
Jon is an outstanding pilot as well as a true gentleman and to be treated
this way is just terrible.
Eustace Bowhay
>
> Andy
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jamie D. Painter <rvbuilder@earthlink.net>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Help - Jon Johanson and his RV4 trapped on American
> Antarctic base
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Jamie D. Painter"
> <rvbuilder@earthlink.net>
> >
> > Sorry, but I'm not buying this. Sounds like some good old fashioned
> > American bashing to me. Why would they tell him he couldn't take off?
> > Ok, maybe their fuel supply is rationed down there and therefore they're
> > not giving him any. It's not as if they're holding him in handcuffs. A
> > search of news.google.com turns up absolutely nothing about this. If
> > anyone has any links, please provide them.
> >
> > Do Not Archive
> >
> > On Tue, 2003-12-09 at 15:03, John.Morrissey@csiro.au wrote:
> > > --> RV-List message posted by: <John.Morrissey@csiro.au>
> > >
> > > Hi Guys,
> > >
> > >
> > > Jon has been a naughty boy! In a news article on this mornings news it
> > > has been reported that Jon Johanson and his RV4 are trapped at the
> > > American base in Antarctica and he is being refused permission and
fuel
> > > to fly his aircraft back home. Basically Jon wanted to fly his RV4 to
> > > the south pole from NZ then onto South America. Unfortunately he
> > > encountered strong headwinds that forced a diversion to the US base at
> > > McMurdo. Upon landing Jon has been advised that the US will fly him
home
> > > but the RV4 will have to stay. As the base operates an ice runway the
> > > RV4 will be lost in the summer melt if Jon cannot get permission from
> > > the US to leave with his aircraft. Do we want to lose this historic
> > > aircraft???
> > >
> > >
> > > Can we on the list help?? Time for some letter writing from some RV US
> > > citizens??
> > >
> > >
> > > I'll send some URL's as sone as something appears in the written
press.
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > >
> > > John Morrissey
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | EAA link to Jon Johanson and his RV4 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "RV6 Flyer" <rv6_flyer@hotmail.com>
http://www.eaa.org/communications/eaanews/031209_johanson.html
Gary A. Sobek
"My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell,
1,410 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA
http://SoCAL_WVAF.rvproject.com
Take advantage of our best MSN Dial-up offer of the year six months
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| Subject: | Redimple The Skin? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Hassel" <bob@hassel-usa.com>
This thread makes me really excited about my DRDT-1 frame that's on the back
of a Fed Ex truck headed my way ( http://www.experimentalaero.com/ )!
I've done most of my emp using the standard Avery frame. While it wasn't
mounted I did have really straight skins and fairly consistent results -
mostly my arms just wore out :o)
Hence the new dimpling frame.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jim Jewell
Subject: Re: RV-List: Redimple The Skin?
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net>
The skin with dimples should be flat across the top.
To test for flatness, use a straight edge.
If not flat?, hit harder,
or more often,
or with a bigger hammer,
or a better hammer,
or any combination that gets the skin in the immediate area of the dimples
to lay flat.
Beat that aluminum into submition, wail on it until it's an arplane and then
go fly the damn thing {[;-).
Jim in Kelowna
----- Original Message -----
From: "John" <n1cxo320@salidaco.com>
Subject: RV-List: Redimple The Skin?
> --> RV-List message posted by: "John" <n1cxo320@salidaco.com>
>
> I used an Avery C-frame to build my slow-build RV6A and a normal
carpenter's
> steel headed hammer. I placed the shaft down into the pre-drilled hole and
> gave it one good whack. Out of the thousands of dimples I didn't have one
> that was under-dimpled.....I think some may be over analyzing this rather
> simple procedure.
> FWIW
>
> John
>
>
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| Subject: | John Johanson - another new article |
--> RV-List message posted by: <John.Morrissey@csiro.au>
Hi All,
For those of you interested have a look at
http://theaustralian.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,8122136%255E1702,00
.html
The picture about what Jon's troubles are seems to be getting clearer
all the time and do vary a bit from the TV news story broadcast this
morning. The main issue revolves around the lack of resources in the
Antarctic regarding fuel. Understandable.
