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1. 05:29 AM - Re: Gluing Drilled Canopy? (glenn.williams@businessacft.bombardier.com)
2. 05:49 AM - Re: Remote preheater activation (Wayne Pedersen)
3. 06:00 AM - GA Bashing by CBS News (Frederick Oldenburg)
4. 06:07 AM - Re: which kit to buy????? (Alex Peterson)
5. 06:22 AM - Re: Gluing Drilled Canopy? (Charles Rowbotham)
6. 06:45 AM - List: ELTs (Glen Matejcek)
7. 07:44 AM - Re: GA Bashing by CBS News (Cy Galley)
8. 08:32 AM - Re: List: ELTs (Mickey Coggins)
9. 08:45 AM - Re: GA Bashing by CBS News (Doug Rozendaal)
10. 08:59 AM - How to sell an unfinished homebuilt? (Joe & Jan Connell)
11. 09:07 AM - Fw: (Cy Galley)
12. 09:13 AM - Re: aircraft condition inspection? (Ernest Kells)
13. 09:14 AM - Re: GA Bashing by CBS News (Brian Denk)
14. 09:35 AM - Re: GA Bashing by CBS News (BLAKE)
15. 09:48 AM - Re: aircraft condition inspection? (BLAKE)
16. 12:07 PM - GA Bashing on CBS (long) (Jim Cimino)
17. 12:20 PM - Keep water out of the cockpit (Jason Sneed)
18. 02:55 PM - OATs & overhauled engine (D Ford)
19. 03:02 PM - Re: Keep water out of the cockpit (cecilth@juno.com)
20. 04:11 PM - correction to leak problem (RV-6 Slider) (Jason Sneed)
21. 04:33 PM - Re: Keep water out of the cockpit (Frank van der Hulst (Staff WG))
22. 04:54 PM - More MicroAir 760 (Ron Walker)
23. 04:59 PM - Re: GA Bashing by CBS News (Cy Galley)
24. 05:55 PM - Marvel carb rebuild kit (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
25. 05:57 PM - Re: Keep water out of the cockpit (Patty & Dan Krueger)
26. 06:14 PM - Re: Vans shipping (Randy Compton)
27. 06:17 PM - Re: correction to leak problem (RV-6 Slider) (Cy Galley)
28. 06:53 PM - RV-6 wings for sale (Doug Weiler)
29. 07:25 PM - Re: Gluing Drilled Canopy? (Doug Weiler)
30. 07:36 PM - Re: correction to leak problem (RV-6 Slider) (kempthornes)
31. 08:09 PM - Re: GA Bashing by CBS News (kempthornes)
32. 09:05 PM - Re: GA Bashing on CBS (long) (Tommy Mead)
33. 09:36 PM - Re: GA Bashing on CBS (long) (Jerry Springer)
34. 09:37 PM - Re: Vans shipping, long post. (JOHN STARN)
35. 09:55 PM - Re: Marvel carb rebuild kit (Greg Milner)
36. 10:33 PM - Re: GA Bashing by CBS News (rv6tc)
37. 11:51 PM - Re: Marvel carb rebuild kit (GMC)
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Subject: | Re: Gluing Drilled Canopy? |
01/15/2004 06:50:35 AM
--> RV-List message posted by: glenn.williams@businessacft.bombardier.com
I think if you work the canopy as per Vans instructions you will be very
pleased with the set up. I personally will tell you that I had serious
thoughts about my 8A canopy untill I actually did the work. The stories you
hear are worse than the actual work itself. Be slow and build the thing as
per and you will be fine
My 2 cents worth
do not archive
Glenn Williams
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Subject: | Re: Remote preheater activation |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Wayne Pedersen" <wayne@pedersentransport.com>
I have this "Remote Beeper Box" on my Piper Tomahawk and it works good. The
only draw back that I have is that if somebody dials the wrong phone number
your pager goes off and the heater kicks in for the predetermined time. I
put a car heater in the engine compartment and one in the cabin and it sure
takes the brrrrr out of winter start up.
Wayne
RV7a - fuse
S.ALberta
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Subject: | GA Bashing by CBS News |
--> RV-List message posted by: Frederick Oldenburg <foldenburg@earthlink.net>
Did anyone see this story on CBS news last night:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/01/14/eveningnews/main593216.shtml
AOPA is following this:
http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsitems/2004/04-1-029x.html
There is also good article on it here:
http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?ContentBlockID=139faa40-aa30-4cd2-a8bb-44d7156e949b&
I found this style of reporting from CBS very troubling. As is Typical of major
news outlets, they seem to be more interested in sensationalism rather than presenting
a fair and balanced report.
Im going to be writing some letters and e-mail on this one. Id urge you to do the
same if you can. We need to get a grass roots campaign against this type of
maligning of the facts about GA.
Ive compiled a list of sponsors from last night's CBS news broadcast:
Detrol LA = Pfizer Pharmaceutical - http://www.pfizer.com
Plavix = Bristol-Meyers Squibb - http://www.bms.com/
CoricidinHBP = Schering-Plough HealthCare Products - http://www.sphcp.com/
Centrum = Wyeth Consumer Healthcare - http://www.wyeth.com/
Fosamax = Merck & Co. - http://www.merck.com/
Hyundai of America - http://www.hyundaiusa.com/
Hidden Valley Ranch = The HV Food Products Company, a wholly owned subsidiary of The Clorox Company - http://www.hiddenvalleyranch.com/
Campbells Soup - http://www.campbellsoupcompany.com/contact_campbell.asp
One Touch Ultra = Lifescan, A Johnson & Johnson Company - http://www.lifescan.com/
Bayer Asprin - Bayer AG - http://www.bayer.com/en/index.php
Quaker Oats - Pepsico - http://www.pepsico.com/
Rollaids - Pfizer Pharmaceutical - http://www.pfizer.com/
CVS Pharmacy - http://www.cvs.com/CVSApp/cvs/gateway/cvsmain
Walmart - http://www.walmart.com/
Please help if you can by letting these sponsors (and CBS News) know how you feel
about CBS unfair portrayal of GA.
evening@cbsnews.com (CBS News E-Mail)
trissel@eaglesnest.aero (Airport Manager quoted in CBS Story)
lesley1414@msn.com (Lesley Hock, Realtor quoted in CBS Story)
Thanks,
Fred
Do Not Archive
Fred Oldenburg
N270S (Reserved) RV-7A - Empennage
http://www.rv.oldsack.com
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Subject: | which kit to buy????? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@usjet.net>
>
>
> Just for the fun of it, What do you think a completed RV 10
> with IFR panel, and low time engine would sell for?
My guess would be about $150k. Look at what the competition goes for.
