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1. 05:51 AM - Looking for Mark Bednarz (Charlie Kuss)
2. 06:01 AM - Terry Dilley (Erdmann's)
3. 06:07 AM - Re: Vans shipping (Scott Bilinski)
4. 07:00 AM - Re: Re: The Van's Aircraft Company motto (Vic Jacko)
5. 07:25 AM - Re: Stratomaster MAG-1 compass (DWENSING@aol.com)
6. 07:45 AM - INS 422 Nav (Wayne Pedersen)
7. 08:27 AM - Gluing Drilled Canopy? (Ken Brooks)
8. 09:56 AM - Re: Related to "ELT antenna mounting Sugg. Position" (HCRV6@aol.com)
9. 10:17 AM - Re: Grand Rapids EIS 4000 MAP sensor (Bob)
10. 10:30 AM - Re: Reno (Bill VonDane)
11. 10:50 AM - Re: Grand Rapids EIS 4000 MAP sensor (Alex Peterson)
12. 12:48 PM - pc680 charging (lucky macy)
13. 02:42 PM - Re: pc680 charging (Bill Dube)
14. 02:54 PM - Lyco S.I. 1435 (Jerry2DT@aol.com)
15. 02:55 PM - Remote preheater activation (Terry Watson)
16. 02:57 PM - Van's Aircraft (Jim Duckett)
17. 03:02 PM - Re: Lyco S.I. 1435 (WFACT01@aol.com)
18. 03:18 PM - RV-4 Cowling Oil Door (Jerry Isler)
19. 04:34 PM - Re: Lyco S.I. 1435 (Jim Daniels)
20. 04:39 PM - Re: The Van's Aircraft Company motto (DANBERGERONHAM@aol.com)
21. 05:05 PM - Re: Remote preheater activation (Alex Peterson)
22. 05:37 PM - Re: Weather site (Jim Jewell)
23. 06:30 PM - [Fw: M.Aero: MII-bucking rivets made easy] (Charlie & Tupper England)
24. 07:06 PM - which kit to buy????? (ryan gottlieb)
25. 07:23 PM - Re: RV-4 Cowling Oil Door (Pat Hatch)
26. 07:31 PM - Re: Weather site (Jim Oke)
27. 07:31 PM - Re: [Fw: M.Aero: MII-bucking rivets made easy] (Mike Nellis)
28. 07:58 PM - Re: Van's Aircraft (David Taylor)
29. 08:59 PM - Re: which kit to buy????? (WPAerial@aol.com)
30. 09:04 PM - Re: Re: Prop indexing (j1j2h3@juno.com)
31. 09:11 PM - aircraft condition inspection? (WPAerial@aol.com)
32. 09:13 PM - Re: Van's Aircraft (Jerry Springer)
33. 09:18 PM - Re: Lyco S.I. 1435 (Jerry2DT@aol.com)
34. 09:29 PM - Re: aircraft condition inspection? (Bruce Gray)
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| Subject: | Looking for Mark Bednarz |
--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie Kuss <chaskuss@bellsouth.net>
Does anyone on list know RV builder Mark Bednarz of Grapeland, Texas? If so, please
let me know how to contact him off list.
Charlie Kuss
RV-8A instrument panel
Boca Raton, Fl.
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Erdmann's" <erdmannb@execpc.com>
I'm having trouble returning a message to Terry Dilley. An RV7A builder whom I
hope reads this list. Thanks, Abby Flightline Interiors
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| Subject: | Re: Vans shipping |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
Vans stated on there web page that they are way behind due to inventory and
the weather. Way behind to the tune of 800 orders.
At 06:37 PM 1/13/04 -0800, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
>
>Don't know where yo live Bert but if you have paid any attention to the
>weather lately in Oregon
>you would know that the Portland area came to pretty much a stand still
>last week weather wise.
>We had snow then freezing rain on top of that and it was not a pretty
>sight. The Portland airport was
>closed for about three day no flights in or out. I know that UPS did not
>deliver some packages I was expecting.
>I can tell you from experience that Van's service beats ACS all to
>pieces in my opinions.