Watch this space :-)
Cheers
John Morrissey
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| Subject: | Re: Help - Jon Johanson |
--> RV-List message posted by: kempthornes <kempthornes@earthlink.net>
So, does anyone know anyone at CBS or NBC? How about the AOPA, they always
tell us how many problems they solve - are they working on this?
K. H. (Hal) Kempthorne
RV6-a N7HK - Three trips to OSH now.
PRB (El Paso de Robles, CA)
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| Subject: | Re: John Johanson - another new article |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Pardue" <n5lp@warpdriveonline.com>
> --> RV-List message posted by: <John.Morrissey@csiro.au>
>
> The picture about what Jon's troubles are seems to be getting clearer
> all the time and do vary a bit from the TV news story broadcast this
> morning. The main issue revolves around the lack of resources in the
> Antarctic regarding fuel. Understandable.
>
Dr. Jerri Nielson's book "Ice Bound," as well as being an astonishing
account of her treatment for breast cancer by herself and her fellow
"polies" gives a good feeling for what an antarctic station is like. It is
a lot like a space station when it comes to the expense and difficulty of
bringing material in and EVERYTHING needs to be flown in at certain limited
times. They practice extreme forms of conservation and recycling.
I suspect the only gasoline is budgeted tightly for snowmobiles and I would
not be too hard on them if they can't quickly and immediately come up with
what a hobbiest needs. I have a lot of respect for Jon and I doubt he has
any complaints. I think what they owe him is human decency and what he
needs to live. I bet he understands that.
Do not archive
Larry Pardue
Carlsbad, NM
RV-6 N441LP Flying
http://n5lp.net
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| Subject: | Re: Cockpit "Audio out" to videocamera |
--> RV-List message posted by: "David Carter" <dcarter@datarecall.net>
I bought the "attenuating audio cable" as suggested and it worked fine
Saturday.
"Thanks" to all on both lists for the excellent suggestions. This one seems
to be the easiest to implement and best value. If I'd had a small mick to
put in earcup, that would have also been a "top pick".
David
----- Original Message -----
From: "James E. Clark" <james@nextupventures.com>
Subject: RE: RV-List: Cockpit "Audio out" to videocamera
> --> RV-List message posted by: "James E. Clark" <james@nextupventures.com>
>
> Try ...
>
>
> 42-2152
>
> 6.5' Attenuating Dubbing Cord
>
> $3.99
> ... FEATURES: Connects earphone jack from radio, cassette or CD to
> recorder's input or mic jack 1/8" phone plug on both ends Length
> 6-1/2-feet
>
> Radio Shack
> 42-2152
>
>
> James
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of David Carter
> > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 5:33 PM
> > To: RV-list; aeroelectric-list
> > Subject: RV-List: Cockpit "Audio out" to videocamera
> >
> >
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "David Carter" <dcarter@datarecall.net>
> >
>
>
> >[SNIP]
>
> >
> > When I replay cockpit recordings, the audio of the video camera is
> > distorted - amplitude too high coming out of intercom to be
> > compatible with
> > video recorder.
> > Appreciate any tips.
> >
> > David Carter
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| Subject: | Jon Johanson (Long) |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Eustace Bowhay" <ebowhay@jetstream.net>
I normally don't get involved in this kind of discussion on the RV list but the
situation with Jon has really saddened me.
What ever is happening to good old fashioned good will. In 1952 I was hired by
a major oil company headquartered in Tulsa OK to organize and head up a Canadian
aviation section to take care of there upcoming exploration program. I spent
several months flying out of Tulsa as a indoctrination into the company. I met
so many great people many who remained friends for years.
On another note through aviation I met Clayton Scott, one of the test pilots for
Boeing during the 707 development. Spent an afternoon with him and his crew
doing stalls in a 707.
After World War II working for a small flying school in Calgary I was ferrying
a Aeronca Champ back from Middletown and got caught in a strong wing north of
Great Falls and noticed a wind sock flying at some farm buildings. When I circled
to have a look two fellows came out of the house and motioned for me to land.
They walked to a big shed and signaled for me to come on down. I lowered the
Champ down and one on each wing pushed me into the shed and invited me to overnight,
they also had a Champ in the shed.
Because of all the help and kindness I have received all through my aviation career
I have a really warm feeling and because of this made it a practice to help
others where ever I can. Some years after retiring I got a call from a friend
that was having pilot problems on a Aztec that was flying fire patrol and asked
me to fill in until a replacement could be found. One morning while I was
tidying up the Aztec a C180 landed and taxied up to the refueling pumps nearby.
