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1. 12:36 AM - Wingtips (Thomas Lukasczyk)
2. 04:27 AM - Looking for Bret Marquis (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta))
3. 05:57 AM - Re: Wingtips (linn walters)
4. 06:07 AM - Clecoes - 3/23" (Richard Dudley)
5. 06:13 AM - bad dies (Frazier, Vincent A)
6. 06:50 AM - Gas tank explosion hazard (Was: To Cork or not to Cork?) (P M Condon)
7. 07:34 AM - Note from Dynon on OAT (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta))
8. 08:29 AM - Re: Slider unlatched in flight (Jeff Dowling)
9. 08:30 AM - Space anyone? (Bill VonDane)
10. 08:31 AM - Re: Free Steamboat Condo... (Bill VonDane)
11. 08:51 AM - Propellers (Dave Sundberg)
12. 08:58 AM - Re: Night Vision Goggle Observations (Long) (SportAV8R@aol.com)
13. 10:03 AM - Re: Wingtips (Jim Oke)
14. 11:13 AM - Re: Wingtips (glenn.williams@businessacft.bombardier.com)
15. 11:21 AM - Re: Wingtips (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
16. 11:34 AM - Tank Dies (Richard Dudley)
17. 11:53 AM - Transition Training... (Bill VonDane)
18. 12:01 PM - Re: Free Steamboat Condo../ or Marble, Colorado. (LML Klingmuller)
19. 12:10 PM - Flying with Bob Archer Com Antennas? (Glenn Brasch)
20. 12:44 PM - Re: Dec 17th 2003 100 Years / What did you do today to celebrate? (Will & Lynda Allen)
21. 12:55 PM - Re: Flying with Bob Archer Com Antennas? (Laird Owens)
22. 01:18 PM - Re: Clecoes - 3/23" (Richard Dudley)
23. 01:29 PM - Re: Flying with Bob Archer Com Antennas? (Glenn Brasch)
24. 01:35 PM - Re: Flying with Bob Archer Com Antennas? (Ross Mickey)
25. 01:50 PM - Antenna/radio reception (Scott Bilinski)
26. 02:17 PM - Re: Dec 17th 2003 100 Years / What did you do today to celebrate? (Kosta Lewis)
27. 02:18 PM - Re: Tank Dies (Richard Dudley)
28. 02:45 PM - List: Third World? (Glen Matejcek)
29. 02:46 PM - Re: Flying with Bob Archer Com Antennas? (Laird Owens)
30. 02:46 PM - Re: Antenna/radio reception (RV6 Flyer)
31. 03:13 PM - Re: Dec 17th 2003 100 Years / What did you do today to celebrate? (Terry Watson)
32. 03:33 PM - RV-7A kit for sale (windsaloft@rmisp.com)
33. 04:18 PM - Re: Propellers (Randy Lervold)
34. 04:29 PM - Re: Antenna/radio reception (Kosta Lewis)
35. 04:42 PM - Re: Dec 17th 2003 100 Years / What did you do today to celebrate? (Kosta Lewis)
36. 05:24 PM - Re: Wingtips (Leesafur@aol.com)
37. 06:20 PM - Re: Dec 17th 2003 100 Years / What did you do today tocelebrate? (Doug Gray)
38. 07:13 PM - RV-List Prop Bolts (smoothweasel@juno.com)
39. 08:53 PM - Baffle Measurements.... (RV6AOKC@aol.com)
40. 09:10 PM - Re: Baffle Measurements.... (N223RV@aol.com)
41. 09:21 PM - Cork or not to Cork? (Darwin N. Barrie)
42. 09:31 PM - For Sale - RV-6 Almost done with a panel to die for (Tim Bryan)
43. 10:07 PM - Re: Note from Dynon on OAT (kempthornes)
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Thomas Lukasczyk" <Lukasczyk@gmx.net>
Hello RV-Builders
I put on the Wingtips last summer and I thought I would never have to worry
about them ever again. There are people telling about wingtips becoming
loose
and eventually falling off due to the rivets pulling out of the fiberglass.
I decided against the option of being able to take the aileron-pushrods out
without removing the wings and riveted them on using the supplied
pop-rivets.
The plans were asking for reinforcement aluminum-strips and I have seen
builders using epoxy, screws or proseal to put the fiberglass parts on. I
watched
the edge-distance clearances and even the remaining thickness after
countersinking the fiberglass looked ok to me. I do work with fiberglass a
lot and I
just cant see those rivets pulling out.
So there are no aluminum strips on my wingtips. Instead I used a heavy duty
sealing-adhesive to "glue" the fiberglass parts on while pulling the pop
rivets.
No doupt that an additional strip would have made a stronger attachement but
unfortunately my wing has already been finished and painted.