>
>Jerry
>do not archive
>
>bert murillo wrote:
>
>>--> RV-List message posted by: " bert murillo" <bert6@mybluelight.com>
>>
>> Hi:
>>
>>
>> I have order a simple order from Van's, about
>> weeks ago, and nothing as of today.
>>
>> Has any one else have had same problem recently..
>>
>> I had to order from them, as the part is only
>>made by Van's I think...
>>
>>
>> I never understand why it takes them so long
>>to shipp something..
>>
>> I know Spruce is in California, and I never find
>>them, taken weeks to send something.....
>>
>> Maybe Oregon, has slower mail..
>>
>>
>> Bert
>>
>>
>>Do Not Archive
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>>
>>
>>
>
>
Scott Bilinski
Eng dept 305
Phone (858) 657-2536
Pager (858) 502-5190
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: RE: The Van's Aircraft Company motto |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Vic Jacko" <vicwj@earthlink.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: <Jerry2DT@aol.com>
Subject: RV-List: RE: The Van's Aircraft Company motto
> --> RV-List message posted by: Jerry2DT@aol.com
>
> Hi Blake...
>
> My partner and I have an RV6a hangared 1/4 mi. from Van's and I'm building
> one also, so have dealt with Van's for 3 years now, and I see them
frequently.
> Without a doubt, one of the classiest organizations ever. Sure, sometimes
they
> look a little overloaded and frazzled, but that's because they are usually
> busting their buns helping us builders out in one way or another. Once in
a blue
> moon you'll catch someone with a bit of "attitude", but it is rare.
Contrary
> to what you might think, they are def not a large, impersonal company. I
think
> they have maybe 50 employees total. It's amazing they produce what they do
> with that few people.
>
> Congratulations on your decision to build one of the best aircraft in the
> world, and do not worry, Van's will take great care of you, just might
require a
> bit of patience once in awhile. They are human....I think. :)
>
> Jerry Cochran
>
> <<Folks, I've ordered $5 items from the internet and was flooded with
email
> information on amount charged, shipping dates, tracking numbers, and long
> thoughtful comments thanking me for my FIVE DOLLAR business. Now I spend
> $1800 and potentially another $15k and I can't even find out when/if my
> shippment is going out. Is this the Van's Aircraft way of doing business?
> Please help a very patient man to understand what's happening at a
> previously respected company. I had my heart set on a RV for years, I was
> very excited to place my first order and this is a disheartening way to
> start the long building process.
>
> Fellow Aviator and Future RVer,
>
> Blake Avant
> Navarre, FL>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Stratomaster MAG-1 compass |
--> RV-List message posted by: DWENSING@aol.com
Found nothing on this in the archives so......
Looking for reference info on use of the Statomaster MAG-1 magnetometer
compass in an RV. How will does it work? Where did you place the external sensor?
particularly in an RV6A with slider canopy? Does the 8 degree tilt on the panel
present a problem for panel mounting? Any other comments about this unit?
Dale Ensing
RV6A finishing forever
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Wayne Pedersen" <wayne@pedersentransport.com>
Planning and acquiring the gizmos for my panel now. Basic VFR Dynon, Garmin
196 & IK2000. I have been leaning to get a Val INS422 Nav VOR, Glide slope
etc. and wondering what experiences there may be out there to help me decide
ya or nay. I do not plan to get my IFR ticket but would take enough IFR
training to be comfertable with getting out of unexpected soup.
Thanks
Wayne
RV7a
S.Alberta
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| Subject: | Gluing Drilled Canopy? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ken Brooks" <kenbrooks@charter.net>
Dear -listers,
I've just finished reading the article in the new SA about gluing on
one's canopy and have a question for y'all. I've already drilled the
sliding portion of the plexi to the canopy frame, but only with the #40
drill bit.
Am I committed to riveting the canopy, or could I glue it on and just use
the clecoes as "clamps" while the glue cures and then remove them?
Obviously, all the holes would have to be stress-relieved (smoothed) well,
but if the #40 holes in the plexi wouldn't give me problems later, I'd
really like to try the glue method for all the positive reasons spelled out
in the SA article. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance.
Ken Brooks
Roscoe, IL
Like Vince H., procrastinating on the canopy.