Alex Peterson
Maple Grove, MN
RV6-A N66AP 427 hours
www.usfamily.net/web/alexpeterson
do not archive
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Subject: | Gluing Drilled Canopy? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Charles Rowbotham" <crowbotham@hotmail.com>
Ken,
We deburred our holes (had drilled them all) and used SemWeld (aka ProSeal)
to attach our canopy with a few (probably4 4-5 on each side) to hold the
shirt to the canopy and frame on the forward end and side. No issues in 200+
hours.
Good Building,
Chuck & Dave Rowbotham
RV-8A
>From: "Ken Brooks" <kenbrooks@charter.net>
>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RV-List: Gluing Drilled Canopy?
>Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 10:25:37 -0600
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Ken Brooks" <kenbrooks@charter.net>
>
>Dear -listers,
> I've just finished reading the article in the new SA about gluing on
>one's canopy and have a question for y'all. I've already drilled the
>sliding portion of the plexi to the canopy frame, but only with the #40
>drill bit.
>
>Am I committed to riveting the canopy, or could I glue it on and just use
>the clecoes as "clamps" while the glue cures and then remove them?
>
>Obviously, all the holes would have to be stress-relieved (smoothed) well,
>but if the #40 holes in the plexi wouldn't give me problems later, I'd
>really like to try the glue method for all the positive reasons spelled out
>in the SA article. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance.
>
>Ken Brooks
>Roscoe, IL
>Like Vince H., procrastinating on the canopy.
>
>
Rethink your business approach for the new year with the helpful tips here.
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Glen Matejcek" <aerobubba@earthlink.net>
Hi all-
I understand satellite tracking of 121.5 is going away and that 406 is the
way of the future, but as I understand it most recent 121.5 ELT's also
transmit on 243, and that freq will be satellite supported indefinitely.
gm
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Subject: | Re: GA Bashing by CBS News |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
It would help if your list of advertisers were e-mail addresses rather than
web site addresses. But even then thanks for the help.
Cy Galley
Editor, EAA Safety Programs
cgalley@qcbc.org or experimenter@eaa.org
----- Original Message -----
From: "Frederick Oldenburg" <foldenburg@earthlink.net>
Subject: RV-List: GA Bashing by CBS News
> --> RV-List message posted by: Frederick Oldenburg
<foldenburg@earthlink.net>
>
> Did anyone see this story on CBS news last night:
>
> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/01/14/eveningnews/main593216.shtml
>
> AOPA is following this:
>
> http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsitems/2004/04-1-029x.html
>
> There is also good article on it here:
>
>
http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?ContentBlockID=139faa40-aa30-4cd2-a8bb-44
d7156e949b&
>
> I found this style of reporting from CBS very troubling. As is Typical of
major news outlets, they seem to be more interested in sensationalism rather
than presenting a fair and balanced report.
>
> Im going to be writing some letters and e-mail on this one. Id urge you to
do the same if you can. We need to get a grass roots campaign against this
type of maligning of the facts about GA.
>
> Ive compiled a list of sponsors from last night's CBS news broadcast:
>
> Detrol LA = Pfizer Pharmaceutical - http://www.pfizer.com
> Plavix = Bristol-Meyers Squibb - http://www.bms.com/
> CoricidinHBP = Schering-Plough HealthCare Products - http://www.sphcp.com/
> Centrum = Wyeth Consumer Healthcare - http://www.wyeth.com/
> Fosamax = Merck & Co. - http://www.merck.com/
> Hyundai of America - http://www.hyundaiusa.com/
> Hidden Valley Ranch = The HV Food Products Company, a wholly owned
subsidiary of The Clorox Company - http://www.hiddenvalleyranch.com/
> Campbells Soup - http://www.campbellsoupcompany.com/contact_campbell.asp
> One Touch Ultra = Lifescan, A Johnson & Johnson Company -
http://www.lifescan.com/
> Bayer Asprin - Bayer AG - http://www.bayer.com/en/index.php
> Quaker Oats - Pepsico - http://www.pepsico.com/
> Rollaids - Pfizer Pharmaceutical - http://www.pfizer.com/
> CVS Pharmacy - http://www.cvs.com/CVSApp/cvs/gateway/cvsmain
> Walmart - http://www.walmart.com/
>
> Please help if you can by letting these sponsors (and CBS News) know how
you feel about CBS unfair portrayal of GA.
>
> evening@cbsnews.com (CBS News E-Mail)
> trissel@eaglesnest.aero (Airport Manager quoted in CBS Story)
> lesley1414@msn.com (Lesley Hock, Realtor quoted in CBS Story)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Fred
>
> Do Not Archive
>
>
> Fred Oldenburg
> N270S (Reserved) RV-7A - Empennage
> http://www.rv.oldsack.com
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
I don't know how long 243 MHz will be around, but are
there any 406 MHz ELTs on the market?
Mickey
>I understand satellite tracking of 121.5 is going away and that 406 is the
>way of the future, but as I understand it most recent 121.5 ELT's also
>transmit on 243, and that freq will be satellite supported indefinitely.
--
Mickey Coggins
http://www.rv8.ch/
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Subject: | Re: GA Bashing by CBS News |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com>
Go to this site and hit feedback button and give'em hell!
Here is mine.
Tailwinds,
Doug Rozendaal
Do not archive
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/01/14/eveningnews/main593216.shtml
Your story on General Aviation was irresponsible and simple fear mongering.
Your premise that restricting basic freedoms, like driving or flying, will
make us safe is flawed. Small airplanes represent no greater threat than
mini vans, or pickup trucks. They are several orders of magnitude less
threatening than large over the road trucks, railroad tracks, or ship
containers which could just as easily be used for a terrorist attack.
Why not do a story about how the government has spent millions, if not
billions on aviation security so they can tell the public, "look at all we
are doing to keep you safe!" When in fact, the government can do, and has
done, very little to keep you safe from terrorist. The trucking industry,
the rail industry operate pretty much as they always have, and they should.
Most ship containers that enter our country are still never inspected. Why?
Because if applied the requirements and hassles across the transportation
industry that we have dumped on aviation, our economy would come to a halt!
Why not do a story that suggests that everyone must call some government
agency and get an approval, a flight plan if you will, to drive downtown to
the local grocery store. After all, the driver may be a known terrorist and
might use their mini-van as a mobile bomb? How much mail do you think you
would get about that? Upon arrival at the store, you would be required to
call in and report that you had arrived at your destination. And then again,
driving home would require another approval of your "flight plan." Sound
crazy? Certainly it is! Why then should I have to get to fly my airplane 100
miles to have lunch with my 87 year old Grandmother? Why should the airways
be any more restricted than the freeways?