Is there anyone out there who is flying a RV without the strips and both
wingtips still on the plane? Do they really become loose after a while. Do I
have a to saw the tips off again in order to add the strips or something
else?
Thank you for your answer
Thomas, RV-4, just about to start the engine
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| Subject: | Looking for Bret Marquis |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
Does anyone have his current contact information?
He is a very old list member. Early 90's.
Thanks
Michael Stewart
Quality Assurance
404.236.3363
GO ISS!
"Why is it doing that and how do I make it stop?"
What an old pilot said while learning a new computerized cockpit
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--> RV-List message posted by: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
Thomas Lukasczyk wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Thomas Lukasczyk" <Lukasczyk@gmx.net>
>
>Hello RV-Builders
>
>
>I put on the Wingtips last summer and I thought I would never have to worry
>about them ever again. There are people telling about wingtips becoming
>loose
>and eventually falling off due to the rivets pulling out of the fiberglass.
>
Listers: I've never had an airplane that had tips riveted on. Simply
put, how do you get a good look down the wing when you're doing the
'conditional inspection'? How do you get in there to replace strobes,
power supplies etc? Have all the RV's had their wing tips riveted
on??? Does anyone know why they're that way?
Linn (-10 in the near future)
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>
>Thomas, RV-4, just about to start the engine
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: Richard Dudley <rhdudley@att.net>
Listers,
Since I'm in the last stages of building, I do not need many of my 3/32
clecoes. I'd be glad to sell a couple of hundred for 2/3 of the going
price. I will cover shipping.
You can't have too many clecoes.
Please contact me off list.
Richard Dudley
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Frazier, Vincent A" <VFrazier@usi.edu>
SNIP It turns out that they had a run of flat sets that the guy who was
doing the finish polishing got a little aggressive about his duty. The
set, instead of being flat had a significant crown to it - SNIP
Don't be shy about taking your dies over to the belt sander and sanding them flat.
The rough surface will help keep the rivet from sliding around and clinching.
Sand blasting the face of the flat set also works well.
I have a few untouched (nice and shiny) flat sets for use on the skin side of the
work, but for the shop head side I always grab the flat sets with the coarse
finish.
Take it FWIW, I drilled out hundreds of rivets on my first RV. On the Rocket I
almost never drilled any out.
Vince Frazier
1946 Stinson, NC97535, FOR SALE
F-1H Rocket, N540VF, Crazy Horse
<http://www.usi.edu/science/chemistry/vfrazier/page1.html>
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| Subject: | Gas tank explosion hazard (Was: To Cork or not to Cork?) |
--> RV-List message posted by: P M Condon <pcondon@mitre.org>
Another way to (somewhat) safely heat up a gas tank is to plumb the
exhaust from your car into the the tank. Use the shopvac plastic hose,
attach tightly to car exhause, start car, shove other end into tank
opening with a lot of gap so you don't over pressure the tank. Go make
some coffee. By the time you return, the atmosphere in the tank will be
moist and flooded with exhaust that will not ignite. Be sure all the
tank bays are flooded with the exhaust and be sure you don't get a
static spark from shoving the plastic hose in. From here you could apply
heat with a heat gun....but I am still chicken to take a torch or open
flame to a tank. Other folks do, the old timer who showed me this trick
has done it for years...he said its a old farmers trick used to repair
and soulder fuel tanks on tractors. I've seen car repair stations do
this too. You may want to consider cutting (fly cut) some new access
holes. This heat thing in a fuel tank dosen't sound safe.......oh well,
back to juggling running chain saws.
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| Subject: | Note from Dynon on OAT |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
One of my upsets with the Dynon was the lack of availability or OAT, and
hence, true airspeed. A very very valuable tool when flying above
sealevel. My Rocky Mountain had it, and it is the value I left on the
screen. I keep getting told "soon", and soon has come and gone.
Looks like I am still stuck without it. ARGH!!
Mike,
We are still working on the OAT and hope to have it available early next
year.
-----Original Message-----
From: Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta) [mailto:mstewart@iss.net]
Subject: OAT
Hows it coming?
Mike
------------
From: Gloria Hee [ ]
Subject: RE: General comment
Mr. Stewart,
We are continuing work on the OAT sensor and hope to have it available
late
this year.
Thank you for your interest.
-----Original Message-----
From: Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta) [mailto:mstewart@iss.net]
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 4:03 AM
To: info@dynondevelopment.com
Subject: General comment
Good morning.
Was wondering what the progress was on the OAT function?
I very much miss my true airspeed function on my RMI Encoder. This is
a
very valuable tool for measuring performance. I can only assume that
this is
coming soon.
Michael Stewart
RV 6A
Michael Stewart
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"Why is it doing that and how do I make it stop?"