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| Subject: | Re: Related to "ELT antenna mounting Sugg. Position" |
--> RV-List message posted by: HCRV6@aol.com
Thanks Mark.
Do not archive
Harry Crosby
Pleasanton, California
RV-6, moving to hangar soon
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| Subject: | Re: Grand Rapids EIS 4000 MAP sensor |
--> RV-List message posted by: Bob <panamared2@brier.net>
Mine is on the cockpit side of the firewall. No problems with cockpit
engine fires yet. I do have a Halon fire extingusher!
Bob
RV6 NightFighter
At 11:27 PM 1/12/04, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Rick Fogerson" <rickf@cableone.net>
>
>Grand Rapids recommends placing the MAP sensor in the cockpit because it
>uses a plastic case. I'm not going to because I've gone to a lot of
>effort and some $'s to protect the cockpit from engine fires. Placing the
>sensor in the cockpit means you would have to bring a manifold pressure
>hose through the firewall. Has anyone else had any good or bad experience
>with this sensor in the engine compartment.
>thanks,
>Rick Fogerson
>Boise, ID
>RV3 wiring
>
>
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rv8list@yahoogroups.com, vansairforce <vansairforce@yahoogroups.com>
--> RV-List message posted by: Bill VonDane <bill@vondane.com>
I have added a page on my web site for Reno info...
http://www.vondane.com/reno2004/index.htm
-Bill VonDane
EAA Tech Counselor
RV-8A ~ N8WV ~ Colorado Springs
www.vondane.com
www.creativair.com
www.epanelbuilder.com
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| Subject: | Grand Rapids EIS 4000 MAP sensor |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@usjet.net>
>
> Mine is on the cockpit side of the firewall. No problems
> with cockpit
> engine fires yet. I do have a Halon fire extingusher!
>
Bob, we would like to see the pictures of how you mounted your engine in
the cockpit!
:
)
Alex Peterson
Maple Grove, MN
RV6-A N66AP 427 hours
www.usfamily.net/web/alexpeterson
do not archive
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--> RV-List message posted by: "lucky macy" <luckymacy@hotmail.com>
I didn't see any mention of this in the recent thread on the PC680 where
folks were getting all worked up over charging, etc.
I got my battery today and I also have a battery tender jr charger for it
but I interestingly read that under the Winter Storage instructions it says
"does not lose its charged enery during cold storage temperatures, so there
is no need to trickle or float charge during winter months." Further is
states can be stored for 2 years or more and it can't freeze down to -40c.
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: pc680 charging |
--> RV-List message posted by: Bill Dube <bdube@al.noaa.gov>
At 03:47 PM 1/14/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "lucky macy" <luckymacy@hotmail.com>
>
>I didn't see any mention of this in the recent thread on the PC680 where
>folks were getting all worked up over charging, etc.
>
>I got my battery today and I also have a battery tender jr charger for it
>but I interestingly read that under the Winter Storage instructions it says
>"does not lose its charged enery during cold storage temperatures, so there
>is no need to trickle or float charge during winter months." Further is
>states can be stored for 2 years or more and it can't freeze down to -40c.
Charge it before you store it. It may have been on the shelf for
many months.
AGM batteries typically lose about 2% of their charge each month.
In hot weather, this can be much greater, and in very cold weather, the
loss can be very tiny indeed. At 2% pre month, the battery will be down to
75% capacity in a year (if it started out 100% full.)
As the battery ages, its self discharge rate increases. An older
battery will go flat more quickly than a new battery.
Typically, airplane alternator charging systems are not
sophisticated enough to fully charge the battery. A 75% state of charge
would not be that unusual. Thus, after a year, the battery would be down to
50%.
If, however, you have the battery connected to an airplane or a
car, there are small loads that can draw it down, even when the airplane is
"off". Things like the clock and some electronics draw a few milliamps to
keep the memory alive. A 20 mA load will draw a 100% charged 16 amp-hr
PC-680 battery completely flat in a month.
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--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry2DT@aol.com
Listers...