Why not do a story about how many lives are lost annually to drunk drivers?
Suggest the outrage the government inspite of these deaths the government
has not required a fence around bars and restaurants that serve alcohol and
required a breath test to enter the highway? How much mail would you get
about that? Do you think Budwieser and Miller Brewing might rethink their
advertising expenditures with your network?
There is not enough barbed wire or bureaucrats in the world to make us safe.
The citizens must accept there is a risk to living in a free society. My
forefathers fled their Dutch homeland to find economic, religious freedoms
that your story proposes to hand back to the government with out so much as
a discussion.
As a news organization you a RIGHT to talk about General Aviation, but if
you do, you have a RESPONSIBILITY to shine as much light on how small the
threat really is in comparisons to other things around us that citizens take
for granted every day. When people or news organizations exercise rights
without accepting the responsibilities inherent, those rights go away. In
short you put the freedom of the press at risk, and that brings us back to
my original point. Taking away freedom will never make us safe.
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Subject: | How to sell an unfinished homebuilt? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Joe & Jan Connell" <jconnell@rconnect.com>
Gentlemen:
A friend of mine is building a Fisher Classic, a wood and
fabric biplane with Rotax 582 engine. The plane is about
ready for covering and he has about $20K in it. Steve has
been diagnosed with ALS (Lou Gehrig's disease) and it is
progressing rapidly.
He has tried to sell it on E-bay and via a biplane Internet site.
We are also placing ads in Sport Aviation and Kitplanes.
There have been almost no nibbles as it is not main stream
like a Kitfox or an RV.
Would you reply to me off-line with any ideas you may have on
how to sell this project? I'm sorry this is off topic but I know
my fellow RV builders have great ideas...
Thanks.
Joe Connell, RV-9A, N95JJ
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
> These are the advertiser e-mails that I sent the message below.
>
> <Johndiamonti@BMS.com>,
> <PSIG-info@pfizer.com>,
> <stephen.galpin@spcorp.com>,
> <stockholderservices@merck.com>,
> <mediaservises@merck.com>,
> <billlang@hmmausa.com>
>
> I realize that advertising is very important to you and your company. The
> selection of your venue needs to project an honest reliable picture. This
> was not the case last night on your sponsored CBS Evening News. Their
lack
> of honesty and credibility reflects on you the advertiser. Their scare
> piece on General Aviation and Terrorists did nothing to enhance your
> company.
>
> Cy Galley
> Editor, EAA Safety Programs
> cgalley@qcbc.org or experimenter@eaa.org
>
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Subject: | Re: aircraft condition inspection? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ernest Kells" <ernest.kells@sympatico.ca>
Jerry:
I assume that you are asking about the actual checklist of tasks to be done
at the annual/100 Hour inspection.
I have this checklist developed for my specific RV-9A.
For example:
C. CABIN GROUP:
-
-
15. _____ Check condition and operation of Cabin Heater and Windshield
Defroster.
-
-
It is still a work-in-progress that I refine as I finish the project.
It is a full four page Word 97 document which may give you a starting point.
Ernest Kells - RV-9A O235-N2C, Wood Prop
90 + % Complete - (wiring and painting).
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Gray" <Bruce@glasair.org>
Subject: RE: RV-List: aircraft condition inspection?
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Bruce Gray" <Bruce@glasair.org>
>
> Jerry,
>
> Your Phase II Operating Limitations provided by your FAA Inspector or
> DAR
> will (or should) have the statement in it. (example follows)
>
> 12. No person shall operate this aircraft unless within the proceeding
> 12
> calendar months it has had a condition inspection performed in
> accordance
> with Appendix D of Part 43 and found to be in a condition for safe
> operation. Additionally, this inspection shall be in accordance with the
> limitation (13) listed below.
>
> 13. Condition inspections shall be recorded in the aircraft maintenance
> records showing the following or similarly worded statement: "I certify
> that this aircraft has been inspected on (insert date) in accordance
> with
> the scope and detail of Appendix D of Part 43 and found to be in a
> condition for safe operation." The entry will include the certificate
> type/number of the person performing the inspection.
>
> FYI, Take a close look at appendix D of Part 43. It details what the
> condition inspection must cover.
>
>
> Bruce
> www.glasair.org
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> WPAerial@aol.com
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV-List: aircraft condition inspection?
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: WPAerial@aol.com
>
> Hello,
>
> Does anyone have a list of what to inspect when doing the yearly
> aircraft
> condition inspection? Also how to write it in the log? I looked in the
> archives.
>
> do not archive
>
> Jerry Wilken
> N699WP
> RV6A 199 hours
> Albany Oregon
>
>
> ==
> ==
> ==
> ==
>
>
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Subject: | Re: GA Bashing by CBS News |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Denk" <akroguy@hotmail.com>
My reply:
Your report on small airport security (air parks) is utter fear mongering,
alarmist, checkout lane tabloid drivel. The air parks I have visited are
very close-knit communities. Neighbors share a common passion, aviation,
and they support each other, come to know each other's habits, and can tell
if someone just doesn't belong there. Put razor wire around these parks and
security fences? You want to tell John Travolta he can't fly his Boeing 707
whenever he wants to without a security check? Is he more or less a risk
than I am in my single engine airplane? Would you really want to put
shackles on the ultimate form of human freedom: flying? Life in a free
society isn't safe, nor is it secure at all times. We live, we choose our
risks, and we take our chances by crossing the street to buy a gallon of
milk. If I want to fly to the next state to buy that milk, then I will do
so, because I can, I EARNED the privelege of doing so. I can also drive
there, in my truck and crash it into the store if I so choose. Care to put
security fences around the local 7-11?
<end>
Brian Denk
RV8 N94BD
RV10 '51
do not archive
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Subject: | Re: GA Bashing by CBS News |
--> RV-List message posted by: "BLAKE" <bavant@mchsi.com>
Cy,
Thanks for bringing our attention to this misinformed news media. Its truly
sad that our nation will continue to live in fear of aviation after 9/11.
The attacks on that day are so elaborate, so coordinated that it would be
nearly impossible to duplicate. We should be focusing attention on much
less elaborate schemes such as the water supply and biological terrorism.
Better border security would be a great place to start. Sorry to tangent,
but back to the real issue of GA, if you would like to go staight to the
source of these comments from Mr. Trissel, just use the information below to
call or email him directly. The sponsors don't care, but Mr. Trissel has
dramatized this GA terror threat without any consideration for the impact it
could have on GA. Let him know how you fee.