What an old pilot said while learning a new computerized cockpit
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| Subject: | Re: Slider unlatched in flight |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling@earthlink.net>
Good job keeping cool and flying the airplane.
Jeff
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vansairforce <vansairforce@yahoogroups.com>
--> RV-List message posted by: Bill VonDane <bill@vondane.com>
Very cool stuff!
http://www.scaled.com/index.htm
http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/technology/rutan_update_031217.html
http://www.space.com/news/ssone_mishap_031218.html
http://www.space.com/futureofflight/
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| Subject: | Re: Free Steamboat Condo... |
--> RV-List message posted by: Bill VonDane <bill@vondane.com>
Next year we'll have to do something like this!
-Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: "Laird Owens" <owens@aerovironment.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Free Steamboat Condo...
--> RV-List message posted by: Laird Owens <owens@aerovironment.com>
>--> RV-List message posted by: Bill VonDane <bill@vondane.com>
>
>We should just all show up there, throw out money in a pile and drink some
>beers!
>
2's IN! You with me Gary (Zilik)?
Laird
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Dave Sundberg" <dfsund@aol.com>
There has been some great prop. comparison testing done recently, but
unfortunately it did not include the new "Blended Airfoil" c.s.
Hartzell. Van's is now offering this prop. in both 72" and 74" models
for the 7A. Any thoughts as to what the performance difference would be
between the two on an O-360? TIA for the info and I hope you all have a
great and safe holiday.
Dave
7A Wiring
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| Subject: | Re: Night Vision Goggle Observations (Long) |
--> RV-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com
In a message dated 12/16/2003 8:12:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, azpilot@extremezone.com
writes:
> The spectrum of light that night vision goggles use does not bleach out the rodobson
on your eyes, which is what you
> need for seeing at night
"rhodopsin" (and "iodopsin") are the proper spellings for anyone wanting to google
this topic for more info on dark adaptation in the human eye.
Thanks for the info. I have always been curious about the performance of currently
available discount/civilian NVG's.
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--> RV-List message posted by: Jim Oke <wjoke@shaw.ca>
Thomas;
I think this is one of those "why worry" situations. The very worst that
could happen is that after years of use you might see a few of those
pop-rivets getting loose and wobbly - not "likely" just "might". Anyway,
the actual in-flight stresses on the typical RV wingtips must be quite small
and these things are hardly a critical item (safe where they might interfer
with aileron travel). Thus any "wingtip falling off" problem should be
easily spotted in plenty of time to do a fix. Might be a bit of work fixing
up the paint, but that's years off into the future if ever.
FWIW, I pop-riveted my RV-3 tips on about 15 years ago (I think I used a
backing strip but its been a long time now) and I see not a hint of any
stress or problem with the poprivets. This despite a lot of outdoor storage
in some extreme climate conditions such as +35 C to -35 C every year.
In short, there are better things to worry about. Press on and go flying and
see what happens.
Jim Oke
RV-3, RV-6A
Winnipeg, MB
----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Lukasczyk" <Lukasczyk@gmx.net>
Subject: RV-List: Wingtips
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Thomas Lukasczyk" <Lukasczyk@gmx.net>
>
> Hello RV-Builders
>
>
> I put on the Wingtips last summer and I thought I would never have to
worry
> about them ever again. There are people telling about wingtips becoming
> loose
> and eventually falling off due to the rivets pulling out of the
fiberglass.
> I decided against the option of being able to take the aileron-pushrods
out
> without removing the wings and riveted them on using the supplied
> pop-rivets.
> The plans were asking for reinforcement aluminum-strips and I have seen
> builders using epoxy, screws or proseal to put the fiberglass parts on. I
> watched
> the edge-distance clearances and even the remaining thickness after
> countersinking the fiberglass looked ok to me. I do work with fiberglass a
> lot and I
> just cant see those rivets pulling out.
> So there are no aluminum strips on my wingtips. Instead I used a heavy
duty
> sealing-adhesive to "glue" the fiberglass parts on while pulling the pop
> rivets.
> No doupt that an additional strip would have made a stronger attachement
but
> unfortunately my wing has already been finished and painted.
> Is there anyone out there who is flying a RV without the strips and both
> wingtips still on the plane? Do they really become loose after a while. Do
I
> have a to saw the tips off again in order to add the strips or something
> else?