I didn't pay much attention other than it had a N registration. A few minutes
later I heard the engine start and then a lot of strange noises, I looked around
and fibleglass parts were flying everywhere.
He had pulled up to the cabinets on his off side and when he started away forgot
about the second cabinet and turned into it. Fortunately the prop only hit fiberglass
and was running at low RPM. I walked over and he was just devastated.
He had his wife and young daughter with him and this was the first day of their
holidays.
In the course of our conversation he said he was from Snohomish just by Seattle
and that he had a spare prop at his airport. Well I thought about this for a
bit and realized I didn't have a flight that day so why not go pick up his spare
prop. He off course was concerned about the cost and I told him not to worry
about it. We removed the damaged prop and took it with us, picked up his spare
about a four hour round trip, installed it and had him ready to go the next
morning. He asked what he owed me and my reply was just put some fuel in the
Aztec.
In the summer of 1998 I took Jon Johanson in my RV 6 on a tour through the Canadian
arctic to give him and idea of what he could expect on his planned flight
over the North Pole the following year. We stopped at a friends place who owns
a lodge on Great Bear Lake and when we fueled up to leave I asked what I owed
him and his reply was "forget it we spill more than that around here".
So what's this got to do with Jon ? I wonder if the management at McMurdo has already
forgotten that for what ever reason a few months back they were unable
to rescue the sick crew member at the south pole and we picked him up with a Twin
Otter when the temperature was -65F. In Jon's case all he had to do was say
"it's not really according to our policy but we can give you some auto fuel
and send him on his way.
Eustace Bowhay
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| Subject: | Shoulder Harness and Baggage |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jerry Huether" <jhuether@comcast.net>
Curious if anyone has found a method to install shoulder harnesses without
passing them through the baggage area of the RV6 or RV7. I'm interested in
allowing for(more)bulky items in the baggage area of this aircraft.
What would be the penalty in terms of cost, weight, and build time?
Jerry Huether
Tualatin, Oregon
Planning the Storage Shed
to make room for the RV7 (Tip Up)
(Preview Plans)
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| Subject: | Does any KSTL area builder need help or want to show off RV project? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jerry Huether" <jhuether@comcast.net>
Is there anyone in the STL area building an RV that is interested in some
help? Situation as follows:
Possible flying job in STL area will require some reserve (on call) time
that may be ideal for me to learn more about RV construction and assist
someone building or flying an RV (more than 10 yrs experience as CFI, CFII),
and FWIW over 1 year as an apprentice A&P.
Feel free to reply off list.
Jerry Huether
Tualatin, Oregon
RV7 Preview Plans...
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| Subject: | Fuel flow pulsation damper |
--> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us>
Folks,
second time I'm asking this, and second time I got nothing useful out of
archives.
The steel ball fuel flow pulsation damper that Matt sells just arrived. It
is a ball with a nipple on the side. It has no extention extending into it
to keep air trapped inside no matter what attitude the aircraft might find
itself.
So is air being trapped inside important to its function, it seems like it
should be, but I'll be darned if I can tell how it would stay there if one
flies upside down or negative for any time.
Also the schematic is lacking in detail, specifically it does not really
give good data for a system with two pumps such as a boost and an engine
driven one. This is an issue because it will be a pressure line with the
boost pump on, and a suction line with it off if the transducer is between
the boost pump and the engine driven one such as in my installation.
Although the boost pump causes it to oscillate more and read higher the
transducer oscillates with either pump, soooo, I was hoping this would make
the thing a little more stable if I can figure out where the heck to install
it. Any experiences out there.
My existing system is tank - boost pump - fuel valve - transducer on floor
in cabin - gascolator - hose to engine FP - hose to carb. I was kinda
hoping that having the transducer between the ball and the gascolator would
be the best option, but now I don't know.
thx
W
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| Subject: | Re: John Johanson - another new article |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Eustace Bowhay" <ebowhay@jetstream.net>
Larry McMurdo is a large established base going back to the fifties and has
a population varying from 250 to 1100 depending on the season. Has many
permanent buildings built on rock on the coast and is serviced by ships in
the summer months. They have many gasoline powered vehicles such as pickups
etc. and has storage facilities for thousands of gallons of various fuels.