Blake
Domain Name: eaglesnest.aero
Creation Date: 2003-02-04 20:18:45 UTC
Last Modification Date: 2003-02-10T20:00:39.741Z
Expiration Date: 2005-02-04 20:18:45 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar: R78-AERO
Created by: R78-AERO
Updated by: R78-AERO
Last Updated By Registrar: R78-AERO
Maintainer: http://www.domainbank.aero/
ENS_AuthID: E21134-ENSR
Admin ID: C3555897-AERO
Admin Name: John Trissel Jr
Admin Organization: Eagle's Nest Flight Services
Admin Address: 249 Aero Drive
Admin City: Waynesboro
Admin State/Province: VA
Admin Postal Code: 22980
Admin Country: US
Admin Phone Number: +1.5409434447
Admin Fax Number: +1.5409497359
Admin Email: jtrissel@cfw.com
Billing ID: C3555897-AERO
Billing Name: John Trissel Jr
Billing Organization: Eagle's Nest Flight Services
Billing Address: 249 Aero Drive
Billing City: Waynesboro
Billing State/Province: VA
Billing Postal Code: 22980
Billing Country: US
Billing Phone Number: +1.5409434447
Billing Fax Number: +1.5409497359
Billing Email: jtrissel@cfw.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@QCBC.ORG>
Subject: Re: RV-List: GA Bashing by CBS News
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
>
> It would help if your list of advertisers were e-mail addresses rather
than
> web site addresses. But even then thanks for the help.
>
> Cy Galley
> Editor, EAA Safety Programs
> cgalley@qcbc.org or experimenter@eaa.org
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Frederick Oldenburg" <foldenburg@earthlink.net>
> To: <RV-List@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV-List: GA Bashing by CBS News
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: Frederick Oldenburg
> <foldenburg@earthlink.net>
> >
> > Did anyone see this story on CBS news last night:
> >
> > http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/01/14/eveningnews/main593216.shtml
> >
> > AOPA is following this:
> >
> > http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsitems/2004/04-1-029x.html
> >
> > There is also good article on it here:
> >
> >
>
http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?ContentBlockID=139faa40-aa30-4cd2-a8bb-44
> d7156e949b&
> >
> > I found this style of reporting from CBS very troubling. As is Typical
of
> major news outlets, they seem to be more interested in sensationalism
rather
> than presenting a fair and balanced report.
> >
> > Im going to be writing some letters and e-mail on this one. Id urge you
to
> do the same if you can. We need to get a grass roots campaign against this
> type of maligning of the facts about GA.
> >
> > Ive compiled a list of sponsors from last night's CBS news broadcast:
> >
> > Detrol LA = Pfizer Pharmaceutical - http://www.pfizer.com
> > Plavix = Bristol-Meyers Squibb - http://www.bms.com/
> > CoricidinHBP = Schering-Plough HealthCare Products -
http://www.sphcp.com/
> > Centrum = Wyeth Consumer Healthcare - http://www.wyeth.com/
> > Fosamax = Merck & Co. - http://www.merck.com/
> > Hyundai of America - http://www.hyundaiusa.com/
> > Hidden Valley Ranch = The HV Food Products Company, a wholly owned
> subsidiary of The Clorox Company - http://www.hiddenvalleyranch.com/
> > Campbells Soup - http://www.campbellsoupcompany.com/contact_campbell.asp
> > One Touch Ultra = Lifescan, A Johnson & Johnson Company -
> http://www.lifescan.com/
> > Bayer Asprin - Bayer AG - http://www.bayer.com/en/index.php
> > Quaker Oats - Pepsico - http://www.pepsico.com/
> > Rollaids - Pfizer Pharmaceutical - http://www.pfizer.com/
> > CVS Pharmacy - http://www.cvs.com/CVSApp/cvs/gateway/cvsmain
> > Walmart - http://www.walmart.com/
> >
> > Please help if you can by letting these sponsors (and CBS News) know how
> you feel about CBS unfair portrayal of GA.
> >
> > evening@cbsnews.com (CBS News E-Mail)
> > trissel@eaglesnest.aero (Airport Manager quoted in CBS Story)
> > lesley1414@msn.com (Lesley Hock, Realtor quoted in CBS Story)
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Fred
> >
> > Do Not Archive
> >
> >
> > Fred Oldenburg
> > N270S (Reserved) RV-7A - Empennage
> > http://www.rv.oldsack.com
> >
> >
>
>
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Subject: | Re: aircraft condition inspection? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "BLAKE" <bavant@mchsi.com>
Try the link below on FAA site with App. D.
http://www.access.gpo.gov/nara/cfr/cfrhtml_00/Title_14/14cfr43_00.html
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Gray" <Bruce@glasair.org>
Subject: RE: RV-List: aircraft condition inspection?
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Bruce Gray" <Bruce@glasair.org>
>
> Jerry,
>
> Your Phase II Operating Limitations provided by your FAA Inspector or
> DAR
> will (or should) have the statement in it. (example follows)
>
> 12. No person shall operate this aircraft unless within the proceeding
> 12
> calendar months it has had a condition inspection performed in
> accordance
> with Appendix D of Part 43 and found to be in a condition for safe
> operation. Additionally, this inspection shall be in accordance with the
> limitation (13) listed below.
>
> 13. Condition inspections shall be recorded in the aircraft maintenance
> records showing the following or similarly worded statement: "I certify
> that this aircraft has been inspected on (insert date) in accordance
> with
> the scope and detail of Appendix D of Part 43 and found to be in a
> condition for safe operation." The entry will include the certificate
> type/number of the person performing the inspection.
>
> FYI, Take a close look at appendix D of Part 43. It details what the
> condition inspection must cover.
>
>
> Bruce
> www.glasair.org
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> WPAerial@aol.com
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV-List: aircraft condition inspection?
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: WPAerial@aol.com
>
> Hello,
>
> Does anyone have a list of what to inspect when doing the yearly
> aircraft
> condition inspection? Also how to write it in the log? I looked in the
> archives.
>
> do not archive
>
> Jerry Wilken
> N699WP
> RV6A 199 hours
> Albany Oregon
>
>
> ==
> ==
> ==
> ==
>
>
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Subject: | GA Bashing on CBS (long) |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Cimino" <jcimino@echoes.net>
Here is the letter I sent to them, I hope they read it.