>
> Thank you for your answer
>
>
> Thomas, RV-4, just about to start the engine
>
> --
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> Neu: Preissenkung fr MMS und FreeMMS! http://www.gmx.net
>
>
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12/19/2003 12:34:18 PM
--> RV-List message posted by: glenn.williams@businessacft.bombardier.com
I have seen and plan to do this myself. Take #8 nutplates attach them to
the strip and countersink the fiberglass wing tips to accept the #8
countersunk screw. Install the tips and when the aircraft is painted the
screws will look nice. When inspection time comes remove the screws for a
look see and reinstall and touch up paint over the screws. I have seen
several RV's with this setup and it allows for quick removal to work on
wiring for the strobe power supplies if you have them mounted in the
outboard section of the wing. I would also reccomend using proseal where
the tips meet metal to weather proof that area against corrosion. It is a
simple matter to score the proseal with an exacto knife just prior to
removal of the tips for inspection purposes. and during reinstall use a
little proseal to seal the cut and paint over with touch up paint. A little
time is involved but in the grand scheme of things makes for a better
installation than the stock riveted wing tips. Just my opinion for what
it's worth
regards
Glenn Williams
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--> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com
Something y'all might want to consider is using hinges just like the cowling
sides- I recently did sheared tips this way and am very pleased with the
results- no ugly screws and they can be on/off in minutes- make that less than
a
minute when I get all the epoxy cleaned out of the holes and don't need to grab
the drill...
From The PossumWorks in TN
Mark/fiveonepw/ripsteel - gimme a month of good luck and this sucker is
airborne!!!
In a message dated 12/19/03 7:59:59 AM Central Standard Time,
lwalters2@cfl.rr.com writes:
> Listers: I've never had an airplane that had tips riveted on. Simply
> put, how do you get a good look down the wing when you're doing the
> 'conditional inspection'? How do you get in there to replace strobes,
> power supplies etc? Have all the RV's had their wing tips riveted
> on??? Does anyone know why they're that way?
> Linn (-10 in the near future)
> Do not archive
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--> RV-List message posted by: Richard Dudley <rhdudley@att.net>
Listers,
I have a pair of 3/32" tank dimpling dies that I no longer need. I built
my -6A tanks with them. They were purchased from Cleaveland. You can
have them for $20.
Please reply off line.
Richard Dudley
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| Subject: | Transition Training... |
vansairforce <vansairforce@yahoogroups.com>
--> RV-List message posted by: Bill VonDane <bill@vondane.com>
Anyone doing RV tailwheel training in the neighborhood of Colorado Springs, CO?
-Bill VonDane
EAA Tech Counselor
RV-8A ~ N8WV ~ Colorado Springs
www.vondane.com
www.creativair.com
www.epanelbuilder.com
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| Subject: | Re: Free Steamboat Condo../ or Marble, Colorado. |
--> RV-List message posted by: "LML Klingmuller" <l_klingmuller@earthlink.net>
Hey Bill, Count me in when you open up your doors next year!!! I will beer
and a sleeping bag.
I am getting bored flying to Front Range (Colorado) airports.
For those who want to do some mountain flying, the Colorado Pilots Association (www.ColoradoPilott.org) has a yearly flying to Marble. It is a private grass strip on the other side of Aspen. Flying there does require mountain flying experiment. You may consider participate in a one day course the CPA puts on once a year. Anyhow, I was surprised that the owner never saw an RV there, so lets show those Wichita AP makers there are other planes flying.
LML Klingmuller
l_klingmuller@earthlink.net
Why Wait? Move to EarthLink.
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| Subject: | Flying with Bob Archer Com Antennas? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Glenn Brasch" <gbrasch@earthlink.net>
Can any of you out there flying with these antennas advise on their performance?
Thanks in advance.
Glenn in Tucson, -9A Wings, Fuselage ordered.
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| Subject: | Dec 17th 2003 100 Years / What did you do today to celebrate? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Will & Lynda Allen" <linenwool@comcast.net>
I took off From Heathrow in a B.A. 747-400 just 10 minutes before 10:35 EST,
on my way home to Seattle from sunny South Africa. While I may have
preferred to be flying in one of the local air parades going on that day, it
was still cool to be on the ultimate accomplishment (a 747) of what orville
and wilbur started!
-Will
RV8 wings (back home and back in the garage.... yaaay!)
BTW: while in SA, I rented a 172 and went flying around Jo'burg.... airport
elevation 4517' and temperature 33c that day, seeing about 350' minute
climb.... yikes. And the 172 had an ADF radio with the old dials like the
DC3's used to have :-). Fun experience. Next time in S.A. I'm going to
complete my Validation so I can fly up into Botswana and Zimbabwe for
safari.... and use a 182 :-)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don Eaves
Subject: RV-List: Dec 17th 2003 100 Years / What did you do today to
celebrate?
--> RV-List message posted by: "Don Eaves" <doneaves@midsouth.rr.com>
I pulled my RV6 from the hangar and flew to OLV and witnesses the FIRST
flight of a Pitts 12.
I was the Technical counselor on the aircraft for over 4 years.