Lyco Service Instruction #1435 deals with conversion of hollow crank engines
to fixed pitch and visa-versa. It appears the only way to get this important
doc from Lyco is to pay $199 for a CD with all the S.I.'s for 4 cyl on it. I
understand it also comes with new engines. Just wondering if anyone out there
has a copy they could share. Plenty of info out there on the subject, but I'd
just like to get my hands on the "official" document. Have to admit it's a bit
disappointing that Lycoming does not offer safety-related subjects such as this
either free or with a minimal charge. JM.02...
Jerry Cochran
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| Subject: | Remote preheater activation |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com>
Some time ago there was a discussion about a way to remotely turn on a
pre-heater. Someone now sells a device that works with a cell phone or a
pager to do just that. If interested, have a look at it at
http://goflying.cc/. There is a short article about it in GA (General
Aviation) magazine that came today. At $369, it's not cheap but it looks
like it would work.
Terry
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--> RV-List message posted by: Jim Duckett <perfeng@3rivers.net>
Well Blake,
I guess I will chime in my .02 cents too.
First, as you have realized those of us that refer to ourselves as
RVer's really are a passionate group of builders. Like most, my -7A is
the not the first ship that I have build that was designed by Van's, and
probably won't be the last. As an RVer I am very defensive when it comes
to someone questioning the integrity of the supplier of my passion.
As others have said, and I will echo, Van's Aircraft Company supplys a
remarkably well designed and builder friendly product and backs it with
excellent customer support. Like many others I have been spoiled because
I live within a days drive (4.5 hours flight time in an RV) from the
facilities in Aurora. When you compare ACS with van's IMHO you are
trying to compare Home Depot to your neighborhood hardware store.
In a lot of respects it's the same. At Home Depot you get what they got
without any real personalized service but hey, they got lots of stuff
and lots of folks working there that really don't have a clue about the
product in question or it's usage. Van's it like the neighborhood
store. Personalized and often specialized to the needs of it's
customers. If they don't have it, they will try and get it for you as
well as answer any questions you might have about the product or what
may be better to perform the task you have at hand.
In short, Van's has a very small staff of dedicated people ( compared to
the amount of product they turn out) and generally they do a bang up job
meeting the needs of it's customers ( especially when those of us who
are somewhat close by want to see whats new in the Skunk Works every
time we get out to Mecca.) In operational terms it's a small business.
If Van's were to gear and tool up like some others have in the past your
next RV will be six figures not the 20 K you'll pay now.
This isn't to flame you or to make you disheartened. As a builder you
will discover that although it may be frustrating at times, these other
builders as well as Van's staff are the greatest people you will ever meet.
There are other RVer's in you area. Once they know of you and your ship
you may have more advise and help than you really need.
Take a deep breath, and relax while you can. When you get your tail
feathers it will be nothing but late nights of reading plans and
riveting alcad and wishing you could win the lottery because that job
you have is getting in the way of building your bird.
Welcome to the world that is building and flying your own craft.
Especially the joy of it being an RV!
Jim D. RV-7A N708JD
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| Subject: | Re: Lyco S.I. 1435 |
--> RV-List message posted by: WFACT01@aol.com
Jerry-send me a fax#-TOM---DO NOT ARCHIVE
Tom Whelan
Whelan Farms Airport
President EAA Chapter 1097
wfact01@aol.com
249 Hard Hill Road North
PO Box 426
Bethlehem, CT 06751
Tel: 203-266-5300
Fax: 202-266-5140
EAA Technical/Flight Advisor
RV-8 540 LYC (Engine Runs, Taxi-Tests)
S-51 Mustang Turbine (Under Construction)
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| Subject: | RV-4 Cowling Oil Door |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jerry Isler" <jlisler@alltel.net>
What are the diamentions of the oil door for an RV-4 cowling? I have the old
polyester cowl and the directions say the door layout is molded into the
cowl. If it was, I have sanded it off. If anyone can tell me have far
forward of the firewall it starts would be most helpful also.
Jerry Isler
RV-4 1070
Donalsonville, GA
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| Subject: | Re: Lyco S.I. 1435 |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jim Daniels <jwdanie@comcast.net>
On Jan 14, 2004, at 3:54 PM, Jerry2DT@aol.com wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Jerry2DT@aol.com
>
> Listers...