James Cimino
RV-8 SN 80039
100+ Hours
570-842-4057
http://www.geocities.com/jcimino.geo/
I was very disappointed in your story regarding general aviation and the possible
terrorist activities that can arise from their airports. Comparing light aircraft
and general aviation to the threat posed by large commercial aircraft
is like comparing pee wee football to the NFL. Small aircraft are less likely
to be used by terrorists than the family car. You pointed out the antics of
one crazy pilot who stole a Cessna 172 and flew it into a building. If I am correct,
he was the only fatality, and even if I am not, do you really think that
any organized terrorist group would waste there time and resources to kill
one or two people. A Cessna 172 (which is a typical light general aviation aircraft)
has an empty weight of around 1400 lbs. and a gross weight of around 2300
lbs. That means that after you load a pilot and put fuel in the airplane
you can carry about 500 lbs. of cargo that must be properly loaded for the aircraft
to fly. I realize that 500 lbs. of explosives can do a lot of damage, but
I can put more than that in the trunk of my car. How about rental trucks and
semi-trailers...how much explosives do you think they can carry? Out of the
vehicles I mentioned, which one do you think is easier to get, carries more
payload, and is less likely to attract attention?
General Aviation has taken a large hit on their freedoms since 9-11 without any
good reason. The only people who would use small aircraft for this purpose are
the few solo nut cases out their. You will not find any example of an organized
threat from GA in history, because it is not practical. We are being told
that we need to send a message to terrorists that they cannot dampen the American
Spirit, and we should show this by going about our daily lives as normal
as we can. But thanks to Homeland Security and the News, we are not allowed
to do that. Many people have lost their jobs working in aviation because of
the fear that aviation is a target for terrorism. Companies have gone bankrupt
because the CIA couldn't do their job. Now we have Homeland Security putting
up alerts and stepping up security in order to justify their jobs. Then President
Bush tells us to live normal lives. Anybody with any brains at all knows
that you cannot totally protect soft targets and that terrorists what to make
big statements. General aviation aircraft will not be part of this and your
ridiculous consideration of it just shows that you love to keep the terrorist
threat on the front page. I do not mind being inconvenienced for security in
real threats, but I think we need to get real. What will you propose next?
Maybe we should not allow children to go out trick-or-treating? You know we
don't know who is behind that mask and what might be in their bag.
My own personal airplane can only carry about 250 lbs of cargo after I load myself
and fuel, I think the only damage that can be done is to the plane and pilot.
If I travel anywhere near large populations, my actions are watched on radar
and I cannot out-run even the slowest military airplane. How close are we
watching other forms of transportation? Just because my airplane has wings and
a tail, does not put in the same category as a commercial jet. You keep this
kind of reporting up, we will not even be able to drive our cars into large
cities or over bridges without being searched. I honestly do not right letters
like this normally, but I think general aviation and aviation in general has
been hurt enough. The next time I am contacted by life-flight to transport
a transplant patient or a heart for transplant, I hope no one will mind that because
of regulations I might not be able to get their in time if at all.
I honestly have not seen such a poorly thought out shot at GA, since Barbara Walters
stated that if John Kennedy JR. had been flying with more than one engine,
he might still be alive. As a flight instructor I have been contacted a number
of times by the FAA telling us to change the way we teach in order to offset
poor judgment made by one high profile individual. I am getting a little
tired of it. Look at the statistics! How many GA flights a year? How many GA
pilots and students? How many incidents? I am proud to be a pilot and never
wanted to be a commercial pilot. I fly for fun and relaxation...maybe you should
try it. Why don't you talk to AOPA and the EAA, maybe they can explain
it better than we can. Just because one person or a group of people use airplanes
for terrorist activities, doesn't mean that all of GA should suffer.
Hey, I just thought of something! Remote controlled airplanes can carry explosives
too, and some of them are getting real big. Go get them!!!
Jim Cimino
CFII
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Subject: | Keep water out of the cockpit |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jason Sneed <jasons@fnbt.com>
>
> Can someone tell me how to stop rain water from leaking into my
> cockpit when the airplane is sitting outside? I tried silicone today
> and it slowed the water but did not stop it from coming in. Also, if I
> keep adding silicone the darn slider will not shut and lock. There has
> to be a better fix. I have a cover but I still get water with the
> cover on.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jason Sneed
> 850-598-3063
>
> See ya in Lakeland this weekend!
Jason Sneed
Commercial Lending Officer
First National Bank and Trust
850-796-2000 Ext:2341
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Subject: | OATs & overhauled engine |
--> RV-List message posted by: "D Ford" <dford@michweb.net>
I am ready for my first flight in my RV but have hesitation due to OAT and breaking
in my overhauled engine. Is there any reason that the CHTs would be too
low to break in the rings? This weekend shoud be 15 to 25 degF, currently it's
below 10 deg. Someone told me to wait until it's above 30 deg. Looking for
more experience here...
Dave Ford
RV6
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Subject: | Re: Keep water out of the cockpit |
--> RV-List message posted by: cecilth@juno.com
Jason, the proper way to stop the water, is to move it to Southern
California.
That will do it.
Cecil
> >
> > Can someone tell me how to stop rain water from leaking into my
> > cockpit when the airplane is sitting outside? I tried silicone
> today
> > and it slowed the water but did not stop it from coming in. Also,
> if I
> > keep adding silicone the darn slider will not shut and lock. There
> has
> > to be a better fix. I have a cover but I still get water with the
> > cover on.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Jason Sneed
> > 850-598-3063
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | correction to leak problem (RV-6 Slider) |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jason Sneed <jasons@fnbt.com>
>
>>
>> Can someone tell me how to stop rain water from leaking into my
>> cockpit when the airplane is sitting outside? I tried silicone today
>> and it slowed the water but did not stop it from coming in. Also, if
>> I keep adding silicone the darn slider will not shut and lock. There
>> has to be a better fix. (RV-6 slider... sorry)
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jason Sneed
>> 850-598-3063
>>
>> See ya in Lakeland this weekend!
>>
>>
>
>
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Subject: | Keep water out of the cockpit |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Frank van der Hulst (Staff WG)" <F.vanderHulst@ucol.ac.nz>
> Jason, the proper way to stop the water, is to move it to Southern
California.
... But, man, it pours.
Do Not Archive
Frank
Learn real skills for the real world - Apply online
at http://www.ucol.ac.nz or call 0800 GO UCOL
(0800 46 8265) or txt free 3388 for more information
and make a good move to UCOL Universal College of
Learning.
Enrol with a public institute and be certain of your
future
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Subject: | More MicroAir 760 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ron Walker" <ron@walker.net>
I wired up my intercom -an ACS-400 the same as a PS Eng, PM501 - with my MicroAir
760 today. The mike/earphone pieces are wired in to the intercom first with
the intercom then wired in to the 760. The issue is the 760 diagram indicates
that the MIKE ground needs to be connected specifically to pin 2 of its input.