The past few weeks have been exciting. What an accomplishment after 4 +
years -
A first flight on Dec 17 2003. Congratulations Dave Robinson on your 1st
flight!
A TV crew came out from FOX 13 news and interviewed Dave and I was asked to
fly the camera man in my RV6 - Now how do you get 2 Grown men and a BIG
camera in a RV6 - It was not easy -
Thanks Orville and Wilbur Wright!
What did you do today to celebrate 100 years of powered flight?
Don Eaves
doneaves@midsouth.rr.com
RV 6 Flying 200 + Hrs.
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| Subject: | Re: Flying with Bob Archer Com Antennas? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Laird Owens <owens@aerovironment.com>
I've got his VOR antenna in the wingtip and it works fine....
Laird RV6
SoCal
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Glenn Brasch" <gbrasch@earthlink.net>
>
>Can any of you out there flying with these antennas advise on their
>performance? Thanks in advance.
>
>Glenn in Tucson, -9A Wings, Fuselage ordered.
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| Subject: | Re: Clecoes - 3/23" |
--> RV-List message posted by: Richard Dudley <rhdudley@att.net>
Thanks for all the responses for clecoes. Two folks responded first and
took all that I could spare.
Regards,
Richard Dudley
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Richard Dudley wrote:
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Richard Dudley <rhdudley@att.net>
>
> Listers,
>
> Since I'm in the last stages of building, I do not need many of my 3/32
> clecoes. I'd be glad to sell a couple of hundred for 2/3 of the going
> price. I will cover shipping.
>
> You can't have too many clecoes.
>
> Please contact me off list.
>
> Richard Dudley
>
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| Subject: | Re: Flying with Bob Archer Com Antennas? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Glenn Brasch" <gbrasch@earthlink.net>
I have heard the VOR/Nav antennas are fine, but there has been problems with
the Com, any feedback on Com antennas specifically would be appreciated.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Laird Owens" <owens@aerovironment.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Flying with Bob Archer Com Antennas?
> --> RV-List message posted by: Laird Owens <owens@aerovironment.com>
>
> I've got his VOR antenna in the wingtip and it works fine....
>
> Laird RV6
> SoCal
>
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| Subject: | Re: Flying with Bob Archer Com Antennas? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ross Mickey" <rmickey@ix.netcom.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Laird Owens" <owens@aerovironment.com>
> I've got his VOR antenna in the wingtip and it works fine....
Laird,
Could you describe how yours is positioned? Mine is as vertical as I could
get it right at the end of the aluminum wing where it meets the tip. My
reception is quite abit lower than my standard comm antenna mounted on my
belly.
Ross
RV6A N9PT
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| Subject: | Antenna/radio reception |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
Last weekend I heard a radio call from an airport 100 miles away. Is it
normal to have this kind of reception. I never had this happen with rental
planes.
Scott Bilinski
Eng dept 305
Phone (858) 657-2536
Pager (858) 502-5190
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| Subject: | Dec 17th 2003 100 Years / What did you do today to celebrate? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Kosta Lewis" <mikel@dimensional.com>
>While I may have preferred to be flying in one of the local air parades
>going on that day, it was still cool to be on the ultimate
accomplishment >(a 747) of what Orville and Wilbur started!
And to think the wing span of a 747 is longer than the Wright brother's
first flight!! 120 feet vs 211 feet 5 inches of 747 wing span.
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--> RV-List message posted by: Richard Dudley <rhdudley@att.net>
Thanks for the responses. Sorry, but I have sold the tank dies.
Regards,
Richard Dudley
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Richard Dudley wrote:
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Richard Dudley <rhdudley@att.net>
>
> Listers,
>
> I have a pair of 3/32" tank dimpling dies that I no longer need. I built
> my -6A tanks with them. They were purchased from Cleaveland. You can
> have them for $20.
>
> Please reply off line.
>
> Richard Dudley
>
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| Subject: | List: Third World? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Glen Matejcek" <aerobubba@earthlink.net>
Hi All-
As someone who has regular dealings with the Aeromedical center, I can shed
a little light on the situation with the FAA. At present, a large number
of the FAA doctors are in the middle east. Like half or more. They have
relatively recently kicked some of the special issuance work back to the
regional offices, which are not accustomed to this work. Were it not for
the Aeromedical branch of my union, I'd loose several months of employment
per year to the bureaucrats and paper shufflers. I would strongly advise
anyone with any unusual aspect to their certification process to tap into
any help they can get from EAA, AOPA, or ALPA. They are a tremendous
resource, and at your disposal for the asking.
gm
Second panel cut out and looking good!
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| Subject: | Re: Flying with Bob Archer Com Antennas? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Laird Owens <owens@aerovironment.com>
Ross,
It sounds like your confusing the VOR antenna I have and the COM
antenna. I've heard the COM antenna doesn't work well in the
wingtip, but I've also 2 local friends that like theirs.