Eustace
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Pardue" <n5lp@warpdriveonline.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: John Johanson - another new article
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Pardue" <n5lp@warpdriveonline.com>
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: <John.Morrissey@csiro.au>
> >
>
> > The picture about what Jon's troubles are seems to be getting clearer
> > all the time and do vary a bit from the TV news story broadcast this
> > morning. The main issue revolves around the lack of resources in the
> > Antarctic regarding fuel. Understandable.
> >
>
> Dr. Jerri Nielson's book "Ice Bound," as well as being an astonishing
> account of her treatment for breast cancer by herself and her fellow
> "polies" gives a good feeling for what an antarctic station is like. It
is
> a lot like a space station when it comes to the expense and difficulty of
> bringing material in and EVERYTHING needs to be flown in at certain
limited
> times. They practice extreme forms of conservation and recycling.
>
> I suspect the only gasoline is budgeted tightly for snowmobiles and I
would
> not be too hard on them if they can't quickly and immediately come up with
> what a hobbiest needs. I have a lot of respect for Jon and I doubt he has
> any complaints. I think what they owe him is human decency and what he
> needs to live. I bet he understands that.
>
> Do not archive
>
> Larry Pardue
> Carlsbad, NM
>
> RV-6 N441LP Flying
> http://n5lp.net
>
>
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| Subject: | John Johanson - another new article |
--> RV-List message posted by: <John.Morrissey@csiro.au>
Hi all,
Looking at the Australian Antarctic Division web site I notice there is
a re-supply voyage in late December (we just missed the last one). I've
sent them an email asking how much to ship the fuel. It will be
interesting to see the answer.
Voyage details
Voyage 5 Ship : Vasiliy Golovnin Updated on 03-SEP-2003
Purpose of voyage : Continental resupply
Comments : This voyage is to undertake resupply (apart from cargo can be
carried on Voyage 2 to Davis) of all continental stations. The AAD
contact for this voyage is Chris McGuire. Any queries should be directed
to Chris on (03) 62323274 or chris.mcguire@aad.gov.au. To ensure that
there is not a backlog of cargo to be packed after closing date, Program
and Project Managers should arrange for Voyage 5 cargo to be delivered
to Macquarie 4 as early as possible. For further information on cargo
delivery to macquarie 4, please email cargo@aad.gov.au or phone (03)
62226382.
Unless alternative prior arrangements are made, cargo for this voyage
should be delivered before 28-NOV-2003. Enquiries regarding the delivery
of cargo should be directed to the AAD Cargo Facility Ph (61) 03 6222
6382. Cargo for this voyage should be delivered to the AAD's Cargo
Facility at Macquarie No.4, Hobart.
Voyage leader : MR Chris MCGUIRE
Deputy Leader : MR Brett QUINTON
Location Arrival Date Departure Date Visit details
Hobart 26/DEC/2003 30/DEC/2003 On-hire, load cargo, Casey and Mawson
SAB.
Casey 08/JAN/2004 14/JAN/2004 Resupply, deliver SAB, load RTA cargo.
Mawson 21/JAN/2004 27/JAN/2004 Resupply, deliver SAB, load RTA cargo,
retrieve summer personnel.
Davis 30/JAN/2004 05/FEB/2004 Minor resupply (see Voyage 2), load RTA
cargo.
Hobart 16/FEB/2004 18/FEB/2004 Discharge, off-hire.
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| Subject: | Help - Jon Johanson and his RV4 trapped on American |
Antarctic base
SUBJ_HAS_SPACES
--> RV-List message posted by: "John Brick" <jbrick@wolfenet.com>
Last report I read was that Polly Vacher aborted her flight last Friday from
Rothera to McMurdo because of winds. I'm sure she had fuel prepositioned at
McMurdo for her Piper Dakota.
http://www.worldwings.org/
jb
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Eustace Bowhay
> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 2:47 PM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Help - Jon Johanson and his RV4 trapped on
> American Antarctic base
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Eustace Bowhay" <ebowhay@jetstream.net>
>
> Jon still has some 100LL on board and he can get by with some auto fuel by
> mixing the two. The summer supply ships will be arriving soon to resupply.
> Can't believe that a base as large as McMurdo can not spare a few
> gallons of
> auto fuel, something is wrong.
>
> Eustace Bowhay
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