I don't think the solution is to wire the "hot" line of the mike to the intercom
and ground to the 760. I fired it up leaving pin 2 on the 760 open, and
it did work, but there was quite a background hum as expected. Has anyone figured
this one out ?
Ron
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Subject: | Re: GA Bashing by CBS News |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
I don't think Mr. Trissel is the problem. I feel he was duped and or
misquoted. When a reporter goes out to do a hatchet job like this, he
already has a premise and is just looking for quotes and figures to back it
up.
If you re-read the article it starts with the storage place for planes as
being a hanger which indicates to me the writer doesn't know airplanes.
Cy Galley
Editor, EAA Safety Programs
cgalley@qcbc.org or experimenter@eaa.org
----- Original Message -----
From: "BLAKE" <bavant@mchsi.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: GA Bashing by CBS News
> --> RV-List message posted by: "BLAKE" <bavant@mchsi.com>
>
> Cy,
> Thanks for bringing our attention to this misinformed news media. Its
truly
> sad that our nation will continue to live in fear of aviation after 9/11.
> The attacks on that day are so elaborate, so coordinated that it would be
> nearly impossible to duplicate. We should be focusing attention on much
> less elaborate schemes such as the water supply and biological terrorism.
> Better border security would be a great place to start. Sorry to tangent,
> but back to the real issue of GA, if you would like to go staight to the
> source of these comments from Mr. Trissel, just use the information below
to
> call or email him directly. The sponsors don't care, but Mr. Trissel has
> dramatized this GA terror threat without any consideration for the impact
it
> could have on GA. Let him know how you fee.
>
> Blake
>
> Domain Name: eaglesnest.aero
> Creation Date: 2003-02-04 20:18:45 UTC
> Last Modification Date: 2003-02-10T20:00:39.741Z
> Expiration Date: 2005-02-04 20:18:45 UTC
> Sponsoring Registrar: R78-AERO
> Created by: R78-AERO
> Updated by: R78-AERO
> Last Updated By Registrar: R78-AERO
> Maintainer: http://www.domainbank.aero/
> ENS_AuthID: E21134-ENSR
> Admin ID: C3555897-AERO
> Admin Name: John Trissel Jr
> Admin Organization: Eagle's Nest Flight Services
> Admin Address: 249 Aero Drive
> Admin City: Waynesboro
> Admin State/Province: VA
> Admin Postal Code: 22980
> Admin Country: US
> Admin Phone Number: +1.5409434447
> Admin Fax Number: +1.5409497359
> Admin Email: jtrissel@cfw.com
> Billing ID: C3555897-AERO
> Billing Name: John Trissel Jr
> Billing Organization: Eagle's Nest Flight Services
> Billing Address: 249 Aero Drive
> Billing City: Waynesboro
> Billing State/Province: VA
> Billing Postal Code: 22980
> Billing Country: US
> Billing Phone Number: +1.5409434447
> Billing Fax Number: +1.5409497359
> Billing Email: jtrissel@cfw.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@QCBC.ORG>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: RV-List: GA Bashing by CBS News
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
> >
> > It would help if your list of advertisers were e-mail addresses rather
> than
> > web site addresses. But even then thanks for the help.
> >
> > Cy Galley
> > Editor, EAA Safety Programs
> > cgalley@qcbc.org or experimenter@eaa.org
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Frederick Oldenburg" <foldenburg@earthlink.net>
> > To: <RV-List@matronics.com>
> > Subject: RV-List: GA Bashing by CBS News
> >
> >
> > > --> RV-List message posted by: Frederick Oldenburg
> > <foldenburg@earthlink.net>
> > >
> > > Did anyone see this story on CBS news last night:
> > >
> > > http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/01/14/eveningnews/main593216.shtml
> > >
> > > AOPA is following this:
> > >
> > > http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsitems/2004/04-1-029x.html
> > >
> > > There is also good article on it here:
> > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?ContentBlockID=139faa40-aa30-4cd2-a8bb-44
> > d7156e949b&
> > >
> > > I found this style of reporting from CBS very troubling. As is Typical
> of
> > major news outlets, they seem to be more interested in sensationalism
> rather
> > than presenting a fair and balanced report.
> > >
> > > Im going to be writing some letters and e-mail on this one. Id urge
you
> to
> > do the same if you can. We need to get a grass roots campaign against
this
> > type of maligning of the facts about GA.
> > >
> > > Ive compiled a list of sponsors from last night's CBS news broadcast:
> > >
> > > Detrol LA = Pfizer Pharmaceutical - http://www.pfizer.com
> > > Plavix = Bristol-Meyers Squibb - http://www.bms.com/
> > > CoricidinHBP = Schering-Plough HealthCare Products -
> http://www.sphcp.com/
> > > Centrum = Wyeth Consumer Healthcare - http://www.wyeth.com/
> > > Fosamax = Merck & Co. - http://www.merck.com/
> > > Hyundai of America - http://www.hyundaiusa.com/
> > > Hidden Valley Ranch = The HV Food Products Company, a wholly owned
> > subsidiary of The Clorox Company - http://www.hiddenvalleyranch.com/
> > > Campbells Soup -
http://www.campbellsoupcompany.com/contact_campbell.asp
> > > One Touch Ultra = Lifescan, A Johnson & Johnson Company -
> > http://www.lifescan.com/
> > > Bayer Asprin - Bayer AG - http://www.bayer.com/en/index.php
> > > Quaker Oats - Pepsico - http://www.pepsico.com/
> > > Rollaids - Pfizer Pharmaceutical - http://www.pfizer.com/
> > > CVS Pharmacy - http://www.cvs.com/CVSApp/cvs/gateway/cvsmain
> > > Walmart - http://www.walmart.com/
> > >
> > > Please help if you can by letting these sponsors (and CBS News) know
how
> > you feel about CBS unfair portrayal of GA.
> > >
> > > evening@cbsnews.com (CBS News E-Mail)
> > > trissel@eaglesnest.aero (Airport Manager quoted in CBS Story)
> > > lesley1414@msn.com (Lesley Hock, Realtor quoted in CBS Story)
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Fred
> > >
> > > Do Not Archive
> > >
> > >
> > > Fred Oldenburg
> > > N270S (Reserved) RV-7A - Empennage
> > > http://www.rv.oldsack.com
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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Subject: | Marvel carb rebuild kit |
--> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com
Hi List-
After lots of archive browsing, I couldn't find any information on where to
purchase a rebuild kit for a Marvel Schebler carb- my carb needs a new float
needle and gasket. Will spend a few hours staring at the yellow pages
(Trade-a-flame) tomorrow, but it y'all got any useful suggestions, I'd appreciate
it!!
Ready to schedule DAR if it weren't for this #@*&%$@leaking carb!!!!