>
> Lyco Service Instruction #1435 deals with conversion of hollow crank
> engines
> to fixed pitch and visa-versa. It appears the only way to get this
> important
> doc from Lyco is to pay $199 for a CD with all the S.I.'s for 4 cyl on
> it. I
> understand it also comes with new engines. Just wondering if anyone
> out there
> has a copy they could share.
Just whip open your finish kit instructions. It is right there just
after the engine identification pages (pages 11-20 to 11-22). At least
my '8 finish kit instructions had this.
Jim Daniels
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| Subject: | Re: The Van's Aircraft Company motto |
--> RV-List message posted by: DANBERGERONHAM@aol.com
Blake:
I'm building an RV-7A (slow build) and have been dealing w/ Vans for a year.
I've finished the empennage and am well along on the wings. My dealings w/
Vans have been entirely positive. When I inventoried my wing kit back in Sept,
I discovered that a wing tip had been damaged in shipment. Vans was very
helpful in getting the shipper to make good on it. Since then I've probably
placed a half dozen orders w/ Vans for catalogue items, and have called maybe four
times for builders' advice. I've had nothing but great service. All
catalogue items were delivered in good order and all builders questions and concerns
deal with forthwith. Whenever I've dealt w/ anyone at Vans it has been obvious
that they're professional, they know what they're doing and they're customer
oriented. In short, they've been a great company to deal with.
Your may be expecting a bit too much from them. Back off a bit, relax, and
let the system do its thing. If every builder were to get minute by minute
reports on the status of orders, Vans wouldn't be able to do much of anything
else.
Good luck with your project. Most of all, enjoy it! It's a beautiful
process and, please believe me, you're dealing w/ a great company.
Dan Bergeron
Chicopee, MA
RV-7A
Building fuel tanks
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| Subject: | Remote preheater activation |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@usjet.net>
> Some time ago there was a discussion about a way to remotely
> turn on a pre-heater. Someone now sells a device that works
> with a cell phone or a pager to do just that. If interested,
> have a look at it at http://goflying.cc/. There is a short
> article about it in GA (General
> Aviation) magazine that came today. At $369, it's not cheap
> but it looks like it would work.
>
I discussed this last year, but it is worth repeating. I have an oil
sump heater as well as the cylinder bands, all from Reiff. I believe it
totals around 500 watts. I keep my plane in an unheated hangar in MN,
and it is about 25 minutes from home. My solution is to keep it plugged
in all the time; however, it is thermostatically controlled. I simply
put a line break thermostat on the end of an extension cord, such that
the thermostat goes right in the oil door. I have a complete cowl
insulating cover, and plug the inlets and exit areas with chunks of foam
rubber. I set the thermostat at 60 degrees F. I would guess that the
duty cycle is quite low, perhaps 25%. So, this equals about 3 kw-hr per
day, or about a quarter per day. Monthly grand total is something like
8 or 10 bucks. The whole winter probably doesn't cost $50, AND the best
part is I can go out and fly whenever I want.
When I had a phone dial up gizmo, I was never confident that I got it
activated, and I often forgot the night before.
Alex Peterson
Maple Grove, MN
RV6-A N66AP 427 hours
www.usfamily.net/web/alexpeterson
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| Subject: | Re: Weather site |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net>
Alex,
I have heard it said of the the weather in the area that Austin refers to;
They have 10 months of winter and 2 months of tough sledding.
Jim in Kelowna, The west is best!
DO NOT ARCHIVE
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@usjet.net>
Subject: RE: RV-List: Weather site
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@usjet.net>
>
>
> I am basically trying to determine
> > what month may look promising weather-wise to begin the
> > flight. Alex Peterson may know this area and also know if the
> > wolves are friendly.....
>
> Austin, my friend, I know nothing about the wolves north of the border.
> However, I do know that the weather is what it is when you get there :
> )
> In Minnesota, we have winter for about 8 months followed by 4 months of
> road construction. Can't speak for Canada, but Jim Oke in Winnipeg
> probably thinks we Minnesotans have wimpy winters.
>
> Alex Peterson
> Maple Grove, MN
> RV6-A N66AP 427 hours
> www.usfamily.net/web/alexpeterson
>
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | [Fwd: M.Aero: MII-bucking rivets made easy] |
--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie & Tupper England <cengland@netdoor.com>
Shamelessly stolen from the Mustang I/II list.