Anyway, in case you did mean the VOR antenna, mine is mounted on the
upper surface of the old style wingtips, just as the instructions say.
I think Sam has some pictures and a review on his web site, the RV journal.
Good luck.
Laird
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Ross Mickey" <rmickey@ix.netcom.com>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Laird Owens" <owens@aerovironment.com>
>> I've got his VOR antenna in the wingtip and it works fine....
>
>Laird,
>
>Could you describe how yours is positioned? Mine is as vertical as I could
>get it right at the end of the aluminum wing where it meets the tip. My
>reception is quite abit lower than my standard comm antenna mounted on my
>belly.
>
>Ross
>RV6A N9PT
>
>
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| Subject: | Antenna/radio reception |
--> RV-List message posted by: "RV6 Flyer" <rv6_flyer@hotmail.com>
Scott:
Yes with a good antenna installation. Paul Rosales and I have talked to
each other more than 100 nautical miles apart.
Gary A. Sobek
"My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell,
1,424 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA
http://SoCAL_WVAF.rvproject.com
----Original Message Follows----
From: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
Subject: RV-List: Antenna/radio reception
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski
<bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
Last weekend I heard a radio call from an airport 100 miles away. Is it
normal to have this kind of reception. I never had this happen with rental
planes.
Scott Bilinski
Eng dept 305
Phone (858) 657-2536
Pager (858) 502-5190
do not archive
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| Subject: | Dec 17th 2003 100 Years / What did you do today to celebrate? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com>
It's easy to forget just how compressed the history of aviation is. For
maybe twenty or thirty years, John Glen and at least one of the Wright
brothers were both alive. I remember seeing a photo of Charles Lindberg
sitting in the cockpit of a 747. My grandparents came to the Pacific
Northwest in a covered wagon from Oklahoma and in their later years would
fly to California for the winter in a 707.
Time flies when you are having fun!
Terry
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Kosta Lewis
Subject: RE: RV-List: Dec 17th 2003 100 Years / What did you do today to
celebrate?
--> RV-List message posted by: "Kosta Lewis" <mikel@dimensional.com>
>While I may have preferred to be flying in one of the local air parades
>going on that day, it was still cool to be on the ultimate
accomplishment >(a 747) of what Orville and Wilbur started!
And to think the wing span of a 747 is longer than the Wright brother's
first flight!! 120 feet vs 211 feet 5 inches of 747 wing span.
Do not archive
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| Subject: | RV-7A kit for sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: windsaloft@rmisp.com
This is one of those "Holy Toledo" posts ----
I will be leaving Lander, Wyoming for just south of Jacksonville, FL on
January 7 to start a new job on Jan.12
I either have to sell my RV-7A project lickity split, or figure out how to
transport it and store it for about 6 months..........
I have an empennage kit, completed except for fiberglass. It has the
older rudder, but I have the new rudder kit from vans still in the box.
I have a wing kit, 1st wing started, in the midst of sealing tanks -- 2d
wing untouched. Flaps and ailerons about 85% done.
I have a QB fuselage kit that I have opened and inventoried but not done
anything to.
When I add up the invoices, it exceeds $19,000 in parts. If you came to
Lander, WY and used a U Haul or truck to drive away with it, I'd help you
load it and let it all go for $15,000. I can guarantee (in writing) that
all the parts are there. Need to hear from you before Jan. 3
No tools to be sold -- I hope to start anew someday...........and I also
have a flying RV-6A that I have to maintain!
Terri Watson
N1977D flying
N8862T reserved
windsaloft@rmisp.com
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Randy Lervold" <randy@rv-8.com>
Dave,
If maximum performance is what you're after various bits of data I've seen
would indicate the 74" is the choice. It will have a higher tip speed at a
given rpm however and will therefore be a little bit noisier. Of course the
1" greater radius puts you that much closer to gravel etc. also. Because you
have a nosewheel, and because any performance improvement will be very
small, I'd use the 72" with any -A model.
FWIW,
Randy Lervold
www.rv-8.com
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dave Sundberg" <dfsund@aol.com>
>
> There has been some great prop. comparison testing done recently, but
> unfortunately it did not include the new "Blended Airfoil" c.s.
> Hartzell. Van's is now offering this prop. in both 72" and 74" models
> for the 7A. Any thoughts as to what the performance difference would be
> between the two on an O-360? TIA for the info and I hope you all have a
> great and safe holiday.
>
> Dave
> 7A Wiring
>
>
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| Subject: | Antenna/radio reception |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Kosta Lewis" <mikel@dimensional.com>
>Last weekend I heard a radio call from an airport 100 miles away. Is it
>normal to have this kind of reception. I never had this happen with
rental
>planes.