From The PossumWorks in TN
Mark - Engine ran yesterday after a quarter-century- woohooo!!!!!!!
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Subject: | Re: Keep water out of the cockpit |
--> RV-List message posted by: Patty & Dan Krueger <pndkrueg@mchsi.com>
O
>
> _-
> =======================================================================
> _-
> =======================================================================
> _-
> =======================================================================
> _-
> =======================================================================
> >
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Vans shipping |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Randy Compton" <thecomptons@bellsouth.net>
> Well, Van's was down for inventory from January 1 to 9th (give or take a
> day), therfore they are probably way behind on orders. They were not
shipping at
> all during this time.
I certainly hope this, as well as the very adverse weather recently explains
why the exhaust system I ordered on 23 December just got shipped today, with
an expected delivery date of 22 Jan.
At grave risk of intense flames, let's face it, a month from order to
delivery is not something to be proud of, regardless of the company size.
Randy Compton
RV-3 Gulf Breeze, FL
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Subject: | Re: correction to leak problem (RV-6 Slider) |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
They make a very runny rtv auto windshield sealer that will wick into
cracks. Clear and hardy noticeable. Try Auto Zone or Pep Boys.
Cy Galley, TC - Chair, Emergency Aircraft Repair, Oshkosh
Editor, EAA Safety Programs
cgalley@qcbc.org or experimenter@eaa.org
Always looking for articles for the Experimenter
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jason Sneed" <jasons@fnbt.com>
Subject: RV-List: correction to leak problem (RV-6 Slider)
> --> RV-List message posted by: Jason Sneed <jasons@fnbt.com>
>
>
> >
> >>
> >> Can someone tell me how to stop rain water from leaking into my
> >> cockpit when the airplane is sitting outside? I tried silicone today
> >> and it slowed the water but did not stop it from coming in. Also, if
> >> I keep adding silicone the darn slider will not shut and lock. There
> >> has to be a better fix. (RV-6 slider... sorry)
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Jason Sneed
> >> 850-598-3063
> >>
> >> See ya in Lakeland this weekend!
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
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Subject: | RV-6 wings for sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Weiler" <dougweil@pressenter.com>
Fellow Listers:
Another re-posting of this for a local friend here in Minneapolis (the price
is right!):
RV-6 wings from partially completed kit. The wings are 90% finished and
includes center section components. Price reduced to $2000
Contact me off list and I'll forward your inquiry.
Thanks
Doug Weiler
Hudson, WI
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Subject: | Re: Gluing Drilled Canopy? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Weiler" <dougweil@pressenter.com>
>
> We deburred our holes (had drilled them all) and used SemWeld (aka
ProSeal)
> to attach our canopy with a few (probably4 4-5 on each side) to hold the
> shirt to the canopy and frame on the forward end and side. No issues in
200+
> hours.
>
> Good Building,
>
Greetings all:
This topic has just become rather timely for me. Today I flew my newly
finished RV-4 to the paint shop (just a 10 minute flight). It was cold
today (10 degrees F). We put the airplane in the shops nice hangar and I
began to take off the control surfaces, cowl, tips, etc. I just happen to
glance at the canopy during the process and it was CRACKED!!! I could not
believe my eyes! It was about 6 inches up from one of the rivet holes (this
hole did originally have a 1/4" crack coming from it which I had stop
drilled previously). But the airplane was rolled from the cold into a
hangar heated by overheat gas radiant heaters (those long tube-type). I
think this radiant heat and quick temp change propagated the crack (my own
hangar is heated, but with forced air gas). Needless to say, the paint job
was postponed. I stop drilled the big, bug crack, buttoned everything up
and went home.
So now I have order a new canopy and all the trimmings again. My question
to all the experts... does anyone see any downside to this technique of
gluing a canopy in place. I may consider it. Now I am really gun-shy of
holes in by canopy (not a cheap lesson, by the way!)
Doug Weiler
Hudson, WI
N722DW, cracked and grounded
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Subject: | Re: correction to leak problem (RV-6 Slider) |
--> RV-List message posted by: kempthornes <kempthornes@earthlink.net>
Duct tape also known as Duck tape Glom it on over the break.
Actually, a hangar works really well. Next best is a canopy cover.
hal
At 06:10 PM 1/15/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Jason Sneed <jasons@fnbt.com>
>
>
> >
> >>
> >> Can someone tell me how to stop rain water from leaking into my
> >> cockpit when the airplane is sitting outside? I tried silicone today
> >> and it slowed the water but did not stop it from coming in. Also, if
> >> I keep adding silicone the darn slider will not shut and lock. There
> >> has to be a better fix. (RV-6 slider... sorry)
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Jason Sneed
> >> 850-598-3063
> >>
> >> See ya in Lakeland this weekend!
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
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Subject: | Re: GA Bashing by CBS News |
--> RV-List message posted by: kempthornes <kempthornes@earthlink.net>
Besides telling CBS that I would have to go and again warn my friends that
CBS will pollute their minds with editorials in the name of news I told
them this:
The real threat terrorists pose is fear and terror generated by
irresponsible members of the press. You and your ilk are their witless
accomplices. Further, you injure good honest citizens with your claptrap.
What about tractor trailer rigs as bombs? Even cars? Terrorists are doing
well overseas with simple bombs in ordinary vehicles. Your idea of small
airplanes as major threat might sell advertising but it is a silly idea.
Finally, had your reporting been competent, you would have found that many
small airports do have good security and are upgrading. We are all much
more watchful of strangers at the smaller airports.
===============
Fellow flyers, tell everyone. Little point in telling CBS they are wrong
etc, they know it and don't care. It isn't just CBS and it isn't just this
story. We are fed propaganda on a regular basis, usually in the name of
greed but for political goals too. It seems odd but news is getting harder
to find everyday!
hal
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Subject: | Re: GA Bashing on CBS (long) |
Seal-Send-Time: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 23:08:03 -0600
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tommy Mead" <bigun73@msn.com>
please don't turn the discussion to other forms of recreation, Radio Control Models
in particular. I enjoy both and would hate to have the "knee jerk reactionary
public informers" (press) make all of our hobbies and loves curtailed and
dictated by uninformed low paid political appointee's.
Thank you,
Tommy Mead
bigun73@msn.com<mailto:bigun73@msn.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Cimino<mailto:jcimino@echoes.net>
To: RV-LIST<mailto:rv-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 2:05 PM
Subject: RV-List: GA Bashing on CBS (long)
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Cimino" <jcimino@echoes.net<mailto:jcimino@echoes.net>>
Here is the letter I sent to them, I hope they read it.