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: M.Aero: MII-bucking rivets made easy
From: marc tremblay <sxystretch@hotmail.com>
hey group,
at the end of last year, i showed my mustang project to a future builder, he
had a few questions, hes a riveter for bombardier, and he gave me this neat
little trick to make bucking rivets an almost foolproof process. most at
bomdardier now use this same method, after pushing rivet thought work, place
a 3/16 thick rubber grommet over the rivet (side to be bucked) then place
bucking bar, grommet will help keep the bucking bar square, and will also
help keep work tightly together. grommet only good for a few rivets, but
there dirt cheap, $3 to $4 per 100 available everywhere.
works great
marc
MII-2060 (plans built)
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| Subject: | which kit to buy????? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "ryan gottlieb" <gottliebmk@msn.com>
based on what you all have seen in the past, do you think that the RV 10 kit prices
will go down over the next couple of years? I still have not made up my mind,
but have plenty of time to decide since I don't yet have the space or time
to build. I am 90% sure that the four seatsof the rv10 are thewayI wantto go
( at least my wife prefers the four seats :), but I love the performance of the
rocket. Do you think any modifications will be made to the rv10 to improve
the performance?
Just for the fun of it, What do you think a completed RV 10 with IFR panel, and
low time engine would sell for? and what are the completed rockets going for?
Thanks for the help,
Ryan G.
KTDF
Durham ,NC
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| Subject: | Re: RV-4 Cowling Oil Door |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Pat Hatch" <pat_hatch@msn.com>
Jerry,
The original RV-4 oil door was way too big. It extended into the cheek area
making it hard to fit and fasten properly. It bulged badly in flight due to
the air pressure inside the cowl. Most people just made the door as small
as possible, just enough to get your hand in, kind of U-shaped with the
hinge on the top of the U. Just mark the spot from the inside when you have
the top cowl on and the bottom cowl off. If you do it this way, the door
will not extend into the cheek area making it a much simpler installation.
Good luck.
Pat Hatch
RV-4
RV-6
RV-7 QB (Building)
Vero Beach, FL
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Isler" <jlisler@alltel.net>
Subject: RV-List: RV-4 Cowling Oil Door
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Jerry Isler" <jlisler@alltel.net>
>
> What are the diamentions of the oil door for an RV-4 cowling? I have the
old
> polyester cowl and the directions say the door layout is molded into the
> cowl. If it was, I have sanded it off. If anyone can tell me have far
> forward of the firewall it starts would be most helpful also.
>
>
> Jerry Isler
> RV-4 1070
> Donalsonville, GA
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Weather site |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jim Oke <wjoke@shaw.ca>
Gee, Alex, I wouldn't say that. We send you some excellent snow and cold NW
winds during those eight months of winter. Lots of good hockey players out
of MN too.
Cheers, Jim
Tonight's weather as I write this:
METAR CYWG 150300Z 18009KT 15SM OVC044 M17/M21 A3013 RMK SC8 SLP231
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@usjet.net>
Subject: RE: RV-List: Weather site
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@usjet.net>
>
>
> I am basically trying to determine
> > what month may look promising weather-wise to begin the
> > flight. Alex Peterson may know this area and also know if the
> > wolves are friendly.....
>
> Austin, my friend, I know nothing about the wolves north of the border.
> However, I do know that the weather is what it is when you get there :
> )
> In Minnesota, we have winter for about 8 months followed by 4 months of
> road construction. Can't speak for Canada, but Jim Oke in Winnipeg
> probably thinks we Minnesotans have wimpy winters.
>
> Alex Peterson
> Maple Grove, MN
> RV6-A N66AP 427 hours
> www.usfamily.net/web/alexpeterson
>
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | [Fwd: M.Aero: MII-bucking rivets made easy] |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Nellis" <mike@bmnellis.com>
I've been using this method from the get go. I found it difficult to
find the right size gromet so I came up with this idea. I got a hold of
different size rubber tubing and, using sissors, cut the tubing to the
length that works the best. It certainly works well, especially in
those areas where the two pieces don't quite want to lay perfectly flat.