I was headed to OSH one year and was on 123.00 for the next field I had
to listen to, which is also home frequency. I was 86nm out and heard
someone announce left downwind for 15. I thought what the hell and
called back that pattern for 15 was right pattern. "Oh, OK. Right
pattern? OK." He called back. I have a belly mounted fiberglass (Dorne &
Margolin) antennae and ICOM A200 radio. FBO radio man a while back said
he always knows it's me because the radio broadcast is so loud. Gotta
love it.
Michael
RV-4 N232 Suzie Q
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| Subject: | Dec 17th 2003 100 Years / What did you do today to celebrate? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Kosta Lewis" <mikel@dimensional.com>
>Away I flew down Mark Twain's Mississippi past LaCrosse, WI to Prairie
du >Chien. The walls of the FBO are covered with photos of visiting
aircraft >(Michael - Susie-Q was there!) and I had a nice time visiting
with the >locals and reflecting on the last 100 years of flight. Then
off toward home >to start the SECOND 100 years...
You bet. Thanks for finding her on the wall!! PDC is a great place to
stop on the way to OSH. Been dropping in every year for the past 15
years because it is such a great place. The guys that come out to gas
you up remember you from year to year, call you by name and ask you
things they remember from your last visit. And I only stop there twice a
year; once going to OSH, once coming back, weather permitting. If I miss
a stop, they remember that, too. ("Where were you last year? We had some
pretty low-lying fog they day we thought you'd drop by......") Suzie Q
is up there on the well-plastered walls and the trusty ol' J-3 is up
there too. Flying like it used to be. Don't find places like that much
any more.
Michael
RV-4 N232 Suzie Q
Do not archive unless someone wants to book mark that as a cool place to
go...
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--> RV-List message posted by: Leesafur@aol.com
In a message dated 12/19/2003 1:22:06 PM Central Standard Time,
Fiveonepw@aol.com writes:
Something y'all might want to consider is using hinges just like the cowling
sides- I recently did sheared tips this way and am very pleased with the
results- no ugly screws and they can be on/off in minutes- make that less
than a
minute when I get all the epoxy cleaned out of the holes and don't need to
grab
the drill...
Hay that's a good idea but how do you fasten the hinge pin?
Lee
Anoka MN
RV-3 wing
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| Subject: | Re: Dec 17th 2003 100 Years / What did you do today tocelebrate? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Doug Gray <dgra1233@bigpond.net.au>
>What did you do today to celebrate 100 years of powered flight?
I had nothing planned, off to work as usual, not a peep about the
special day on national radio or in the one Sydney daily newspaper I saw.
The journalists either slept through the event or just found it a little
ho hum to bother with.
3pm... tap tap tap on the outside office window, security door blocks
marketing staff access, she's waving some form of ticket.
"GD can't make it, someone suggested you might like to go..6:45 for 7pm
start tonight ... do you want the ticket?"
The ticket - for the Royal Aeronautical Society - Sydney branch -
Centenary of Flight Dinner - venue the Powerhouse Museum - Turbine
Gallery (lots of aircraft hanging on wires from the ceiling).
Manner from Heaven, how could I not go.....
This was the big end of town event - Qantas, Virgin, Boeing,
Rolls-Royce, Emirates and a number of the minors who have operated
locally, CEOs and chairmen of these significant organisations or their
representatives in Australia.
Guest speakers were two aviation journalists (Jeff Watson and Tom
Ballantyne) plus Max Hazelton, founder of a significant local
(Australian that is) airline.
I had first met Max Hazelton, at the time was chairman and CEO of
Hazelton Airlines, he was in the left hand seat flying single pilot RPT
flight from Cudal to Sydney Airport (NSW). I had talked my way into the
RH seat. The flight was a full on IFR approach to very close to the
minimums - Max Hazelton language of choice was 'pilotage'.
The journalists spoke well and presented a video made to commemorate the
event and presented news of another Wright Flyer replica built in South
Australia, due of course to be flown that day. Pioneer Aussie Aviators
were either present or spoken about. Lawrence Hargraves, in particular
since he was acknowledged by the Wright bros to have contributed to
their effort to attain powered flight. (No mention of Jon Johanson tho...)
I had a wow of a time with all these aviation enthusiasts and even
though they were from the other end of town, not the sport aircraft
people I normally associate with, the excitement and appreciation of
sharing the celebration together in the environment was a great privilege.
Various item of memorabilia were auctioned off raising an inordinate
amount of money in support of the Royal Flying Doctor Service. ....
$4500 for an RR Olympus turbine blade...can you believe it?
To top it all off I won one of the door prizes, a glider flight. I
think I'll enjoy that...