James Cimino
RV-8 SN 80039
100+ Hours
570-842-4057
http://www.geocities.com/jcimino.geo/<http://www.geocities.com/jcimino.geo/>
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Subject: | Re: GA Bashing on CBS (long) |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
WHAT? Instead of running and hiding we should all be banding together to
stop this kind of reporting.
AMA, EAA, AOPA etc. should all pool their resources to fight this and
get the truth out.
If you and the RC modelers don't want to be involved or included who is
going to support the RC group
when they DO come after you and the rest of us are already gone? I enjoy
RCs also and was addicted
to it for years, so lets not seperate lets band together.
Jerry
do not archive
Tommy Mead wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Tommy Mead" <bigun73@msn.com>
>
>please don't turn the discussion to other forms of recreation, Radio Control Models
in particular. I enjoy both and would hate to have the "knee jerk reactionary
public informers" (press) make all of our hobbies and loves curtailed and
dictated by uninformed low paid political appointee's.
>
>Thank you,
>Tommy Mead
>
>bigun73@msn.com<mailto:bigun73@msn.com>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jim Cimino<mailto:jcimino@echoes.net>
> To: RV-LIST<mailto:rv-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 2:05 PM
> Subject: RV-List: GA Bashing on CBS (long)
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Cimino" <jcimino@echoes.net<mailto:jcimino@echoes.net>>
>
> Here is the letter I sent to them, I hope they read it.
>
> James Cimino
> RV-8 SN 80039
> 100+ Hours
> 570-842-4057
> http://www.geocities.com/jcimino.geo/<http://www.geocities.com/jcimino.geo/>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Vans shipping, long post. |
--> RV-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
Well Randy you did ask for "flames" and as everyone on the RV and Rockets
lists knows if you ask me for help I'm always eager to help.
Lets say that Van's is a family type of company (like the ones I owned) and
gives time off for things like Christmas and New Years. Both were on a
Thursday so I'll bet that Van's was short handed at best on both. With the
holidays a lot of firms were also closed or at a bare minimum on both
Fridays. Van's was closed from Jan. 1st thru the 9th.
Your order was placed on the 23rd. IF we count that and the 24th we have two
days. Workers off for the week end, open on the 29th and 30th. Total now
four days. Closed from 1 thru 1-9-2004. Open and filling orders on the 12th,
13th, 14th and your order shipped on the 15th. At the absolute most that's 7
or 8 working days, plus you must mix in the weather. That means it took
closer to a WEEK not a month to fill your order.
As a sidebar we ordered two tank drains from Van's about the same time. They
were in stock, Van's processed the order, get two from the shelf, filled and
addressed the envelope and shipped UPS. When did we get them, TODAY. They
were shipped the 12th. No crating, no special handling etc. just two small
parts in a 6X6" envelope.
I've ordered lots of specialty plumbing and A/C items over the years and
most shops work with "7 to 10 working days" delays as normal if the item is
in stock somewhere and a month if it's anything other than off the sheilf. I
just ordered a part from NAPA (paid in advance of course) and it's "next to
3 days" delivery and their West Coast distrubation center is in Fontana,
Calif. (about 45 miles south of Apple Valley) and we have our normal perfect
So. California weather.
Van's does not need my help in defending themselves BUT you did ask for help
in understanding and as I said, ask and you will recieve. I'll help just
about anyone in need. Our HRII hanger is open to all. Since we started
building Tom & I made a pact, if someone comes by Tom talks to, shows and
explains while I keep working. With only 1/2 the crew working WE are working
at maybe 1/3 speed overall. But we enjoy hanger talk and showing off N561FS.
KABONG Do Not Archive. (GBA)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Randy Compton" <thecomptons@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Vans shipping
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Randy Compton" <thecomptons@bellsouth.net>
>
> > Well, Van's was down for inventory from January 1 to 9th (give or take a
> > day), therfore they are probably way behind on orders. They were not
> shipping at
> > all during this time.
>
> I certainly hope this, as well as the very adverse weather recently
explains
> why the exhaust system I ordered on 23 December just got shipped today,
with
> an expected delivery date of 22 Jan.
>
> At grave risk of intense flames, let's face it, a month from order to
> delivery is not something to be proud of, regardless of the company size.
>
> Randy Compton
> RV-3 Gulf Breeze, FL
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Marvel carb rebuild kit |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Greg Milner" <tldrgred@execpc.com>
Hey Mark,
Just wanted to inform you of the characteristic leak from the Mrvel Schebler
carb from running and not flying. I found mine to drip after I adjusted the
idle jet and had no prblems noted before. I asked an AI and he said it`s
normal and couldn`r really explain it. If it leaks with the boost pump on
you have a problem but if it just drips after test running on the ground I
wouldn`t get alarmed. It sounds crazy but it`s true.
Red Milner
RV-4 79KM
based @ UES
----- Original Message -----
From: <Fiveonepw@aol.com>
Subject: RV-List: Marvel carb rebuild kit
> --> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com
>
> Hi List-
>
> After lots of archive browsing, I couldn't find any information on where
to
> purchase a rebuild kit for a Marvel Schebler carb- my carb needs a new
float
> needle and gasket. Will spend a few hours staring at the yellow pages
> (Trade-a-flame) tomorrow, but it y'all got any useful suggestions, I'd
appreciate it!!
>
> Ready to schedule DAR if it weren't for this #@*&%$@leaking carb!!!!
>
> From The PossumWorks in TN
> Mark - Engine ran yesterday after a quarter-century- woohooo!!!!!!!
>
>
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Subject: | Re: GA Bashing by CBS News |
--> RV-List message posted by: "rv6tc" <rv6tc@myawai.com>
Very well stated.
Keith
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "kempthornes" <kempthornes@earthlink.net>
>
> The real threat terrorists pose is fear and terror generated by
> irresponsible members of the press. You and your ilk are their witless
> accomplices.
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Subject: | Marvel carb rebuild kit |
--> RV-List message posted by: "GMC" <gmcnutt@intergate.ca>
If you happen to be using mogas for your ground runs try 100LL and the carb
dripping might stop. My Cessna 182 dripped with mogas and was fine with
100LL.
George in Langley
--> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com
Hi List-
After lots of archive browsing, I couldn't find any information on where to
purchase a rebuild kit for a Marvel Schebler carb- my carb needs a new float
needle and gasket. Will spend a few hours staring at the yellow pages
(Trade-a-flame) tomorrow, but it y'all got any useful suggestions, I'd
appreciate it!!
Ready to schedule DAR if it weren't for this #@*&%$@leaking carb!!!!
From The PossumWorks in TN
Mark - Engine ran yesterday after a quarter-century- woohooo!!!!!!!
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