Mike Nellis
RV-6 Skinning Fuselage N699BM
1947 Stinson 108-2 NC9666K
http://bmnellis.com
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*** [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
*** Charlie & Tupper England
*** Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 8:30 PM
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*** Subject: RV-List: [Fwd: M.Aero: MII-bucking rivets made easy]
***
***
*** --> RV-List message posted by: Charlie & Tupper England
*** --> <cengland@netdoor.com>
***
*** Shamelessly stolen from the Mustang I/II list.
***
*** -------- Original Message --------
*** Subject: M.Aero: MII-bucking rivets made easy
*** Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 11:34:17 -0500
*** From: marc tremblay <sxystretch@hotmail.com>
*** To: mustangaero@yahoogroups.com
***
***
*** hey group,
***
*** at the end of last year, i showed my mustang project to a
*** future builder, he
*** had a few questions, hes a riveter for bombardier, and he
*** gave me this neat
*** little trick to make bucking rivets an almost foolproof
*** process. most at
*** bomdardier now use this same method, after pushing rivet
*** thought work, place
*** a 3/16 thick rubber grommet over the rivet (side to be
*** bucked) then place
*** bucking bar, grommet will help keep the bucking bar square,
*** and will also
*** help keep work tightly together. grommet only good for a
*** few rivets, but
*** there dirt cheap, $3 to $4 per 100 available everywhere.
***
*** works great
***
*** marc
*** MII-2060 (plans built)
***
***
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| Subject: | Re: Van's Aircraft |
--> RV-List message posted by: "David Taylor" <rv7@cox.net>
First off I'd have to say I've been pleased by most of Van's staff. I get
most of the information I need in a very timely manner. But I do have to say
I'm tired of hearing "It's not rocket science". I am a new builder and I am
learning so I don't think I know everything. That being said, probably 80%
of the time I get fantastic support from Van's staff without anyone talking
down to me. But every once in a while I'll get some attitude. Overall I'd
rate Van's extremely high in the support section and I've never had a real
problem when I've ordered anything. Typically when I order anything I'll
call the next day to give FedEx or whoever time to pick up the item before I
call for a tracking number. Since I am impatient I always call for a
tracking number the following day and have yet to been given a hassle. I
persoanlly think Van's is a top notch company and if I didn't I'd go fly
Jeff Crab's RV-6A and that would change my mind. As always your mileage may
vary (YMMV). Do not archive.
-David Taylor
RV-6A Wings
Warner Robins, GA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Duckett" <perfeng@3rivers.net>
Subject: RV-List: Van's Aircraft
> --> RV-List message posted by: Jim Duckett <perfeng@3rivers.net>
>
> Well Blake,
> I guess I will chime in my .02 cents too.
> First, as you have realized those of us that refer to ourselves as
> RVer's really are a passionate group of builders. Like most, my -7A is
> the not the first ship that I have build that was designed by Van's, and
> probably won't be the last. As an RVer I am very defensive when it comes
> to someone questioning the integrity of the supplier of my passion.
> As others have said, and I will echo, Van's Aircraft Company supplys a
> remarkably well designed and builder friendly product and backs it with
> excellent customer support. Like many others I have been spoiled because
> I live within a days drive (4.5 hours flight time in an RV) from the
> facilities in Aurora. When you compare ACS with van's IMHO you are
> trying to compare Home Depot to your neighborhood hardware store.
> In a lot of respects it's the same. At Home Depot you get what they got
> without any real personalized service but hey, they got lots of stuff
> and lots of folks working there that really don't have a clue about the
> product in question or it's usage. Van's it like the neighborhood
> store. Personalized and often specialized to the needs of it's
> customers. If they don't have it, they will try and get it for you as
> well as answer any questions you might have about the product or what
> may be better to perform the task you have at hand.
> In short, Van's has a very small staff of dedicated people ( compared to
> the amount of product they turn out) and generally they do a bang up job
> meeting the needs of it's customers ( especially when those of us who
> are somewhat close by want to see whats new in the Skunk Works every
> time we get out to Mecca.) In operational terms it's a small business.