The 17th turned out to be a most memorable day for me, a fitting way to
celebrate the centenary of powered flight.
Doug Gray
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| Subject: | RV-List Prop Bolts |
--> RV-List message posted by: smoothweasel@juno.com
Hey Girls(or Guys),
I was in the process of installing my prop tonight and it seems that the
set of studs that i have here with the motor are about 1/8" to long. They
protrude through the prop flange and hit the hub housing before the
flange tightens on the flywheel assembly. So guess I need shorter studs
to solve the problem. I checked Aircraft Spruce and didn't see any studs
listed. Is there some sort of spec. for this stud (i.e. 125000 or 160000
psi ) that I can use to locate something locally or do I need to contact
Hartsel? Oh by the way it's a 0-320 with a Hartsel C/S.
Weasel Graber
-4 wanting to start engine!!!
Brooksville MS
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| Subject: | Baffle Measurements.... |
--> RV-List message posted by: RV6AOKC@aol.com
Howdy again.....time for the 11pm, Friday night, I can't do anymore work in
the garage question....Im finishing up the baffling and about to install the
air seal along the top....as good as the instructions are (not!!!)...I cant find
a measurement of how far I need to overlap the alum. and how much material
has to hang over the edge (that forms the seal). Also what you may have used
for rivet spacing....Vans has a nice set of drawings...but no
measurements....let me know what ya'll think...thanks....
Kurt in OKC...
Only a Few things left....but taking forever....
Do Not Archive...
PS...Happy Holidays......
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| Subject: | Re: Baffle Measurements.... |
--> RV-List message posted by: N223RV@aol.com
I believe if you look at the directions, the airseal is 1.5" above and below
the aluminum (3" wide strips). As far as rivet spacing, I think I used about
1.5" between rivets, but varied it to ensure it all laid down flat. I used a
posterboard and laid it up next to the baffles and traced around the top where
the airseal rivets. I then offset the lines up and down by 1.5" each and cut
them out for templates. I also used soft aluminum rivets and aluminum
washers instead of the pull rivets, I thought it gave a more professional look
and I
had the supplies handy. Be sure to make all the templates of the seals and
lay them out on the airseal first, so you know you will have enough material to
finish the job. On my RV-4 I had very little to spare even after meticulously
laying out the patterns.
Don't forget to at least cleco in the fiberglass inlet ducts in the upper
cowl and cut the baffles down for clearance in this area before installing the
airseal. I learned this trick from experience.....
Hope this helps!
-Mike Kraus
N223RV Flying RV-4
N213RV building RV-10
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<RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com>
| Subject: | Cork or not to Cork? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Darwin N. Barrie" <ktlkrn@cox.net>
Thanks to everyone that provided their experiences. I got about a 50-50 response
on corking vs. not corking. The biggest issue seemed to be that cork would be
easier to open up again should the need arise. I decided to use the cork and
the task is done. I used 8x32 stainless socket head screws. They worked great.
Wings installed today.
On a final note, I don't care if I ever see Proseal again in this life time!!!!!!!
Anyone know how long this stuff will be on my hands?
Darwin N. Barrie
Chandler AZ
Crossflow Subaru
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| Subject: | For Sale - RV-6 Almost done with a panel to die for |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" <Tim@bryantechnology.com>
Listers,
My RV-6 is for sale. It is almost done.
Sheet metal work is pretty much done, Canopy is pretty much done except for
fiberglass.
Cowling is cut and fitted but hinges not on permanent, Engine is installed,
baffles are fitted and installed but no chaffe rubber yet, panel installed
complete, wiring done, wings test fitted.
0-360A1A Lycoming from Aerosport, New Constant Speed prop from Vans
I have everything to finish this airplane except the paint.
Serious buyers contact me off list for further details.
Tim Bryan
tim@bryantechnology.com
Redmond, Oregon
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| Subject: | Re: Note from Dynon on OAT |
--> RV-List message posted by: kempthornes <kempthornes@earthlink.net>
At 10:23 AM 12/19/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)"
><mstewart@iss.net>
>
>One of my upsets with the Dynon was the lack of availability or OAT, and
>hence, true airspeed. A very very valuable tool when flying above
>sealevel.
Hi Mike,
I have done nothing since flight training days more than estimate TAS using
the 2% per 1000 feet thing. I didn't even use that when I was flying below
sea level and I suffered no pain! Especially with GPS, is seems to me of
little value.
I tried to find how/why to use TAS in several flying books to no
avail. Please say what value you see in knowing the TAS.
I'm rebuilding my panel - tying up loose wiring etc!! Probably Dynon and Trio.
K. H. (Hal) Kempthorne
RV6-a N7HK - Three trips to OSH now.
PRB (El Paso de Robles, CA)
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