> If Van's were to gear and tool up like some others have in the past your
> next RV will be six figures not the 20 K you'll pay now.
> This isn't to flame you or to make you disheartened. As a builder you
> will discover that although it may be frustrating at times, these other
> builders as well as Van's staff are the greatest people you will ever
meet.
> There are other RVer's in you area. Once they know of you and your ship
> you may have more advise and help than you really need.
> Take a deep breath, and relax while you can. When you get your tail
> feathers it will be nothing but late nights of reading plans and
> riveting alcad and wishing you could win the lottery because that job
> you have is getting in the way of building your bird.
> Welcome to the world that is building and flying your own craft.
> Especially the joy of it being an RV!
>
> Jim D. RV-7A N708JD
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: which kit to buy????? |
--> RV-List message posted by: WPAerial@aol.com
Prices don't go down. My guess is a good 10 would be right around 100K.give
or take a little depending on what you want. build a 7A or the 10. The
performance is great the way they are.
do not archive
Jerry wilken
RV6A 199 hours
N699WP
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| Subject: | Re: Prop indexing |
--> RV-List message posted by: j1j2h3@juno.com
Right - the hand held would not be suitable for prop balancing. The
original poster only wanted some way of quantitatively measuring the
results of prop indexing as opposed to subjective impressions. It was
for this need that I suggested the hand held. It would, however, also be
useful for determining the need for rebalancing.
Jim Hasper - RV-7 just starting empennage (setting up shop in Franklin,
Tennessee)
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--> RV-List message posted by: Michael McGee <jmpcrftr@teleport.com>
(snip)
>The Digital Vibration tester in McMaster Carr would only give the
vibration
>amplitude and not provide any prop angle information.
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| Subject: | aircraft condition inspection? |
--> RV-List message posted by: WPAerial@aol.com
Hello,
Does anyone have a list of what to inspect when doing the yearly aircraft
condition inspection? Also how to write it in the log? I looked in the archives.
do not archive
Jerry Wilken
N699WP
RV6A 199 hours
Albany Oregon
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| Subject: | Re: Van's Aircraft |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
David Taylor wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "David Taylor" <rv7@cox.net>
>
> First off I'd have to say I've been pleased by most of Van's staff. I get
>most of the information I need in a very timely manner. But I do have to say
>I'm tired of hearing "It's not rocket science".
> -David Taylor
> RV-6A Wings
> Warner Robins, GA
>
>
>
>
Well it is true, it is not "Rocket science" that is for those other
guys, the guys WE LET hang around with us. The ones that
have an HR in front of Rocket. They know who they are. :-)
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Jerry
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| Subject: | Re: Lyco S.I. 1435 |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry2DT@aol.com
Thanks to all who replied, and a special mention to Jim Daniels who rightly
pointed out that the first 3 pages of SI 1435 are in the finish kit manual.
"When in doubt, read the instructions."...............
Jerry Cochran
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| Subject: | aircraft condition inspection? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bruce Gray" <Bruce@glasair.org>
Jerry,
Your Phase II Operating Limitations provided by your FAA Inspector or
DAR
will (or should) have the statement in it. (example follows)
12. No person shall operate this aircraft unless within the proceeding
12
calendar months it has had a condition inspection performed in
accordance
with Appendix D of Part 43 and found to be in a condition for safe
operation. Additionally, this inspection shall be in accordance with the
limitation (13) listed below.
13. Condition inspections shall be recorded in the aircraft maintenance
records showing the following or similarly worded statement: "I certify
that this aircraft has been inspected on (insert date) in accordance
with
the scope and detail of Appendix D of Part 43 and found to be in a
condition for safe operation." The entry will include the certificate
type/number of the person performing the inspection.
FYI, Take a close look at appendix D of Part 43. It details what the
condition inspection must cover.
Bruce
www.glasair.org
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WPAerial@aol.com
Subject: RV-List: aircraft condition inspection?
--> RV-List message posted by: WPAerial@aol.com
Hello,
Does anyone have a list of what to inspect when doing the yearly
aircraft
condition inspection? Also how to write it in the log? I looked in the
archives.
do not archive
Jerry Wilken
N699WP
RV6A 199 hours
Albany Oregon
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